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Hello, Scott Latham/Archive, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! --Marc Kupper (talk) 19:52, 20 Jan 2007 (CST)

Swords and Ice Magic

Scott, I rejected an update to Swords and Ice Magic because you wanted to change the ISBN from 0441791670 to 0441791662 and then provide a more accurate printing date (1977-07-00) and state the price as $1.50. The issues with this are:

  • 0441791670 seems to be a valid IDBN for Swords and Ice Magic and we should not remove/overwrite that record from ISFDB.
  • You specified a printing date of July-1977. In the 1970s it was quite rare for Ace to state the printing date. They would state the first-printing date but for later printings would not state the date. If you can see from your copy that you have a first printing then 1977-07-00 is fine otherwise use 0000-00-00 as the book does not state when *that* copy was printed. I usually include something in the notes field that the book states "First printing July 1977 but that it does not state that this copy is the first printing."

The easiest way to deal with things like this is to go to Swords and Ice Magic and to do a clone-publication from the left navbar. You will then be directed to a screen that looks like the edit-pub screen and can then enter the new ISBN, price, date, etc. We will then end up with two records in ISFDB for Ace for the two ISBNs they seem to be using. Marc Kupper (talk) 19:52, 20 Jan 2007 (CST)

Note - if you reply to this please put the reply on this page rather than my talk page. Marc Kupper (talk) 19:52, 20 Jan 2007 (CST)

Hi, Marc I have a copy of the book in front of me. The copyright page shows copyright 1977 and first Ace printing July 1977. The spine shows 0-441-79166-2-150, the last three being the price. The front cover shows Ace|79166-2|$1.50. My main Leiber reference (the Jeff Frane Starmont) gives first publication as new York, Ace, 1977. Currey shows first edition as Ace Books, 1977, wrappers, first Ace printing July 1977 on copyright page, Ace 79166-2 ($1.50). It seemed to me that the ISBN in the original record was simply wrong, so I corrected it. If you would prefer that I clone instead, let me know. (Scott Latham 20:37, 20 Jan 2007 (CST))

Sorry about the slow response - I got behind and switched to a mode of only looking at my own talk page and the community portal.
I should have realized it before but this is an Ace publication. The first four digits of the Ace code is formed by massaging the title into a number and the last digit is used to deal with multiple printings and also sometimes with that two titles massage into the same four-digit code. Here are a set of ISBNs
  • 0-441-79160-3 unused
  • 0-441-79161-1 Swords Against Wizardry by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79162-X Swords Against Wizardry by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79163-8 Swords Against Wizardry by Fritz Leiber (printed with ISBN 0-441-49163-9?)
  • 0-441-79164-6 Swords Against Wizardry by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79165-4 Swords Against Wizardry by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79166-2 Swords and Ice Magic by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79167-0 Swords and Ice Magic by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79168-9 Swords and Ice Magic by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79169-7 Swords and Ice Magic by Fritz Leiber
  • 0-441-79170-0 Swords and Deviltry by Fritz Leiber
I don’t know what Ace does when they fill up a range as they apparently have for both of the titles that share 7916x.
Anyway - the orginal ISBN we were dealing with, 0-441-79167-0, is definitely a valid ISBN for the book but must be for a later printing of Swords and Ice Magic than the one you have. With the early Ace books it's also quite a challenge to determine if you have a first or later printing. In fact, having a last digit of 0 or 5 usually indicated "first printing" but Swords Against Wizardry starts with 1 because this numbering system was adopted 1969 and the first printing of Swords Against Wizardry was Ace H-073 in 1968 and the second printing thus used 0-441-79161-1 rather than 0-441-79160-3.
I guess #79165 was already used by up Swords Against Wizardry and thus #79166 is the first printing of Swords and Ice Magic and the numbers after that in the list above would be later printings. What I don't know is if Ace would bump to a new number at each printing or only when they increased the price and reprinted.
I've generally found it best to clone publication records rather than making changes to the ISBN, price, date, etc. fields of existing records. The only field that seems "safe" to change are the ones that are blank or 00 (with the month of the date field).
Marc Kupper (talk) 00:11, 6 Feb 2007 (CST)
Scott, can you check this pub again please, as you seem to have credited all entries to Fritz Lieber whereas my version credits Lin Carter and Stuart David Schiff as authors of some? And "Ultimate Publishing Co, Inc" for some. :-/ BLongley 14:49, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Never mind - pub doesn't make it clear over copyright/authorship. Sorted now. BLongley 15:06, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Different question: does this pub say Harry Fischer or Harry OTTO Fischer? BLongley 15:53, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Oh, and Marc: my Swords Against Wizardry doesn't include the full ISBN, so I can't answer your final 8 or 9 query. BLongley 15:53, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Bill, my copy has no credits for the component stories, beyond the mention of "appeared in different form in Fantastic and were copyright 1964 and 1965 by Ziff-Davis". The book itself is copyright 1968 by Fritz Leiber. However the dedication is to Harry Otto Fischer "who first explored Quarmall, and wrote ten thousand of these words, here unchanged, about that subterranean kingdom." Does that help? (Scott Latham 19:59, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT))
It's just that this introduction (not in the earlier edition) mentions him with the 'Otto' too, so I've not seen one without. I was wondering if you were happy for me to change both ours, or just change mine to a variant, or leave it as a note till someone verifies the Fantastic serial publication when we might want to change all? BLongley 14:03, 18 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Bill, this publication (less a few details) was already in the database when I came along: I added what value I could and verified it, since I had a copy. As for the true and complete authorship of "The Lords of Quarmall," I don't have an opinion, or any resources to add to the current state of knowledge. I assume that Harry Fischer and Harry Otto Fischer are the same person, but don't know that to be true. I certainly don't mind you changing the publication I verified in any way you think useful. (Scott Latham 15:43, 18 Apr 2007 (CDT))

Swords and Deviltry

Regarding the publication update for Swords and Deviltry. You wanted to change the price from $2.95 to $0.95 and also change the date from 1970-00-00 to 1970-05-00. The date change does not concern me as much as many ISFDB records only have the year though the books state the year and month. Thus I see many corrections where people just fill in the month and I approve those without a second thought.

The price change though was interesting. The issue is that it's common for publishers to keep the same ISBN and to change the price. Thus we'd normaly use clone publication to add a new record at a different price.

In this case the "ISBN" was #79191 and to me it seemed odd that Ace would have the same number at both $0.95 and $2.95, but, just in case..., let's leave the existing $2.95 record in there and do a clone-publication to add a new record for your copy at $0.95. Of course, if you know that it was "impossible" that ISBN #79191 could have existed at $2.95 then this publication update will be appropriate and you can just resubmit it along with a note here so that whoever see the pub-update will know what's up. Marc Kupper (talk) 20:06, 20 Jan 2007 (CST)


Hi, Marc: Thanks for your helpful approach. Actually, I screwed this one up a bit. The copy I have (priced at $0.95) is actually a second printing from November 1973. According to the copyright page, the first printing was May 1970. Currey shows the first edition as 1970, no statement of printing on copyright page, Ace 71970 ($0.75). So in attempting to improve the existing entry, I made it rather more confusing! Ah, well, lots to learn here...(Scott Latham 20:48, 20 Jan 2007 (CST))

Brain Rose

Regarding your publication update for Brain Rose. You wanted to change

  • The Year from 1990-00-00 to 1990-01-00 - this is fine and is a common update in ISFDB
  • Add Don Bolognese as the cover artist - this is fine
  • What caught my attention is the change of the price from $22.00 to $22.95. It's very common for publishers to raise the price while keeping the ISBN the same. Can you tell if your publication is a first printing? Does it have a 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 number line? If it is a first printing then the $22.00 price probably is in error but if yours is a later printing then it's possible the book sold for $20.00 at some point meaning you should clone the record rather than updating it.

Marc Kupper (talk) 20:08, 3 Feb 2007 (CST)

I do indeed have a first printing copy to work from and add that Locus1 shows the $22.95 price, too. Shall I make the change again or will you just approve it? (Scott Latham 20:33, 6 Feb 2007 (CST))

I went ahead and approved the change to $22.95. I sure wish I knew where that $22.00 price came from as I tend to assume that records in ISFDB have at least some validity. When there is a conflict between a book in my hand and a record in ISFDB then I normally clone the record and correct the clone to match my book. I just leave the original conflicting record alone (or add a note to it explaining why I believe the record is bogus) and years from now when many books are verified and if that record is still there then we can say "it looks like the record is bogus."
I did a Google for "Brain Rose" and "22.00" but only found two dealer listing pages where both are asking $20.00
Both of those pages are formatted such that it was not clear at a glance that these were the dealer's asking price and not the original cover price and it's possibly that's exactly how we ended up with the book for $22.00. Marc Kupper (talk) 16:43, 7 Feb 2007 (CST)
Marc, I spent a little time looking at the web sites you link, and I'm certain those are offering prices: the first has a hc of John M. Ford's The Dragon Waiting at $67.00, which is more than the $15.95 list price. (Scott Latham 18:11, 7 Feb 2007 (CST))

James Morrow, City of Truth, 1980 edition

Hi, Marc,

I saw you rejected my proposal to delete this one from the database. While I understand and support the notion that we should be growing, rather than pruning, here's the logic and resarch behind my proposal: 1.) City of Truth won the 1992 Nebula award for best novella. Had it been published in 1980, it would have been ineligible.

2.) Locus1 gives the following:

  1. * *City of Truth (Legend 0-7126-3693-5, Jan ’91 [Dec ’90], £9.99, 104pp, hc, cover by Steve Crisp) Sf novella about a city where everyone has to tell the truth, illustrated throughout by Steve Crisp. Recommended. (PSP)
  2. * _City of Truth (Legend 0-7126-4575-6, Jun ’91, £4.99, 104pp, tp, cover by Steve Crisp) Reprint (Legend 1991) sf novella.
  3. * +City of Truth (St. Martin’s 0-312-07672-X, May ’92 [Apr ’92], $14.95, 104pp, hc, cover by Steve Crisp) Sf novella of a city where everyone must tell the truth, illustrated by Steve Crisp. First American edition (Legend 1991).
  4. * _City of Truth (SFBC #01741, Jul ’92 [Aug ’92], $6.98, 104pp, hc, cover by Steve Crisp) Reprint (Legend 1991) sf novella of a city where everyone must tell the truth, illustrated by Steve Crisp. Similar to the 1992 St. Martin’s edition except it lacks an ISBN and price and the SFBC number is on the back jacket.
  5. * _City of Truth (Harcourt Brace 0-15-618042-1, May ’93 [Apr ’93], $7.95, 144pp, tp, cover by Steven Cooley) Reprint (Legend 1990) sf novella of a city where everyone must tell the truth. Winner of a 1992 Nebula Award.

Had there been an earlier edition, they would likely have cited it, and omitted the "double star" for first publication on the Legend Jan '91 edition.

3.) Locus entry from contents of Nebula Awards 28, ed. James Morrow (Harcourt Brace 0-15-600039-3, Apr ’94, $12.95, 328pp, tp:

228 • City of Truth • James Morrow • na London: Legend, 1991

4.) From the British Library holdings:

System number 007403899
Author - personal Morrow, James, 1947-
Title City of truth.
Publisher/year Legend, 1991.
Physical descr. [128]p.
Subject Fiction in English American writers 1945- Texts
Holdings (All) Details
Shelfmark H.91/472
ISBN 0712645756 (pbk) : £4.50
0712636935 (cased) : £8.99

5.) Although the ISBN may be valid, it is not valid for Warner Books: 7126 is the publisher number for Legend, a Century imprint.

What do you think? (Scott Latham 16:45, 5 Feb 2007 (CST))


Just based on the fact that there are ten listings in Bookfinder leads me to believe the book physically exists with that ISBN on the barcode and that the record should not be deleted. However, I agree with you that something is very wrong with the ISFDB record.
It’s really unfortunate that ISFDB does not give us an audit trail for how data is getting into the database. For now we need to reverse engineer things.
I went back to bookfinder and stared at the results for ISBN 0712636870. There are ten books and here's a summary of the Publisher line:
  • 2 Publisher: Century Pub. Co., 1980
  • 5 Publisher: Legend, 1980
  • 2 Publisher: Legend, 1990
  • 1 Publisher: Time Warner Books UK, 1980
The first number on each line is the count of how many listings used that publisher line.
There are a couple of likely sources for the “1980”
1) Book sellers are using an application where they just scan the barcode and the app looks up data on sites like Amazon using AWS. :To verify this I looked at the three English Amazon sites.
  • Amazon.com – Legend (January 1, 1980) (128 pages)
  • Amazon.co.uk – Legend (1 Jan 1980) (128 pages)
  • Amazon.ca – Time Warner Books UK (Jan 1 1980) (no page count)
That gives me a pretty comfortable feel for where the “Legend, 1980” and “Time Warner Books UK, 1980” entries could come from.
2) It’s possible the copyright date was printed wrong in the book. The book says 1980 when it should be 1990. To test this I then went to AbeBooks, looked up the title (188 results) and first searched for 1980. I did not find "1980" and so I then look for 1990 and see many listings for Century/Legend/St. Martins publications. AbeBooks does not include any listings for ISBN 0712636870 though.
Thus I suspect that while the book exists (based on ten bookfinder listings for the ISBN) that the publication date is either not stated (and people guess 1990 based on the copyright) or that it's 1991 or later.
I included the page count for the three Amazon listings because the book in ISFDB is listed as “Warner, 0-7126-3687-0, 128pp, hc” and I was trying to figure out the source of this ISFDB record. The page count must be from Amazon.com or .uk but that does not explain “Warner” as Amazon.ca has “Time Warner Books UK.”
What should be done about the publication record?
  • Well, for starters let’s copy/paste our entire discussion into the Bibliographic Comments to give others the background on what research has been done.
  • The date should be changed to 0000-00-00 (unknown date)
  • The publisher should be changed to blank (or Century/Legend) as it’s clearly not Warner.
  • A note gets added explaining that the publication may not exist and to see the Bibliographic Comments.
This would get the publication data in line with the verified publication records and hopefully at some point someone will show up with a physical copy.
The fact that the page count is 128 and that the sellers seem evenly distributed around the planet bothers me. The hc counts are 102/104 pages and the tp counts are 144 pages. Maybe we are dealing with a large print hc? The even distribution? I don't know what to make of that as usually you will see most listings for an ISBN from one country. Maybe it was only sold in international airport bookshops?
Marc Kupper (talk) 18:20, 5 Feb 2007 (CST)


Marc, I think my poor formatting obscured my first point, since you don't address it. To reiterate, City of Truth won the 1992 Nebula award for best novella. This means it was first published in 1991, so the 1980 records are spurious. I included the contents excerpt for Nebula 28 to reinforce the point, and note that James Morrow edited the book: I think he'd take care to get the citation right. (Scott Latham 20:31, 6 Feb 2007 (CST))

Scott, I had seen your comment about the Nebula Award and had changed the title record from 1980 to 1990 in response to that though am wondering if it should be 1991 as the story won the 1992 Nebula. The problem is that besides the 1980 record we've already discussed and there are two with a 1990 date, probably because the story copyright is 1990. The offending records are:
  1. City of Truth, (1980 , James Morrow, Warner, 0-7126-3687-0, 128pp, hc)
  2. City of Truth, (1990 , James Morrow, Century/Legend, 0-7126-3693-5, L9.99, 102pp, hc) Cover: Steve Crisp
  3. City of Truth, (1990 , James Morrow, Legend, B000DCO9KM, hc)
  • Number 1 has been beaten to death above and I had proposed to you an edit to the record - I went ahead with the edit
    • The date was changed from 1980-00-00 to 0000-00-00 (unknown date)
    • The publisher was changed from "Warner" to "Century/Legend" based on the ISBN
    • A note was added about looking at the bibliographic comments and this entire thread was copy/pasted into the comments.
    • This would get the publication data in line with the other publication records and hopefully at some point someone will show up with a physical copy.
  • Number 2 - Amazon UK lists this as Jan 31, 1991 and Locus says Jan'91. I changed the date to 1991-01-00 and added a note explaining that it may be Feb-1991 because Amazon often has the on-sale-by date and not the publication date. It's 99% that it's Jan-1991 but I have a policy of never changing existing data unless I can absolutely prove it does not belong meaning that if I stated "January" based on secondary data I want the source of that data to be clear so that if someone has a physical copy of the book they can be comfortable with changing the January to something else if needed.
  • Number 3 - That's an Amazon ASIN. Amazon says "Century (1990)" and nothing else. I suspect the record got added to Amazon as a result of a book club edition and those often don't state the printing date at all meaning someone used the copyright date. I decided to delete this ISFDB record.
  • I changed the title date from 1990 to 1991-01-00 and also added a note about the short story this novel is based on.

At this point the City of Truth title record should be reasonably clean. Marc Kupper (talk) 03:57, 7 Feb 2007 (CST)

That's a very elegant and satisfying solution! I'm sure the first edition was actually available in 1990, because it was reviewed on the November and December issues of Locus, but the pub date is January 1991, hence the eligibility for the Nebula. (Scott Latham 11:25, 7 Feb 2007 (CST))
Scott, your comment about the November/December 1990 rewiews brings up a very good point. I revised the title record notes to indicate the story was a Nebula winner and also that the story was available in some form as early as November 1990. Marc Kupper (talk) 17:01, 7 Feb 2007 (CST)

A Dozen Tough Jobs

Scott, just FYI -- when you know of a limited edition, as you mention in the notes to "A Dozen Tough Jobs", you can go ahead and enter it. If I recall Ziesing's conventions, this probably comes from a statement about the differing ISBNs on the copyright page; so long as you mention the source when you create that record I think you can go ahead and clone that pub (if you want to). You probably already knew this, but I thought I'd drop you a note to be sure. Thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 21:06, 7 Feb 2007 (CST)

Marc, thanks for the comment and encouragement. I'm not inclined to create a separate record for the limited edition, as it was issued at the same time as the trade edition, but I did think it worth noting in the comments. (Scott Latham 18:00, 8 Feb 2007 (CST))
Separate ISBNs are pretty much always worth entering separately since that way users can find them when they search for an ISBN :) Ahasuerus 18:16, 8 Feb 2007 (CST)
Can anyone explain why there's now a Bibliographic Warning on this title? I found it originally entered as a collection and changed it to novel, since it's a 135 page novella. What generated the error and how can I fix it? (Scott Latham 18:48, 8 Feb 2007 (CST))
That's because the title and one of the pubs disagree about what type the book is. Title types and pub types aren't identical things, but in some cases the ISFDB expects them to be the same. This is not (yet) enforced in the code. In this situation, the title is a COLLECTION, but one of the pubs is now a NOVEL. That causes the warning -- the ISFDB suspects (correctly) that there is an inconsistency. To fix it, one would use Edit Title to make the title a NOVEL. The other pubs might also need fixing -- I suspect they're all COLLECTIONs too, so making the title a NOVEL would cause a different warning (or several warnings).
With regard to the separate limited edition -- the ISFDB goal is to have a separate publication record for every different publication. Different printings, bindings, and so on are all different publications. There are some grey areas -- what about a numbered edition that is the same as the regular edition with a pasted-in bookplate? -- but that's the goal. There's no expectation that an editor will enter this kind of data as a publication, rather than making a note in the notes, since it's all volunteer labour and we're grateful for any record of the edition. However, it's definitely the case that the ISFDB ultimately will want that pub record separated. So I was just making sure you knew we cared about it, not implying you should have entered it.
By the way, are you the Scott Latham that wrote a foreword for a reprint Conklin anthology back in the 80s? I noticed that in Contento the other day, and wondered if it was you. Mike Christie (talk) 20:53, 8 Feb 2007 (CST)
Guilty as charged: I actually did that for two Conklin reprints, when I was working freelance in NYC.
Got it now: I'll go in and enter the limited editions as separate publications. BTW, the whole of the Waldrop listing is deeply flawed. Granted, it's not an easy one to sort out, because there are lots of same-content-except for-2-short stories issues. I'll try to take a look at it this weekend and propose a strategy. (Scott Latham 10:29, 9 Feb 2007 (CST))

SF vs. SS

Scott, I see you have submitted four or five merges in which you overwrite the story length with just "sf", which is the generic short fiction -- no length specified. Can I ask why? Normally I tend to leave lengths in that I find there, unless I have a good reason to correct them, in which case I normally have another length to substitute. So I was curious about your reasoning. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 21:06, 8 Feb 2007 (CST)

Mike, I got a bit confused on the merge titles screen, and figured that shortfiction was generic enough to cover: I hadn't meant to change them, just get the duplicates out. Can you change them? (Scott Latham 10:32, 9 Feb 2007 (CST))

A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire

Scott - I accidentially approved it (the link for approval is immediately below the link for "talk to the editor") I'm wondering why you submitted a make-new-variant title with the same name/author as the orignal. It's not that big a deal that it got approved but in looking at Michael Bishop's page I see that A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire is listed twice and there are three title records (one is hidden as it's the variant). I went ahead and merged them using the "Titles" link on the navbar. Marc Kupper (talk) 23:10, 10 Feb 2007 (CST)

Marc, you undid what I was trying to correct. The original A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire (1975) was rewritten in 1980 and issued as Eyes of Fire, with a new copyright. The Kerosina edition (1989) is of the 1980 text with the original title, which according to Bishop's web site, is his preferred text. Can you switch it back, or shall I? (Scott Latham 14:02, 11 Feb 2007 (CST))

Let's see if I have this one right before doing the edits. Michael Bishop's bibliography shows:
So the Kerosina (1989) book is titled A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire but happens to contain the Eyes of Fire text? Hmm, a nice mess for bibliographers. I deciced to deal with it this way
  1. Unmerge the Kerosina publication from A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire
  2. Edited the newly created title record and renamed it to A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire (1980 "Eyes of Fire" revision)
  3. From the new title record I did "make this a variant title" and make record # 1983 (Eyes of Fire (1980)) the parent title.
  4. Edited the Kerosina publication, changed its title to A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire (1980 "Eyes of Fire" revision) and add the following note explaining the mess.
While this publication is titled A Funeral for the Eyes of Fire which is the same title as the 1975 story the publication contains the extensively revised text that was published in 1980 as Eyes of Fire.
Hopefully the resulting bibliography will understood by most people. Marc Kupper (talk) 22:12, 15 Feb 2007 (CST)
Marc, I think that the extra step of adding parenthetical remarks to the variant title is a bit of overkill, given that it's explained in the title block and again on the publication notes. (Scott Latham 11:01, 16 Feb 2007 (CST))

Crescent City Rhapsody

Scott, under this title there are two pubs with the spelling "Cresent City Rhapsody", one of which you verified. Is this a typo on your part or is it really spelt that way? Just checking . . . . Mike Christie (talk) 19:38, 11 Feb 2007 (CST)

I think the operative word is Oops! I fixed it. (Scott Latham 20:54, 11 Feb 2007 (CST))

Strange Monsters of the Recent Past

Scott,

If I understand what you were trying to do with Strange Monsters of the Recent Past correctly, you wanted to make this book into an Omnibus containing one novel and one collection. Is that right? If so, then all you had to do was change the Publication type from Collection to Omnibus. I have tentatively implemented this change and was wondering if you could review the resulting Publication record and see if it looked reasonable? Thanks! Ahasuerus 13:38, 12 Feb 2007 (CST)

That was exactly what I was trying to do; thanks so much! (Scott Latham 15:10, 12 Feb 2007 (CST))
Excellent! :) Ahasuerus 15:36, 12 Feb 2007 (CST)

Making changes to story titles in the Contents section of a publication

Scott - I approved your update to Day Million but then went to the The Schematic Man title record which you had changed to Schematic Man and changed it back to The Schematic Man. The reason for this is if you look at The Schematic Man you will see that it's referenced by eight publications meaning when you changed you title you were affecting the contents listings for seven publications besides the one you were working on. Please see Help:Screen:EditPub#General_contents for information on making changes to the Contents section of a publication. Marc Kupper (talk) 21:39, 15 Feb 2007 (CST)

That's why I hesitated to change it, and double-checked the table of contents and the copyright page. They both show it as Schematic Man. Doing a bit more research, I see it was first published in the January 1969 issue of Playboy, under the title The Schematic Man. It also appears in a Rudy Rucker anthology as Schematic Man, which has not been merged with The Schematic Man. How can I make the entry for this publication reflect the TOC without changing the other publications? Can I just unmerge this story from the others, correct the TOC listing, then remerge it with the version in the Rucker anthology? (Scott Latham 16:11, 16 Feb 2007 (CST))
I took the opportunity to drop by Powell's Books after work, to check on the copy they had. It's the 1973 Pan edition here http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?DYMLLN1973. It also has Schematic Man on the contents and copyright pages. Can you tell in the database which of the copies of Day Million was entered first? There's a chance that the others were cloned from it. (Scott Latham 20:58, 16 Feb 2007 (CST))
It's not just the "Day Million" entries, my copy of "The Problem Pit" has the "The" too. I know it seems trivial, but I think Variant Title is the way to go - the search functionality for normal users breaks if we remove the exact title. I do a lot of these things as I do a lot of Short SF collections - my method is to add the new title and mark the page for the old one as "NA", then when it's approved go back and delete the old entry and add the variant title. I know, it's a pain, but I've suggested a few things that might make it a bit smoother, although I doubt we'll get it down to a one-step process anytime soon. BLongley 14:38, 18 Feb 2007 (CST)
Sorry it took so long to approve the removal of the story from the affected editions! I missed this section of the Talk page when I put the submission on hold :( It's been approved now.
As far as the general question goes, Bill's way of creating Variant Titles is the one that we generally use since it seems to be the least time consuming approach. We just need to add another Note field to the Title Removal form to communicate the intent to Moderators. Ahasuerus 16:26, 19 Feb 2007 (CST)

The Age of the Pussyfoot

I see you submitted a title merge of this title, so I thought I'd go see what was done. But the title appears to have disappeared totally, although the serial is there and there's a review too? I have a copy of the Pub here (with both "the"s), so I'm wondering if it got merged with something it shouldn't have? BLongley 08:47, 18 Feb 2007 (CST)

Hi, Bill - that actually was what we call a mistake: I picked the wrong title when I did the merge. Can't say why it has disappeared... (Scott Latham 15:40, 18 Feb 2007 (CST))
No worries, it's easily fixed, I think. All the publications are fine still, as far as I can see. BLongley 16:32, 18 Feb 2007 (CST)

Moderator nomination

Scott, would you be willing to be nominated to be a moderator? If so, let me know (here or on my talk page) and I'll post a note at the Community Portal for discussion of the nomination. Two pages you might want to look at are Moderator Qualifications and Help:Screen:Moderator. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 17:35, 20 Feb 2007 (CST)

Thanks, Mike: I've read through the pages you linked, and I'd be pleased to become a moderator and share in the great work! (Scott Latham 11:08, 23 Feb 2007 (CST))

Kage Baker

Scott, reviewing your submission of the contents of Kage Baker's latest collection, I began to wonder if you are using "nt" and "nv" the way they are defined in the Help pages, i.e.:

  • nt - Novelette - A work whose length is greater than 7,500 words and less than or equal to 17,500 words. (Roughly 20 to 50 pages in a book.)
  • nv - Novella - A work whose length is greater than 17,500 words and less than or equal to 40,000 words. (Roughly 50 to 100 pages in a book.)

For example, you marked "The Angel in Darkness", a 76 page piece, as "nt" and "A Night on the Barbary Coast", a 21 page pieces, as "nv". Was that in error or were you using different definitions of "nt" and "nv"? Thanks! Ahasuerus 01:11, 24 Feb 2007 (CST)

It was an error. I'll go in and correct them ASAP. (Scott Latham 12:00, 24 Feb 2007 (CST))
Thanks! I have approved the submission so all you need to do is pull it up and edit :) Ahasuerus 13:15, 24 Feb 2007 (CST)

Gods And Pawns

Scott, I have approved the Gods And Pawns corrections, but are you sure that A Night on the Barbary Coast (21 pages) is a novella and not a novelette? Ahasuerus 20:51, 27 Feb 2007 (CST)

Right you are. It's a trial to follow the unsorted title listing and try to quickly calculate length, but I guess it's a skill I need to hone. ((Scott Latham 21:08, 27 Feb 2007 (CST))
We have debated changing the Contents display order in the Edit Pub form from the current (alphabetized) one to one based on page numbers. However, it doesn't work when page numbers haven't been entered yet, so the idea was abandoned a while back :( Ahasuerus 21:25, 27 Feb 2007 (CST)

Lupoff The Triune Man and The Forever City

I just mistakenly created a new publication of The Forever City under The Triune Man: please reject it ASAP! (Scott Latham 21:08, 27 Feb 2007 (CST))

Too late -- it would appear that I approved the submission right away :( I can't seem to be able to tell which one it was by looking at the list of The Triune Man Publication records. Can you spot it and submit a "Delete Pub" request? Thanks! Ahasuerus 21:22, 27 Feb 2007 (CST)
Dead and buried! :) Ahasuerus 21:36, 27 Feb 2007 (CST)

Simak

Scott, one your recent Simak submissions reminded me that a couple of days ago you tried to reverse the canonical and variant titles of Time and Again by changing what was then the Variant Tile. I foolishly clicked on "Approve" before thinking it through (even though I should have known better) and the result was a mess that took me about half a dozen edits to fix.

After thinking some more about it, I belive that the best way to flip flop title pairs is to first break the relationship between them by entering "0" in the "Parent #" field in the Make Variant Title form. Once the titles have been unlinked, we can relink them the right way easily enough. The only thing to keep in mind is that sometimes associated Publication records are linked to the wrong Title, so they would need to be fixed along the way as well.

We will probably want to experiment with this approach some more and, once we are sure that it works, do a write-up for the Help pages. Ahasuerus 23:15, 27 Feb 2007 (CST)

Sorry to have caused extra work, but could you explain in more detail what went wrong as a result of the initial title edit? I'm pretty sure I had not at that point entered the publication with the variant title. (Scott Latham 10:26, 28 Feb 2007 (CST))
No problem, happens all the time! I find that I often approve other editors' submissions without thinking everything through and then kick myself in the pseudopod and have to redo them. In this case the problem was that we had a Variant Title relationship "A is a VT of B". When you changed "B" to "A", it became "A is a VT of A". At that point the display logic becemae somewhat unhappy/confused and you could no longer easily get to the original "A" record. I had to do some merges and unmerges to get everything back in order, but we may have learned a useful lesson in the process. I will post the "proposed approach to flipping VTs" on the Community portal shortly and see if it makes sense to other editors. Ahasuerus 18:54, 28 Feb 2007 (CST)

Moderator status

You are now a moderator. Congratulations; ask any of the existing moderators if you have any questions. Mike Christie (talk) 18:31, 1 Mar 2007 (CST)

Date changes

Scott - I did not realize you were a moderator yet and approved some updates from you but held up a bunch of date changes for Kuttner as the dates you want to use don't seem to match what's on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kuttner and/or http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/henry-kuttner/. I'll let you look over the submissions and approve/fix them as needed. Marc Kupper (talk) 21:04, 1 Mar 2007 (CST)

Hi, Marc. The date changes were done to get the title date to agree with the year of first book publication: most of Kuttner's work first appeared in serial form, so that's why the sources you cite are using earlier dates (they're actually copyright dates). From reading the help and archived community portal pages, I think we've all agreed that the title date should reflect first publication in book form. I also checked my copy of Currey, to make sure I had first publication. Unless you object, I'll approve those edits this evening. (Scott Latham 10:18, 2 Mar 2007 (CST))
At one point there was confusion on my part about the title-date field in that I had mentally translated Template:TitleFields:Date into being "date of first book publication" and after discussion and rereading the help I realized it's date of first publication with the one exception being serialized stories where we track the date of first publication as a whole. I believe book publishers also do this as I'll see that the copyright is often that of the first book publication and not the earlier serialized story. Somehow I had confused this into "earlier magazine story" and not just "earlier serialized story".
For example, the first update is for Beyond Earth's Gates - you want to change this from 1949 to 1954. ISFDB does not show the 1949 appearance but the wikipedia says this is a variant title of The Portal in the Picture (this vt is not shown in ISFDB but I'd want to do some more research) which was published in magazine form in 1949. Thus assuming the vt relationship noted on wikipedia is correct then I'd either reject this edit or approve it and then change the date back to 1949.
The reason these date changes got my attention is I have found that ISFDB tends to be pretty accurate about the older stories and my default reaction as a reviewer is to hold the submissions and research them when I see changes. With the newer stuff that's uploaded from Amazon I know the odds are that it's safe to approve editor changes without research. Marc Kupper (talk) 11:33, 2 Mar 2007 (CST)
Marc, here's what the page you cite says (with emphasis added):
Serializations. If a work has been serialized in a magazine, there may be a difference between the first magazine publication and the first book publication. "Skylark of Valeron (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1195)", for example, appeared as a magazine serialization in 1933-4, but was not published in book form until 1949. In these cases, record the first book publication date. A note in the title field can record the magazine serialization date, if there is one.
That's why I changed the dates. (Scott Latham 12:23, 2 Mar 2007 (CST))
There may be some Kuttner-specific confusion here. Most of Kuttner's (and/or Moore's) "novels" originally appeared in a single pulp issue (usually ASF or the Starling Twins) in the 1940s. Sometimes they were billed as "complete novels", sometimes they weren't, but they were all pretty short and as we all know, a "complete novel" of the pulp era was typically a euphemism for "novella". These "novels" were reprinted by Ace and other publishers as standalone books in the 1950s and 1960s, but the only reason that they had more than 100 pages was the low word count per page.
The immediate problem with the way these titles were listed in the ISFDB was that most of them were listed as "novellas" and not serials. I have now changed them to "serials" and appended "(complete novel)" to the Serial Title records (our halfbaked standard for serials that appeared in a single issue), so they are now appearing under their associated "novel" Titles. We can now safely change the "novel" Title dates to the dates of the first book publication and everything should be back in working order. Hopefully :) Ahasuerus 14:45, 2 Mar 2007 (CST)
Hmm - so you are saying that if we have a shortfiction work that only shows up in magazines, anthologies, and collections then the title record will have the date of first publication in any form (including a magazine). If that story is then published as a standalone novel (or perhaps 1/2 of an Ace double) that we change the original title record to type SERIAL, and add a new title record of type NOVEL, and the date of that record is the first book publication? I had been thinking that "SERIAL" meant a story that was published in two or more parts (regardless on if it ever gets published as a whole).
That's pretty much how it currently works. A quick search on "complete novel" finds about 200 records that use this convention. One thing to note is that there were quite a few legitimate (>100 book pages) novels published in a single pulp issue. I am not crazy about this scheme, but at least it lets us capture and conveniently display all the information that we need. Ahasuerus 10:30, 5 Mar 2007 (CST)
ok - I'll figure out how to reword the help and add a note to the community portal because at present there are some title merges in the queue of novels+shortfiction involving a stories published as part of a larger works (magazine, anthology, collection, but not omnibus) and as a standalone works. Marc Kupper (talk) 11:44, 5 Mar 2007 (CST)
To clear out the queue and to make a linkable record of what's being changed I approved all of the pending date changes. Note I am not showing the -00-00 that was appended to each of these.
Title Old Date New Date Comments
Beyond Earth's Gates 1949 1954 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kuttner indicates this is a vt of The Portal in the Picture which turns out to be published in as a "complete novel" in Startling Stories Sep 1949 image). The "modern" book versions are 138 pages long meaning either it's expanded or a very low word count per page.
Chessboard Planet 1946 1951 This was serialized (two parts) as The Fairy Chessmen though the first standalone book publication in ISFDB is 1956.
Earth's Last Citadel 1943 1964 Serialized in Argosy either April-1943 and July-1943 or maybe it's a single in June-1943 (I can't find a TOC or cover image for Argosy). An Amazon review says it was the very last piece of science fiction to be serialized in Argosy. Reprinted in Fantastic novels magazine July 1950 image implying this is the first publication as a whole and then reprinted as a whole in book form by Ace in 1964.
Fury 1947 1950 That one was easy for a change - 3-part serial
The Creature from Beyond Infinity 1940 1968 This one seems to be a single (not serial) in Startling Stories Nov. 1940 under the title A Million Years to Conquer
The Dark World 1946 1965 I ran out of time
The Mask of Circe 1948 1971
The Time Axis 1948 1965
The Well of the Worlds 1952 1953
Valley of the Flame 1946 1964
Guys, I'm happy to follow the desire of the majority on this issue, and I realize that my personal preference arises from the fact that I'm a collector, and thus view first edition and the title date issue as synonymous. To me (and most book collectors) the first edition is the first publication in book form of the entirety of a work, regardless of whether it had appeared previously in some other form (e.g., serializied, as a play, in a single issue magazine). For me, it naturally follows that the paperbacks above are in fact the first publication in book form, so I'd naturally think of the date of its publication as the title date. It would make the ISFDB more useful to me if this were the convention followed, but I could live with the converse (first appearance anywhere in any form), so long as we all take the same approach. Do you think this needs elevation to the Community Portal (and eventually to Help? (Scott Latham 14:17, 5 Mar 2007 (CST))
It's not just you :-) The notion that the "first edition" of a book is its first appearance in book form is pretty widespread and used not only by collectors, but also by most genre encyclopedias, e.g. the Clutes, which list both dates. That was one of the main reasons why we adopted the dual NOVEL/SERIAL display in the first place, to be consistent with other sources.
Unfortunately, although it makes the ISFDB consistent with other bibliographies, it also makes our data somewhat internally inconsistent since short fiction pieces use the date of their first publication anywhere (magazine, anthology, etc). Borderline novels/novellas like these Kuttner books just bring this weakness of the current scheme into focus, but I don't think there is much we can do about it without breaking half a dozen other things. Ahasuerus 14:35, 5 Mar 2007 (CST)
Actually, the case of short fiction is probably one we should all the trying to think through. I see a number of novellas or novelettes appearing as chapbooks or even in hardcover book form, some with fine Corinthian leather covers: do we want to continue to relegate them to the Shortfiction section? When are they real enough (or expensive enough) to be listed with the novels? And the proximate case, these novellas that used to be considered full-length books? (Scott Latham 16:26, 5 Mar 2007 (CST))

Wayland Young / Wayland Hilton-Young

Hi Scott, I noticed you verified a publication with a copy of his one story in, and wondered if there was any more info in it to see if this story and this one are actually credited the exact same way or not. Also, is there any indication that the author is actually this blue-blooded bloke?
And finally, I see a similarity between R. Scott Latham and Scott Latham - any relation? BLongley 14:14, 4 Mar 2007 (CST)

Hi, Bill. On a second look at the Omnibus, I find that the credit is actually W. Hilton-Young, on both the copyright pages and TOC, so I'll correct that soon. The credit for original publication is the March 19, 1953 issue of Punch, so I wouldn't be surprised if W. Hilton-Young and Wayland Hilton Young are the same person. And, yes, as Mike Christie noted above, I am that R. Scott Latham. (Scott Latham 14:35, 4 Mar 2007 (CST))

Swords Against Death

I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to make this title the reference title instead of Two Sought Adventure. This 1970 publication is the first edition of the second volume in the canonical sequence of the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser series. All subsequent publications should refer to this title, not Two Sought Adventure which is no longer published as such. Any help is appreciated. Mhhutchins 15:20, 4 Mar 2007 (CST)

My understanding of this phenomenon is a bit shaky, but I believe this is the sequence:
First use Unmerge to remove all of the Swords Against Death publications from Two Sought Adventure.
Then, use the Titles screen to merge all of the Swords Against Death publications.
Last, relink Swords Against Death into the canonical series in its proper place.
This is something I've been meaning to attend to for some time. (Scott Latham 17:16, 4 Mar 2007 (CST))
I've followed your directions and it appears to have worked. Thanks for the assistance. Mhhutchins 18:09, 4 Mar 2007 (CST)

Space War Blues

Oops - I was not paying attention to who proposed the deletion and realized you could have just approved it yourself. I am mightly confused by your delete note for Space War Blues though. "Reason for deletion: Although this could probably be considered a fix-up of the stories listed, it adds new material, is extensively rewritten, and the component parts are re-sequenced such that O consider it a new work." From what's said on Amazon The publication does appear to be a genre novel. Why do you want to delete it? Also - Amazon lists George Barr as a co-author. As he's normally a cover artist I'd assume he did the cover for this book and we could add that as a note (explaining that he's credited on Amazon as an author and is probably the cover artist.) Marc Kupper (talk) 01:46, 7 Mar 2007 (CST)

Marc, I purposely didn't approve that deletion because I wanted another moderator to agree to the deletion. Space War Blues is almost always considered a novel, and that's certainly how Lupoff and his bibliographer list it. The publication I proposed to delete was a "collection" of several short stories that were incorporated into the novel, with new material. So what I did was incorporate that information into the Title notes for the novel version and delete the collection. Does that make more sense? (Scott Latham)
This COLLECTION publication likely comes from Contento, who typically tries to be inclusive, so he lists fixups as collections.
As a general observation, fixups are slippery creatires. On the one hand, listing the stories that a fixup was based on can be misleading if they were substantially rewritten. On the other hand, we presumably want to document the relationship between the original stories and the eventual fixup in some way. We have talked about these issues in the past, but no comprehensive solution has emerged so far. Ahasuerus 18:24, 7 Mar 2007 (CST)
Ahasuerus added the previous comment as I was typing this one and I got an edit conflict - hence there is some overlap in what we say.
That makes perfect sense Scott and so I went ahead with deleting the collection. What I had done before was from the publication I went to the title reference and only saw the single publication. Thus I thought you wanted to delete the one and only record and I did not realize that there was a second title record for the story as a novel that contained the same publication (as a novel). I've thought about ways we could implement these fuzzy links where stories are related but so far the "great idea" on how to do this is elusive.
I looked at the record you verified - I guess the cover artist is not credited? Amazon credits George Barr as a co-author though there's no telling where that bit of information came from. Sometimes when I see something like this I add a note that the cover artist is not credited nor is a signature visible in the book but that the cover artist might be George Barr as Amazon.com lists George Barr as a co-author for the story. I would not list George Barr in the ISFDB cover artist field without better evidence than an Amazon listing though. :-) Marc Kupper (talk) 18:33, 7 Mar 2007 (CST)
And I also just got an edit conflict while trying to add the following: I agree that documenting the relationship is good, which is why I included that as a Title note. OTOH, if you read Harlan Ellison's intro and Lupoff's preface, you get a good sense that the stories gave him ideas and plot points, but are not simply reproduced verbatim, which is what I think of as a fix-up. (Scott Latham 18:38, 7 Mar 2007 (CST))
If it helps any, here's a link to what I wrote about the novel on Wikipedia. You might find the contents part of the write-up interesting. (Also on the notes "Our Own Little Mardi Grass" should be "Our Own Little Mardi Gras") Mhhutchins 18:49, 7 Mar 2007 (CST)
I bow to superior research and execution: excellent article and the "collection" is now toast! (Scott Latham 20:20, 7 Mar 2007 (CST))

Sleepless Nights in the Procrustean Bed

I submitted an update for this Harlan Ellison nonfiction collection, including all contents, and you approved it. But the title is no longer listed on Ellison's summary page. Strange, don't you think? Mhhutchins 18:18, 14 Mar 2007 (CDT)

In all likelihood, the last update changed the main NONFICTION Title -- which is what the software uses to establish the Publication-Title link -- in this Publication to something else, probably an ESSAY. It's a common problem with updates and easy enought to fix: just add a new NONFICTION Title called "Sleepless Nights in the Procrustean Bed" to the Publication and the link will be re-established. Once it goes through, you may want to check for any other Publications that used to link to this Title and relink/remerge them.
I think we may need some kind of warning when editors change publication types since it tends to cause problems. Ideally, all of these complexities would be hidden from the users, but as long as we have one active programmer (who has a family, a full time job, etc), I don't see it happening any time soon. Ahasuerus 18:47, 14 Mar 2007 (CDT)

The Time Patrol as a collection

The Time Patrol is a collection that contains two novel-length stories (+40k words) and seven shorter pieces. --Swfritter 17:06, 15 Mar 2007 (CDT)

BLongley/Sheckley

Scott, I put a Blongley mkvariant on hold because it looked reversed, and then realized that the sub had already been queried by you on Bill's page. As it turns out, it was display bug 20098, which I recognized because I've been bitten by it before. So I approved it -- since I'd put it on hold I couldn't unhold it at that point, so it already had my fingerprints on it. Anyway, sorry for poking into one you were looking at -- I assume you just forgot to put this one on hold. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 17:44, 24 Mar 2007 (CDT)

No worries - it worked, and (hopefully) helped me with a "Mugwump 4/Four" mkvariant approval I did. Is this something for the "new moderators guide" that I haven't found yet? ;-) BLongley 16:21, 30 Mar 2007 (CDT)

Comment on "Fondly Fahrenheit"

Could you please double check Starlight: The Great Short Fiction of Alfred Bester STRLGHTTJM1977 and see if the story Comment on Fondly Fahrenheit is titled Comment on Fondly Fahrenheit or Comment on "Fondly Fahrenheit". See User_talk:JVjr#Comment_on_.22Fondly_Fahrenheit.22 where it turns out that Locus/Contendo only show versions with the quotes. Thank you. Marc Kupper (talk) 12:01, 26 Mar 2007 (CDT)

The table of contents entry reads: Comment on Fondly Fahrenheit
The title page (69) reads: Comment on Fondly Fahrenheit
The running header (pp. 71) reads: (Comment on) Fondly Fahrehheit
So, there seem to be any number of answers... (Scott Latham 19:55, 26 Mar 2007 (CDT))
Thank you Scott. Marc Kupper (talk) 22:40, 2 Apr 2007 (CDT)

NESFA index

Scott, the NESFA index arrived today; thank you very much! I really appreciate the gift. It will certainly get used (as if I need more excuses to spend time here). Mike Christie (talk) 18:33, 29 Mar 2007 (CDT)

The Incomplete Enchanter

Scott, i went and had alook at my copy and its the 2nd edition($0.40). The photo is the $0.35 1st edition. I've made the neccesary change and submitted it. My 2nd edition has a new cover by Emsh. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.:-)Kraang 21:20, 2 Apr 2007 (CDT)

That makes a lot of sense since the picture all but screamed "Powers!" :) I have removed it (http://members.cox.net/sjrohde3/images/books_d/decamp_enchant_pyrg530.jpg) from the Publication record for now to avoid confusion. Ahasuerus 21:25, 2 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Ditto your reaction: I didn't see who else it could be! (Scott Latham 16:15, 3 Apr 2007 (CDT))

A verification request: Silverberg's MU/ugwump Four

You've verified, so presumably own / have access to, Robert Silverberg's collection The Cube Root of Uncertainty. Could you please check whether the eighth story was called "Mugwump Four" or indeed "MUgwump Four" with capital U, and possibly also whether (and how) this phrase appears in the text? (When making "Mugwump 4" from another publication its variant, the capitalization was changed, possibly in error; see the discussion at User talk:JVjr#Mugwump Four/4 or notes to 44008.) Thanks, --JVjr 05:11, 6 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Happy to be of service!
On the copyright page: Mugwump Four
On the table of contents: MUGWUMP FOUR
On the title page (143): Mugwump Four
On the running head (pp.144-167): Mugwump Four
No use of unusual mixed case in any title, although, as pointed out on your discussion, it does appear within the story. (Scott Latham 19:12, 6 Apr 2007 (CDT))
Darnit! I was hoping you'd prove me an idiot for "correcting" an obvious protected-case title... :-(
If we can't find a definite "MUgwump" we'll have to find another example for the help, as "EXTRO" is a lousy example and JVjr has better, although none I can confirm. BLongley 20:13, 7 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Howard Waldrop's Going Home Again

Scott, I noticed you verified this edition of Waldrop's collection. I was entering page numbers when I noticed that my copy has a printed price of $22.95 on the front inside flap, and above the barcode on the back of the dustcover. Did I pay more for my copy? :-/ Mhhutchins 18:03, 12 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Nice catch, Michael! One of the perils of entering from a library copy where the tape holding the jacket protector covers the price. Should have double-checked in Locus before, not after, verifying. (Scott Latham 18:09, 12 Apr 2007 (CDT))

Down Here in the Dream Quarter, 1976 , Barry N. Malzberg

You verified this publication back in February. Can you get your hands on it again easily? I need to check if "The Destruction and Exculpation of Earth" • (1973) • shortstory by Barry N. Malzberg, from this book and the hc edition of "Nove 3" is the same story as "Dreaming and Conversions: Two Rules by Which to Live" • shortfiction by Barry N. Malzberg, from the pb version of "Nova 3" as I suspect they are despite different dates, although the latter may have some added writing. The story I have has two 'Chapters' long, the first is "The Destruction and Exculpation of Earth", but there is a second called, "Introduction to the Second Edition" that is five paragraphs long, and ends with the words "they would offer me." Is this the same as in your book? Thanks, CoachPaul 09:56, 27 Apr 2007 (CDT)

I have the hardcover editions of Nova 3 and Down Here in the Dream Quarter in my collection, but not the paperback edition of Nova 3. I can check my copies tomorrow to see if the text is identical. BTW, Contento doesn't list any differences, but that's not a 100% guarantee by any means. Ahasuerus 11:06, 27 Apr 2007 (CDT)
In the publication I verified "The Destruction and Exculpation of Earth" is followed by an "Afterword to The Destruction and Exculpation of Earth," which is three paragraphs long, beginning "Somewhere in mid-1970, I became interested in an alternating narrative voice, a way to write a story so that first and third person could be simultaneously employed." It ends "Having said that I think I ad better say no more." I would not be surprised if the author had revised the story later, since one of the burdens of this afterword is that nobody had ever commented on it. (Scott Latham 18:42, 27 Apr 2007 (CDT))
OK, I have fleshed out and verified the hardover edition of Nova 3 (1973). It contains "Dreaming and Conversions: Two Rules by Which to Live", which in turn consists of "The Destruction and Exculpation of Earth" and "Introduction to the Second Edition". The text seems to be the same as what you have in the paperback reprint of Nova 3. On the other hand, the Down in the Dream Quarter versios is quite different: it contains just the first part, i.e. "Dreaming and Conversions: Two Rules by Which to Live", there is no trace of "Introduction to the Second Edition" and there are a few textual differences vis a vis the first part of the Nova 3 publication.
Here is what apparently happened with this story accoring to Malzberg's afterword in Down in the Dream Quarter: "I had no luck selling this story [...] had to wait two years until Harry Harrison, the most tolerant editor to whom I have ever sold stories, opened up Nova 3 and allowed me to give it to him in a slightly rewritten version". He doesn't explain where the second five paragraph story came from unless it was a part of the "slight revisions", although adding what is pretty much a separate story would seemingly go beyond "slighty".
In other words, the text published in Down in the Dream Quarter as "Destruction and Exculpation of Earth" is presumably the restored version of the first part of "Dreaming and Conversions: Two Rules by Which to Live". Ahasuerus 00:45, 28 Apr 2007 (CDT)

John Brown's Body

Please take a look at User_talk:WimLewis#John_Brown.27s_Body where an editor has submitted an update to one of your verified publications. Marc Kupper (talk) 15:59, 27 Apr 2007 (CDT)

1,000 club

Thanks Scott. When I saw the verification feature I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, and have been obsessed with helping break the percentage barriers on the statistics page ever since. It makes the bibliography so much more useful. Hopefully there will be a few more members of this exclusive club before long. --Unapersson 14:08, 30 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Adding my congratulations to the two of you! We really have Mike Christie to thank for this feature, he was the one who pushed the idea ca. June 2006 while I wasn't sure that it was worth bumping up the list of priorities. In retrospect, I couldn't be more wrong :)
BTW, Scott, you recently verified the Airmont edition of The Duplicated Man published as by "Robert Lowndes and James Blish". However, this publication is currently listed under The Duplicated Man by James Blish and Robert A. W. Lowndes, which makes it a Stray Publication under Robert Lowndes. Wouldn't we want to make it into a variant title of the "Robert A. W. Lowndes" title? Ahasuerus 16:57, 30 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Agreed: how do I go about doing so? (This is something I've never found very clear or intuitive.) (Scott Latham 19:41, 30 Apr 2007 (CDT))
We do have two separate Title records at this time, one for The Duplicated Man as written by James Blish and Robert A. W. Lowndes and one for The Duplicated Man as written by Robert Lowndes and James Blish. The problem is that the Airmont Publication record is currently pointing to the former instead of the latter, which causes the mismatch and subsequent confusion. All you have to do is Unmerge the pub from the wrong Title and then Merge it with the right Title and all will be right with the world again! Not that it will change the fact that the novel was a big mess :) Ahasuerus 21:54, 30 Apr 2007 (CDT)

In the Country of the Blind

Your proposed merge [1] got my interest as I have read/verified the story as credited by Michael Flynn. The main thing that'll change if the merge goes through is that Michael_F._Flynn's page will no longer have an "[as by Michael Flynn ]". Marc Kupper (talk) 10:01, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

As you can tell by now, on my first pass through, I missed the separate 2001 entry, which I'd guess to be your handiwork. When I finally saw it, I made a bunch of edits to try to get back to where it had been originally. I think it's okay now, except for some spurious variants, but feel free to do whatever editing you think would improve the situation. (Scott Latham 12:54, 8 May 2007 (CDT))
Yes, I added the 2001 edition stuff as it seems like the story itself was revised in 2001. I could have made it a variant title but usually reserve VTs for when the story is exactly the same and only the title is changing. At the moment things seem fine except I'm not sure why you wanted to merge the title records. Marc Kupper (talk) 02:52, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

The Mote in God's Eye

Scott, you verified this edition of the Niven & Pournelle novel. Can you double check the publication date? I've seen references to the Simon & Schuster first edition as being published in October 1974, so the first paperback would probably have been a year or so later. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:50, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Template:Melvyl suggests that the first paperback edition was published in 1975, but subsequent Timescape reprints may have used the original (1974) copyright date instead of the actual publication date. Ahasuerus 15:58, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
Both are correct: the publication in questions actually says "Simon and Schuster edition published 1974. Pocket Book edition October, 1975." I'll correct it. (Scott Latham 19:53, 8 May 2007 (CDT))

Fred Hoyle's Element 79

Hi scott i see you verified the Signet P3463 with a printing date of 1968. My copy is dated May, 1969. Also could let me know were it was printed ie. US or Canada? Thanks :-)Kraang 20:21, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

I rechecked the book and updated my listing: the Signet publication date is May, 1968, and it is printed in the United States. Hope this helps!(Scott Latham 20:00, 14 May 2007 (CDT))

David Gerrold's The Man Who Folded Himself

Scott, can you check your verification of this edition of Gerrold's novel? Popular Library almost never gave an actual publication date, opting instead for the copyright date. It's possible that they published this paperback edition the same year as the paperback, but not likely. Thanks! Mhhutchins 18:49, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

Michael, I've reset the publication to date unknown. Too bad that we eventually lose track of the sort of ephemera that would allow us to establish pub dates for the likes of Popular Library... (Scott Latham 19:11, 19 May 2007 (CDT))
Somewhere in the dark recesses of Time Warner there had to have been records of Popular Library's publications when it became Warner Books. Now that they've been sold off, do such records get transferred or destroyed? I have to believe that such grand old publishers like Charles Scribner's, Simon & Schuster, Henry Holt, and Doubleday & Co. had to have kept such records. But now that they're all part of multi-national conglomerates whose only concern is the bottom line, their histories mean nothing. Sad indeed. Mhhutchins 20:34, 19 May 2007 (CDT)
Have you folks used Jon Warren's The Official (R) Price Guide: Paperbacks (New York, House of Collectibles, 1991, ISBN 0876377932, 934p.) and, if so, have you found it to be reliable? I have a copy, but I have never done any serious cross-checking... Ahasuerus 00:48, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Harry Harrison, The Year 2000

Scott wrote on Marc's page

I see you have done your usual meticulous job of verification of this publication. I checked my copy of Jane Frank's The Art of Richard Powers, and she confirms the cover credit you suspect. Would you like to update your verification? (Scott Latham 18:26, 19 May 2007 (CDT))
Thank you Scott. I updated the pub-notes and also set the cover artist as that source seems reliable enough. Marc Kupper (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

Disch's Fun With Your New Head

For this listing there's a note that the date of publication is from the author's website. I just verified the SFBC edition and I'm pretty sure it was published in April, 1971 (I don't have the club announcement, but a pencilled notation of the date.) Locus gives the date of the original Doubleday edition as December of 1970, which is more in line with the book club date. I found the website that the note is referring to and it appears to be fan-maintained. (Nothing against fan-maintained websites. Most of the time they're better than the author's own website.) I also noticed something unusual about the page numbers of the two Doubleday editions. It's the first time I've ever seen that one of Doubleday's own publications had two different editions (other than simply substituting a title and copyright page.) This must have been before Doubleday switched over to cheap production values for both their trade and book club editions. Your copy must be clothbound, while mine is paper-on-board. Mhhutchins 16:39, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

My pb copy is no help in this matter, but my Library has one of the hb's by Doubleday which I placed a hold on and shouold be able to pick up by the weekend. Their catalog only lists a copyright date of 1968 but when I pick it up I'll pass along any publishing dates that I find. CoachPaul 17:10, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
The OCLC record (118680) for the first edition was created on 1971-02-12, which suggests that Contento's 1970-12-00 date is about right. I can check Reginald-1 in a few days as well. Ahasuerus 17:24, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
My copy is the trade edition, cloth on boards. The title page reads (in part) "New York, 1971." The copyright page says "First published by Rupert Hart-Davis Ltd, London, 1968," "Library of Congress Card Number 72-132503," and "First edition in the United States of America." There's a printer's code of L51 on page 207. As is often the case with Doubleday, there are no helpful dates on the dust jacket. No help from Currey, beyond 1971. I admit to being influenced by the precision of the date on the web-site, but hold no particular brief for it, beyond your observation that fan's are sometimes more accurate (well, fanatical) than authors. (Scott Latham 21:02, 21 May 2007 (CDT))
I get uncomfortable when publication dates here get more precise than the Year and Month. For first publications in a weekly magazine, maybe. But even putting the Month on leads to an awful lot of merging of short-fiction and leaving things at the year level would make it easier. Time for a new policy discussion maybe? BLongley 16:16, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
Bill, I really like having exact publication dates for books, when they are available and documented. Probably comes from my time in book publishing, and remembering that publication dates were an event, sometimes the excuse for a party. And it's still true that fans eagerly await the actual publication of their favorite author's new book, so knowing retrospectively what the magic date was is nice. I do however take your point about magazine publication. (Scott Latham 10:26, 23 May 2007 (CDT))
It's the "when available and documented" that bothers me. Exact publication dates are NOT likely to be available in the physical publications, for instance. A lot seem to come from Amazon, who ADMIT that you can't enter a "vague" date, so they're actively encouraging people to GUESS the exact day. I'm not against them on principle, i just don't trust a lot of them. But there are a few pretty reliable sources, e.g. I'm pretty sure about the date of the next Harry Potter and that hasn't even happened yet! So if the (potential) policy discussion ends up with a list of recognised reliable sources (maybe the publisher's own sites, or a more accurate book-seller source) I'm happy with that - although it's a lot simpler to set the date AFTER all the editions have been entered! BLongley 14:14, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
That's why I'm such a fan of review copies, the ones that have a prospectus from the publishers that almost always gives the publication date. Great fun, and always worth the additional expense, IMHO. (Scott Latham 15:53, 23 May 2007 (CDT))
I have the opposite experience - I've acquired a few review copies, by accident, mostly, and here they tend to have PROPOSED publication dates on an insert. I've not yet found one that was accurate... :-( . Still, maybe the "official" date is what is wanted here rather than the actual date. I think I got most of my review copies from shops that got fed up waiting! BLongley 17:34, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

One last push!

At time of writing, you're only 25 contributions behind Dissembler - go for it! Reclaim ISFDB for the humans! (You ARE human, aren't you?) ;-) BLongley 16:16, 22 May 2007 (CDT)

Done. Feel better now (Mr.-150%-of-Dissembler-contributions)? (Scott Latham 10:57, 24 May 2007 (CDT))
Er, you do realize that overall Dissembler is responsible for more than 50,000 ISFDB records, right? :) Ahasuerus 11:27, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
I think both Bill and I are referring to the Top Contributors list ranking of contributions. How well that reflect reality is a question for those much wiser than myself. (Scott Latham 12:51, 24 May 2007 (CDT))
The Top Contributors list reflects reality since last May. The Major Contributors list is an estimate of what happened before submission counts were implemented on 2006-05-01 :) Ahasuerus 13:03, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
Yes, I'm aware Dissembler had a head start. ;-) I must figure out what counts as a "contribution" sometime - or is that documented somewhere already? BLongley 13:59, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
It's just your submission count. Erroneous submissions that you have to go back and correct later count too :) We didn't have a precise way of counting contributions prior to 2006-05-01, so the Major Contributors page is a rough estimate based on the estimated number of records that each contributor added/edited. Ahasuerus 14:07, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

The Long Afternoon of Earth

You verified TLNGFTN1962. I have a later printing and have a couple of questions about yours.

  1. My copy states First Printing, January 1962 / 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. Your record says just "1962" - Do the first printings only have the year and no month?
  2. Your record lists contents though without page numbers. My copy has chapters/sections numbered
    • Part 1 / I
      • II
      • III
      • ...
    • Part 2 / XI
      • XII
      • ...
    • part 3 XX
      • ...
      • XXVI
Does your copy have this? If so, I'll add a note that the Signet editions are a fix-up where the boundary from one of the original stories to the next can't be determined from the publications themselves. Marc Kupper (talk)
Right you are: it should be (and now is) January, 1962. Yes, my copy has the same chapters & sections as yours. This was one where I just accepted what someone else had already entered, on the assumption (no doubt erroneous) that they knew what they were talking about. I don't know the stories well enough to say whether they are virtually intact or whether the book is a substantial rewrite based on the stories enumerated. In retrospect, I might have been better served to just enter a new publication altogether, ignoring the work done by whomever. If you can improve the listing (frex., by copying your notes), please do so, ignoring the not-so-useful verification. (Scott Latham 16:26, 26 May 2007 (CDT))

Fleet of Stars

Can you confirm whether your hardcover Fleet of Stars has a leading 'The' or not? Only I've got a Locus magazine update on hold because some changes refer to verified pubs (among other things). BLongley 11:32, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

Confirm leading "The." Should have had it all along, and now does. (Scott Latham 13:20, 27 May 2007 (CDT))

IP blocked

Scott, there is a known (but poorly understood) problem with the blocking software which can result in innocent users getting blocked. If you recall the details, could you please post them here? Thanks! Ahasuerus 12:19, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

Now wish I'd printed out the blocking message. It's substance was that my IP address was shared by someone with a vaguely Asian handle, using 10.95.0.206. Next time (if there is one), I'll copy the whole thing and post it.(Scott Latham 12:25, 30 May 2007 (CDT))
BTW, that message gave me the impression that it is possible to send an email message to another user through the site: how does one do that? (Scott Latham 12:25, 30 May 2007 (CDT))
In newer versions of the Wiki software, there is a link displayed in the navbar on the left that allows you to e-mail any user who has provided his or her e-mail address at registration time. For example, you can e-mail me on Wikipedia using this link. However, I don't think that our (ancient) version of the Wiki software supports this capability. :( Ahasuerus 12:39, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

"Day is Done"?

You've verified PRTNFTRDD1955 as containing "Day is Done" by Lester_del_Rey. However, the canonical form in all other publication is The Day is Done, and http://contento.best.vwh.net/t28.htm#A621 also includes the article. Can you recheck and either merge the entries or make this a variant? Thanks, --JVjr 10:04, 2 Jun 2007 (CDT)

I rechecked and it's "Day is Done", on the table of contents, title page, running head, and copyright notice, so I made a variant, as you suggested. Thanks, Jan! (Scott Latham 20:12, 2 Jun 2007 (CDT))

I'm going to catch you

I'd add "Little Fishy" to the title, but I think our Red Dwarf Collections may not overlap. ;-) Confused? Yes, you will be. :-) BLongley 17:20, 18 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Actually that was unnecessarily confusing. Sorry! Here is the inspiration for that post:
Top ISFDB Verifiers (Against Primary Source)
Scott Latham 	1391
BLongley 	1290
I've managed to use the ISFDB download to find all the Verifications I have done, and therefore point out all the nervous edits I did when I started that are without verification. Which I am now rechecking, hence my verification push. And here's the Ace in the Hole when I get close... ;-)
Top ISFDB Verifiers (Against Primary Source)
BillLongley 	53
I don't actually MIND if I don't catch you, and I don't want to encourage misinformation. But I think I can chase you up to 1800 pubs or so before I get into "I don't want to admit THAT exists!" or "that's magazine stuff"... but I like to see good verifications, so how about a race to 1500/1600/1700 or so to set the level that all these people with BIG collections compared to me should aim for? BLongley 17:35, 19 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Actually, you probably will pass me soon - I'm into hospital for a bit of surgical fun tomorrow and may not feel up to pounding away for a while. And you're bound to, anyway, because I've got 85% of my library in now, including the anthologies that had been languishing in boxes. I'd been hoping to make first to 1,500, but we'll see...(Scott Latham 21:07, 19 Jun 2007 (CDT))
Good luck with the hospital fun! I had my vacuum tubes replaced last June -- it makes a world of difference! Ahasuerus 21:32, 19 Jun 2007 (CDT)
I second the "Good Luck with the hospital fun"! Make sure you take enough pubs with you to cover your recovery, if it's anything like the last hospital I was in the ward library will be 99% "Mills and Boon". :-/ (Actually, that reminds me where I should take my discard pile - well, the good stuff. The rubbish can still go for trade-in.) BLongley 15:25, 20 Jun 2007 (CDT)
My focus is coding and so the data entry and verification moves slowly for me. Marc Kupper (talk) 22:38, 19 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Well, the race can wait - I'm all for inspiring editors to do more, better, sooner, but not at the expense of health. BLongley 15:25, 20 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Harry Harrison's War with the Robots

Scott can you check this publication [2] to see if the price is $0.40 or $0.50 my Sept 1962 1st printing is $0.40. Thanks! :-)Kraang 18:30, 23 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Bester's Star Light, Star Bright

Was this pub of Bester's collection published by Berkley or Berkley/Putnam? Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:06, 24 Jun 2007 (CDT)

The Fantasy Worlds of Peter [S.] Beagle

Scott, can you verify that your copy of this pub is titled ...Peter S. Beagle or just ...Peter Beagle? I have the book club edition and the only "S." in the book is on the copyright page. Dustjacket, title page and running page header all say "Peter Beagle". Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:38, 25 Jun 2007 (CDT)

I just went ahead and created a variant title. There's a graphic of the Ballantine paperback on Amazon that includes the "S." in the title and author name. Mhhutchins 17:53, 25 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Wrong price symbol?

This pub matches the publication history in my later edition, but your Penguin edition is surely "£" rather than "$"? BLongley 17:05, 5 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Malzberg's In the Stone House

Scott, can you verify that Joyce Malzberg is given co-writer credit for "Major League Triceratops" in this collection? I verified the original publication (The Ultimate Dinosaur) where she's not credited, and want to know if I should create a variant for the reprint in the collection. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:36, 6 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Expedition to Earth by Clarke

You verified this pub as having 'Inheritance' by "Charles Willis" - should this be under Clarke's own name? While you're at it, can you please re-check if it's 'Exile of the Eons' or 'Nemesis'. BLongley 13:44, 10 Jul 2007 (CDT)

While doing some work on a story that is in this pub, I accidentally removed one of the page numbers for the "Expedition to Earth" short story. When you get a chance, could you please replace it. Thanks, CoachPaul 15:58, 18 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Catseye

I did some minor edits to your verified pub Catseye.

  • I added a cover image
  • I added the following pub-notes
    • The publication date and printing number are not stated and the publication contains no advertising or other material that states a printing date. The copyright page states “Copyright ©, 1961, by Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc. / An Ace Book by arrangement with Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc.” This ISFDB record was already dated 1962-00-00 though without a note on the source of this information.
    • The cover artist is not credited nor is a signature visible.
What Marc Kupper failed to do was sign the above note. ;-) But I think all the Moderators and active Editors recognise his style by now. No doubt he'll be back shortly to remind me what Wiki shortcut I could use to reinstate the "last post was by..." stuff... :-) BLongley 15:37, 18 Jul 2007 (CDT)

The Duplicated Man

Scott, could you please take a look at this discussion when you have a chance? Thanks! Ahasuerus 11:11, 24 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Images added to verified pubs

As a FYI - Dcarson has added images to your verified pubs that you want to check to make sure they match

Marc Kupper (talk) 00:26, 30 Jul 2007 (CDT)

And this one for Starfarers. Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:45, 9 Aug 2007 (CDT)
Sorry, trying to remember to notify people when I do, that, haven't gotten fully into the habit. If I see several possibilities I remember but when it the only one I still forget. Dana Carson 22:32, 9 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Kuttner/Moore's "No Boundaries"

I was verifying my Kuttners this week and I noticed that you credited Richard Powers for the cover art on No Boundaries. My copy is somewhat damaged, so I can't be sure, but I don't see his signature on the cover. Can you see it on yours or did you attribute it based on a secondary source? (Admittedly, it looks an awful lot like a Powers cover :-) Ahasuerus 13:01, 31 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Star Science Fiction Stories No. 3 by Pohl

I added to the note in this pub that you Verified, but did not change any other Metadata information due to information in the Second Printing. CoachPaul 09:22, 1 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Martin Time-Slip

Scott, I added the cover artist to this pub [3]. Is the signature on your copy clearer?Kraang 21:50, 9 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Pseudonym attribution for Ellison

In the Ellison collection From the Land of Fear that you verified (so hopefully you still own it) is We Mourn for Anyone actually credited to Ellis Hart or to Harlan Ellison? It was originally published as Mourners for Hire in the May 1957 issue of Fantastic as by Ellis Hart but it seems odd that Ellison would continue to use the pseudonym in a collection published under his name.--swfritter 12:08, 15 Aug 2007 (CDT)

New Writings in SF 10

Your pub looks good, just like mine in fact, but it's Joseph L. Green in mine on cover, contents and start-page. Can you double-check yours when you have a chance? Thanks. BLongley 17:50, 30 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Nine Hundred Grandmothers

Just a heads up that I have changed the cover art note for this Verified record to reflect the fact that the artists are actually credited on the back cover :) Ahasuerus 18:27, 3 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Gladiator-at-Law

I have also changed the spelling of Kornbluth's name from "Cyril M. Kornbluth" to "C. M. Kornbluth" based on the cover scan currently linked for the first Ballantine edition. Ahasuerus 22:59, 5 Sep 2007 (CDT)

The Silver Eggheads

I have made fairly significant changes to the first printing of The Silver Eggheads, which you verified in January 2007 -- please see the Notes field for the publication year change from 1961-00-00 to 1962-01-00. Thanks! Ahasuerus 22:35, 8 Sep 2007 (CDT)

To add to the confusion, I've just checked the first British printing and that gives the first US book publication as 1961. BLongley 05:30, 9 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Possibly relevant example: I think I have a first edition, but again the "January Next Year" publication versus Title date can cause confusion. It's not too bad - copyright date versus first publication date rarely differs by much, but knowing WHEN to update a title date that has no explanation is a bit confusing. BLongley 17:15, 9 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Unfortunately, there are cases when the copyright date and the publication date are off by years. Sometimes it's caused by delayed publication, but (as far as I can tell) in most of these "problem" cases the printed copyright year is the year when the copyright was renewed and is otherwise unrelated to the year of publication. Things have improved markedly in this area in the last few decades as copyright laws have become somewhat more regularized, but anything prior to at least the 1970s can be unpredictable.
In that example, I left 1977 for title as December 77 is quite believable as a first sighting. it may not be the one we WANT, but I don't know why it's there and don't mess with data I can't disprove.
On the issue of Renewed Copyright: I see that mentioned a lot for some authors (Heinlein and Dick for instance), is that date something we should be capturing? I'm not sure what the process entails so I'm not sure what value such data would have. It seems a good guideline for "go search Australian sites if you want to read it online", what does it mean to everyone else? BLongley 14:01, 10 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I usually record copyright information in the Notes field if the copyright year doesn't match the publication year or if it can be otherwise used when identifying the publication in question. The copyright year is not a major concern for us except when it helps determine when the book was published, but it's very important to Gutenberg/related folks since it determines which copyright law applies to the work in question. For example, in the US:
For any work published prior to 1978 (with proper copyright (©) notice), copyright lasted for an initial term of 28 years, renewable in the 28th year at first for an additional 28 years, then (with the 1976 Copyright Act but actually beginning in 1961 or 1962) for an additional 47 years, and finally (with the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998) for an additional 67 years. If a work published prior to 1964 was not formally renewed, it entered the public domain when the initial 28-year term expired. (For works published after 1963, renewal became automatic in 1992.) If the copyright was renewed, the term was thus 75 years from the year of publication (expiring on Dec. 31 of the 75th year following the initial publication) until the Sonny Bono act extended this to 95 years. ...
Thus, if a work was published in 1922 or earlier, it is now in the public domain. Works that were published between 1923 and 1963 have a 95-year term, provided the copyright was formally renewed in the 28th year. Works published between 1964 and 1977 have a flat 95-year term. Works by individual authors created (not merely published) after 1977 have a term of the author's life + 70 years. Works by corporate authors ("works made for hire") created after 1977 have a term of 95 years. ...
Ahasuerus 16:44, 12 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Yes, I already knew US copyright issues were weird - but the question was "is that date something we should be capturing?" BLongley 17:09, 12 Sep 2007 (CDT)
The problem is not so much that US copyright laws are weird (although some are), but rather that we have accumulated a lot of them over the last century. Trying to figure out which section of which law applies to any given situation and if/how it has been modified by subsequent laws can be a full time job :-\
As far as capturing the copyright date goes, I only do that when it can be conceivably used to date the publication. However, that's just me; perhaps other editors have other ideas? Ahasuerus 17:28, 12 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Having said that, I agree that the first printing of The Silver Eggheads most likely appeared in late 1961 and is only considered "January 1962" due to the bizarre conventions used by the publishing industry -- which we also follow, for better or for worse. The folks behind the first British reprint probably accidentally used the actual publication year (the same as the copyright year in this case) instead of "January 1962". We'll probably want to document all of this in the pub's Notes field.
Which reminds me that I haven't reread the book since the 1970s. Wonder how well it has withstood the test of time... Ahasuerus 00:48, 10 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I enjoyed it in the 90s, but then I have my methods for suspending my sense of disbelief when an old futuristic novel hasn't quite guessed the future the way it turned out to be. Given enough apple-based drinks with 5-6% Ethanol content I can quite happily ignore the existence of MS-Word on PCs and turn to Steam-Powered Word Processors instead. (I think it's "Wordmills" in this case though?) I'd chuck it on the "re-read" pile myself but that's already tottering. BLongley 14:01, 10 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Naturally, WSOD is crucial if you are to enjoy any old SF, but IIRC The Silver Eggheads was also full of in-jokes about 1950s SF, which may no longer be readily recognizable by 90+% of the (SF) reading public. Ahasuerus 16:44, 12 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Well, unless we feel like creating the equivalent of the "Annotated Pratchett Files", I think it's best to leave that project alone. Or "Add it to Notes", as the usual answer to anything controversial here seems to be... :-( BLongley 17:09, 12 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Story in Moderan

Your verified pub Moderan has this entry 2064, or Thereabouts • (1964) • shortstory by David R. Bunch and Darryl R. Groupe [as by Darryl R. Groupe ]. Should it just be by Bunch? The original short story by Bunch was written under the Groupe pseudonym. This is similar to the Ellison story I queried about earlier.--swfritter 07:52, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Forgot that I owned this one. It looks a little better now. Bunch no longer collaborates with his pseudonym.--swfritter 09:19, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Italo Calvino - t zero

I see that you have verified the Collier 1970 edition but did not enter any of the contents. Did you intend to go back to it? Also, in one of the other editions, the three section headings are noted as essays. In my copy, there is nothing following the first or the last entry and the middle one is quotes from other works. What should be the convention in this case?TFRANK 01:31, 16 Sep 2007 (CDT)

The Flying Sorcerers

Added a cover image for The Flying Sorcerers, please check. Dana Carson 22:30, 16 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Thieves World

Added cover art to Thieves World Please let me know if its the wrong cover. Dana Carson 23:35, 26 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Tales of Known Space: The Universe of Larry Niven

Just a heads up that I have approved the addition of cover art to you Tales of Known Space: The Universe of Larry Niven. Ahasuerus 22:49, 10 Oct 2007 (CDT)

A Scourge of Screamers Cover Image

Hi, Scott. Per ISFDB ettiquette I'm informing you that I uploaded a cover image for A Scourge of Screamers which you had verified. I confirmed all of the information in your verified copy against my in hand copy before scanning and uploading the image. Thanks! Dgeiser13 11:15, 21 Oct 2007 (CDT)

The Watch

Scott, could you please check if The Watch is subtitled "being the unauthorized sequel to Peter A. Kropotkin's Memoirs of a revolutionist--as imparted to Dennis Danvers by Anchee Mahur, traveler from a distant future, or, A science fiction novel"? TIA! Ahasuerus 02:46, 28 Oct 2007 (CDT)

The Man With Nine Lives / A Touch of Infinity

I'm confused by this pub - why no page number for "Assassin!"? Is it in there? Contento says it is but I'm no longer sure... oh, and please check whether I've added the right covers. BLongley 14:07, 28 Oct 2007 (CDT)

A Lamp for Medusa / The Players of Hell

Correct cover? BLongley 15:12, 3 Nov 2007 (CDT)

And here? BLongley 11:59, 15 Dec 2007 (CST)

And here? (Sorry about the British over-pricing sticker.) BLongley 13:15, 15 Dec 2007 (CST)

And here? BLongley 16:03, 24 Dec 2007 (CST)

Sturgeon in Orbit/A Touch of Strange

Have added page numbers and some notes.--swfritter 19:33, 28 Nov 2007 (CST)

Best SF: 1971

Can you please check your verified pub to see if the story is Gantlet or Gauntlet? BLongley 11:47, 20 Dec 2007 (CST)

Ring of Fire

  • I just changed S. J. Viehl to S. L. Viehl in your verified pub Ring of Fire. S. J. had only one entry and when I checked the toc on the Baen website it has S. L. . Can you double check if the actual story has S. J.? Dana Carson 05:45, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Rogue Dragon

I have updated the publication notes for your verified publication to add the following:

  • The title page, copyright, and spine list the title as Rogue Dragon. The front cover includes either a sub-title or byline of The day the dragons turned.
  • The printing date is not stated in this publication and so the date for this ISFDB record was derived from the publication's copyright date.
  • The publication states "First Book Publication" at the bottom of the front cover.
  • The cover artist is not credited but is signed "JG" which is assumed to be Jack Gaughan.

Marc Kupper (talk) 18:44, 19 Jan 2008 (CST)

World of Ptavvs

I have added a cover image for your verified publication plus added publication comments. Marc Kupper (talk) 01:11, 21 Jan 2008 (CST)

Fun with Your New Head

I've updated the printing date for your verified publication. Please see the publication and its Bibliographic Comments for more details. Marc Kupper (talk) 14:25, 9 Feb 2008 (CST)

Verified Pub 3 in 1

Have modified the edition to credit Emsh rather than Ed Emshwiller - the credit is about 3/4 down on the right side of the back cover. If the pub was pre-existing in the database the initial artist data was probably entered from a secondary source.--swfritter 18:18, 18 Feb 2008 (CST)

Also changed title to "Three in One" as it is on the title page.--swfritter 19:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Sirius

I updated your verified publication of [Sirius] to include a cover image and the following notes:

These notes added after verification from another copy:
Front cover image added.
"First published by Secker & Warburg 1944"
"Published in Penguis Books 1964"
"Reprinted 1972, 1973"
"Made and printed in Great Britain"
Pricing unknown - has a sticker for C$1.95.

If this does not match your copy, please let me know and I will remove the changes and create a new publication. -- Holmesd 22:30, 5 Mar 2008 (CST)

Jerry Pournelle: High Justice

Was publication you verified [here] printed in Canada, with [this] cover? --Holmesd 21:48, 6 Mar 2008 (CST)

The Dying Earth

Please look at ISFDB:Community Portal#The Dying Earth if you have a chance. I want to change this work from a Novel to a Collection, and you verified one of it's pubs. -DES Talk 15:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Your verified pub, Four for the Future (1962)

A couple of questions on your verified pub, Four for the Future (1962):

  1. My copy has "4 for the Future" on title page & front cover. Does yours really have "Four" spelled out?
  2. Your pub listing shows "The Children's Hour" as by Lawrence O'Donnell. My copy shows it as by Henry Kuttner. Can you please check this?

Thanks -- Dave (davecat) 22:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Great Stories of Space Travel

I added a price and a Transient Verification to your Verified Pub.CoachPaul 02:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding cover credit to verified book

I would like to add cover credit (or at least mention my educated guess in the notes field)for your verified edition of POWER by Laurence M. Janifer. To my eye it is definitely John Berkey.Don Erikson 21:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Unicorn Mountain

Just an FYI that I have changed the spelling of the cover artist's first name from "Byrn" to "Bryn" in your verified Unicorn Mountain publication as per the dust jacket of my copy. I also added the following Note to the record:

First printing as per the number line. Publication month from the Locus Index. Publication date (1988-06-16) apparently from the verifier's personal records.

Thanks! Ahasuerus 20:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Michael Conner

Can you please check your verified pub (Archangel by Michael Conner) to see if is Mike or Michael? A cover scan at fantasticfiction show Mike.

Doomsday Wing

Scott another editor has added the price to your verified pub[4]. Thanks! Kraang 01:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

The Lemon-Green Spaghetti-Loud Dynamite-Dribble Day

In my UK version of The Square Root of Man it has the leading "The" - but the book seems so close to your verified version that I suspect it might be worth another look? BLongley 20:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

(BTW, this is probably the weirdest title I've ever questioned here!) BLongley 20:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Preferred Risk by McCann

User:Bluesman changed your verified pub from TP to HC, and added an LCCN and a note. I approved this, did some online research confirming the HC, and added some further notes. If you actually have an 1955 TP edition, this should be recorded. -DES Talk 18:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

The Year's Best S-F: 5th Annual Edition

Can you please check your verified pub and see if "Multum in Parvo" appears on page 87? BLongley 14:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I have a copy. And the story by Jack Sharkey does appear on page 87. It first appeared in Gent.--swfritter 15:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
In December 1959, apparently. And there's a sequel of sorts, it seems... Thanks for the response, I don't hold my breath waiting for Scott. (What did we do to him to make him stop talking?) BLongley 18:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Your Verified Pub - Budrys' Inferno

Could you please check the following on your copy? The story "And Then She Found Him ..." is listed as only "And Then She Found Him" on the Table of Contents, but has the ellipsis on page 37. Thanks - I went ahead and put this as a note in the bibliographical comments. Please just let me know if its different, or update the note. kpulliam 02:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Scott hasn't responded to his talk page in some time now, so I'll do the honors. When entering contents in collections and anthologies, you should enter from the title page of each story/essay. So the title record of the story should show what's on the first page on which the story begins, not what's listed in the table of contents. If there's an obvious error, you should make a note of the discrepancy in the notes field of the pub record (not the title record). In this case, the notes field of the pub should state that the table of contents titled the story without the ellipis. MHHutchins 03:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I noticed that his last post was 'going for surgery' and that's never a good sign on a dormant account. I put the note in the Bibliographical Comments (not the notes) since its a minor item, and I would think that before changing a verified pub, folks would check out anything there. To the casual users, it's probably irrelevant and beneath their notice. If You think that I should put it on the pub notes so everyone sees it, let me know. kpulliam 03:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Change to verified pub: The Amsirs and the Iron Thorn

User:Bluesman has changed that catalog number from "#D1852" to "#d1852". User:Swfritter confirmed the case change, but mentioned that his copy has "231-01852-050" on the spine, which i am going to mention in a note. -DES Talk 16:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC) The results of these changes are here. -DES Talk 16:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Verified pub - The Peace War, Vernor Vinge

Hi, RE your verified copy of The Peace War, I ran across the same edition with the mismatched jacket and title page ISBN's. I noticed that in addition to the jacket artist Tom Kidd, whom you ID'd, this copy names the jacket and book designers as well. The jacket designer Gregory K. Wilkin is shown on the back flap. The book designer Richard Oriolo is shown on the title page. Would it be appropriate to add these names to the record, and if so how would they be added? I'm guessing they could either go in additional "Artist" fields, or in the Notes. However I'm obviously way out of my depth here. Should I make this change, or not bother? Big Al Mintaka 04:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

We often record such names in the notes field. Such names are not normaly recorded in the Artist field. -DES Talk 14:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

We can see you're active....

... and I for one am glad of that. You have left us with your final comments about your health though, and my saying "He aten't dead yet!" would be rather better coming from yourself. Even if it's just a "bugger off, I'm still too sick to talk" comment or "stop messing with my talk-page!" or such, we do actually care about you. BLongley 23:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Verification request

Could you please check this discussion when you get a chance? Thanks! Ahasuerus 23:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Seasons in Flight

Welcome back Scott. I approved the pub-delete of the duplicate pub but also see that you verified SSNSNFLGHC1986 as by Brian Aldiss but it's filed under the title record for Brian W. Aldiss. Do you know about the unmerge-title, merge title stuff we do to shut publications over to the correct title record? Marc Kupper (talk) 06:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

The Best of Henry Kuttner

I have verified my copy with your verification and have added image, individual stories and page number and notes. This [5] . If you find this in error please say so. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

QUARK/ #1 update

Hello, Scott! Have an update on a Verification you did for QUARK/#1. After looking at the cover noticed a "signature" on the back cover on the lower left that matches the "icon/rune/??" (what do you call this style of signing?) of each of the "Twelve Ancillary Animations...." from the book by Russell Fitzpatrick. Was just going to add that datum to the record but thought I'd give you a head's up first. Also note that the drawings' section title says "... Animations ..." not "... Approximations ..." as the contents now states. Cheers!--Bluesman 23:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

MAINE: HE OWNED THE WORLD

Added "pb" to the record, surely only an oversight.--Bluesman 00:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

This Fortress World

Greetings! Just got a fine copy of this ACE double, 13THFRTRS1957 , and think I may have found an artist's signature on this cover (couldn't find anything on the Silverberg side). Beside the masked face's right ear there appears to be EMSH (have to turn the book sideways to see it). Just wanted to see if you agreed before editing the pub. --Bluesman 22:05, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Added artist EMSH to the pub record.--Bluesman 04:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Hell-Bound Train: The or That

Please take a look at ISFDB:Verification requests#"That Hell-Bound Train" when you have a chance. You verified Pleasant Dreams and The Best of Robert Bloch, two of the titles that included the story in quewstion. TYour input would be helpful. Thank you. -DES Talk 17:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Age of the Pussyfoot

Scott! Was about to do a transient verification on AGEOPFT1969B and thought I would check for an artist and found a signature on the front cover just beside the "mechanism" on the right side of the front cover, printed sideways. Can make out "Foster" but not the initial. Did not edit the pub record; thought maybe you might know who this is?--Bluesman 23:36, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Drunkard's Walk

Doing a Transient verification on DRKSWLK1960 and saw your note about the artist. PUSPURICA is also quite visible on the cover about 1/3 up right side, vertical. Didn't add that to the record.--Bluesman 16:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Homegoing

Added $C price to BKTG13547 .--Bluesman 17:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Preferred Risk

Was about to do a Transient Verification of PRFFRD1955 and in double-checking the entered data I found that the list LCCN is not what is in the book (I have a 1st/1st). The number should be 55-10044, but the number in the entry has an extra "0" in front of the "10044". Since you researched this through other sources, thought I would put it past you before editing the pub.--Bluesman 00:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

On directions from another moderator, have gone ahead and adjusted the LCCN #.--Bluesman 14:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Rogue Star

Was about to do a Transient Verification on RGUESTR1969 and have a discrepancy between the verified pub record and the book-in-hand. I have a 1st printing (US edition) and the cover is credited to Paul Lehr on the copyright page. Not sure if maybe your copy is a Canadian edition and has different artwork? My cover has a tiny naked female facing an obviously alien structure, sort of an ellipse shape with 'fins' and two 'tentacles' from the sides. The surrounding colors are brown tones, guess it's meant to be in some sort of cave?--Bluesman 01:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Terror

Added C$ price to TERROR1986. Also found an artist's signature on the bottom right corner (very faint but readable under BRIGHT light and a magnifying glass) and added that as well.--Bluesman 17:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Wonder Effect

Added month of publication to MLO2139 . This datum was obtained from the copyright page of the second printing, and a note was added to that effect. --Bluesman 22:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

O Pioneer!

Added $C price to OPIONR1998 --Bluesman 13:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Adding to verified

I added to the notes to your verified THE LAST TRANSACTION by Barry N. Malzberg that the cover artist credit on the copyright page is misspelled as Wilotsky when it should be Walotsky. And it was a 1st printingDon Erikson 17:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Central Passage

Just did a Transient Verification of CNTRLPSSGS1964 and added Krause as artist (credited on back cover, lower left corner). --Bluesman 04:40, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Stepsons of Terra

Added cover artist to STPSNSFT1958 : EMSH is visible about 1' below the robot's left elbow.--Bluesman 22:29, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Jaguar Hunter

Added $C price to TJGRHN1989 --Bluesman 22:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Third from the Sun

FYI, I have changed Matheson's "Lover, When You're Near Me" to Lover When You're Near Me [no comma] in your verified second printing of Third from the Sun based on the data in my third printing. I have confirmed that the version with the comma exists in at least one publication, so I set up a variant title for it and posted a verification request for the other 4 pubs. Ahasuerus 02:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The Continent Makers and Other Tales of The Viagens

This. [6] . In verifying my copy I found the matching cover image and added it. If yours does not match please tell me. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 16:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Moonferns

Added several international prices to MNFNS1971 --Bluesman 20:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

The Face of the Waters

Please see ISFDB:Moderator noticeboard#Doubly Verified pubs Marc Kupper (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Silent Invaders

Added EMSH as the artist for TSLNTNVDRS1958 . Clearly visible about 1" up and 1/2" in from the bottom left corner. --Bluesman 13:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Added the cover attribution to Whom the Gods Would Slay and made the Title record into a variant title for Paul W. Fairman. Ahasuerus 02:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

The 13th Immortal / This Fortress World

Added the following note to this publication: "This Fortress World is 190 pages and The 13th Immortal is 129 pages. The cover of This Fortress World says "abridged". Cover art not credited.". Ahasuerus 03:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Plague From Space

This. [7] . I added the cover image which matches my copy and your verification. If yours does not please msg me. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Beyond Earth's Gate / Daybreak-2250 A.D.

This. [8] . I checked my copy against your verification and made a submission of the cover image and notes to clarify the actual pagination for each story and some cover comments. I also added C.L. Moore to the author feel as she is credited on the tttle page ob Beyond Earth's Gate. Sorry for the brusque manner and my deliquence in writing a note. Please msg me if you do not concur. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Stars are the Styx

Added page numbers to the contents of STST1979.--Bluesman 23:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Swords & Sorcery

I've requested an edit to the title of this publication which you've verified. The title on the title page reads: Swords and Sorcery with a subtitle of Stories of Heroic Fantasy. --Gloinson 04:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

His Majesty's Dragon

This. [9] . After deletions and submission of new interior art crediting is my perception of the contents of this book. Please give it some perusal as it differs from yours. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Triumph-cover & additional notes

This. [10] . I verified my copy against yours. I submitted the cover image, start page, changed publisher to Crest Books / Fawcett World Library, and added notes that were provided on the copyright page. Please msg if this offends. After acceptance I plan to submit notes from Tuck also. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:11, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The Excalibur Alternative-added notes

This. [11] . I submitted notes from my copy, which I verified against your verification. If there are any problems please msg me. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 16:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

A Working of Stars-notes added

This. [12] . Apologies I verified my copy to yours and added notes and start page number. Please msg if bothered. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 00:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

The Peshawar Lancers-additional info

This. [13] . I added a cover image, additional notes and the start page number. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

The Chronoliths-changed price & added notes

This. [14] . I verified my copy against yours and found the price was $23.95. I added notes, cover image, and start page number. If problems with this, msg me. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Darwin's Children--added notes/Canadian pricing

This. [15] . I verified my copy against your verification and added notes, Canadian pricing and start page number. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 16:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Storm over Warlock-andded cover/notes

This. [16] . Added cover image and Tuck notes to your verification. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:06, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

White Mars-cover/notes

This. [17] . I added a cover image, additional notes and the start page number. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 17:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Rama II- added cover image/notes

This. [18]. I added the cover image and notes. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 16:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The Boy Who Would Live Forever-additions/deletion

This. [19] . In checking my copy against your verification I found the author credited twice. I deleted that and added notes, Author's Note, and start page numbers. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:06, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Foundation and Chaos-added notes/cover image

This. [20] . I added notes and cover image after verifying my copy to your verification. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

The Starchild Trilogy=added cover image/notes

This. [21] . Added cover image and notes. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 23:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Beyond Human Ken

Changed the title on your verified pub BNDHMNKNXP1954 to "Selections From Beyond Human Ken" to match the title page. This edition collects 12 of the 21 stories from the Random House hc edition. Also added the artist (Bergen) whose signature is on the cover. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

The Duke of Uranium

I approved an update by Bluesman to update your verified The Duke of Uranium to add the Canadian price to the notes. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Finity

I approved an update by Bluesman to your verified Finity to add the notes "Stated first PB edition; full number line. / $8.99 in Canada." --Marc Kupper|talk 23:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Childhood's End

I approved a verified Childhood's End update by Bluesman to add to add note about Powers signature. --Marc Kupper|talk 19:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Earthlight

I approved a verified Earthlight update by Bluesman to add the cover artist and a note about the signature. You already had a note about Powers being credited in "The Art of Richard Powers". --Marc Kupper|talk 20:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Expedition to Earth

I approved a verified Expedition to Earth update by Bluesman to add to the notes

Powers' signature is on the cover (this statement comes with a caveat:I (Bluesman) have three copies of this book. The signature is visible on two of them (running vertically on the very bottom right edge). On the third, the artwork is shifted to the right by less than 1/8" and the signature is cut off.)
LCCCN: 53-12766

--Marc Kupper|talk 20:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Reach for Tomorrow

Approved update to verified Reach for Tomorrow to add "The cover is also signed by Powers in the bottom left corner. LCCCN: 56-8164" to the notes. --Marc Kupper|talk 01:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Love Ain't Nothing But Sex Misspelled

Always loved that title! Added a note to LANTBSXM1976, mostly about Currey's notes on what was dropped/added, and about the artist credits. ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The Man With Nine Lives/A Touch of Infinity

Found EMSH on the cover of "Nine Lives" from TCHFNFNTYCE1959, added that and some notes separating the two pubs by length. I also removed "Assassin!" from the contents. It just isn't there!? ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

From the Land of Fear

Changed a story title in FRMTHLNDFF1973 to add "......" (We Mourn....). Also added a note about the artist. ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

A Scourge of Screamers

Added LEHR as the artist for SCRGSCRM1968. His name is on both covers. Also some notes about printing & Currey's indication of a reprint of a UK edition. ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Spacehawk, Inc.

Added Gaughan's interior art to the contents of SPCHWKNCQG1974 and notes. --Bluesman 18:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

A Whiff of Madness

Added the interior art (also by Kirby) to the contents of WHFFFMDNSS361976 and a note. --Bluesman 19:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

The Heaven Makers

Added a couple of notes to THHVNMKRSP1968 re: 1st printing; artist credit. --Bluesman 19:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Bypass to Otherness

Found a signature (Blanchard) on the cover of BPSSTTHR1961, added it with a note.--Bluesman 20:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Earth's Last Citadel

Added Gaughan's interior art piece to the contents of ELSTCT1964 and notes. --Bluesman 20:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Day Million

Added notes to DYMLLN1970 re: printing, artist and altered two stories, one for a slight title difference and one for author credit. ~Bill, --Bluesman 14:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Syzygy

Changed the artist on SYZYGY1982 to unknown as David Perry did the interior illustrations and there are the initials L.F. on the cover. ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Rogue Star [2]

Changed the artist for RGUESTR1969 from Jacques Wyrs to Paul Lehr, as he is credited on the copyright page (no signature on the cover). --Bluesman 04:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Added info for Piserchia's SPACELING

I added that this printing also appeared with a Canadian price sticker over US price. Also add interior art credit.Don Erikson 18:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Danger From Vega/Clash of Star-Kinegs-add cover

This. [22] . Added cover image and tuck ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

The Long Result-added notation

I added notation to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The Case Against Tomorrow

I added the date to your verified 1st printing of Pohl's The Case Against Tomorrow from the 2nd printing.Don Erikson 19:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Aliens™: Alien Harvest-changed title/notation

This. [23]. I changed the title to read as on the title page and added notation. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:44, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Cover to you verifieb pub The Other Side of Time

I added a cover scan to this book. OK? Tpi 16:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Tigana-added cover/notation

This. [24]. Added cover image and notation to your ver, which matches my copy. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 00:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

B.E.A.S.T.---cover image

Submitted cover to this. [25]. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Before the Universe-- added cover image

This. [26]. I added the cover image as per my copy and your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The Gold at the Starbow's End

Hi. Added a cover image to MLO233. --MartyD 02:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Approved since Scott isn't around. Ahasuerus 02:33, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The Reefs of Space

I added a cover to your verified pub which matches my copy of the same edition. RFSOSPC1964 Kevin 04:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The Starchild Trilogy

I updated your verified pub THSTRCHLDT1986 with almost exact cover art, and I added the three novels contained in the omnibus edition as contents. Kevin 02:43, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Mars Plus

I updated your verified pub BKTG13559 with cover art and additonal notes to match my copy of the same edition. Kevin 04:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

The Visitors

Added some notes and a cover image to your verified THVSTRSBLS1980 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 01:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Mining the Oort

I added cover art and a few minor notes to your verified pub MNNGTRT1992 - Thanks Kevin 18:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Works by S. M. Stirling

I updated your verified pub DSTHFR2004 with a few notes, and corrected the cover artist from Joanathan Barkat to Jonathan Barkat, to match my copy in hand of the same printing. - Thanks - Kevin 03:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I made similar notes changes to MTNGTCRVLL2006 as well as removing the questionable day of the month from the Pub and the Title. - Thanks Kevin 03:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I made similar notes changes to CNQSTDR2003 as well as updating the title date to Feb. - Thanks Kevin 03:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Alternate Generals

I made substantial changes to the editor credits of this verified pub LTRNNRLS1998 based on my copy in hand of the same first printing. - Thanks Kevin 20:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Two Tales and Eight Tomorrows

Added a cover image to your verified MLO469 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 01:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Cover Image for your verified "Masters of the Maze"

I Uploaded a cover image for the 1965 edition of Davidson's book. regards - --Dsorgen 02:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Heroes and Horrors

I added a cover image to your verified pub HRSNFHRRS1978. Thanks. --Rtrace 13:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Rime Isle

I added a cover image to your verified pub RMSLTNLCVC1977. I also added the roman numbered pages to the page count.

I also wanted to ask if you thought this would more properly be classified as a collection. I know there is a note on the copyright page stating that the two previously published stories are considered parts of the same novel. However, I believe they are almost always published as separate stories. As a collection we could specify that the book also contains "The Frost Monstreme". Do you agree?--Rtrace 00:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Hero's Walk -- cover image

Added a cover image to your verified HEROSWALK1954 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 00:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Destination: Void -- cover image

I added this image to your verified DSTNTNVDTN1966 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 21:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Two Sought Adventure

I added a cover image to your verified pub TWSGTAD1957. Thanks. --Rtrace 06:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Down in the Black Gang

I added some notes to this verified pub. Willem H. 15:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Anansi Boys

I changed the cover image to your verified pub NNSBSNRKCQ2005. My copy (of the same edition and printing) doesn't have the black boxes around the name and title. Thanks. --Rtrace 03:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Dimension of Miracles -- cover image

I added this image to your verified DMNSNM1968 that matches my copy of the same 1st printing. --MartyD 01:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

All The Traps of Earth -- cover image

I added this image to your verified LLTHSTRS221963 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 01:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Women of Wonder -- cover image

I added this image to your verified WMNFWNDR1975 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 20:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

The Universe Against Her - #F-314

Added Interior Artwork credit and signature location notes to your verified pub THNVSTHR621964 Kevin 23:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Darker Than You Think -- cover image

I added this image to your verified DRKRTHNTHN1963 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 11:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

The Time Axis -- cover image

I added this image to your verified TMXS1965 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 19:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

The Fallible Fiend---changed printing month/added notation

Morning. This. [27]. I changed the printing month and added notation as my copy matched your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

The Businessman: A Tale of Terror

I added a cover image to your verified pub BKTG01894. Thanks. --Rtrace 00:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Slave Planet -- cover image and note

I added this image and a note about the stated 1st printing to your verified SLVPLNT1963, based on my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 00:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Digits and Dastards -- cover image

I added this image to your verified MLO2027 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 01:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Twisted Men / One of Our Asteroids is Missing -- cover image

I replaced a broken cover image link with this on your verified TTWSTDMN1964, matching my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 15:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

The Years Best S-F: 5th Annual

Could you please check you verified pub THTHNNLFTH1961 to see if the first printing titled the last essay by Merril as 'Summary' or 'Summation'. In my First printing of the First (unlabeled) annual best of S-F - It shows as 'Summation' just as in your first printing of the 5th Annual. In my Second printing of the fifth Annual however it is called 'Summary and Honorable Mentions'. So somewhere in there the 'expected' title of the closing essay changed. - Thanks Kevin 03:02, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

10th Annual Edition The Year's Best S-F

I added a cover image, and artist credit to your verified pub THNNLDTNTH1965. Thanks. --Rtrace 05:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Tunnel Through the Deeps--- added cover/notation

Afternoon. This. [28]. I added a cover image and notation as my copy matches your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 19:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Glory Road

I added a cover image to your verified pub GLRYRD1964. Thanks. --Rtrace 04:38, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Necromancer

I added a cover image to your verified pub NCRMNCRVPL1978. Thanks. --Rtrace 12:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Tarzan and the Valley of Gold

I added a cover image to your verified pub TRZNVG1966. Thanks. --Rtrace 05:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

The Marching Morons

I added a cover image to your verified pub MRCHNGMRN1959. Thanks. ---Rtrace 01:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The Infinity Box--- added cover/notaion

Afernoon. This. [29] . I added a cover image and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 19:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Zod Wallop

I added a cover image to your verified pub BKTGA1069. Thanks. --Rtrace 21:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Titan

I added a cover image to your verified pub TTNZCKSCWR1980. Thanks. --Rtrace 05:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Weird Heroes 8

In this verified pub the story Savage Shadow is attributed to Walter B. Gibson. I think this is wrong, and it should be Philip José Farmer. The story is reprinted in the collection Pearls from Peoria, Locus1 agrees, Both Farmer websites The International Bibliography and The Official Farmer Home Page list the story as by Farmer. I will submit a copy of this note on the moderator noticeboard, and ask if it's ok to change this. Greetings Willem H. 18:44, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

The Avon Fantasy Reader

I added a cover image to your verified pub TAVONFR1969. Thanks. --Rtrace 22:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

World's Best Science Fiction: 1971

I added a cover image to your verified pub WBSF1971. Thanks. --Rtrace 23:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

World's Best Science Fiction: 1967

I added a cover image and interior art credit to your verified pub WBSF1967. Thanks. --Rtrace 00:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

World’s Best Science Fiction: 1965

I added a cover image and interior art credit to your verified pub WBSF1965. Thanks. --Rtrace 00:06, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Galaxies

I added a cover image to your verified pub GLXSHBTQWJ1975. Thanks. --Rtrace 03:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Worlds of the Imperium / Seven from the Stars (Ace Double F-127)

I replaced a broken cover image for your verified pub WOTISFS1962. Thanks. --Rtrace 03:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Master of Life and Death / The Secret Visitors (Ace Double D-237)

I replaced a broken cover image for your verified pub MLDSCRTV1957. Thanks. --Rtrace 04:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

The Continent Makers and Other Tales of the Viagens

I replaced a broken cover image for your verified pub THCNTNNTMK1971. Thanks. --Rtrace 02:12, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Swords and Sorcery

I added a cover image to your verified pub SWRDSSR1963. Thanks. --Rtrace 02:23, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

The Three Stigmata -- added cover image

I added this image to your verified THRSOPE1966. --MartyD 00:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

You're All Alone- added interior art/ notation

Morning Scott! This. [30] . I added interior art credit and notation. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 11:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

The Hemingway Hoax

I added a cover image to your verified pub THHMNGWHXZ1990. Thanks. --Rtrace 03:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The 10th Victim

I changed the price of your verified Ballantine edition of Sheckley's THE 10TH VICTIM from $0.50 to $0.60 as per cover. Don Erikson 17:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Added artist credit and price.

I added the cover artist from signature and the price of your verified THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF ROBERT SHECKLEY. Don Erikson 18:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

More Adventures on Other Planets

I added a cover image to your verified pub MRADVOOPN1963. Thanks. --Rtrace 04:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The Defiant Agents

I linked an existing cover image to your verified pub DFNTGNTS1963. Thanks. --Rtrace 05:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

The Shockwave Rider---replaced cover link/added notation

Morning! This. [31] . I replaced the cover image link and added notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Capricorn Games Collection

I added a cover image for your verified 1976 HC edition. Regards... --Dsorgen 03:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

ACC - Cradle

I added a cover scan to this verified pub CRDLGZSWGL1988. -- Phileas 09:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Added date to verified

I added the month of date to your verifier 1st Berkley Medallion printing of Simak's STRANGERS IN THE UNIVERSE from the 4th & 5th printings.Don Erikson 19:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Added date to verified

I added month of date to your verified 1st Macfadden printing of Simak's WAY STATION from 2nd printing.Don Erikson 14:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Heaven's Reach

I corrected the page count, added the contents and a few additional notes to this verified pub to match my copy. I hope someone will approve the edit, and if you visit again, please take a look to see if you agree. The book contains an additional short story that almost everyone has missed (the same as with Brin's Earth), an afterword and more. Thanks Willem H. 17:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Anathem

I updated your verified pub 258260, adding roman pages to the page count, the note to the reader essay, and various notes. -DES Talk 23:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Added the LCCN. --Willem H. 13:55, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Slave Ship - added notation

Afternoon! This. [32] . I added notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The Fallible Fiend

I added a cover image to your verified pub AFALLFD1973. Thanks. --Rtrace 00:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The Glory That Was

I added the contents (Introduction by Robert Heinlein) to your verified pub. Thanks Willem H. 16:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Bodyguard and four Other, etch added cover/notation

Morning! This. [33] . I added a cover image and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Collision Course / The Nemesis from Terra (F-123) -- added notes

I added some notes to your verified CCTNFTRR1961 based on my copy, at the request of Bluesman. --MartyD 12:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Mindswap

I added a cover image to your verified pub MNDSWP1967. Thanks. --Rtrace 12:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Victim Prime

I added a cover image to your verified pub BKTG15942. Thanks. --Rtrace 03:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The Dark Design

I added the foreword and a note (LOCC#) to this verified pub. Thanks Willem H. 20:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Journals of the Plague Years

I added a note with the OCLC record #, and a contents item for the afterword, to your verified pub. -DES Talk 13:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Weird Heroes 3 & 7

I added the contents (introduction, interior art) to Quest of the Gypsy and Eye of the Vulture. Thanks Willem H. 18:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

City at World's End

I added a link for the cover and some notes to this verified pub, so I could delete a duplicate entry. Thanks Willem H. 08:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

My Best Science Fiction Story - added cover/notation/corrected titles

Afternoon!. This. [34]. I added a cover image and notation. I also corrected several titles to that used on the story or essay title pages. For any moderator, I believe all the "Why I Selected" should be using a colon and then the title. The printing is always of different fornt size and the first section is above the story title on the the essay title page. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:11, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Someone Like You

I added price information and a note to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks Willem H. 09:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Dayworld Breakup

Corrected the pagenumbers for this verified pub Thanks Willem H. 19:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Mindswap - cover image add

Morning! This [35]. I added a cover image to replace a bad one, matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

The Jesus Incident--- cover image/notation

Morning! This. [36]. I added a cover image and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Re-Birth

I added an OCLC number to the notes of Your verified pub of Re-Birth. -DES Talk 15:29, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

The Third Galaxy Reader--- added notation

Afternoon! This. [37]. I added notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry.

Wall Around a Star - added notation

Afternoon! This. [38]. I added notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:43, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Added cover credit

I added cover credit for verified [39] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank.Don Erikson 18:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Retief Unbound - added cover/notation

Afternoon! This. [40]. I added a cover image and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Added cover credit

I added cover credit for verified [41] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 17:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Titan - added notation/art credits in contents

Afternoon! This. [42]. I added notation and artist crediting after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:09, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Added cover artist

I added cover credit for verified [43] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 22:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Added cover artist

I added cover credit for verified [44] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 20:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Added cover credit again

I added cover credit for verified [45] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 21:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Note about Powers cover art

I left a not about your verified [46] that even though it is cited that this was not done by Powers, I added that the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank claims it is.Don Erikson 15:47, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Enigma From Tantalus / The Repairmen of Cyclops

We seem to have verified this to death now. I'd like to see both covers at once rather than show one and link to the other, so I've uploaded this. Would you mind if I replaced the current image with that one? BLongley 18:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Added cover artist

I added cover credit for verified [47] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 18:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Added artist credit

I added cover credit for verified [48] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 19:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Added artist credit

I added cover credit for verified [49] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 20:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Added artist credit

I added cover credit for verified [50] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 20:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Wizard - added cover/notation/artist crediting

Morning! This. [51]. I added a cover image, [52], notation and contents crediting for the fep art. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

The Land of Unreason

I added a cover image to your verified pub LOUNRS1970. I also expanded the title of the Carter introduction to include the subtitle. Thanks. --Rtrace 04:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Added artist credit

I added cover credit for verified [53] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 06:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Gutter code question

You verified this[54] as having a gutter code of "44L" which would make it 1970 or 1981. My copy has a code of "44R" which would match the date. Is this a typo or ??? Could you check please?Don Erikson 05:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Under the Influence

I changed the price of this pub from $0.50 to $0.35, to match my copy (the coverscan has $0.35 too). When you return to the ISFDB, can you check your copy? If it's really $0.50, it must be a later printing. Thanks, Willem H. 14:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

On an Odd Note

I deleted the Waldo Kellar stories from this verified pub, and replaced them by the Gerald Kersh stories, as Waldo Kellar is not mentioned in the book. Also added some notes, Thanks Willem H. 15:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Also added notes (LCCN) to The Secret Masters. Thanks Willem H. 18:56, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

"A Complete Father"

Could you please double check if Bunch's story here http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?MODERAN131971 is actually listed as "The Complete Father". It should either be a variant of this http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?80874 or merged. Thanks Jonschaper 02:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I've got the same pub, and the titles should be merged as "The Complete Father". I'll do the submission and do a second Primary Verification on the pub. Thanks. MHHutchins 03:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Nightshade

I changed the title of this verified pub from "Nightshade" to "Nightshade Book One: Terror, Inc." to follow the books titlepage. Also added the contents (essays and interior art) and added some notes. Thanks, Willem H. 14:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Also added this coverscan. Thanks, Willem H. 21:13, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Light a Last Candle

I added the cover artist and some notes to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Robert Bloch's Philtre Tip

I believe that "Philitre Tip" here http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?560097 is a typo and should be merged with this http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?65052 Could you please check? Thanks Jonschaper 00:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

A World of Difference

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 19:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Blood and Burning

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Walking the Labyrinth

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

The Little People

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 21:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Candy Man

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:26, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Added date & note

I added the month to the date of your verified [55] from the 2nd printing & noted it.Don Erikson 20:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Elsewhere, Elsewhen, Elsehow

I added some notes (missing stories, LCCN) to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 09:33, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Added cover credit & note

I added cover credit from signature & noted number line to your verified [56] .Don Erikson 19:59, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I Will Fear No Evil

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 08:17, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

No Boundaries and Return to Otherness

I added a note about the cover art for No Boundaries and Return to Otherness. Thanks, Willem H. 12:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Falling Torch

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 08:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Someone Like You

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 08:40, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Golem 100

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:24, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Bill, the Galactic Hero

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Elsewhere, Elsewhen, Elsehow

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 19:54, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Utopia 3

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Light a Last Candle

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:26, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Dark Is the Sun

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Web of Angels

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:21, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Dayworld Breakup

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:31, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

I added gutter code

I added an additional printing's gutter code to your verified [57].Don Erikson 05:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

The Magic Labyrinth

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

date of "The Drive-In Puerto Rico" in Eternity and Other Stories and cover

I submitted a merge of "The Drive-In Puerto Rico" that changes the date of the title in your verified Eternity and Other Stories from 2005-09-00 (the date of that pub) to 2002-10-00. Locus corroborates the 2002 date. --MartyD 10:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I also added this image. --MartyD 11:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Rendezvous with Rama

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

One for the Morning Glory

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 16:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Necromancer - added notation

Morning! This. [58]. I added notation and interior art after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:15, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Moderan

In this pub. Changed "It Was Black Cat Weather" to "It Was in Black Cat Weather". Changed "Sometimes I Get so Happy" to "Sometimes I Get So Happy". Also added an entry in the notes about the three sections.--swfritter 15:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

We Can Build You

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Running with the Demon

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 09:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Fear & The Ultimate Adventure

Converted "The Ultimate Adventure" in this pub and elsewhere to novella length.--swfritter 13:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

The Plains of Passage

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 13:46, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

You Sane Men

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Turn Left at Thursday

This pub. Changed page number for "The Hated" from 122 to 120. --swfritter 15:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Science Fiction Carnival

This pub. "A Logic Named Joe" by Leinster instead of Jenkins.--swfritter 19:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub New Worlds of Fantasy

This pub. Stanley Toothbrush is credited directly to Terry Carr and not his pseudonym.--swfritter 14:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Science Fiction Oddities

this pub. The Water Eater is credited to Winston K. Marks rather than Win Marks.--swfritter 15:35, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Changes to verified pub Thinking Machines

this pub. Skirmish is credited to Clifford Simak rather than Clifford D. Simak.--swfritter 15:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Galactic Diplomat

I added some notes (signature on the cover, subtitle) to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 19:52, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub My Best Science Fiction Story

this pub. Almost Human is credited to Bloch rather than the Fiske pseudonym.--swfritter 17:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub S-F: The Year's Greatest Science-Fiction and Fantasy

this pub. Budrys is credited as such and not as Janvier. James E. Gunn is credited as such and not as James Gunn.--swfritter 18:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub SF: The Year's Greatest Science Fiction and Fantasy: 4th Annual Volume

this pub. Gehman is credited rather than Scott for Hickory, Dickory, Kerouac.--swfritter 18:37, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Changes to verified pub 9th Annual Edition: The Year's Best S-F

This pub. Added cartoons. Ray Nelson is credited as such and not as Ray Faraday Nelson.--swfritter 13:31, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

The Lifeship

I Added some notes to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Two Tales and Eight Tomorrows

I added some notes and the LCCN to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 19:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

A Word from the (Human) Editor . . . or Author

You verified one of the publications of War with the Robots. All pubs have the foreword as "A Word from the (Human) Editor . . .", but in my copy it definitely is "A Word from the (Human) Author . . . Can you check your copy? If all entries are wrong (a human error, even Contento lists it with editor), the title can be changed. Thanks, Willem H. 20:08, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Don Erikson agreed (on three printings), and so did Swfritter, who made the change at the title level (with a note about Contento). Thanks, Willem H. 08:01, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Out of My Mind - changed Singleminded to Single-Minded

Afternoon! This. [59]. I changed Singleminded to read Single-Minded as per my copy. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Nightmare Blue

In this verified pub I replaced this cover scan with this one. Thanks, Willem H. 09:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The Incomplete Enchanter

In this verified pub I replaced this cover scan with this one. Thanks, Willem H. 09:49, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Triplication by Robert Sheckley

in this it's a short story--ErnestoVeg 16:49, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The Jesus Incident

I added this cover scan to this verified pub to replace this Amazon link. Thanks, Willem H. 21:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Crossfire - removed wrong cover

Morning! This. [60]. I removed the cover to "Altered Carbon" that was wrongly put here. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:04, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

The Day the Martians Came - added contents

Afternoon! This. [61]. I added contents after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:18, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

The Dispossessed

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

World's Best Science Fiction: 1966

I addeded a cover scan to World's Best Science Fiction: 1966--ErnestoVeg 09:58, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Changes to verified pub Weird Heros #1

this pub. Added artwork. Changed Leiber interview from essay. Mostly the same story with vol. 2.--swfritter 14:47, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Marooned in Realtime

Replaced the cover image of your verified pub: BKTG18994. --Phileas 09:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

The Last Defender of Camelot

I added a new cover image to your verified pub THLSCMLT4B1980. My copy does not include the maple leaf on the cover. I assume the scan is from a Canadian edition, but there is nothing in your pub to indicate that it is such an edition. I also added the Roman numbered pages. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:23, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Sandworld

I added a note about the cover artist (not credited, no signature) to this verified pub to match my copy. If you know where the credit to Paul Lehr comes from, please change the notes again. Thanks, Willem H. 14:40, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

The Triune Man

Added some notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 15:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. Willem H. 10:18, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Operation Future

This pub. The Sorcerer's Apprentice is credited to Malcolm Jameson, not Colin Keith.--swfritter 15:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Galaxies

I expanded the notes for this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 07:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Added gutter code

I added the gutter code to your verified [62].Don Erikson 06:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Mr. George and Other Odd Persons

This edition of Mr. George and Other Odd Persons is credited as by August Derleth, not Stephen Grendon.--ErnestoVeg 14:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I Am Legend

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:24, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Flowers for Algernon

I added some notes to your verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 20:30, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. Willem H. 20:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

cover for The Rift

ErnestoVeg has added this image to your verified The Rift. --MartyD 12:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

The Silver Horse

Added some notes to your verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 21:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. Willem H. 17:57, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Little Brother

Added cover scan to your verified pub http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?LTTLBRTHRZ2008. Also added the two Afterwords to the contents. Nowickj 01:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

"The Man Who Told the Truth" in Flowers From the Moon

I changed "Turth" to "Truth" on 560089 in your verified Flowers From the Moon and Other Lunacies. --MartyD 11:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Scop - added notation

Afternoon! This. [63]. I added notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 23:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

date change to "A Question of Identity" in Flowers From the Moon

I merged two instances of A Question of Identity, which appears in your verified Flowers From the Moon and Other Lunacies, changing the publication month from Feb to Apr. This matched our record from the April 1939 Strange Stories, in turn matching Locus1. Another verifier independently confirmed the Apr date. Thanks. --MartyD 14:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

cover image for The Star Fraction

ErnestoVeg has added this image to your verified The Star Fraction. --MartyD 12:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Changes to verified pub Not Long for This World

this pub. Modified title with "(abridged)" and added note about 11 stories excluded.--swfritter 15:18, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Early Del Rey - story title change

Morning! This. [64]. I changed the title from "The Wind Between the Worlds" to "Wind Between the Worlds" as on story title page. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:42, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

The Jekyll Legacy

The cover image on Jekyll Legacy we away. Found another one, does it match? Dana Carson 06:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Jem - added notation/cover

Afternoon! This. [65]. I added notation and lousy cover image [66], after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:28, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

The Devil is Dead

I added the cover artist (Robert LoGrippo) and a note to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 22:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Bring the Jubilee

I added some notes to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

6 Great Short Novels of Science Fiction - added interior art content

Afternoon! This. [67]. I added the interior art credit under the book title, so the illustrator would get credit after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Weird Heroes: Voume Eight - added cover/expanded notation/contents

Morning! This. [68]. I added cover image, hopefully, [69], and expanded notation and contents. I forgot the "Afterword" and will do that soon. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 16:13, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Wartide - added cover image/ changed Afterword to Afterward

Morning! This. [70]. I added a cover image, [71], and changed "Afterword" to "AfterwArd" as actually used in my copy after matching it to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Early Del Rey

After this discussion, I removed the pen-name attributed title records from this verified pub, and replaced them with title records attributed to Lester del Rey. Thanks, Willem H. 20:43, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Towing Jehovah and The Eternal Footman

I added some notes to Towing Jehovah and The Eternal Footman to match my copies. Thanks, Willem H. 16:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Also added coverscans here and there. Willem H. 20:51, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Tarzan and the Valley of Gold

I added the preface, interior art an notes to this verified pub, to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 20:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

The Worlds of Fritz Leiber

In this verified pub I changed the title of The Nice Girl with Five Husbands to Nice Girl with Five Husbands, as it's spelled on the story's titlepage, and added a note. Thanks, Willem H. 21:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Daybreak—2250 A.D

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 07:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

cover for Shadow's End

I added this image to your verified Shadow's End. --MartyD 11:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The Book of Gordon R. Dickson - added notation/corrected title in contents

Afternoon! This. [72]. I added notation and changed "Danger - Human!" story title to "Danger -Human" as shown on story title page and ToC. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Davy

I corrected the number of pages (last numbered page) and added the LCCN to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 09:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. Willem H. 14:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Farewell to Yesterday's Tomorrow

I added some notes to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Earth Magic

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:41, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The Spinner

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 11:28, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Lest Darkness Fall - added cover/notation

Morning! This. [73]. I added a cover image, [74], and this notation "Cover match with artist attribution in Randy Broecker's "Fantasy of the 20th Century" on pg. 77. Also, Jane Frank's "Science Fiction and Fantasy Artists of the Twentieth Century: A Biographical Dictionary" on pg. 198 rt. col. center (Prime Press/49, which is incorrect).
Boecker also states this is an "expanded reprint".
" Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

The Unknown - added cover/notation

Morning! This. [75]. I added a cover image, [76], and this notation "Cover match in Randy Broecker's "Fantasy of the 20th Century" with artist attribution on pg. 83.". Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:17, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

cover for The Other End of Time

I added this image to your verified The Other End of Time. --MartyD 17:44, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


Ring of swords

I added a cover scan to your verified here. Hauck 18:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

cover image for Deathbird Stories

Added this image to your verified Deathbird Stories. --MartyD 01:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The Last Hot Time

Added cover and expanded notes for The Last Hot Time. Dana Carson 11:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


In the hall of the martian ling =

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here, added note.Hauck 17:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Zoe's Tale

Corrected the publication date and added notes foe this verified pub, to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 20:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Dust

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here and added note. Idem for Undertow here.Hauck 17:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Forty Signs of Rain

Added the cover artist (Dominic Harman) and notes to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 19:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Also added this cover image. Willem H. 15:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The Sound of His Horn

Added the publication month to this verified pub from the 2nd printing, assuming yours is the first. Thanks, Willem H. 18:37, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

The best of john brunner

Upload a scan on your verified here. Hauck 20:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Black projects, white knights

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here and also here. Hauck 10:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

cover for The Essential Ellison

I added this image to your verified The Essential Ellison. --MartyD 13:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Moving Mars

I changed the scan on your verified here, IMHO, it was the SFBC jacket (cf. SFBC number on bottom of back cover). Hervé Hauck 14:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Greetings

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 17:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Undersea Quest - added cover/notation

Morning! This. [77]. I added a cover image, [78], and notation using a cover/artist match in "Emshwiller: Infinity X Two". Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Redemolished

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here and added note. Hauck 15:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Science Fiction Terror Tales cover image

Hello. I added this image to your verified Science Fiction Terror Tales. Boxen 18:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

The Complete Enchanter

Looking at The Complete Enchanter and my copy has differences. Page 335 should be "Afterword: Fletcher and I", and I have a gutter code of '44 R'. Castle of Iron stars on 203 (201 is title page). With 335 being Preface wit a date of 1985 it looks like someone edited the wrong version or merged something. Dana Carson 09:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

The cloud walker

Added a cover scan and note for your verified here. Hauck 17:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

The Mote in God’s Eye II

I corrected the number of pages and added notes to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem 20:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. --Willem 14:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Budayeen Nights

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 14:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

From the End of the Twentieth Century

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here, added note and corrected page number of introduction (9 instead of 1). Hauck 10:12, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The Trade of Queens

I added some notes to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem 19:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. --Willem 17:39, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Born With the Dead

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem 17:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

The Time Hoppers

I added some notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, --Willem 18:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Journals of the Plague Years

I added notes and pagenumbers to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 09:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

The Imperator Plot

I added notes & LCCN to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 12:32, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. --Willem H. 15:11, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Our Children's Children

I added the cover artist (Richard Powers) and notes to this verified pub, to match my copy. Thanks, --Willem H. 10:17, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Pohlstars

I added some notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, --Willem H. 10:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

A Town Is Drowning

I added some notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, --Willem H. 20:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Shambling Towards Hiroshima a novella?

It was nominated in that category for 2009 Hugos. From looking at the Amazon look-inside it is possible that it is on the 40k borderline. --swfritter 15:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Ken MacLeod

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here and added note, also for here and here. Hauck 14:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The Passage of the Light

Added image to your verified here. Hauck 16:21, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Universe Day by K. M. O'Donnell

The ISBN can be inferred from on the spine to be 0-380-02394-6. The inferred ISBN can be searched for on the net. I'll let you do the editing. --Astromath 23:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

The Day of the Burning by Barry Malzberg

The ISBN can be inferred by the number on the spine. The inferred ISBN can be searched through the net. --Astromath 13:35, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Pavane

I added the contents & cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Mars Plus

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 16:49, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

(Selections from) Deep Space

Changed the title to Selections from Deep Space, as stated on the titlepage, added pagenumber for Homo Saps and notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, --Willem H. 09:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

The Margarets

I added some notes to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Typo

I changed Alan Ayres to Alan Ayers here Jonschaper 03:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

The Land of Unreason

I added The Land of Unreason to the Ballantine Adult Fantasy pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 11:36, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

The Universe Against Her

Remplaced the scan for your verified here. Hauck 14:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Rite of Passage

I added Rite of Passage to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Picnic on Paradise

I added Picnic on Paradise to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

The Jagged Orbit

I added The Jagged Orbit to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

The Preserving Machine

I added The Preserving Machine to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

The Preserving Machine

I added The Island Under the Earth to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

The Steel Crocodile

I added The Steel Crocodile to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

And Chaos Died

I added And Chaos Died to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

After Things Fell Apart

I added After Things Fell Apart to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:38, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Nine Hundred Grandmothers

I added Nine Hundred Grandmothers to the Ace SF Special 1 pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

New Writings in SF3- added notation

Afternoon! This. [79]. I added cover art, and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

The Waters of Centaurus

I added a note to The Waters of Centaurus with "An AbeBooks seller reports "First printing code L12". This needs to be confirmed." --Marc Kupper|talk 16:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed, I adapted the notes and publication date. --Willem H. 18:55, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Toast

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here and added note. Hauck 11:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

SF: The Best of the Best

I added a note about the printing statement to SF: The Best of the Best. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

The Golden Age

Added a cover scan for your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88729 here. Hauck 19:58, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Giants Unleashed - del introduction/added titled essay

Afternoon! This. [80]. I deleted the "Introduction" in contents and added the titled essay as given on essay title page. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The Expert Dreamers - added cover/notation/changed one author content

Afternoon! This. [81]. I added cover and notation after matching my copy to your ver. I also changed crediting of one story to Leo Gregor as used on copyright page, ToC and story title page. I know it has (Milton R. Rothman), but the crediting is clearly to pseudonym as in several other stories. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

3 to the Highest Power - added cover image

Morning! This. [82]. I added a cover image after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

A Torrent of Faces cover

User:Dsorgen has uploaded a new cover image for your verified pub of A Torrent of Faces . I am about to approve the pub edit. ---DES Talk 22:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Knight of Shadows

I added a cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 13:59, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

cover for The Best from FSF #19

Dsorgen has added a cover to your verified The Best from FSF #19. --MartyD 00:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

cover for Casting Fortune

Dsorgen has added a cover to your verified Casting Fortune. --MartyD 09:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Petty Treason

I added notes, an essay, and a cove image to your verified pub PTTTRSNXCH2004, and changed it from NONGENRE to NOVEL on the grounds that it is alternate history (The succession to the English crown has changed, for one thing). -DES Talk 20:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

The Oz Encounter

I added notes, essays and interior art to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 15:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Heart of Whitenesse

I did some rework on this pub. Corrected the number of pages from 275 to 274, corrected the publication date from 2005-05-31 to 2005-05-00 and added pagenumbers, afterwords and notes. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Ring of Fire (cover image)

I'm replacing the Amazon cover image for your verified Ring of Fire with an actual scan of the cover. AndonSage 02:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Before the Golden Age, Book 2

I added a cover image and notes to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 15:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Winona McClintic's Two Voices

You verified this pub containing Two Voices. The other version of this pub as well as the original F&SF have it as The Two Voices. I have already double checked with that verifier and he confirms it is indeed with a "The". Would you mind double checking your publication before I create a variant record? Thanks. --JLaTondre 19:23, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Nevernever, by Will Shetterly, P.J.F.

You are the primary verifier for the 1st edition of Nevernever. This is listed in the ISFDB as by "Will Shetterly", which is the way his name appears on the cover. At least on my copy, though, the title page has him listed as "Will Shetterly, P. J. F.", a variant that he uses. Since my understanding of the rules is that it's the title page variant of the author name that we use, I'm changing the author attribution to that variant. Chavey 01:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The Circus of Dr. Lao and Other Improbable Stories

I added the cover artist (from the signature) and notes to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Solution T-25 by Du Bois or DuBois

Taking a chance here that you'll respond, but if you're inclined, please confirm how the author's name is credited on this pub's title page. Mhhutchins 20:04, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

The Metal Smile and Human and Other Beings

I added cover scans to your verified The Metal Smile and Human and Other Beings. --Willem H. 20:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Mother Was a Lovely Beast

I added the forewords, cover artist and notes to Mother Was a Lovely Beast. Also changed the name of Thomas L. Jones to Thomas Llewellan Jones, as credited in the pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 21:35, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Cherie Priest's Dreadful Skin

Just a note that as per a recent discussion on the Community Portal, Dreadful Skin has been converted from a Collection to a fix-up Novel. Your verified first edition has been adjusted accordingly. The page numbers for individual parts were recorded in the Notes field. Thanks! Ahasuerus 03:43, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

New Writings in SF 11

Found artist for your verified here. Hauck 09:01, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Essay to essay in Poul Anderson

I added the Author's Note you mentioned in your verified pub into an actual essay as content in Poul Anderson's The Merman's Children. Stonecreek 14:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

The Science Fiction Bestiary

I added the cover artist (from the signature) and notes to this verified pub. --Willem H. 20:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Science-Fiction Carnival

In this verified pub I changed the credit for "The Swordsmen of Varnis" from Geoffrey Cobbe to Clive Jackson. The pseudonym is not mentioned in the pub. Also added notes. --Willem H. 09:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The Great Fetish (L. Sprague de Camp)

Hi, I've found your cover artist, Steele Savage aka Harry Steele Savage.--Dirk P Broer 16:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Deathbird Stories

I changed a few things in this verified pub. The introduction is called foreword now and added a comma after the Z to "From A to Z in the Sarsaparilla Alphabet". Also restructured and added to the notes. Thanks, --Willem H. 13:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Universe 14

Replaced cover image and added OCLC note to Universe 14 Albinoflea 22:45, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Berserker

Hi, I uploaded a scan for Berserker (Ace 1978).--Dirk P Broer 15:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I just added the contents after I discovered that other verified editions had them as well.--Dirk P Broer 18:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

All the Windwracked Stars

Replaced the amazon scan for your verified here. Hauck 10:09, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The Science Fiction Art of Vincent Di Fate

Replaced the amazon scan and modified pub date to match copyright page (2002 instead of 2001) for your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?185589 here}. Hauck 10:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Judgment Night

I added the subtitle and the page numbers for the stories to Moore's Judgment Night. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Frederik Pohl's New Scientist "Mars at the British Ass.'

You verified this pub which contains New Scientist "Mars at the British Ass.' and this pub which contains New Scientist: "Mars at the British Ass.". Are these two stories the same? If they are, is the semicolon part of the official title (and a variant should be set-up) or is it indicating a subtitle (and they can be merged). Thanks. --JLaTondre 23:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Adding contents to Cigar-Box Faust

While reviewing a submission and doing a Locus1 verification, I noticed you verified Cigar-Box Faust and Other Miniatures doesn't have the contents enumerated. Any objection to my adding it, using the contents list on Locus? --MartyD 19:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I should mention that the submission he was reviewing was me adding a cover image, from Amazon, to that book. Chavey 03:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Fugue State / The Death of Doctor Island

I added a cover scan of Fugue State / The Death of Doctor Island . Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

1633

I replaced the Amazon cover image, added notes, and added the three titled maps for your verified 1633. AndonSage 21:33, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Ring of Fire (notes)

I added notes to your verified Ring of Fire. AndonSage 21:55, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

1634: The Galileo Affair

I added notes, and the two titled maps, to your verified 1634: The Galileo Affair. AndonSage 00:00, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


SF: The Best of the Best, ed. by Judith Merril

I'm doing a secondary verification of this book, verified by you. There appear to be three errors in the ways the authors of stories are listed in our publication record. Casey Agonistes is listed "as by R. M. McKenna", but the story title page lists the author as "Richard McKenna" (the ToC lists him as "Richard M. McKenna"). Nobody Bothers Gus is listed "as by Paul Janvier", an alias of Algis Budrys, but both the title page and the ToC list it as by Algis Budrys. And Hickory, Dickory, Kerouac is listed "as by Martin Scott", an alias of Richard Gehman, but is also actually listed as by Richard Gehman. I am changing the way these three entries are listed to agree with the three title pages. Chavey 04:07, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Shambleau and Others, by C. L. Moore

I corrected the spelling of the cover artist's name for your verified edition of this book, from "Binklley" to "Binkley". Chavey 22:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

7th Year's Best SF, by Judith Merril

I have corrected the page number of the Jules Feiffer cartoon "Looking Backward" from p. 153 to p. 154 in your verified edition of this book. Chavey 04:23, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Covers added

I added a cover scan to your verified Transformations and 13 French Science-Fiction Stories. --Willem H. 18:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Weird Heroes 6

I added notes, interior art, introductions and afterwords to this verified pub. --Willem H. 13:34, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Weird Heroes vol. 1 and 2

I added the coverartist, notes and the various introductions and afterwords to your verified Weird Heroes Volume 1 and Volume 2. --Willem H. 18:56, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Two Voices

Hi, I assume you're not active so I've merged "Two Voices" here with its appearances as "The Two Voices" (including as it's entered in another verified copy of the Best From F&SF, 3rd Series). Cheers Jonschaper 00:06, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

The Year's Best S-F: 5th Annual Edition

In this verified pub I changed the credit for Me from Hilbert Schenck to Hilbert Schenck, Jr., added the missing Jack Sharkey story on page 87 and added notes (there were none). --Willem H. 09:25, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

SF: The Year's Greatest Science Fiction and Fantasy: 4th Annual Volume

After this discussion I added the Asimov essay after the poem "The Thunder-Thieves" to this verified pub under the title "The Thunder-Thieves (afterword)". Hope you can agree. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:10, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Damnation Alley

I added cover artist and notes to this verified pub. --Willem H. 19:42, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

The Valley of Horses

I accepted the submission adding this new record, but there are too many numbers in the ISBN, and the page count doesn't match any secondary sources, all of whom give the ISBN as 0-517-54489-X and the page count as 502. I know it's unlikely that you'll respond here, but if I've not heard anything in the next day or so (you can email me), I'll have to delete the record. Sorry. Mhhutchins 22:46, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

The Hand of Oberon

I added the cover artist and notes to this verified pub. --Willem H. 11:29, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Also added a coverscan. --Willem H. 19:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

On an Odd Note

Hi, I added a link to the OCLC record for On an Odd Note (Ballantine, 1958). --Dirk P Broer 11:23, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Ellison's Paingod

I added Paingod and Other Delusions to the Harlan Ellison Uniform Series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:32, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Also Memos from Purgatory. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
and Spider Kiss. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
and Gentleman Junkie. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:05, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
and Love Ain't Nothing But Sex Misspelled. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Judith Merril's 11th "Year's Best SF"

The contents for your verified publication includes a short story listed as "Singular Case of Extreme Electrolyte Balance Associated with Folie a Deux". My edition of this book indicates that the correct title is "A Singular ...", so I have submitted a change to that effect. As primary verifier, I invite you to check that this is consistent with your copy. Chavey 05:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Chavey is right, and Contento1 is probably wrong, so I changed the title record and left a note for the future verifyer of the Delacorte edition. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

In the Courts of the Crimson Kings - cover and notes

I replaced the default Amazon UK cover image with a scanned image, and added notes to your verified In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. AndonSage 03:36, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

A Taint in the Blood - cover and notes

I replaced the default Amazon UK cover image with a scanned image, and added notes to your verified A Taint in the Blood. AndonSage 03:54, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

1824: The Arkansas War - Interior Art Credit

I updated your verified pub 1824: The Arkansas War to include an interior art credit for the maps. Thanks Kevin 02:20, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

August Derleth - (Tales From) Not Long for this World

I updated your verified pub Not Long for this World with a few corrections to match my copy in hand. Somehow, the wrong variant of The Drifting Snow was included.. it was pointing at the pseudonym variant, instead of the canonical parent (Since this colection is by August Derleth instead of Stephen Grendon I corrected this error). I also added a new Variant of The God-Box and created The Gold-Box, along with some explanatory notes. All of this matches my copy in hand. Please let me know if either of these changes needs further discussion. Thanks Kevin 23:33, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

"A Romance of the Equator", Brian Aldiss

I added a cover image to your verified publication. Chavey 19:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Delany's Heavenly Breakfast

I added a cover scan, the preface (of sorts) and the note 'About the Author' to this Stonecreek 18:28, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Patton's Spaceship

The Amazon cover was missing, so I added a new one to this --Sjmathis 21:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Orson Scott Card - Lovelock

I updated the notes, pages, and linked cover art on your verified pub Lovelock to match my copy in hand. Kevin 04:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Carnell - New Writings in S-F 1

Added cover art to your verified pub New Writings in S-F 1 Kevin 23:15, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Mr. George and Other Odd Persons

Added cover scan to Mr. George and Other Odd Persons Nimravus 16:46, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Children of God

I'm doing a secondary verification on your verified publication Children of God as I've added some publication/price details and added a cover scan. Thanks. PeteYoung 21:59, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Stations of the tide

Assuming you're not active, I changed the artist for this pub from Daniel Horn to Daniel Horne. Hauck 10:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

A Different Light

Hi, added cover to this verified pub. Thanks, P-Brane 23:31, 6 February 2012 (UTC).

I added information to the notes on http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17766 If at Faust You Don't Succeed, primarily concerning the cover and interior artists, but also the LCCN and the number string.Biomassbob 03:07, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Red Dragon Thomas Harris 1981

Added cover for this pub BarDenis 22:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Power (Laurence M. Janifer 1974)

Added cover to this pub --Pips55 17:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Starship Troopers

Added cover to this pub --Pips55 21:09, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

For Love and Glory

I added the LCCN to your notes for http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14151 For Love and Glory. Bob 01:09, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Harvest the Stars

I added the LCCN to the notes for http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16459 Harvest the Stars. Bob 01:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Tomorrow and Tomorrow & The Fairy Chessmen

I've changed the title of the novella in this record from "Chessboard Planet" to "The Fairy Chessmen". Mhhutchins 01:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Selections From Beyond Human Ken - cover credit

I corrected the artist for this verified pub from "Bergen" to "Charles Binger". His signature is on the cover. Thanks, --Willem H. 21:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The Boat of a Million Years

I added the LCCN and the complete line number to the notes of http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?36223 The Boat of a Million Years. Bob 05:37, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The Adventures of Alyx cover image

I replaced the Amazon cover image with a scanned cover image, and added notes for your verified The Adventures of Alyx. AndonSage 04:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

The Man Who Had No Idea.

Hi, added cover to this verified pub. Cheers, P-Brane 04:47, 16 March 2012 (UTC).

David Zindell - War in Heaven

Deleted "The" from title. Thanks--Teddybear 20:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Echoes of Honor

I added notes and information on the drawings to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17241 Echoes of Honor. Bob 00:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

1632

I added to the notes of http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?71 1632, and included the maps as interior art. Bob 01:10, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Galaxies

Hi, I replaced the Amazon scan of Galaxies (Pyramid, 1975) with a scan of my own. --Dirk P Broer 20:11, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

OFearna changes to verified pubs

Just added a cover scan link for Charles de Lint's Eyes Like Leaves, which you did the primary verificaiton on.Ofearna 06:56, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

made some changes to the Welcome to Bordertown and the stories (2 were flat-out corrections) and when they are approved I'll try to take over primary verify if I can Ofearna 07:39, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

added artist credit and source for Engine Summer by John Crowley. Ofearna 18:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

adding details to Eyes Like LeavesOfearna 22:35, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

added cover to The Plague Bearers Ofearna 10:51, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Finishing Touches

I accepted the submission to add the Atheneum edition of title before I realized there was a record for it already in the database. So I deleted the duplicate record (it had been entered under the title record of the collection with the same name anyway). Mhhutchins 20:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Starchild

I added a cover artist to your copy of Pohl and Williamson's Starchild, as well as a note to its source. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Ballard's 'The Kindness of Women'

Have added a cover image and brief note to your verified pub here. Thanks. PeteYoung 16:42, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Heroes and Horrors

I added "White covers with gold lettering" to the notes for http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16951 Heroes and Horrors (trade edition). Bob 19:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Sea of Glass image added

I have submitted my cover scan of Sea of Glass. Thanks. Jmaloney 21:05, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

The Moon's Fire-eating Daughter

I added a cover image, LCCN and OCLC links to Myers' The Moon's Fire-eating Daughter. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

More Nightmares

I replaced the Amazon cover image of Bloch's More Nightmares with a scan of my own copy which doesn't have stickers on it as the Amazon image does. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Whom the Gods Would Slay

I added some notes to this verified pub. --Willem H. 17:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Passing Through the Flame

An editor has uploaded and linked the cover image to this verified record. Mhhutchins 04:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

The Visitor, Six Moon Dance, The Companions

Added Canadian cover prices to the Notes of your verified pubs The Visitor, Six Moon Dance and The Companions, the last of which I've also added the cover. PeteYoung 23:21, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Greener Than You Think. Adding cover image and price to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257515 SFJuggler 04:43, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

In the Problem Pit

Hi, I just added cover artist Eddie Jones to this publication. Horzel 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Crimson Shadows

I added words to the notes of Crimson Shadows. Bob 19:04, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Added correct cover scan to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40076 SFJuggler 05:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch

Just added cover artist Jack Faragasso to the Macfadden 1966 edition. Horzel 21:29, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

World of Ptavvs

Just added cover artist Adams to this publication. Horzel 09:09, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

The Sound of His Horn

I added a cover artist to Sarban's The Sound of His Horn with a note as to the source. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Ringstones

I added a cover scan, the cover artist to Sarban's Ringstones with a note as to the source. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Correction to pub record for Encounter With Tiber

I updated Encounter With Tiber to change the Year field from 1996-06-00 to 1996-07-00, the Pages field from 560 to ix+560, added notes as there were none, and added the Foreword plus interior art. --Marc Kupper|talk 01:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Children of the Company

You did a primary verification of Children of the Company and I've added the short stories that made up this book in the table of contents and changed it to a collection... Ofearna 07:45, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

rejected; decided that even though the stories were previously published they were not done in this manner. Ofearna 10:52, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Greg Bear's Heads

Added an interior art credit for your verified pub. PeteYoung 03:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

With a Finger in My I

Added a better cover scan to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?55056.SFJuggler 00:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

The Crystal Horde

I added INTERIORART titles for the endpapers and decorations for Taine' s The Crystal Horde. I also linked the Worldcat number. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Black Aura - John Sladek

Added cover scan to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222509.SFJuggler 20:01, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

invisible Green

Added cover scan and series note to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?298239 and series note to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?222509.SFJuggler 05:50, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Crystal Empire

Added cover scan and notes to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37669.SFJuggler 20:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Sandworld

Sandworld has same cover as Duin, which explains Paul Lehr cover art credit. Horzel 16:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

War Fever - J.G. Ballard

Added cover scan to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279050.SFJuggler 05:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Beyond Earth's Gates

Added cover artist Harry Barton for Beyond Earth's Gates cover of this Ace Double. Horzel 10:08, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Acts of Mercy - Pronzini & Malzberg

Added better cover scan to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252676. SFJuggler 23:42, 25 December 2012 (UTC)