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Kawakami's People from My Neighbourhood

Hi Joe, I'm only asking you because I see you've worked on Hiromi Kawakami's biblio in the past. I've added her collection People from My Neighbourhood, which has 34 miniature stories most of which have a genre bias. I've already made every story a variant of its Japanese original, however I'm unable to locate each story's original Japanese title. Want to have a go? Cheers. PeteYoung 10:20, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

Can you send me pics of the copyright page(s)? According to the tables of contents I've seen, they're in the back of the book, which means they don't show up in Look Inside. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 11:11, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

PeteYoung 14:03, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

Thanks! I got all of them now. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:45, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

I don't know that they should be in that series, though, as that's just the title of the English collection they are in. The stories aren't connected as far as I could tell. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:47, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

I've been reading it over the last few days. The stories are all linked in the same neighbourhood and share many characters and events, so they really ought to be grouped together as a series to differentiate them from others. There could well be more stories not contained in this collection and I'm certainly open to a less cumbersome series title (maybe just 'Neighbourhood', unless there's a specific title Kawakami has for these stories?). Thanks for your help. PeteYoung 16:02, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

I'll add the Japanese title to the series. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:48, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

I've also created a series for the collections. There are two volumes in it: one in Japanese and one in English. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:56, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

Time at the Top

Hi. You verified a copy of the 1986 Bantam Skylark Time at the Top P518125, as containing cover art by Peggie Bach and no illustrations.

I infer that the book actually contains the original 1963 b/w line drawings by Bach. The 1st edition hc cover is illustrated by one such drawing; unfortunately we have an image only for the undated 6th printing P551227. See also our record of the 1st Bantam pb edition P233049. Both those records are by Marc Kupper.

WorldCat does report the illustrations by Bach. I submit PubUpdate that merely adds the OCLC id. --Pwendt|talk 18:37, 19 August 2021 (EDT)

I'll check mine when I get home. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:48, 19 August 2021 (EDT)

It does indeed have interior illustrations. I've updated the entry. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 11:26, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

Also, there are no artist credits other than those for Peggie Bach. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:15, 24 August 2021 (EDT)

Matsuda Aoko

Hi Joe,

Would you have time to clear up a Japanese author translations? There is look inside on the Japanese Amazon but if I try to map things around, I am bound to make a mistake. And feel free to fix what I already managed to do here. Thanks! Annie 14:40, 25 August 2021 (EDT)

I'll see what I can do. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:21, 27 August 2021 (EDT)

Ping. Thanks! :) Annie 19:02, 20 September 2021 (EDT)

Foundation's Edge

I saw this edit in my changed verifications, with as moderator note 'update page count based on unnumbered blank pages between page xiii and page 1'. The help text however states 'For example, a book with a page count field of "viii+320" has "viii" as the highest numbered page with a Roman numeral. (Note that there are no spaces in the page count.) Pages without numbers that fall between the two types of page numbering can be ignored.' I changed the pagecount back to xiii+426. --Willem 14:59, 21 September 2021 (EDT)

Okay. That doesn't make sense since we're trying to accurately count the pages, but whatever. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:04, 21 September 2021 (EDT)

It does make sense, since we're recording the last numbered page. --Willem 15:54, 21 September 2021 (EDT)

Except then it leaves actual pages missing inbetween the two styles of numbering, so it's inaccurate. I'm not going to argue about it, though. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:58, 21 September 2021 (EDT)

I tend to add that kind of information into the Notes field... :) MagicUnk 13:29, 22 September 2021 (EDT)

Dark One, Vol. One

I counted the pages to Dark One, Vol. One and replaced the Amazon page count with 221 instead of 224. Bob 20:29, 24 September 2021 (EDT)

Midnight Doorways

As per this discussion and this Wikipedia page, I've changed the currency symbol for our verified Midnight Doorways from PK₹2000 to Rs2000. PeteYoung 13:33, 26 September 2021 (EDT)

Thousands separator in prices

As a few of your verified are caught in this - just a quick note - a lot of Japanese prices on the site miss the thousands separator which is mandatory under the price field rules:

• "Period (".") should be used as the decimal separator and comma (",") as the thousands separator, regardless of currency or native number format, e.g. €7.80 or Lit 1,000."

so they popped up on the report today and will get fixed in the next days. I know Japanese does not use them natively but as per the rules, that does not matter - we standardize the formatting. Thanks! :) Annie 13:52, 27 September 2021 (EDT)

I'll try to remember, but my brain doesn't usually notice it because there is no thousands separator in Japanese (it's at ten thousand). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:45, 27 September 2021 (EDT)

Oh, I know. Bulgarian does not have it at all AND we use "," for the decimal one. Same for most of Europe. Always trips me when I am adding European books when I had not touched them for awhile. You will see quite a lot of pings for changed PV-ed pubs because of that though. I try to add a note what I am doing but just heads up. :) Annie 16:50, 27 September 2021 (EDT)

I can take care of the Japanese ones. That way I don't get the ping for them. (^_^) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:51, 27 September 2021 (EDT)

Also, it seems to me this could be easily automated upon submission. If there are more than three numerals without commas, have it automatically insert a comma in the appropriate places in the price. This is done with dashes in ISBNs, and I imagine a similar thing could be done with the prices. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:54, 27 September 2021 (EDT)

Won't help the ones already in the DB - and yellow warnings are coming for irregular prices (When the FR is implemented). Some of it possibly can be automated - feel free to post here :)

Sure, unless I forget and start on them again - they are on the top of the report and I am using the report as a palate cleaner amongst other things. I will try to work on the bottom part of the report. :) Annie 16:58, 27 September 2021 (EDT)

Heksemesteren

Hi. I saw that you set up Heksemesteren/Häxmästaren. It's currently set up with Norwegian as the original language and Swedish as a translation. This National Library of Sweden entry however indicates that Norwegian is the translation and Swedish the original language. Just wanted to check if you had a source which said otherwise since you set it up the other way around. Cheers /Lokal_Profil 17:40, 29 September 2021 (EDT)

If you're sure it's backward, feel free to switch things around. The information I had three years ago indicated it was the way I entered them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:19, 30 September 2021 (EDT)

Thanks. Then I'll start flipping them. /Lokal_Profil 06:38, 2 October 2021 (EDT)

The Fall of Gondolin

Hello, could you check if there's one or more pages that contain the map of Beleriand in your copy? If so, could you add it to the record you PV'd? Thanks! MagicUnk 12:37, 2 October 2021 (EDT)

Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:36, 3 October 2021 (EDT)

Thanks! And 'translations' varianted MagicUnk 14:19, 5 October 2021 (EDT)

Oathbringer

Shouldn't the dust jacket inside illustration by Isaac Stewart to be changed as an interiorart here? Biomassbob wants You to decide. --Zapp 14:30, 5 October 2021 (EDT)

I'm not sure. I can't see anything here or here that says one way or the other. We should probably clarify that for future reference. Let me check around. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:07, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

To the best of my recollection, COVERART records are only used for the art that appears on the cover. Ahasuerus 14:13, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

My gut feeling says interior art. But our rules do not cover the case indeed. Annie 15:02, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

So, maybe we can add something like "For art that appears on the inside face of a dust jacket, treat it as interior art." Maybe we could use something like "ji" )for "jacket interior" for the page number? Do we want to discuss this on the Rules and Standards before clarifying things? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:00, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

Yes - R&S discussion is needed before we do that kind of clarification :) Annie 16:20, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

Okay, I've created the discussion. Any further comments should go there. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:02, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

Paul Levinson Talks to Rufus Sewell About the Man in the High Castle: Deconstructing the Television Series

Just heads up: I just converted this to nonfiction - chapbooks require a fiction element; single essays and interviews and so on go into nonfiction as a type under the current rules. Just heads up as you moderated (I also fixed the paperback size and capitalization on both the interview and the title :) Annie 15:33, 5 October 2021 (EDT)

Sounds good to me. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:01, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

洞窟の女王・ソロモン王の宝窟

Hello,

The title and the publication title here do not match. If I am piecing this properly, the one that needs changing is the Title record (you changed the pub one at some point but not the title one) but not sure if that was the case. Can you check and fix whichever needs fixing? Thanks! Annie 13:39, 6 October 2021 (EDT)

Yeah, that was just a typo. All fixed now. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:04, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

El tercer mundo después del sol

Hello,

This thing had only the ISBN, title, cover, language and type correct and the ebook was even worse (the editor forgot to add the ISBN) - even the author was wrong. Adding it to the DB in that form with no source notes is almost useless and makes the DB look sloppy. :) Here is how it looks now and its ebook. I know that some of these can be challenging but... this should not have been approved and left in that form. Thanks! Annie 06:48, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

I can see your point about the author name, but we approve publications all the time without pricing. The bigger problem seems to be Tocchan never responding to anything. Perhaps we need to look at his/her contributions and see if they are a net positive to the site. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:42, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

The price was the last thing that worried me in this one (and that one I expected to be left empty - I just got determined enough to find it last night). However, the wrong author, the lack of any identifying information on the ebook (no ASIN, no ISBN, no publisher link) and the lack of ANY notes about the source on either of the two were problems that should have been rectified on approval (an the two titles needed merging) :) . We claim that we only add properly sourced data - and yet that was anything but - we really should not allow non-PVd pubs with no source notes.

As for the net positive - the editor has the ability to unearth the weirdest stuff (and they add contents often later on) - his submissions require a LOT of work though. But they are consistently bad - you will never see ASIN on an ebook, ISBN on ebooks will be there only if it he is working off a publisher site that lists them in plain text, you will always get the separate formats as NewPub and you will never ever get publication notes unless he clicks on the "data from the publisher site" in the radio boxes. I'd rather approve and fix that lose the books usually - but just approving and not fixing should not be a choice for any moderator... :) Annie 14:40, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

I can understand that. Regarding the name, I suspect I got distracted and forgot. Thanks for fixing it, though. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:35, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

:) No worries - I've done bigger blunders. :) I am just trying to make sure we do not just rubber-stamp his submissions with no sources and no IDs of any type. Sends the wrong message somehow. Thanks! :) Annie 16:58, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

Omni's Screen Flights/Screen Fantasies: The Future According to Science Fiction Cinema

Hello,

Can you check this essay in your verified - is it by "Phillip Strick" or by "Philip Strick" (ll vs l in Philip)? Thanks! Annie 13:23, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

I will try to remember to do that when I get home tonight. If I haven't responded in 2-3 days, remind me. :) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:43, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

It's "Philip", with one "l". ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:33, 26 October 2021 (EDT)

Fixed. Thanks! Annie 12:53, 26 October 2021 (EDT)

I added OL link to the TP edition, which is previewable on the Archive, and search gives Philip as the first name; he's mentioned several times in the book. --Username 16:34, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

The Nimrod Hunt (edit)

It's not clear to me if there more you need for approving edit [1]. It seemed like the other active PVers agreed with the changes. --GlennMcG 15:50, 26 October 2021 (EDT)

One agreed with you and the other did not (at least not for the publisher part). Let's let things sit for a bit more. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:03, 27 October 2021 (EDT)

I think the edit can be approved. Ahasuerus agreed, and I have no problem with the publisher change. As I stated: "i.m.o. Baen, Baen Books and Baen Science Fiction Books should all be merged into Baen Books". Both "Baen Science Fiction Books" and "Baen Books" are printed in my copy. --Willem 16:40, 27 October 2021 (EDT)

The Audible JP ASINs

I just stumbled on one of them again here and that made me remember them again: instead of waiting to see if we need a new External ID, why don't we put these up in Web Pages for now as links to the Audible Japan's record? That way we have a direct link and we do not lose track of them. I had been doing the same for Audible.de and Audible.co.uk when I am adding books from them (see the search). What do you think? Annie 22:45, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

I'm not sure what you mean. I've been putting them in the external ID field since the links work for the specific version of Audible. That one was likely done before I started doing that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:38, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

The Audible External IDs links lead to Audible.com (the US site). Are you saying that they forward to Amazon.co.jp for you based on your browser/computer locale when you click on them? The ones that are on both sites are clear but not all ASINs are valid across all Audibles. Annie 13:48, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

I was remembering incorrectly. I had this discussion with Ahaseurus a while back and placing them in the notes was what was decided upon until he gets something in place to handle them. We may have to do a separate option (AudibleUK-ASIN, AudibleJP-ASIN, etc.) for those that aren't the same across languages. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:51, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

OK - we are back on the same page. :) And yes - we will need multiple of those eventually. But until then: What I am proposing is to start using the Web Pages instead of just the Notes. They can be moved from there as easily as they can be moved from Notes and we will have the correct links in the meantime as opposed to just inert strings. Plus that makes it a lot easier to see how many we have from co.uk, co.jp., .de and the rest so easier to justify adding a new external ID/Template. Annie 13:56, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

Sounds like a plan. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:18, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

Parliament of Wizards

Hi Joe,

Just a quick reminder that a future book becomes eligible to be added to the DB 90 days before publication. This is more than 90 days in the future. Plus books so far ahead in the future tend to get delayed often so adding that early is a bad idea - we keep re-dating them after that (and with anthologies, that means stories and parents and what's not also need re-dating). So let's not add books that are not eligible to be here (yet) under our own rules. Thanks! :) Annie 14:35, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

Generally, I agree with you. In this case, it's within a couple weeks of 90 days, and I know the people doing it. It's not going to change. It's all set in stone now. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:46, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

I believe you. But when the next editor tries to add a book that will come out in June, they have a precedent to use and to complain that some people are allowed to while others are not. So let's stick to the rules when possible. As for "not going to change" - a lot of things were set in stone for last April/May and then the world closed. So never say never and all that. :) Annie 14:53, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

Sshhh ...

You have verified this pub containing Sshhh ... and this pub containing "Shhhh...". I would assume they are the same story and should be varianted to the same parent. Would you mind checking? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:14, 7 November 2021 (EST)

I'll try to check when I get home. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:45, 8 November 2021 (EST)

Birth Place

Just a quick reminder: we use "USA" and not "United States"> I am fixing a few you added with the latter. :) Annie 13:47, 16 November 2021 (EST)

I'll try to remember. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:01, 16 November 2021 (EST)