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Fanzine de la SF Internationale No.27

Since I found this fanzine I've been wondering how the confusing contributions by user Antunes can be corrected. I did my very best. Unfortunately, only some of the pages are available as scans on the website of WordPress and I'm not quite fluent in Japanese. :) Can You please have a look on that? Thank You! --Zapp (talk) 16:22, 26 January 2024 (EST)

Japan SF Year Book

https://archive.org/search?query=%22japan-sf-year-book%22&sin=TXT; Not sure exactly what it covers but I don't think it's on ISFDB so if it qualifies you may want to enter it. --Username (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2024 (EST)

Added]. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:43, 24 March 2024 (EDT)

Folklore Studies

Hi Joe,

Can you help finding the Japanese series and title and author name here. Thanks in advance! Annie (talk) 19:53, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:10, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

Thanks! Annie (talk) 20:11, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

Swan Song published in Canada

Hello. I see that you have changed the Swan Song entry I added for the book published in Canada by changing the publisher to Pocket Books (Canada). The book's title page states "Published by Pocket Books New York" over "Distributed in Canada by PaperJacks Ltd., a Licensee of the trademarks of Simon & Schuster, Inc." and the copyright page states "POCKET BOOKS, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc. 1230 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y.10020" above "In Canada distributed by PaperJacks Ltd., 330 Steelcase Road, Markham, Ontario". So, I'm not sure - do these two statements verify that the book was published by Pocket Books (Canada)?

Another interesting item is that the "Published in Canada" is a completely different font versus the rest of the book. Any ideas as to why?

One72guy (talk) 12:30, 23 March 2024 (EDT)

I assume you mean this one? If so, you didn't include any of that information in your note. Feel free to update the publication with that information, and then correct the publisher accordingly. My change was based on the notes you included stating that everything was done in Canada. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:12, 24 March 2024 (EDT)

Thanks for the reply. I will add the info as per your suggestion and I'll change the publisher back to Pocket Books until there's more knowledgeable information found regarding the real publisher. My guess is that Pocket Books got a Canadian company to do the printing, with a new cover and copyright page for Canada, (possibly PaperJacks) and then had it distributed by PaperJacks as per the statements on the title & copyright pages.

One72guy (talk) 23:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)

Sounds good. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:24, 25 March 2024 (EDT)

Baen Books/Baen and Toni Weisskopf

When you have a free moment, could you please review this discussion? TIA. Ahasuerus (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2024 (EDT)

Nahoko Uehashi's The Deer King

I am trying to figure out how Yen On's recent translations of this series map onto the Japanese originals, but I am not having much luck. The Wikipedia article says:

Kadokawa published the original novel in two volumes in September 2014, and then republished it in four reprinted volumes between June and July 2017.

As far as I can tell, Yen On reused the cover art from the first and the third volumes of the 2017 Kadokawa edition, but Wikipedia says that their 2 books map onto volumes 1 and 2. Also, these two books' Amazon.com's Look Inside files are for the manga version, but it appears to be an unrelated problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:02, 1 April 2024 (EDT)

I'll see what I can figure out. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:55, 2 April 2024 (EDT)

Thanks! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:06, 2 April 2024 (EDT)

Okay, I think I have it sorted out. See here. Let me know if anything looks confusing. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:09, 23 April 2024 (EDT)

Sir Gawain Introduction

Hi Nihonjoe -

You are the only other active verifier of a publication containing the introduction to Tolkien's translation of 3 medieval poems. Yours is in this collection. We currently have this introduction attributed to Christopher Tolkien. There is a note its several other appearances that state while Christopher signed the preface, the introduction and other essays are not signed and the attribution is from Locus (Perhaps this record though it could be from an issue). I'm about to enter the audio book of this title. It has the same essay, though it is split into three (before each poem), I've verified it against my paper copy. What is interesting is that the first two parts of the essay are specifically credited to J.R.R. Tolkien in the audio book. The third part just states it is an introduction to "Sir Orfeo" without an author attribution. I'm thinking our credit to Christopher for this essay is incorrect and I'm proposing changing it to J.R.R. giving the audio book as a source. However, if your book actually credits Christopher, then it is more complicated we'll have to decide who we think actually wrote the introduction. Could you check your copy and assuming that it appears without credit, let me know if you have any objections to this change. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 08:41, 21 April 2024 (EDT)

I can check when I get home tonight. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:09, 22 April 2024 (EDT)

Okay, I've carefully reviewed the book and updated the publication record. The introduction to Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is definitely by Christopher as the author mentions "my father" at least once in it. I will go and place a note on that title indicating that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:51, 23 April 2024 (EDT)

I'm going to push back slightly here. What you say about referring to "my father" is certainly true of the Preface which begins "When my father, Professor J. R. R. Tolkien...". While I have only skimmed the introduction, it never appears to go into first person. It begins "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and Pearl are both contained...". There are 6 sections with titles and Roman numerals. I just want to make sure you're not conflating the two essays. Thanks again. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 17:24, 23 April 2024 (EDT)

Page 241, second to last paragraph: "...are in accordance with my father's wishes." This is part of the Introduction. The Preface is pp. 225-227, so definitely the Introduction. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:57, 23 April 2024 (EDT)

Got it. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 18:35, 23 April 2024 (EDT)

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-== Starfire ==
+=== Fanzine de la SF Internationale No.27 ===
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5665530; It mentions Starfire logo on copyright page and second page says "Other Bantam Starfire Books you will enjoy" so this is a Starfire book but I'm not willing to argue about it. Here's a random Starfire book which mentions logo but not other books, https://archive.org/details/amongshadowstale00mont, and yet it's Starfire on ISFDB. So all these rejections are going to screw up standardizing publisher imprints and lead to many books being under the wrong publisher, but that's not my problem. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:20, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
+Since I found [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?983981 this fanzine] I've been wondering how the confusing contributions by user [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Antunes#Iskateli:_Fanzine_de_la_SF_Internationale Antunes] can be corrected. I did my very best. Unfortunately, only some of the pages are available as scans on the website of [https://nebulosafanzine.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/iskateli-fanzine-of-science-fiction-internacionale-n%c2%ba-27-summer-1986/ WordPress] and I'm not quite fluent in Japanese. :) Can You please have a look on that? Thank You! --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 16:22, 26 January 2024 (EST)
-:That's all true, but standard practice is to use what is on the title page, regardless of anything anywhere else. If all the other books are the same way, then they were entered incorrectly and will need to be corrected. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:55, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
-::I'm just going to mention that doing so would be a really bad idea, because there are thousands of publishers where imprint/publisher is used even when the publisher isn't on the title page. I don't think you can find a single one of the hundreds of Leisure Books post-1982 that are on ISFDB, and likely none of the non-genre books that aren't on here, that actually say Dorchester on the title page. The nightmare of going through every book on ISFDB that's by Leisure and Dorchester and changing them all to Leisure, having to contact all the PV of which there are very many, some of which have been gone for years, is not worth it. I believe only the 2 60s books and the very early 70s books can legitimately be standalone Leisure books, everything from then to 1981-1982 says published by Nordon and everything after that says published by Dorchester. So what needs to be done is for several people, since this is a pretty big job, to go through "Leisure Books" and change everything from 1982-on to Leisure and Dorchester, being careful with the earliest ones because I'm not sure when the exact switch to Dorchester happened; of the books by Leisure and Dorchester currently only 1 is probably wrong, 1980's Killer Satellites. I don't have any real interest in this stuff like many of you do and likely won't be editing here much longer but I'm telling you that you're going to open a can of worms if you try changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:46, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
-:::That's been the policy for as long as I can remember. If one (or more) is entered differently, it should be a rare exception and clearly documented in the notes as to why it's an exception. If you think the policy is wrong, then a discussion needs to happen on the Rules and Standards discussion page so all the details can be ironed out and everyone can be aware of the change (if any). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:06, 5 June 2023 (EDT)
-== Kurodahan Asamatsu ==
+== Japan SF Year Book ==
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5692125; After my edit's approved you might want to look at this since PV is gone and there could be some things to add/fix. EDIT: There's 1 other book by him, https://archive.org/search?query=ken+asamatsu, that I don't think is on ISFDB. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:18, 14 June 2023 (EDT)
+https://archive.org/search?query=%22japan-sf-year-book%22&sin=TXT; Not sure exactly what it covers but I don't think it's on ISFDB so if it qualifies you may want to enter it. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:35, 8 March 2024 (EST)
-:It's [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671748 already here] (since 2018), though he only has a short story in it. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:20, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
+:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1001058 Added]]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:43, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
-== Yu Miri  ==
+== Folklore Studies ==
-Hello,
+Hi Joe,
-When you have a chance can you figure out the originals of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?303045 Yu Miri]'s books and add the Japanese editions (and probably flip the canonical to her Japanese name). Tokyo Ueno Station is JR上野駅公園口 but I cannot find the "The End of August" original title so figured I will just ask you if you do not mind figuring out both and fixing the whole author. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:58, 27 June 2023 (EDT)
+Can you help finding the Japanese series and title and author name [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1000813 here]. Thanks in advance! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:53, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
-:{{Done}} Done [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?365846 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:26, 29 June 2023 (EDT)
+:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?72934 Done]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:10, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
-:: Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:42, 29 June 2023 (EDT)
+:: Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:11, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
-== "Rokusyou Usuasagi" -- one author or two? ==
+== Swan Song published in Canada ==
-Yen On has published [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3203968 this novel], which credits "Rokusyou • Usuasagi" on the cover and "Rokusyou and Usuasagi" on the title/copyright page. I have found and entered the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3203970 Japanese original], but I am not sure whether "緑青・薄浅黄" is one person or two. Would you happen to have a way of telling what's going on here? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:53, 2 July 2023 (EDT)
+Hello. I see that you have changed the Swan Song entry I added for the book published in Canada by changing the publisher to Pocket Books (Canada). The book's title page states "Published by Pocket Books New York" over "Distributed in Canada by PaperJacks Ltd., a Licensee of the trademarks of Simon & Schuster, Inc." and the copyright page states  "POCKET BOOKS, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc. 1230 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y.10020" above "In Canada distributed by PaperJacks Ltd., 330 Steelcase Road, Markham, Ontario". So, I'm not sure - do these two statements verify that the book was published by Pocket Books (Canada)?
-:It's two authors. I've cleaned it all up. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?70309 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 15:20, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
-:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:30, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
+Another interesting item is that the "Published in Canada" is a completely different font versus the rest of the book. Any ideas as to why?
-== Wikipedia-ish question about anonymous edits there ==
+[[User:One72guy|One72guy]] ([[User talk:One72guy|talk]]) 12:30, 23 March 2024 (EDT)
-Hi, I think you are or were active on Wikipedia?  Can I ask your opinion on something that's somewhat Wikipedia related?
+:I assume you mean [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1000402 this one]? If so, you didn't include any of that information in your note. Feel free to update the publication with that information, and then correct the publisher accordingly. My change was based on the notes you included stating that everything was done in Canada. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:12, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
-The [https://twitter.com/WCInMemoriam/status/1677711160005599232 Worldcon in Memoriam] Twitter account has just reported that artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25963 Peter Goodfellow] died on 2022-12-11.  Whilst I guess that account is somewhat official, and I've never seen it misreport anything before, I can't find any corroboration for that date in Google search results, or even that he's definitely passed away.
+::Thanks for the reply. I will add the info as per your suggestion and I'll change the publisher back to Pocket Books until there's more knowledgeable information found regarding the real publisher. My guess is that Pocket Books got a Canadian company to do the printing, with a new cover and copyright page for Canada, (possibly PaperJacks) and then had it distributed by PaperJacks as per the statements on the title & copyright pages.
+::[[User:One72guy|One72guy]] ([[User talk:One72guy|talk]]) 23:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
-The sole exception is that there was [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25963 a Feb 2023 edit] to his Wikipedia page, to say that he died some time in 2022.  The edit is just attributed to an IP address, which I assume is an unlogged in user.  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.242.253.69 That IP doesn't seem to be associated with any other edits.]
+:::Sounds good. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:24, 25 March 2024 (EDT)
-How trustworthy are such edits, in your opinion.  For something as potentially sensitive as deaths, I personally am reluctant to make an edit without a couple of moderately independent and trustworthy sources.  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 12:56, 8 July 2023 (EDT)
+== Baen Books/Baen and Toni Weisskopf ==
-: Never mind, just tried a different search term, and found [https://www.heraldscotland.com/memorials/death-notices/death/30510386.peter-george-goodfellow/ a death notice].  Although it has a middle name not in the DB here or Wikipedia, and says nothing about him being an artist, the location matches where the Wikipedia page said he lived.  Sorry for blathering on before thoroughly checking stuff :-( [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 13:03, 8 July 2023 (EDT)
-::Good find! Generally speaking, anonymous edits are just as acceptable on Wikipedia as logged-in edits, as long as a reliable source is used. That twitter account is likely more reliable than some others. Let me know if you have any other questions. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:05, 10 July 2023 (EDT)
-== Yumi and the Nightmare Painter ebook public release ==
+When you have a free moment, could you please review [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Baen_vs_Baen_Books_publishers_redux this discussion]? TIA. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:11, 27 March 2024 (EDT)
-You've PVed the Kickstarter epub [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?959610 here].  [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Project-Cosmere-Novel-Projects-ebook/dp/B0BPN9JT6M/ Amazon UK] and [https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/secret-project-3 Kobo (GB)] have ebooks with today's date.  (If those links don't work on your side of the Atlantic, I imagine there are similar ebooks on the respective US sites.)
+== Nahoko Uehashi's The Deer King ==
-Based on the content visible in the previews for those ebooks, they seem to be identical to what you've documented in your PV.  As such, I'm inclined to add the ASIN to that record, and note the later pub date for those site, and the fake Kobo ISBN of 1230006019518, as opposed to adding a second ebook record.  Does that seem reasonable to you?
+I am trying to figure out how Yen On's recent translations of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?71440 this series] map onto the Japanese originals, but I am not having much luck. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deer_King Wikipedia article] says:
+* Kadokawa published the original novel in two volumes in September 2014, and then republished it in four reprinted volumes between June and July 2017.
+As far as I can tell, Yen On reused the cover art from the first and the ''third'' volumes of the 2017 Kadokawa edition, but Wikipedia says that their 2 books map onto volumes 1 and 2. Also, these two books' Amazon.com's Look Inside files are for the manga version, but it appears to be an unrelated problem.
-I just checked back to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?955617 the previous secret project ebook], which I had a recollection of submitting.  It seems there was only an entry for the PDF ebook, which similarly was 10 days earlier than the "public" release.  Does that maybe merit similar changes if there was a Kickstarter version of that format?  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 09:24, 11 July 2023 (EDT)
+Any help would be greatly appreciated! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:02, 1 April 2024 (EDT)
-:I only have the Kickstarter versions, so I couldn't offer any insigt as to whether the UK releases are the same or different. If you don't have them, I'd suggest creating separate publications for the UK/Kobo releases. If they turn out to be identical, we can always combine them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:21, 11 July 2023 (EDT)
+:I'll see what I can figure out. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:55, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
-:: Sorry, I only just realized after looking at my local TODO list that I never responded to your response.  FWIW, these ebooks are published by Dragonsteel Enterprises, and I'm 99.99% certain they are identical between the UK and US - the ASIN is the same, so it would be weird if they aren't.  (The physical general market releases are from Tor (US) and Gollancz (UK), but IIRC they are a few weeks from release, at least [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?956710 the UK one] is.)  The Amazon.com page is [https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Project-Cosmere-Novel-Projects-ebook/dp/B0BPN9JT6M/ here], could you possibly take a quick look at the preview and see if it matches your copy?  Annoyingly the preview doesn't include the copyright page, which might settle the matter unambiguously.  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:48, 13 July 2023 (EDT)
-:::I spoke with the lead editor at Dragonsteel, and he said the releases are pretty much identical (some minor errors were fixed and some ads were added at the end). So yes, merge the Dragonsteel releases from the Amazons into the Kickstarter epub release (not the PDF release, as that one has page numbers and the epub does not). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:23, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
-:::: Much appreciate you going the extra mile on this one.  I'll sort it all out tonight, if only because I want the ASIN in the database before Saturday's download, and I can sync my local data against it.  Thanks again.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 13:48, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
-:::::No problem. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:40, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
-:::::: I guess you'll have received a PV notification, but I've just updated [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?959610 it].  Added extra para for with the Amazon etc details, plus ASIN and BN IDs.  Hopefully that's the end of it... at least until the next secret project comes out ;-) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:57, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
-== Guy Anthony ? ==
+:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:06, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
+:::Okay, I think I have it sorted out. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?71440 here]. Let me know if anything looks confusing. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:09, 23 April 2024 (EDT)
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?951203; All other works by DeMarco are as by De Marco; is this one really DeMarco or should it have a space? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:24, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
+== Sir Gawain Introduction ==
-:No idea. I don't have a copy of that. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:38, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
-:I take that back. The editor sent me a pic of the table of contents, where the name is "DeMarco", with no space. I've varianted it now. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:51, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
-== Tiny Dragons ==
+Hi Nihonjoe -
-Just heads up on an author disambiguation involving your verified: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2442532 here]. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:39, 31 July 2023 (EDT)
+You are the only other active verifier of a publication containing the {{T|1028474|introduction}} to Tolkien's translation of 3 medieval poems.  Yours is in {{P|296274|this collection}}.  We currently have this introduction attributed to Christopher Tolkien.  There is a note its several other appearances that state while Christopher signed the preface, the introduction and other essays are not signed and the attribution is from Locus (Perhaps [http://www.locusmag.com/index/t741.htm#A37112 this record] though it could be from an issue).  I'm about to enter the audio book of {{T|1752430|this title}}.  It has the same essay, though it is split into three (before each poem), I've verified it against my paper copy.  What is interesting is that the first two parts of the essay are specifically credited to J.R.R. Tolkien in the audio book.  The third part just states it is an introduction to "Sir Orfeo" without an author attribution.  I'm thinking our credit to Christopher for this essay is incorrect and I'm proposing changing it to J.R.R. giving the audio book as a source.  However, if your book actually credits Christopher, then it is more complicated we'll have to decide who we think actually wrote the introduction.  Could you check your copy and assuming that it appears without credit, let me know if you have any objections to this change.  Thanks for checking.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:41, 21 April 2024 (EDT)
-:Looks good. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:08, 4 August 2023 (EDT)
+:I can check when I get home tonight. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:09, 22 April 2024 (EDT)
+:Okay, I've carefully reviewed the book and updated [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?296274 the publication record]. The introduction to Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is definitely by Christopher as the author mentions "my father" at least once in it. I will go and place a note on that title indicating that. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 16:51, 23 April 2024 (EDT)
-== Mothra ==
+::I'm going to push back slightly here.  What you say about referring to "my father" is certainly true of the {{T|1028473|Preface}} which begins "When my father, Professor J. R. R. Tolkien...".  While I have only skimmed the introduction, it never appears to go into first person.  It begins "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and Pearl are both contained...".  There are 6 sections with titles and Roman numerals.  I just want to make sure you're not conflating the two essays.  Thanks again.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:24, 23 April 2024 (EDT)
+:::Page 241, second to last paragraph: "...are in accordance with my father's wishes." This is part of the Introduction. The Preface is pp. 225-227, so definitely the Introduction. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:57, 23 April 2024 (EDT)
-https://picclick.com/Sanrio-SF-Bunko-30A-Rosalind-ash-moth-174916262653.html; I'd been adding links and stuff to Rosalind Ashe novels when I came across that sale; beautiful cover that's not on any editions on ISFDB, so if you can find out more you may want to enter that edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:59, 3 August 2023 (EDT)
+::::Got it.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:35, 23 April 2024 (EDT)
-:Done [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3213364 here], and another one [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3213366 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:07, 4 August 2023 (EDT)
-== Goodnight, Mr. James ==
-Your verified {{P|948527|Robots Through the Ages}}, has {{T|3204545|Goodnight, Mr. James}} as a short story. There is a more widely appearing {{T|55235|Good Night, Mr. James}} as a novelette. Would you mind double checking the length of your version and, as appropriate, either update the length & variant or add a note indicating this is a truncated version? If you need to compare the text, the original magazine version is [https://archive.org/details/Galaxy_v01n06_-_1951-03/page/n65/mode/2up here]. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:29, 13 August 2023 (EDT)
-:I'll check. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:27, 17 August 2023 (EDT)
-::I did a full word count from the archived copy and got 7490. I did an estimated word count on the version in ''Robots Through the Ages'' and got 7412. I've updated the length to "short story" per that, and varianted the ''Robots Through the Ages'' title to the existing title. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:42, 23 August 2023 (EDT)
-== Genius Loci ==
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5740518; Page count, both Roman and regular, are off, and "editor's note" is really foreword. I didn't check page numbers or story titles or anything like that. Also, the reprint years later with a different cover is 350 pages shorter on here; that can't be right. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:08, 13 August 2023 (EDT)
-:I'll have to check my copy. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:25, 17 August 2023 (EDT)
-::Okay, these are all fixed. I updated the version I have, and split off the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3219467 newer anthology of the same name] as it only has 15 stories in it (despite the Amazon description). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:02, 23 August 2023 (EDT)
-== Shigeru Kayama  ==
-Hello Joe,
-Would you mind getting [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?367699 this author] sorted out? I found [https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Godzilla_and_Godzilla_Raids_Again this]. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:57, 18 August 2023 (EDT)
-:All done [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?344361 here]. I'm working on adding more of his works as there aren't very many included here yet. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:06, 21 August 2023 (EDT)
-:: Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:10, 21 August 2023 (EDT)
-== Surraoundings ==
-Hi, re your PV'd {{P|552093|pub here}}. Would you mind sorting out the typo in the canonical for "City of Adopest (map)"? Titles affected are [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=title_title&O_1=contains&TERM_1=City+of+Adopest&C=AND&USE_2=title_title&O_2=exact&TERM_2=&USE_3=title_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=title_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=title_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=title_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=title_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=title_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=title_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=title_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=title_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Title here]. (Btw, I've [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5755384 submitted] correction to one of the page counts) Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:40, 28 August 2023 (EDT)
-:It looks like that misspelling is from [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?433770 this publication], for which there are no PVs. Based on that, I assume it's a typo and have corrected it accordingly. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:45, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-::Thanks for sorting that, and I've submitted a merge for the two "City of Adopest and Surroundings (map)" titles. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:02, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-== Green Man ==
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5694041; All other books by the publisher are PB, that's why I changed it. A low-rent publisher like this wouldn't publish a TP, especially not in the 1940's. Also, one PV was transient and the other one had not left a message on their board since October of 2021 and just happened to start leaving messages again exactly 1 day before I made my edit. Here's a sale which calls it a paperback, digest size: https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Green-Man-Visitor-Space-Sherman-Harold/19181544857/bd. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:30, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-:All you wrote was "fixed format". That is neither clear nor helpful as we can't read your mind. As you've been asked many, many times before, you need to include all of this information ''with'' your submission. I've approved it now. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:41, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-::Why would I need to include anything? Click on the publisher and you can see for yourself. Is that so hard to do? Do I really need to tell you to do that? Do you think I just changed it because I felt like it? Has my edit really been sitting around for months because none of you mods can click a link? Did none of you notice that one of the PV was transient and wouldn't have the book anymore and the other one hadn't responded to anything in a couple of years and just happened to come back exactly at the same time I made my edit? Am I psychic and should have known that would happen and left them a message telling them I changed the format even though they should have known what the format really was because the other 2 books by the publisher that are PV were done before this guy's PV and they both entered it correctly as a PB paperback? I'm in the business (among many other things) of fixing the countless mistakes that were made here in the nearly 15 years that public editing was going on before I started; mistakes that apparently no one noticed or cared enough to fix because most of you abandoned print books long ago and just enter e-books now. So I'm doing my best to fix (and add) as much as I can until I decide to stop doing this; try being grateful instead of complaining about something as utterly trivial as this. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:05, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-:::If you had included a simple "All other books by the publisher are PB, so it's unlikely this one was TP", that would have worked. Work with us, and we'll work with you. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:45, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
-::::Are you purposely trying to annoy me? I'll say this again, this publisher only has 5 books on ISFDB, all others are PB, PV of this one made a very common mistake and entered TP for PB, I've corrected countless numbers of those, many of which you approved, I'm sure, or sometimes PB is wrongly entered instead of TP. There's an enormous amount of fixes needed for the print books on this site, many of which were entered incompletely and then never followed up on by anyone, others that were entered with wrong info that a mod approved without double-checking the info to make sure it was right, and I've tried my best to correct what I can, although I'm sure even after more than 2 1/2 years of doing this nearly every day I still have only corrected less than 1% of the mistakes here. I'm not here to hold your hands and walk you through every step, especially since most of you have been here far longer than me, most of the other people here don't answer anything I ask on the message boards or when they do they answer with sarcasm or weird non-answers or the usual stuff about being sick/moving/unpacking/I don't care about this site anymore because I'm mad at someone else on the site, or they answer with anger at daring to suggest they made a mistake about something; I see hundreds of messages on Community Portal right now with no name except my own. I still can't believe some of the recent edits that have been sitting in my list that took forever for someone to finally approve for the most ridiculous of reasons, from adding Roman numerals to page counts (which many PV forget to enter or didn't know they were supposed to enter) or this one which was patently obvious or the Ramsey Campbell one adding a cover to a PB that sat there for months for some unknown reason. The ingratitude here is really something else; all the work I've done to correct the mistakes you and everyone else made before I got here, not to mention all the additions I've made, and all you can do is complain about something that would have been taken care of in a couple of seconds by clicking a link that's right there on the edit page. Or, now that I think of it, when the first mod who looked at this one long ago, probably RTrace, didn't feel like clicking the link he could have left a message saying "I'm not sure about this one" and then I would have responded with some version of what I wrote above about the publisher and the edit would have been approved shortly afterwards. You know what? I had already made up my mind before your rejections that tomorrow was going to be my last day for a while, I plan on not doing this in September and then coming back in October for the Halloween season to add as many horror-related edits as I can, and after that, who knows? This is all so pointless, anyway, because the site has largely shifted to e-books and awards and Amazon links that bring in cash for clicks; most of my nearly 60,000 edits have probably never been looked at by anyone after they were approved and probably never will be. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:09, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
-:::::Okay. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:19, 1 September 2023 (EDT)
-== ...Sunset ==
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5702805; Because there's archived links to 2 editions and another is on Amazon (there's a $300 edition but nobody's going to have that). I don't believe I would have changed the title unless it was wrong in the books themselves. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:34, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-:Where are the archived links? You didn't include them in your submission, and you didn't include them here? Please provide them so we can verify the information. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:47, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-::The archived links are in the editions' records, both added by me earlier this year. They say "archive.org" on the page; that means there's an archived link to the book. Click on them and you'll see, like I did but not anyone else, apparently, that one of the titles was entered wrong here and so I fixed it. EDIT: [https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/31548137177_2.jpg]; There's the title page where the story first appeared which also says "On Sunset" regardless of what the careless publication history in Power's collection says which is probably where the incorrect "At Sunset" was taken from. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:07, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
-:::Then [[User talk:Markwood|contact the PV]] and ask them to check their copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?633727 the book] and update the entry. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:53, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
-== 1634: The Bavarian Crisis ==
-The Pages field for your verified publication [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?207873 1634: The Bavarian Crisis] currently shows '[x]+690+[3]'. I initially approved a submission removing the brackets from the Roman numeral (subsequently reversed). Per the help, we enter the Roman numeral for the highest numbered page. Hence, brackets can never be correct. However, I own a copy of the first edition, there are no Roman numerals in my copy. In my opinion, the correct entry for Pages is '690+[3]'. Do you agree? If not, why? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:53, 9 September 2023 (EDT)