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== 1634: The Bavarian Crisis ==
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== Niven/Pournelle/Flynn's Fallen Angels and Dream Park Universe ==
  
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The Pages field for your verified publication [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?207873 1634: The Bavarian Crisis] currently shows '[x]+690+[3]'. I initially approved a submission removing the brackets from the Roman numeral (subsequently reversed). Per the help, we enter the Roman numeral for the highest numbered page. Hence, brackets can never be correct. However, I own a copy of the first edition, there are no Roman numerals in my copy. In my opinion, the correct entry for Pages is '690+[3]'. Do you agree? If not, why? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:53, 9 September 2023 (EDT)
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Hi, in a review, [https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/really-cant-stay James Davis Nicoll] is dubious that Fallen Angels is part of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?39707 Dream Park Universe].  The series membership seems to be down to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?2755028 a July 2015 edit of yours]. (FWIW [[User_talk:Nihonjoe/Archive_2]] covers that period, but I don't see any relevant talk items.
  
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Same for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260548 The Dreeson Incident] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?327545 1635: The Eastern Front].
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As I've not read any of the works in question, I don't have a dog in this "fight", but just raising it in case you can recall any explanatory details that might be worth putting in a title or series note?  Thanks. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 11:51, 11 January 2024 (EST)
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:I'll see if I can find the source. I'm sure I wouldn't have added it if I didn't have a reason. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 21:19, 12 January 2024 (EST)
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::Well, after a bit of looking around, I can't find anything that indicates it's in the Dream Park universe, so I've removed it. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:12, 16 January 2024 (EST)
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::: Thanks! [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:09, 16 January 2024 (EST)
  
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After looking at all the first printings up through [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?724653 1636: The China Venture], I think the proper way to account for the maps is an unnumbered Arabic sequence. I'll be glad to verify them after we reach agreement. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:16, 9 September 2023 (EDT)
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== Bloodwars ==
  
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:For [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260548 The Dreeson Incident] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?327545 1635: The Eastern Front], I removed the brackets as the notes don't indicate anything about the pages being unnumbered but referenced in the table of contents. I think [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?207873 1634: The Bavarian Crisis] should be left as is since it does have a note indicating the pages are unnumbered but referenced in the table of contents. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:37, 12 September 2023 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5737123; PV finally responded and agreed that it's Roc. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:44, 12 January 2024 (EST)
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:Approved. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 21:20, 12 January 2024 (EST)
  
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::I don't follow your line of reasoning.
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== Sacred Seven ==
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::* Publication pages field: Where does the help section support the use of Roman numerals for a publication which has no pages with Roman numerals?
 
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::* Content titles page field: If there are no Roman numerals in the pages field, how can the content titles have a Roman numeral? You mention pub notes referring to the publication's contents page. Wouldn't that contradict this statement from the help? "Caution: Do not use the table of contents to determine the page numbers of a publication's contents."
 
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:: Here is [https://isfdb.org/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/163x_analysis.jpg/800px-163x_analysis.jpg my analysis] of the above two fields for numbers 2-28 (hc except for the 3 only printed in tp) in the 163x series. Note, correct in this analysis is determined by using Bullet point 3 [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Pages here.]
 
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::* "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages. There is no need to record these unnumbered pages if they contain no content that needs to be recorded. At times you will need to count backwards from the first numbered page to see which is page 1 and then would count the unnumbered pages that are before this. Likewise, you may record the count of unnumbered pages at the end of a publication. For example, 320+[4]. As before, only do this if there is additional content in these pages that requires the creation of a content record, as when there is an afterword or book excerpt which appears on unnumbered pages."
 
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:: A couple of your verified publications do use the method I consider correct. Since you, [[User:Philfreund]] and I are the only active verifiers, I'll invite him to participate here. Thanks for your time, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:39, 13 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::I also don't understand your use of Roman numerals where the only place they exist is in the ToC. I agree with John's points above. His second point about the content titles explicitly forbidding the use of the ToC for page numbering surely points for the need to have consistency in the pages field contents, even if not currently explicitly stated. There also definitely needs to be a note in each publication record where this situation exists since it's such an anomaly. The Help for the pages field should be updated to cover this situation. Looking at John's analysis, I need to go back and fix some of the publications where I am sole active PV; I'm not sure how I missed them the first time through. Thanks. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:02, 14 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::If page numbers are given in the TOC, even if the pages themselves aren't numbered, I consider them numbered. There are some books that just don't number things prior to page 1, but I've seen a few (like this one) that have the page numbers given in the TOC but not on the actual pages. Why wouldn't we use the page numbers given in the TOC for that? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:55, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::Perhaps a discussion needs to be opened on the [[Rules and standards discussions]] page so this can be sorted out. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:56, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::: I was about to recommend that when I saw your second post. For now, do you agree with Phil and I correcting the publications which do not comply with present standards? There are 12 more, in the above analysis, that I would like to add my PV. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 13:09, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::Let's leave ''1634: The Bavarian Crisis'' alone for now, but any of the others I don't have are fine to correct. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:10, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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<br>Followed here from [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Standards_question_has_reached_an_impasse this post]
 
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<br>I have sympathies with both sides in this discussion.
 
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<br>A) The Nihonjoe camp (use the Roman numeral from the ToC):
 
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<br>The Help statement: "Caution: Do not use the table of contents to determine the page numbers of a publication's contents." is presumably intended to apply to the situation where a page number is stated in the ToC and a different page number is stated (or is derivable by counting forwards / backwards) on the page on which the contents begin. However, the scenario that has been raised with 1634: The Bavarian Crisis is different. Here, a page number is stated in the ToC but the page number on the page on which the contents begin IS NULL (and is not derivable by counting forwards / backwards). Consider a hypothetical situation in which the title of a piece of Shortfiction is stated in the ToC but the publisher completely omits the title on the page on which the contents begin. It would be daft to record this piece of Shortfiction as having a null title (even assuming the ISFDb software permitted it). In such a case we would use the title from a secondary source and using the title from the ToC seems sensible. This analogy supports using a Roman numeral page number stated in the ToC for the scenario under discussion.
 
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<br>B) The Scifibones / Philfreund camp (use Arabic numerals in square brackets):
 
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<br>However, from the other side of the fence, the ISFDb rules already have a method for assigning page numbers to unnumbered pages that are not derivable by counting forwards / backwards, namely, the use of Arabic numerals in square brackets. So we don't need to resort to a secondary source for the page number and my analogy above regarding the null title breaks down. The way Pages are denoted in the ISFDb is already horrendously complicated and if we adopt option A) we introduce further complications and also open other cans of worms. Example 1): Should the Roman numeral be enclosed in square brackets? This is currently not supported in the ISFDb rules but I can envisage someone making a case for it to be introduced if we adopt option A). Example 2) Suppose a map is on an unnumbered page that is derivable by counting backwards (page 4, say) but the ToC lists it on page iv? What do we do? More complications. More Help notes required.
 
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<br>Weighing up all the above, I vote for option B) (use Arabic numerals in square brackets).  Whichever way it does go, i) the Help notes need updating to clarify what to do and ii) a pub note definitely needs to be added to explain the discrepancy and the Help notes should state this. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:42, 16 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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:I think there's some confusion here. As noted at the top of the discussion, "[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?207873 1634: The Bavarian Crisis] currently shows '[x]+690+[3]'". What Scifibones and Philfreund are suggesting is that we shouldn't be using the roman numerals at all because the pages themselves don't have any roman numerals. I'm suggesting that we should use the roman numerals as given in the TOC because they are given there (despite not being on the actual pages). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:36, 18 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I do not understand why you think there is some confusion. I agree with your statement above regarding what topic we are discussing. That is what I addressed in my previous post. In my opinion, we should not use Roman numerals when there are no pages with printed Roman numerals. The fact that the ToC may quote Roman numerals is irrelevant. I explained the reasons for my view in my previous post. I have found and looked at the hardcover of 1634: The Bavarian Crisis on [https://archive.org/details/1634bavariancris00flin archive.org]. Pages should be [10]+690+[3] and in the Contents section the Start Page of the maps should be [8]. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:35, 19 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Well, I disagree with that. If we have something in the publication telling us what page number something is, we should use it, especially in cases where there's no other source. Perhaps this needs to be taken to the [[Rules and standards discussions]]? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:54, 27 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::We could even incorporate the discussion that's [[Rules and standards discussions#Pages - help screens and templates|already there]]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:00, 27 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::I agree it should be moved there but have no idea how that's done so we don't lose what's already been discussed. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 21:59, 27 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::There is no need to move this to the Rules and standards discussion page. The circumstance where the actual pages are unnumbered but numbering (whether Roman or Arabic) is given in the ToC is <b>clearly covered</b>.
 
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:::::As John pointed out in his post above (* Content titles page field:), "Caution: Do not use the table of contents to determine the page numbers of a publication's contents.".
 
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:::::If there is a discrepancy between the actual numbering, or lack of, on the page and that given in the ToC, then that should be recorded in the notes.
 
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:::::Why or how is this not clear? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 17:46, 28 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::If the table of contents is the only source of the page numbers, I think it's fine to use what it says. That cautionary note is because there have been many instances where a ToC hasn't been updated with correct page numbers for content within a book (such as stories or essays), so going with the actual page numbers for those is what should be done. I don't think it was meant to be applied in cases such as this where the pages themselves don't have page numbers on them, but the ToC clearly shows there are page numbers for them. That's why I'm arguing for using those page numbers in this case, and I included a note to that effect in the publication in question. Your interpretation is why I think this needs to be discussed at R&S. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:51, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
 
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<br>You have had over a month to show something in the help section supporting the use of Roman numerals when there are no Roman numerals in a publication.
 
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* Excerpt from moderator qualifications. "'''Good intentions'''.  A moderator must be someone who is willing to work to improve the ISFDB, and comply with the consensus gained on the ISFDB Wiki on the resolution of various bibliographic debates.".
 
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Since everyone disagrees with you, it's time for you to relent. I'd like to correct and verify the publications identified in the above analysis. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:10, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?293963 Terri Karsten] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?341030 Terri Karston] ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28719; While adding Archive.org link I noticed artist is just Donato on copyright page, one of his alternate names, so it should probably be entered as such and made a variant of his parent name. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:24, 14 January 2024 (EST)
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:I'll check my copy. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:39, 15 January 2024 (EST)
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:Updated, and your submission has been approved, too. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:48, 15 January 2024 (EST)
  
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Hi, Joe! It may be that the two authors are one and the same person. Since you are the sole verifier for a publication featuring the latter: could you take a look if there's a hint for the relation? Thanks, Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 04:50, 13 September 2023 (EDT)
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== Father Christmas Goes to Work ==
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:Fixed. Just a typo. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:53, 26 September 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Donald Trump Anthology ==
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Hi Nihonjoe -
  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?715417; You entered the title incorrectly; there's no comma after Walls. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:59, 19 September 2023 (EDT)
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Could I get you to double check the title of the last story in {{P|497064|Dragons at Crumbling Castle and Other Tales}}.  We have it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work".  However, the audio book has it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work at the Zoo".  I had a look at the Amazon look inside features and the {{P|464952|UK edition}} has the longer title in the TOC, whereas for your edition the TOC has the shorter title.  If the title page of your copy matches the TOC with the shorter title, then I think we're going to have to make a variant.  If not, we can simply merge with {{T|2307213|this title}}.  There is one other verifier of the UK edition who last edited on December 11.  I'll leave a note on their talk page as well, but I don't know that we'll receive a response.  Thanks for checking.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:48, 26 January 2024 (EST)
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:Fixed. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:06, 25 September 2023 (EDT)
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:I'll take a look. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:27, 27 January 2024 (EST)
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:The title page for the story has the shorter title, so I made the shorter title a variant of the longer title. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:52, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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::Thanks so much for checking. I got a response from the verifier of the UK edition and it appears that only the US editions with the exception of the audio book use the shorter title.  I'll take care of swapping out the publications that need it.  Thanks again. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:36, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:::Sounds good. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:54, 30 January 2024 (EST)
  
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== Maurice Sendak: A Celebration of the Artist and His Work ==
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== [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?983981 Iskateli: Fanzine de la SF Internationale]: some (or all) things are seriously wrong ==
  
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Does {{P|929530|Maurice Sendak: A Celebration of the Artist and His Work}} really have two covers? There is nothing in the notes and the second title makes its sound like interior art? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:20, 15 October 2023 (EDT)
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Hello, Joe! Since you approved of the submission for that magazine / nonfiction, could you please help in getting this record corrected? Please add comments or advice within [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Antunes#Iskateli%3A_Fanzine_de_la_SF_Internationale this discussion item]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 14:28, 26 January 2024 (EST)
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:IIRC, it's the back cover, which is a completely different work than the front cover. I can check it when I get home, if you want. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:15, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
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:Sure. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:31, 27 January 2024 (EST)
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:Also, I remember the titles of the pieces being given within the book. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:46, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Brotherhood of Mt. Shasta ==
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=== Fanzine de la SF Internationale No.27 ===
  
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https://archive.org/details/isbn_9784199060410; Japanese translation of this novel, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1389888, in case you want to enter it. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:02, 15 October 2023 (EDT)
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Since I found [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?983981 this fanzine] I've been wondering how the confusing contributions by user [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Antunes#Iskateli:_Fanzine_de_la_SF_Internationale Antunes] can be corrected. I did my very best. Unfortunately, only some of the pages are available as scans on the website of [https://nebulosafanzine.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/iskateli-fanzine-of-science-fiction-internacionale-n%c2%ba-27-summer-1986/ WordPress] and I'm not quite fluent in Japanese. :) Can You please have a look on that? Thank You! --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 16:22, 26 January 2024 (EST)
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3236187 Done]! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:44, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
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== Harlequin Butterfly ==
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When you have a chance, can you see if you can find the original title of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?991901 this novella]? Thanks!
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PS: It looks like we have a few more stories without parents for this author. Not sure how easy it will be to chase them down but if you have the time and desire to, the author page can use some help :). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:05, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:https://archive.org/search?query=%E6%80%AA%E7%8D%A3%E3%82%B4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A9&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22; While looking up the author I saw his Godzilla novel, clicked the series link, saw a 1954 book, cut-and-pasted the title on Archive.org, and got the above-linked book. I don't know if that's a novelization of Gojira or what but if so or something similar maybe you might find it worthy of entering here (if it's not already). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:18, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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::It looks like that archive.org link is for a Chinese version of something related to Godzilla. I don't read Chinese (except for a very few characters), so I don't know what that is. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:The butterfly title is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3277321 here]. I've merged/varianted everything. I'll see what I can do about his other works. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:07, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:: Ah, that was quick. Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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== The Mummy ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?976311; Dot after Kevin J. Kennedy's first name prevents story from being in the same record as his others. I didn't check any other contents but you might want to see if there's anything else that needs fixing. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:18, 3 February 2024 (EST)
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:Fixed. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 15:19, 4 February 2024 (EST)
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== Shadowdance ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930940; https://vaultofevil.proboards.com/thread/670/vampy-crew?page=3; Artist's first name is spelled differently at the Vault of Evil link and she is probably the same as this artist, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56801, price is different on cover, other piece of fiction supposedly by Ed Hyuck but probably this guy, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224679, lots of poetry, etc. So the author who gave the info may need contacting to verify or add things if you can get a hold of him. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:34, 4 February 2024 (EST)
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:I have no idea how to reach Kervin. And I gree that it's possibly the same artist for those two, but I don't have any way to find out. I've corrected the other things, though. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 15:26, 4 February 2024 (EST)
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== Tress of the Emerald Sea ==
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Hi Joe,
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Can you look at the two interior art records by Howard Lyon [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?936493 here]? They (or at least one of them) need disambiguation of some type -- [2] for example. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:40, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:Fixed. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:58, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:: Thanks! I suspect you have no way to check if one of these matches the single record from the rest of the editions :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:16, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:::Are you talking about [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3165837 this one]? If so, the Tor editions do not contain all of the illustrations found in the Kickstarter edition. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:18, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:::: That's the one. We need some notes around that in all these records I think. And I think I will disconnect the Bulgarian edition out from all of them until I get better idea of what they did use actually. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:53, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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::::: I added a note [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3165837 here] so that should be enough to keep things separate. Thanks for checking and for the explanation about the difference. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 21:17, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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::::::No problem. I have the Kickstarter editions as well as the Tor hardcover, so if you have any questions bout them, let me know. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:33, 7 February 2024 (EST)
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== Help:Contents ==
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Joe, please reverse the change in background color [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Contents here] Blue print on a blue background is harder for me to read. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:15, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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: Maybe a complimentary color? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:38, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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::How about now? It's a much lighter blue. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 10:31, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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::: Works for me. Thank you, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:18, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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::::You're welcome! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 11:21, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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== Low Port ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?179605; PENDING archived link, noticed other edition has count as 354+[14] because of unnumbered pages at the end, should this edition be the same? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:28, 22 February 2024 (EST)
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== Inverted Kingdom ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5901230; After approval you might want to check if anything else needs fixing/adding. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:26, 27 February 2024 (EST)
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== Briar Rose ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5454
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hiya i'm asking the active pvs for this one if they mind if I change the pages field to take into account the extra stuff listed in the contents.  cheers from Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 09:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)
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:Sounds good to me. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)
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== Japan SF Year Book ==
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https://archive.org/search?query=%22japan-sf-year-book%22&sin=TXT; Not sure exactly what it covers but I don't think it's on ISFDB so if it qualifies you may want to enter it. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:35, 8 March 2024 (EST)
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1001058 Added]]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:43, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
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== Folklore Studies ==
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Hi Joe,
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Can you help finding the Japanese series and title and author name [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1000813 here]. Thanks in advance! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:53, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?72934 Done]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:10, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
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:: Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:11, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
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== Swan Song published in Canada ==
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Hello. I see that you have changed the Swan Song entry I added for the book published in Canada by changing the publisher to Pocket Books (Canada). The book's title page states "Published by Pocket Books New York" over "Distributed in Canada by PaperJacks Ltd., a Licensee of the trademarks of Simon & Schuster, Inc." and the copyright page states  "POCKET BOOKS, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc. 1230 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y.10020" above "In Canada distributed by PaperJacks Ltd., 330 Steelcase Road, Markham, Ontario". So, I'm not sure - do these two statements verify that the book was published by Pocket Books (Canada)?
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Another interesting item is that the "Published in Canada" is a completely different font versus the rest of the book. Any ideas as to why?
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[[User:One72guy|One72guy]] ([[User talk:One72guy|talk]]) 12:30, 23 March 2024 (EDT)
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:I assume you mean [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1000402 this one]? If so, you didn't include any of that information in your note. Feel free to update the publication with that information, and then correct the publisher accordingly. My change was based on the notes you included stating that everything was done in Canada. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:12, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
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::Thanks for the reply. I will add the info as per your suggestion and I'll change the publisher back to Pocket Books until there's more knowledgeable information found regarding the real publisher. My guess is that Pocket Books got a Canadian company to do the printing, with a new cover and copyright page for Canada, (possibly PaperJacks) and then had it distributed by PaperJacks as per the statements on the title & copyright pages.
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::[[User:One72guy|One72guy]] ([[User talk:One72guy|talk]]) 23:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
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:::Sounds good. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:24, 25 March 2024 (EDT)
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== Baen Books/Baen and Toni Weisskopf ==
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When you have a free moment, could you please review [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Baen_vs_Baen_Books_publishers_redux this discussion]? TIA. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:11, 27 March 2024 (EDT)
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== Nahoko Uehashi's The Deer King ==
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I am trying to figure out how Yen On's recent translations of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?71440 this series] map onto the Japanese originals, but I am not having much luck. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deer_King Wikipedia article] says:
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* Kadokawa published the original novel in two volumes in September 2014, and then republished it in four reprinted volumes between June and July 2017.
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As far as I can tell, Yen On reused the cover art from the first and the ''third'' volumes of the 2017 Kadokawa edition, but Wikipedia says that their 2 books map onto volumes 1 and 2. Also, these two books' Amazon.com's Look Inside files are for the manga version, but it appears to be an unrelated problem.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:02, 1 April 2024 (EDT)
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:I'll see what I can figure out. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:55, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:06, 2 April 2024 (EDT)

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Niven/Pournelle/Flynn's Fallen Angels and Dream Park Universe

Hi, in a review, James Davis Nicoll is dubious that Fallen Angels is part of Dream Park Universe. The series membership seems to be down to a July 2015 edit of yours. (FWIW User_talk:Nihonjoe/Archive_2 covers that period, but I don't see any relevant talk items.

As I've not read any of the works in question, I don't have a dog in this "fight", but just raising it in case you can recall any explanatory details that might be worth putting in a title or series note? Thanks. ErsatzCulture (talk) 11:51, 11 January 2024 (EST)

I'll see if I can find the source. I'm sure I wouldn't have added it if I didn't have a reason. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:19, 12 January 2024 (EST)
Well, after a bit of looking around, I can't find anything that indicates it's in the Dream Park universe, so I've removed it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:12, 16 January 2024 (EST)
Thanks! ErsatzCulture (talk) 17:09, 16 January 2024 (EST)

Bloodwars

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5737123; PV finally responded and agreed that it's Roc. --Username (talk) 17:44, 12 January 2024 (EST)

Approved. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:20, 12 January 2024 (EST)

Sacred Seven

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28719; While adding Archive.org link I noticed artist is just Donato on copyright page, one of his alternate names, so it should probably be entered as such and made a variant of his parent name. --Username (talk) 21:24, 14 January 2024 (EST)

I'll check my copy. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:39, 15 January 2024 (EST)
Updated, and your submission has been approved, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:48, 15 January 2024 (EST)

Father Christmas Goes to Work

Hi Nihonjoe -

Could I get you to double check the title of the last story in Dragons at Crumbling Castle and Other Tales. We have it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work". However, the audio book has it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work at the Zoo". I had a look at the Amazon look inside features and the UK edition has the longer title in the TOC, whereas for your edition the TOC has the shorter title. If the title page of your copy matches the TOC with the shorter title, then I think we're going to have to make a variant. If not, we can simply merge with this title. There is one other verifier of the UK edition who last edited on December 11. I'll leave a note on their talk page as well, but I don't know that we'll receive a response. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 06:48, 26 January 2024 (EST)

I'll take a look. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:27, 27 January 2024 (EST)
The title page for the story has the shorter title, so I made the shorter title a variant of the longer title. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:52, 29 January 2024 (EST)
Thanks so much for checking. I got a response from the verifier of the UK edition and it appears that only the US editions with the exception of the audio book use the shorter title. I'll take care of swapping out the publications that need it. Thanks again. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:36, 29 January 2024 (EST)
Sounds good. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:54, 30 January 2024 (EST)

Iskateli: Fanzine de la SF Internationale: some (or all) things are seriously wrong

Hello, Joe! Since you approved of the submission for that magazine / nonfiction, could you please help in getting this record corrected? Please add comments or advice within this discussion item. Christian Stonecreek (talk) 14:28, 26 January 2024 (EST)

Sure. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:31, 27 January 2024 (EST)

Fanzine de la SF Internationale No.27

Since I found this fanzine I've been wondering how the confusing contributions by user Antunes can be corrected. I did my very best. Unfortunately, only some of the pages are available as scans on the website of WordPress and I'm not quite fluent in Japanese. :) Can You please have a look on that? Thank You! --Zapp (talk) 16:22, 26 January 2024 (EST)

Harlequin Butterfly

Hello Joe,

When you have a chance, can you see if you can find the original title of this novella? Thanks!

PS: It looks like we have a few more stories without parents for this author. Not sure how easy it will be to chase them down but if you have the time and desire to, the author page can use some help :). Thanks! Annie (talk) 17:05, 29 January 2024 (EST)

https://archive.org/search?query=%E6%80%AA%E7%8D%A3%E3%82%B4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A9&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22; While looking up the author I saw his Godzilla novel, clicked the series link, saw a 1954 book, cut-and-pasted the title on Archive.org, and got the above-linked book. I don't know if that's a novelization of Gojira or what but if so or something similar maybe you might find it worthy of entering here (if it's not already). --Username (talk) 17:18, 29 January 2024 (EST)
It looks like that archive.org link is for a Chinese version of something related to Godzilla. I don't read Chinese (except for a very few characters), so I don't know what that is. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)
The butterfly title is here. I've merged/varianted everything. I'll see what I can do about his other works. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:07, 29 January 2024 (EST)
Ah, that was quick. Thanks! :) Annie (talk) 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)

The Mummy

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?976311; Dot after Kevin J. Kennedy's first name prevents story from being in the same record as his others. I didn't check any other contents but you might want to see if there's anything else that needs fixing. --Username (talk) 22:18, 3 February 2024 (EST)

Fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:19, 4 February 2024 (EST)

Shadowdance

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930940; https://vaultofevil.proboards.com/thread/670/vampy-crew?page=3; Artist's first name is spelled differently at the Vault of Evil link and she is probably the same as this artist, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56801, price is different on cover, other piece of fiction supposedly by Ed Hyuck but probably this guy, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224679, lots of poetry, etc. So the author who gave the info may need contacting to verify or add things if you can get a hold of him. --Username (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2024 (EST)

I have no idea how to reach Kervin. And I gree that it's possibly the same artist for those two, but I don't have any way to find out. I've corrected the other things, though. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:26, 4 February 2024 (EST)

Tress of the Emerald Sea

Hi Joe,

Can you look at the two interior art records by Howard Lyon here? They (or at least one of them) need disambiguation of some type -- [2] for example. :) Thanks! Annie (talk) 11:40, 6 February 2024 (EST)

Fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:58, 6 February 2024 (EST)
Thanks! I suspect you have no way to check if one of these matches the single record from the rest of the editions :) Annie (talk) 15:16, 6 February 2024 (EST)
Are you talking about this one? If so, the Tor editions do not contain all of the illustrations found in the Kickstarter edition. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:18, 6 February 2024 (EST)
That's the one. We need some notes around that in all these records I think. And I think I will disconnect the Bulgarian edition out from all of them until I get better idea of what they did use actually. Thanks! Annie (talk) 20:53, 6 February 2024 (EST)
I added a note here so that should be enough to keep things separate. Thanks for checking and for the explanation about the difference. Annie (talk) 21:17, 6 February 2024 (EST)
No problem. I have the Kickstarter editions as well as the Tor hardcover, so if you have any questions bout them, let me know. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:33, 7 February 2024 (EST)

Help:Contents

Joe, please reverse the change in background color here Blue print on a blue background is harder for me to read. Thanks, John Scifibones 08:15, 14 February 2024 (EST)

Maybe a complimentary color? John Scifibones 09:38, 14 February 2024 (EST)
How about now? It's a much lighter blue. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:31, 14 February 2024 (EST)
Works for me. Thank you, John Scifibones 11:18, 14 February 2024 (EST)
You're welcome! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 11:21, 14 February 2024 (EST)

Low Port

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?179605; PENDING archived link, noticed other edition has count as 354+[14] because of unnumbered pages at the end, should this edition be the same? --Username (talk) 09:28, 22 February 2024 (EST)

Inverted Kingdom

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5901230; After approval you might want to check if anything else needs fixing/adding. --Username (talk) 00:26, 27 February 2024 (EST)

Briar Rose

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5454

hiya i'm asking the active pvs for this one if they mind if I change the pages field to take into account the extra stuff listed in the contents. cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 09:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Sounds good to me. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Japan SF Year Book

https://archive.org/search?query=%22japan-sf-year-book%22&sin=TXT; Not sure exactly what it covers but I don't think it's on ISFDB so if it qualifies you may want to enter it. --Username (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2024 (EST)

Added]. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:43, 24 March 2024 (EDT)

Folklore Studies

Hi Joe,

Can you help finding the Japanese series and title and author name here. Thanks in advance! Annie (talk) 19:53, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:10, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
Thanks! Annie (talk) 20:11, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

Swan Song published in Canada

Hello. I see that you have changed the Swan Song entry I added for the book published in Canada by changing the publisher to Pocket Books (Canada). The book's title page states "Published by Pocket Books New York" over "Distributed in Canada by PaperJacks Ltd., a Licensee of the trademarks of Simon & Schuster, Inc." and the copyright page states "POCKET BOOKS, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc. 1230 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y.10020" above "In Canada distributed by PaperJacks Ltd., 330 Steelcase Road, Markham, Ontario". So, I'm not sure - do these two statements verify that the book was published by Pocket Books (Canada)?

Another interesting item is that the "Published in Canada" is a completely different font versus the rest of the book. Any ideas as to why?

One72guy (talk) 12:30, 23 March 2024 (EDT)

I assume you mean this one? If so, you didn't include any of that information in your note. Feel free to update the publication with that information, and then correct the publisher accordingly. My change was based on the notes you included stating that everything was done in Canada. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:12, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
Thanks for the reply. I will add the info as per your suggestion and I'll change the publisher back to Pocket Books until there's more knowledgeable information found regarding the real publisher. My guess is that Pocket Books got a Canadian company to do the printing, with a new cover and copyright page for Canada, (possibly PaperJacks) and then had it distributed by PaperJacks as per the statements on the title & copyright pages.
One72guy (talk) 23:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
Sounds good. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:24, 25 March 2024 (EDT)

Baen Books/Baen and Toni Weisskopf

When you have a free moment, could you please review this discussion? TIA. Ahasuerus (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2024 (EDT)

Nahoko Uehashi's The Deer King

I am trying to figure out how Yen On's recent translations of this series map onto the Japanese originals, but I am not having much luck. The Wikipedia article says:

  • Kadokawa published the original novel in two volumes in September 2014, and then republished it in four reprinted volumes between June and July 2017.

As far as I can tell, Yen On reused the cover art from the first and the third volumes of the 2017 Kadokawa edition, but Wikipedia says that their 2 books map onto volumes 1 and 2. Also, these two books' Amazon.com's Look Inside files are for the manga version, but it appears to be an unrelated problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:02, 1 April 2024 (EDT)

I'll see what I can figure out. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:55, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
Thanks! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:06, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
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