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== Starfire ==
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== Niven/Pournelle/Flynn's Fallen Angels and Dream Park Universe ==
  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5665530; It mentions Starfire logo on copyright page and second page says "Other Bantam Starfire Books you will enjoy" so this is a Starfire book but I'm not willing to argue about it. Here's a random Starfire book which mentions logo but not other books, https://archive.org/details/amongshadowstale00mont, and yet it's Starfire on ISFDB. So all these rejections are going to screw up standardizing publisher imprints and lead to many books being under the wrong publisher, but that's not my problem. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:20, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
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Hi, in a review, [https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/really-cant-stay James Davis Nicoll] is dubious that Fallen Angels is part of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?39707 Dream Park Universe].  The series membership seems to be down to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?2755028 a July 2015 edit of yours]. (FWIW [[User_talk:Nihonjoe/Archive_2]] covers that period, but I don't see any relevant talk items.
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:That's all true, but standard practice is to use what is on the title page, regardless of anything anywhere else. If all the other books are the same way, then they were entered incorrectly and will need to be corrected. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:55, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I'm just going to mention that doing so would be a really bad idea, because there are thousands of publishers where imprint/publisher is used even when the publisher isn't on the title page. I don't think you can find a single one of the hundreds of Leisure Books post-1982 that are on ISFDB, and likely none of the non-genre books that aren't on here, that actually say Dorchester on the title page. The nightmare of going through every book on ISFDB that's by Leisure and Dorchester and changing them all to Leisure, having to contact all the PV of which there are very many, some of which have been gone for years, is not worth it. I believe only the 2 60s books and the very early 70s books can legitimately be standalone Leisure books, everything from then to 1981-1982 says published by Nordon and everything after that says published by Dorchester. So what needs to be done is for several people, since this is a pretty big job, to go through "Leisure Books" and change everything from 1982-on to Leisure and Dorchester, being careful with the earliest ones because I'm not sure when the exact switch to Dorchester happened; of the books by Leisure and Dorchester currently only 1 is probably wrong, 1980's Killer Satellites. I don't have any real interest in this stuff like many of you do and likely won't be editing here much longer but I'm telling you that you're going to open a can of worms if you try changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:46, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::That's been the policy for as long as I can remember. If one (or more) is entered differently, it should be a rare exception and clearly documented in the notes as to why it's an exception. If you think the policy is wrong, then a discussion needs to happen on the Rules and Standards discussion page so all the details can be ironed out and everyone can be aware of the change (if any). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:06, 5 June 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Kurodahan Asamatsu ==
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As I've not read any of the works in question, I don't have a dog in this "fight", but just raising it in case you can recall any explanatory details that might be worth putting in a title or series note?  Thanks. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 11:51, 11 January 2024 (EST)
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:I'll see if I can find the source. I'm sure I wouldn't have added it if I didn't have a reason. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 21:19, 12 January 2024 (EST)
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::Well, after a bit of looking around, I can't find anything that indicates it's in the Dream Park universe, so I've removed it. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:12, 16 January 2024 (EST)
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::: Thanks! [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:09, 16 January 2024 (EST)
  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5692125; After my edit's approved you might want to look at this since PV is gone and there could be some things to add/fix. EDIT: There's 1 other book by him, https://archive.org/search?query=ken+asamatsu, that I don't think is on ISFDB. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:18, 14 June 2023 (EDT)
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== Bloodwars ==
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:It's [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?671748 already here] (since 2018), though he only has a short story in it. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:20, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Yu Miri  ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5737123; PV finally responded and agreed that it's Roc. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:44, 12 January 2024 (EST)
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:Approved. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 21:20, 12 January 2024 (EST)
  
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Hello,
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== Sacred Seven ==
  
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When you have a chance can you figure out the originals of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?303045 Yu Miri]'s books and add the Japanese editions (and probably flip the canonical to her Japanese name). Tokyo Ueno Station is JR上野駅公園口 but I cannot find the "The End of August" original title so figured I will just ask you if you do not mind figuring out both and fixing the whole author. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:58, 27 June 2023 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28719; While adding Archive.org link I noticed artist is just Donato on copyright page, one of his alternate names, so it should probably be entered as such and made a variant of his parent name. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:24, 14 January 2024 (EST)
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:{{Done}} Done [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?365846 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:26, 29 June 2023 (EDT)
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:I'll check my copy. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:39, 15 January 2024 (EST)
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:: Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:42, 29 June 2023 (EDT)
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:Updated, and your submission has been approved, too. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:48, 15 January 2024 (EST)
  
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== "Rokusyou Usuasagi" -- one author or two? ==
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== Father Christmas Goes to Work ==
  
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Yen On has published [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3203968 this novel], which credits "Rokusyou • Usuasagi" on the cover and "Rokusyou and Usuasagi" on the title/copyright page. I have found and entered the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3203970 Japanese original], but I am not sure whether "緑青・薄浅黄" is one person or two. Would you happen to have a way of telling what's going on here? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:53, 2 July 2023 (EDT)
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Hi Nihonjoe -  
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:It's two authors. I've cleaned it all up. See [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?70309 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 15:20, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:30, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
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Could I get you to double check the title of the last story in {{P|497064|Dragons at Crumbling Castle and Other Tales}}.  We have it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work".  However, the audio book has it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work at the Zoo".  I had a look at the Amazon look inside features and the {{P|464952|UK edition}} has the longer title in the TOC, whereas for your edition the TOC has the shorter title.  If the title page of your copy matches the TOC with the shorter title, then I think we're going to have to make a variant.  If not, we can simply merge with {{T|2307213|this title}}.  There is one other verifier of the UK edition who last edited on December 11.  I'll leave a note on their talk page as well, but I don't know that we'll receive a response.  Thanks for checking.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 06:48, 26 January 2024 (EST)
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:I'll take a look. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:27, 27 January 2024 (EST)
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:The title page for the story has the shorter title, so I made the shorter title a variant of the longer title. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:52, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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::Thanks so much for checking.  I got a response from the verifier of the UK edition and it appears that only the US editions with the exception of the audio book use the shorter title.  I'll take care of swapping out the publications that need it.  Thanks again. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:36, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:::Sounds good. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:54, 30 January 2024 (EST)
  
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== Wikipedia-ish question about anonymous edits there ==
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== [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?983981 Iskateli: Fanzine de la SF Internationale]: some (or all) things are seriously wrong ==
  
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Hi, I think you are or were active on Wikipedia?  Can I ask your opinion on something that's somewhat Wikipedia related?
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Hello, Joe! Since you approved of the submission for that magazine / nonfiction, could you please help in getting this record corrected? Please add comments or advice within [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Antunes#Iskateli%3A_Fanzine_de_la_SF_Internationale this discussion item]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 14:28, 26 January 2024 (EST)
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:Sure. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:31, 27 January 2024 (EST)
  
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The [https://twitter.com/WCInMemoriam/status/1677711160005599232 Worldcon in Memoriam] Twitter account has just reported that artist [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25963 Peter Goodfellow] died on 2022-12-11.  Whilst I guess that account is somewhat official, and I've never seen it misreport anything before, I can't find any corroboration for that date in Google search results, or even that he's definitely passed away.
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=== Fanzine de la SF Internationale No.27 ===
  
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The sole exception is that there was [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25963 a Feb 2023 edit] to his Wikipedia page, to say that he died some time in 2022.  The edit is just attributed to an IP address, which I assume is an unlogged in user.  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.242.253.69 That IP doesn't seem to be associated with any other edits.]
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Since I found [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?983981 this fanzine] I've been wondering how the confusing contributions by user [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Antunes#Iskateli:_Fanzine_de_la_SF_Internationale Antunes] can be corrected. I did my very best. Unfortunately, only some of the pages are available as scans on the website of [https://nebulosafanzine.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/iskateli-fanzine-of-science-fiction-internacionale-n%c2%ba-27-summer-1986/ WordPress] and I'm not quite fluent in Japanese. :) Can You please have a look on that? Thank You! --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] ([[User talk:Zapp|talk]]) 16:22, 26 January 2024 (EST)
  
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How trustworthy are such edits, in your opinion.  For something as potentially sensitive as deaths, I personally am reluctant to make an edit without a couple of moderately independent and trustworthy sources.  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 12:56, 8 July 2023 (EDT)
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== Harlequin Butterfly ==
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: Never mind, just tried a different search term, and found [https://www.heraldscotland.com/memorials/death-notices/death/30510386.peter-george-goodfellow/ a death notice].  Although it has a middle name not in the DB here or Wikipedia, and says nothing about him being an artist, the location matches where the Wikipedia page said he lived.  Sorry for blathering on before thoroughly checking stuff :-( [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 13:03, 8 July 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Good find! Generally speaking, anonymous edits are just as acceptable on Wikipedia as logged-in edits, as long as a reliable source is used. That twitter account is likely more reliable than some others. Let me know if you have any other questions. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:05, 10 July 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Yumi and the Nightmare Painter ebook public release ==
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When you have a chance, can you see if you can find the original title of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?991901 this novella]? Thanks!
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PS: It looks like we have a few more stories without parents for this author. Not sure how easy it will be to chase them down but if you have the time and desire to, the author page can use some help :). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:05, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:https://archive.org/search?query=%E6%80%AA%E7%8D%A3%E3%82%B4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A9&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22; While looking up the author I saw his Godzilla novel, clicked the series link, saw a 1954 book, cut-and-pasted the title on Archive.org, and got the above-linked book. I don't know if that's a novelization of Gojira or what but if so or something similar maybe you might find it worthy of entering here (if it's not already). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:18, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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::It looks like that archive.org link is for a Chinese version of something related to Godzilla. I don't read Chinese (except for a very few characters), so I don't know what that is. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:The butterfly title is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3277321 here]. I've merged/varianted everything. I'll see what I can do about his other works. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:07, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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:: Ah, that was quick. Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)
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== The Mummy ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?976311; Dot after Kevin J. Kennedy's first name prevents story from being in the same record as his others. I didn't check any other contents but you might want to see if there's anything else that needs fixing. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:18, 3 February 2024 (EST)
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:Fixed. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 15:19, 4 February 2024 (EST)
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== Shadowdance ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930940; https://vaultofevil.proboards.com/thread/670/vampy-crew?page=3; Artist's first name is spelled differently at the Vault of Evil link and she is probably the same as this artist, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56801, price is different on cover, other piece of fiction supposedly by Ed Hyuck but probably this guy, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224679, lots of poetry, etc. So the author who gave the info may need contacting to verify or add things if you can get a hold of him. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:34, 4 February 2024 (EST)
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:I have no idea how to reach Kervin. And I gree that it's possibly the same artist for those two, but I don't have any way to find out. I've corrected the other things, though. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 15:26, 4 February 2024 (EST)
  
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You've PVed the Kickstarter epub [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?959610 here].  [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Project-Cosmere-Novel-Projects-ebook/dp/B0BPN9JT6M/ Amazon UK] and [https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/secret-project-3 Kobo (GB)] have ebooks with today's date.  (If those links don't work on your side of the Atlantic, I imagine there are similar ebooks on the respective US sites.)
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== Tress of the Emerald Sea ==
  
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Based on the content visible in the previews for those ebooks, they seem to be identical to what you've documented in your PV.  As such, I'm inclined to add the ASIN to that record, and note the later pub date for those site, and the fake Kobo ISBN of 1230006019518, as opposed to adding a second ebook record.  Does that seem reasonable to you?
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I just checked back to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?955617 the previous secret project ebook], which I had a recollection of submitting.  It seems there was only an entry for the PDF ebook, which similarly was 10 days earlier than the "public" release. Does that maybe merit similar changes if there was a Kickstarter version of that format?  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 09:24, 11 July 2023 (EDT)
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Can you look at the two interior art records by Howard Lyon [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?936493 here]? They (or at least one of them) need disambiguation of some type -- [2] for example. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:40, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:I only have the Kickstarter versions, so I couldn't offer any insigt as to whether the UK releases are the same or different. If you don't have them, I'd suggest creating separate publications for the UK/Kobo releases. If they turn out to be identical, we can always combine them. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:21, 11 July 2023 (EDT)
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:Fixed. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:58, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:: Sorry, I only just realized after looking at my local TODO list that I never responded to your response.  FWIW, these ebooks are published by Dragonsteel Enterprises, and I'm 99.99% certain they are identical between the UK and US - the ASIN is the same, so it would be weird if they aren't.  (The physical general market releases are from Tor (US) and Gollancz (UK), but IIRC they are a few weeks from release, at least [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?956710 the UK one] is.) The Amazon.com page is [https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Project-Cosmere-Novel-Projects-ebook/dp/B0BPN9JT6M/ here], could you possibly take a quick look at the preview and see if it matches your copy?  Annoyingly the preview doesn't include the copyright page, which might settle the matter unambiguously.  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:48, 13 July 2023 (EDT)
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:: Thanks! I suspect you have no way to check if one of these matches the single record from the rest of the editions :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:16, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:::I spoke with the lead editor at Dragonsteel, and he said the releases are pretty much identical (some minor errors were fixed and some ads were added at the end). So yes, merge the Dragonsteel releases from the Amazons into the Kickstarter epub release (not the PDF release, as that one has page numbers and the epub does not). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:23, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
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:::Are you talking about [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3165837 this one]? If so, the Tor editions do not contain all of the illustrations found in the Kickstarter edition. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:18, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:::: Much appreciate you going the extra mile on this one. I'll sort it all out tonight, if only because I want the ASIN in the database before Saturday's download, and I can sync my local data against it. Thanks again. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 13:48, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
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:::: That's the one. We need some notes around that in all these records I think. And I think I will disconnect the Bulgarian edition out from all of them until I get better idea of what they did use actually. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:53, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:::::No problem. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:40, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
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::::: I added a note [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3165837 here] so that should be enough to keep things separate. Thanks for checking and for the explanation about the difference. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 21:17, 6 February 2024 (EST)
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:::::: I guess you'll have received a PV notification, but I've just updated [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?959610 it].  Added extra para for with the Amazon etc details, plus ASIN and BN IDs.  Hopefully that's the end of it... at least until the next secret project comes out ;-) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:57, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
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::::::No problem. I have the Kickstarter editions as well as the Tor hardcover, so if you have any questions bout them, let me know. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:33, 7 February 2024 (EST)
  
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== Guy Anthony ? ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?951203; All other works by DeMarco are as by De Marco; is this one really DeMarco or should it have a space? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:24, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
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Joe, please reverse the change in background color [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Contents here] Blue print on a blue background is harder for me to read. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:15, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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:No idea. I don't have a copy of that. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:38, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
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: Maybe a complimentary color? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:38, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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:I take that back. The editor sent me a pic of the table of contents, where the name is "DeMarco", with no space. I've varianted it now. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:51, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
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::How about now? It's a much lighter blue. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 10:31, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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::: Works for me. Thank you, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:18, 14 February 2024 (EST)
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::::You're welcome! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 11:21, 14 February 2024 (EST)
  
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== Tiny Dragons ==
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== Low Port ==
  
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Just heads up on an author disambiguation involving your verified: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2442532 here]. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:39, 31 July 2023 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?179605; PENDING archived link, noticed other edition has count as 354+[14] because of unnumbered pages at the end, should this edition be the same? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:28, 22 February 2024 (EST)
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:Looks good. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:08, 4 August 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Mothra ==
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== Inverted Kingdom ==
  
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https://picclick.com/Sanrio-SF-Bunko-30A-Rosalind-ash-moth-174916262653.html; I'd been adding links and stuff to Rosalind Ashe novels when I came across that sale; beautiful cover that's not on any editions on ISFDB, so if you can find out more you may want to enter that edition. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:59, 3 August 2023 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5901230; After approval you might want to check if anything else needs fixing/adding. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 00:26, 27 February 2024 (EST)
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:Done [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3213364 here], and another one [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3213366 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:07, 4 August 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Goodnight, Mr. James ==
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== Briar Rose ==
  
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Your verified {{P|948527|Robots Through the Ages}}, has {{T|3204545|Goodnight, Mr. James}} as a short story. There is a more widely appearing {{T|55235|Good Night, Mr. James}} as a novelette. Would you mind double checking the length of your version and, as appropriate, either update the length & variant or add a note indicating this is a truncated version? If you need to compare the text, the original magazine version is [https://archive.org/details/Galaxy_v01n06_-_1951-03/page/n65/mode/2up here]. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:29, 13 August 2023 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5454
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:I'll check. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:27, 17 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I did a full word count from the archived copy and got 7490. I did an estimated word count on the version in ''Robots Through the Ages'' and got 7412. I've updated the length to "short story" per that, and varianted the ''Robots Through the Ages'' title to the existing title. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:42, 23 August 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Genius Loci ==
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hiya i'm asking the active pvs for this one if they mind if I change the pages field to take into account the extra stuff listed in the contents.  cheers from Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 09:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)
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:Sounds good to me. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)
  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5740518; Page count, both Roman and regular, are off, and "editor's note" is really foreword. I didn't check page numbers or story titles or anything like that. Also, the reprint years later with a different cover is 350 pages shorter on here; that can't be right. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:08, 13 August 2023 (EDT)
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== Japan SF Year Book ==
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:I'll have to check my copy. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:25, 17 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Okay, these are all fixed. I updated the version I have, and split off the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3219467 newer anthology of the same name] as it only has 15 stories in it (despite the Amazon description). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:02, 23 August 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Shigeru Kayama  ==
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https://archive.org/search?query=%22japan-sf-year-book%22&sin=TXT; Not sure exactly what it covers but I don't think it's on ISFDB so if it qualifies you may want to enter it. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:35, 8 March 2024 (EST)
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1001058 Added]]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:43, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
  
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== Folklore Studies ==
  
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Would you mind getting [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?367699 this author] sorted out? I found [https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Godzilla_and_Godzilla_Raids_Again this]. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:57, 18 August 2023 (EDT)
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Hi Joe,
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:All done [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?344361 here]. I'm working on adding more of his works as there aren't very many included here yet. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 18:06, 21 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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:: Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:10, 21 August 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Surraoundings ==
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Can you help finding the Japanese series and title and author name [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1000813 here]. Thanks in advance! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:53, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?72934 Done]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:10, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
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:: Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:11, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
  
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Hi, re your PV'd {{P|552093|pub here}}. Would you mind sorting out the typo in the canonical for "City of Adopest (map)"? Titles affected are [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=title_title&O_1=contains&TERM_1=City+of+Adopest&C=AND&USE_2=title_title&O_2=exact&TERM_2=&USE_3=title_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=title_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=title_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=title_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=title_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=title_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=title_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=title_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=title_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Title here]. (Btw, I've [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5755384 submitted] correction to one of the page counts) Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:40, 28 August 2023 (EDT)
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== Swan Song published in Canada ==
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:It looks like that misspelling is from [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?433770 this publication], for which there are no PVs. Based on that, I assume it's a typo and have corrected it accordingly. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:45, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Thanks for sorting that, and I've submitted a merge for the two "City of Adopest and Surroundings (map)" titles. Kev.--[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:02, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Green Man ==
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Hello. I see that you have changed the Swan Song entry I added for the book published in Canada by changing the publisher to Pocket Books (Canada). The book's title page states "Published by Pocket Books New York" over "Distributed in Canada by PaperJacks Ltd., a Licensee of the trademarks of Simon & Schuster, Inc." and the copyright page states  "POCKET BOOKS, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc. 1230 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y.10020" above "In Canada distributed by PaperJacks Ltd., 330 Steelcase Road, Markham, Ontario". So, I'm not sure - do these two statements verify that the book was published by Pocket Books (Canada)?
  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5694041; All other books by the publisher are PB, that's why I changed it. A low-rent publisher like this wouldn't publish a TP, especially not in the 1940's. Also, one PV was transient and the other one had not left a message on their board since October of 2021 and just happened to start leaving messages again exactly 1 day before I made my edit. Here's a sale which calls it a paperback, digest size: https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Green-Man-Visitor-Space-Sherman-Harold/19181544857/bd. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:30, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
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Another interesting item is that the "Published in Canada" is a completely different font versus the rest of the book. Any ideas as to why?
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:All you wrote was "fixed format". That is neither clear nor helpful as we can't read your mind. As you've been asked many, many times before, you need to include all of this information ''with'' your submission. I've approved it now. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:41, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Why would I need to include anything? Click on the publisher and you can see for yourself. Is that so hard to do? Do I really need to tell you to do that? Do you think I just changed it because I felt like it? Has my edit really been sitting around for months because none of you mods can click a link? Did none of you notice that one of the PV was transient and wouldn't have the book anymore and the other one hadn't responded to anything in a couple of years and just happened to come back exactly at the same time I made my edit? Am I psychic and should have known that would happen and left them a message telling them I changed the format even though they should have known what the format really was because the other 2 books by the publisher that are PV were done before this guy's PV and they both entered it correctly as a PB paperback? I'm in the business (among many other things) of fixing the countless mistakes that were made here in the nearly 15 years that public editing was going on before I started; mistakes that apparently no one noticed or cared enough to fix because most of you abandoned print books long ago and just enter e-books now. So I'm doing my best to fix (and add) as much as I can until I decide to stop doing this; try being grateful instead of complaining about something as utterly trivial as this. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:05, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::If you had included a simple "All other books by the publisher are PB, so it's unlikely this one was TP", that would have worked. Work with us, and we'll work with you. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:45, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::Are you purposely trying to annoy me? I'll say this again, this publisher only has 5 books on ISFDB, all others are PB, PV of this one made a very common mistake and entered TP for PB, I've corrected countless numbers of those, many of which you approved, I'm sure, or sometimes PB is wrongly entered instead of TP. There's an enormous amount of fixes needed for the print books on this site, many of which were entered incompletely and then never followed up on by anyone, others that were entered with wrong info that a mod approved without double-checking the info to make sure it was right, and I've tried my best to correct what I can, although I'm sure even after more than 2 1/2 years of doing this nearly every day I still have only corrected less than 1% of the mistakes here. I'm not here to hold your hands and walk you through every step, especially since most of you have been here far longer than me, most of the other people here don't answer anything I ask on the message boards or when they do they answer with sarcasm or weird non-answers or the usual stuff about being sick/moving/unpacking/I don't care about this site anymore because I'm mad at someone else on the site, or they answer with anger at daring to suggest they made a mistake about something; I see hundreds of messages on Community Portal right now with no name except my own. I still can't believe some of the recent edits that have been sitting in my list that took forever for someone to finally approve for the most ridiculous of reasons, from adding Roman numerals to page counts (which many PV forget to enter or didn't know they were supposed to enter) or this one which was patently obvious or the Ramsey Campbell one adding a cover to a PB that sat there for months for some unknown reason. The ingratitude here is really something else; all the work I've done to correct the mistakes you and everyone else made before I got here, not to mention all the additions I've made, and all you can do is complain about something that would have been taken care of in a couple of seconds by clicking a link that's right there on the edit page. Or, now that I think of it, when the first mod who looked at this one long ago, probably RTrace, didn't feel like clicking the link he could have left a message saying "I'm not sure about this one" and then I would have responded with some version of what I wrote above about the publisher and the edit would have been approved shortly afterwards. You know what? I had already made up my mind before your rejections that tomorrow was going to be my last day for a while, I plan on not doing this in September and then coming back in October for the Halloween season to add as many horror-related edits as I can, and after that, who knows? This is all so pointless, anyway, because the site has largely shifted to e-books and awards and Amazon links that bring in cash for clicks; most of my nearly 60,000 edits have probably never been looked at by anyone after they were approved and probably never will be. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:09, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::Okay. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 20:19, 1 September 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== ...Sunset ==
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[[User:One72guy|One72guy]] ([[User talk:One72guy|talk]]) 12:30, 23 March 2024 (EDT)
  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5702805; Because there's archived links to 2 editions and another is on Amazon (there's a $300 edition but nobody's going to have that). I don't believe I would have changed the title unless it was wrong in the books themselves. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:34, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
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:I assume you mean [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1000402 this one]? If so, you didn't include any of that information in your note. Feel free to update the publication with that information, and then correct the publisher accordingly. My change was based on the notes you included stating that everything was done in Canada. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:12, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
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:Where are the archived links? You didn't include them in your submission, and you didn't include them here? Please provide them so we can verify the information. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:47, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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::The archived links are in the editions' records, both added by me earlier this year. They say "archive.org" on the page; that means there's an archived link to the book. Click on them and you'll see, like I did but not anyone else, apparently, that one of the titles was entered wrong here and so I fixed it. EDIT: [https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/31548137177_2.jpg]; There's the title page where the story first appeared which also says "On Sunset" regardless of what the careless publication history in Power's collection says which is probably where the incorrect "At Sunset" was taken from. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 22:07, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Then [[User talk:Markwood|contact the PV]] and ask them to check their copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?633727 the book] and update the entry. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:53, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== 1634: The Bavarian Crisis ==
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::Thanks for the reply. I will add the info as per your suggestion and I'll change the publisher back to Pocket Books until there's more knowledgeable information found regarding the real publisher. My guess is that Pocket Books got a Canadian company to do the printing, with a new cover and copyright page for Canada, (possibly PaperJacks) and then had it distributed by PaperJacks as per the statements on the title & copyright pages.
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::[[User:One72guy|One72guy]] ([[User talk:One72guy|talk]]) 23:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
  
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The Pages field for your verified publication [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?207873 1634: The Bavarian Crisis] currently shows '[x]+690+[3]'. I initially approved a submission removing the brackets from the Roman numeral (subsequently reversed). Per the help, we enter the Roman numeral for the highest numbered page. Hence, brackets can never be correct. However, I own a copy of the first edition, there are no Roman numerals in my copy. In my opinion, the correct entry for Pages is '690+[3]'. Do you agree? If not, why? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:53, 9 September 2023 (EDT)
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:::Sounds good. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:24, 25 March 2024 (EDT)
  
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Same for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260548 The Dreeson Incident] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?327545 1635: The Eastern Front].
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== Baen Books/Baen and Toni Weisskopf ==
  
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After looking at all the first printings up through [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?724653 1636: The China Venture], I think the proper way to account for the maps is an unnumbered Arabic sequence. I'll be glad to verify them after we reach agreement. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:16, 9 September 2023 (EDT)
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When you have a free moment, could you please review [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Baen_vs_Baen_Books_publishers_redux this discussion]? TIA. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:11, 27 March 2024 (EDT)
  
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:For [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?260548 The Dreeson Incident] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?327545 1635: The Eastern Front], I removed the brackets as the notes don't indicate anything about the pages being unnumbered but referenced in the table of contents. I think [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?207873 1634: The Bavarian Crisis] should be left as is since it does have a note indicating the pages are unnumbered but referenced in the table of contents. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:37, 12 September 2023 (EDT)
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== Nahoko Uehashi's The Deer King ==
  
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I am trying to figure out how Yen On's recent translations of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?71440 this series] map onto the Japanese originals, but I am not having much luck. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deer_King Wikipedia article] says:
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::* Publication pages field: Where does the help section support the use of Roman numerals for a publication which has no pages with Roman numerals?
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* Kadokawa published the original novel in two volumes in September 2014, and then republished it in four reprinted volumes between June and July 2017.
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::* Content titles page field: If there are no Roman numerals in the pages field, how can the content titles have a Roman numeral? You mention pub notes referring to the publication's contents page. Wouldn't that contradict this statement from the help? "Caution: Do not use the table of contents to determine the page numbers of a publication's contents."
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As far as I can tell, Yen On reused the cover art from the first and the ''third'' volumes of the 2017 Kadokawa edition, but Wikipedia says that their 2 books map onto volumes 1 and 2. Also, these two books' Amazon.com's Look Inside files are for the manga version, but it appears to be an unrelated problem.
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:: Here is [https://isfdb.org/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/163x_analysis.jpg/800px-163x_analysis.jpg my analysis] of the above two fields for numbers 2-28 (hc except for the 3 only printed in tp) in the 163x series. Note, correct in this analysis is determined by using Bullet point 3 [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Pages here.]
 
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::* "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages. There is no need to record these unnumbered pages if they contain no content that needs to be recorded. At times you will need to count backwards from the first numbered page to see which is page 1 and then would count the unnumbered pages that are before this. Likewise, you may record the count of unnumbered pages at the end of a publication. For example, 320+[4]. As before, only do this if there is additional content in these pages that requires the creation of a content record, as when there is an afterword or book excerpt which appears on unnumbered pages."
 
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:: A couple of your verified publications do use the method I consider correct. Since you, [[User:Philfreund]] and I are the only active verifiers, I'll invite him to participate here. Thanks for your time, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:39, 13 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::I also don't understand your use of Roman numerals where the only place they exist is in the ToC. I agree with John's points above. His second point about the content titles explicitly forbidding the use of the ToC for page numbering surely points for the need to have consistency in the pages field contents, even if not currently explicitly stated. There also definitely needs to be a note in each publication record where this situation exists since it's such an anomaly. The Help for the pages field should be updated to cover this situation. Looking at John's analysis, I need to go back and fix some of the publications where I am sole active PV; I'm not sure how I missed them the first time through. Thanks. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:02, 14 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::If page numbers are given in the TOC, even if the pages themselves aren't numbered, I consider them numbered. There are some books that just don't number things prior to page 1, but I've seen a few (like this one) that have the page numbers given in the TOC but not on the actual pages. Why wouldn't we use the page numbers given in the TOC for that? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:55, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::Perhaps a discussion needs to be opened on the [[Rules and standards discussions]] page so this can be sorted out. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:56, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::: I was about to recommend that when I saw your second post. For now, do you agree with Phil and I correcting the publications which do not comply with present standards? There are 12 more, in the above analysis, that I would like to add my PV. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 13:09, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?293963 Terri Karsten] / [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?341030 Terri Karston] ==
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Any help would be greatly appreciated! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:02, 1 April 2024 (EDT)
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:I'll see what I can figure out. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:55, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
  
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Hi, Joe! It may be that the two authors are one and the same person. Since you are the sole verifier for a publication featuring the latter: could you take a look if there's a hint for the relation? Thanks, Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 04:50, 13 September 2023 (EDT)
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:06, 2 April 2024 (EDT)

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Niven/Pournelle/Flynn's Fallen Angels and Dream Park Universe

Hi, in a review, James Davis Nicoll is dubious that Fallen Angels is part of Dream Park Universe. The series membership seems to be down to a July 2015 edit of yours. (FWIW User_talk:Nihonjoe/Archive_2 covers that period, but I don't see any relevant talk items.

As I've not read any of the works in question, I don't have a dog in this "fight", but just raising it in case you can recall any explanatory details that might be worth putting in a title or series note? Thanks. ErsatzCulture (talk) 11:51, 11 January 2024 (EST)

I'll see if I can find the source. I'm sure I wouldn't have added it if I didn't have a reason. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:19, 12 January 2024 (EST)
Well, after a bit of looking around, I can't find anything that indicates it's in the Dream Park universe, so I've removed it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:12, 16 January 2024 (EST)
Thanks! ErsatzCulture (talk) 17:09, 16 January 2024 (EST)

Bloodwars

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5737123; PV finally responded and agreed that it's Roc. --Username (talk) 17:44, 12 January 2024 (EST)

Approved. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:20, 12 January 2024 (EST)

Sacred Seven

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28719; While adding Archive.org link I noticed artist is just Donato on copyright page, one of his alternate names, so it should probably be entered as such and made a variant of his parent name. --Username (talk) 21:24, 14 January 2024 (EST)

I'll check my copy. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:39, 15 January 2024 (EST)
Updated, and your submission has been approved, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:48, 15 January 2024 (EST)

Father Christmas Goes to Work

Hi Nihonjoe -

Could I get you to double check the title of the last story in Dragons at Crumbling Castle and Other Tales. We have it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work". However, the audio book has it as "Father Christmas Goes to Work at the Zoo". I had a look at the Amazon look inside features and the UK edition has the longer title in the TOC, whereas for your edition the TOC has the shorter title. If the title page of your copy matches the TOC with the shorter title, then I think we're going to have to make a variant. If not, we can simply merge with this title. There is one other verifier of the UK edition who last edited on December 11. I'll leave a note on their talk page as well, but I don't know that we'll receive a response. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 06:48, 26 January 2024 (EST)

I'll take a look. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:27, 27 January 2024 (EST)
The title page for the story has the shorter title, so I made the shorter title a variant of the longer title. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:52, 29 January 2024 (EST)
Thanks so much for checking. I got a response from the verifier of the UK edition and it appears that only the US editions with the exception of the audio book use the shorter title. I'll take care of swapping out the publications that need it. Thanks again. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:36, 29 January 2024 (EST)
Sounds good. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:54, 30 January 2024 (EST)

Iskateli: Fanzine de la SF Internationale: some (or all) things are seriously wrong

Hello, Joe! Since you approved of the submission for that magazine / nonfiction, could you please help in getting this record corrected? Please add comments or advice within this discussion item. Christian Stonecreek (talk) 14:28, 26 January 2024 (EST)

Sure. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:31, 27 January 2024 (EST)

Fanzine de la SF Internationale No.27

Since I found this fanzine I've been wondering how the confusing contributions by user Antunes can be corrected. I did my very best. Unfortunately, only some of the pages are available as scans on the website of WordPress and I'm not quite fluent in Japanese. :) Can You please have a look on that? Thank You! --Zapp (talk) 16:22, 26 January 2024 (EST)

Harlequin Butterfly

Hello Joe,

When you have a chance, can you see if you can find the original title of this novella? Thanks!

PS: It looks like we have a few more stories without parents for this author. Not sure how easy it will be to chase them down but if you have the time and desire to, the author page can use some help :). Thanks! Annie (talk) 17:05, 29 January 2024 (EST)

https://archive.org/search?query=%E6%80%AA%E7%8D%A3%E3%82%B4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A9&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22; While looking up the author I saw his Godzilla novel, clicked the series link, saw a 1954 book, cut-and-pasted the title on Archive.org, and got the above-linked book. I don't know if that's a novelization of Gojira or what but if so or something similar maybe you might find it worthy of entering here (if it's not already). --Username (talk) 17:18, 29 January 2024 (EST)
It looks like that archive.org link is for a Chinese version of something related to Godzilla. I don't read Chinese (except for a very few characters), so I don't know what that is. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)
The butterfly title is here. I've merged/varianted everything. I'll see what I can do about his other works. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:07, 29 January 2024 (EST)
Ah, that was quick. Thanks! :) Annie (talk) 18:09, 29 January 2024 (EST)

The Mummy

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?976311; Dot after Kevin J. Kennedy's first name prevents story from being in the same record as his others. I didn't check any other contents but you might want to see if there's anything else that needs fixing. --Username (talk) 22:18, 3 February 2024 (EST)

Fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:19, 4 February 2024 (EST)

Shadowdance

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?930940; https://vaultofevil.proboards.com/thread/670/vampy-crew?page=3; Artist's first name is spelled differently at the Vault of Evil link and she is probably the same as this artist, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?56801, price is different on cover, other piece of fiction supposedly by Ed Hyuck but probably this guy, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?224679, lots of poetry, etc. So the author who gave the info may need contacting to verify or add things if you can get a hold of him. --Username (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2024 (EST)

I have no idea how to reach Kervin. And I gree that it's possibly the same artist for those two, but I don't have any way to find out. I've corrected the other things, though. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:26, 4 February 2024 (EST)

Tress of the Emerald Sea

Hi Joe,

Can you look at the two interior art records by Howard Lyon here? They (or at least one of them) need disambiguation of some type -- [2] for example. :) Thanks! Annie (talk) 11:40, 6 February 2024 (EST)

Fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:58, 6 February 2024 (EST)
Thanks! I suspect you have no way to check if one of these matches the single record from the rest of the editions :) Annie (talk) 15:16, 6 February 2024 (EST)
Are you talking about this one? If so, the Tor editions do not contain all of the illustrations found in the Kickstarter edition. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:18, 6 February 2024 (EST)
That's the one. We need some notes around that in all these records I think. And I think I will disconnect the Bulgarian edition out from all of them until I get better idea of what they did use actually. Thanks! Annie (talk) 20:53, 6 February 2024 (EST)
I added a note here so that should be enough to keep things separate. Thanks for checking and for the explanation about the difference. Annie (talk) 21:17, 6 February 2024 (EST)
No problem. I have the Kickstarter editions as well as the Tor hardcover, so if you have any questions bout them, let me know. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:33, 7 February 2024 (EST)

Help:Contents

Joe, please reverse the change in background color here Blue print on a blue background is harder for me to read. Thanks, John Scifibones 08:15, 14 February 2024 (EST)

Maybe a complimentary color? John Scifibones 09:38, 14 February 2024 (EST)
How about now? It's a much lighter blue. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:31, 14 February 2024 (EST)
Works for me. Thank you, John Scifibones 11:18, 14 February 2024 (EST)
You're welcome! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 11:21, 14 February 2024 (EST)

Low Port

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?179605; PENDING archived link, noticed other edition has count as 354+[14] because of unnumbered pages at the end, should this edition be the same? --Username (talk) 09:28, 22 February 2024 (EST)

Inverted Kingdom

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5901230; After approval you might want to check if anything else needs fixing/adding. --Username (talk) 00:26, 27 February 2024 (EST)

Briar Rose

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?5454

hiya i'm asking the active pvs for this one if they mind if I change the pages field to take into account the extra stuff listed in the contents. cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 09:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Sounds good to me. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:53, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Japan SF Year Book

https://archive.org/search?query=%22japan-sf-year-book%22&sin=TXT; Not sure exactly what it covers but I don't think it's on ISFDB so if it qualifies you may want to enter it. --Username (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2024 (EST)

Added]. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:43, 24 March 2024 (EDT)

Folklore Studies

Hi Joe,

Can you help finding the Japanese series and title and author name here. Thanks in advance! Annie (talk) 19:53, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:10, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
Thanks! Annie (talk) 20:11, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

Swan Song published in Canada

Hello. I see that you have changed the Swan Song entry I added for the book published in Canada by changing the publisher to Pocket Books (Canada). The book's title page states "Published by Pocket Books New York" over "Distributed in Canada by PaperJacks Ltd., a Licensee of the trademarks of Simon & Schuster, Inc." and the copyright page states "POCKET BOOKS, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc. 1230 Avenue of the Americas, New York, N.Y.10020" above "In Canada distributed by PaperJacks Ltd., 330 Steelcase Road, Markham, Ontario". So, I'm not sure - do these two statements verify that the book was published by Pocket Books (Canada)?

Another interesting item is that the "Published in Canada" is a completely different font versus the rest of the book. Any ideas as to why?

One72guy (talk) 12:30, 23 March 2024 (EDT)

I assume you mean this one? If so, you didn't include any of that information in your note. Feel free to update the publication with that information, and then correct the publisher accordingly. My change was based on the notes you included stating that everything was done in Canada. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:12, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
Thanks for the reply. I will add the info as per your suggestion and I'll change the publisher back to Pocket Books until there's more knowledgeable information found regarding the real publisher. My guess is that Pocket Books got a Canadian company to do the printing, with a new cover and copyright page for Canada, (possibly PaperJacks) and then had it distributed by PaperJacks as per the statements on the title & copyright pages.
One72guy (talk) 23:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
Sounds good. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:24, 25 March 2024 (EDT)

Baen Books/Baen and Toni Weisskopf

When you have a free moment, could you please review this discussion? TIA. Ahasuerus (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2024 (EDT)

Nahoko Uehashi's The Deer King

I am trying to figure out how Yen On's recent translations of this series map onto the Japanese originals, but I am not having much luck. The Wikipedia article says:

  • Kadokawa published the original novel in two volumes in September 2014, and then republished it in four reprinted volumes between June and July 2017.

As far as I can tell, Yen On reused the cover art from the first and the third volumes of the 2017 Kadokawa edition, but Wikipedia says that their 2 books map onto volumes 1 and 2. Also, these two books' Amazon.com's Look Inside files are for the manga version, but it appears to be an unrelated problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:02, 1 April 2024 (EDT)

I'll see what I can figure out. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:55, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
Thanks! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:06, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
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