User talk:Nihonjoe
Notice: If you're here to tell me of a minor change (image added, additional information added, etc.) to one of my verified publications, you do not need to make a note of it here. Thanks!
Starfire
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5665530; It mentions Starfire logo on copyright page and second page says "Other Bantam Starfire Books you will enjoy" so this is a Starfire book but I'm not willing to argue about it. Here's a random Starfire book which mentions logo but not other books, https://archive.org/details/amongshadowstale00mont, and yet it's Starfire on ISFDB. So all these rejections are going to screw up standardizing publisher imprints and lead to many books being under the wrong publisher, but that's not my problem. --Username (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
- That's all true, but standard practice is to use what is on the title page, regardless of anything anywhere else. If all the other books are the same way, then they were entered incorrectly and will need to be corrected. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:55, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
- I'm just going to mention that doing so would be a really bad idea, because there are thousands of publishers where imprint/publisher is used even when the publisher isn't on the title page. I don't think you can find a single one of the hundreds of Leisure Books post-1982 that are on ISFDB, and likely none of the non-genre books that aren't on here, that actually say Dorchester on the title page. The nightmare of going through every book on ISFDB that's by Leisure and Dorchester and changing them all to Leisure, having to contact all the PV of which there are very many, some of which have been gone for years, is not worth it. I believe only the 2 60s books and the very early 70s books can legitimately be standalone Leisure books, everything from then to 1981-1982 says published by Nordon and everything after that says published by Dorchester. So what needs to be done is for several people, since this is a pretty big job, to go through "Leisure Books" and change everything from 1982-on to Leisure and Dorchester, being careful with the earliest ones because I'm not sure when the exact switch to Dorchester happened; of the books by Leisure and Dorchester currently only 1 is probably wrong, 1980's Killer Satellites. I don't have any real interest in this stuff like many of you do and likely won't be editing here much longer but I'm telling you that you're going to open a can of worms if you try changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed. --Username (talk) 18:46, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
- That's been the policy for as long as I can remember. If one (or more) is entered differently, it should be a rare exception and clearly documented in the notes as to why it's an exception. If you think the policy is wrong, then a discussion needs to happen on the Rules and Standards discussion page so all the details can be ironed out and everyone can be aware of the change (if any). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:06, 5 June 2023 (EDT)
- I'm just going to mention that doing so would be a really bad idea, because there are thousands of publishers where imprint/publisher is used even when the publisher isn't on the title page. I don't think you can find a single one of the hundreds of Leisure Books post-1982 that are on ISFDB, and likely none of the non-genre books that aren't on here, that actually say Dorchester on the title page. The nightmare of going through every book on ISFDB that's by Leisure and Dorchester and changing them all to Leisure, having to contact all the PV of which there are very many, some of which have been gone for years, is not worth it. I believe only the 2 60s books and the very early 70s books can legitimately be standalone Leisure books, everything from then to 1981-1982 says published by Nordon and everything after that says published by Dorchester. So what needs to be done is for several people, since this is a pretty big job, to go through "Leisure Books" and change everything from 1982-on to Leisure and Dorchester, being careful with the earliest ones because I'm not sure when the exact switch to Dorchester happened; of the books by Leisure and Dorchester currently only 1 is probably wrong, 1980's Killer Satellites. I don't have any real interest in this stuff like many of you do and likely won't be editing here much longer but I'm telling you that you're going to open a can of worms if you try changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed. --Username (talk) 18:46, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
Kurodahan Asamatsu
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5692125; After my edit's approved you might want to look at this since PV is gone and there could be some things to add/fix. EDIT: There's 1 other book by him, https://archive.org/search?query=ken+asamatsu, that I don't think is on ISFDB. --Username (talk) 11:18, 14 June 2023 (EDT)
- It's already here (since 2018), though he only has a short story in it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:20, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
Yu Miri
Hello,
When you have a chance can you figure out the originals of Yu Miri's books and add the Japanese editions (and probably flip the canonical to her Japanese name). Tokyo Ueno Station is JR上野駅公園口 but I cannot find the "The End of August" original title so figured I will just ask you if you do not mind figuring out both and fixing the whole author. Thanks! Annie (talk) 19:58, 27 June 2023 (EDT)
- ✓ Done here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:26, 29 June 2023 (EDT)
"Rokusyou Usuasagi" -- one author or two?
Yen On has published this novel, which credits "Rokusyou • Usuasagi" on the cover and "Rokusyou and Usuasagi" on the title/copyright page. I have found and entered the Japanese original, but I am not sure whether "緑青・薄浅黄" is one person or two. Would you happen to have a way of telling what's going on here? TIA! Ahasuerus (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2023 (EDT)
- It's two authors. I've cleaned it all up. See here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:20, 3 July 2023 (EDT)
Wikipedia-ish question about anonymous edits there
Hi, I think you are or were active on Wikipedia? Can I ask your opinion on something that's somewhat Wikipedia related?
The Worldcon in Memoriam Twitter account has just reported that artist Peter Goodfellow died on 2022-12-11. Whilst I guess that account is somewhat official, and I've never seen it misreport anything before, I can't find any corroboration for that date in Google search results, or even that he's definitely passed away.
The sole exception is that there was a Feb 2023 edit to his Wikipedia page, to say that he died some time in 2022. The edit is just attributed to an IP address, which I assume is an unlogged in user. That IP doesn't seem to be associated with any other edits.
How trustworthy are such edits, in your opinion. For something as potentially sensitive as deaths, I personally am reluctant to make an edit without a couple of moderately independent and trustworthy sources. Thanks ErsatzCulture (talk) 12:56, 8 July 2023 (EDT)
- Never mind, just tried a different search term, and found a death notice. Although it has a middle name not in the DB here or Wikipedia, and says nothing about him being an artist, the location matches where the Wikipedia page said he lived. Sorry for blathering on before thoroughly checking stuff :-( ErsatzCulture (talk) 13:03, 8 July 2023 (EDT)
- Good find! Generally speaking, anonymous edits are just as acceptable on Wikipedia as logged-in edits, as long as a reliable source is used. That twitter account is likely more reliable than some others. Let me know if you have any other questions. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:05, 10 July 2023 (EDT)
Yumi and the Nightmare Painter ebook public release
You've PVed the Kickstarter epub here. Amazon UK and Kobo (GB) have ebooks with today's date. (If those links don't work on your side of the Atlantic, I imagine there are similar ebooks on the respective US sites.)
Based on the content visible in the previews for those ebooks, they seem to be identical to what you've documented in your PV. As such, I'm inclined to add the ASIN to that record, and note the later pub date for those site, and the fake Kobo ISBN of 1230006019518, as opposed to adding a second ebook record. Does that seem reasonable to you?
I just checked back to the previous secret project ebook, which I had a recollection of submitting. It seems there was only an entry for the PDF ebook, which similarly was 10 days earlier than the "public" release. Does that maybe merit similar changes if there was a Kickstarter version of that format? Thanks ErsatzCulture (talk) 09:24, 11 July 2023 (EDT)
- I only have the Kickstarter versions, so I couldn't offer any insigt as to whether the UK releases are the same or different. If you don't have them, I'd suggest creating separate publications for the UK/Kobo releases. If they turn out to be identical, we can always combine them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:21, 11 July 2023 (EDT)
- Sorry, I only just realized after looking at my local TODO list that I never responded to your response. FWIW, these ebooks are published by Dragonsteel Enterprises, and I'm 99.99% certain they are identical between the UK and US - the ASIN is the same, so it would be weird if they aren't. (The physical general market releases are from Tor (US) and Gollancz (UK), but IIRC they are a few weeks from release, at least the UK one is.) The Amazon.com page is here, could you possibly take a quick look at the preview and see if it matches your copy? Annoyingly the preview doesn't include the copyright page, which might settle the matter unambiguously. Thanks ErsatzCulture (talk) 17:48, 13 July 2023 (EDT)
- I spoke with the lead editor at Dragonsteel, and he said the releases are pretty much identical (some minor errors were fixed and some ads were added at the end). So yes, merge the Dragonsteel releases from the Amazons into the Kickstarter epub release (not the PDF release, as that one has page numbers and the epub does not). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:23, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- Much appreciate you going the extra mile on this one. I'll sort it all out tonight, if only because I want the ASIN in the database before Saturday's download, and I can sync my local data against it. Thanks again. ErsatzCulture (talk) 13:48, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- No problem. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:40, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- I guess you'll have received a PV notification, but I've just updated it. Added extra para for with the Amazon etc details, plus ASIN and BN IDs. Hopefully that's the end of it... at least until the next secret project comes out ;-) ErsatzCulture (talk) 17:57, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- No problem. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:40, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- Much appreciate you going the extra mile on this one. I'll sort it all out tonight, if only because I want the ASIN in the database before Saturday's download, and I can sync my local data against it. Thanks again. ErsatzCulture (talk) 13:48, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- I spoke with the lead editor at Dragonsteel, and he said the releases are pretty much identical (some minor errors were fixed and some ads were added at the end). So yes, merge the Dragonsteel releases from the Amazons into the Kickstarter epub release (not the PDF release, as that one has page numbers and the epub does not). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:23, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- Sorry, I only just realized after looking at my local TODO list that I never responded to your response. FWIW, these ebooks are published by Dragonsteel Enterprises, and I'm 99.99% certain they are identical between the UK and US - the ASIN is the same, so it would be weird if they aren't. (The physical general market releases are from Tor (US) and Gollancz (UK), but IIRC they are a few weeks from release, at least the UK one is.) The Amazon.com page is here, could you possibly take a quick look at the preview and see if it matches your copy? Annoyingly the preview doesn't include the copyright page, which might settle the matter unambiguously. Thanks ErsatzCulture (talk) 17:48, 13 July 2023 (EDT)
Guy Anthony ?
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?951203; All other works by DeMarco are as by De Marco; is this one really DeMarco or should it have a space? --Username (talk) 13:24, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
- No idea. I don't have a copy of that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:38, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
- I take that back. The editor sent me a pic of the table of contents, where the name is "DeMarco", with no space. I've varianted it now. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:51, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
Tiny Dragons
Just heads up on an author disambiguation involving your verified: here. Annie (talk) 17:39, 31 July 2023 (EDT)
- Looks good. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:08, 4 August 2023 (EDT)
Mothra
https://picclick.com/Sanrio-SF-Bunko-30A-Rosalind-ash-moth-174916262653.html; I'd been adding links and stuff to Rosalind Ashe novels when I came across that sale; beautiful cover that's not on any editions on ISFDB, so if you can find out more you may want to enter that edition. --Username (talk) 17:59, 3 August 2023 (EDT)
- Done here, and another one here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:07, 4 August 2023 (EDT)
Goodnight, Mr. James
Your verified Robots Through the Ages, has Goodnight, Mr. James as a short story. There is a more widely appearing Good Night, Mr. James as a novelette. Would you mind double checking the length of your version and, as appropriate, either update the length & variant or add a note indicating this is a truncated version? If you need to compare the text, the original magazine version is here. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:29, 13 August 2023 (EDT)
- I'll check. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:27, 17 August 2023 (EDT)
Genius Loci
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5740518; Page count, both Roman and regular, are off, and "editor's note" is really foreword. I didn't check page numbers or story titles or anything like that. Also, the reprint years later with a different cover is 350 pages shorter on here; that can't be right. --Username (talk) 13:08, 13 August 2023 (EDT)
- I'll have to check my copy. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:25, 17 August 2023 (EDT)