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鏡の国のアリス

When you have a moment, could you please take a look at this Japanese title? I am not seeing any differences between the parent title and its variant, so I am wondering if I am missing something or if they need to be merged. TIA! Ahasuerus 06:33, 1 May 2022 (EDT)

Yeah, they were the same thing. I unvarianted them and then merged them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:54, 2 May 2022 (EDT)
Thanks! Ahasuerus 15:38, 2 May 2022 (EDT)

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

I accepted this submission and this submission (which impact your verified pubs) per this discussion. The second submission is showing a "Mismatched double quotes" warning, but as far as I can tell that was in the original also. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:23, 8 May 2022 (EDT)

Fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:01, 9 May 2022 (EDT)

Shaun Jeffrey

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5310781; There's no date because the story was imported into an anthology with the same date as in this edit, an importation that you approved at the same time that you rejected this. Un-reject this. --Username 19:29, 12 May 2022 (EDT)

I didn't say there wasn't a date. I said you didn't provide a reason for the date change. Please always provide a reason for the changes you submit. Thank you. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:39, 12 May 2022 (EDT)
Also, the importation submissions appeared after this submission, so I had no way to know you had submitted the importations. I work through them in the order they were submitted. This is another reason to include a reason. Something as simple as "It was originally printed in an anthology with an earlier date" would work. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:41, 12 May 2022 (EDT)

Cemetery Dance Artist

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5311260; That's not part of his name, that's a photo studio or something similar, like all the cover artists on ISFDB with / Fotolia after their name. Whoever entered this entered it as if Stone was Wildsmith's last name; he has a separate record with 7 Harry Potter covers. --Username 20:49, 12 May 2022 (EDT)

That makes sense. I haven't run into too many of those myself. I've updated the entry. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:00, 12 May 2022 (EDT)

Legacy of the Darksword cover image

I've uploaded a new scan for the fourth printing of [1] that could match your ISBN based Amazon image for your PVed 1st printing. cover. --Glenn 18:38, 15 May 2022 (EDT)

Cheshire Crossing

Can you take another look at the various publications of this title? I suspect the first four (#1 to 4) are a serialization of the story, and should be type SERIAL, not SHORTFICTION. Also, I believe e-books don't get pagenumbers, and the 2019 title is varianted to the 2008 title, but title and author are exactly the same. Shouldn't these be merged instead? I found these on the "Variant Title Length Mismatches" cleanup report. Thanks for checking, --Willem 17:07, 20 May 2022 (EDT)

They were released individually and not on a specific schedule as individual web comics. They were never collected as one story until the Weir had Anderson redo all the artwork. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:02, 19 June 2022 (EDT)

Myth & Magic

Perhaps you missed my response here? I uploaded scans of price and copyright page a week ago, and would like to delete these again. Thanks, --Willem 17:13, 20 May 2022 (EDT)

Hiyoko Kurisu

Cross Infinite World has published Rapunzel of the Magic Item Shop by Hiyoko Kurisu. As far as I can tell, this novel has not appeared in Japanese, at least not as a book. It may have been serialized online, but Google has been no help. Would you happen to have any ideas? TIA! Ahasuerus 08:42, 25 May 2022 (EDT)

Done! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:02, 25 May 2022 (EDT)
Thanks! Ahasuerus 13:25, 25 May 2022 (EDT)

Reject

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5331548; The reason for the change is that's the title in both books it appears in, both of which I did edits for very recently, as seen by clicking the edit history for both books. http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5332365; The reason for the date change is that's the date it was first published, as seen by clicking the OCLC link in the edition on ISFDB and seeing the many 1979 editions when you click "View all editions and formats". --Username 18:55, 8 June 2022 (EDT)

Thanks! Next time, please include all that information in the submission note. When you submit something and give no reason for it, We don't have any way to read your mind to see where the information is from. Given the volume of your submissions, we don't have time to spend trying to figure out why you might have submitted a change. Please use the submission note field to save everyone a lot of hassle. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:04, 8 June 2022 (EDT)
Thanks! Next time, maybe mods who accept my multiple edits for a book shouldn't leave 1 edit unaccepted because then the next random mod who comes along doesn't know about the previous edits for that book and thinks this is just a random edit with no connection to anything else. Also, next time the regular title date is changed to an earlier date than the edition(s) on ISFDB that means whoever entered those editions didn't bother to enter that date or didn't know there was an earlier edition; in those cases, WorldCat's your friend (and I assume you're going to un-reject that edit, too, eventually, right?). Thanks! --Username 19:33, 8 June 2022 (EDT)
It's your responsibility to make sure each individual submission has everything needed for a mod to make a decision about the submission. Assuming that the same mod will be working on all related submissions is completely unrealistic. Once a mod gets into reviewing submissions, they may not necessarily look at the full list of submissions as they can simply click on the "Next Submission" button that appears once a submission is handled. If more than one of us are working through the submissions at the same time, it's possible every other submission is being handled by a different mod. So please make sure every individual submission you make includes whatever links or comments are needed for a decisions to be made. We shouldn't have to redo all of the research you already did just so we can review your submission.
As for this particular submission, I unrejected it when I made my first reply. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:44, 8 June 2022 (EDT)

Reject II: The Quickening

1) http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?50036; Notice where it says "month of publication" and "first edition". 2) Unmerging of Henderson's Place/The Girl with the Summer Eyes is because I made an edit for Night Terrors issue recently and changed a few things including changing this title to the shorter one as it appears in that zine, but longer title was used for Castle's collections so I was told by RTrace to unmerge or variant or break the child or whatever you're supposed to do in such cases. 3) I see you uploaded image of Kurt W. Aigner so that's done; I wouldn't waste my time "fixing" book covers used for author images because there were thousands and thousands of them I've come across, I've added many of my own, and nobody really cares like some of you think they do whether you use a cover; in many cases that's the only place where an obscure author is pictured, no photos being available online. Most publishers are probably glad that their books are linked on a site with hundreds of thousands of users like this one, money being all that matters to most of them. 4) I just cancelled something a few minutes ago but I've already forgotten what it was; something about a price change, I think? You wrote something about 2 and 7 and someone not being around for a year and opening a discussion on the moderator board and I lost interest and just killed it. --Username 17:46, 15 June 2022 (EDT)

Please provide the links to the submissions for 2-4. It's very difficult to find them otherwise. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:37, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
I don't know if this is a rib or something, but I'm getting pretty tired of it. First of all, after seeing the note a previous editor wrote saying the March 1983 edition is the first edition I changed the preface's date to match, and after I just showed you that in the link I provided you didn't un-reject my wrongly rejected edit but just entered the date in your own edit as if you had discovered it needed changing. Second, the link to the issue of Night Terrors was added, by me, to the issue's record; why would I need to provide a link when it's already there? Third, there's no link to provide for the Aigner issue; I was just making a point that it's a waste of time for anybody to comb through the, probably, tens of thousands of author records that have a photo contained in a book cover, especially since many of them weren't just linked from Amazon or similar sites but actually uploaded to the Wiki. It would be a massive undertaking for a minor problem; if any specific publisher or person or whatever complained about a specific cover being used then that cover could be replaced, or left blank, but there's no need to replace most of them because no one's ever complained about them and almost certainly never will. Fourth, maybe you didn't understand the part where I said that I got tired of reading your explanation about what was wrong with it and just rejected it. You left a message on my board about it, RUBICON BEACH. Don't you remember that? If you want to contact some PV who may never respond and fix whatever needs fixing, be my guest. --Username 15:27, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
I don't have a way to look up your rejected edits (as far as I know). So, I entered the correction myself since I knew which one you meant. I don't have the submission links to the others (or the first one), so I don't have any way to unreject them and approve them. If you'd spend all the time you take to complain and talk about how wonderful you are, and instead applied it to working with people instead of against them, we'd be able to accomplish things much more quickly. Instead, we sit here talking past each other because you're too arrogant to do anything else than assume everyone is out to get you and trying to steal your thunder or something. You're obviously not in 3rd grade, so how about trying to act like an adult instead of playing one-up with everyone? I'm just going to ignore all of your submissions in the future since you can't seem to play nicely with anyone. I have better things to do with my time than try to read your mind and deal with your crap. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:56, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
You're going to ignore all of my submissions because I don't do exactly what you want me to do, and I'M the child? I assume you've been here for many more years than me, and yet you don't seem to know how to find rejected edits or a lot of other things that I assumed you would know, being a PV and all. As for working with other people, I wish I had the time to comb through my first few months here when I was trying to figure out what I was doing and received many extremely rude and unhelpful responses to my questions from other editors and moderators. My defensive attitude grew out of that, so if that bothers you, too bad. As for being great, I think judging from the amount of edits I've made (close to 30,000 in just a year and a half) or the thousands I've coaxed other people into making, I think my self-respect is pretty justified, especially since many of the moderators who've been here for years, many of whom have pompous bios on their home pages listing all their experience and accomplishments, constantly make mistakes that I, a complete amateur, have to fix, which makes me wonder how they were accepted as moderators in the first place since they can't even be bothered to check over their work before they submit it; some of the errors I've corrected go back 15 years to the earliest days of editing here being made open to the public. Many of the other current editors whose work I come across seem barely literate, so you should be happy to have someone who's accurate and actually checks their work, even if I don't follow the ISFDB "rules", which most of the mods can't even agree on much of the time. As I've explained before more than once, I lost interest in doing this a long time ago and am just continuing to do it to keep myself busy and away from other negative things I could be doing; most of the print publications have been abandoned, judging by the thousands of edits I've made for them, and many if not most of the people currently here just enter modern e-books which people looking for them can easily find themselves; whether that's because linking to Amazon ASIN's brings in money to the site or whether there's another reason is not for me to say. I've had a couple of false starts where I thought I'd be leaving the site which were stymied by unforeseen circumstances, so the thousands of edits I've made since then are a bonus because I really should have been gone from here months ago. You really don't handle most of my edits, anyway, so if you choose not to look at them anymore it would hardly make a difference; there was another mod, Dirk or something like that, who threw a fit last year because I had the nerve to disagree with him about replacing old covers with better ones and other things he apparently felt I shouldn't be correcting him about, and decided not to look at my edits anymore. Since then, I've had thousands and thousands of edits approved by other mods, so if you decide to quit, too, it won't make any difference. There's always someone else. Or you could grow up and stop complaining; World War III may be coming soon judging by the way things are going around the world, so these petty issues about relatively meaningless stuff concerning this site don't matter, since soon there may not be an internet to have a site on anymore. --Username 16:48, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
No, I'm choosing not to work on your submissions because you take too much effort. You're extremely high maintenance. They only times I've asked you to do things was when you were doing things outside of the norm, and I was trying to help you understand how to do them the correct way. As for finding rejected edits, I can find my own, but I've never seen a way to find those belonging to other editors (or it's been so long since I've tried to look them up that I've forgotten how to find them). And there's a difference between self-respect and arrogance. You toot your own horn all the time, and you denigrate other editors all the time. You're a bully, and you don't know how to work well with others. Sorry if that seems harsh, but sometimes reality is harsh. I know I have my own quirks, but I do try to get along with others and not put them down. And I'm not quitting or leaving ISFDB. I'm redirecting my energy and time toward things that are far less stressful to deal with. No need to reply. Go play somewhere else, please. Thank you. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:44, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
And now I've found the link that lets me see rejected submissions for everyone. It was in the Moderator submenu, but it doesn't appear on all the database pages, so it wasn't there when I went looking for it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:48, 16 June 2022 (EDT)

Antares Dawn

For Antares Dawn, would you mind if I:

  1. Change the page count to [8]+310
  2. Add a scanned cover
  3. Add the map on page [7] as "Foldspace Chart: Antares Cluster/Napier Sector (map)" by Shelly Shapiro along with a note about the map artist.
  4. Remove the invalid LCCN from External and add appropriate note.

Thanks! Phil 08:21, 19 June 2022 (EDT)

Sure. The apparently-correct LCCN is 98811670 per this search. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:59, 19 June 2022 (EDT)
Thanks. I replaced the bad LCCN with the one you provided when I made the other changes. Phil 17:58, 19 June 2022 (EDT)

Edna Worthley Underwood canonical name

Recall from early this spring ISFDB:Moderator noticeboard#Edna Worthley Underwood canonical name. Your prompt assent remains the only reply. Perhaps by presenting the "all the evidence" with links I frightened all others from reading the note. Or others may have supposed that you actually made the change. Is it one that you can make now? If I understand correctly, it's an update, for moderators only, which edits the Author record; no change in numerical author ID. Right? --Pwendt|talk 10:49, 26 June 2022 (EDT)

I can't remember: Is that how she is credited for every entry we have? If not, we'll need to make some pseudonyms. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:05, 27 June 2022 (EDT)

So You Want to Live the Slow Life? A Guide to Life in the Beastly Wilds 1

Cross Infinite World strikes again -- So You Want to Live the Slow Life? A Guide to Life in the Beastly Wilds 1 appears to be an English translation of an unpublished Japanese novel (there are indications that the manga version may have been published in Japan.) Would you happen to know more about this series? TIA! Ahasuerus 19:29, 2 July 2022 (EDT)

I will look into it. Sorry for the slow reply. I was on vacation last week. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:30, 11 July 2022 (EDT)
Thanks! Ahasuerus 13:17, 11 July 2022 (EDT)
Okay, I think I've done as much as I can. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:18, 11 July 2022 (EDT)
Excellent! Ahasuerus 19:21, 11 July 2022 (EDT)

Unfettered II

Can you please double check the title of story starting on page 341 in Unfettered II? It is currently listed as "A Duel of Evils" (which matches the ToC), but in my version the full title is given as "A Duel of Evils; or, The Fall of Kethia"? If yours matches, I will update our copy and then ask verifiers of other editions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:27, 13 July 2022 (EDT)

I'll have to check when I get home tonight. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:34, 13 July 2022 (EDT)
Sorry, took me a little longer to check and reply. It is "A Duel of Evils; or, The Fall of Kethia" on the actual page of the story. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:44, 15 July 2022 (EDT)
Made updated for our version and pinged verifiers for others. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:21, 16 July 2022 (EDT)
Sounds good. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:46, 18 July 2022 (EDT)

やけっぱち大作戦

I've never did anything in Japanese before, so could you check out my listing of this book? If I did it right, I'll add the rest of the translations of Faust's work. MLB 05:13, 21 July 2022 (EDT)

It was partially right. The transliteration is "Yakeppachi Daisakusen" rather than "Yakechi Daigeki" (that would be やけち大劇). I've fixed it. Feel free to have me check any of the others you do. People do that all the time here. (^_^) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:59, 22 July 2022 (EDT)
Thanks. MLB 05:22, 22 July 2022 (EDT)

これが最後の大博打

I have two more for you to check over. The first is これが最後の大博打 and the second is 狙われた使節団. Could you check these out also? Sorry to keep bothering you. MLB 06:36, 22 July 2022 (EDT)

Those have all been updated now. And no worries. I like fixing things like this. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:11, 22 July 2022 (EDT)

コーポレイト・ウォーズ

● Time to bother you about two more books. The first is コーポレイト・ウォーズ (Part 1 of 2) and the second is コーポレイト・ウォーズ (Part 2 of 2). Could you check these out also? Sorry to keep bothering you, but these are the last ones. I think. MLB 22:37, 22 July 2022 (EDT)

Okay, these have been corrected. You had the parts mixed up, and I changed them to the Japanese way of titling parts since that's how we do it here. And again, don't worry about "bothering" me. I like fixing these kinds of things. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:49, 26 July 2022 (EDT)
Also, I fixed the varianting. Instead of creating a series like you did, the two Japanese volumes should have been varianted to the original title. I've fixed this for you, so you can see how they are attached. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:57, 26 July 2022 (EDT)

Dead-End Memories

Hello,

When you have a chance, can you look at this one and see if you can figure out the Japanese title of the story and sort out the transliteration of the collection title (and add other stories that my be relevant to us eventually if any). Thanks! Annie 18:53, 26 July 2022 (EDT)

Done! I added all of the stories from the collection in Japanese. If any turn out to not be genre, we can always delete them. Do we know if anyone here is picking up the English book? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:09, 27 July 2022 (EDT)
Thanks! Based on the English descriptions, I don't think that all of them are genre... But as you said, we can always delete anyway. Not sure if I am getting to that one - too many books, not enough time :) Annie 12:18, 27 July 2022 (EDT)

Skeleton Crew

You have verified the pubs containing Skeleton Crew (2017) and Skeleton Crew (2018). Normally we'd just merge duplicate titles, but since these appeared in two different Expanding Universe anthologies, was this a duplicate (so it should be merged) or was the title reused for a new story (in which case we need title notes)? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:29, 6 August 2022 (EDT)

I will check when I get home. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:47, 8 August 2022 (EDT)
They are indeed the same story. I have merged the titles. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:28, 10 August 2022 (EDT)

Possible Database Typos

Can you double check the following possible database typos?

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:10, 9 August 2022 (EDT)

They are indeed typos, and both have been fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:29, 10 August 2022 (EDT)

The Jungle Book

I approved this submission adding the pub series to one of your verified pubs. Looks like ElectricStarboard has similar submissions affecting more of your verified pubs. Do you want to handle them yourself, be consulted in advance by the submitter, or let them be reviewed as they come up? John Scifibones 08:36, 21 August 2022 (EDT)

As they come up is fine. If it's just adding them to that particular pub series, I don't need to be asked. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:23, 24 August 2022 (EDT)

尘土之山

Can you have a look at this submission, and approve if this can be accepted? Thanks! MagicUnk 11:44, 31 August 2022 (EDT)

I don't know Chinese. It looks like they are changing the title, but didn't explain why. I'd put it on hold and ask them the reason for the change. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:49, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
OK - will do. Sorry about that. MagicUnk 15:21, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
No worries. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:30, 31 August 2022 (EDT)

The Mammoth Book of Awesome Comic Fantasy

Please see this conversation. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:25, 4 September 2022 (EDT)

Back Cover Images

Reference this discussion: Back cover images do not go into the cover field. They are entered as interior art with "bc" as the page number. See "Artwork" under Template:TitleFields:Title. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:46, 17 September 2022 (EDT)

Okay. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:39, 17 September 2022 (EDT)

翡翠城市

Hello, when you have a chance, can you add a transliteration to the elements of this one and its author and fix whatever else I got wrong (I am not sure if this is the correct form of the author name - there seems to be a dot on the title page between the two names which I am not sure if we should record or if it is typeface thing). Thanks! Annie (talk) 16:44, 29 September 2022 (EDT)

Done! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:43, 30 September 2022 (EDT)
So we record the dot. Noting that for next time :) Thanks! Annie (talk) 15:45, 30 September 2022 (EDT)
Yes. Amazon often leaves it out (or replaces it with a Latin space), so copying from there doesn't always help. It's used pretty much all the time for foreign names so Japanese people will know where the parts of the names are. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:49, 30 September 2022 (EDT)
As I said, I did wonder if it is part of the name or if it is a typographical convention/oddity or something else. I know that Amazon is normalizing names - it does it on all its versions so I look at the title pages when I can. :) Except with languages I cannot read, it takes awhile to figure out what is part of the name and what is on (for example in most Central European languages names are in different cases on pages (especially artists, narrators and translators but also authors when we get them from text and not from the page itself) and you actually need to get it back to the Nominative for recording because the form printed means "by name" and not just "name". That I know how to do and how to untangle). So I ask when I see something I am not so sure about:) Thanks again! Annie (talk) 16:03, 30 September 2022 (EDT)