Hello, Maybrick, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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- Wiki Conventions - How things are usually done on this wiki.
- Help:How to upload images to the ISFDB wiki
Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.
Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.
I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Mhhutchins 18:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
I had to reject your submission to add a publication record for this magazine title. Each issue of a periodical should be entered as a separate publication record. Feel free to do this using the data on the Fiction Mags index. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:36, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
BTW, note that the editor field of the publication record is given as "uncredited" because he isn't actually credited in the issue. Per ISFDB standards, the record is then varianted to credit the actual editor (Melvin R. Colby). Mhhutchins 18:51, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
The Liquid Man
Thanks for pointing out that The Liquid Man was originally published in Fantastic Adventures, September 1941 as by "Bernard C. Gilford"! Although we make an effort to connect original pulp publications with later reprints, there are still gaps in our coverage and this was one of them.
I have set up Bernard C. Gilford as a pseudonym for C. B. Gilford and turned the 1941 version into a variant of the 1969 book. There is a fair amount of complexity when dealing with magazines as described in Help:Use of the SERIAL type and Help:How to connect serials to titles, so I figured it would be easier if I did it myself rather than try to walk you through a complex multi-submission process.
As far as the issue of "rejecting" versus "redirecting" submitted edits goes, I am afraid the way the ISFDB software functions, there is no way to redirect or edit a submission. The reviewing moderator has only two choices when dealing with a submission which has valid data that was not entered in the right format:
- approve the submission and then change what was entered, or
- reject the submission and implement the proposed changes in a different way
There is nothing personal about either "rejecting" or "approving" a submission. It's just a question of what is easier and less time-consuming in each case. In the case of "Uncanny Tales" above the reviewing moderator decided that it was easier to reject the submission and enter the data in a different way, but the important thing is that the data was added to the database. Your contributions are appreciated -- thanks again! Ahasuerus 00:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
How to respond to Wiki messages
Re: "there was no message link at your site", you can reply to messages left on this page by clicking the "" link displayed at the top of each section. If the system asks you to sign on, please use your ISFDB user name and password.
Re: "any valid submission needs to be added to the site and some regular way of doing this MUST be made sooner or later", it is true that, as you said, "[s]ome users are not keen on learning data entry procedures while others are very familiar with it". Those who are not keen on learning the data entry procedures can leave a note on the Community Portal: click on the "+" sign at the top of that page (which will create a new section) and post the information there. A moderator will see your note and incorporate the data into the database. If he has follow-up questions, he will ask them on this page.
Re: "the site ought to take any data that dates before the year 2000 especially seriously", we have many editors and users with specialized interests. Some enter authors' biographical details, some work on magazines, some enter language-specific data, etc. We don't assign tasks, so people mostly work on the areas that interest them. That said, our coverage of pre-2000 SF is generally superior to our overage of more recent works. If nothing else, there was less SF published in the 19th and 20th centuries and it has been out long enough to be noticed and cataloged. Ahasuerus 19:29, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
The Secret Kingdom
Hi. I have a question about your submission of a new publication of The Secret Kingdom in 1929. Were you only trying to inform the moderators that this entry was incorrectly dated 1926 instead of 1929, or do you have information about a printing of the story as a book in 1929? I did correct the date, but I have your submission on hold. Thanks. --MartyD 11:38, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
- Hi again. Having heard nothing, I'm going to assume you were just using the submission to notify us about the date, and I am going to reject it; as I mentioned above, I did fix the date. If there should be a 1929 book, please resubmit. Thanks. --MartyD 03:01, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello, please voice your problem with tags that seem invasive to you at the Moderator Noticeboard. Commuicating with us via submissions is not the easiest and most efficient way. Thanks. Hauck 10:02, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
In order to facilitate better communication (and provide people a link to your user and talk pages), it is recommended to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to help you out. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:54, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
- This would still be very helpful. Just type the four tildes (~~~~) to sign your posts instead of typing out "--Maybrick". It then signs your username,dates the post, and adds a link to your user page and talk page. This makes it so people don't have to go to the history of an article to find a link to your user and talk pages. Please let me know if you have any questions. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:12, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Please don't use the edit submissions for comments, requests, etc. It should only be used for actual edits. If you have a comment, etc. then please post them at ISFDB:Community Portal (as a new topic by using the "+" symbol at the top of the page). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:40, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Regarding the content of the note. Please feel free to add any stories in the Fedogan & Bremer collection to a series. I haven't read the stories, so I can't speak to whether these are straight detective stories, or supernatural detective stories. The cover of that collection would suggest the latter. However, if you are certain that there are no supernatural elements to the stories, you can also add the non-genre flag. I would consider Wandrei to be above the threshold and thus the stories would be eligible regardless of their speculative content. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:50, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I've rejected your edit on two grounds: 1) the cover shows only Crawford as given author and the record should reflect this and only this, 2) "pretty much acknowledged" is not enough evidence of joint authorship (that should be materialised at title level with a variant eventually if proof is given). Hauck 20:09, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have rejected your edits again. As Hauck says above, even if we knew for certain that Glasby wrote this, we would not change the publication record. The publication record should show exactly what the the publication states. Instead, we would establish a pseudonym relationship and variant the title record to a new title record under Glasby's name. As far as SFE, it states that Glasby wrote a single short fiction story under the name Crawford. At 160 pages, this could be a novella, but it would be pushing it on page count. The problem with house names is that there is no guarantee that other writers weren't also writing under the Crawford name so the SFE3 statement doesn't really prove anything. I did find a Glasby's Dark Legion publication (which I will add to the database). It could be a re-print of the Crawford book under Glasby's name. But without being able to compare them, there is no way to know for certain. I will add notes to both records indicating the possibility, but the evidence is still too weak to make an actual variant. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:33, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Images of Malcolm Jameson and Milton Lesser
I've had to reject your edit to add this photo of Macolm Jameson to his author profile, as we do not have permission from the site owner to link from www.wendymaclure.net. Is there perhaps an image at Luminist you could link to? That would be fine, as we have Luminist's permission (and a complete list of sites we can link to in this way is here). Thanks. PeteYoung 02:11, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
- I did the same with the proposed image for Milton Lesser, as we do not have permission to link to openmedia.com. See ISFDB:Image_linking_permissions for a full explanation. --MartyD 06:59, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
I had to reject your addition of an image to Harry Bates. We can only use images from sites that have explicitly given us permission to do so. See ISFDB:Image linking permissions for a list of such sites. If you wish to contact the site to see about permission, the instructions to do so are below the list. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:10, 19 September 2017 (EDT)
Never mind. That picture looks to be some sculptor with same name. Maybrick 17:33, 22 September 2017 (EDT)
Incorrect publication data
Hi, please feel free to make changes to publication records, especially those with no primary verifiers, when you come across problems. It's easier for the moderators to review the information you've assembled than for them to go assemble the information and make the changes themselves. I did fix up Satans of Saturn. Thanks. --MartyD 23:08, 14 August 2019 (EDT)
The Second Man
If The Second Man is indeed a novel, we handle that differently - we will make it a serial (of 1 - with a special way to record that) and then connect to the novel. If it is a novella that was expanded, they do not get connected. As it looks like it is a novel indeed, I did that here. See if this looks correct to you now. Annie 21:15, 9 October 2019 (EDT) Correct Maybrick 14:04, 12 October 2019 (EDT)
Knight Rider 3: Hearts of Stone
A few small things:
- We usually remove the series names from the titles unless they are integral and the title page shows it (and the editor thinks the title always contain it). As Knight Rider is the series name and 3 the sequence, I stripped it from the title itself - it is in the series name after all. if you really think it should be part of the title, I can restore it.
- Only one ISBN please - we will calculate the other. For a 1984 book, the ISBN-10 is what we want :)
- When you source the book from GR, add the ID as an external identifier. Especially when you do not add any other source :)
- Target in this era is recorded as Target / W. H. Allen. See this for more details]. I fixed.
- On a further review and based on the rest of the books and second author added. I will also add the Pinnacle edition. Annie 22:23, 29 October 2019 (EDT)
Can you explain what you mean by ID <?> I do not see anything like that at the GR page. Also, the series entries all have KR in the title. Take a look for yourself. Maybrick 14:49, 31 October 2019 (EDT)
- When you go to the GR page (this one for example), look at the address bar. The last part is "9078323-knight-rider-3". The number at the start(9078323) is the ID (and this is what I added here.
- Yes, I know for the names - see my second note above. I added them there for now. Technically, the prefered practice is not to have them but as we have a PV, that needs clearing with them and is on my list of things to do. :) Annie 14:57, 31 October 2019 (EDT)
- And yes - I am monitoring your page :) When you post on mine, try to post in the talk section and not on my User page - I reverted the changes there. :) 15:00, 31 October 2019 (EDT)
Walt Disney's The Misadventures of Merlin Jones
Hi, I approved your submission for Walt Disney's The Misadventures of Merlin Jones but, as you can already see from the title, I have completely rebuilt it. I did so based upon the actual title page, that I was able to trace on eBay. We take title and author as printed on the title page, hence 'Mary Carey' and not 'M.V. Carey' -which we would have entered as 'M. V. Carey' if it was right. Also note how an illustrator is to be entered, or external IDs (best go in edit mode on the publication -and not submit afterwards, but use the 'back' button). Another thing is that the note field is not meant for 'qv below'.--Dirk P Broer 08:12, 15 January 2020 (EST)
You would have to pay me as an employee to actually follow your feedback. It's too much to expect for my type of user. My infrequent entries may have to handled like this one in future. Thanks for the corrections, but they involve too many technicalities to expect to get right next time from infrequent users. For example, I looked for "interior artwork" and that does not seem to be anywhere for an old entry let alone a new one. I'm sure you could elaborate further on what to do, but as I say, it is just not worth the time : that would be too much like unpaid labor. Try to keep this in mind for other users like myself so that you do not waste too much of your time, either, expecting too much. Maybrick 19:47, 25 January 2020 (EST)
I am tagging the 1994 story Fan by Geoff Ryman as postpunk. This is a cyberpunk derivative that is chronologically after core cyberpunk, where society is more comfortable but relatively helpless with the given technology, but not as socialized yet as in for example Ian Banks' 1987 story A Gift from the Culture. Nor does it concern itself so much with the rapid and advanced tech of postcyperpunk themes since its manned space age does not extend beyond the solar system. I myself have written a story like this titled The Lights Off Tension Way. Anyone who wants to publish it should let me know. Maybrick 19:50, 9 July 2020 (EDT)
Earthmen Bearing Gifts
If you find titles that are exact duplicates (same story with the same title and author), you can use the "Check for Duplicate Titles" option to merge them. See Help:How to merge titles for more details. I have merged the two "Earthmen Bearing Gifts" titles. Thanks for finding this. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:03, 6 December 2020 (EST)
Maybrick, there is no need to submit an edit with no changes in order to ask a question. In the future, just ask on the Help Desk or Community Portal. Look at the author's name for the answer to your question. This title is for the publications which credit 'Paul McAuley', one of the alternate names for 'Paul J. McAuley', as the author. John Scifibones 22:46, 3 May 2022 (EDT)
- I'm glad your new submission regarding this title was accepted. When you post on a talk page, please don't post on an unrelated thread. If it is a new conversation, start a new thread. Since it was related to this post, you could have posted here, I would have responded. Thanks John Scifibones 14:19, 5 May 2022 (EDT)
This submission in not getting any attention. I request a moderator or someone to look into it :
Submission 5546016 NewPub 2023-01-18 04:39:00 Maybrick - Creepier than a Whorehouse Kiss
- Done. See publication. Just a reminder, we regularize case for English language titles. See bullet point Case here. I also added the image for you. Thanks for entering, John Scifibones 12:14, 30 January 2023 (EST)
Colin Kapp's photo
Thanks for submitting Colin Kapp's photo! Your "Note to Moderator" reads:
- Message was sent to Gateway to let us know if they have a problem with using their photos. So far they do not have a problem with it.
Could you please specify who gave the permission to link to www.sfgateway.com and quote what they wrote? Once we have the information, we will add it to ISFDB:Image_linking_permissions and update the ISFDB software to recognize "sfgateway.com" as a supported domain name. TIA! Ahasuerus (talk) 17:42, 16 May 2023 (EDT)
- Laura Smith of Hachette UK Enquiries: ' 01235 400 400 | * firstname.lastname@example.org. She wrote "Thank you for your email. Can I ask which authors so I can let the publicity teams know?" I replied "Kapp for now but there will probably be more later."Maybrick (talk) 14:10, 17 May 2023 (EDT)
- Thanks for the update! Have they gotten back to you since your reply? If they have, what did their e-mail say? The reason I am asking for the specifics is that there can be a difference between:
- letting us upload one of their images to the ISFDB server, and
- letting us link directly to an image stored on their servers the way the Colin Kapp submission does it
- Better safe than sorry :-) Ahasuerus (talk) 16:19, 17 May 2023 (EDT)
- Thanks for the update! Have they gotten back to you since your reply? If they have, what did their e-mail say? The reason I am asking for the specifics is that there can be a difference between:
- I have a dozen photo submissions left for SF Gateway and they are working on the permissions from the publicity teams. While that is going on they should not be rejected. I will keep up with it here. I'll alo be looking into FantLab for some.12:36, 18 May 2023 (EDT)
- Sounds good. I have put the submissions on hold while their team is working on the issue. Please let me know when things are sorted out. Ahasuerus (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2023 (EDT)
- As I keep seeing "the publicity team", I just want to make sure we are all on the same page - had you asked them if we can use (aka copy here and reuse) their images or if we can deep-link to them (aka link and show directly from their storage)? The two actions and permissions are very different - usually a publicity team can grant the first; the latter adds usage and traffic to the site without giving them visitors so usually require web-admin or someone else technical permission. Annie (talk) 12:54, 18 May 2023 (EDT)
- They may grant permission for certain images only but I will ask for permission to copy-and-reuse these images only. Will that be possible? This is what I just emailed them - let me know if it is inaccurate : ISFD moderators would like permission to copy-and-reuse any of the photo images if possible. The ones specified at least. They say a publicity team can give permission for this but a permission to deep-link the images only will just add traffic to your site (from our use of the images) but not increase the visitors to your site. So permission to copy-and-reuse all of the images would probably be best since it can bring visitors to both websites. Permission for copy-and reuse of certain images can do that also to a more limited extent. Maybrick (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2023 (EDT)
- Orion Publicity Dept Enquiries has given permission to copy-and-reuse any of the images "as it is not for profit". I have some pending edits for this at present.Maybrick (talk) 17:14, 23 May 2023 (EDT)
- "Copy and reuse" presumably means that we are allowed to upload copies of some of their images to our server, then link to the uploaded image from each affected author record -- please see Help:How to upload images to the ISFDB wiki for details. This is different from your outstanding submissions like this one, which would link directly to SFGateway/Orion's servers. Ahasuerus (talk) 18:13, 23 May 2023 (EDT)
I am not sure whether you meant to blank the main ISFDB Wiki page and delete the exchanges on this Talk page or whether your account has been compromised. Please respond here to let us know what happened. In the meantime I have rolled back the changes. Ahasuerus (talk) 20:16, 23 May 2023 (EDT)
- Yes I deleted talk page - and please delete the account also if possible.Maybrick (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2023 (EDT)