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== Archives ==
 
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[[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive1|Archive1]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive2|Archive2]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive3|Archive3]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive-2018-2|2018-part2]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive-2019-2020|2019-2020]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive-2021|2021]]
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[[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive1|Archive1]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive2|Archive2]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive3|Archive3]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive-2018-2|2018-part2]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive-2019-2020|2019-2020]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive-2021|2021]], [[User_talk:Anniemod/Archive-2022-2023|2022-2023]]
  
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== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?564308 Company Town] ==
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== John Bowen ==
  
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Hi, as the help for entering the date of publications explicitly says to use the publication date stated within a book [''For books, to identify the publication date, try to find a statement (often on the verso of the title page) that says something like "Published in June 2001"''], it seems that the date should be changed to 2016-05-00, for your verified publication. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 13:36, 12 January 2022 (EST)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869322; Should have (21st century) added to author; other edition has it to differ this Bowen from the older one. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:22, 13 January 2024 (EST)
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: No - that date is correct and has a valid secondary source. The book stays as it is. Thanks. If you would like to argue this, please open a discussion about not allowing secondary sources to date books. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:41, 12 January 2022 (EST)
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: Yep - thanks. Fixed. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:59, 29 January 2024 (EST)
  
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== Two variant questions for "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg" ==
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== Fixer addition ==
  
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Hi Annie. I'm reading my way through "The Very Best of Barry N. Malzberg". Aside from the issue of needing to update the existing ebook and also add new ebooks for the new ISBN numbers (discussed separately), I have discovered that two of the stories that are currently listed as first published in this book were actually previously published under different names. (There could be more stories like this in here)
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Annie, I have [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?72882 Water Dragon Publishing] reasonably complete, but it should be added to Fixer's list.  I'm pinging you since you post all the requests on Fixer's talk page. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 11:37, 12 February 2024 (EST)
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: I will ask it to be added to the recognized publishers - if it is not there already :) Which may or may not help - there are way too many of them. Not being on the list does not mean that it is ignored at the moment. The requests on the Talk page of Fixer are cleanup and not really how we add publishers to the recognized list. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:39, 12 February 2024 (EST)
  
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1. "The Wooden Grenade" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1624243) is listed as first published in this book. The Acknowledgements/copyright info in the book notes that it was first published as "The Sense of the Fire" in Escapade, July 1967. "The Sense of the Fire" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?97954) is listed in ISFDB as first published in Escapade in July 1967, and then reprinted in two editions of Malzberg's "Out from Ganymede" (1974). I have checked with Willem H, the last primary verifier for "Out From Ganymede", and it is the same text as the one I am reading. There is no doubt this is the same story. Next is the question of which is the canonical title? This story has apparently been published 3 times only, first 2 as "The Sense of the Fire" and then reprinted in "The Very Best of..." as "The Wooden Grenade". I lean towards making "The Wooden Grenade" the canonical title, as I assume that Barry N. Malzberg participated in choosing the titles for "The Very Best of". I'd appreciate your opinion and guidance. Thanks[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:42, 13 January 2022 (EST)
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:: Water Dragon Publishing has been added to Fixer's "Recognized Publishers" list. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 18:02, 22 February 2024 (EST)
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: As a rule - we always use the FIRST used title unless another title is better known/prevalent. Someone changes a title in a single publication does not make it so usually. The old title is used twice (that we know of), the new one only once - I'd use the original title as the canonical here if I was doing the variant. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:00, 13 January 2022 (EST)
 
  
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2. "The Shores of Suitability" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1624250) is listed as first published in this book. The Acknowledgements/copyright info here state that it was first published in Omni, June 1982. Omni, June 1982 features a story currently titled "Last Word (Omni, June 1982" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1225970). I checked Internet Archive, and it is the same story and it is correctly titled "Last Word" in the magazine. I lean towards making the title in "The Very Best of..." the canonical title, as I assume again that Barry N. Malzberg chose that title. Once again, I'd appreciate your opinion and guidance.
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== Upcoming Tor UK subimprints ==
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3. Needless to say, these will both need to be varianted.
 
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Thanks[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:42, 13 January 2022 (EST)
 
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: Same answer. The idea of the rule exception allowing a later title to become the canonical is to make sure that a story that was published once under 1 name and then 10 times under another do not get stuck under the original name. These two should stay with their original titles IMO - the author and/or an editor may have renamed them later but the new name is in a single publication. IF that ever changes, we can always reverse the direction but my basic rule is to keep it simple - don't use the exception from the rules unless it is really overwhelming. Hope that makes sense. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:00, 13 January 2022 (EST)
 
  
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::That all makes sense to me. I'll take care of this. Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 14:33, 13 January 2022 (EST)
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Just a very early heads up on [https://www.thebookseller.com/news/tor-launches-new-romantasy-and-horror-imprints-bramble-and-nightfire Bramble and Nightfire UK]; article says their first title is due November, so I guess it'll be a while before Fixer finds anything for them, although perhaps ebooks might show up earlier if they decide to make those simultaneous with US releases?
  
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== A question on "The Prentice Hall Anthology of Science Fiction and Fantasy" ==
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Apologies if my inactivity here is causing you extra workload; I haven't completely given up on contributing, but (a) dealing with current events have been taking more of my time, and (b) I'd already decided at the end of last year that I just couldn't work up the enthusiasm to work on the endless stream of stuff that the UK publishers are now putting out that I have zero interest in.  I do intend to try to fill in any gaps in UK coverage up to the end of 2023, and to submit 2024+ pubs that are things I have an interest in - which I don't think is *that* different from what most editors here do? - but someone else can deal with all the romantasy etc stuff, hopefully not just you alone... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 05:11, 22 February 2024 (EST)
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: People do what they are interested in :) Hopefully once Fixer gets rewritten, we will get a few more people working on new books but it is what it is.
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: Too early to even think of this imprint and I suspect that the US side will see them as Tor anyway - so we shall see them. But I will get the name to Fixer to be added to the recognized publishers. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 10:17, 22 February 2024 (EST)
  
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Hi Annie.
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== Jo Fletcher Books no more? ==
  
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I just acquired, for eventual reading, another one of the giant (doorstop) anthologies of 20th century SF and fantasy, "The Prentice Hall Anthology of Science Fiction and Fantasy", originally appearing in 2000. (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?36482) I have not checked in detail, but it sure appears the TOC for the two current ISFDB editions are the same, and perhaps one was cloned from the other (I can't tell).
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Just FYI, from [https://news.ansible.uk/a440.html the new issue of Ansible]:
  
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As is now my habit, I reviewed the TOC and contents to our ISFDB entries and found a few possible discrepancies. These discrepancies include the following:
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    Jo Fletcher is suffering the traditional fate of departed founding editors: Quercus has mass-emailed past and present Jo Fletcher Books authors with the ‘exciting news’ that JFB is being rebranded this month – or rather, absorbed into the parent company’s existing imprint Arcadia.
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1. "The Gray Wolf", George McDonald, p 208, (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?923573) does not show up in either TOC. It is in both the TOC and the body of the book in my tp version.
 
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2. "Introduction....", P 1, does not show up in either TOC. It is in my copy in both TOC and the body of the book.
 
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3. A. E. van Vogt's "The Weapons Shop" is listed as such in my copy, both TOC and body of the book and in the copyright info, which does match original publication in Astounding. It is listed as "The Weapon Shop" in the two current editions in ISFDB. I suspect this was a typo by someone on data entry, but could be wrong.
 
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4. A number of the page numbers for stories are off by 1 page in my TOC and body of the book, vs the two ISFDB editions. I am not sure what is going on here. My first suspicion is that whoever did the original ISFDB TOC was perhaps using the page the story title appeared on, and not the page the author bio is on for the story that immediately proceeds the title, which is how the TOC in my paper version is put together.
 
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5. Although minor, the "Index" and "Credits" (detailed copyright info) are not listed in either current ISFDB TOC, nor in the Notes. I assume these should be added to the Notes.
 
  
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I do have two questions for you.
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I've never heard of Arcadia, although the Bookseller indicates that the parent Quercus division acquired it in September 2021m and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?35021 it's in the database].  I see [https://twitter.com/arcadia_books the Twitter username has been changed], but not the display name is still Jo Fletcher Books.  The JFB corporate site seems unchanged, and [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wishing-Game-magical-realism-Picoult/dp/1529436281/ Amazon currently lists a June 2024 pub as from JFB].
  
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A. What would be the appropriate ISFDB standard practice for page number of the start of a story - location of actual title, or location of the author bio before the story?
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I'll update the publisher notes for both in a minute... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 11:42, 1 March 2024 (EST)
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B. The two existing editions have primary verifiers, with Markwood for the 2000 edition and MLB for the 2003. They both appear to be still active. The same questions apply to both. I assume I should reach out to both of them - please confirm.
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: Thanks for the heads up. We probably should wait and see how they handle the book title pages - I suspect that they have quite a lot in the process of being printed so for the next few months we may still see the old name popping up. And then there will be the hell of reprints for a bit. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:44, 1 March 2024 (EST)
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::First book from the publisher here is 1978 and obviously from a different Arcadia so some differentiator should be added to the name to separate it from the others. I added the cover some time ago but there seems to be no archived copy; text search for the author only finds 3 books and only this one, https://archive.org/details/catalogofcop11libr/page/192/mode/1up, has info about his novel including a much higher page count than what's on ISFDB. There's also a note in his record here which gives birth/death dates but writer wasn't sure if it's the same person. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:59, 1 March 2024 (EST)
  
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Best wishes.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 19:42, 20 January 2022 (EST)
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== Heruitgave Editions ==
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: Yep, talk to both PVs on that one - you can post one the page of one of them and then link to it on the page of the other one so the discussion stays in one place (especially if you are asking about the same elements).
 
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:* "The Gray Wolf", George McDonald - check with the PVs. Won't be the first time someone missed a story in a big anthology.
 
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:* Introduction: Same as the above
 
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:* A. E. van Vogt's "The Weapons Shop" - ditto
 
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:* Pages - I hate this question :) It comes down to "what is the contents here"?. I'd argue that you have a combo of an essay and story - we just do not index the essays because they are too short. We allow only one exception to the general rule of "The number of the page on which the content begins" - an illustration preceding the contents. But that help page needs clarification for cases like this one and where the story has a title page ahead of its text and all kinds of things like that... :) Adding that to the list of things we need to discuss...
 
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:* Notes - yes. Not mandatory but I like adding them so it is clear we did not miss them
 
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: Let me know if I missed something or if something does not make sense. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:49, 21 January 2022 (EST)
 
  
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::Annie, that all makes sense. On the page numbers, given that it's currently an edge case, I will start by confirming with the PVs where their page numbers came from. Assuming it is what I suspect (the other, less likely by possible situation would be an actual change in page number for a different printing by 1 page for some stories, which is possible), I propose to make a note of this on the Notes page for those stories, and not change the actual page numbers in the TOC. Depending upon how you look at it, it is probably not wrong. Let me know if you have more thoughts on this. Best wishes and thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 11:47, 23 January 2022 (EST)
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Isn't [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?12217 this] just a weirdness of Amazon UK sometimes putting the Dutch word for "reissue" into listings?  I've seen it before on a few pages in the past, and for example it's [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adventures-Tom-Bombadil-J-Tolkien/dp/0008700192?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE here] on an upcoming Tolkien reprint from a completely different publisher.
  
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== Hurray for Titan! ==
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I just did a quick grep over the pages my tools generate, and I can see "Heruitgave edition" has shown up for Hodderscape, Bloomsbury, Jo Fletcher, Farshore, Walker Books, Penguin, Orbit, Vintage, Fourth Estate, HarperVoyager, maybe others.
  
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Ever seen anything like this before?
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Maybe it's something that Ahasuerus could get Fixer to automatically filter out and/or handle more intelligently?  Of course, if I *really* wanted to avoid this problem, I would have found and submitted the publication that came from myself ;-) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 15:04, 6 March 2024 (EST)
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: Probably. I had been clearing it out in a lot of books lately but it looked as a special edition and it had usually been there on special editions so I made it a pub series so I can look into it again. I cleared it out (for now). Sometimes it takes a few books to make it clear what something is and is not -- so I usually use my gut feeling - and then adjust/fix when things appear different.
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: Fixer is better off printing what it knows - then a human (aka yours truly) can decide what to drop - that way we lose less information. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:41, 6 March 2024 (EST)
  
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[https://sf.ersatzculture.com/temp/carnival.png] (Screengrab, as I imagine you won't be able to properly see that Amazon UK page without a VPN)
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== Audible cleanup report ==
  
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Kobo GB does have it available to purchase and download now, as does Google Play Books, so I'm inclined to forget I saw that preorder date... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 14:31, 21 January 2022 (EST)
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Could you please take a look at [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Audible_ASIN_cleanup_report. this Audible discussion] when you are back? Thanks. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 07:11, 15 April 2024 (EDT)
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: Oh yes - that's one of Amazon's weirdnesses sometimes - rarely but happens now and then making me scratch my head. Usually means that the book is out but Amazon will get copies a bit later for one reason or another - or something like that. Second source to confirm one of those dates and all is good. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:55, 21 January 2022 (EST)
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: Will do later today. Sorry for the delay. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:22, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
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:: I'm now very glad I didn't make a statement on the discussion about pub dates asserting that I'd never seen any issues with vendors reporting ebook dates...
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:: I've submitted edits to correct the tp and ebook pubs, but could you have a look at [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?863561 the audiobook] on Amazon.com? There are no (UK) audio listings for this on Kobo or Google Play, nor on B&N (although I dunno if they do audio downloads?), and whilst Amazon UK has Dec 14th, which matches the US tp and ebook, I'd rather get confirmation from a second source, esp. for a messy case like this.  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 17:18, 21 January 2022 (EST)
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== White Spawn ==
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::: If the date does not get rescheduled, they tend to be ok. When they start moving... I play "follow the clues and whack-a-mole". It settles down once the book is out - but in the meantime, it can be a bit... funny. :)  
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::: Well, it is on Audible UK :) And Apple have it... [https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/firefly-carnival-the-firefly-series-book-6-unabridged/id1593403552 here]. Not all books are available on Google Play - I usually check the big 4 for audiobooks in English: Audible (US and/or UK - different records), Google Play, Kobo and Apple. Some books are exclusive to one of them. Some are excluded from one or more of them. It's... annoying. And there is another platform gearing up which never shares with Amazon/Audible which I never need to worry about with Fixer because all from Fixer is Amazon's first so they never show up - but if someone wants to chase them...  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?555647; Does the darker image on SFE better match your copy or should the Amazon image remain? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:38, 17 April 2024 (EDT)
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::: Add to that that Blackstone's audiobooks can be missing from their site (like this one) - they MAY appear at one point but... it is one of those weird things. Unless they also have the physical disks. Then it gets easier. :)
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: Do you have a link to the SFE image? Meanwhile I will see if I can figure out where this book is stored at the moment :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:22, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
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::: I fixed this audiobook. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:48, 21 January 2022 (EST)
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::It's on the SFE site at https://sf-encyclopedia.com; type White Spawn in the search bar. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:46, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
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::: "Headword Search" returns: "Search for "white spawn" — no finds". Global Search throws you into [https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/laidlaw_marc the author page] which does not have this specific cover. So can you please provide a link to the page you saw it? :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 12:13, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
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::::You search for images on that site in the Gallery section on the right. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:23, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
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::::: Are you referring to [https://sf-encyclopedia.com/gallery.php?id=Laidlaw-WhiteSpawn.jpg this SFE page]? Keep in mind that some Web sites' search software can be IP-sensitive, which means that it may display different images (and other content items) depending on which IP address (assigned by your Internet provider) you are coming from. Amazon has been toying with this approach and it can get annoying when different people see different images, prices, etc.
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::::: SFE's software was originally written by a third party back when SFE was sponsored by a commercial entity and was supposed to drive Web traffic to certain pages. The software has been tweaked since they became independent, but there is no telling what algorithms are still lurking underneath the surface.
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::::: Given these uncertainties, it's always better to provide exact URLs. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 12:51, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
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::::::There was nothing wrong with the IP; as she said, she searched in the wrong area at the top, Headwords/Global, instead of the gallery section where you actually search for cover images on that site. Just letting her know so when I'm gone and she ever needs to find an image she'll know where to look. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:56, 24 April 2024 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 12:56, 24 April 2024

Archives

Archive1, Archive2, Archive3, 2018-part2, 2019-2020, 2021, 2022-2023

John Bowen

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?869322; Should have (21st century) added to author; other edition has it to differ this Bowen from the older one. --Username (talk) 11:22, 13 January 2024 (EST)

Yep - thanks. Fixed. Annie (talk) 17:59, 29 January 2024 (EST)

Fixer addition

Annie, I have Water Dragon Publishing reasonably complete, but it should be added to Fixer's list. I'm pinging you since you post all the requests on Fixer's talk page. John Scifibones 11:37, 12 February 2024 (EST)

I will ask it to be added to the recognized publishers - if it is not there already :) Which may or may not help - there are way too many of them. Not being on the list does not mean that it is ignored at the moment. The requests on the Talk page of Fixer are cleanup and not really how we add publishers to the recognized list. :) Annie (talk) 11:39, 12 February 2024 (EST)
Water Dragon Publishing has been added to Fixer's "Recognized Publishers" list. Ahasuerus (talk) 18:02, 22 February 2024 (EST)

Upcoming Tor UK subimprints

Just a very early heads up on Bramble and Nightfire UK; article says their first title is due November, so I guess it'll be a while before Fixer finds anything for them, although perhaps ebooks might show up earlier if they decide to make those simultaneous with US releases?

Apologies if my inactivity here is causing you extra workload; I haven't completely given up on contributing, but (a) dealing with current events have been taking more of my time, and (b) I'd already decided at the end of last year that I just couldn't work up the enthusiasm to work on the endless stream of stuff that the UK publishers are now putting out that I have zero interest in. I do intend to try to fill in any gaps in UK coverage up to the end of 2023, and to submit 2024+ pubs that are things I have an interest in - which I don't think is *that* different from what most editors here do? - but someone else can deal with all the romantasy etc stuff, hopefully not just you alone... ErsatzCulture (talk) 05:11, 22 February 2024 (EST)

People do what they are interested in :) Hopefully once Fixer gets rewritten, we will get a few more people working on new books but it is what it is.
Too early to even think of this imprint and I suspect that the US side will see them as Tor anyway - so we shall see them. But I will get the name to Fixer to be added to the recognized publishers. Annie (talk) 10:17, 22 February 2024 (EST)

Jo Fletcher Books no more?

Just FYI, from the new issue of Ansible: 

   Jo Fletcher is suffering the traditional fate of departed founding editors: Quercus has mass-emailed past and present Jo Fletcher Books authors with the ‘exciting news’ that JFB is being rebranded this month – or rather, absorbed into the parent company’s existing imprint Arcadia.

I've never heard of Arcadia, although the Bookseller indicates that the parent Quercus division acquired it in September 2021m and it's in the database. I see the Twitter username has been changed, but not the display name is still Jo Fletcher Books. The JFB corporate site seems unchanged, and Amazon currently lists a June 2024 pub as from JFB.

I'll update the publisher notes for both in a minute... ErsatzCulture (talk) 11:42, 1 March 2024 (EST)

Thanks for the heads up. We probably should wait and see how they handle the book title pages - I suspect that they have quite a lot in the process of being printed so for the next few months we may still see the old name popping up. And then there will be the hell of reprints for a bit. Annie (talk) 11:44, 1 March 2024 (EST)
First book from the publisher here is 1978 and obviously from a different Arcadia so some differentiator should be added to the name to separate it from the others. I added the cover some time ago but there seems to be no archived copy; text search for the author only finds 3 books and only this one, https://archive.org/details/catalogofcop11libr/page/192/mode/1up, has info about his novel including a much higher page count than what's on ISFDB. There's also a note in his record here which gives birth/death dates but writer wasn't sure if it's the same person. --Username (talk) 11:59, 1 March 2024 (EST)

Heruitgave Editions

Isn't this just a weirdness of Amazon UK sometimes putting the Dutch word for "reissue" into listings? I've seen it before on a few pages in the past, and for example it's here on an upcoming Tolkien reprint from a completely different publisher.

I just did a quick grep over the pages my tools generate, and I can see "Heruitgave edition" has shown up for Hodderscape, Bloomsbury, Jo Fletcher, Farshore, Walker Books, Penguin, Orbit, Vintage, Fourth Estate, HarperVoyager, maybe others.

Maybe it's something that Ahasuerus could get Fixer to automatically filter out and/or handle more intelligently? Of course, if I *really* wanted to avoid this problem, I would have found and submitted the publication that came from myself ;-) ErsatzCulture (talk) 15:04, 6 March 2024 (EST)

Probably. I had been clearing it out in a lot of books lately but it looked as a special edition and it had usually been there on special editions so I made it a pub series so I can look into it again. I cleared it out (for now). Sometimes it takes a few books to make it clear what something is and is not -- so I usually use my gut feeling - and then adjust/fix when things appear different.
Fixer is better off printing what it knows - then a human (aka yours truly) can decide what to drop - that way we lose less information. :) Annie (talk) 15:41, 6 March 2024 (EST)

Audible cleanup report

Could you please take a look at this Audible discussion when you are back? Thanks. Ahasuerus (talk) 07:11, 15 April 2024 (EDT)

Will do later today. Sorry for the delay. Annie (talk) 11:22, 24 April 2024 (EDT)

White Spawn

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?555647; Does the darker image on SFE better match your copy or should the Amazon image remain? --Username (talk) 11:38, 17 April 2024 (EDT)

Do you have a link to the SFE image? Meanwhile I will see if I can figure out where this book is stored at the moment :) Annie (talk) 11:22, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
It's on the SFE site at https://sf-encyclopedia.com; type White Spawn in the search bar. --Username (talk) 11:46, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
"Headword Search" returns: "Search for "white spawn" — no finds". Global Search throws you into the author page which does not have this specific cover. So can you please provide a link to the page you saw it? :) Annie (talk) 12:13, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
You search for images on that site in the Gallery section on the right. --Username (talk) 12:23, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
Are you referring to this SFE page? Keep in mind that some Web sites' search software can be IP-sensitive, which means that it may display different images (and other content items) depending on which IP address (assigned by your Internet provider) you are coming from. Amazon has been toying with this approach and it can get annoying when different people see different images, prices, etc.
SFE's software was originally written by a third party back when SFE was sponsored by a commercial entity and was supposed to drive Web traffic to certain pages. The software has been tweaked since they became independent, but there is no telling what algorithms are still lurking underneath the surface.
Given these uncertainties, it's always better to provide exact URLs. Ahasuerus (talk) 12:51, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
There was nothing wrong with the IP; as she said, she searched in the wrong area at the top, Headwords/Global, instead of the gallery section where you actually search for cover images on that site. Just letting her know so when I'm gone and she ever needs to find an image she'll know where to look. --Username (talk) 12:56, 24 April 2024 (EDT)
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