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I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~&#126;~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the [[ISFDB:Community Portal|community portal]], or ask me on my talk page.  Again, welcome! [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 
I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~&#126;~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the [[ISFDB:Community Portal|community portal]], or ask me on my talk page.  Again, welcome! [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
  
== ''This Case Is Gonna Kill Me'' variant ==
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== Lansdale's Savage Season ==
  
Hi Susan.  I have a make variant [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4747767 submission] on hold.  The note and date are different, but the author credit and the title text are the same for both.  I don't quite understand what you're trying to do, so I'm not sure what to suggest.  Tell me more, and I'll see if I can help.  Thanks.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 08:10, 6 September 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan -
  
: I was told NOT to merge these re-edited/re-released but to variant them. [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 16:27, 7 September 2020 (EDT)
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I believe you had mentioned in another thread that your books were in storage.  When you have access to them again, could you double check the ISBN for Lansdale's ''[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?28964 Savage Season]''.  I added the Worldcat number for this one, but it has a different ISBN, 0929480538 (or perhaps 092948052X, but I think that's for the slipcased edition).  The ISBN we have, 0-929480-22-8, matches the one listed in Locus1, which is likely the source for our record (It predates your verification).  While I suspect that one of the secondary sources is incorrect, I suppose it is possible that the book bears multiple ISBNs.  Once you can verify what's in the book, we can add a note explaining the discrepancy. Thanks for checking, though I know it may be a while. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:13, 22 January 2023 (EST)
  
::Susan, as I said in [[User_talk:JLaTondre#Spiritwalk|this conversation]], variant titles are for the same work under a different title and/or author credit. They are not for variations in the work itself. Either the work is close enough to be considered the same and they should be merged (with an optional title note regarding the re-editing) or they are considered different enough that they should be left separate works with title notes explaining the differences. Again, variant title means a variation in the title credit, not the work. The database has no way of capturing differences between two identical credited (title & author) works other than notes. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:54, 7 September 2020 (EDT)
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: I'll check when I can [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 16:12, 22 February 2023 (EST)
  
::: I'd like to add that the practice is that if identical titles are different enough (after extensive rewrite or re-edit) so that they are considered different works, they are not merged nor varianted, but this explained in title notes, wih a DO NOT MERGE all-caps statement added. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 20:04, 7 September 2020 (EDT)
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:: OK... on the front flyleaf it says: ISBN 0-929-480-22-8 Trade $25.00 /  ISBN 0-929-480-23-6 Limited Set $100.00
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:: On the copyright page it says Signed & Limited Edition ISBN 0-929480-53-8 / Trade Edition ISBN 9-929480-52-X / LCCN 90-070490 [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 22:49, 6 November 2023 (EST)
  
: k [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 22:22, 7 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Damnation ==
  
== Proposed ''Wikiworld'' merge ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347419; All other issues on ISFDB are published by Books, not Press. Can you check and fix if necessary? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:05, 23 April 2023 (EDT)
  
Hi.  I have your proposed Wikiworld merge [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4747786 submission] on hold.  I am rather doubtful that's correct.  It's hard to tell because I can't find it on Amazon, but the ebook collection record from the same publisher less than a year later shows a $9.99 price and claims to have had a stated page count of 325.  The chapbook record, however, has a price of $0.99, and the cover image shows the different "SHORT FICTION FROM CZP" banner at the bottom. See also [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Wikiworld/w4NlAwAAQBAJ Google Books], which claims the ISBN for the chapbook is only 25 pages.  It looks to me like there's probably a chapbook and a collection, both with the same title and basic cover image, and these should be kept separate (perhaps with an additional note). What do you think?  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 08:32, 6 September 2020 (EDT)
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: I can't get *to* my stuff, but I'll change it per your recommendation [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 01:23, 24 April 2023 (EDT)
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::OK, but I see from an online search that many sites refer to the publisher (apparently one of several over the magazine's history) as Damnation Press while many other sites refer to it as Damnation Books. So I wonder if their name changed somewhere along the way; it would still be good if you could check this issue and any other issues you may have PV when you get a chance to verify how they were named inside the issues since online info can't be trusted. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:40, 24 April 2023 (EDT)
  
: after more research, even though the same cover image was the same and the title was the same, one of those was a promotional release of just the title story and was only available for a short time, so I canceled the merge.  Thanks! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 16:29, 7 September 2020 (EDT)
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== After the End ==
  
==  Valor's Choice  ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?417779; I added 2 Archive.org links in a pending edit and I see intro is titled "Introduction: Before After the End", so if your copy says the same it should be fixed. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:49, 3 June 2023 (EDT)
  
Hello,
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== Veiled Web ==
  
I have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4752942 this one] on hold. Either it is from later than 2000 or it should have ISBN-10 :) Or is it the original 2000 one just updated to add the new ISBN? I will approve it and correct based on your answer. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:16, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?49331; An archived copy was uploaded in 2014, the same year you PV this edition, and while adding the link just now I noticed page count entered here is 357, not 355, and cover artist is entered as Nielsen, not Nielson like it says on the copyright page (same in the original PB), so if yours is really 355 pages and artist is Nielson can you fix those? I'm also going to ask PV of 2nd PB printing about this because they entered artist as Nielsen, too, so either they made the same mistake or the publisher corrected the name in later printings. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:08, 24 September 2023 (EDT)
  
: I actually need to change the date to 2019-01 or 0000-00 ... I got it as part of the Bundoran Budies StryBundle... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:10, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
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: 355 numbered, a blank page then "about the author" = 357
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: damn, it is spelled Nielson [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 23:02, 6 November 2023 (EST)
  
:: Approved ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?791967 here]), changed per your notes and added the original ebook as well ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?791969 here]). Feel free to edit yours a bit more if needed :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 00:33, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Mark Powers / Dresden Files comics ==
  
::: Thanks! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:07, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
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Hi, just noticed you have some of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?53165 the Dresden Files graphic novels] verified.  As such, I imagine you will be getting pings from me changing the (co-)author from "Mark Powers" to "Mark Powers (comics)".  Please see [[ISFDB:Community_Portal#Mark_Powers_-_two_different_people]] for the background on this - hopefully it shouldn't be a controversial change.  Thanks! [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:52, 19 November 2023 (EST)
  
== The Hidden City ==
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: Works for me... if they're different people we definitely need to differentiate them! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:09, 20 November 2023 (EST)
  
Can you check [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4755624 these two] again? They are variant-ed to VERY different covers so do not appear to be the same image. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:24, 13 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Book of Ballads ==
  
Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/tv_merge.cgi?4756436 this one]? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:50, 13 September 2020 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282239; Cover art and 7 of the contents have the wrong month, 10 instead of 11. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:19, 19 November 2023 (EST)
  
: One of those doesn't work and I cancelled the other one because they are quite different. Thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:12, 13 September 2020 (EDT)
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: All of these were previously published in individual comics format AND there was the BALLADS book published earlier with only part of the content... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:11, 20 November 2023 (EST)
  
:: Yep - the second one was a duplicate of the first - I rejected it later in the day when I realized it is the same. As you are the only one that sees these interior arts when you submit them, please check again any of these variants and merges post submission - we cannot merge based on a title only. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:27, 13 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Firebirds Rising ==
  
:also, tradingcarddb.com has many of the cards if you ever want to see them [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:29, 13 September 2020 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82103; I added Archive.org link in a PENDING edit and I think page count should just be 530 with brackets removed from contents at the end because the numbers are clearly visible at the tops of the pages. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:35, 21 November 2023 (EST)
  
== Narrator template ==
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: I checked and it does have page numbers thru 530! fixed it [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 19:32, 26 November 2023 (EST)
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::Susan, I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5820267 your edit]. In addition to changing the page numbers, you are converting from an ISBN10 to an ISBN13. We record the form that is on the pub. The Internet Archive scan shows the ISBN10 on the copyright page and the back cover. An ISBN13 would be unusual for a 2006 book. Does yours actually have a ISBN13? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:39, 27 November 2023 (EST)
  
Hi Susan. Just wanted to let you know that it is best to use the <nowiki>{{narrator|name}}</nowiki> template in the notes of audio-books. That way, when we eventually have support for narrator (and translator and...), coversion will be easy. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:12, 21 September 2020 (EDT)
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::: yes, on the bar code [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 20:41, 27 November 2023 (EST)
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::::I see it now. I focused on the labeled ISBN10. I approved the edit and added a note about the ISBN placement. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:29, 29 November 2023 (EST)
  
:THANKS [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 01:01, 22 September 2020 (EDT)
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:::::Cool, thanks - now for all the rest of my pending edits... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 13:34, 2 December 2023 (EST)
  
== Ride the Star Winds ==
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== Hyenas ==
  
Hello Susan. Re. [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:MLB#Ride_the_Star_Winds This conversation]. There are now two COVERART records for {{P|376546|Ride the Star Winds}}. In addition, there's no explanation that clarifies that the book credits Stephen Hickman, but that he confirms that the art is not by him, and that Allan Pollack's website sports this piece of art. I am assuming that the tp edition does exactly say that, yes?<br>
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?336933; Page count of copies on Archive.org is 100, not 104. Also, the 2 stories need their page numbers added. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:13, 25 November 2023 (EST)
Could you remove the erroneous title record for this particular publication record? And also, could you update the notes to clarify the source of the cover art credit? I will also point MLB to here. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 13:48, 22 September 2020 (EDT)
 
  
: OH, goodie now I can clean that up and make notes :) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 15:08, 22 September 2020 (EDT)
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: changes are pending [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:45, 30 November 2023 (EST)
  
== Sirens ==
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== Someplace To Be Flying ==
  
I approved your submission for importing content for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?30599 Sirens], but you need to redate two of the pieces of artwork to the date of this pub. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 15:49, 26 September 2020 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5824621; LCCN is for another book so I noted that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:04, 2 December 2023 (EST)
  
: If you could tell me WHICH 2? [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 03:43, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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: I just tested it and it goes to ''Someplace to Be Flying'' [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 13:36, 2 December 2023 (EST)
:: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2070092 this one] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1877480 this one] (they pinged on another one I approved a few minutes ago - no way to find them unless you look in an existing submission (approved or not)) but Willem already got them so we are all good. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:45, 28 September 2020 (EDT)
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::LCCN on copyright page is wrong so I made a note of that in the notes section and searched LoC site and got the right LCCN which was off by one number. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:44, 3 December 2023 (EST)
  
== Varianting 'Der Marsmagier' ==
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: OK, that makes more sense :-) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:38, 4 December 2023 (EST)
  
Hello Susan, I have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4774684 this submission] on hold as I believe the varianting should be the other way around. The [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?858096 COVERART] for {{p|256547|Hunting the Snark and Other Short Novels}} is for a later date, so that one should be varianted to {{t|2717485|Der Marsmagier}}. Or am I not seeing something obvious here? Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 08:04, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Out of Avalon ==
  
: it was originally a comic book cover... whatever order you think should be would be great [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 08:10, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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Can you please double check the title page of your {{P|25312|Out of Avalon}}? I have the first printing and while the cover has "An Anthology of Old Magic and New Myths", the title page of mine is "Tales of Old Magic and New Myths". Since we record per the title page, I will be correcting the first printing and wanted to know if yours should likewise be corrected or made a variant. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:53, 6 December 2023 (EST)
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:I've updated the first printing. Please let me know what your second printing title page states. Also, please double check the page count. In the first printing, the last 2 pages are unnumbered so I switched mine to xi+338+[2]. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:44, 10 December 2023 (EST)
  
:: In that case I would variant the English to the German title, and make a note that it was originally a comic book cover. I've done that for you. Have a look [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2717485 here]. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:33, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Whispers, August 1982 ==
  
: cool, thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 10:35, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan
  
== Galaxie (1ère série), #49 ==
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I'm going to clean up the title of our mutually verified publication of {{P|289020|Whispers, August 1982}}.  We currently have the title as "Whispers #17-18, August 1982".  However, the [[Template:TitleFields:Title|standards]] for magazine titles allow for either using the date or the issue number, but not both.  The date is also preferred.  I'll move the issue number into the notes.  Please let me know if you have any concerns.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:18, 8 December 2023 (EST)
  
I have rejected [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4774590 this submission], as the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?148719 English-titled cover art] should not be imported in a French publication. Rather, add a new cover art record to {{p|395471|Galaxie (1ère série), #49 December 1957}}, and then variant that French-titled cover art to the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?148719 English original] (same approach as for the UK edition). Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 08:04, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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: Works for me [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 11:00, 8 December 2023 (EST)
  
: Thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 08:09, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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== A Dance with Dragons Audiobook ==
  
:: Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4773198 this submission] (I've corrected it). Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 11:05, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan
  
::: Looks fixed, thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 14:31, 28 September 2020 (EDT)
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I've been catching up on entering my audiobooks.  I own a digital copy of George R. R. Martin's ''A Dance with Dragons'' which I purchased on July 12, 2011.  You have verified what appears to be the {{P|947992|same edition}} that was released the same day.  I see two changes I would like to make to the record.  First, the cover appears to be the same as the {{T|1306697|Larry Rostant cover}}, and I'd like to import that cover.  While the cover illustration of my copy is essentially the same, it does differ in some of the text and lacks the gold bar at the top.  My cover can be seen [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/bb/c3/bbc3842e2b336bc597762505a77444341587343_v5.jpg here].  Does the cover of your copy match mine, or does it match the one we currently have?  Could you check yours and let me know?  If yours doesn't match mine, do you recall if you obtained yours in 2011 or more recently?  I suspect that the cover we currently have may be from a later publication and not what was issued in 2011. Thanks for checking, and do let me know if you're OK with importing the Rostant cover.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:48, 1 January 2024 (EST)
  
== Amazon images ==
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: My sister and I have a shared library due to the Households and Family Library - she's the one who bought that particular book - some time in March of 2019... when I created the audible record here I linked to the amazon record, so it's likely the cover has changed [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 23:56, 1 January 2024 (EST)
  
While adding the images in our DB is not a problem, let's try not to put wrong and misleading information in the moderator notes, especially when there are new-ish editors as PVs.  
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::I should mention that I download all my audible purchases and manage them with iTunes.  Thus, I have a saved copy of the cover present when I purchased it.  If you keep your audiobooks in the cloud and use the Audible app, I believe that Audible will always show your their current cover in their app, as they do on their website. I'm guessing that you and your sister keep your copies in the cloud and thus it is uncertain which cover was present when the book was purchased in 2019. I think we should probably have two publication records, one with the original artwork with the 2011-07-12 date.  Another would have the current artwork and since we can't pinpoint the date the cover changed, with the unknown (0000-00-00) date. I would also add a note to that record stating that the cover changed sometime between 2011-07-12 and 2023-04-26 (the date you verified the record and linked to the current cover).  Assuming that we do this, and that you don't know which cover was present in your copy when purchased, would you prefer that your verified record be the one with the original cover and the 2011 date, or the current cover (with the gold bar) and the unknown date. Whichever you decide, I'll update the current record and add the second one, so you won't have to move your verification.  Please let me know your preference. Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:15, 2 January 2024 (EST)
* Amazon's ISBN-based links (links that end in /P/ISBN.jpg) are indeed unstable - Amazon links to the latest image for this ISBN.
 
* Amazon's Image-based links (links that end in /I/random_string.jpg) never change (or I am yet to see them change anyway). Amazon can change what image a book points to (and they do that a lot when there is a new edition) but the image itself, once created, does not change. This is why we want these images - but the older the book is, the more likely is that we have a /P/ image for it linked in the DB.
 
The last few you replaced are all from the /I/ domain (and matching perfectly). Which if you feel like doing and you are sure of the covers, you are welcome to. :) But just wanted to send a clarification on which images are getting changed :) Hope that makes sense. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:47, 28 September 2020 (EDT)
 
  
:the P images just started disappearing but the others keep CHANGING so the cover art credit is incorrect ... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 14:45, 29 September 2020 (EDT)
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::: for those books/stories *I* purchase or listen to I save the cover at that point for my nerd-base :-) but since Lisa got that one... because I save them to a massive off-line hard drive so I can listen to them away from the internet [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 18:17, 3 January 2024 (EST)
  
== Cover dates ==
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::::I had forgotten that you host a server with much cover art that is in our list of sites giving us permission to link.  Since you don't know what cover was present when the book was purchased, are you OK if I change the cover on the existing record?  I will also create a new record for the new cover.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:06, 3 January 2024 (EST)
  
Hello again,  
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::::: knock yourself out - I just like them to be in here :-) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 13:37, 4 January 2024 (EST)
  
When you are importing a cover, can you please pay attention to the warnings by the system about dates? I had been updating dates while approving your imports in the last days but it will be really nice if someone does not always need to finish the updates - the system throws a yellow warning so when you see that, can you just submit an edit for the date of the cover :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:20, 29 September 2020 (EDT)
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::::::All done.  Let me know if you see anything else that needs changing.  Thanks! --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:48, 4 January 2024 (EST)
  
: Where do I see the yellow warning? [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 14:42, 29 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Olivia de B. ==
:: After you press submit, it shows up on the screen for you down on the line next to "Auto Merge" - see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4778391 this one] for example. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:48, 29 September 2020 (EDT)
 
  
::: 4778524 TitleUpdate 2020-09-29 15:36:18 Ofearna Bad Moon Rising Cancel submission
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?814699; Shouldn't cover artist have the same last name as the other credits? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:42, 2 January 2024 (EST)
::: 4778523 ImportExport 2020-09-29 15:35:47 Ofearna Bad Moon Rising Cancel submission
 
::: SO is this the way to fix it? [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 15:37, 29 September 2020 (EDT)
 
:::: Yes :) Perfect! Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:39, 29 September 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Jokes Without Punchline ==
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: thanks for catching that... do you want to fix it or should I? [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 14:26, 3 January 2024 (EST)
  
Hello Susan. I've [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4773160 your submission] on hold as I'd like to ask where you got the updated date 1995-06-03 from for this publication?<br>
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::I think you should as PV. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:10, 3 January 2024 (EST)
  
: https://www.harlanellisonbooks.com/product/jokes-without-punchlines-white-wolf-3-june-1995/ [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 16:49, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
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::: it's pending now [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 13:37, 4 January 2024 (EST)
  
Also, an FYI, when changing a title date make sure to also update the pub date and the date of any contents records. This is easiest done by editing the pub record (and not the title record) in many cases because then you can change the date of the pub record, the title record and contents title records in one go, instead of having to submit two or more edits (especially important to remember when updating the date for COLLECTIONs and ATHOLOGYs). Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 16:20, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Journey to the Center of the Earth ==
  
: I usually wait for one to be approved before changing the other; thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 16:49, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan  
:: Thanks, Susan! Accepted and pub updated accordingly. And there's no need to do a date update by submitting multiple edits. Saves work for both of us :) (for title records with multiple pubs there's no choice, you'll have to update each record separately). Also, for these kinds of submissions, it's advisable to provide the source the information came from, preferably in the pub Notes field (and web links in the web page multifield), like I did here [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19054 here]. Makes it easy for a moderator to approve the edit. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 17:43, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
 
  
::: Thanks... I'm going to wrap up today and go home sick -- my eyes HURT after annual eye exam -- so much for mooning over my new Zenna Henderson story or anything else! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 17:45, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
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I've got another audiobook with a change in cover that we both own, Verne's {{P|950239|Journey to the Center of the Earth}} read by Tim Curry.  My copy has [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/03/7f/037f4170817c71959746f667a67444341587343_v5.jpg this cover] without the yellow Audible flag and with Curry's signature appearing above his name.  I purchased my copy on March 6, 2012. Could you check your records and see if your cover is the same as the Amazon cover linked or matches mine. If you don't have records for this one, I can handle it the same way as I did the Martin. I'll also note, that I was able to match the translation based on [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Jules_Verne_Translations this page] and have linked it to the others where the translation has been identified.  Thanks in advance for your help on these.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:56, 4 January 2024 (EST)
  
== The Neil Gaiman Reader: Selected Fiction ==
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: I actually PREFER it without the store branding! thanks!! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:37, 5 January 2024 (EST)
  
So are the excerpts [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?797848 here] called "Excerpt of XX" on their title pages? If not, we have a somewhat different policy for naming these... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:44, 14 October 2020 (EDT)
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== The Handmaids Tale Audiobook ==
  
: Got all the contents added and page #s for the physical copies... not sure if the short from Royal Mint for "Mythical Creatures" should be added or just like this here [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:57, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan
:: If it is a separate story, then it should be added I think. How short is short? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:37, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
: I'll scan it... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 03:57, 22 October 2020 (EDT)
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I expect I'll keep finding these.  Your copy of Atwood's {{P|947987|The Handmaids Tale}} is listed with Marcellino {{T|144058|artwork}}.  My copy was purchased on December 15, 2012 and does not have artwork on the cover, which can be seen [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/1d/ec/1dec4fbb1f84899596b36756b67444341587343_v5.jpg here].  My copy would also be part of the {{PS|A List Collection}} publication series.  Can you determine whether yours has the illustrated cover, or the text cover?  I'll happily clone the existing record to ensure your verification stays on the proper record. Let me know which cover you believe that you have, or if you can't determine, which record you would like to have your verification. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 14:04, 7 January 2024 (EST)
  
::: Sorry to butt in, but I have a question/observation; near the end of this collection, there's a slight difference in the ordering compared to the ToC listed for [https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/the-neil-gaiman-reader-2 the UK ebook]. I '''think''' it's a page number issue, as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?791843 there are two items listed as starting on page 571], which seems unlikely given one is a novelette and the other a short story?  The order per the contents page of that ebook is:
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: That's another one my sister got... I've only ever seen it with the artwork cover but you can do what you think is appropriate! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 14:52, 8 January 2024 (EST)
  
::: - ... all same until ...
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::Thanks. I left yours as the one with the artwork and adjusted the date. As before, let me know if you have an issues with the changes.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:10, 8 January 2024 (EST)
::: - The Sleeper and the Spindle
 
::: - A Calendar of Tales
 
::: - Nothing O'Clock
 
::: - A Lunar Labyrinth
 
::: - Down to a Sunless Sea - '''appears after "The Sleeper and the Spindle" in ISFDB'''
 
::: - How the Marquis Got His Coat Back
 
::: - ...The same from this point on...
 
::: The order of the stories shown in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4806108 this edit] has Down to a Sunless Sea after A Lunar Labyrinth, which further makes me think that the page number was wrong(Copypaste duplication maybe?  God knows I've done that sort of thing often enough...)  Unfortunately there are no page numbers shown in the Kobo preview, so I can't fix it, at least not to the exact value.
 
::: (I spotted this whilst cross checking that ebook's contents to see if it was safe to clone it from the physical - whilst I'm prepared to spend a few minutes doing this check, I'm afraid I was far too lazy to go to the effort you did in actually transcribing all the contents into the database in the first place ;-) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 06:49, 22 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Saga Press vs. Saga Press / Gallery ==
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::: Will do [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 11:41, 9 January 2024 (EST)
  
Hello Susan. You've PV'd {{p|746469|A Longer Fall}}. In light of [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Issue_with_Saga_Press_-_how_to_resolve.3F this discussion], would you be OK with checking the copyright page, and thus converting the publisher to just Saga Press? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 06:29, 14 October 2020 (EDT)
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== The Hobbit Audiobook ==
  
: Perfect - it was already here when I verified it so I didn't change it [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 12:12, 14 October 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan -
  
== Jainas Flucht and a request ==
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I've got another one, the record for Tolkien's {{P|947966|The Hobbit}} has the newer cover with the small RB logo in the lower right hand corner.  Whereas, the copy I purchased on October 1, 2013 has the older [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/e8/fb/e8fb721f288d2b1596b46627051444341587343_v5.jpg red bordered cover].  I'm under the impression that Recorded Books changed their trade dress fairly recently, within the last 1-2 years, but that's just my best guess.  Do you think your copy likely had the earlier cover, or is this one that you purchased in 2023 when you verified it?  Thanks for checking.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:31, 11 January 2024 (EST)
  
Hello Susan, I have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4804432 your submission] on hold as there's no source given for your change so can't approve this one as-is. Also, since the pub this COVERART belongs to is PVd, you have to check in with the PV (Welo) first to confirm whether or not the coverart is actually credited to Cliff Nielsen in this German pub (I think it is). If so, then it should not be updated to Steven D. Anderson, but rather to 'Cliff Nielsen (in error)', and then variant to the actual artist - provided you clearly indicate the source of the correction, preferably in the pub record itself.
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: another one my sister bought, feel free to do whatever you wish to it - I'm waiting for the rumored Stephen Fry or Martin Freeman versions... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:05, 12 January 2024 (EST)
  
Onto my request: you are doing great work, but can you add the source of the corrections you are making please? Either into the Note to Moderators field (eg. something like 'from other PVd record' would already do wonders ;)), or, in the actual pub Note field if the data is from secondary sources (eg. 'Artist from xyz'). The latter is especially important since otherwise we have no trace where the information is coming from (and adding (secondary) data source(s) is mandatory anyway). I know it's a little more work, but this would be improving the data traceability greatly, and would really help out the approving moderators. Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:32, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Collected Fantasies of Clark Ashton Smith ==
  
: 1)  Welo is gone, so I *can't*  check with the PV but I did check with the artists - Cliff Nielsen said it's not his and Stephen Anderson says it *is* ... so I guess we can leave it as it is since the PV is AWOL [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 15:47, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan -
  
:: Hi Susan, are you sure? I may be missing something here, but Welo's last activity is 2020-10-18 so that's fairly recent I'd say :).
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I've come to the first volume of the ''Collected Fantasies of Clark Ashton Smith'', {{P|948605|The End of the Story}}.  My copy was purchased 2014-05-05 and my cover lacks the "Only from Audible" banner.  Unfortunately, I can't find a high quality image of that cover.  The image downloaded into my iTunes from 2014 is [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/f5/8a/f58a22ae7ccdb2c596a71653651444341587343_v5.jpg here].  I'll also note, that the audio book does not appear to have the introduction, the note on the texts, nor any of the story notes, alternate versions and other back matter from the paper edition.  However, it does have an excerpt from the second volume in the series, ''The Door to Saturn''.  Further, this was published by the Audible Frontiers imprint.  I would guess that the further volumes in the series will require similar changes.  None of mine have the yellow banner.  However, I'm working through my library in the order I purchased them and have not gotten to the other volumes yet.  While I recall that you prefer the image without the branding, do you know whether the cover of your edition has the banner or not?  Can you pin down when your copies were purchased.  Let me know, and I'll make sure we have records for both covers, and for the other volumes when I get to them.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:21, 17 January 2024 (EST)
  
:: As to the info you've provided, after we've left a message on Welo's talk page (and hopefully he'll respond) we can change the entry as I outlined above, and add the statement that the artist was (likely) erroneously attributed to Nielsen in the pub, and that the artists confirmed this on date xyz. What do you think? [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 16:02, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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: I bought it as a "free to audible members" but haven't had a chance to listen since I got so sick and spent so much time in hospital over the last two years, but it was Sept 2021 (maybe Oct) and mine always had the yellow banner so I can't confirm the contents except what the audible description says. [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:46, 17 January 2024 (EST)
  
::: D'OH not AWOL, but I did notify him and he hasn't responded... should we just wait for him to respond? I tried to find a German scan on amazon.de and ebay.de plus a few other sites my brothers shop at but ... only cover no copyright page.  He's (bro Frank in Augsburg) going to check to see if he can find a copy and check it [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 16:06, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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:: I see. They series is all in Audible Plus. I've cloned the publication after making the changes. While I do recall that the essays were missing, I had a listen to the opening and closing and have verified they are not there. Happily, that's how I found the excerpt. As before, let me know if you have any concerns with my changes. I'll handle the other volumes similarly. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:51, 17 January 2024 (EST)
  
:::: Ooops, my bad. Didn't check Welo's talk page. Sorry... But yes, let's give him a couple more days I'd say. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 16:18, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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::: Works for me [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:44, 18 January 2024 (EST)
  
::::: We'll see what he has to say [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:54, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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== S&S II ==
  
:::::: Hi Susan. Welo answered. Turns out it is indeed a miscredit. I would suggest to enter the artist's name as 'Cliff Nielsen (in error)', and variant that to the actual artist's canonical name (Anderson) + leaving a note explaining where the info came from (ie confirmed by both artists on 'date'). This seems to be standard practice to credit as stated in the book, but make it clear that it is a miscredit. Would that work for you? I've also left [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Do_we_have_a_standard_for_miscredited_artists.2Fauthors.3F a message] on the Community Portal to get some feedback to officialize that practice. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 07:22, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5866223; I added link and pages to this 4th printing but it says printed in Canada on copyright page, you say in one of your edits that you have the book in hand so if you still have it can you verify that it says Canada? I don't see any indication on title page that publisher is Canadian (I think those say NAL of Canada or something) so maybe DAW started printing in Canada around that time but the books were still American publications? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:05, 21 January 2024 (EST)
  
: I'm not entirely certain what you're recommending I do here... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 12:07, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
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: I'll try to get into the garage after work today... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 09:44, 5 February 2024 (EST)
  
:: Changing the author of the German translation cover art into 'Cliff Nielsen (in error)' (I've just done that), and a note explaining what happened (I added some further clarification to what you already had done). Have a look [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?640751 here and let me know if this is OK for you. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:58, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Scalzi's The Dispatcher ==
  
::: Cool! Thanks !!!!
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Hi Susan -
  
== The Art of Barclay Shaw additions ==
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Another cover question.  You uploaded a new cover for John Scalzi's {{P|604598|The Dispatcher}} on August 13, 2019. It has the "Only from Audible" flag in black and white as well as "Audible Original" across the top.  My copy does not have any of the audible branding and can be seen [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/e0/75/e075d6b05b7569b596749683351444341587343_v5.jpg here].  Further, there is a newer cover from Audible that has the flag in yellow and I've cloned the publication {{P|992241|here}}.  I downloaded my copy on October 4, 2016. I'd like to either revert the cover of our mutually verified copy to the version without the Audible branding, or leave your upload in place and change the date to unknown with a note that it was reissued sometime between 2016-10-04 and 2019-08-13.  I'd then clone the record for the other edition and one of us would move our verification.  Let me know if you agree and how you'd like to proceed.  I think changing the date on the existing record is probably a bit easier.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:14, 30 January 2024 (EST)
  
Hi.  I accepted your additions to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518301 The Art of Barclay Shaw], but the disambiguators you used ("2back", etc.) seem inconsistent with some of the other content where "B" is used for what I'm guessing is probably the same thing?  I sort of prefer the "B", but I don't think it matters as long as they all follow the same pattern. If there's something different about one group vs. the other, then don't mind me. :-)  Thanks.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 20:16, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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:: as for The Dispatcher, I'd swear when I bought it the cover was a Vincent Chong cover... I'll for-sure check my other drive on that one [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:21, 5 February 2024 (EST)
  
: I added the rest so I can variant them... the ones I did not [#B] have on the back of the card either sketches, color studies or earlier versions of the eventual front image [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:55, 21 October 2020 (EDT)
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:Just ran across another one.  My copy of Bradley's ''The Mists of Avalon'' has [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/d4/47/d4474cc74f7a160596e2f667a41444341587343_v5.jpg this cover] and was purchased 2016-09-19.  Whereas, you've verified {{P|935316|this record}} on 2023-04-23 which is, I believe, a newer cover.  I'd like to change the date of your record to unknown with a note that it was issued between 2016-09-19 and 2023-02-13.  I'd also clone it with the earlier date and the earlier cover.  Do you have any objections to those change?  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 22:02, 30 January 2024 (EST)
  
==  I due Vorkosigan  ==
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:: Not a bit - that's another sister-bought book... I read MZB but not her Avalon books [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 12:33, 31 January 2024 (EST)
  
Source for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4806423 this one]? This is exactly what we have the Moderator note field for... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:32, 22 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Neverwhere Bonus Story ==
  
: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1248066 [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 13:32, 22 October 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan -
  
:: In which case we need to use the canonical name, not the alternative. Plus as the only source has the wrong attribution, the note in the pub is mandatory.  I will approve and fix (and post the link in the mod note next time? :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:37, 22 October 2020 (EDT)
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I discovered an odd thing while adding my audiobook of Gaiman's ''Neverwhere''.  My {{P|992943|copy}} was purchased in 2016 and has a 2007 production date within the book.  However, my Audible library shows a 2017 edition with an increased length (13 hours, 48 minutes vs 12 hours, 33 minutes).  This appears to match your {{P|696608|verified copy}}, but also shows a new cover.  I downloaded the new copy and added it {{P|992944|here}}. To account for the change in length, I noticed that there's a note on the cover of your copy that mentions that it includes the story {{T|1711544|How the Marquis Got His Coat Back}}.  I used audible's cloud player and found that the story begins at about 41 minutes into chapter 20, in case you want to verify.  I've added it to my record with the newer cover.  I'm only mentioning it as you may want to import the story into your copy.  I don't really expect Audible to replace my purchases with newer editions, but as they gave me an extra story, I suppose I can't really complain.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 14:27, 3 February 2024 (EST)
  
::: if it had been PVd or a source I would have put in the notes, ok [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 13:39, 22 October 2020 (EDT)
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: I'll check, but I think audible automatically updates, so it'd be cool if I have Marquis [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:23, 5 February 2024 (EST)
:::: The source was in the notes (Fantascienza -- all the data for the record came from there, including the artist - I added the NILF link last night but the source itself was already in the notes). Most of our Italian non-PVd older records are from there. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:42, 22 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Adding notes ==
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== Slaughterhouse-Five ==
  
If you are importing and you have to add notes, just make a second edit a PubEdit) to add the notes you want to add. Saying in the moderator note that you cannot add notes is not very helpful... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:44, 29 October 2020 (EDT)
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Hi Susan -
  
: I was told a long time ago that if you're editing with an import or something, that any subsequent pending edits get deleted by the system, but if I can do that, it'd be great! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 12:01, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
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Found another one.  You've verified {{P|947980|this copy}} of Vonnegut's ''Slaughterhouse-Five''.  The copy that I purchased on February 28, 2017 has the same cover, but without the "Only from Audible" flag in the bottom right corner.  I'll clone this to make two copies, one for each cover.  Do you think your verification should stay on the one with the flag or the one without?  I'll also point out that we have the title as "Slaughterhouse-Five or The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance with Death" and the author as "Kurt Vonnegut, Jr."  However, the audiobook has the shorter title of simply "Slaughterhouse-Five" and the author as simply "Kurt Vonnegut" with out the Jr.  I'll change both those at the same time unless you have an objection.  Let me know which cover you think belongs with your copy.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:23, 5 February 2024 (EST)
  
:: That depends on what is edited exactly - editing the notes and importing should not be clashing (emphasis on should). Try it next time - if they do, we will figure something else. I will run a quick test as well later on and let you know. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:16, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
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: I've READ Slaughterhouse Five but I hated it - that was another book my sister bought (I doubt she listened to it, but she got it!) - so another instance where you can do whatever you want with it :-) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 09:59, 6 February 2024 (EST)
  
::: Cool! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 15:33, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Derelict ==
  
== "Inwijding" cover art ==
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Hi,
  
Hi Susan, you submitted an update of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?688500 this pub] that I've PV'd. As there is no credit on or in the book, and since it's a translation, please make sure to clearly state where the credit is coming from. I checked, and am assuming you got it from the statement in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?396253 this pub record]? If so, please update the notes accordingly, and also make it clear that the art credit is only for the symbol, not the full page.
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Just a quick note that I added the pub series to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?845870 your verified]. I am working through their books to get all ZNB Book Collectors numbers in place. Hope you are doing well. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 10:42, 7 February 2024 (EST)
  
Note that the back cover of [https://www.amazon.com/Divergent-Veronica-Roth/dp/0062387243/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= this Amazon] record reads "Cover design and landscape art by Joel Tippie". You may want to add that too and give credit to both artists. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:14, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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: I just have the ones I got off Kickstarter - I'm still not recovering from the surgery well and the surgeon keeps saying I may need **another** surgery to correct what he screwed up the FIRST time -- and it's really pissing me off that I can't walk the dog and just bending over can make me bleed or vomit and wind up back in the hospital -- all because he messed up that first surgery! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 14:58, 7 February 2024 (EST)
  
: Once it's approved, I believe I may have set it up correctly; may want to add Joel Tippie... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 11:24, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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:: That sucks :( Hopefully things improve quickly! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:46, 7 February 2024 (EST)
  
== Valley of the Soul -- cover update ==
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::: it's been 2 years of medical hell and I'm so over it! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 18:14, 7 February 2024 (EST)
  
I uploaded a new copy of the cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?89117]. If your PV copy actually looks like the one I replaced, we can revert at [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Image:VLLFTHSLBT2006.jpg]. Thanks. --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 17:27, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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== Coraline ==
  
: They're identical [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 17:32, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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Hi Susan  
  
:: Your copy of the book and the original scan image? Or your book and the new scan image? (I assume you forced a refresh). --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 19:39, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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Hope you're feeling better.
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I've got another one.  My copy of Gaiman's Coraline has [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/56/d0/56d0e6762453506596c65613667444341587343_v5.jpg this cover] which has a red bar at the bottom stating "Unabridged".  I purchased and downloaded my copy on 2017-09-29.  I see that your verified {{P|696611|copy}} has a cover without the red bar. I also see that you uploaded the cover of your copy on 2019-08-06 and you verified the copy on 2018-12-16.  I'd like to change the date of your record to unknown with a note that it was issued sometime between 2017-09-29 and 2018-12-16.  I would also clone yours for a record for my copy with the earlier date.  Please let me know if that sounds OK.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:55, 9 February 2024 (EST)
  
::: The two images you referenced above [1] and [2] [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:08, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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: of course... 07-24-2018 was my purchase date if that helps in any way [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 10:14, 12 February 2024 (EST)
  
:::: I think we're ok then, but to double check, when clicking on the 2nd link, you should come to a page with both your scan and mine.
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== All Systems Red ==
(Mine is in the table as current, yours, as revert). Clicking on the timestamps in the table gives the two versions. I hope you mean that the current image matches your book, (like it does mine),  and the one under revert can be eventually deleted. (Just trying to make sure I'm not misunderstanding). Thanks. --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 21:24, 5 November 2020 (EST)
 
  
::::: The colors in the image you've provided match my copy much better [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:27, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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Hi Susan -
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I've come across another one where there was a cover change.  You've verified Martha Wells' {{P|948006|All Systems Red}} on 2023-04-26.  I purchased my copy on 2018-02-21 and it has the older Recorded Books trade dress with the red bars as seen [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/b6/d8/b6d8dcdb674a7775967334c7077444341587343_v5.jpg here].  My sense is that the change from the red bars to the small RB in a lower corner occurred sometime in 2023.  Do you think the current Amazon cover is accurate to your edition?  I'll clone to make another record with the other trade dress based on your answer.  Sorry to have to keep asking you about these, though it is interesting to see where our libraries intersect.  Hope you're doing OK.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:06, 14 February 2024 (EST)
  
:::::: Great! Sorry to be obtuse. --[[User:GlennMcG|GlennMcG]] 21:32, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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: 3-29-2021  was my purchase date - feel free to do whatever you wish, thanks! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 11:29, 15 February 2024 (EST)
  
: Thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 21:33, 5 November 2020 (EST)
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== The Lions of al-Rassan ==
  
== Return: An Innkeeper's World Story ==
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Hi Susan -
  
I have had to reject [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4830934 this edit]. This would have changed the story title that appeared in a verified publication. If you believe that publication did not use the subtitle, than you need to ask the primary verifier to double check. Otherwise, they need to be varianted and not merged. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:12, 13 November 2020 (EST)
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Found another one.  Your verified copy of {{P|695388|The Lions of al-Rassan}} has the cover with the "Only from Audible" flag.  You added the record and verified it on 2018-12-02.  My copy has [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/5f/5a/5f5a7662651228f596f74383677444341587343_v5.jpg this cover] without the flag and was purchased on 2018-06-10. We seem to be getting very close to the day when Audible started using that flag. If you purchased your copy on December 12, 2018, then I would suggest adjusting the date on yours to "2018-00-00" as the flag was added sometime between June and December.  If you bought yours much earlier, I could change the cover on your record to the version without the flag and add my verification.  I'd also like to change the publisher to the "Audible Frontiers" imprint which is how it is stated within the audio book. Please let me know how you'd like me to proceed. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:51, 29 February 2024 (EST)
  
: Can you, then, change the contents so the short story appears in both the chapbook and Subterranean Online? [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 23:22, 14 November 2020 (EST)
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: you can do whatever you like with these - I like to see all the different covers :-) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 16:38, 1 March 2024 (EST)
:: This is exactly what the variant will do. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:01, 15 November 2020 (EST)
 
  
== Dragons and Dreams: A Collection of New Fantasy and Science Fiction Stories  ==
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== Martin's Fire & Blood ==
  
A price of 11.89 is extremely weird - is it printed on the book somewhere (and if so - is that in $). If not printed, where is it coming from? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:04, 21 December 2020 (EST)
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Hi Susan -
  
: It's right on the inner front flap... I thought it was odd, too but it is a library edition... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 18:22, 21 December 2020 (EST)
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I've found another one.  Your copy of George R. R. Martin's {{P|947991|Fire & Blood}} that you verified on 2023-04-26 has a HBO tie-in cover which is consistent with that date.  My copy was purchased 2018-11-20 and has [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/dc/a9/dca944e15cc298f597479513677444341587343_v5.jpg this cover]. Given the difference in the dates, I'm going to go ahead and adjust the publication date of your record with a note narrowing down the cover change as best we can. Please let me know if you have any concerns with my changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:14, 2 March 2024 (EST)
  
:: Ah. Missed that. Totally normal for a library edition. I will add the dollar sign after approval. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:56, 21 December 2020 (EST)
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: another one of my sister's purchases... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 15:16, 11 March 2024 (EDT)
  
:::Thanks! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 19:01, 21 December 2020 (EST)
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== The Fireman ==
  
:::: More on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?11235 Dragons & Dreams: A Collection of New Fantasy and Science Fiction Stories]: you have the publication record entered as 'Dragons and Dreams', instead of the reference name, so it features [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/cleanup_report.cgi?93 here]. If that is indeed the title on the title page the reference title should be changed.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 05:58, 22 December 2020 (EST)
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Hi Susan -
  
::::: Sorted out. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:20, 22 December 2020 (EST)
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I have a question about Joe Hill's {{P|816061|The Fireman}}.  I see that we are listing a story, "What If There Was Just a Little Bit More Story?" as included with the novel.  I haven't actually listened to the novel yet, but looking at the track listing in the Audible app, the last track before the End Credits is titled "Delivery".  I also jumped around at the end of that track and didn't detect a separate story.  Are you sure that the story is included in the audio edition?  I'll leave the story in place until I hear from you.  However, I am going to replace the Amazon image with one that we host.  I'm also going to use the Narrator template in the notes.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:42, 3 March 2024 (EST)
  
:::::: Cool, I got this one from the library, but I doubt the title page would have AND instead of & any different from this edition... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 12:28, 22 December 2020 (EST)
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: now this one I DID buy, I'll check it out! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 15:17, 11 March 2024 (EDT)
  
== Astounding Science Fiction, November 1958 (UK) ==
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== Hirsch's Sovereign ==
  
I had to reject [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4863842 this submission]. As per the pub notes, "Uncredited cover based on one by H. R. van Dongen." Many European reprints of early American magazines used new versions of the American cover art. They would have a different artist re-paint the cover. This is not van Dongen's work. Please be careful when adding cover credits to such magazines. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:06, 23 December 2020 (EST)
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Hi Susan -
  
: OK [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 11:13, 23 December 2020 (EST)
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Hope you're doing well.
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For Jeff Hirsch's ''Sovereign'', {{P|762835|your copy}} which you verified on 2020-02-26 has the yellow "Only from Audible" flag.  The flag on the cover of my copy which I downloaded 2019-02-20 is white ([https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/52/4f/524f8886ed60d9859746a437277444341587343_v5.jpg seen here]).  I had a peek at archive.org for this one and it looks like the change in cover happened sometime between 2019-04-05 and 2020-04-05.  I'm going to go ahead and clone your record and adjust the dates.  I'll also add the Audible Original publication series.  Let me know if you have any concerns about these changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:26, 9 March 2024 (EST)
  
== A cratera da morte ==
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Similar differences between the covers of {{P|762834|your copy}} of Les Bohem's ''Junk'' and [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/c4/e3/c4e356017e55472597368627341444341587343_v5.jpg my copy], and I'll be proceeding with similar edits.  Again, let me know if you have concerns.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 12:06, 9 March 2024 (EST)
  
What is the source for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4877670 this edit]? Dias is what is credited as bibliowiki.com.pt. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:39, 11 January 2021 (EST)
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: sounds like a plan to me [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 15:18, 11 March 2024 (EDT)
  
: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?408271 SORRY/THANKS [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 18:06, 11 January 2021 (EST)
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== Christmas Horror Volume 1 ==
  
== Curran Points of View ==
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Wil you check the title of your [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?566798 verified publication]. All the others show 'Christmas Horror: Vol. 1' on the title page. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 07:49, 16 March 2024 (EDT)
  
Hi Susan. Concerning [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4895570 this] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4895572 this] submission: are you sure that the title is really written as "Curran's Point of View"? LookInside of the Kindle edition shows "Curran Points of View". Might be prudent to ask Bob to confirm, as he has PV'd the pb edition. Generally speaking, if you're correcting a PV'd publication, you should contact the PV if you don't happen to have a copy yourself to confirm that the proposed update is valid and that there's not something else going on. Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 08:49, 27 January 2021 (EST)
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: the title page is actually an image and has vol, like the cover but the copyright page reads: CHRISTMAS HORROR VOLUME. 1
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Copyright © 2015 Dark Regions Press
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[[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 03:19, 17 March 2024 (EDT)
  
: it's several short stories that were included first on the Ilona Andrews website, then in later editions of paperbacks
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== His Majesty's Dragon ==
:
 
: Curran's Point of View
 
: • Unicorn Lane (Magic Bites)
 
: • Fernando's (Magic Bites)
 
: • Soup (Magic Burns)
 
: • Midnight Games (Magic Strikes)
 
: • Hot Tub (Magic Strikes)
 
: • Kate's Origin (Between Magic Strikes and Magic Bleeds)
 
: • Naked Dinner (Between Magic Strikes and Magic Bleeds)
 
: • Conclave (Magic Bleeds)
 
: • Awake (end of Magic Bleeds)
 
: • Prequel (Magic Breaks)
 
: Jim's Point of View (Magic Breaks) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 17:05, 27 January 2021 (EST)
 
  
:: I may not have been entirely clear, I meant to ask how the titles are printed in the publication in question (if you would have it in hand, let me know). Since we are recording as printed on or in the actual book, we can't rely on secondary sources for that (after all, it can differ from publication to publication) - in this case, do ask Bob to confirm how it's written in the book he PV'd. Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 07:22, 28 January 2021 (EST)
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Hi Susan -
  
::: [https://ofearna.us/web/CURRAN.JPG]. Here's the screencap of beginning... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 22:38, 28 January 2021 (EST)
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I'm going to adjust the dates of Novik's {{P|971621|His Majesty's Dragon}}.  My copy has [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/e6/2c/e62c6e52cdace99596e6d4e6e51444341587343_v5.jpg this cover] and was purchased on March 31, 2016. Given your verification date of 9/20/2023, I assume that you have the current cover.  I'd also recommend deleting the excerpt of ''Throne of Jade''.  I've got a copy of the paperback as well, which does include the excerpt, and I listened to the end of the audio version and the excerpt is not present there. However, I won't delete it from your copy without your agreement. Do let me know if you have any concerns with the date changes. Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 12:11, 16 March 2024 (EDT)
  
:::: And accepted. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 08:51, 29 January 2021 (EST)
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The same situation exists for {{P|971622|Throne of Jade}} and {{P|971623|Black Powder War}}.  My copies purchased in 2016 have these covers: [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/e2/3b/e23b12363bc8c56596a55447477444341587343_v5.jpg 1] and [https://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/c3/05/c30536cfa299cbb596d53447377444341587343_v5.jpg 2].  Neither audio book includes the excerpt from the next book in the series and I've verified this with the paperback copies.  It's also interesting that the audio book itself gives the publisher as "Books on Tape" for all three of these.  This isn't surprising as BoT is an imprint of Random House.  In any case I'll be changing the dates for these as well but will hold off on deleting the excerpts until I hear from you.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:06, 16 March 2024 (EDT)
  
::::: thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 12:06, 29 January 2021 (EST)
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: My sister bought the Temeraire books, so I'm not sure what they were when she did or even when she did, but I do have plans to listen to them here as when I listened to them it was off the overdrive/library, so I'm ready to re-listen... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 03:15, 17 March 2024 (EDT)
  
== Hellbound Hearts ==
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== Stephen Fry's Sherlock Holmes ==
  
Hell-o. So Simon Clark's collection The Gravedigger's Tale: Fables of Fear was the only collection of his that had no contents since the book info was entered on ISFDB nearly 10 years ago. I tweeted Mr. Clark and he sent me a picture of the contents which I've started entering, beginning with importing titles already on ISFDB, and there was an error in 1 of the titles. "Our Lord of Quarters" is spelled as "Out Lord of Quarters" on ISFDB. Before I change it can you verify your copy says "OUR"? --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:25, 28 January 2021 (EST)
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Hi Susan -
 +
I've got some changes I'd like to make to {{P|950495|Sherlock Holmes}} narrated by Stephen Fry, which you've verified and which I will once I'm done with the changes.  First, I think we should make this an OMNIBUS instead of a COLLECTION, especially since it contains several novels.  I actually was adding a publication with the original cover {{P|1000866|here}} when the software flagged your copy as a potential duplicate.  I hadn't caught it earlier since I was looking for omnibuses. I'd also like to import the missing content and remove the note stating that it's missing.  I'll also swap the Amazon image for one of ours, and use the Narrator template. Finally, I would change the date of our copy to unknown.  The latest copy on archive.org with the old cover without the yellow Audible flag is from 2017-09-17.  My copy was purchased on 2019-10-27 and has the flag, so I would add a note that the new cover occurred sometime between those dates. Please let me know if you are OK with these changes.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:15, 22 March 2024 (EDT)
  
: I'm not sure why you're asking me... I don't have this book [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 15:59, 28 January 2021 (EST)
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: cool, was considering doing that - it was already IN here when I verified it but changing type is such a pain... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 16:52, 23 March 2024 (EDT)
  
:: Because this record, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?350557], says you verified the print version of HELLBOUND HEARTS back in 2012, and since I spoke to Mr. Clark and saw the title of his story from this anthology was spelled correctly in his collection but incorrectly on ISFDB I thought I'd ask you to check your copy of Hellbound Hearts (if you still have it) to confirm that it's spelled "Our Lord of Quarters" and not "Out Lord of Quarters" as you entered it so I can correct it and continue entering the other stories in Mr. Clark's collection. --[[User:Username|Username]] 17:27, 28 January 2021 (EST)
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== Salvatore ==
  
::: Now *that* I can do!  And it'll give me a good excuse to stop shoveling the 3' of frozen-ass snow at my office!, sec... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]]
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3124916; Should this be as R. A. so it will be in the record with all the author's other works? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:43, 13 April 2024 (EDT)
::: Yup, the ToC says "Our", not "out" [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 17:49, 28 January 2021 (EST)
 
  
== Ryan ==
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: Definitely [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] ([[User talk:Ofearna|talk]]) 15:36, 21 April 2024 (EDT)
  
Shivers VIII [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2565232]; Alan Ryan story should be by Alan Peter Ryan, right? He stopped using short name in 1980's and started using full name from his return to writing fiction around 2010 until his death. --[[User:Username|Username]] 16:12, 15 February 2021 (EST)
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== Brin's Glory Season ==
  
: Yes, it does say "Alan Peter Ryan" -- I'll try to fix that [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 17:52, 15 February 2021 (EST)
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Hi Susan -
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It's been a while since our libraries crossed.  I'm going to update our mutually verified copy of David Brin's {{P|931016|Glory Season}}.  The original publication didn't have the Only from Audible banner which was added between 2017-09-25 and 2019-10-07.  I'm going to change the date to unknown and add a note about the range of dates when it was added.  I'm also going to change the publisher to "Audible Frontiers" as that is how it appears within the book.  As always, let me know if you have any problems with these changes.  Hope you're doing well.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:19, 25 April 2024 (EDT)
  
The title shows up twice in your PV'd edition of Shivers VIII now. --[[User:Username|Username]] 09:16, 17 February 2021 (EST)
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== Death: The Time of Your Life ==
  
: Yes, remediation takes 2 steps; until my ADD was done I couldn't REMOVE [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 11:20, 17 February 2021 (EST)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?593188; I think Clarie Danes should be Claire, famous actress. There's a fourth printing on Archive.org that says printed in Canada. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:08, 26 April 2024 (EDT)
  
== The Last Colony by John Scalzi ==
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== Lisdoonvarna ==
  
Hi Susan. Last August you [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Willem_H.#The_Last_Colony_by_John_Scalzi asked me] to check [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?292798 this pub]. I finally found it, nearly untouched by the fire and smoke. It actually has four Vincent Chong illustrations, only two are shown on [https://vincentchongart.myportfolio.com/book-illustration-gallery-v Chong's site], respectively #2 and #1 (Fuglies and The Obin). I added the other two, the titles and page numbers. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:33, 21 April 2021 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5953607; Fixed/added info. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:51, 1 May 2024 (EDT)
 
 
: lovely, thanks!! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 22:42, 22 April 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Rat Tales ==
 
 
 
Would you mind double checking the credit for the story on page 39 of {{P|27370|Rat Tales}}? We are currently showing the second author as by his full name (including middle name) with a variant to his 'normal' name. The author is claiming he never used his full name in publication. If you could double check if this is a database error or the author is mistaken, it would be appreciated. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:27, 20 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: I'm moving a ton of books around... when Rat Tales pops back up, I'll check it ! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 14:42, 20 June 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== "Die Foundation-Trilogie" and its Jim Burns cover art ==
 
 
 
Hi Susan! As I [[User_talk:Rtrace/Archive13#Now_it.27s_WRONG...|wrote on Ron's page as a response to your post]] there last year, Jim Burns is not the cover artist of {{P|367180|Die Foundation-Trilogie}}. The cover artist is Thomas Thiemeyer only, which I can verify with {{P|486828|my copy of the previous printing of the pub}}. Therefore the title record for Jim Burns had been removed from it last year. Now I see that you've added Jim Burns back again in March this year. What is your data source for doing so? Thanks, Jens [[User:Hitspacebar|Hitspacebar]] 09:06, 6 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: I just put in a removal order with a note, but that Thiemeyer guy's art is quite similar to Jim's work... look at his cover to A Stainless Steel Rat is Born and you'll see what I mean.  BUT if you have the work at it says Thiemeyer, I won't re-add it [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 22:54, 6 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:: OK, I did all the necessary changes and moved your note addition to the title record. As for the similarity to Jim Burns' art, and in general regarding an assumed similarity: if ''other'' publication records already use the ''same'' cover image and, moreover, have been ''primary-verified'' ({{P|301451|this one}} and {{P|486828|this one}}, which can easily be found by looking at {{T|1052847|the title record of the cover art}}) it's quite certain that the cover artist is already correct. Making cover artist changes shouldn't be done then just based on assumptions or subjective similarities, but by double-checking data sources or asking the primary-verifiers. Jens [[User:Hitspacebar|Hitspacebar]] 03:37, 7 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
::: I actually thought this was the same image as the Jim Burns cover to The Stainless Steel Rat is Born, but when you asked and I checked there are differences.  I actually got down my Jim Burns art books, I thought this was that same image! Thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 09:40, 7 July 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Tor/Forge ==
 
 
 
Hi Susan, where did that TOR/Forge came from in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5075412 your submission]? I can't find it in the kindle edition anywhere (Amazon LookInside) - also, even if Forge would have to be considered an imprint of TOR, we record Imprint / Publisher - so it should have been 'Forge / Tor' in that case (even though that's not quite right either since TOR is an imprint itself). See [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Publisher here] for detailed rules. Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 10:59, 8 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: you know, I have no idea!  Thanks for changing it to just Tor [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 22:24, 8 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Time After Time ==
 
 
 
I corrected the month of the above title by Karl Alexander which you PV'd; Fantlab has a copy and it clearly says 0379 on back flap in 1 photo. --[[User:Username|Username]] 13:02, 14 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: ok [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 22:22, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Artemis Fowl ==
 
 
 
Hello,
 
 
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?855644 This record] is really mixed up. It cannot be from 2002 and have a cover from a movie that came out in 2020 and ISBN13. So either this is a 2020/2021 version of the audiobook or the cover and ISBN need fixing :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:53, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: I have the corrected info in there... don't have a release date for the "movie tie in version", but I've had the audible for a few years now and there's at least one other version with a different narrator [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:12, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:: Perfect, thanks :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 00:19, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
::: :-) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:22, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:::: Also - as with most imprints, we record them in the publisher field. listening library is an old friend so I reunited your book with the rest of the books published under the imprint. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 00:23, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: Perfect [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:24, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Notes, notes, notes ==
 
 
 
Just a reminder: Always add a note on where a cover credit comes from. I just did it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?609159 here]. Thanks :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:59, 8 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 02:01, 9 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== "Designers are not artists" ==
 
 
 
Hi Susan, do avoid recording designers as cover artists. Please revert your change you made [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5120068 here]. Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 12:26, 15 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: ok [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:03, 31 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
== The Night They Missed the Horror Show ==
 
 
 
Are you sure [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?864343 this] is 2009? Amazon and Audible insist on it being 2008 :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:03, 20 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
: oops... shouldn't edit with a migraine! [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 22:04, 20 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:: Hope you are feeling better! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:23, 20 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
::: getting there, I hope [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:21, 22 October 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Malefic ==
 
 
 
Hi Susan. Can you check the essay on page 7 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304075 Malefic]? Is it really credited to "Miguelanx Prado" or is it "Miguelanxo Prado". In any case, it should be varianted to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1767332 Paisajes con Figura]. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:14, 22 November 2021 (EST)
 
 
 
== Gwendy's Button Box - subseries of Castle Rock? ==
 
 
 
Hi, you're a PV on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2167503 this] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2617801 this], I have a question - there's [https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/stephen-king-3/gwendys-final-task/9781399702348/ an upcoming book] which in the UK at least is promoted as the third in a trilogy (see also [https://www.goodreads.com/series/271678 Goodreads]).  Do you have any objection to making those existing titles the first and second parts of a new "Gwendy's Button Box" series, and making that a subseries of the current "Castle Rock" series?
 
 
 
I haven't read any King for about ~30 years, and have only the vaguest awareness of how his works inter-relate, so I'm wary of wading into things I don't fully understand.  I'll contact other PVs for their opinion.  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 18:48, 24 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
: sounds like a good idea... the 3 Gwendy's stories are set in Castle Rock, and they are their own "trilogy" (novella/novel/etc) so I would see that as a logical change/addition [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 19:48, 30 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
:: Thanks; I've submitted edits to the 3 titles, and will make the new series a subseries of Castle Rock once they're accepted. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 17:02, 31 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
::: cool [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 07:10, 1 February 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
== Mermaids Monthly, August 2021 ==
 
 
 
Re: your verified pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?862562 Mermaids Monthly, August 2021], only one content title has been entered. Do you plan on adding anything else? If not, do you mind if I finish it? All the other issues are complete. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:31, 28 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
: I can, sure.  Trying to not do much permanent till I'm off pain meds a bit (surgery sucks!) but will pull that up and try to make the changes (mermaids: I'd assume they ALL belong here, huh?) [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 19:50, 30 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
:: Yes, it's all genre. Sorry you had some medical issues. Take your time, if you change your mind let me know. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 20:17, 30 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
::: thanks [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:04, 31 January 2022 (EST)
 
 
 
== Affiliate links ==
 
 
 
I've noticed a couple Amazon affiliate links in notes on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1975808 this one] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1898049 this one] (though there may be more). As far as I understand, we shouldn't be putting in affiliate links in notes. Please do not do that in the future. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:34, 9 February 2022 (EST)
 
:[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1898844 This one], too. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:41, 9 February 2022 (EST)
 
:Also [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073641 this one], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2119042 this one], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073538 this one], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1898028 this one], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1898587 this one], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073630 this one]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 15:15, 9 February 2022 (EST)
 
:A few more (most are INTERIORART titles from one art book): [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1898055 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2071950 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1898032 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073527 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1549457 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073535 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073536 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073537 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073539 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073540 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1901413 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2071952 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073547 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073626 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073628 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073632 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073633 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073636 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073637 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073639 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073643 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073644 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073645 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073646 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2073647 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074099 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074100 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074101 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074104 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074105 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2071969 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2071967 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2071968 here], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074110 here], and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2074131 here]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 16:07, 9 February 2022 (EST)
 

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Lansdale's Savage Season

Hi Susan -

I believe you had mentioned in another thread that your books were in storage. When you have access to them again, could you double check the ISBN for Lansdale's Savage Season. I added the Worldcat number for this one, but it has a different ISBN, 0929480538 (or perhaps 092948052X, but I think that's for the slipcased edition). The ISBN we have, 0-929480-22-8, matches the one listed in Locus1, which is likely the source for our record (It predates your verification). While I suspect that one of the secondary sources is incorrect, I suppose it is possible that the book bears multiple ISBNs. Once you can verify what's in the book, we can add a note explaining the discrepancy. Thanks for checking, though I know it may be a while. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:13, 22 January 2023 (EST)

I'll check when I can Susan O'Fearna (talk) 16:12, 22 February 2023 (EST)
OK... on the front flyleaf it says: ISBN 0-929-480-22-8 Trade $25.00 / ISBN 0-929-480-23-6 Limited Set $100.00
On the copyright page it says Signed & Limited Edition ISBN 0-929480-53-8 / Trade Edition ISBN 9-929480-52-X / LCCN 90-070490 Susan O'Fearna (talk) 22:49, 6 November 2023 (EST)

Damnation

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347419; All other issues on ISFDB are published by Books, not Press. Can you check and fix if necessary? --Username (talk) 11:05, 23 April 2023 (EDT)

I can't get *to* my stuff, but I'll change it per your recommendation Susan O'Fearna (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2023 (EDT)
OK, but I see from an online search that many sites refer to the publisher (apparently one of several over the magazine's history) as Damnation Press while many other sites refer to it as Damnation Books. So I wonder if their name changed somewhere along the way; it would still be good if you could check this issue and any other issues you may have PV when you get a chance to verify how they were named inside the issues since online info can't be trusted. --Username (talk) 09:40, 24 April 2023 (EDT)

After the End

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?417779; I added 2 Archive.org links in a pending edit and I see intro is titled "Introduction: Before After the End", so if your copy says the same it should be fixed. --Username (talk) 11:49, 3 June 2023 (EDT)

Veiled Web

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?49331; An archived copy was uploaded in 2014, the same year you PV this edition, and while adding the link just now I noticed page count entered here is 357, not 355, and cover artist is entered as Nielsen, not Nielson like it says on the copyright page (same in the original PB), so if yours is really 355 pages and artist is Nielson can you fix those? I'm also going to ask PV of 2nd PB printing about this because they entered artist as Nielsen, too, so either they made the same mistake or the publisher corrected the name in later printings. --Username (talk) 12:08, 24 September 2023 (EDT)

355 numbered, a blank page then "about the author" = 357
damn, it is spelled Nielson Susan O'Fearna (talk) 23:02, 6 November 2023 (EST)

Mark Powers / Dresden Files comics

Hi, just noticed you have some of the Dresden Files graphic novels verified. As such, I imagine you will be getting pings from me changing the (co-)author from "Mark Powers" to "Mark Powers (comics)". Please see ISFDB:Community_Portal#Mark_Powers_-_two_different_people for the background on this - hopefully it shouldn't be a controversial change. Thanks! ErsatzCulture (talk) 18:52, 19 November 2023 (EST)

Works for me... if they're different people we definitely need to differentiate them! Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:09, 20 November 2023 (EST)

Book of Ballads

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282239; Cover art and 7 of the contents have the wrong month, 10 instead of 11. --Username (talk) 21:19, 19 November 2023 (EST)

All of these were previously published in individual comics format AND there was the BALLADS book published earlier with only part of the content... Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:11, 20 November 2023 (EST)

Firebirds Rising

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?82103; I added Archive.org link in a PENDING edit and I think page count should just be 530 with brackets removed from contents at the end because the numbers are clearly visible at the tops of the pages. --Username (talk) 17:35, 21 November 2023 (EST)

I checked and it does have page numbers thru 530! fixed it Susan O'Fearna (talk) 19:32, 26 November 2023 (EST)
Susan, I'm holding your edit. In addition to changing the page numbers, you are converting from an ISBN10 to an ISBN13. We record the form that is on the pub. The Internet Archive scan shows the ISBN10 on the copyright page and the back cover. An ISBN13 would be unusual for a 2006 book. Does yours actually have a ISBN13? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:39, 27 November 2023 (EST)
yes, on the bar code Susan O'Fearna (talk) 20:41, 27 November 2023 (EST)
I see it now. I focused on the labeled ISBN10. I approved the edit and added a note about the ISBN placement. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:29, 29 November 2023 (EST)
Cool, thanks - now for all the rest of my pending edits... Susan O'Fearna (talk) 13:34, 2 December 2023 (EST)

Hyenas

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?336933; Page count of copies on Archive.org is 100, not 104. Also, the 2 stories need their page numbers added. --Username (talk) 10:13, 25 November 2023 (EST)

changes are pending Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:45, 30 November 2023 (EST)

Someplace To Be Flying

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5824621; LCCN is for another book so I noted that. --Username (talk) 11:04, 2 December 2023 (EST)

I just tested it and it goes to Someplace to Be Flying Susan O'Fearna (talk) 13:36, 2 December 2023 (EST)
LCCN on copyright page is wrong so I made a note of that in the notes section and searched LoC site and got the right LCCN which was off by one number. --Username (talk) 17:44, 3 December 2023 (EST)
OK, that makes more sense :-) Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:38, 4 December 2023 (EST)

Out of Avalon

Can you please double check the title page of your Out of Avalon? I have the first printing and while the cover has "An Anthology of Old Magic and New Myths", the title page of mine is "Tales of Old Magic and New Myths". Since we record per the title page, I will be correcting the first printing and wanted to know if yours should likewise be corrected or made a variant. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2023 (EST)

I've updated the first printing. Please let me know what your second printing title page states. Also, please double check the page count. In the first printing, the last 2 pages are unnumbered so I switched mine to xi+338+[2]. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:44, 10 December 2023 (EST)

Whispers, August 1982

Hi Susan

I'm going to clean up the title of our mutually verified publication of Whispers, August 1982. We currently have the title as "Whispers #17-18, August 1982". However, the standards for magazine titles allow for either using the date or the issue number, but not both. The date is also preferred. I'll move the issue number into the notes. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 07:18, 8 December 2023 (EST)

Works for me Susan O'Fearna (talk) 11:00, 8 December 2023 (EST)

A Dance with Dragons Audiobook

Hi Susan

I've been catching up on entering my audiobooks. I own a digital copy of George R. R. Martin's A Dance with Dragons which I purchased on July 12, 2011. You have verified what appears to be the same edition that was released the same day. I see two changes I would like to make to the record. First, the cover appears to be the same as the Larry Rostant cover, and I'd like to import that cover. While the cover illustration of my copy is essentially the same, it does differ in some of the text and lacks the gold bar at the top. My cover can be seen here. Does the cover of your copy match mine, or does it match the one we currently have? Could you check yours and let me know? If yours doesn't match mine, do you recall if you obtained yours in 2011 or more recently? I suspect that the cover we currently have may be from a later publication and not what was issued in 2011. Thanks for checking, and do let me know if you're OK with importing the Rostant cover. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:48, 1 January 2024 (EST)

My sister and I have a shared library due to the Households and Family Library - she's the one who bought that particular book - some time in March of 2019... when I created the audible record here I linked to the amazon record, so it's likely the cover has changed Susan O'Fearna (talk) 23:56, 1 January 2024 (EST)
I should mention that I download all my audible purchases and manage them with iTunes. Thus, I have a saved copy of the cover present when I purchased it. If you keep your audiobooks in the cloud and use the Audible app, I believe that Audible will always show your their current cover in their app, as they do on their website. I'm guessing that you and your sister keep your copies in the cloud and thus it is uncertain which cover was present when the book was purchased in 2019. I think we should probably have two publication records, one with the original artwork with the 2011-07-12 date. Another would have the current artwork and since we can't pinpoint the date the cover changed, with the unknown (0000-00-00) date. I would also add a note to that record stating that the cover changed sometime between 2011-07-12 and 2023-04-26 (the date you verified the record and linked to the current cover). Assuming that we do this, and that you don't know which cover was present in your copy when purchased, would you prefer that your verified record be the one with the original cover and the 2011 date, or the current cover (with the gold bar) and the unknown date. Whichever you decide, I'll update the current record and add the second one, so you won't have to move your verification. Please let me know your preference. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:15, 2 January 2024 (EST)
for those books/stories *I* purchase or listen to I save the cover at that point for my nerd-base :-) but since Lisa got that one... because I save them to a massive off-line hard drive so I can listen to them away from the internet Susan O'Fearna (talk) 18:17, 3 January 2024 (EST)
I had forgotten that you host a server with much cover art that is in our list of sites giving us permission to link. Since you don't know what cover was present when the book was purchased, are you OK if I change the cover on the existing record? I will also create a new record for the new cover. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:06, 3 January 2024 (EST)
knock yourself out - I just like them to be in here :-) Susan O'Fearna (talk) 13:37, 4 January 2024 (EST)
All done. Let me know if you see anything else that needs changing. Thanks! --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:48, 4 January 2024 (EST)

Olivia de B.

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?814699; Shouldn't cover artist have the same last name as the other credits? --Username (talk) 19:42, 2 January 2024 (EST)

thanks for catching that... do you want to fix it or should I? Susan O'Fearna (talk) 14:26, 3 January 2024 (EST)
I think you should as PV. --Username (talk) 17:10, 3 January 2024 (EST)
it's pending now Susan O'Fearna (talk) 13:37, 4 January 2024 (EST)

Journey to the Center of the Earth

Hi Susan

I've got another audiobook with a change in cover that we both own, Verne's Journey to the Center of the Earth read by Tim Curry. My copy has this cover without the yellow Audible flag and with Curry's signature appearing above his name. I purchased my copy on March 6, 2012. Could you check your records and see if your cover is the same as the Amazon cover linked or matches mine. If you don't have records for this one, I can handle it the same way as I did the Martin. I'll also note, that I was able to match the translation based on this page and have linked it to the others where the translation has been identified. Thanks in advance for your help on these. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:56, 4 January 2024 (EST)

I actually PREFER it without the store branding! thanks!! Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:37, 5 January 2024 (EST)

The Handmaids Tale Audiobook

Hi Susan

I expect I'll keep finding these. Your copy of Atwood's The Handmaids Tale is listed with Marcellino artwork. My copy was purchased on December 15, 2012 and does not have artwork on the cover, which can be seen here. My copy would also be part of the A List Collection publication series. Can you determine whether yours has the illustrated cover, or the text cover? I'll happily clone the existing record to ensure your verification stays on the proper record. Let me know which cover you believe that you have, or if you can't determine, which record you would like to have your verification. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:04, 7 January 2024 (EST)

That's another one my sister got... I've only ever seen it with the artwork cover but you can do what you think is appropriate! Susan O'Fearna (talk) 14:52, 8 January 2024 (EST)
Thanks. I left yours as the one with the artwork and adjusted the date. As before, let me know if you have an issues with the changes. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:10, 8 January 2024 (EST)
Will do Susan O'Fearna (talk) 11:41, 9 January 2024 (EST)

The Hobbit Audiobook

Hi Susan -

I've got another one, the record for Tolkien's The Hobbit has the newer cover with the small RB logo in the lower right hand corner. Whereas, the copy I purchased on October 1, 2013 has the older red bordered cover. I'm under the impression that Recorded Books changed their trade dress fairly recently, within the last 1-2 years, but that's just my best guess. Do you think your copy likely had the earlier cover, or is this one that you purchased in 2023 when you verified it? Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 20:31, 11 January 2024 (EST)

another one my sister bought, feel free to do whatever you wish to it - I'm waiting for the rumored Stephen Fry or Martin Freeman versions... Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:05, 12 January 2024 (EST)

Collected Fantasies of Clark Ashton Smith

Hi Susan -

I've come to the first volume of the Collected Fantasies of Clark Ashton Smith, The End of the Story. My copy was purchased 2014-05-05 and my cover lacks the "Only from Audible" banner. Unfortunately, I can't find a high quality image of that cover. The image downloaded into my iTunes from 2014 is here. I'll also note, that the audio book does not appear to have the introduction, the note on the texts, nor any of the story notes, alternate versions and other back matter from the paper edition. However, it does have an excerpt from the second volume in the series, The Door to Saturn. Further, this was published by the Audible Frontiers imprint. I would guess that the further volumes in the series will require similar changes. None of mine have the yellow banner. However, I'm working through my library in the order I purchased them and have not gotten to the other volumes yet. While I recall that you prefer the image without the branding, do you know whether the cover of your edition has the banner or not? Can you pin down when your copies were purchased. Let me know, and I'll make sure we have records for both covers, and for the other volumes when I get to them. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 07:21, 17 January 2024 (EST)

I bought it as a "free to audible members" but haven't had a chance to listen since I got so sick and spent so much time in hospital over the last two years, but it was Sept 2021 (maybe Oct) and mine always had the yellow banner so I can't confirm the contents except what the audible description says. Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:46, 17 January 2024 (EST)
I see. They series is all in Audible Plus. I've cloned the publication after making the changes. While I do recall that the essays were missing, I had a listen to the opening and closing and have verified they are not there. Happily, that's how I found the excerpt. As before, let me know if you have any concerns with my changes. I'll handle the other volumes similarly. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:51, 17 January 2024 (EST)
Works for me Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:44, 18 January 2024 (EST)

S&S II

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5866223; I added link and pages to this 4th printing but it says printed in Canada on copyright page, you say in one of your edits that you have the book in hand so if you still have it can you verify that it says Canada? I don't see any indication on title page that publisher is Canadian (I think those say NAL of Canada or something) so maybe DAW started printing in Canada around that time but the books were still American publications? --Username (talk) 11:05, 21 January 2024 (EST)

I'll try to get into the garage after work today... Susan O'Fearna (talk) 09:44, 5 February 2024 (EST)

Scalzi's The Dispatcher

Hi Susan -

Another cover question. You uploaded a new cover for John Scalzi's The Dispatcher on August 13, 2019. It has the "Only from Audible" flag in black and white as well as "Audible Original" across the top. My copy does not have any of the audible branding and can be seen here. Further, there is a newer cover from Audible that has the flag in yellow and I've cloned the publication here. I downloaded my copy on October 4, 2016. I'd like to either revert the cover of our mutually verified copy to the version without the Audible branding, or leave your upload in place and change the date to unknown with a note that it was reissued sometime between 2016-10-04 and 2019-08-13. I'd then clone the record for the other edition and one of us would move our verification. Let me know if you agree and how you'd like to proceed. I think changing the date on the existing record is probably a bit easier. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:14, 30 January 2024 (EST)

as for The Dispatcher, I'd swear when I bought it the cover was a Vincent Chong cover... I'll for-sure check my other drive on that one Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:21, 5 February 2024 (EST)
Just ran across another one. My copy of Bradley's The Mists of Avalon has this cover and was purchased 2016-09-19. Whereas, you've verified this record on 2023-04-23 which is, I believe, a newer cover. I'd like to change the date of your record to unknown with a note that it was issued between 2016-09-19 and 2023-02-13. I'd also clone it with the earlier date and the earlier cover. Do you have any objections to those change? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:02, 30 January 2024 (EST)
Not a bit - that's another sister-bought book... I read MZB but not her Avalon books Susan O'Fearna (talk) 12:33, 31 January 2024 (EST)

Neverwhere Bonus Story

Hi Susan -

I discovered an odd thing while adding my audiobook of Gaiman's Neverwhere. My copy was purchased in 2016 and has a 2007 production date within the book. However, my Audible library shows a 2017 edition with an increased length (13 hours, 48 minutes vs 12 hours, 33 minutes). This appears to match your verified copy, but also shows a new cover. I downloaded the new copy and added it here. To account for the change in length, I noticed that there's a note on the cover of your copy that mentions that it includes the story How the Marquis Got His Coat Back. I used audible's cloud player and found that the story begins at about 41 minutes into chapter 20, in case you want to verify. I've added it to my record with the newer cover. I'm only mentioning it as you may want to import the story into your copy. I don't really expect Audible to replace my purchases with newer editions, but as they gave me an extra story, I suppose I can't really complain. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:27, 3 February 2024 (EST)

I'll check, but I think audible automatically updates, so it'd be cool if I have Marquis Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:23, 5 February 2024 (EST)

Slaughterhouse-Five

Hi Susan -

Found another one. You've verified this copy of Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five. The copy that I purchased on February 28, 2017 has the same cover, but without the "Only from Audible" flag in the bottom right corner. I'll clone this to make two copies, one for each cover. Do you think your verification should stay on the one with the flag or the one without? I'll also point out that we have the title as "Slaughterhouse-Five or The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance with Death" and the author as "Kurt Vonnegut, Jr." However, the audiobook has the shorter title of simply "Slaughterhouse-Five" and the author as simply "Kurt Vonnegut" with out the Jr. I'll change both those at the same time unless you have an objection. Let me know which cover you think belongs with your copy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:23, 5 February 2024 (EST)

I've READ Slaughterhouse Five but I hated it - that was another book my sister bought (I doubt she listened to it, but she got it!) - so another instance where you can do whatever you want with it :-) Susan O'Fearna (talk) 09:59, 6 February 2024 (EST)

Derelict

Hi,

Just a quick note that I added the pub series to your verified. I am working through their books to get all ZNB Book Collectors numbers in place. Hope you are doing well. Annie (talk) 10:42, 7 February 2024 (EST)

I just have the ones I got off Kickstarter - I'm still not recovering from the surgery well and the surgeon keeps saying I may need **another** surgery to correct what he screwed up the FIRST time -- and it's really pissing me off that I can't walk the dog and just bending over can make me bleed or vomit and wind up back in the hospital -- all because he messed up that first surgery! Susan O'Fearna (talk) 14:58, 7 February 2024 (EST)
That sucks :( Hopefully things improve quickly! Annie (talk) 15:46, 7 February 2024 (EST)
it's been 2 years of medical hell and I'm so over it! Susan O'Fearna (talk) 18:14, 7 February 2024 (EST)

Coraline

Hi Susan

Hope you're feeling better. I've got another one. My copy of Gaiman's Coraline has this cover which has a red bar at the bottom stating "Unabridged". I purchased and downloaded my copy on 2017-09-29. I see that your verified copy has a cover without the red bar. I also see that you uploaded the cover of your copy on 2019-08-06 and you verified the copy on 2018-12-16. I'd like to change the date of your record to unknown with a note that it was issued sometime between 2017-09-29 and 2018-12-16. I would also clone yours for a record for my copy with the earlier date. Please let me know if that sounds OK. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:55, 9 February 2024 (EST)

of course... 07-24-2018 was my purchase date if that helps in any way Susan O'Fearna (talk) 10:14, 12 February 2024 (EST)

All Systems Red

Hi Susan - I've come across another one where there was a cover change. You've verified Martha Wells' All Systems Red on 2023-04-26. I purchased my copy on 2018-02-21 and it has the older Recorded Books trade dress with the red bars as seen here. My sense is that the change from the red bars to the small RB in a lower corner occurred sometime in 2023. Do you think the current Amazon cover is accurate to your edition? I'll clone to make another record with the other trade dress based on your answer. Sorry to have to keep asking you about these, though it is interesting to see where our libraries intersect. Hope you're doing OK. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:06, 14 February 2024 (EST)

3-29-2021 was my purchase date - feel free to do whatever you wish, thanks! Susan O'Fearna (talk) 11:29, 15 February 2024 (EST)

The Lions of al-Rassan

Hi Susan -

Found another one. Your verified copy of The Lions of al-Rassan has the cover with the "Only from Audible" flag. You added the record and verified it on 2018-12-02. My copy has this cover without the flag and was purchased on 2018-06-10. We seem to be getting very close to the day when Audible started using that flag. If you purchased your copy on December 12, 2018, then I would suggest adjusting the date on yours to "2018-00-00" as the flag was added sometime between June and December. If you bought yours much earlier, I could change the cover on your record to the version without the flag and add my verification. I'd also like to change the publisher to the "Audible Frontiers" imprint which is how it is stated within the audio book. Please let me know how you'd like me to proceed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:51, 29 February 2024 (EST)

you can do whatever you like with these - I like to see all the different covers :-) Susan O'Fearna (talk) 16:38, 1 March 2024 (EST)

Martin's Fire & Blood

Hi Susan -

I've found another one. Your copy of George R. R. Martin's Fire & Blood that you verified on 2023-04-26 has a HBO tie-in cover which is consistent with that date. My copy was purchased 2018-11-20 and has this cover. Given the difference in the dates, I'm going to go ahead and adjust the publication date of your record with a note narrowing down the cover change as best we can. Please let me know if you have any concerns with my changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:14, 2 March 2024 (EST)

another one of my sister's purchases... Susan O'Fearna (talk) 15:16, 11 March 2024 (EDT)

The Fireman

Hi Susan -

I have a question about Joe Hill's The Fireman. I see that we are listing a story, "What If There Was Just a Little Bit More Story?" as included with the novel. I haven't actually listened to the novel yet, but looking at the track listing in the Audible app, the last track before the End Credits is titled "Delivery". I also jumped around at the end of that track and didn't detect a separate story. Are you sure that the story is included in the audio edition? I'll leave the story in place until I hear from you. However, I am going to replace the Amazon image with one that we host. I'm also going to use the Narrator template in the notes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:42, 3 March 2024 (EST)

now this one I DID buy, I'll check it out! Susan O'Fearna (talk) 15:17, 11 March 2024 (EDT)

Hirsch's Sovereign

Hi Susan -

Hope you're doing well. For Jeff Hirsch's Sovereign, your copy which you verified on 2020-02-26 has the yellow "Only from Audible" flag. The flag on the cover of my copy which I downloaded 2019-02-20 is white (seen here). I had a peek at archive.org for this one and it looks like the change in cover happened sometime between 2019-04-05 and 2020-04-05. I'm going to go ahead and clone your record and adjust the dates. I'll also add the Audible Original publication series. Let me know if you have any concerns about these changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 08:26, 9 March 2024 (EST)

Similar differences between the covers of your copy of Les Bohem's Junk and my copy, and I'll be proceeding with similar edits. Again, let me know if you have concerns. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:06, 9 March 2024 (EST)

sounds like a plan to me Susan O'Fearna (talk) 15:18, 11 March 2024 (EDT)

Christmas Horror Volume 1

Wil you check the title of your verified publication. All the others show 'Christmas Horror: Vol. 1' on the title page. Thanks, John Scifibones 07:49, 16 March 2024 (EDT)

the title page is actually an image and has vol, like the cover but the copyright page reads: CHRISTMAS HORROR VOLUME. 1

Copyright © 2015 Dark Regions Press Susan O'Fearna (talk) 03:19, 17 March 2024 (EDT)

His Majesty's Dragon

Hi Susan -

I'm going to adjust the dates of Novik's His Majesty's Dragon. My copy has this cover and was purchased on March 31, 2016. Given your verification date of 9/20/2023, I assume that you have the current cover. I'd also recommend deleting the excerpt of Throne of Jade. I've got a copy of the paperback as well, which does include the excerpt, and I listened to the end of the audio version and the excerpt is not present there. However, I won't delete it from your copy without your agreement. Do let me know if you have any concerns with the date changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:11, 16 March 2024 (EDT)

The same situation exists for Throne of Jade and Black Powder War. My copies purchased in 2016 have these covers: 1 and 2. Neither audio book includes the excerpt from the next book in the series and I've verified this with the paperback copies. It's also interesting that the audio book itself gives the publisher as "Books on Tape" for all three of these. This isn't surprising as BoT is an imprint of Random House. In any case I'll be changing the dates for these as well but will hold off on deleting the excerpts until I hear from you. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:06, 16 March 2024 (EDT)

My sister bought the Temeraire books, so I'm not sure what they were when she did or even when she did, but I do have plans to listen to them here as when I listened to them it was off the overdrive/library, so I'm ready to re-listen... Susan O'Fearna (talk) 03:15, 17 March 2024 (EDT)

Stephen Fry's Sherlock Holmes

Hi Susan - I've got some changes I'd like to make to Sherlock Holmes narrated by Stephen Fry, which you've verified and which I will once I'm done with the changes. First, I think we should make this an OMNIBUS instead of a COLLECTION, especially since it contains several novels. I actually was adding a publication with the original cover here when the software flagged your copy as a potential duplicate. I hadn't caught it earlier since I was looking for omnibuses. I'd also like to import the missing content and remove the note stating that it's missing. I'll also swap the Amazon image for one of ours, and use the Narrator template. Finally, I would change the date of our copy to unknown. The latest copy on archive.org with the old cover without the yellow Audible flag is from 2017-09-17. My copy was purchased on 2019-10-27 and has the flag, so I would add a note that the new cover occurred sometime between those dates. Please let me know if you are OK with these changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:15, 22 March 2024 (EDT)

cool, was considering doing that - it was already IN here when I verified it but changing type is such a pain... Susan O'Fearna (talk) 16:52, 23 March 2024 (EDT)

Salvatore

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3124916; Should this be as R. A. so it will be in the record with all the author's other works? --Username (talk) 21:43, 13 April 2024 (EDT)

Definitely Susan O'Fearna (talk) 15:36, 21 April 2024 (EDT)

Brin's Glory Season

Hi Susan - It's been a while since our libraries crossed. I'm going to update our mutually verified copy of David Brin's Glory Season. The original publication didn't have the Only from Audible banner which was added between 2017-09-25 and 2019-10-07. I'm going to change the date to unknown and add a note about the range of dates when it was added. I'm also going to change the publisher to "Audible Frontiers" as that is how it appears within the book. As always, let me know if you have any problems with these changes. Hope you're doing well. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:19, 25 April 2024 (EDT)

Death: The Time of Your Life

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?593188; I think Clarie Danes should be Claire, famous actress. There's a fourth printing on Archive.org that says printed in Canada. --Username (talk) 10:08, 26 April 2024 (EDT)

Lisdoonvarna

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5953607; Fixed/added info. --Username (talk) 09:51, 1 May 2024 (EDT)