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== Otherwere, again ==
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== ''The Tenpercent Thief'' again ==
  
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I was reviewing your edit to the R.A. Salvatore story and noticed that {{T|461511|Sharewere}} says it's "by" Shariann N. Lewitt as a variant of the same story by Shariann Lewitt BUT... there's no "N" anywhere on the copyright page, the ToC or at the story first page.  How to fix this as a merge instead of a variant? [[User:Ofearna|Susan O'Fearna]] 00:49, 20 August 2022 (EDT)
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I've added another installment to our previous discussion [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:PeteYoung#Lavanya_Lakshminarayan.27s_Analog.2FVirtual_vs_The_Ten_Percent_Thief here], if you want to chime in. Cheers. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] ([[User talk:PeteYoung|talk]]) 14:54, 2 July 2023 (EDT)
  
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: I ''think'' the most basic thing to do is to "Remove Titles From This Pub" the story by "Shariann N. Lewitt" and then "Import Content" the story by "Shariann Lewitt" (and adding the 195 page number to it).  That in turn I think will automatically remove the no longer needed Shariann N. Lewitt variant of the story, and in turn the "Shariann N. Lewitt" pseudonym will go, as that seems to be the only title associated with it. 
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== GB not in US ==
  
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: Quite probably, just doing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=title_title&O_1=exact&TERM_1=sharewere&C=AND&USE_2=title_title&O_2=exact&TERM_2=&USE_3=title_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=title_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=title_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=title_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=title_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=title_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=title_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=title_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=title_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Title a merge on the two "Sharewere"s] will accomplish the same end result in one rather than two steps, but I don't think I've ever done that with titles where one is a variant of the other, so personally I'd opt for the remove/import steps, just to avoid tempting fate doing something different for the first time. (Maybe someone else with more experience will see this convo and chip in?) I'm happy to do those two steps myself, given I have self-approver rights, and so I can do them at the same time, and not run the risk of having the data in an inconsistent state for more than a minute or so.
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1791329; I saw your recent message about the list of British books not published in the U.S. and clicked one at random because the title sounded interesting, Satan's Daughter, and it turns out that I entered the U.S. edition from Pocket Books back in 2021. So there may be others that don't belong on that list. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:09, 4 July 2023 (EDT)
  
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: BTW, I'm mildly curious where "Shariann N. Lewitt" came from in the first place - it seems to date from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?437171 a 2007 edit] by an editor long gone - but I guess that'll be a mystery lost to time... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 08:54, 20 August 2022 (EDT)
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: That the list stops at 2020 might give an indication of how "recent" it was generated ;-)  I've not looked at that code or even re-run it for over 3 years - I vaguely recall there are niggly things with author and title variants that could cause false positives and/or negatives, and I didn't have the motivation to try and improve that. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 12:15, 4 July 2023 (EDT)
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:I figured it might not be an updated list. Still useful, though. On the plus side, while looking into this I discovered a fairly recent eBay listing which showed the copyright page of the U.S. edition (January) so I made an edit for that. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:28, 4 July 2023 (EDT)
  
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== The Employees ==
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== List prices from UK sources ==
  
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Just heads up as you worked on this one: based on what I am seeing in the book I was holding and all other versions, the subtitle belongs up on the title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2862559 here] so I updated that (and added a note on the exact length and so on). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:24, 3 September 2022 (EDT)
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If you get bored, you may want to see if you can find the list prices of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=pub_price&O_1=exact&TERM_1=%A3&C=AND&USE_2=pub_year&O_2=exact&TERM_2=2022&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&USE_7=pub_title&O_7=exact&TERM_7=&USE_8=pub_title&O_8=exact&TERM_8=&USE_9=pub_title&O_9=exact&TERM_9=&USE_10=pub_title&O_10=exact&TERM_10=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication these] (there will be more - so check occasionally). Fixer is ending its reconciliations so quite a lot of UK books showed up on my current sweep through 2022. For some finding the list price is easier than it is for others. I plan to take another stab at these once I am done with the complete range but if you have nothing better to do or you can fill in from your scrapping, have fun :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:20, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
  
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: No worries, thanks for letting me know.
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: I vaguely recognize a couple of them, but I don't generally submit anything more than 30 days out, so if you and Fixer beat me to it, my tools will mark them as done, and not pick up on any missing info.   
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: Although you messaging about this prompted me to look at my accumulated data on this, and there's something weird going on with the UK ebook.  At the time I submitted the original UK tp [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4981910 GR had an ASIN that Amazon UK didn't know about].  I have data scraped from Amazon UK in Feb 2022 from the New Directions US ebook (which matches the pub you and Fixer added around the same time), but now Amazon UK has an ebook from the same publisher as the UK tp?!?  But Amazon UK now no longer lists the UK tp, and Kobo still doesn't have any ebook, so seems I'm no closer to knowing if that has an ISBN.  Sigh, will try to sort that out in the next couple of days.... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 15:46, 4 September 2022 (EDT)
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: (This is one of the downsides of Fixer picking up UK pubs early, and/or you creating them when the US one comes in - if I haven't already got some data for one of the other pubs like ebook or audio, I might never see it in my upcoming/TODO pages. There are a couple of ways I could fix that, but I've been too lazy to do anything about it as yet.)
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:: The US hardcover has the isbn and LCCn of the ebook (plus its own values) so the US ebook checks out everywhere. I will see if I can get it from my library to do another check on it anyway. As for the UK ebook - [https://www.lollieditions.com/ebooks/the-employees-ebook the publisher site] shows the isbn as the UK ones which means that either they shared thus making tracking by isbn a nightmare (which would explain why it keeps sending you to the Tp or why an isbn link leads to the ebook now somewhere) or did not add an isbn to the ebook at all. Or their site is just crap. But at least it shows that there is an ebook and it has a price.  And when I look at Amazon UK Fronten isbn it shows me the tp (just fyi) - not available for purchase and so on but it shows the tp under the isbn.  :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:22, 4 September 2022 (EDT)
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: That said, most of them I don't think I've got anything at all for currently, and I wouldn't have thought American Psycho or Beloved were eligible for inclusion :-)  Will try to pick them up once I've got other stuff out the way - that Chinese anthology is still half-complete, but I've had enough of all that for today... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:29, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
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:: These are from 2022 (some were even added them but most were added today). Finding the prices on 2023 is a lot easier - the older ones get... harder. If I need you to look at something I added as future/new, I ping you specifically but for older ones - I may as well give you the search page. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:34, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
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== Application ==
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::: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?941467 This one] is an export edition, and whilst Blackwell's and to a lesser extent Amazon sometimes list them, I've never found a great source for those editions that's easy-to-scrape.  I did write a scraper for an Australian site, but I've almost never used it, as it turned out they pretty much only ever listed the regular UK editions.  Must confess I only looked at Australian and NZ sites, maybe some mainland Europe ones might be more amenable to sourcing info from?  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:39, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
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:::: Then add a note "International edition" and leave it as is for now. I will look at these again later - I usually can find international prices (usually via AU/NZ stores) :) Some of these may be hard to solve - so don't worry about them but quite a few I added today were just the regular paperbacks. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:41, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
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Hi! I don't know if you have seen my [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Applying_for_self-moderating application for self-moderating]. Would you mind to leave a comment? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 06:59, 25 September 2022 (EDT)
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::::: PS: That one is [https://www.brownsbfs.co.uk/Product/Singh-Nalini/Storm-echo/9781399604512 solved] :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 19:54, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
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: Hi Christian, I'm afraid I don't feel able to make an informed comment, as I only have self-approver privileges myself, so I don't have any visibility on the edits you've been making.  (I skim through the "Recent Edits" list every day or so, and click on the ones that look relevant to my interests, but I don't think any of your recent submissions matched my personal tastes... ;-)
 
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: That said, I will make the observation that some of the edits you've made in the past to my submissions have annoyed me.  A big one was [[User_talk:Stonecreek#Ministry_for_the_Future_title_.26_pub_dates]], but I remember when I was a very new editor back in 2019, and you made edits to a couple of my submissions/PVs [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pub_history.cgi?743049] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pub_history.cgi?741100] without any sort of message on my talk page to explain what I'd done wrong and/or why you'd made those changes.  (You did add a comment re. the second one a couple of days after making your edit, which I had some issues with, as I don't think the Baxter book had "officially" been announced as the first in a series at that time - even though I agree that it certainly looked that way - but because I was a new editor, I wasn't going to argue with a moderator.)   
 
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: The main reason I very quickly gave up contributing to Wikipedia - other than making very minor/quick corrections and additions - is that I got fed up with seemingly-long established Wikipedia editors coming in and making things (IMHO) worse and/or deleting my contributions, without any attempt to communicate about why I'd done things the way I did, or how I might improve something they thought was deficient.  I switched over to ISFDB because I thought that contributions would be judged on quality rather than submitter, and I was a bit dismayed when some of my early ones were changed for little-to-no-reason, and with no explanation.  (I have no idea what the addition of "New edition" to the note to the John Birmingham book is supposed to mean, and some of the changes in wording seem slightly awkward to my native-speaker ears, albeit the meaning is still clear, so I have never reverted things.)
 
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: Hopefully you no longer make changes like those/in that manner, but as I haven't looked at your recent edits, I don't know, so I'm afraid I won't comment on that talk item.  Based on what I am aware of, my inclination would in any case be to neither add approval nor disapproval, but leave it to the consensus of other editors/moderators/admins. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 08:48, 25 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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== DAW books ==
 
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When adding the UK editions of books where the US publisher is DAW in the next few months, can you please check the dates on the DAW books and ping me if you see anything odd? I have it on my calendar to check them in the weeks of publication but after the move from one corporate owner to another, there had been a lot of shuffling of dates (in both directions from what I can see) so on the "two sets of eyes are better than one" principle, just heads up. I've marked the more suspicious ones with the watchPrePub but some seem stable (until they are not) and I would rather not mark them all or delay adding them. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:03, 10 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Sure, no problem. I started a new job last week last week, so I probably won't have as much time to submit stuff as in the past, but will try to keep up with new adult UK pubs, and maybe let stuff like missing old ebooks and juveniles slide a bit. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:52, 10 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: Good luck with the new job. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 21:03, 10 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: [https://old.reddit.com/r/PubTips/comments/yk7qqf/discussion_multiple_authors_are_advising_people/ Possibly relevant Reddit thread] (the meat is in linked Twitter comments).  It doesn't sound like this affects any pubs that are yet in the database though. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 13:46, 2 November 2022 (EDT)
 
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:::: It was inevitable. But as we do not add more than 60 days out (90 per the rules but I rarely have a book on 60+ added except for some reprints and things Fixer thinks are reprints which may get in a few days earlier) and that means books are more or less already at the printer or late stages of their preparation by the time we add so they may get delayed and/or shuffled a bit but they should not be cancelled for the most part. But yes - I am keeping an eye on DAW books at the moment a bit more than for the other major US publishers. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:33, 2 November 2022 (EDT)
 
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Please make sure that when you self-approve, you follow our capitalization rules. I've updated a few in the last few months but figured I should mention something about it when I found another one today. For example [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3042161 here], "with" was capitalized on the title and both editions you added. As you do not have a moderator approving to check and fix these, you are expected to. Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:11, 20 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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: On a separate note - now that the book is out, I really do not see any indication that it is actually speculative. Any objection to deleting it? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:14, 20 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: Ah, sorry about that. Do you have any recollection of other titles/words I screwed up on?  Without checking [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditTitle the help page], I would have assumed "With" was by the rules.  (As an aside, I had [https://isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3061686 this] open in another tab, and thought that might be contra the rules, but I was a bit surprised to see that "This" is correct.) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:18, 20 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: Not really - I do not keep notes on that but I know I had had to correct a few when Fixer comes after you do the initial NewPub (that's how I found this one - it had been happening more in the last months because of the delays in Fixer's processing as we discussed earlier) so I figured I should gently remind you to actually look at the help page and consult it until you have the list by heart and by rote (it is a very short list after all - a/an/the, and/or, at/to, for/from, in/on, by/of/with is how I group them in my head and it helps me). If I have to guess, it is a preposition somewhere which came capitalized and you left it in place (or something like "under" or "without" or "out" (used as a preposition) or something like that - I know I always need to check some of these twice if I had not added any books for a few days :). That's the less glamorous part of being a self-approver - you should be checking the help page if you had not internalized the rule for a specific thing. We all miss things but at least trying to check the guide when you see a small word you do not use often helps. Or when you do something different from what you do daily. It is not the end of the world and there are much bigger things one can screw up but... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:07, 20 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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:::: Re. "the less glamorous part" - there's glamour involved in contributing to ISFDB? ;-)  Reminds me of the recent-ish post on FB from an author, asking who/where they could pay ISFDB to ensure their work was included here...
 
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::::: Well, that sounded better than "now that you can self-approve, on top of doing everything else, you also need to do all this as well".  ;) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:55, 21 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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:::::: Just to show you're not completely wasting your breath [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5461796], [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5461797]... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:50, 21 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: Re. this title's eligibility, I don't know any more than when I submitted it.  (It's definitely not a book that I personally have any interest in whatsoever ;-)  All I can say is: it has 44 shelvings as "Fantasy" on [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61126612-alone-with-you-in-the-ether GR] (vs 967 for "Romance", so you can definitely argue that's not meaningful); it's from a genre imprint; it uses a different author alias from [https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09YRP743L/ other stuff this person has put out], possibly implying different names for SFnal vs non-SFnal work.  FWIW, it got covered in [https://www.tor.com/2022/07/19/the-30-most-anticipated-sff-books-for-the-rest-of-2022/ a tor.com "Most anticipated SFF" roundup] with the comment "This isn’t a speculative novel upon first glance, instead it falls into my favorite category of fiction: weird shit."  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:18, 20 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: I will add the US edition but will leave the warning in place then. I hate these "not really ours but maybe ours" books. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 20:07, 20 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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:::: Yeah.  I'm slightly of the opinion that if a non-genre title gets some coverage in genre spaces, then there's an unwritten obligation to have it here, just so that people don't think the omission is through ignorance/omission rather than being deliberate.  (Stuff like Interior Chinatown and Velvet was the Night, that gets mentioned in genre awards, despite the respective authors saying those books have no genre content.)  If that's really the case though, then it probably should be more officially discussed and codified... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 17:35, 21 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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::::: What the author wants to call a book (speculative or not, novella or novel) is kinda irrelevant - they can protest as much as they want but if they have a talking ghost in a story that is 38.5K words, it is a novella and it is ours even if they call it a novel and not speculative).
 
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::::: It is an old conversation - the "borderline, sound like ours but are not" not being recorded makes sense for what the DB is but then we keep getting some of them over and over based on descriptions. On the other hand opening the ROA for them opens the door for a lot of ambiguity and just as with books reviewed in our magazines, I don't think someone mentioning/reviewing it somewhere should make it eligible. Plus there are the notes on the author pages - we can always utilize them in such cases without adding non-genre books to the DB. On the other hand, we are technically inclusive so when not sure, we add it and add notes and I think this is enough. But allowing non-speculative works which are KNOWN not to be speculative because they were reviewed as if they were or mentioned in awards is a bad idea IMO - awards nominations and people nominating books may not even have the same definitions as we do for example... so we stick to our definitions. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:55, 21 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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(nudge) Just a gentle reminder to watch out for the more confusing ones. "So", "As", "Into" and all forms of the verb "be" are always capitalized. You missed [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?924972 Into] this time. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:46, 15 December 2022 (EST)
 
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I was looking at your note [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3102872 here] and the preview of the book over on Amazon.com and I cannot see anything indicating that this is a fix-up novel (the 3 parts have titles which do not look like any of the pre-existing ones - and there are 3, not 2 of them). Would you have that review handy somewhere? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 18:06, 30 November 2022 (EST)
 
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: From first 2 paras of [https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4854986213?book_show_action=true the topmost GR review]: ''Beginning with two previously released novellas, now revised to string Moonglum and Elric's escapades in search of the history of Elric's ancestry on the underside of their egg-shaped world to the quest to find their way home once again. / The first two books pull the action and pacing from the original 60's Science Fantasy magazine releases.''  Whether it's a fixup novel or a collection wasn't clear to me - and the complexity of all the Moorcock series isn't something I care to try to make sense of ;-) - but I opted for the latter.  It did cross my mind to post on Community Portal in case there are any other editors more clued up on his work than me, but decided against it.  FWIW, there's no preview yet on Amazon UK, but please make any changes you see fit based on what Amazon.com are showing you. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:29, 30 November 2022 (EST)
 
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:: Per a quick Twitter search, [https://youtu.be/iGGBL64xsaU?t=595 in this YT video interview (link points at the right place)] Moorcock says it's "based on 2 short stories he wrote".  Don't have inclination to watch it all to see if he clarifies more than that... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 19:36, 30 November 2022 (EST)
 
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::: “Based on” is different from “made up from”. It will be a collection only if the novellas are there with (almost) no changes and even that review reads as if there was enough revisions to make that a novel. I’d say we should treat it as a novel. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 21:24, 30 November 2022 (EST)
 
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:::: I've added some more notes and a watchPrePub on the US book for now - we shall see how things look next week. I think it should be a novel but let's give it some time. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:50, 1 December 2022 (EST)
 
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::::: No worries.  BTW, in a similar vein - namely, questionable format of a new entry in an old fantasy series - I treated the REH reprint short story in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?921771 this] as "bonus material", similar to the previews in lots of Orbit pubs, rather than something which would turn it from a novel into an omnibus or collection.  Please correct me/it if that's the wrong interpretation of the rules; I did have a quick search on the wiki, but couldn't find anything obviously relevant, and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?587496 the closest similar pub I could think of] is also categorized as a novel. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:27, 1 December 2022 (EST)
 
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:::::: One story added to a novel publication does not make it a collection/anthology (unless it is supposed to be a collection/anthology basically - if both get equal billing like [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?923518 this one for example], it is obviously meant as a collection (you need 2 full length thingies for an omnibus)). I'd call the REH one a novel as well if I am adding it. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:03, 1 December 2022 (EST)
 
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: So, tor.com published [https://www.tor.com/2022/12/13/book-review-elric-the-citadel-of-forgotten-myths-by-michael-moorcock/ a review which has more detail than the others I've seen], saying it's a fixup, and naming the previously published stories.  Googling for the opening sentence from the Amazon preview of this new book, I found a dubious looking site that has the text of one of those stories from an anthology it appeared in, and whilst the title of that "part" has been changed, it looks like the chapters within it have the same titles, although maybe there's a chapter added?  (Or it could just as easily be a mangled scan on that dodgy site?)
 
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:: That last part (the majority being original and never published as a story) make me think that this should really be recorded as a novel indeed - despite the two complete stories inside. We need all pieces to be separate stories for it to be a collection. So yep - it is a novel.  [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 01:08, 15 December 2022 (EST)
 
  
 
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Hi, re your PV [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?583875 here].
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Hello, any objections to me changing the imprint / publisher for our PV'd {{P|583875|pub}} to HarperVoyager / HarperCollinsPublishers, per the copyright page? (see also [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?69562 here]) Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:24, 24 July 2023 (EDT)
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Your entry is definitely the 10th printing, so remove the question mark.
 
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Also, the Amazon reference is to the 1st printing in 2016 - not to your much later 10th. To that end your date ought to be entered as 0000-00-00, which will show up in the Titles listing as date unknown. The first line of your Notes also then becomes redundant. Hope this helps. Kev
 
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:Replacing Amazon image. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 22:20, 18 January 2023 (EST)
 
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:: Hi, sorry for ignoring you - I've been away from ISFDB.  I've updated this pub per your comments.  I'll try to go through your items below over the next day or so, but at first glance I don't think there's anything I have any issues with.  Cheers [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 10:09, 9 March 2023 (EST)
 
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== Richard Morgan - Broken Angels ==
 
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Hi, I have the 21st printing of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?776182 this entry]. A couple of points for you.
 
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Looking at the Help page [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_determine_the_value_for_the_%22Pages%22_field_in_a_book 2nd case here], would you agree that the page count should be 468?
 
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My cover has the Netflix flash as well and I think you/we could use [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:BRKNNGLSBW0000.jpg this cover] instead of that Amazon one. It's the only one in the db that has the text at the top. It's exactly the same as ours except no flash :) Hope this helps, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:08, 8 January 2023 (EST)
 
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: Agreed re. page count, I've made an edit.  I would scan my copy to have the "proper" cover image, except I left on the store price sticker, and 5 years later I suspect it won't be possible to remove without leaving a load of crud and residue, based on experience with other books bought at the same place :-( [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:41, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I understand your predicament :) I find that a Stanley-knife blade used carefully and washing-up liquid usually does the trick. I'll upload an image I have for you. Please let me know if it's inappropriate. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:52, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Image submitted. I've also added Orion as publisher (as per your data) while I was there. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 17:00, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 
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== Herbert - Dune Messiah - coverart ==
 
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Hi, replacing the Amazon image [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?615084 here]. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:57, 17 January 2023 (EST)
 
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== Gibson - Burning Chrome + Count Zero ==
 
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Hi, could you check yours [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?617092 here] [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?598221 and here]. Is the cover design by Steven Erkas or Sinem Erkas? Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 23:00, 28 January 2023 (EST)
 
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: Had to dig out a magnifying glass to check - my dodgy eyesight is why I'm mostly on ebooks these days ;-) - but yep, you're right.  I've edited them to fix.  Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:46, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 
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: UPDATE: Made the same fix for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?599352 Mona Lisa Overdrive].  I see the same "Steven" in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?595502 Neuromancer], but my copy of that is currently buried in a storage unit, not sure when I might be able to dig that out to verify 100% that has the same error.  Do you have a copy of that one by any chance?  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:51, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Yes I do and it's also Sinem, so you can finish your work :) I have a couple of different printings of each of those titles but I haven't got round to editing them yet. Thanks for checking yours. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:37, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 
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== Asimov - Second Foundation ==
 
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Could you check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?583872 this] to see if "And by Grafton 196'''5'''" should be "And by Grafton 196'''4'''". Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 23:01, 4 February 2023 (EST)
 
  
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: Just checked this and the Foundation's Edge a couple of items down, and you're right in both cases.  Some sort of brain, eye and/or finger problems on my part - both now fixed. Thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:59, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
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: Hi, I am a bit wary of this change, but for slightly selfish reasons.
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: The UK records for Harper Voyager are a mess, with the following all being used:
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: - "HarperVoyager"
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: - "HarperVoyager / HarperCollinsPublishers"
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: (This is from [https://github.com/JohnSmithDev/ISFDB-Tools/blob/master/publisher_variants.py#L51 a list I manually maintain] for the benefit of my own tools that do data analysis using the ISFDB backups; you can see that Gollancz, Orbit, Hodder and Tor/PanMac are much worse...)
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: About a year or two ago, I griped about this somewhere on the Wiki - I suspect it was either on my talk page, Annie's or Community Portal.  (Will edit this response to link to it, if I can locate it.)
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: When I submit new books based on the data I've scraped from various places, I submit as "Harper Voyager (UK)", which on the one hand, I don't like doing, because it's inaccurate - the space between "Harper" and "Voyager" is only for the US imprint(s) - but it's the only one that clearly indicates it's a UK imprint, which I think is the most important thing that a casual visitor to the site might need/want to know.
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: (A minor point is that HV itself recently started sprouting child imprints - see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?81111 "Magpie Books / Harper Voyager (UK)"].)
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: None of this is your fault, or problem to solve, but if possible I'd like to use this as a brazen attempt to reopen the prior conversation, and try to get some consensus about what to use going forwards, even if cleaning up all the old-data isn't going to happen any time soon regardless.
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: If you make a change to the relevant pubs in the meantime, I won't revert or complain though ;-)
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: Cheers [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 13:06, 25 July 2023 (EDT)
  
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== Asimov - Foundation and Empire ==
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== The Pomegranate Gate ==
  
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I'm replacing the Amazon image here [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?583654 2016 edition]. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:25, 12 February 2023 (EST)
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[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5700017 Ahem]. Moved the note to where it belongs, cleared the links :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:45, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
  
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== Asimov - Foundation's Edge ==
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: Does [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5726094 this] make us even then? ;-) I was a bit surprised this seems to be a Solaris UK/Commonwealth only release, I couldn't find any evidence of a US pub. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 15:49, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
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: EDIT: ah, I see you've just added a US pub for it, pretty sure I failed to find that when I looked.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 15:51, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
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:: Shrug - without enough details, it was unclear if it is the same one. So I left it alone until we know. Now we know and everyone is reunited. :)
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:: PS: I was mostly pulling your leg. I was chasing down the edits to see if a moderator missed to advise a new editor on where these links go (happens a lot -- as you cannot add them when you add a first book for an author so we routinely see them on the title level from new editors) and realized it was deliberately added on that level. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 15:59, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
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::: Gah, I have a vague recollection of recently noticing and fixing a note or link at the wrong level - title/pub probably.  Will have to remember to be more careful, so that I don't get relegated to having to get someone else to approve my edits... [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:17, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
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:::: You really need to mess up a LOT more for that to happen so I would not worry. Me pulling your leg when I spot these on the other hand... that may happen ;) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 16:28, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
  
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Hi, my copy [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?586988 of this] has the copyright as "Copyright © Nightfall Inc. 1982". Could you check yours? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:40, 12 February 2023 (EST)
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== Miller - Dark Benediction ==
  
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I've submitted a replacement for the Amazon image. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 11:05, 14 February 2023 (EST)
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Hello, re your PV'd {{P|950256|pub here}}, I'm importing the coverart title (per the paper edition) and replacing the Amazon image with an in-house one. Let me know if you're ok with that, thanks. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 00:22, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
  
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== Asimov - I, Robot ==
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: No worries - feel free to update cover images on my PVs without contacting me, unless you think there might be some potential for differences, like the SFMW cover for Lathe of Heaven, which seems to variously have the K. or not in the author name.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:33, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
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::Thanks:) I do pay a lot of attention to cover art, Gollancz, in particular, can't seem to resist making changes to their artwork - made easy, now it's all digital. Sometimes the differences are unnoticeable unless one switches between images. It might be a good idea to check your ebook - sfgateway.com show the ebook cover for Dark Benediction as having "JR" after Miller (and that's what I've submitted), whereas they show the tp as just plain Miller. Unusual. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 18:13, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
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::: OK, I've just dug it out - the cover image credit is just "Walter M. Miller", no "JR".  (The title page is indeed Walter M. Miller Jr., FWIW)
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::: So the Amazon-sourced image currently on the pub page is wrong, as is the image on sfgateway.com - at least for the book as I downloaded it earlier this year.  So it sounds like the image you uploaded is incorrect, if it has "JR"?  If you want me to do a screengrab of the Kindle version, just let me know here to confirm.
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::: (I should have known I was tempting fate with this one, as well as the Le Guins, I have a vague recollection of similar chaos on The Sirens of Titan wrt having Jr or not....) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:39, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
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::::No probs, leave it with me, I'll sort it - your cover has no "JR". Good that you checked! What I've started to add to my edits, where appropriate, is a heads-up to alert editors that there are variations of images. So if they're cloning (or whatever) they might be able to make better decisions. At least we can try... Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:15, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
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:::::And done. Btw, {{P|765974|here's}} an amusing couple of images to compare - check out the "6th printing" link in the notes. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:23, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
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:::::: Haha, I thought I was eagle-eyed about stuff like this ;-)  TBH, ebook covers are a right PITA - given how they get changed at the whim of a publisher, how the image on Amazon/Kobo etc often doesn't match the actual ebook file, etc - that I don't pay them as much attention as I maybe should.  Thanks for uploading a fixed copy. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 10:04, 31 August 2023 (EDT)
  
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Hi, letting you know I'm replacing the Amazon image, adding OCLC# and the cover finish [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?661434 here]. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 00:42, 15 February 2023 (EST)
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== July-August issue of <i>Asimov's</i> ==
  
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== Asimov - Robots and Empire ==
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Good catch on the e-version the July-August issue of <i>Asimov's</i>.  I've been wanting to see somebody do e-versions of this magazine for some time now.  Hope you keep up doing it.  However, I just added the cover artist. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 04:10, 7 September 2023 (EDT)
  
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Hi, re this {{P|654010|2018 1st print}}. I'm replacing the Amazon image, adding novel pagination and changing the publisher as per the copyright page. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 09:40, 25 February 2023 (EST)
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: Thanks.  As for "Hope you keep up doing it.", TBH one of the reasons I bought it - and the corresponding issue of Analog - was that the current/imminent (?) changes to Amazon's services to magazines meant that I wasn't sure if these were one of the last ones that were available, so I thought I'd grab them whilst I could.  Plus they were both weirdly cheap in the UK, compared to the USD price on Amazon.com - I suspect someone hasn't updated the exchange rate prices.
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: I was also pleasantly surprised that they were effectively both a PDF and an EPUB - I'd heard before complaints that they were effectively just PDFs of the print version, which are nigh on unreadable on a Kindle.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 14:28, 7 September 2023 (EDT)
  
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I'm doing the same with The Caves of Steel {{P|654007|2018 1st print}}. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 13:58, 25 February 2023 (EST)
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== Masterworks II ==
  
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And the same with The Naked Sun {{P|654008|2018 1st print}}. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 17:17, 25 February 2023 (EST)
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Hi, more imprint / publisher stuff... :( I've read your careful notes for these three pubs; {{P|747822|The Space Merchants}}, {{P|583583|Swastika Night}}, {{P|827500|More Than Human}} and I'm asking if you'd be ok with me adding Orion (i.e. to Gollancz / Orion). Thanks. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:47, 12 September 2023 (EDT)
  
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And again with The Robots of Dawn {{P|654009|2018 1st print}}. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:13, 25 February 2023 (EST)
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: Sorry, only just noticed this.  The Gollancz imprint changes are fine by me.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 11:39, 26 September 2023 (EDT)
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::Many thanks - submitted. While I was there I put identical fixed images up (sorry, I forgot to ask you). When they come through, and as before, probably worth just checking the images are correct - even though they're the same as Amazon ;) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 00:56, 29 September 2023 (EDT)
  
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== Finney - The Body Snatchers ==
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== Analog, September-October 2023 ==
  
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Hi, letting you know I'm editing this {{P|836274|5th printing}}; adding publisher, cover finish and replacing the Amazon image. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 20:48, 29 March 2023 (EDT)
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I'm wondering if you added the e-version of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?972199 September-October 2023] issue of Analog.  I just got my print copy, and added it to this site.  If you got the e-version please feel free to pilfer what you need from my listing.  I did however correct the cover image.  I got the correct one from the Analog website. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 03:18, 26 September 2023 (EDT)
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: No worries.  BTW, feel free to make any "mundane" edits like this to PVs without having to notify me here.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 08:08, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Thanks for that. Get on to me if you find anything that doesn't fit with what you've got :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 08:15, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== The Midas Rain ==
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: Damn, I knew I still had the contents to do, but I didn't realize I hadn't even updated the cover - thanks for fixing that.  I've also got the corresponding Asimov's Sep/Oct ebook, which I'll clone and update from the physical pub that you added.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 10:15, 26 September 2023 (EDT)
  
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[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?946317 This one] got a facelift (if you see another £0.81 on a chapbook, ping me to see what US shows so we can sort it out). Thanks for adding it! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:16, 17 April 2023 (EDT)
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== Arboreality and The Ursula K. Le Guin Prize for Fiction ==
  
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: There's [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?922473 this one] from the same author/publisher from last year - although I see I went to the extent of checking the US details and adding them to the note, which I didn't do for this newer pub.  (I bought that earlier one, but as I still haven't read it, and it's stayed at the same price, I'd didn't feel any urgent need to buy this newer release.) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:43, 17 April 2023 (EDT)
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A quick question about [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5715175 this submission]. Did you mean to link the award record to the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3134918 CHAPBOOK title] or was it supposed to be linked to the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3134920 novella title]? On rare occasion, awards are given explicitly to CHAPBOOKs, e.g. to a notable standalone edition of a work of short fiction. However, 99% of the time short fiction awards are given to SHORTFICTION titles, so I suspect that it may have been a misclick. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:55, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
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:: It was $0.99 and I tend to like him so decided to just get it - then I came in to add it because I know I had not added it before and saw you beat me to it. :) I saw a couple with weird prices in the publisher list - so it is on my things to look at later - in the middle of a bit of Bulgarian publications fun - too many open tabs in one of the browsers so I can work on these so I am trying not to do much more outside of it. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:07, 17 April 2023 (EDT)
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: Hi, I strongly suspect that because this is an award that doesn't have categories based on title length, I wasn't paying enough attention when I added the awards to the titles.  I'll fix it now. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 18:00, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
  
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== A. K. Mulford  ==
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:: Thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 21:15, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
  
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I think we discussed [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?339363 this one] - as we only follow the exceptions when the author really really does not use dots and she obviously does, I just regularize the name while adding the 4th volume. The note explains that appearance in earlier books if someone is interested. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:52, 5 May 2023 (EDT)
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== Dune ==
  
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: Thanks - I had a guilty feeling about raising this and never properly resolving it, and her UK pubs keep getting highlighted in my tools as not being entered, as I'd been putting them off in the hope this would magically resolve itself :-)
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Concerning your PV'd 16th printing of {{p|823887|Dune}};  could you double-check 1) that the map is, indeed by Matt Griffin, and not by Dorothy deFontaine (see signature in lower left corner of the 2-page map), and 2) that the title of the 'Cartographic Notes' actually reads 'Cartographic Notes for map' (or not), as my (transiently verified) [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?976902 53rd printing] does (albeit different ISBN)? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 07:15, 30 October 2023 (EDT)
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:: Well, it did. Fixer found the book, I decided it is time to get the name sorted out while adding it. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 16:40, 5 May 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== K Y Craft ==
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: I'm afraid it looks like my copy is currently in a box in a storage locker, so it'll be a few days at best before I get chance to check it.  In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if I come across a copy in a shop before I go back to the locker, but either way, it's on my TODO list. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 08:04, 30 October 2023 (EDT)
  
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https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://borsini-burr.com/artists/kinuko-y-craft/; Archived pages may have info about that book you just worked on. Photo of Craft and her dog on the original page isn't the same as the photo of her and her dog on the current site; weird. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:21, 8 May 2023 (EDT)
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== Worldcon In Memoriam ==
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I've ported the Worldcon In Memoriam from Twitter to BlueSky, where it can be found at wcinmemoriam.bsky.social. [[User:Shsilver|Shsilver]] ([[User talk:Shsilver|talk]]) 11:40, 27 January 2024 (EST)
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: I tried at least half-a-dozen different archive.org captures of that page from 2022 and 2023, but all I can see is some generic biographical info.  Some of them do have a link to what seems like a page specifically to that page, but that in turn just seems to be a video which I've been unable to get to play, so I'm guessing it wasn't captured.  However, that did make me think to have a look on YouTube, in case the video was there.  There are a couple of vids, one of which has uncovered [https://www.amazon.com/Visions-Beauty-Luxury-Kinuko-Craft/dp/9078460008/ a somewhat barebones Amazon.com listing], which seems to have a legit ISBN, so that's something.  (Googling that ISBN doesn't throw up anything else that looks particularly useful though.) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 16:23, 8 May 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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== Finney - The Body Snatchers ==
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Thanks for the heads up - I must confess I'd not done that many of the obits lately, been busy with other stuff, as possibly you have too? :-( [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 14:36, 27 January 2024 (EST)
  
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Hello, I'm uploading a better cover image to our PV'd {{P|836274|5th printing}}. I'll post to the Moderator page to have the old one deleted. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 11:12, 22 May 2023 (EDT)
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== Awakening ==
  
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: No worries. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2023 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283172; LCCN ID links to a different book. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:54, 28 February 2024 (EST)
  
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== Watch out for the spaces ==
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: Thanks.  Fortunately I have that still on hand, and I can see I made a data entry error; the text on the copyright page says 90-91838, so I've updated the field.
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: However, the LCCN link now goes to an error page on catalog.loc.gov.  As I don't normally touch US books, I don't know what the problem is.  The copyright page does say "Library of Congress Catalog Card Number"; is that something different from "... Control No"?  [[Template:PublicationFields:ExternalIDs]] doesn't clarify matters.
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: I've now added that text to the pub notes, so in the worst case, the LCCN ID can be deleted, but naively I'd assume that what is on the copyright page should hopefully be correct? [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 14:20, 28 February 2024 (EST)
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:: Some of the older LCCNs never made it into the LOC site so it is not uncommon for a valid number not to show  there - and often they just added new numbers when digitizing instead of connecting the old numbers. Seems like that is what happened here. So I added the second number and updated the note with an explanation. Feel free to update the note. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:25, 29 February 2024 (EST)
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:::Shouldn't 90- LCCN now be removed from the ID field and the new one entered? Also, the first line of the notes looks like a leftover where there is a half-line about the translator and then the editor forgot to erase it when they named the translator later on in the note with a full sentence. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:37, 29 February 2024 (EST)
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:::: We can keep both in the field so that when you search by LCCN, the record comes up. The notes explain that the old one is not working online - but it still belongs to the book. I'll leave the PV decide what to do with translation note. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:15, 29 February 2024 (EST)
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::::: I've cleaned up the line in the note re. the translator.  Thanks both. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 14:35, 29 February 2024 (EST)
  
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K.A. Tucker should be [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?364295 K. A. Tucker] really OR you need to add a note explaining why the name does not follow our standard for abbreviated names. I fixed it on the author level. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 12:45, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
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== Journey Planet, Issues 68 & 70 ==
  
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: Nnnnnnggggghhhhh - this is actually one that I'd noticed, and added a rewrite rule to in my local config file of ~600 names that publishers/sites get wrong. However, the pages my tools generate, which I use to copypaste into the AddPub page still show me the original text from the sites, so that I can overrule or decide which of contradictory info to go with.  This is mostly a problem with publisher, pub date etc, that only crop up on AddPubs, and which I'm expecting, but as this particular case was a NewPub, I wasn't on my guard as much as I should be for the author field, and copypasted in the uncorrected name. I'll tweak my tools so that such discrepancies are more obvious visually, which will hopefully avoid a repeat.
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Greetings, just a reminder. The interviewee is always the canonical name, even if an alternate name appears in the title. See the help [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Interviews here]. There are a number of titles to correct n these two issues. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:36, 13 April 2024 (EDT)
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: Thanks for catching this one - did you see it in a cleanup report?  I don't see any relevant reports currently, but maybe there's one that is kept under tight control and doesn't currently have anything to report?
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: Thanks - I must confess I'd forgotten that (I don't normally touch interviews), but I see there's a cleanup report for this, so I'll sort it out.  Regards [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2024 (EDT)
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: BTW, I've noticed a few similar NewPubs lately, and in a couple of cases it looked like there were US pubs that Fixer presumably hasn't pushed through as yet.  [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3188257 This one comes to mind], which is [https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/nielsen/hardcoverfiction.html a somewhat high-profile release] ;-)  I don't recall the others off the top of my head, but LMK if you want a nudge if I come across more in the future.  [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] ([[User talk:ErsatzCulture|talk]]) 15:29, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
 
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:: Yep, we have a report for authors with dots in the names that do not follow the usual rules. We can ignore if needed but 99% of them are like this one. It may be moderator only as only moderators can change canonical names. They get caught sooner or later but I was just letting you know in case you can do something like what you just did (aka get the tools to help you).
 
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::: * [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?68576 Of Flesh & Bone trilogy] is a bit of a mess, where I've added the first 2 volumes that have UK tradpubs, but only the third has US self(?)pubs.  Not a surprise that Fixer missed those US pubs though.
 
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::: * [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?69851 Kimberly Lemming romcoms (?) are also a bit messy], although it looks like the UK is getting them a couple of months ahead of the US, so it's likely that Fixer will get there eventually.  I think some (all?) of these were originally selfpubs - 9798542143460/B09B359Y4M seems to be a 2021 pub of the first one, and [https://www.waterstones.com/book/mistlefoe/kimberly-lemming/9798788051680 there's also a chapbook] that doesn't seem to be getting a trad release.  But again, I don't expect selfpubs to come through reliably from Fixer.  I'll try to get some sort of entries for the selfpubs once I've got the UK tradpubs cleaned up.
 
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::: * [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3187643 Curse of Saints]: I see that it's a fair bit later in the US and you processed the Fixer submission for it a few days ago.  In a similar vein, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3186148 Grave Expectations] seems to be a September US release
 
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::: * [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3186281 Our Hideous Progeny] has US pubs, but it's unclear if it's truly speculative, which I've called out in the title note.  [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61067597-our-hideous-progeny GR link] for reference; "Fantasy" is one of the most commonly used shelves/tags, but I couldn't really get a handle from the user reviews what fantastical elements there might be.
 
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::: * It looks like Allan Kaster/Infinivox anthologies aren't being picked up by Fixer? I just added [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3189311 this year's Hard SF one], and it looks like MLB did [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3075349 last year's] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?844371 the year before].
 
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Archived talk

The Tenpercent Thief again

I've added another installment to our previous discussion here, if you want to chime in. Cheers. PeteYoung (talk) 14:54, 2 July 2023 (EDT)

GB not in US

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1791329; I saw your recent message about the list of British books not published in the U.S. and clicked one at random because the title sounded interesting, Satan's Daughter, and it turns out that I entered the U.S. edition from Pocket Books back in 2021. So there may be others that don't belong on that list. --Username (talk) 12:09, 4 July 2023 (EDT)

That the list stops at 2020 might give an indication of how "recent" it was generated ;-) I've not looked at that code or even re-run it for over 3 years - I vaguely recall there are niggly things with author and title variants that could cause false positives and/or negatives, and I didn't have the motivation to try and improve that. ErsatzCulture (talk) 12:15, 4 July 2023 (EDT)
I figured it might not be an updated list. Still useful, though. On the plus side, while looking into this I discovered a fairly recent eBay listing which showed the copyright page of the U.S. edition (January) so I made an edit for that. --Username (talk) 12:28, 4 July 2023 (EDT)

List prices from UK sources

If you get bored, you may want to see if you can find the list prices of these (there will be more - so check occasionally). Fixer is ending its reconciliations so quite a lot of UK books showed up on my current sweep through 2022. For some finding the list price is easier than it is for others. I plan to take another stab at these once I am done with the complete range but if you have nothing better to do or you can fill in from your scrapping, have fun :) Annie (talk) 19:20, 5 July 2023 (EDT)

I vaguely recognize a couple of them, but I don't generally submit anything more than 30 days out, so if you and Fixer beat me to it, my tools will mark them as done, and not pick up on any missing info.
(This is one of the downsides of Fixer picking up UK pubs early, and/or you creating them when the US one comes in - if I haven't already got some data for one of the other pubs like ebook or audio, I might never see it in my upcoming/TODO pages. There are a couple of ways I could fix that, but I've been too lazy to do anything about it as yet.)
That said, most of them I don't think I've got anything at all for currently, and I wouldn't have thought American Psycho or Beloved were eligible for inclusion :-) Will try to pick them up once I've got other stuff out the way - that Chinese anthology is still half-complete, but I've had enough of all that for today... ErsatzCulture (talk) 19:29, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
These are from 2022 (some were even added them but most were added today). Finding the prices on 2023 is a lot easier - the older ones get... harder. If I need you to look at something I added as future/new, I ping you specifically but for older ones - I may as well give you the search page. :) Annie (talk) 19:34, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
This one is an export edition, and whilst Blackwell's and to a lesser extent Amazon sometimes list them, I've never found a great source for those editions that's easy-to-scrape. I did write a scraper for an Australian site, but I've almost never used it, as it turned out they pretty much only ever listed the regular UK editions. Must confess I only looked at Australian and NZ sites, maybe some mainland Europe ones might be more amenable to sourcing info from? ErsatzCulture (talk) 19:39, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
Then add a note "International edition" and leave it as is for now. I will look at these again later - I usually can find international prices (usually via AU/NZ stores) :) Some of these may be hard to solve - so don't worry about them but quite a few I added today were just the regular paperbacks. Annie (talk) 19:41, 5 July 2023 (EDT)
PS: That one is solved :) Annie (talk) 19:54, 5 July 2023 (EDT)

Asimov - Foundation

Hello, any objections to me changing the imprint / publisher for our PV'd pub to HarperVoyager / HarperCollinsPublishers, per the copyright page? (see also here) Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 20:24, 24 July 2023 (EDT)

Hi, I am a bit wary of this change, but for slightly selfish reasons.
The UK records for Harper Voyager are a mess, with the following all being used:
- "Harper Voyager (UK)"
- "HarperVoyager"
- "HarperVoyager / HarperCollinsPublishers"
(This is from a list I manually maintain for the benefit of my own tools that do data analysis using the ISFDB backups; you can see that Gollancz, Orbit, Hodder and Tor/PanMac are much worse...)
About a year or two ago, I griped about this somewhere on the Wiki - I suspect it was either on my talk page, Annie's or Community Portal. (Will edit this response to link to it, if I can locate it.)
When I submit new books based on the data I've scraped from various places, I submit as "Harper Voyager (UK)", which on the one hand, I don't like doing, because it's inaccurate - the space between "Harper" and "Voyager" is only for the US imprint(s) - but it's the only one that clearly indicates it's a UK imprint, which I think is the most important thing that a casual visitor to the site might need/want to know.
(A minor point is that HV itself recently started sprouting child imprints - see "Magpie Books / Harper Voyager (UK)".)
None of this is your fault, or problem to solve, but if possible I'd like to use this as a brazen attempt to reopen the prior conversation, and try to get some consensus about what to use going forwards, even if cleaning up all the old-data isn't going to happen any time soon regardless.
If you make a change to the relevant pubs in the meantime, I won't revert or complain though ;-)
Cheers ErsatzCulture (talk) 13:06, 25 July 2023 (EDT)

The Pomegranate Gate

Ahem. Moved the note to where it belongs, cleared the links :) Annie (talk) 15:45, 27 July 2023 (EDT)

Does this make us even then? ;-) I was a bit surprised this seems to be a Solaris UK/Commonwealth only release, I couldn't find any evidence of a US pub. ErsatzCulture (talk) 15:49, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
EDIT: ah, I see you've just added a US pub for it, pretty sure I failed to find that when I looked. ErsatzCulture (talk) 15:51, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
Shrug - without enough details, it was unclear if it is the same one. So I left it alone until we know. Now we know and everyone is reunited. :)
PS: I was mostly pulling your leg. I was chasing down the edits to see if a moderator missed to advise a new editor on where these links go (happens a lot -- as you cannot add them when you add a first book for an author so we routinely see them on the title level from new editors) and realized it was deliberately added on that level. :) Annie (talk) 15:59, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
Gah, I have a vague recollection of recently noticing and fixing a note or link at the wrong level - title/pub probably. Will have to remember to be more careful, so that I don't get relegated to having to get someone else to approve my edits... ErsatzCulture (talk) 16:17, 27 July 2023 (EDT)
You really need to mess up a LOT more for that to happen so I would not worry. Me pulling your leg when I spot these on the other hand... that may happen ;) Annie (talk) 16:28, 27 July 2023 (EDT)

Miller - Dark Benediction

Hello, re your PV'd pub here, I'm importing the coverart title (per the paper edition) and replacing the Amazon image with an in-house one. Let me know if you're ok with that, thanks. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 00:22, 30 August 2023 (EDT)

No worries - feel free to update cover images on my PVs without contacting me, unless you think there might be some potential for differences, like the SFMW cover for Lathe of Heaven, which seems to variously have the K. or not in the author name. ErsatzCulture (talk) 16:33, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
Thanks:) I do pay a lot of attention to cover art, Gollancz, in particular, can't seem to resist making changes to their artwork - made easy, now it's all digital. Sometimes the differences are unnoticeable unless one switches between images. It might be a good idea to check your ebook - sfgateway.com show the ebook cover for Dark Benediction as having "JR" after Miller (and that's what I've submitted), whereas they show the tp as just plain Miller. Unusual. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 18:13, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
OK, I've just dug it out - the cover image credit is just "Walter M. Miller", no "JR". (The title page is indeed Walter M. Miller Jr., FWIW)
So the Amazon-sourced image currently on the pub page is wrong, as is the image on sfgateway.com - at least for the book as I downloaded it earlier this year. So it sounds like the image you uploaded is incorrect, if it has "JR"? If you want me to do a screengrab of the Kindle version, just let me know here to confirm.
(I should have known I was tempting fate with this one, as well as the Le Guins, I have a vague recollection of similar chaos on The Sirens of Titan wrt having Jr or not....) ErsatzCulture (talk) 18:39, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
No probs, leave it with me, I'll sort it - your cover has no "JR". Good that you checked! What I've started to add to my edits, where appropriate, is a heads-up to alert editors that there are variations of images. So if they're cloning (or whatever) they might be able to make better decisions. At least we can try... Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 19:15, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
And done. Btw, here's an amusing couple of images to compare - check out the "6th printing" link in the notes. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 20:23, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
Haha, I thought I was eagle-eyed about stuff like this ;-) TBH, ebook covers are a right PITA - given how they get changed at the whim of a publisher, how the image on Amazon/Kobo etc often doesn't match the actual ebook file, etc - that I don't pay them as much attention as I maybe should. Thanks for uploading a fixed copy. ErsatzCulture (talk) 10:04, 31 August 2023 (EDT)

July-August issue of Asimov's

Good catch on the e-version the July-August issue of Asimov's. I've been wanting to see somebody do e-versions of this magazine for some time now. Hope you keep up doing it. However, I just added the cover artist. MLB (talk) 04:10, 7 September 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. As for "Hope you keep up doing it.", TBH one of the reasons I bought it - and the corresponding issue of Analog - was that the current/imminent (?) changes to Amazon's services to magazines meant that I wasn't sure if these were one of the last ones that were available, so I thought I'd grab them whilst I could. Plus they were both weirdly cheap in the UK, compared to the USD price on Amazon.com - I suspect someone hasn't updated the exchange rate prices.
I was also pleasantly surprised that they were effectively both a PDF and an EPUB - I'd heard before complaints that they were effectively just PDFs of the print version, which are nigh on unreadable on a Kindle. ErsatzCulture (talk) 14:28, 7 September 2023 (EDT)

Masterworks II

Hi, more imprint / publisher stuff... :( I've read your careful notes for these three pubs; The Space Merchants, Swastika Night, More Than Human and I'm asking if you'd be ok with me adding Orion (i.e. to Gollancz / Orion). Thanks. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 20:47, 12 September 2023 (EDT)

Sorry, only just noticed this. The Gollancz imprint changes are fine by me. ErsatzCulture (talk) 11:39, 26 September 2023 (EDT)
Many thanks - submitted. While I was there I put identical fixed images up (sorry, I forgot to ask you). When they come through, and as before, probably worth just checking the images are correct - even though they're the same as Amazon ;) Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 00:56, 29 September 2023 (EDT)

Analog, September-October 2023

I'm wondering if you added the e-version of the September-October 2023 issue of Analog. I just got my print copy, and added it to this site. If you got the e-version please feel free to pilfer what you need from my listing. I did however correct the cover image. I got the correct one from the Analog website. MLB (talk) 03:18, 26 September 2023 (EDT)

Damn, I knew I still had the contents to do, but I didn't realize I hadn't even updated the cover - thanks for fixing that. I've also got the corresponding Asimov's Sep/Oct ebook, which I'll clone and update from the physical pub that you added. ErsatzCulture (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2023 (EDT)

Arboreality and The Ursula K. Le Guin Prize for Fiction

A quick question about this submission. Did you mean to link the award record to the CHAPBOOK title or was it supposed to be linked to the novella title? On rare occasion, awards are given explicitly to CHAPBOOKs, e.g. to a notable standalone edition of a work of short fiction. However, 99% of the time short fiction awards are given to SHORTFICTION titles, so I suspect that it may have been a misclick. TIA! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:55, 17 October 2023 (EDT)

Hi, I strongly suspect that because this is an award that doesn't have categories based on title length, I wasn't paying enough attention when I added the awards to the titles. I'll fix it now. ErsatzCulture (talk) 18:00, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
Thanks! Ahasuerus (talk) 21:15, 17 October 2023 (EDT)

Dune

Concerning your PV'd 16th printing of Dune; could you double-check 1) that the map is, indeed by Matt Griffin, and not by Dorothy deFontaine (see signature in lower left corner of the 2-page map), and 2) that the title of the 'Cartographic Notes' actually reads 'Cartographic Notes for map' (or not), as my (transiently verified) 53rd printing does (albeit different ISBN)? Thanks! MagicUnk (talk) 07:15, 30 October 2023 (EDT)

I'm afraid it looks like my copy is currently in a box in a storage locker, so it'll be a few days at best before I get chance to check it. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if I come across a copy in a shop before I go back to the locker, but either way, it's on my TODO list. ErsatzCulture (talk) 08:04, 30 October 2023 (EDT)

Worldcon In Memoriam

I've ported the Worldcon In Memoriam from Twitter to BlueSky, where it can be found at wcinmemoriam.bsky.social. Shsilver (talk) 11:40, 27 January 2024 (EST)

Thanks for the heads up - I must confess I'd not done that many of the obits lately, been busy with other stuff, as possibly you have too? :-( ErsatzCulture (talk) 14:36, 27 January 2024 (EST)

Awakening

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283172; LCCN ID links to a different book. --Username (talk) 12:54, 28 February 2024 (EST)

Thanks. Fortunately I have that still on hand, and I can see I made a data entry error; the text on the copyright page says 90-91838, so I've updated the field.
However, the LCCN link now goes to an error page on catalog.loc.gov. As I don't normally touch US books, I don't know what the problem is. The copyright page does say "Library of Congress Catalog Card Number"; is that something different from "... Control No"? Template:PublicationFields:ExternalIDs doesn't clarify matters.
I've now added that text to the pub notes, so in the worst case, the LCCN ID can be deleted, but naively I'd assume that what is on the copyright page should hopefully be correct? ErsatzCulture (talk) 14:20, 28 February 2024 (EST)
Some of the older LCCNs never made it into the LOC site so it is not uncommon for a valid number not to show there - and often they just added new numbers when digitizing instead of connecting the old numbers. Seems like that is what happened here. So I added the second number and updated the note with an explanation. Feel free to update the note. Annie (talk) 13:25, 29 February 2024 (EST)
Shouldn't 90- LCCN now be removed from the ID field and the new one entered? Also, the first line of the notes looks like a leftover where there is a half-line about the translator and then the editor forgot to erase it when they named the translator later on in the note with a full sentence. --Username (talk) 13:37, 29 February 2024 (EST)
We can keep both in the field so that when you search by LCCN, the record comes up. The notes explain that the old one is not working online - but it still belongs to the book. I'll leave the PV decide what to do with translation note. Annie (talk) 14:15, 29 February 2024 (EST)
I've cleaned up the line in the note re. the translator. Thanks both. ErsatzCulture (talk) 14:35, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Journey Planet, Issues 68 & 70

Greetings, just a reminder. The interviewee is always the canonical name, even if an alternate name appears in the title. See the help here. There are a number of titles to correct n these two issues. Thanks, John Scifibones 08:36, 13 April 2024 (EDT)

Thanks - I must confess I'd forgotten that (I don't normally touch interviews), but I see there's a cleanup report for this, so I'll sort it out. Regards ErsatzCulture (talk) 12:54, 13 April 2024 (EDT)
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