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Fleuve Noir - Anticipation

I have started going through the Anticipation series. As for RF and Univers, I'll be occasionally uploading new cover scans and adding notes to some of the pubs you have already verified. I'll also normalize the price indications : for instance, I found the same price indicated as Fr.240, Fr 240, F240.00 [sic], F240, etc. I think F240 is the simplest.
I'll just indicate the numbers below, not to occupy too much space. Linguist 10:06, 27 September 2014 (UTC).

Normalized the prices of : 61, 341, 62, 68 Linguist 09:48, 14 October 2014 (UTC).
Corrected the typo in the title of La planète des cristophons (not Christophons). Linguist 11:04, 29 October 2014 (UTC).
Changed 437 Base Djéos to Base Djeos (no accent anywhere). Linguist 09:41, 8 November 2014 (UTC).
Changed capital P to lower case in Les Psycors de Pââl Zuick (not a proper name). Linguist 09:25, 12 November 2014 (UTC).
Added missing page count for Adieu, Céred, + note about absence of comma on fc and spine. Linguist 14:10, 15 November 2014 (UTC).
Added note to Les déracinés d'Humania (last interior art by G. de Sainte-Croix).
Corrected typo in page number entry (2233 for 233) in La septième saison. Linguist 10:57, 23 November 2014 (UTC).
Suppressed the space between 1973 and the elipsis in 1973… et la suite.

[unindent] Typo in title of Les disques de Biem-Kara : Biem, not Bien. Linguist 10:21, 4 December 2014 (UTC).

You had indicated no DL for Le bagne d'Edenia, and the printing date was incorrect. I assumed the last pages were missing in your copy, and updated the data. Thanks. Linguist 10:57, 16 December 2014 (UTC).
Corrected typo in printing date (10-02 for 02-10) in Échec à la raison (+ acute accent in title). Linguist 10:23, 17 December 2014 (UTC).
Added missing elipsis in Et la nuit garda son secret…. Thanks. Linguist 10:44, 17 December 2014 (UTC).
I've got ”27 mars 1975” as a printing date for La nymphe de l'espace. You put “1975-03-15”. Is that a typo or a different date ? Thanks. Linguist 10:58, 17 December 2014 (UTC).
My mistake. Hauck 16:10, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm afraid you wrote “23” instead of “27” !! I'll correct it as I update the notes. Thanks. Linguist 16:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Décidement ! Hauck 16:31, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Added missing acute accent in Le salut de l'empire Shékara. Thanks. Linguist 10:01, 18 December 2014 (UTC).
DL was 3rd (not 4th) trimester 1975 for La Vénus de l'Himmenadrock, out of sequence. Linguist 10:23, 18 December 2014 (UTC).

[unindent] Typo in title of Vae victis ! (victis is not a proper name). Linguist 10:31, 22 December 2014 (UTC).

Typo in title of Énigme aux confins : acute accent. Thanks. Linguist 11:13, 23 December 2014 (UTC).
Typo in title of Les Tziganes du Triangle austral : two proper names, therefore two capitals. Linguist 11:08, 24 December 2014 (UTC).
Missing day and month in Les esclaves de Thô (fixed). Linguist 10:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC).
Added missing DL in Le piège de lumière. Thanks. Linguist 10:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC).
Added note about cover art of Rhésus Y-2, identical with this one, also unidentified so far. Linguist 11:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC).
Added note about missing author's name on spine of Dormir ? Rêver peut-être…. Linguist 11:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC).
Another note signaling whole wraparound on Michel Jeury's Les îles de la lune. Linguist 11:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC).
Restored full elipsis (…) in title of Et les hommes voulurent mourir…, and added note about it : 3 periods on title page and page tops, 2 on half title page, none elsewhere. Linguist 10:13, 18 January 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to Les intemporels about temporary appearance of Air France advert on bc, and ISBN moving from bc to copyright page. Linguist 13:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC).

[unindent] Same note (Air France) added to Chez Temporel. Linguist 14:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC).

Ditto for Dérapages. Linguist 14:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC).
As there are ads on most of the titles from the point where you are now, it will be a loooong list. Hauck 14:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Only a handful at this point. They come in dribs and drabs. Linguist 11:05, 22 January 2015 (UTC).
Added mention of Virgo signature on Le secret des pierres radieuses, Capitaine Pluton. Linguist 11:05, 22 January 2015 (UTC).
Added missing day of month and some notes to Un Drahl va naître. Linguist 14:32, 22 January 2015 (UTC).
Air France advert on Les dieux maudits d'Alphéa. Yes, I know… But there aren't that many… Linguist 20:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC).
Idem for Le réveil des dieux. Linguist 20:08, 23 January 2015 (UTC).
Visible signature (A in triangle) + wraparound for Pas de passeport pour Anésia. Linguist 20:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC).
Removed undue capitals in Les non-humains (confirmed by later list of books) and added missing date (day and month). Linguist 20:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC).

[unindent] Visible Virgo signature on Les hommes processeurs. Linguist 20:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC).

Expanded note about * symbol on cover of Titcht. Linguist 20:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC).
Added missing DL in Le règne d'Astakla (+ Air France !). Linguist 13:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC).
Corrected typo in notes and added some to Les otages des glaces. Linguist 14:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to L'an II de la mafia, La planète du jugement and Shea. Linguist 11:04, 25 January 2015 (UTC).
Added some notes to Prométhée and Tu vivras, Céréluna. Linguist 10:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC).
Added missing DL to L'ère des bionites. Linguist 11:39, 26 January 2015 (UTC).
Restored missing acute accent in L'empereur d'Éridan. Linguist 10:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC).
Les charognards de S’nien was verified by you, but the data was missing. Linguist 20:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC).
I've vacated the PV1 spot for this one as I don't have it. Hauck 14:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC).
OK, I'll slip into it while it's still warm… Thanks. Linguist 15:18, 28 January 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to Les jardins de Xantha, Les tours divines. Linguist 10:34, 28 January 2015 (UTC).

[unindend] Corrected page count of Avant les déluges : 187 instead of 185; added some notes. Linguist 11:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC).

Added notes to La grande prêtresse de Yashtar. Linguist 11:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to Génération Satan No better cover, though. Linguist 10:58, 30 January 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to Ticket aller-retour pour l'hyperespace. Linguist 11:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to Osmose and Le syndrome Karelmann. Linguist 10:19, 2 February 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to Les mondes furieux. Linguist 10:46, 3 February 2015 (UTC).
Just got my hand on 2 or 3 more. Added notes to Le rêve du papillon chinois. Linguist 15:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC).

Author's Note (A Scanner Darkly)

Hello, Hervé! Is this essay also part of the French editions of A Scanner Darkly, for example in this? Christian Stonecreek 06:56, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Hauck 11:26, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for adding it! Christian Stonecreek 12:58, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Naufragés de la Lune by Clarke

Please confirm the page count of this publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Corrected.Hauck 12:16, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Farthing

Can you confirm that the date of publication of this record is correct? Another user says that September 2007 is the stated date. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:32, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I confirm sept 2007.Hauck 20:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I've accepted the submission to change the date. Mhhutchins 21:07, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Fiction issues

My Fleuve Noir - Anticipation collection comes brutally to an end, for past personal reasons. I'll be going through the rest of my Fiction issues, which I have very few of, and mainly update cover scans and add notes when necessary. Thanks. Linguist 10:54, 4 February 2015 (UTC).

Added notes and redid cover of : n° 22, 24, 46, 53, 57. Linguist 12:51, 4 February 2015 (UTC).
Ditto for : 59, 61, 77, 80, 85. Linguist 14:56, 5 February 2015 (UTC).
And again for : 86, 87, 90, 91, 93, 94. Linguist 11:26, 6 February 2015 (UTC).

Alan or Allan Pollack

Can you confirm that "Allan" is credited for the cover art in this publication? (Most credits in the ISFDB are for "Alan".) If it's "Allan" please make a variant to the canonical name. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

No, it's "Alan", corrected. Hauck 18:29, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Futures Past - magazine or nonfiction?

You may have entered this because there is a review of it in Analog? It is the intention of the publisher to produce issues quarterly and perhaps bi-monthly. It is better to make a decision about the classification sooner rather than later. Unless it was your intent, I am planning on entering the data for this pub and my opinion is that magazine is a more appropriate category.--swfritter 00:53, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Please proceed as you see fit.Hauck 07:04, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks.--swfritter 22:22, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Lucien Lepiez cover art

One look at Lucien Lepiez' signature reminded me of the one on the cover of Lem's Feu Vénus : don't you think it's the same one ? I do, anyway… Linguist 10:47, 6 February 2015 (UTC).

You're likely to be right, I've made the changes. Hauck 14:39, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Galaxie issues

Same process for the very few Galaxie issues I own (about twenty-five, I think) : I'll touch up the price (no decimals in anciens francs), add the missing ones (Belgium, Switzerland) and upload a new cover scan if necessary. Thanks. Linguist 10:40, 7 February 2015 (UTC).

Added notes to and redid covers of n° : 41, 57, 64 (1st series). Linguist 10:40, 7 February 2015 (UTC).
I'll mainly redo the covers of the new series when necessary. Thanks. Linguist 11:34, 7 February 2015 (UTC).
Added a note to n° 9, 11. Linguist 11:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC).
Added a note to n° 17, 20, 21, 28, 32. Linguist 10:22, 8 February 2015 (UTC).
Added note to n° 33, 35, 41, 52, 55. Linguist 10:15, 9 February 2015 (UTC).
Added note to n° 57, 60, 62, 66, 77. Linguist, 09:52, 10 February 2015 (UTC).

Cover artist for Extro Science Fiction, February-March 1982

Hello, Hervé! Is there any evidence that the cover art 'MS' for this issue could be Mark Slattery, who did also one interior piece of art for the same issue? Christian Stonecreek 03:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I'd say no, the signatures are quite different "M S" on cover, a vague scribble on page 12. Hauck 10:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for looking this up, anyway! Christian Stonecreek 11:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Langford's The Complete Critical Assembly

Hervé, I'd like to add individual essay contents to your verified The Complete Critical Assembly. Many of the essays have appeared individually in SF Commentary (#68 – #73/74/75) and elsewhere, and several will need to be varianted with different titles. I'm happy to do the work. PeteYoung 11:38, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem with me, go on. Hauck 13:17, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Done now. You can see the amount of varianting that had to be done at the Critical Mass/Critical Hits series page. I've also added some information to the pub's Note.
The publisher as stated on the copyright page is "Cosmos Books, an imprint of Wildside Press" as opposed to just "Cosmos Books"; there's also a bibliographic note for Cosmos Books that indicates all pubs after 2000 should be credited to "Cosmos Books / Wildside Press" – just lettin' ya know. Thanks. PeteYoung 13:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I've felt it necessary to create a separate column series for the Critical Mass essays that Langford did for Odyssey – these were not part of the earlier series and were generally longer. I'd also like to make a series for Charles Stross's 'Blue Sky Science' short series of 3 essays – 2 issues they appeared in are verified by you. Thanks. PeteYoung 20:56, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Notes to SFM

Added a note to Science-Fiction Magazine n° 2 and n° 4 (other prices). Thanks. Linguist 10:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC).

Refurbished notes to our verified n° 5, and added some. Linguist 10:20, 11 February 2015 (UTC).

Trouver son cœur et tuer la bête

Changed oe to œ in the title of “Trouver son cœur et tuer la bête” and related records (interior art). Thanks. Linguist 09:45, 13 February 2015 (UTC).

Sunbeam Caress

I've been working on Virgil Finlay art books, and would like to match the illustrations to the originals. You verified If, March 1968, where the story "Sunbeam Caress" was illustrated by Finlay. Could you please tell me which illustrations for that story show (a) The head and wing of a bat with shadowy figures in the background, (b) sharp forms amid clouds, and (c) a nude woman surrounded by glowing circles and a geodesic form? Bob 23:33, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) is page 6-7,(c) is page 40, for (b) my copy lacks the last two pages of the story.Hauck 08:00, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, I really appreciate your effort on this. Bob 21:05, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

A Ticket to Zenner

In If, July 1967, the story "A Ticket to Zenner" was illustrated by Finlay. Would you please tell me which illustrations show (a) an exploding space ship, and (b) a ducking man over a series of steps or stacked boxes? Bob 23:44, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) is on page 63, (b) is on page 87, there another one on page 79 of a man holding a carabine and with his head figuratively "exploding". Hauck 07:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you again! Bob 21:05, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Waterspider

In If, January 1964 Finlay illustrated the story "Waterspider". Is there only one illustration for that story? The one in the book shows a bunch of creatures coming up a stair, rocket ships in the background. Bob 00:34, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

It's the one on page 101. The other one (page 111) depicts a guy facing (he's seen from the back and wears a black suit) a bald woman on a kind of sofa. Hauck 07:51, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
And again, thank you for taking the trouble to look this up. Bob 21:06, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Les yeux géants

Added some notes to Les yeux géants and replaced the cover scan. Thanks. Linguist 16:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC).

"In the Land of Unblind", by Judith Merril

While verifying a book of mine that contained "In the Land of Unblind", I noticed that it was a poem, and not the "Short Fiction" that we currently have it listed as. I checked it with another book I have that contains that title, and verified that it was a poem there as well. An essay in Galactic Central refers to it as a poem, and Judith Merril's daughter lists it as a poem in her bibliography of Merril's work. So unless someone knows a reason otherwise, I'll be changing that work to a poem in a couple of days. Since this affects a content item in 7 different verified publications, including one of yours, I am asking those verifiers to post any comments about this change on my talk page Chavey 07:31, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Duplicate SHORTFICTION titles

When you get a chance, could you look at the two remaining titles on this list? I've cleared about a few other INTERIORART titles that were obviously mistakenly entered as SHORTFICTION, but I'm uncertain about these. Thanks. Mhhutchins 07:51, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

For Fiction #39 there are indeed two consecutive texts with the same title. For Galaxie, it's corrected. Hauck 16:09, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
I knew there was a possibility that there could be two individual works with the same title by different authors. Other than the two items I left on the list, it was obvious that the others should have been entered as INTERIORART when the two works appeared on the same page and one of the "authors" had no fiction credits, but only art credits on their summary pages. Those I went ahead and corrected. Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:23, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

The Days of Glory

Hi, I found your cover artist, it is John Berkey.--Dirk P Broer 12:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I added the price and added to the notes too.--Dirk P Broer 12:49, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Hauck 16:13, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Starburst

Hi, I imported content and added page numbers for our copy of Starburst by Alfred Bester.--Dirk P Broer 13:42, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Hauck 16:31, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


The Best of Henry Kuttner - Cover artist

Hi, I found the cover artist for The Best of Henry Kuttner. It is Dean Ellis.--Dirk P Broer 07:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

The cover credit seems to have been changed in the meantime. Can you join this discussion? Thanks, --Willem 08:39, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Possible duplicate ISBNs

This clean-up report found three pairs of publications having duplicate ISBNs, several of which you have primary verified. Alas, there seems to be a pattern of duplicate ISBNs from this publisher in the past. Can you confirm that the ISBNs actually are recorded correctly and if so, perhaps note that in each publication record to avoid future inquiries because of the duplication? Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

There will probably be a few more. Hauck 18:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Dany or Danny de Laet

Hi Herve, could you check the spelling of the co-author of Lectures fantastiques in Fiction, #299? I think it's likely his true name is Danny de Laet. Thanks for checking, --Willem 20:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I confirm "Dany de Laet" (it appears in full twice). As his text is about belgian publications, it's likely the same person but there is no evidence. Hauck 16:25, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Un saint au néon

Hello. Concerning Jean-Louis Curtis' Un saint au néon, I am wondering about its present pub type, which is NOVEL. The inside formatting and the warning at the beginning of the book (it is suggested that the stories should be read in a certain order) both imply that this is indeed a collection of five loosely connected stories more than a novel. I have just submitted this edit and respected the pub type, but I would be in favour of changing it to COLLECTION and adding five SHORTFICTION titles to the content — which also means changing all the related records, none of which are verified. Would there be a particular reason why this pub should remain a NOVEL ? TIA, Linguist 16:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC).

No problem with me, _Le Rayon SF_ for example agrees with you. Hauck 16:28, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll be updating the lot shortly. Linguist 16:37, 21 February 2015 (UTC).

Gassinot or Sassinot or both

Can you confirm the cover art credits of Fiction #138 and Fiction #152? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed. The correct name is very likely Sassinot. Hauck 09:14, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

"Olivieri" or "Oliviero"

Can you confirm the cover art credit given in this record? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:15, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed. Hauck 18:58, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Acute or not acute…

Hello. Do you confirm the spelling cimétière in this title ? Looks like a typo to me, to be merged with this one, but you néver knôw… Linguist 21:17, 22 February 2015 (UTC).

Decimals

Removed decimals from Opération Espace and Panique dans le vide. Thanks. Linguist 16:45, 23 February 2015 (UTC).

A few more FN - Anticipation

Added some notes to Le cerveau de Silstar, and replaced the cover scan. Thanks. Linguist 21:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC).

Added notes to Les ides de Mars and interior art credit to De Sainte-Croix (style identical with other interior art in the white series, credited to him). Redid cover. Linguist 10:18, 24 February 2015 (UTC).
Added notes to La trève du sacre and La seconde vie, uploaded better cover scans. Linguist 10:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC).
Ditto with La planète aux diamants, Sogol. Linguist 10:35, 25 February 2015 (UTC).

Graphic versions of FN - Anticipation books

Hello. There is nothing so far on the help page corresponding to the new graphic option, and I was wondering if you had any advice in store about the comic book versions of FN - Anticipation books published by Artima / Comics Pocket in the ’70s (e.g., Vargo Statten's À travers les âges, 1975, 228 p., digest size, from the 1954 FN pub) : can they be considered as “graphic novels” that could be harboured in this db ? This exchange on the Community Portal wasn't all that clear about the matter. TIA, Linguist 14:55, 24 February 2015 (UTC).

In my interpretation, it's probably OK for "direct" adaptations of FNAs ("This miglht include for example, a graphic novel adaptation of Isaac Asimov's "Nightfall" by an ineligible author and artist.") but I'm personaly against too much dispersion. We're (IMHO) already too widely spread with paléo-SF, poems, science articles, borderline thrillers, non-genre novels and every book or text that has the smallest hint of a ghost or other vaguely supernatural beast. But I'm mostly a SF-integrist (I even believed that the SF in ISFDB was was for Science Fiction). Hauck 15:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I might risk submitting the handful I've got. I suppose your position would be the same about Forest's Barbarella ? Linguist 16:29, 24 February 2015 (UTC).
Yes, if we go this way, we could add all the SF albums by artists that are already in the DB (from Moebius to Druillet by way of Clerc, Sire etc...). Hauck 16:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
For clarification: a graphic novel's eligibility is identical to that of a non-genre novel. It must be written by an author who is "above-the-threshold", i.e. someone who a) has a reputation within the sf field, or b) is considered by most of the literary world to be an sf author. For example, Anthony Burgess, whose output is mostly non-genre, falls into the first category. Isaac Asimov falls into the second category, so his non-genre mystery novels are included in the database.
Eligibility for graphic novels would not include an adaptation by a "below-the-threshold" author of a work by a well-known sf author. If John Q. Nobody adapts a story by Bigname S. F. Author into a graphic novel, that work would not be eligible. If Bigname S. F. Author adapts a story by John Q. Nobody (or anyone else's including his own), it would be eligible for the database. Mhhutchins 17:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
In fact, I strictly don't give a damn about matters of "eligibility" and all the sterile debates that go with remarkably precise terms like "over-the-threshold" or "reputation" or "most of the literary world". It's not that it's uninteresting per se but my ISFDB time is (IMHO) better used on other projects. Basically, I think that only SF (thus fiction) written works should be accepted (and works ON sf). I just won't enter other works and won't moderate them even if I'm also a collector of "bande dessinée". We're far from simply hoping to reach such level of detail even if Mézières can easily pass all the tests evoked above. We are going to have lots of fun deciding if Gauckler's adaptation of Houssin's _Blue_ here and its sequel there should be entered. Hauck 18:05, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
You may not realize it, but we share the same basic sentiment about what should be in the db. I don't think the db should have allowed any non-genre works, including graphic novels, etc. In fact, any nonfiction work that isn't about speculative fiction wouldn't be in the database if I had my way. That includes the thousands of science and ur-science books already in the db, and the thousands of non-genre novels by science fiction writers. Unfortunately, neither you nor I can "have our way" about what is eligible for the database. Once it's decided by the group, we had no choice but to go along with it. So if you don't want to moderate non-sf submissions, that's fine. But on the same hand you should restrain from giving advice to other editors when questions about non-sf books are presented to you. Mhhutchins 22:35, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
It's simple politness and in this case the advice given was conform to the group decision. Hauck 07:37, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Right. In order to put a lid on this can of worms (how can you put a lid on a can ? Well, that's SF for you — or is it fantasy ?) I unintentionally punched open, I'll abstain from submitting the Artima pubs, the art of which is not even credited (talk about being Nobody…). If Barbarella and Valérian are officially OK, though, I'll try my luck one of these days… Thanks again, Linguist 10:20, 25 February 2015 (UTC).

The Silence of the Langford - John D. Rickert vs. John D. Rickett as cover artist

Hi, I see you have entered/verified this book with John D. Rickert as cover artist. According to me -and not only me it should be John D. Rickett.--Dirk P Broer 00:28, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it should. Hauck 11:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Bring Back Yesterday

The notes for [this] seem to indicate there's only one price. I have a copy that's dual priced, still has the "distributed in the US by ..." on the copyright page but is completely printed in the UK. Just want to make sure before creating another record. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

It's dual priced. Hauck 20:57, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Frédéric Kursawa and Frédéric Kurzawa

Can you determine if the credits for these authors are correct and whether varianting is required? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:47, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

credit as entered. Very likely the same person but no proof.Hauck 20:50, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
What kind of proof do you need to create a pseudonym and variant titles for such an obvious typographical error? What's the likelihood that they're not the same person? I'd put it somewhere in the one in 8 billion range. Mhhutchins 00:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
If you already have the answers by a statistical way, why do you ask? I DO NOT create pseudonyms as easily as this. If "it's obvious" is your bibliographical approach, do as you please and don't bother me with your sententious and mock-scientific (your brillant demonstration forgets the accented letters) verbiage.Hauck 07:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for granting permission to variant your primary verified records and create a pseudonym. As always, pleasure doing business with you. Mhhutchins 23:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Feelings shared. Hauck 10:55, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Shoggoths in Bloom collection by Elizabeth Bear

I've made some very minor additions to the Notes for Shoggoths in Bloom, noting source for cover artist/designer and mistake in page number for Acknowledgements in Table of Contents. Also added story lengths for "The Ladies," "Confessor," and "The Death of Terrestrial Radio." BungalowBarbara 23:30, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Jackson T. Farrell vs James T. Farrell

Hi, can you undo my edit of the Jackson T. Farrell entry? I received a mail from John Clute pointing out that I had mixed-up Jackson T. Farrell with James T. Farrell -though John Clute could not rule out that a pseunonym is used here. Jackson T. Farrell is a person with one 1978 novel on his name, James T. Farrell a well-known author, publishing his last work in 1978. It is not enough to say 'this is the same man'. The dates of birth and death are close to each other, but not close enough. By sheer coincidence (?) you are in possession of the sole Jackson T. Farrell title 'The Flight of the Endeavor', so you might have a small 'about the author' to establish any relation -if any- between the two T. Farrell's.--Dirk P Broer 20:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Alas, there is strictly no data on the author, copyright is to Manor Books. Hauck 15:07, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Do you have a 'reverse' function, or do you want me to update the record with the old values?--Dirk P Broer 00:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
I prefer the latter. Hauck 07:17, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Rosny anthology

Added whole content and some notes to Récits de science-fiction. Reduced cover scan to standard size. I suppose it's all right to import these contents into the 1975 edition ? Linguist 20:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC).

No problem with me. Hauck 10:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

The Goblin Tower

Can you add anything to [this?] --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Et le monde faillit changer…

Expanded the notes of your verified, suppressed the decimals in anciens francs, and re-dit the cover scan. Thanks. Linguist 21:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC).

Le retour des Guzreh

Same thing this this one (minus the price). Linguist 21:11, 8 March 2015 (UTC).

"Klein" or "Klei"

Can you confirm the art credit given on page 4 of this issue? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Artist confirmed as entered per signature "Klein". A statistical analysis indicates that there's a 99.99994257% probability that it's Daniel Klein. Change made. Hauck 06:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

George M. or George H. Krauter

Can you confirm the credit for the art on page 84 of this issue of Analog? The artist is more commonly credited as George H. Krauter. Also, it's strange that the art appears two pages before the start of the story. That happens several times throughout the record. Thanks for checking. (I know you weren't the first primary verifier, but the first one isn't very active.) Mhhutchins 18:12, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Artist is effectively credited as "George M. Krauter" on page 84 even if the signature really reads "George H. Krauter". Artwork is on pages 84 & 85 (title on page 84) and the story proper starts on page 86. Page numbers corrected. Hauck 18:26, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Analog May 2005

Can you check your Analog issue May 2005 , I have a different illustrator on page 111 Josh Mathus.Wjmvanruth 14:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Nice catch, corrected. Hauck 14:53, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Coxxi / Goxxi

Hello. Wouldn't there be a typo here ? This title usually has Coxxi. Linguist 21:49, 22 March 2015 (UTC).

No, see notes. Hauck 15:50, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Overlapping series

About the Maurice Limat books : I was going to number the Coqdor titles, but stopped when I realized that this series overlapped the Robin Muscat one : at least two (Le flambeau du monde and Le treizième signe du zodiaque have both characters in common, whereas Fréquence "ZZ" doesn't, for instance. Is there a way to solve the numbering problem ? I can't see any obvious solution. Besides, could Muscat share a “Coqdor / Muscat universe”, rather than be made a subseries of the Coqdor one ? Linguist 22:08, 22 March 2015 (UTC).

I'm generally against all this detailed series business (especially when seeing the maintenance costs associated with a numbering that can change with time). So your ideas on the subject are probably better then mine. Please proceed as you see fit, in this case a metaseries ("The Limatverse" ?) is perhaps the adequate solution. Hauck 14:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I'll see what I can do… Linguist 21:22, 23 March 2015 (UTC).

Lloyd Biggle Junior -> Lloyd Biggle, Jr.

The four publications credited to Lloyd Biggle Junior, according to the ISFDB help page (under the "Ranks, suffixes, prefixes" subsection.) "should be regularized if they are not presented this way in the publication." That is as Lloyd Biggle, Jr.. Mhhutchins 06:07, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Done. Hauck 14:39, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

"The Wounded Land", by Stephen R. Donaldson

I added a cover artist to your verified publication, based on the artist attribution for this equivalent cover. Since that verifier is a less experienced one, I also verified this attribution via an Abebooks dealer Chavey 17:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

L'envers du masque cover scan

Uploaded a new cover scan of L'envers du masque, FN Super luxe edition. Thanks. Linguist 21:32, 27 March 2015 (UTC).

Empire of Light

I updated the number of pages there was a mistake there, see this record [1] thank you.Wjmvanruth 17:44, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Sub approved, thanks. Hauck 17:55, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Agence tous crimes

Uploaded new cover scan of your verified, and added OCLC # in the notes. Thanks. Linguist 12:59, 31 March 2015 (UTC).

Edhasa vs. E.D.H.A.S.A.

In some recent PubUpdates, to regularize a publication series that had both versions of this publisher, Linguist noted that the publisher name "edhasa" is an acronym for E.D.H.A.S.A., "Editora y Distribuidora Hispano Americana, S.A.". I wonder if these two variants of the publisher should be merged? You are the only editor with a verified publication under "Edhasa", so it would be natural to leave that decision to you. (By the way, it looks like that book's publication series name may be misspelled.) There is a wide year gap between the publications listed under these two names, and sometimes a publisher rebrands how they present themselves, so it isn't obvious. Their web page shows "edhasa" prominently at the top, and the full name at the bottom of the page. Chavey 13:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

There's only "edhasa" (small caps) everywhere in the book. Even if I know that EDHASA is an acronym, I'm not in favor of the "E.D.H.A.S.A." spelling, because 1) it's quite ugly to the eye (and quite complicated to enter) and 2) as is frequently the case, it seems that edhasa became the "standard" name of the company (exactly like Seat to stay in Spain). Hauck 16:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
That's kind of my opinion as well, but I wanted to make sure. I'll add notes to the two listed publishers connecting them to each other, and suggesting that they be left as is. Chavey 19:35, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Dreamweaver's Dilemma by Lois McMaster Bujold discussion

Please come participate over here so we can keep all the discussion in one place. Thanks! Nihonjoe 21:53, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Greffe mortelle

Added OCLC number to the notes of your verified and uploaded a larger cover scan. Thanks. Linguist 09:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC).

"Locating Science Fiction", by Andrew Milner

I added a price to your verified publication from the publisher's web site. Chavey 05:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

And similarly for Singularities: Technoculture, Transhumanism, and Science Fiction in the Twenty-first Century, by Joshua Raulerson. Chavey 05:22, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Nice but, as I understand the help page, it's not the "cover price". IMHO the field should be left blank but anyway you should add the source of the supposed price in the notes as I took the pain to precise "no price on book" which may seem quite incoherent after your modifications.Hauck 08:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure why you say it's not the cover price. When I was doing a bunch of data entry for this series, I spot compared what Liverpool said on their web site with what Amazon said, and they always agreed on that price. I also did some Wayback Machine searches, and the listed prices had not changed from the very initial postings. I checked these two titles on Amazon.uk, and both of them agreed with Liverpool about the base cover price. But you were certainly right that I should have annotated where I got those prices from, so I added that to both pubs. Chavey 18:11, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Not being a native english speaker, I naively thought that "cover price" meant the price ON the cover, not an ultimately variable price given on a site which will change (a perfect example being the Gannon where someone -I suppose that it was you- inserted annotations and price of £50 that alas no more match the reality of a £55 price) a problem that I want to avoid by blanking the price field. But I was probably mistaken. We're left with the basic question of what to enter in the price field : the price that is physically ON the book, the price that someone paid for the book at a given time, the indicated price of the book at one or more site at the time of the last modification of the publication (supllemental question : does it include a potential discount?). Personally, let me stick to the first option (and so seems to do the help pages, cf. the part about stickers). So please refrain from adding prices of the latter sort to my verified publications (the data can be inserted in the notes as I've done sometimes). Hauck 18:43, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

"Gateways to Forever: The Story of the Science Fiction Magazines from 1970-1980", by Mike Ashley

Based on a later printing of this book, verified by Rtrace, I added a note about 10-digit vs. 13-digit ISBN's to your verified publication. Chavey 17:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Store of the Worlds: The Stories of Robert Sheckley

I added a few notes (about publication date and cover art) to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem 18:43, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Championship B'tok in September 2014 Analog

Edward M. Lerner's story "Championship B'tok" in your verified coyp of the September 2014 issue of Analog was nominated in the Best Novelette category for a Hugo award. We have it listed as a novella. Since our definitions for story length are identical to those in the Hugo rules, you may want to consider changing the length to novelette. I'm leaving this same note on the other verifier's page. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 20:08, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Text given as "Novella" on toc. Hauck 07:26, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Man-Kzin Wars XI

Would you please double check the story titles on p157 and p357 of your verified Man-Kzin Wars XI? In the verified original hardcover, they are "Catspaws" (with an 's') and "Teacher's Pet" (with an apostrophe) which also agrees with Locus. Please merge or variant your titles as appropriate. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:02, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, corrected. Hauck 07:32, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Le prix du suicide

Added OCLC number and uploaded a larger cover scan to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 09:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC).

Signature on La chaîne de feu cover

Hello. This signature (framed B) in the lower right-hand corner of the cover illustration here rings a bell, but there are quite a few similar ones. Any idea who that might be ? TIA, Linguist 20:22, 9 April 2015 (UTC).

Special Happenings

My apologies if this is not the proper way to respond to your comment on my Discussion page. The book, "Special Happenings", is probably about 60-70% speculative fiction with the other bits being biographies, poems, and nonfiction. Honestly, I primarily wanted to add the entry of Jill Wants Sunglasses, which I have only discovered in this book, and which is definitely speculative fiction. -DugganSC 03:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy birthday!

You made the (ISFDB) front page today! :-) Ahasuerus 21:01, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Glory at last ! Hauck 11:39, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

The Liquid Man

It turns out that your verified The Liquid Man by C. B. Gilford was originally published in Fantastic Adventures, September 1941 as by Bernard C. Gilford. I wonder if there is any indication in your book whether the text may have been revised/expanded prior to book publication? Ahasuerus 00:00, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Strictly none (1969 copyright, "Never before published" on bc). At 212 pages with a quite smalll typeface, the expansion would have been massive! Hauck 11:59, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Most curious! I have this issue in my collection, so perhaps we could compare the word count and a few paragraphs. First I need to find it, though, since the pulp part of my collection is a mess right now. Ahasuerus 18:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Francis Bessière revisited

I fell upon this Spanish translation of Dorémieux' Voyages dans l'ailleurs here, where the short story entitled “La barbe du ministre” is credited to “F. Richard-Bessière”. See also this site, where the author is called “Francis Richard Bessière”. I would now tend to consider "Francis” as a mere typo for “François” or a faulty development of “F.”, possibly triggered by the fact that he is followed (on the cover, at least) by Francis Carsac in the alphabetical list. The problem of identification will arise when I enter this Spanish translation. So what do you think the best way to tackle it would be ? TIA, Linguist 10:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC).

This subject vaguely ring a bell. IIRC we didn't find (enough ?) evidence to link both authors. IMHO, the spanish title (not possibly PVed as it seems) should be entered as by "Francis Bessière" and varianted to its french counterpart. When we (you or I) will find a copy of Dorémieux's anthology, we'll be able to straighten this mess. Hauck 12:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I think a note about the problem in the pub record wouldn't be out of place either. Linguist 13:14, 15 April 2015 (UTC).

Glace sanglante

Added OCLC number to notes of your verified. Thanks. Linguist 10:46, 15 April 2015 (UTC).

Moi, vampire

Added OCLC number to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 15:46, 16 April 2015 (UTC).

I added the Canadian price to you verified

I added the Canadian price to you verified [2].Don Erikson 19:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Star Science Fiction No. 1

Hello. Can you check your copy of this publication for the page count? My copy has the next page paginated at the bottom after the author's bio as 196. Syzygy 20:09, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll check when back home.Stay tuned.Hauck 07:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, corrected. Hauck 14:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. Syzygy 11:51, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

"Experiment Perilous", ed. by Andrew Porter

I added a minor note to your verified publication about the editor. You noted that it was anonymously edited by Andy Porter, and Inoted that he confirmed that to me when he sent me a copy of it. Chavey 05:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

La montagne morte de la vie

Hello. This novel, which you have verified, is apparently a short one (novella-size), and its English translation has been made into a CHAPBOOK. In order to make it possible to variant the latter to the former, would you agree to modifying the type of the original publication ? TIA, Linguist 08:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC).

I'm personaly against such a move, as we already had this discussion here. The whole CHAPBOOK business is just a waste of time. Hauck 09:17, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I realize that, from a certain point of view, this is purely conventional, as the book was published as a novel, and that CHAPBOOK / NOVEL distinction is meaningless for the French public. But this db system makes it necessary, if one wishes (as I do) to link the text to its translation. It is not doing it when one knows the texts to be the same that seems absurd to me. This being said, I do not wish to start that lengthy discussion again : I'm just willing to do the necessary changes, unless you absolutely object to them. Linguist 09:44, 27 April 2015 (UTC).

Update of Foundation, #42

Hi, I added three reviews and dropped the corresponding essays by Hannu Hiilos and Brian Stableford. Christian Stonecreek 06:37, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


Rich Sternbach

You verified the cover artist for this issue of this magazine as Rich Sternbach, are you sure that it wasn't Rick Sternbach? The cover for this issue is reprinted from here MLB 00:05, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Credit confirmed as entered (Rich). Hauck 14:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Artemis Awakening by Jane Lindskold

I've expanded the notes info on Artemis Awakening by Jane Lindskold, which you primary-verified. Susan O'Fearna 20:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Pierre Ferran and Pierre Ferrand

Is it possible that these authors are the same person? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 02:45, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is. One was misentered data by me, the other is a misprint on title page. Corrected. Hauck 09:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Schismatrix Plus

I updated the chronology page of this [3] record to [321] page number, thank you. Wjmvanruth 13:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Lloyd Biggle - All the Colours of Darkness

Although you're not the primary verifier (and his page said something to the effect of letting another OV know). Regarding this book attribution for cover art has been presumed (at least by a poster on Flick) to be Ray Feibush as he is often confused with Bruce Pennington. I havn't added that information to the record. --Mavmaramis 11:44, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Ken Bulmer Stained-Glass World

Comments here for book suggest the initials are those of Gordon C. Davis. The notes on this edition say that the initials are either indistinct or cut-off and I haven't added this to the notes field to avoid even more confusion. --Mavmaramis 06:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Steven Caldwell - Dangerous Frontiers

In regards to this book Cresent Books published the same book under a different title but if I "Add Variant Title" I cant add all the other details and I'm afraid to use Clone or Add in case I get moaned at. Any suggestions ? --Mavmaramis 09:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

IMHO the "best" way is to start from scratch => create a new title/publication and then variant the resulting title to the former book. Hauck 13:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
So once I create the new record how do I variant to the other book ?--Mavmaramis 13:51, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Pierre Boulle Garden of the Moon

It appears that the cover art for this book is blank. I tried to upload a scan from my own copy but it still shows as blank (even after a F5 refresh). I have probably mentioned this to another reviewer. --Mavmaramis 13:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

It shows an astronaut in the shade in my computer. Hauck 13:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
That's really bizarre. Shows as blank on mine. And yes it should show astronaut (black) on blue background. Twilight Zone here I come then. --Mavmaramis 13:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
If the "F5" button isn't working, you may be using a different browser. Check the browser's settings to see how to clear your cache. Mhhutchins 16:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Adding a book with no publisher or named editor

I have a tp sized art portfolio in my collection titled "Young Artists" which is a showcase of artwork of 34 artists each being give two pages of artwork. It has named individuals on the title page but after headings like "UK publishing" there are also London and New York addresses from Young Artists. There is no named publisher or editor. Any suggestions for entering this or would you suggest not entering it at all ? --Mavmaramis 16:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

In this case, I would create a record with an "uncredited" editor and "Young Artists" as publisher. Hauck 17:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok will do. I'll make a note of the artists listed in the note field. --Mavmaramis 18:02, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The Shattered Ring

Added a note for this book Jacket design stated on rear flap of dust wrapper. --Mavmaramis 18:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Jacket design by [name]

I wanted to get your thoughts on the inconsistency I've noticed over the last 3 days whilst verifying my own collection. I have noticed that sometimes the named individual is listed in the artist field, other times not. I have not been entirely sure whether putting the named individual into the Artist field is ok. Also it seems (at least to me) to be rather odd to inform the PVs of this when surely that information should have already been entered by one (or more) of the verifiers. It does seem to be a rather lengthy way to go about informing someone of something that they (should / probably) already know about the book since they've verified it. I'm guessing that you probably can't readily answer that (to me at least, seemingly obvious) question. When I first started work in the late 1980s and PCs were the 'in thing' (Olivetti's with CRT monitors that displayed everything with an orange colour) I was doing entering data onto a database (very dull stuff - cabinets of insects, moths, butterflies and vascular plants - I worked in a museum back then) there was a large notice on the wall that said "A database is a collection of information some of which is always wrong." --Mavmaramis 17:34, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

The jacket or cover designer is not considered "ISFDB-wise" as the artist, as far as I'm concerned, when facing a case where only a designer is given, I tend to left the "Artist" field blank (and rarely giving the designer's name in the notes). As for the mandatory noticiation of PVs, it's a lenghty process but it's our way of doing things. There are recurring talks of a possible automatisation but nothing came out of it. Hauck 19:00, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Pattern of Expectation

Re this book. I would like to replace the ISFDB image for copy you PVd with the full wraparound version however my scan is a 'stitched' version done in Photoshop which shows the obvious 'join' on the rear portion. I'll wait for a Y/N reply from you before uploading my scan. --Mavmaramis 18:27, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Hauck 18:49, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok thanks. I'll upload the full wraparound artwork for this. --Mavmaramis 16:33, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Slusser Aliens

With reference to this book. I have a 'stitched' version of the full dust wrapper - although again there is a distinct 'line' on the rear part. I have to admit the cover of this book is very bizarre although I examined the artwork thoroughly I cannot find the mysterious 'AR' Initials are to be found as I can't seem to see any initials on this artwork. --Mavmaramis 18:59, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

It's upside down on the head of the astronaut on one of the flaps. Hauck 20:02, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know where to look. I, like you, am also unsure about these being initials - looks more like part of the alien's head but what do I know ? I'll go ahead and upload the full version. --Mavmaramis 16:38, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Benjamin Appel The Fantastic Mirror

Re this book that you verified. My copy has no dust wrapper and has an oval logo on the back consisting of a white elephant and the words "Gibraltar Library Binding" Worth noting ? --Mavmaramis 19:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Likely a book privately binded for a library, IMHO not worth of a note. Hauck 19:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Maybe but it has the exact same cover design as the one pictured. The rear as three white stars. I won't note it as per your suggestion. --Mavmaramis 16:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Re this book. I've added the following to the note field "Designed by C. Linda Dingler" on page iv --Mavmaramis 20:15, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

You can ignore this as you no doubt discovered (as did I after the fact) that information is already recorded. Sorry about that. --Mavmaramis 16:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Le chemin de la Lune

While working on transliterated legal names, I saw your verified Le chemin de la Lune by Alexandre Kazantzev. At first I thought that it was an expansion of his earlier (1951) story of the same title and we just needed to add a note. However, the Russian site FantLab claims that although there was a longer version of the original story, it was a screenplay. They also claim that Le chemin de la Lune was a translation of Лунная дорога, a different work. Their version seems plausible since Лунная дорога means "Moon Road" in Russian.

Just to be on the safe side, could you please check your copy to make sure that it's not a screenplay? TIA! Ahasuerus 21:39, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

The original title is given in cyrilic as "Гость из космоса" (with slight changes but it's recognizable), that's why I was able to link it to something (I'm strictly illiterate in ruissian and can't even know how to enter a single thing in this alphabet). The book is clearly presented as a novel and seems to be separated in three parts (roughly translating as _An Implacable Equation_, _The Planet of Ash_ & _The Seventh Continent_) with the same characters : Gromov, Anikine, Tom Godwin (sic), Ellen Kenny, John Smith (re-sic). Hauck 15:16, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for checking! Luckily, Лунная дорога is available online. There are three parts: "Call of the Cosmos", "The Planet of Ash" and "The Seventh Continent". "The Implacable Equation" is the title of one of the early chapters. Also, a quick scan of the text finds Gromov, Anikin(e), Tom Godwin (Том Годвин), Ellen Kenny (Эллен Кенни) and John Smith (Джон Смит), so it appears to be the same work. Curiously, the book starts with a rehash of Tom Godwin's famous "The Cold Equations" (!).
"Гость из космоса" is also available online. It's a thinly fictionalized discussion of the Tunguska event. I wonder why the publisher referenced it?.. Ahasuerus 17:51, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

John Clute

Re this book. Title reference give full title but publication omits the "essays and reviews 1966-1986" should that not also go into the publication field as well ?

It's permitted to omit those lenghty and pesky subtitles. Hauck 15:18, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
This is another case of inconsistency as some books have it in the 'Publication' field, other times not. You use of the work 'pesky' made me smile at least so thanks. --Mavmaramis 16:47, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Re this book. My copy gives an ISBN for a hardcover edition on the copyright page. Note added to record. --Mavmaramis 05:31, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Charles Platt

Re this book. Have added a note (as per title page) that is published in association with the New English Library. --Mavmaramis 05:44, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Lahna Diskin - Theodore Sturgeon

Regarding this book. The note states "Only copyright is to Lahna F. Diskin" however my identical copy has "Published and copyright 1981 by Starmont House" with no mention of Diskin's name as copyright. I haven't edited that note. --Mavmaramis 17:30, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

I was probably wanting to mean that Lahna F. Diskin was only mentioned (in this form) on copyright page. Hauck 17:53, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Now I can see but the wording is slightly misleading. The copyright page has a brief bio and is the only place where "Dr. Lahna F. Diskin" is named in full. All useful stuff I hope. --Mavmaramis 20:58, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Isacc Asimov / Joseph Patrouch

Brin1 PV'd this book but since he is no longer active and I have found information on the cover artist I wish to add to the record. The artwork is featured on this website and is credited to Peter Jones and is signed PAJ on the iceberg at the bottom which the Panther edition has conveniently cut off. --Mavmaramis 18:01, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Nice, thanks. Hauck 18:57, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Death is No Obstacle

Re this book. I have replaced the ISFDB cover image with the full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 20:04, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Ian Ridpath - Signs of Life

This author has an entry for this book. But not for this book of which I own a copy. Not sure it qualifies as "speculative fiction." I'll wait for a decision from you before adding a new publication. --Mavmaramis 05:54, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I've deleted the whole lot. Hauck 06:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

The Fiction of James Tiptree, Jr.

Hello, Hervé! I'd like to propose some changes for this volume: 1) Tiptree Revealed is not credited in my copy (it seems it should be varianted to Charles N. Brown); 2) It's Author's Afterword by Dozois; 3) I'll add some notes for the copyrights. Would this be okay? Christian Stonecreek 08:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Please proceed. Hauck 09:04, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Journals / Periodicals

I'm probably missing something obvious but I can't see anything in regards to the listing or otherwise of Journals/Periodicals . I have an August 1980 (Volume IX, Number 2) copy of this publication. I suspect that you'll say no but I thought I'd ask before submitting. --Mavmaramis 17:03, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

As per this page and if I understand it correctly, it seems that only the essays about SF on such periodicals are eligible as per section 3 (but also see section 7). Hauck 17:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Only fiction in non-genre magazines are allowed into the database. So records for non-genre magazines can only include the issue's fiction content. See here for rules concerning the entry of non-genre periodicals. Mhhutchins 18:46, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
I have done scan of the contents page and uploaded it to Flickr (I'd be unreadable if I uploaded to here). Picture. Hope that's reasonably readable enough for you to decide. If it's going to be more hassle than it's worth then I'll leave it. --Mavmaramis 19:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
IMHO this issue seems SF specific and easily worth the inclusion (just look at the names of the authors). But I decided to stay away from any discussion of doctrine points. I'll drop the matter. Hauck 19:37, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Star Trek Movie Memories

I have a copy of this book but cannot determine whether I have the 1994 HarperCollins (UK) tp or the Nov 1994 - neither entry is helpful in determining which one I should verify. Details of my copy are identical to both states (but I note the first entry has 357 pages, the second 358) although there may be a mistake as 357 is the last numbered page there is an unnumbered page with text after that dated 19 September 1994. Any help appreciated. --Mavmaramis 17:41, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

As both are unverified, it's likely that it's in fact the same book, choose the one you prefer and ask for the deletion of the other. Hauck 19:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok I'll get to verification and add note to moderator re the other entry. --Mavmaramis 16:44, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Submission accepted, I've also varianted all the cover images. Hauck 17:23, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Star Trek Speaks

I have a copy of this book that states it is published "in association with" Futura. Copyright page merely states "First Wallaby printing October 1979" I didn't want to bodge up when adding a new variant as it seems that Futura merely reprinted the Wallaby edition adding their logo to the front cover and spine, a UK ISBN number and the "in association" bit. --Mavmaramis 17:59, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

A new ISBN largely warrant a new entry. Hauck 19:41, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
New publication record added --Mavmaramis 17:41, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Space Wars Fact and Fiction

I have a copy of this book for which more detailed information can be found here. It contains a Dan Dare a like comic strip called "Space Cadet" probably illustrated by Gerry Wood (looks somewhat like Don Lawrence's Trigan Empire work) and some David Hardy illustrations. I'm pretty sure your going to say no but I though I'd ask. --Mavmaramis 19:06, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

If there's fiction in it (as the blog seems to imply), I'd say Yes but it's IMHO (there will probably be someone to say the opposite). Hauck 19:46, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok well I'll add it as a new publication but leave it up to the moderator for that record to decide yes or no. Thanks for your input though. It is appreciated. --Mavmaramis 17:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Design Studio Press

I have a number of art portfolios published by DSP that are not listed thus: 1. LA<>SF: A Sketchbook From California. Might be problematic entering the title as it's written "LA<>SF" on cover but listed as "LA/SF" elsewhere. 2. In The Future 3. The Skillful Huntsman 4. Lift Off 5. Start Your Engines 6. Concept Design

I'd prefer to wait for a decision about these (especially the first one) before adding them. --Mavmaramis 19:29, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you sure that the first is spec-fic? Hauck 20:01, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't believe so, at least from the artwork. I'll ignore that one entirely and probably add the others at some point. --Mavmaramis 21:30, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Jack Vance

Re this book. I've added a note about the ISBN of the signed edition as stated on the very last page. --Mavmaramis 21:32, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Tolkien / Paul Kocher

Re this book. I added the note "Cover design by Tony Meeuwissen" (as stated on rear cover). Note that the cover of this book is a 'artistic' version --Mavmaramis 22:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Fantasy Tales spring 1989

Re this book. I replaced the ISFDB cover with the full wraparound artwork. --Mavmaramis 22:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Elfquest

I could use some guidance / clarification in regards to the Elfquest series listed here. I have a run of eight volumes, the first two are the Starblaze / Donning editions here and here, but the next one is neither this or this but is a Father Tree Press version with "Book Three: Captives of the Blue Mountain" on the title page. Should I add my Father Tree Press editions (Books 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8) as new publications ? --Mavmaramis 12:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

IMHO you can enter your publications (if they're not already present). As for their precise position in the series, it's your call (the relative position of texts is always a matter of debate), note that giving a rank in the series is not mandatory (I rarely give it as I left it to experts). Hauck 12:33, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok I'll add then as new titles. Their positions within the series are fortunately listed on the first free page before the title but like you will leave it to an expert. --Mavmaramis 13:14, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

The Dark Wheel

In reference to this publication. I actually have a physical printed copy that came with the original game. There doesn't seem to be a way to edit / verify the record. --Mavmaramis 13:16, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

It's logical, this is a "publicationless" title : a text included in the author's ISFDB bibliography but on a "unallowed" support. Hauck 14:08, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Seems that entry is the only one available for that publication. Should I 'Add New Chapbook' ? --Mavmaramis 15:58, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
It's probably better not to enter anything in this case (lest it becomes complicated). Hauck 16:31, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Shame since the published chapbook has a wonderful cover. Actually two states exist. See here. My copy is the one on the left. Also the follow up games Frontier Elite II and Frontier First Encountes included these chapbooks - my FFE version is the plain cover version. All these can be obtained from this webpage. Hope this has been informative. --Mavmaramis 17:00, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I was thinking of a less sophisticated product (like a stack of photocopied pages), in this case (where it's a "real" book) you can use the 'Add New Chapbook' function. Hauck 17:09, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Unable to tell editions apart

I have two copies of this book. The one shown with the template design and another with a different cover. I have already "Add new title" for this book that I have which has identical contents (even down to the "First edition" on copyright page) but has a different cover. Am I doing the right thing (and how can I tell editions apart if the contents, credits and copyright page are identical to both states.) ? --Mavmaramis 16:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

If it's strictly the same book, just add data in the notes with possibly a link in the notes (like here). Hauck 16:35, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
It is exactly the same book just with a different cover - I'm guessing they're different editions but not stated. As for linking to the alternate image. Might be tricky if you can't find the variant cover depicted on the internet or they are very small. --Mavmaramis 16:48, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Clute / SF Illustrated Encyclopedia

Replaced the Amazon artwork for this book with one scanned from my own copy. --Mavmaramis 16:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Game Art Portfolios

I have three hardback art portfolios associated with the game World of Warcraft that AFAIK were only available with the collector's edition versions. Although they are available mostly on the 2nd hand market. Here, here and here What do you think ?--Mavmaramis 18:43, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Why not, we've already got about everything that Freas or Finlay has ever drawn. We are here (IMHO) on the fringes of the ISFDB "mission" but if it's spec-fic, it can go in. Hauck 20:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Maybe a stupid and/or obvious question but do art portfolios count as "fiction" if they have no text ? (I was going to ask what counts as "speculative fiction" but you'll probably direct me to some "Speculative Fiction for Numpties" page.) Anyway I'll get round to stuffing them on at some point. --Mavmaramis 20:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
We already have numerous portfolios like those listed here. So it's not a new direction. Hauck 20:51, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps these questions would be better posed on the ISFDB:Moderator noticeboard to get a broader response. Mhhutchins 20:45, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
(unindent) Next time I have a serious question about a broad definition and what does/does not quality I'll post something on the moderator noticeboard as suggested. I would like to point out that those were rhetorical questions. --Mavmaramis 10:15, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Wojtek Siudmak

I have in my collection 5 (out of 6) art portfolios of Siudmak. All but this one have ISBNs. To add or not to add ? --Mavmaramis 19:13, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Same as above. Hauck 20:15, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
What if a book has text in two languages ? I assume that the language of the country the book was published is used. In this case I put French as it's a French edition and made a note "Text in French and English" Hope that's ok. --Mavmaramis 05:30, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, note that I have regularized capitalization of the titles as per french usage (no capitals except for first word and proper nouns). Hauck 09:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. The title pages of these publications didn't capitalize and are printed in italicised script that wasn't easy to read so I pasted the title from elsewhere --Mavmaramis 12:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Clarke / Fall of Moondust

I have a copy of this book. As can be seen it is "freely adapted" by this Kneebone chap. Do I put him as a 2nd author. Why does my book collection contain so many anomalies ? (rhetorical question there). --Mavmaramis 20:22, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Only the title page can answer to that. Hauck 20:51, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Limited editions

I have copies of the following books:
Hyperluminal
Beyond the Horizon
The Art of Ian Miller

The three I have are the limited edition versions that were issued with slip cases and a signed print and limited to 300 copies worldwide. They have the same ISBNs as the regular hardback editions. These have variant covers from the standard editions.

Any suggestions on how to enter them or merely make a note to that effect in the respective entries ? --Mavmaramis 09:09, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

We tend to have a separate record for each version, for example (with anthologies) the standard version and the limited one. Hauck 09:37, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok I'll "add title to record" for the two that have same ISBNs and add note. Thanks. --Mavmaramis 12:09, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
(addendum) In the case of the Burns book, the book itself doesn't have any text on it, merely an illustration on the wraparound jacket. Should I use the artwork from the slipcase (which does have the title on it) and what's the protocol for adding art for books that are in illustrated slipcases (since you can only upload one image) ? Would be nice to be able to include the art on the slipcase too. --Mavmaramis 12:22, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Cry from Beyond / Pini

This book belongs to the Elfquest series and is number 7. I must have forgotten to put that in at the time but now I can't add that info. Seems that there is some variety in the way the format of these publications are listed. Some are CHAP, some ANTH and others are NOVEL. --Mavmaramis 11:35, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I've entered the series info. Hauck 11:55, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Another of my multitudinous cock-ups. --Mavmaramis 12:10, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Rogue's Challenge

This book is number 9 in the series. Couldn't do anything about that at the time since it was already listed. --Mavmaramis 12:13, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I've done the modification for you. In fact, the rank is at title level, so you could have gone here and use the "Edit Title Data" item to add the rank. The only time where you can add such data in one go is effectively at the creation of a record when you create simultaneously the title record (it's the first group of field) and the publication record (the second group). Hauck 15:51, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Author name is initials only

I have a collection of short stories but one of the author's names is merely initials omly thus "S.L.A.M." Should I type that as is and add a note / note to moderator to that effect ? --Mavmaramis 13:16, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

IMHO it's all right as per the first rule of the ISFDB "THOU SHALL ENTER DATA EXACTLY AS IT IS ON TITLE PAGE" (note that there are exceptions). Hauck 15:53, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Beksinski

Re this book. I have a variant edition (3rd print of 06/2006) however I'd like to point out that it is merely titled "The Fantastic Art of Beksinski" (including on title page). I don't want to go right ahead and add without mention. --Mavmaramis 17:26, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

The fact of having the book trumps all other data, for this reason (and what I can see on the cover), I changed the title, you can add your publication. Hauck 17:45, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Chapbook

I was wondering in regards to [4] this book why its classed as a chapbook when clearly it has 126 pages. Or is it something to do with the amount of text ? --Mavmaramis 18:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

The second reason is the correct one, a CHAPBOOK is a book containing a single text of fiction of a length <40,000 words. Hauck 19:18, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

First Encounters / Julian Flood

Just to make you aware since I didn't want to add a length note to moderator. The two Julian Flood stories in this appeared in other magazines. Lucifer Falling in Far Point and Children of a Greater God in Interzone. --Mavmaramis 19:45, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Normally, you should have proceeded to the manual merge yourself. I've done this for you this time. Hauck 21:03, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Yet another thing I was unaware of or even how to do. --Mavmaramis 04:37, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Holdstock Encyclopedia of SF

I just wanted to double check. I have both the Octopus and the Cathay editions of this book. Could you check page 91 for me (I've got both open at the same page) and my Cathay edition has sidebar text that reads "A V2 rocket in a spinning top - Alex Schomberg's cover from Thrilling Wonder seems hopelessly dated now, unlike many pulp magazines of the time" (this text above the Angus McKie illustration) but the Octopus version doesn't have this text at all. This sidebar text in the Cathay edition indicates (to me at least) that above it there should be an illustration - there's space for one. Can't ask Brin1 as PV of the Cathay edition as he's no longer active. Should I make a note of it in the records ? --Mavmaramis 17:14, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

No sidebar text, no other illustration than McKie's. IMHO not worth of a mention in the notes. Hauck 17:44, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

James Gunn Alternate World.

Re this book. My paperback copy has "$8.95 / $9.95 Canada" printed on the back but is otherwise identical. Could you check before I verify and add note to moderator ? --Mavmaramis 17:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Data confirmed as entered. You're likely to have a later printing, so a new publication. Hauck 18:59, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Magill / Survey of SF Literature

The entry here records the five volume set and only volume two. I have all five volumes of this set. Should I verify the first on the list (i.e. the five volume set) and add the other volumes as individual records (since you can buy them individually from AbeBooks) ? --Mavmaramis 19:16, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Hauck 20:06, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Naha Science Fictionary

I've just verified this book but wanted to mention that my copy's dust wrapper is price clipped. --Mavmaramis 19:29, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Cyborg Handbook

I have a copy of this book and wanted your opinion on whether it warrants inclusion ? --Mavmaramis 17:24, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

IMHO, no. Hauck 17:29, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
It is a very curious book and does in fact have one short story by Philip K. Dick in it. However I'll bow to your superiority by not entering it. I have a lot of books to enter but I'm saving them up for my day off work on Friday. --Mavmaramis 19:28, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Bleiler Supernatural Fiction Writers

Re this book or more precisely books. Looks like PV is inactive (verified in March, last post on talk page Feb). It's split into two volumes each with their own ISBN although the one given for the entry is correct for the set. Mine has a copyright date of 2002 but no publishing date and number line ends in 3. Unsure quite how to proceed with this - create record for my 2003 copyright edition, and for the two volumes separately. Also the title page says "Charles Scribner's Sons" above "Thompson / Gale" and on copyright page "an imprint of The Gale Group." --Mavmaramis 16:40, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

For me, two ISBNs = two titles (in your case with an unknown pub date), then varianted to the set. For the publisher, "Charles Scribner's Sons" seems enough. Hauck 16:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Star Trek

I have a UK copy of this publication. To enter or not to enter ? --Mavmaramis 19:08, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

As per our estimed colleague Michael, issues of non SF magazines containing only non fiction are not allowed. Hauck 19:38, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Alien Creatures

Regarding this book. I have a "copy" of this book. I use the quotes as my copy has some subtle differences to the entry shown. 1. ISBN printed on rear cover is 0-89169-501-0. (2) Price is £2.50 (printed on back). The copyright page states "First edition March 1978 and gives ISBN of hardcover edition. LCCN is 77-94830 if that helps. --Mavmaramis 20:04, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps an UK-specific printing? Better to add it, as the ISBN won't compute, put a "#" before it. Hauck 20:51, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Burgess Reference Guide

For information this book is part of "Reference Sources in the Humanities Series." --Mavmaramis 17:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Clarke Childhood's End

Re this book. I'm making enquiries about the artist for this book. Discussion here rules out Tony Roberts and I have posted a message to Chris Foss' Facebook page. May all be for nought mind but I'll let you know either way. --Mavmaramis 17:48, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Islands in the Sky

Replacing cover art for this book with full wraparound artwork. --Mavmaramis 19:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Clarke Expedition to Earth

I have PVd this book and am going to change the publisher from New English Library to Sidgwick & Jackson as NEL (and logo) only appear on cover. S&J is on title page and copyright page states "Published in this edition in 1976 by Sidgwick and Jackson Limited." [Pasted from my own talk page where it was posted in error]. --Mavmaramis 07:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I've approved your submission (and added price as seen on your cover). As you're sole PV on this book, the choice of the publisher is your call (a moderator will only intervene if there's a manifest error or a possible regularization). In this case your description is sufficient to validate the change. You can use the Help Page when in doubt. Hauck 07:24, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The help page is useful but in this case I wanted to at least let someone know that I'd made the modification and the reasons why even though I was doing it from a primary source. It merely meant that my mind was put at ease. I suffer from this and one of the downsides is bouts of paranoia. --Mavmaramis 08:56, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
No problem, you can continue as you're doing, data on your impressive collection is much welcomed. Hauck 09:11, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

The Lost Continent

Replaced cover for this book with the full wraparound artwork. --Mavmaramis 08:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Close Encounters of the Third Kind Fotonovel

There is this record and then there is this which is the one I cloned. Should the two records not be merged ? I was a bit confused when I found the Fotonovel image under the Novels section. Hope I haven't made a mistake. --Mavmaramis 09:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Nice catch, I'll ask PV1, stay tuned. Hauck 09:35, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Deathworms of Kratos

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound artwork. --Mavmaramis 10:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Edmund Cooper Transit

Cover art for this book is credited in this book. Note added. --Mavmaramis 11:30, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Editing unverified publications not owned

I wanted to ask about this. I added cover artist for this book which I don't own because it's featured in this book. What's the procedure for doing so - post to moderator's notice board ? (But that might get swamped with similar short messages in the next few days as I continue to wade through my directory of scanned book covers). --Mavmaramis 12:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

If it's not PVed, just add the source of the data in the notes, no use to post on a general board. When the book will be PVed everything will (hopefully) checked.Hauck 12:30, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok i'll do that then. Thanks. --Mavmaramis 13:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Benedict's Planet

Replaced artwork for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 13:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Carnell New Writings 4

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 13:43, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Seventh Son

I cloned this book as, although it's unverified, I cannot be certain that there isn't a 1991 edition with the same cover as my "This edition 1989" number line ending 4 copy. --Mavmaramis 16:23, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Songmaster cockup

I replaced the cover for this book which should have been for the paperback edition here due to the fact the paperback edition is published by Macdonald Futura (despite the Orbit logos). Will verify the paperback edition and make the necessary changes. Sorry about that. --Mavmaramis 16:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Reverted. Hauck 16:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Chalker Nathan Brazil

I made a clone of an early Penguin edition of this book but looks like someone got there first. Anyway I'm going to verify that entry as I'm pretty convinced it's identical to my copy (1986 date, number line ending 2). I'm going to post a message to PV regarding cover art credit discrepancy (mine definitely has it printed on rear). --Mavmaramis 17:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Swampworld West

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:08, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Buck Rogers

I have been looking at this book. I have a copy of this book which seems to be different. Namely the editor is Lorraine Dille William. It does have a Ray Bradbury intro titled "Buck Rogers in Apollo Year 1" but it is dated 18 October 1969 (not the 11th). It omits the Buck Rogers Autobiography essay and adds two sections (1) The Men Who Made it Possible" uncredited essays on the Dille family with photos and (2) a reprinted version of Nowlan's story Armageddon 2419AD from Amazing Stories. Should I enter it as a new anthology ? --Mavmaramis 19:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I'd say the latter. Hauck 19:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Lan-Zaren and Lan Zaren

Can you determine if these two are the same person, and if so, establish a canonical name? Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:01, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Done. Hauck 05:50, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Cowper - Clone

Replaced cover art for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 04:59, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Kuldesak

Cover art for this book is by Jim Burns, referenced in this book. Record edited accordingly. (edited with correct first link) ---Mavmaramis 09:59, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Twilight of Briarius

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 05:15, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Daphne du Maurier

I may be missing something very obvious but I have a paperback edition of this book published by Penguin under the title "The Birds and Other Stories" (exact same contents). If I "add a variant" at this page it doesn't give me any boxes for publisher, price and so forth. Help ? --Mavmaramis 07:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

When you variant at this page you're operating at the title level, a "immaterial" level for example to indicate that this work exists also under a different title without any "physical" data. What you want to do is to operate at the publication level because you're interested in "physical" objects (books, magazines or files). In this case you either have to stay at title level and use the "Add Publication to This Title" item or go down at publication level (choose the one that is nearest to your copy to limit the typing) here and use the "Clone This Pub" function then modify the necessary fields. Hauck 10:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Fate of the Phoenix

I have a conundrum. I was looking at this list to find my "5 printing through May 1985" Bantem edition. Initially I picked this record to clone and edit but then realised the ISBN was different. ISBN matched this record so I started a clone. Book cover has 0-55302191-1 on rear and spine but 0-553-24638-0 on copyright page. --Mavmaramis 08:54, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

IMHO you've picked the correct one, there should only be one fifth printing (normally), update it and note the difference in ISBN. Hauck 10:14, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Best New SF3

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound artwork. Edited notes as well. --Mavmaramis 10:13, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Tucker Time Masters

Re this book can say for definite cover is Bruce Pennington. See here for proof. --Mavmaramis 13:05, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

The Sky is Falling

Re this book. I'm going to add a note "Cover art may be Ray Feibush. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed)." It's definitely not Bruce Pennington (confirmed via Facebook). --Mavmaramis 13:24, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Rocket from Infinity

Re this book which is marked N/A for Clute/Nicholls. Just looked in C/N myself as I have a note that this book is written by Paul W. Fairman. Page 319 of C/N states "Some novels which appeared under his [Lester Del Rey] name in 1966-8 were actually written, from LDR's extensive outlines, by Paul W. Fairman" with a list that includes Rocket from Infinity (1966).--Mavmaramis 13:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Wooden Centauri

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 19:33, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Ubik

Just wanted to check this book. Note says "no visible signature on the wraparound artwork." My 1973 edition has a grey spine and rear cover (no wraparound) nor can I recall ever seeing a wraparound version of this artwork. --Mavmaramis 11:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, probably an overenthousiastic editor. Hauck 13:52, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Ganymede Takeover

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 12:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Disch - Genocides

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 16:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Perry Rhodan UK (Orbit)

Replaced covers for 9 of the first 13 UK editions of this series with full wraparounds. You seem to be PV for the ones that have them anyway and I though rather than leave you 13 individual messages I'd leave just the one with link to series page here if you wanted to check. Hope that's ok. --Mavmaramis 18:58, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [5].Don Erikson

Padgett's Tomorrow and Tomorrow and The Fairy Chessmen

Please see this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:57, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Oe > Πin title

Hello. Do you object to my changing “Oeuvres” to ”Œuvres” in the title of your verified ? Thanks. Linguist 13:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC).

No problem. Hauck 13:46, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
If you're going to change the title field of the title record, you should also change the title fields of both publication records. Thanks.Mhhutchins 15:11, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Done. I'll also deal with these in the same way. Linguist 09:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC).

Niven Protector

Further to the discussion regarding this book. Original error of record that had the 1972 edition cover scan. My suggestion would be to delete the artwork uploaded for it (it should be for the 1972 edition). The secondary source log is "almost certainly" correct in attributing the artwork to Roberts. It was the simple fact that the artwork and the credit didn't match raised that raised the red flag for me. It's no joke that I lost a whole nights sleep with stress and worry over the debacle. --Mavmaramis 16:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

I know it's more easier said than done, but try not to worry too much about this. As far as I'm concerned, I very rarely use secondary sources lest they be in error, I prefer leaving a field blank than inserting questionable data. Hauck 17:16, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Hauck for your understanding. One of the drawbacks of being an Aspie is being consumed by worrying over minutiae such as this (at least for me) which ends up with me not being able to sleep. Must go more carefully when editing such 'red flag' records. --Mavmaramis 17:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Ellern - New Lensman

Re this book. The contents page has chapter 8 as "Moon Inspector" but correctly titled "Moon Prospector" in main body of text. --Mavmaramis 18:06, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Sundance and other stories

The cover art for Sundance and other stories was done by Angus McKie, same cover art as " Les sphères de l'oubli.--Dirk P Broer 23:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Linda Barr and Linda Burr

Can you confirm the credit for the artwork on page 122 of this publication? Linda Burr did a number of pieces for Asimov's and Analog during this time period and I'm thinking it's probably the same artist. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 01:54, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Under a magnifying glass, it's "Burr", corrected. Hauck 07:07, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Body Snatchers

Your a fast worker as I was coming back to cancel the submission for this book when I realised there was a variant title underneath as it's titled "The Invasion of...." Sorry about that. --Mavmaramis 17:42, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Deleted. Hauck 18:08, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Les annales des Heechees

According to this title record, the first J'ai Lu printing of Les annales des Heechees appeared in June 1898 (sic), which was presumably supposed to be 1998-06 or 1989-06. We also have an Amazon.fr-derived record for a 1999-01 printing with the same ISBN, but I suspect that it may be the same printing incorrectly dated. Worldcat says that the book came out in 1989 as part of J'ai Lu - Science Fiction. Noosfere knows of two printings with subtly different covers, one in June 1989 and the other in April 1995. What do you think? Ahasuerus 20:34, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

I've put the dates in coherence with the cover-types (1989 without grey stripe, 1999 with). Regarding the 1999 copy, I distrust amazon on principle. Hauck 20:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Should we change the "1999" printing to April 1995 to match what Noosfere has then? Ahasuerus 21:56, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
We can left it as an unverified record, perhaps it corresponds to a "real" book. Hauck 08:10, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Analog JAN 1979

A submission has been made to change the credit for the artwork of Final Solution from 'uncredited' to 'John Butterfield' as credit appears vertically at bottom left on page 105 in Analog JAN 1979. Syzygy 20:47, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

File exceeds limits

Please reduce both the image (to 600 pixels) and the file size (to 150K) of this file. Mhhutchins 04:39, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Rayons pour Sidar

Re-sized the cover-scan of your verified. Thanks. Linguist 14:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC).

Peter Goodfellow's cover art

I must say I don't get this. Is it an error, or am I missing something ? Thanks. Linguist 16:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC).

The cover art for the Wul is included in this pictorial, eventually, its first use as a book cover (likely on a british pb) will surface and it will again become a COVERART record. Hauck 16:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC) Hauck 16:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Ah, right ! Thanks. Linguist 16:07, 24 May 2015 (UTC).
After some research, the result is here. Hauck 16:45, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

This Fortress World

Cover artist for this book is Tony Roberts, credited in this book/ Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 07:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Legacy of the Stars

Re this book. Added note "Uncredited cover art, no visible signature (cropped); name of artist from 1979 Leisure Books edition." --Mavmaramis 07:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

La quête cosmique

Cover artist found for La quête cosmique. --Zapp 12:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Starseed Mission

Replacing cover of this book with one that includes the spine as artwork extends to that point. --Mavmaramis 18:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Analog July-August 2011

For this issue on page 146, the title for interior art seems unnecessarily varianted when the intention was to variant the author. Can you confirm this? Syzygy 15:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, don't know where this comes from, it's corrected now. Hauck 16:00, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Quick work. Syzygy 16:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Infinite Dreams

Replaced Amazon cover of this book with full wraparound version. Cover art is Peter Jones credited on page 63 of Jones' "Solar Wind" and it's signed 'Paj' and I also added the Australian price to the notes. --Mavmaramis 17:32, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Pastel City

Replaced cover art for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:35, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Interworld

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:50, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Les visiteurs de l'an 2.000

Removed decimals from price of your verified. Thanks. Linguist 19:26, 29 May 2015 (UTC).

Triangle pub series

Concerning the two pub series of Édtions du Triangle : as the numeration is continuous, I think Éditions du Triangle - Science-Fiction and Éditions du Triangle - Science-Fiction-Anthologie should be merged, and the “Anthologie” bit mentioned in the notes as a sub-series (as for Super luxe, for instance). Since there is only one book of the Second Variety (haha) so far, it won't be too much trouble. I was going to add another one, but your opinion about this would be useful before I do. TIA, Linguist 19:56, 29 May 2015 (UTC).

As per what I've done for a similar case (continuous numerotation with name change) here I tend to stick with my previous position : the series should, for the time being (awaiting new verifications) stay separate. Hauck 20:04, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but this is really more like the Super luxe case; I wouldn't call it a name change, but a short, temporary sub-series concerning only #14, 16, 18 and 19 on a grand total of 26. All the others are just “Triangle SF”. Linguist 20:15, 29 May 2015 (UTC).
Seeing what a potential mess could this series become (note the mess in the printing dates), I prefer to work only with books on hand.Hauck 20:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
OK, we'll leave it at that for the moment… Linguist 20:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC).

Nova 2

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 20:27, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Planet of the Damned

Cover artist for this book is (given the 'BL' signature) Bob Layzell. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 21:24, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

West of Eden

Apologies but I uploaded the paperback edition's artwork for this book. Sometimes I don't see the correct entry for looking. --Mavmaramis 08:59, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Deleted. Hauck 09:33, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Year's Best SF 1972

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 16:32, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Another Goodfellow cover

Cover art of La légende des niveaux fermés seems to be by Peter Goodfellow. Cheers ! Linguist 12:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC).

Christian Volckmann or Volckman

Can you confirm the cover art credit for this publication? Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed as entered. Hauck 19:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Between Planets

Re this book. Discussion on Bruce Pennington's Facebook page states this picture is in Science Fiction Monthly Vol 1. No. 3 where it is credited to one "Ronald Ferns" and the FB page confirms it is not by Pennington. I'll add a note to that effect and replace the cover with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:35, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

The Past Through Tomorrow 1 & 2

Re this book and this book neither of which have been primary verified. I have NEL paperback editions of these two volmes both of which have copyright pages that state "This impression 1987" (no month given.) I didn't want to go ahead and make substantial changes to these records as, although I know that the covers are correct (they are a split of the Tim White illustration used on this book) for the NEL paperback editions I don't own these particular versions. My copies have completely different artwork but details are identical. I'll wait for your wise and learned response as I find it hard to believe that they'd be reissued with different covers within three months. --Mavmaramis 18:18, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

If you could let me know about this at some point I'd appreciate it. Thanks. --Mavmaramis 19:57, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't see your question among other notifications. The fact that you own the physical books surpasses anything. IMHO you should PV both publications then upload your own scans. If another 1987 NEL printing surfaces, somebody will create it. In principle, I tend to distrust the amazon covers on non-PVed publications. Hauck 20:06, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Heinlein - Space Cadet

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:36, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Heinlein - Space Family Stone

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

3 to the Highest Power

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 17:19, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

One Hundred Years of Science Fiction Book Two

Replaced the rather washed out cover art for this book with a better version scanned from my own copy. --Mavmaramis 17:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Douglas Lindsay - Blue Moon

Cover art for this book is Josh Kirby from the list on this webpage. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 19:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help with the Arabian Nights books

I'm glad they are finally all in there. I appreciate all your help with them, especially the last few days. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

More Women of Wonder

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 07:28, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Orbit 4

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 08:05, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Nebula Winners 14

Cover art for this book is by Bruce Pennington, credited on his Facebook page here. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 11:00, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Eye of the Lens

Re the cover art attribution for this book. I did a bit of googling using the name and I came across a golf and equestrian artist named Michael Heslop - patently not the same man, so off to the Savoy website via Moorcock's "The Russian Intelligence" and lo and behold this page. I'll add that nugget of info to the note. --Mavmaramis 06:21, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

The Dark Mind

Cover art of this book is by Josh Kirby from this list. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 10:38, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Manalone

Cover art for this book is by Angus McKie according to this site. Record amended accordingly. My copy had some tipex (aka snowpake) on the inside front cover through which I could see some writing so I carefully scraped it away to reveal "To John from Colin Kapp" --Mavmaramis 10:51, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

The Earth Tripper

Replaced Amazon cover of this book with one scanned from my own copy. --Mavmaramis 11:03, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Mythmaster

Cover artist of this book is Colin Hay credited in this book. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 11:24, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

iRobot

could you check to make *sure* the interior art for iRobot by Jim Burns is the same? His website says yes, but I love verification :D Susan O'Fearna 00:49, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, they're the same artwork. Hauck 10:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Life Probe short story

I updated this short story to add it to the Makers series. You can see my submission here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Podcasts in db?

I was a bit confused if adding Starshipsofa was appropriate, since Escape Pod has its own page as well. But maybe it is because Escape Pod had a digest magazine for a while? --Cattfish

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?25415

It is also one of only two podcasts listed on the magazine page without any issues.

http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Magazines

The wiki pages are quite separate from the db proper. Regarding the non-acceptance of StarShipSofa, I've checked the RoAs here that mention only audiobooks and verified if there were eventually previous issues of the podcast (none that I can find). Perhaps that my analysis is incorrect, don't hesitate to state your case here. Hauck 10:18, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

MIND

Hello and thanks for the help with getting MIND into the database. It was not easy finding out how to respond to your message to me. There is a correction. The $7.99 price was for the ebook from Amazon. The print book is $15.99 from Amazon, BN, other online stores and Booklocker.com.

I don't know if you read all of what comes across your desk, but if you do read MIND, I hope you enjoy it.

ABC

Laumer - The Monitors & Worlds of the Imperium

Cover art for Monitors and Worlds of the Imperium are by Josh Kirby credited from this list. Records amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 19:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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