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Hello, Shsilver, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Ahasuerus 12:14, 7 Feb 2007 (CST)

Helix submission

From our Policy page:. "Web only publications such as webzines. The problem for us is that they are not durable; anything we index could change, be reorganized, edited, updated with new versions or revisions, and so on. In addition, the URLs are not likely to be durable. So for now web only publications are not accepted into the ISFDB." Which, unfortunately, is true of Helix. Sorry. Hopefully you will find this response; you can reply on this page.--swfritter 21:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I guess you haven't found the wiki. I am regretfully rejecting your submission for the reasons above. Even if we could form a consensus to add Helix to our database it really wouldn't be possible since it no longer has a web presence.--swfritter 21:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Note to other editors. I used email to inform Shsilver of the rejection of his submission. He saw this wiki entry and hopefully will now be able to log on.--swfritter 22:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


I accepted the submission adding this fanzine, but had to make some changes. Any nonfiction piece should be entered as an ESSAY type. The NONFICTION type is reserved for title records of larger works (nonfiction books or collection of nonfiction pieces). Also reviews should be entered in the fields directly below the first set of open fields for contents. You have the chance to enter the book under the review, the author of the book, and the reviewer of the book. I fixed those to reviews but you'll have to go back in and add the authors of the books. Also, it there a publisher listed, is there a price, what is the total page count, is there a cover artist. More importantly does the publication have a date other than 2008. When entering contents that are original to the publication you should leave the date field blank for the contents as the system will automatically date them the same date placed in the pub's header fields. Placing 0000-00-00 into those fields overrides the system and the content records remain undated. Thanks for the contribution. MHHutchins 04:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


Your submissions correcting the 0000-00-00 dates aren't working as you're not giving the month and day. These need to be supplied even if unknown - e.g. 2008-00-00. I'll do Argentus en masse for you. BLongley 13:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Horrible Beginnings

I approved your update, thanks for the contents! But can you check the spelling of "Stefan R. Diemianowicz" please? BLongley 14:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Helix submission

I think you are able to read this wiki page and I know you got my email. There is a discussion on our Moderator Noticeboard about this issue and a beginning discussion about initials. The ISFDB is a community endeavor and it is important that issues be discussed and there be a consensus about content. I will be sending this to in an email and would like to have your permission to put the contents of my email and your responses on your talk page. Congratulations on the Hugo nomination for Argentus.--swfritter 18:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

As I've told you before, the H in my name is not an initial, it is my full middle name. Re-submitted the Helix information on the advice of another editor. I've also provided you with several places to verify the Helix information. Shsilver 18:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
All ten issues of Helix are now in there. I might note that one of our primary goals is to document publications from the primary source. Much of our data is from secondary sources but there is always the potential for a print or downloadable publication to be eventually verified from a primary source. That is no longer possible with Helix. The secondary source is also an internet publication (one of my favorites) which has disappeared from the web at times. From a bibliographic standpoint the seven issues of Helix that were initially entered in the database are incomplete in many ways and the ones entered from secondary sources even more so. They can never be fixed. I had hoped to find a methodology for including more webzine publications in our database but I think the abrupt disappearance of Helix will substantially reduce that possibility.--swfritter 18:25, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Series for Errors and Omissions

I have this submission on hold because I was wondering if perhaps the series should be a little less ambiguous - something more than just "2008". Perhaps if I knew what the long term purpose of the series?--swfritter 18:30, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I have rejected the submission since it's been out there for awhile.--swfritter 13:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Argentus, Issue 8

The previous post led me to look at this pub which I think you probably entered. There are various issues involved but I would first like to make sure that you actually entered the issue.--swfritter 18:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, he made the submission for that pub. See the comment above. If this is about the missing authors in the book reviews, I'd asked that he revisit this pub. No action so far. MHHutchins 18:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Argentus page created

I created the the Argentus wiki page with links to the two fanzines. Still basically under construction but at least now the pubs can be accessed from the wiki.--swfritter 18:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

This Way Into the Wendy House

Hello, after verifying my copy of Interzone, I've approved your submission. Please remember that, when you're changing Primary Verified data, our etiquette requires you to notify the PV(s) involved. You were lucky as I'm the sole PV of this issue and I kind of "self-notify" me when I've approved your submission. Note also that the story is given as This Way Into the Wendy House on toc, a fact that I added in the notes. Thanks for finding this error. Hauck 13:27, 21 February 2018 (EST)

Walter Dinjos

A quick googling didn't lead to any results about the death of this author. I've put your submission on hold. Please, could you specify your source? Stonecreek 11:02, 17 December 2018 (EST)

With another submission which had a valid actual link I approveed of your submission. Thank you for it. Stonecreek 04:17, 18 December 2018 (EST)

Noel Streatfeild

I corrected the affected pubs instead of making a variant name. A check of the secondary sources shows it was a database typo. Thanks for finding. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:51, 27 May 2019 (EDT)

Life dates for authors

Hello, I rejected one date of death (1958) for the artist Theo Thomas, since nearly all of his works were published after that year (and much of it seems to have been commissioned). I have put another one for Philip Knobel on hold. Please, do you have a reliable source for the date(s): there is so much hearsay on the internet that we need to know if a source is secure. Thanks in advance, Stonecreek 08:33, 10 July 2019 (EDT)

I rejected the new submission for Thomas. It is really quite impossible that this artist has worked for West German publishers from Latvia after his supposed death in 1958. See the note I added to the artist's summary page. Also, the site you mentioned may also have two artists mixed up, since expressionism's high time was over when 'our' Thomas reached adolescence; afaik there is no city of Döbeln in Latvia, where he is supposed to have died according to the art site. Stonecreek 03:13, 11 July 2019 (EDT)
Well, I couldn't find any detailing source for Knobel's date of death, and rejected the submission without having gained further information. It may well be that you have fallen for an internet hoax again. Stonecreek 07:03, 11 July 2019 (EDT)

Thomas P. Stafford

Thanks for finding the double record! As we have only 1 title under each name, I looked online and he seems to be more popular under Thomas P. Stafford than just Thomas Stafford. Your pseudonym will make the latter his canonical name - while I would think that we want the Thomas P. Stafford name to become the canonical name. What do you think?

In the Shadows of Broadway

You may want to contact StarshipSofa as well because their listing here still says "Mindy In the Shadows of Broadway". Annie 22:08, 8 October 2019 (EDT)

Paul Hugli death date

Hello. Can you provide evidence and/or the source that confirms that 'our' Paul Hugli and the deceased Paul W. Hugli are the same person? Thanks! MagicUnk 13:25, 4 February 2020 (EST)

I've replied over at my talk page. Note that it is best to reply to enquiries posted on your talk page, not over at the talk page of the requester. Thanks! MagicUnk 13:02, 10 February 2020 (EST)

Four Stories Plus

Hello. I've accepted your submission of Four Strories Plus, but I had to make three corrections:

  • You forgot the $-sign. I've added that (I am assuming this collection is priced in USD, yes?)
  • We do not have permission to link to SFSite, so I uploaded a copy instead - you may want to scan the copy you own for a better-quality one (no obligation).
  • Multiple stories in a single publication makes a COLLECTION, not a CHAPBOOK (even though it's just 20 pages)

Final question: what is the exact size of this collection? pb is for 7" × 4.25" (18 cm × 11 cm) or smaller paperbacks. Not sure the dimensions of your collections are larger? Have a look here for details on format. Thanks! MagicUnk 15:46, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

While you are checking the format for MagicUnk, can I bother you to check the spelling of one of the story names: "Boleslaw Szymanski Gets the Ogden Slip" Is the name Boleslaw written with two English l's or is the second one a Polish one (ł). The reprint of the story uses a Polish one so if it is also used here, I can merge them; if a straight English one is used, I can variant. Thanks for checking!
PS: With this number of pages, this may actually fit in as pamphlet (we use that for thin paperbacks which are unbound, staple-bound, or otherwise lightly bound) - then the size won't matter. Thanks in advance. :) Annie 21:01, 6 May 2020 (EDT)


Please don't forget that we are an international DB so "Carrollton, MS" should have been "Carrollton, Mississippi, USA". Also I am putting on hold all updates with no sources until I can confirm them. If you have the sources handy, this will be very helpful :) Annie 21:49, 2 June 2020 (EDT)

All approved, links and sources found and added. Thanks for submitting these! :) Annie 22:36, 2 June 2020 (EDT)

After Hastings

I accepted your addition of After Hastings, but made two changes to match standards:

  • Prices should have the applicable currency symbol as there are multiple currencies in the world.
  • Links to Amazon cover images should have the underscores & everything in between removed. So:
    •,204,203,200_.jpg becomes

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:17, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

John Robert King

Is there a source for making John Robert King an alternate name of J. Robert King? J. Robert King's webpage bibliography (archived) does not list this pub and it's 20 year before the first work under that name. This would seem to be two different people unless you have a definitive source (which we should add to the author notes). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:02, 6 December 2020 (EST)

As the evidence we have says these are different people & there has been no response, I have had to reject the edit. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:01, 11 December 2020 (EST)

Mary Kay Kare

source? Annie 21:35, 8 October 2021 (EDT)

Locus, and sadly many other places. PeteYoung 01:25, 11 October 2021 (EDT)
Yeah - with early October stated on any of the notices I saw. The update I was holding was for 2021-09-00. I’d reject it - someone seems to have put in the correct one in the meantime. Annie 04:29, 11 October 2021 (EDT)

Tails of Wonder

Thanks for adding this magazine issue to the site. Please remember to include the currency marker at the beginning of the price field (in this case "$4.95"). I've updated the issue the price for you and added the cover. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:24, 6 January 2022 (EST)


Hello, concerning your submission, when there's an active PV, contact them on their talk page, and ask them to verify (and correct, if needed) information for you. Much better than leaving a note to the moderators. I've asked Nihonjoe to have a look at the pub record (which I've rejected since nothing was changed). MagicUnk 10:37, 21 January 2022 (EST)

I'll have to check my copy when I get home. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:14, 21 January 2022 (EST)
I've updated the entry. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 11:48, 24 January 2022 (EST)

Don Tumasonis

What is the source for this update? Thanks! Annie 13:37, 4 April 2022 (EDT)

You can always reply here :) Approved and note added here (a note and not a link as the source is not only for the death). Thanks for submitting the update! Annie 18:45, 7 April 2022 (EDT)

Alternate Australias

Unfortunately, I had to reject this submission. The two existing records have associated awards tied to them. For example, if you look at 1827: Napoleon in Australia, the title page shows it was nominated for the 2020 Sidewise. Your edit would have resulted in the award showing up as for the preface.

I assume you were changing these so that contents would be in order. However, order on the edit screen and order on the display screen are not guaranteed to the same. The best way to guarantee display order is to use the page number field. While ebooks do not have pages, the sorting function can still be used by using "|1" for first record, "|2" for second, etc.

I have updated this pub based on your submission. You can see the result, with sorting, here. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:21, 26 July 2022 (EDT)

Argentus 9

Steve, I've contacted you by email @ your sfsite address regarding your October submission to add Argentus #9 to the database, which I wish to assist with. Details in my email, and you can reply here to continue our conversation. Thanks. PeteYoung (talk) 23:31, 12 December 2022 (EST)

Worldcon In Memoriam

Hi, am I right in thinking you run this Twitter account? I just submitted an edit for Juleen Brantingham, but saw you'd already beaten me to it, and a tiny bit of digging showed your name on the relevant bit of the Pemmi-Con site.

Most of the obits I've added have come from whatever has been posted on that Twitter account, so if you're able & willing to make similar edits here, I'll not duplicate the work or tread on your toes. Alternatively, I'm more than happy to to try to replicate the info here if you think that's best, to avoid single points of failure. (Must confess I've been a bit lax on acting on that Twitter feed lately, due to other stuff I've been working on.)

If that Twitter account is your handiwork, many thanks for providing it as a service to fandom! ErsatzCulture (talk) 14:06, 1 August 2023 (EDT)