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Hello, Gengelcox, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Collected Fiction Volume 2: 1926-1930: A Variorum Edition

I accepted the addition of Collected Fiction Volume 2: 1926-1930: A Variorum Edition. To answer your question in the moderator notes, yes, since it contains a novel it should be an omnibus. I have made that change. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:00, 4 August 2018 (EDT)

Thank you! I'm still learning how to contribute, so glad to know I'm understanding some of the terminology. -- Gengelcox 01:52, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

Such as It Is

Hi, we reserve NONFICTION to booklength publications (monographs, essay collections / anthologies etc.), so I accepted your submission but changed the title type to ESSAY (shorter pieces of nonfictional type). But thanks for the correction, Stonecreek 13:16, 10 November 2019 (EST)

Thanks -- I'll try to remember that distinction. Gengelcox 13:34, 10 November 2019 (EST)

Event Horizon (online)

I'm looking to add all the information for the short lived webzine produced by Ellen Datlow and Rob Killheffer in the late 1990s. I just tried to add Cadigan's novella with the long title beginning "The Final Remake..." and I'm not sure I've got how to connect it to the overall publication series, so I'm going to wait for a moderator to let me know what I've done wrong. -- Gengelcox 21:08, 4 February 2020 (EST)

Hi. I think you're referring to a different submission, but I just handled the one for the September issue and had a minor comment. The submission was fine, but for magazines we use a Title Series, not a Publication Series. So I moved that. Then I saw we already have a couple of other issues and have combined them under a single 1998 title record, so I merged it into that as well. The final result is here. --MartyD 07:19, 5 February 2020 (EST)
Thanks, Marty -- that's the help I was looking for, as I knew that something wasn't quite right when I was creating the record. So, because this isn't apparent when I edit the record above, when creating a new publication for Event Horizon in 1998, I should put "Event Horizon - 1998" in the Series under Title? --Gengelcox 09:59, 5 February 2020 (EST)
I just added K. W. Jeter's "Black Nightgown" and it said Unknown for series title -- should I have used "Event Horizon (online)" there instead of "Event Horizon - 1998"? --Gengelcox 13:05, 5 February 2020 (EST)
Magazines are a little tricky. We group the issues using a "Title" series. So if you enter a new issue of this webzine, you should put "Event Horizon (online)" in the Title Series slot, not in the Publication Series slot (The gist of the Title Series vs. Publisher Series distinction is that if a different publisher published another similar work, would it still have the series? If so, it's a title series, if not it's a publisher series). Our magazine handling is further complicated by our practice of tending to group issues by year for anything published frequently. We do that by merging the individual Title records into one -- so for magazines, the issue's actual title on the Publication record does NOT match the title on its associated Title record. Here, that Title is "Event Horizon - 1988". You can do this merging only after the original submission has been accepted. To start the grouping for a new year, say 1989, after the first issue for that year has been accepted, you go back and edit the Title record to the year format and change its date to be just the year with 00 for month and day. E.g., you'd enter and submit "Event Horizon, January 15, 1989" with date 1989-01-15 and Title Series of "Event Horizon (online)", then after submission go to the Title record and change it to "Event Horizon - 1989" and date 1989-00-00. You'd leave the publication associated with the title alone (so it would still show "Event Horizon, January 15, 1989" as the title text and 1989-01-15 as the publication date. When you enter the April issue, after submission instead of editing the April title record, you would simply merge it with that "Event Horizon - 1989" record. Then that title will have two publications associated with it -- the January issue and the April issue. You're free to try any of this; it's all moderated and will get reviewed and fixed up if anything goes awry. --MartyD 06:43, 6 February 2020 (EST)
Thanks for the detailed explanation, Marty! --Gengelcox 11:10, 6 February 2020 (EST)

No Place Like Home

What is the source for the month you are adding to the date? I'm not seeing it on the web page link you're adding. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2020 (EDT)

It's on her bibliography page at Gengelcox 11:13, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
Edit has been accepted. Thanks for finding that. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:06, 13 September 2020 (EDT)
There's a bunch more InCryptid stories on her web site (and listed in that bibliography) that aren't yet in iSFdb. I may try to add them at some point. Gengelcox 10:12, 15 September 2020 (EDT)

Clarksworld, Issue 174

I approved your submission of Clarksworld. I fixed the scan for you; when Amazon has a scan containing a section like "" you need to delete the text between the underlines, for example to "". And you need to correct the title to "Clarksworld, March 2021" and put the issue number in the notes; this is standard practice for magazines in the ISFDB. There are no page numbers for an ebook; the equivalent number of pages can go in the notes as well, as can the number of KB if given. And you should add the ASIN in the space "External IDs" for all ebooks. Bob 20:31, 12 March 2021 (EST)

Thanks, Bob! I'll try and do it correctly for April! Gengelcox 11:57, 13 March 2021 (EST)


Comics and Graphic novels are only eligible if they are from our above threshold authors - think Neil Gaiman :) Frank Miller does not have enough non-graphic titles to get even close to the threshold so this is out. I know we have this one but it is here because it got a Hugo as a non-fiction book (and even that is based on the old-ish rules so it may need removal...). In all cases, it is an exception and does not make the rest of Miller's work eligible.

Let me know if you have any questions/concerns. More on eligibility: excludes comic books explicitly; the ROA explains what is included - point 4 (the threshold) is the only one that overrides the exclusions. Annie 21:56, 21 March 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for the detailed explanation, Annie -- I had assumed it was okay because of the one that was there, but understand the issue. Gengelcox 12:29, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
Thanks for the understanding! :) Annie 12:51, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

Clarkesworld 179

Corrected something in your recent verified pub Clarkesworld 179: S. Qiouyi Lu's interview had the name mispelled as "Li". Cheers. PeteYoung 00:34, 12 August 2021 (EDT)

Thanks, Pete. I noticed it when I submitted it, but forgot to make a note to correct after it was approved. Gengelcox 09:51, 12 August 2021 (EDT)

Forever 74

Can you confirm that the title of the story by Michael Bishop in this issue Forever 74 is titled "To the Land of Snow". There are several sources that give it as "To the Land of Light". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 22:13, 10 November 2021 (EST)

Looking at both the Table of Contents and the first page of the story in the epub version of Forever 74 and in both places it is "To the Land of Snow". Gengelcox 00:13, 11 November 2021 (EST)

A link on your user page

Hello, you have a | at the end of the link to your author page in your User page - may want to edit it out so the link works. Annie 22:15, 30 November 2021 (EST)

Fixed! Ahasuerus 22:17, 30 November 2021 (EST)
Thanks to you both! Gengelcox 23:57, 30 November 2021 (EST)

Clarkesworld, October 2021

Your verified pub Clarkesworld, October 2021 had two content titles of type nonfiction. (The editorial and an essay). I changed the title type for each to essay. Nonfiction is only used for full length books. John Scifibones 09:05, 22 February 2022 (EST)

My apologies! I know the difference and shouldn't be making that mistake. Thanks for correcting that! Gengelcox 12:54, 22 February 2022 (EST)


Just a small reminder that if we already have the story (as is the case with Forever), you can add the empty magazine and then import the stories (as opposed to needing to merge each of them once the magazine is approved). I fixed them here. Thanks for adding it! Annie 10:16, 1 March 2022 (EST)

Annie, I can't find the ImportContent screen to do this. Is this not available to non-moderators? Gengelcox 14:14, 25 March 2022 (EDT)
Doh, I found it. Gengelcox 14:19, 25 March 2022 (EDT)
All set? :) Annie 15:19, 25 March 2022 (EDT)
Yep. Imported stories to latest issue of Forever. You're right; that's much easier. Gengelcox 16:27, 25 March 2022 (EDT)
Just keep an eye for stories reprinted with a new title (even punctuation matter) or under a different author name - these will be added as new stories and varianted to the original (the variant will have the date of the reprint, NOT of the original). Although Forever at least is usually good with reprinting as is :) Annie 16:48, 25 March 2022 (EDT)

Adding an image

Added a cover image to Clarkesworld MLB 09:36, 3 April 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. I'm crap at getting the right images. Gengelcox 23:18, 3 April 2022 (EDT)

Factor Four Magazine, Issue 7, January 2022

A few notes:

  • The title will be only "Factor Four Magazine, January 2022" per our policy. "Issue 7" goes into the notes.
  • The series is "Factor Four Magazine". "Factor Four Magazine - 2022" will be the name of the yearly record when it is created (always a second step)
  • The ISBN field is strictly for ISBNs. 25761773 is an ISSN. I've added the ISSNs to the series here.
  • Moved the link to the overall magazine up on the series level.

I also did the edit to create the yearly record while I was there anyway. The result is here. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for adding it. Annie 13:31, 4 April 2022 (EDT)

Thank you for the notes, Annie. Sorry for all my mistakes. I based the title on the other issues already in the system, so will need to go back and correct them to fit policy. Gengelcox 15:03, 4 April 2022 (EDT)
No worries. Despite the policy, naming in the DB can sometimes be weird :) Annie 19:16, 4 April 2022 (EDT)
Re: the Forever, August 2022 issue. I removed the entry from the Pages field. That is always blank for electronic publications. You may enter a length in the notes. See here. This publication also lacks the original source, please provide one. You have a number of issues in the queue. I will approve them but I will leave the corrections to you. If you have questions, post here and I'll help. John Scifibones 12:16, 25 March 2023 (EDT)
Thanks, John. I've been using the PDF (which I forgot to note that I own when I submitted the Aug entry), which does have page numbers, but I can easily leave those out. Gengelcox (talk) 13:39, 25 March 2023 (EDT)
You may use the PDF page numbers for the content titles. Just don't use the total in the publication's Pages field. Sorry if I wasn't clear. P.S. You're quite welcome. John Scifibones 13:48, 25 March 2023 (EDT)

You on OL; I saw you updated your profile and was wondering about your works on Open Library, Darwin's Daughter being published by Tri Press which isn't what's on ISFDB but rather Blue Agama Books, which ISFDB says also published First Impressions, but that book is on OL as by Blue Agama Associates, and Going Mobile isn't on ISFDB but OL says it was also published by Associates; you did write a short back in '93 with the same title so was this 2022 work a chapbook containing the story? In case you can clear any of this up and fix or add anything to your record, or possibly ask someone to do it for you. --Username (talk) 22:04, 22 March 2023 (EDT)

The history of that is a bit tricky. "Going Mobile" was originally published by Roadkill Press as a limited edition chapbook; in the 90s, I licensed it to Alexandria Digital Literature for reprint sales (early ebooks). Both Darwin's Daughter and First Impressions are self-published. When we first established the "press," we called it Tri Press, but then when I needed to form my own consulting company, I created Blue Agama Associates, and to keep the taxes straight, switched all my publishing (my books, my wife's textbooks, etc.) to Blue Agama. So there are editions out there that say Tri Press, but all the new editions (as they are print on demand) say Blue Agama. --Gengelcox (talk) 22:14, 22 March 2023 (EDT)

Translator credit in your PVed Clarkesworld 186/March 2022

Hi, not sure if you're still active, but just wanted to check in about an edit I've just made. You PVed the ebook pub of this mag, which contains the story Commencement Address. I've just edited that story to fix a missing character at the end of the translator's name, so that it matches the online copy of the story.

I guess it's not inconceivable the ebook does have a typo in, in which case my edit should be reverted and the note tweaked to explain this. If you do ever check that issue again, let me know if it does need undoing. Thanks ErsatzCulture (talk) 16:36, 6 July 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. I double-checked my ebook and it looks like it's Zhu there as well, so great catch! Gengelcox (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2023 (EDT)
No worries, and thanks for checking. ErsatzCulture (talk) 05:48, 7 July 2023 (EDT)



I approved the addition of the book but had to do a few changes:

  • All currencies should have a currency symbol and/or code as we are an international DB
  • Added the ASIN and a cover.
  • For ebooks, the page numbers go only into the notes.

The result is here. Let me know if you have any questions. Annie (talk) 13:11, 8 February 2024 (EST)

Thanks, Annie! I don't add books that often so I'm a bit rusty when I do. Gengelcox (talk) 13:29, 8 February 2024 (EST)
No worries. The ASIN is needed so that our robot does not find/submit the book again - in case you wonder. Plus it gives us an identifier. Thanks for adding it! :) Annie (talk) 13:34, 8 February 2024 (EST)