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The Long ARM of Gil Hamilton

Unfortunately, I had to reject your new publication request. Due to how the ISFDB software works, this would have created a bunch of duplicate records (one for the publication and one for each story in the publication). The "Add New ..." links are for adding publications that don't already exist in the database. Instead, when entering a new publication of an existing record, you should select an existing publication and use the "Clone This Pub" option instead (see Help:Screen:ClonePub). I have gone ahead and done the cloning based on the information in your proposed edit. The new publication can be found here. Please check it, make any necessary edits, and then verify it.

Thanks; looks good except that the title page has Arm rather than ARM. Confusingly, that is followed by a table of contents and then a secondary title page which uses ARM. Let me know if I should make that edit and I'll verify it either way. AliHarlow 15:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

We enter it as specified on the primary title page. So if it's "Arm" there, than the publication title should be changed (please add a note stating the title page uses "Arm" in the notes section to eliminate future questions). However, don't change the title record as most publications use "ARM". We don't variant titles based on case so it's fine if the title record and publication record have different cases. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your recent submissions

Hello, I've approved your recent submissions (for Niven & Emerson). As your comments seem to indicate that you own the books, please consider the idea to become primary verifier (PV) for them. It will just indicate to future users of the database that at last one contributor (you in this case) has the book and can vouch for the data. You can do this by clicking on the "Verify This Pub" link under the "Editing Tools" menu. Hauck 17:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm doing that now. I understood that I should wait for pending edits to be approved before doing so.

In fact, no. The change of verification status is not moderated. Thanks. Hauck 17:35, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Robert Jordan submissions

Hello, thanks for adding some new printings! I'd just like to mention that we don't credit arists of back cover art in the artist's field, it's really only for the cover art, so I have dropped the second artist (which you gave in addition as Daryl K. Sweet). If you want to enclose this art this would be to subsumed as interior art: bc (for back cover) would be the right page denomination.

Thanks.

I have put the 2003 submission for Crossroads of Twilight on hold. Is there any statement of year, month or printing on the copyright page? It does look very much like this publication. Thanks for checking, Stonecreek 14:40, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Copyright page says:

An Orbit Book

First published in Great Britain by Orbit 2003

This edition published in 2003

I would assume your suggestion is a later reprint since it's dated 2004, but I could be wrong. --AliHarlow 19:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll approve your submission (adding your notes) and see if I can find something more on the publication date. Stonecreek 20:56, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

According to Amazon.co.uk, this paperback edition was first published 2003-11-06. You can use this as the date of the publication as long as you note the source in the record. This will place it correctly among the other editions. Hope this helps. Mhhutchins 21:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I also have found a source (even more reliable than Amazon) and updated the publication to November 2003 with an accompanying note. Stonecreek 04:23, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. --AliHarlow 08:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

The Saliva Tree by Aldiss

Your submission to add a new publication of this title is very similar to this one. The only difference seems to be the title. I will leave a message on the primary verifier of that record to join this discussion to determine if the title given in the current record is correct or not. I will hold your submission pending the results of this discussion. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Mhhutchins 21:59, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Other differences: Cover Art, catalogue number (#10839 vs. #10898), New Zealand price ($0.65 vs. $0.75)--AliHarlow 22:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I had originally linked to the wrong record. Check the link again. Also, the OCLC record you link in the submission is for the 1971 printing, but that can be corrected if we determine yours is a unique edition. Mhhutchins 22:09, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I see. Certainly looks identical. Thanks. --AliHarlow 22:19, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Indeed the two are the same edition. Please move your PV to the old one and I'll delete the duplicate record. My head hurts a lot right now and I think I didn't make myself very clear in answering Michael's query. I added a similar note re the presence/non-presence of Strange on the two title pages. --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Done. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 08:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Enchanters' End Game

I removed the publication date from this record as the printing on the number line (and the price) would indicate a printing much later than 1985. When a date isn't given, and there is no secondary source, enter 0000-00-00 into the date field which will be displayed as "date unknown". Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Castle of Wizardry

I'm holding your submission to add a third printing for this title. Though, because of it, I was able to determine that this record was incorrectly priced. It has since been corrected. If that record matches your copy, please do a primary verification of it and cancel the submission. If it doesn't match, let me know and I'll accept the submission. Thanks again. Mhhutchins 15:41, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks; it does indeed now match. --AliHarlow 20:12, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

The White Plague

Re this record: if you do a primary verification of a publication record, remove any previous note of the source that doesn't apply. So if any of the data is from Locus1, then change the note to indicate which data is secondary-sourced. If none, then remove the note entirely. Thanks. (BTW, you're doing a great job. Keep up the good work.) Mhhutchins 21:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Done. --AliHarlow 21:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

The Runes of Earth

I accepted the submission adding this record, and deleted the non-verified record that was identical except for the author credit. Because the author credit was different, I had to unmerge it from the original title and re-merge it with the one that credits without the middle initial. I also did the same for the first UK hardcover edition which was mistakenly entered with the middle initial. Mhhutchins 00:01, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks. --AliHarlow 00:03, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

BTW, you can use the Amazon.co.uk publication date of 2005-10-03, which will place the record among the other publications. (That was th date of the original record which I deleted.) Mhhutchins 00:08, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Done. --AliHarlow 00:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

The Gap Into Power

Re this record: shouldn't this be the 2nd printing based on the number line? Mhhutchins 00:11, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Umm. Yes! --AliHarlow 00:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

"After the Gap: Reflections on Storytelling"

Re this record: what was the source for publication date? The first publication we have of it is for the August 1999 reprint. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 00:39, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Copyright page of 437275 states: New foreword copyright © Stephen R. Donaldson 1997 and the essay itself is signed off "February 1997". Plus, of course, although 437275 is an undated reprint, we do know it's a reprint of an 1997 edition. --AliHarlow 01:10, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

We don't use either the copyright date or the writing date as the date of the title. A record is dated by its first publication. I'll update the record to show the writing and copyright date, but change the title date to 1999. If an earlier publication shows up, we can always change it. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Horses of the North

I zeroed out the publication date field of this record because of your note indicating it was a third printing. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.--AliHarlow 21:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

A Woman of the Horseclans

Can you confirm that the last page of text of this novel is 197? Both BLIC and OCLC give the page count as 196, but its possible that the last page wasn't numbered. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:39, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Page 197 is unnumbered and is an Epilogue "Four long years after that great gathering, roving riders from..." --AliHarlow 19:30, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Great. That explains the discrepancy. Librarians, for no obvious reason I can determine, ignore any unnumbered pages at the end of a book. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Macroscope

Are you certain your copy isn't the same as this record? The only difference appears to be the catalog number/ISBN. If a record has both, we record the ISBN in the ISBN/catalog# field and the catalog number in the Note field. Please look again. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:31, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

There is no ISBN number (if there was, then Sphere's normal scheme would make it 0722111762) and it has different cover artwork. --AliHarlow 09:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll accept the submission, even though there's a conflict about the edition statement. One of them must be a later printing, and the publisher failed to state it. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:38, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Rogue Moon publisher

I changed "Coronet / Hodder Fawcett" to "Coronet Books / Hodder Fawcett (UK)" in Rogue Moon to match the publisher entry we already had in the database. There are only two books (yours, plus one other with no primary verifier). We're not very consistent about the inclusion or omission of "Books" (search publishers for Hodder), and I don't think the "(UK)" qualification is particularly needed. You could ask on the Community Portal if anyone has any objections to renaming it to "Coronet / Hodder Fawcett" (and maybe removing "Books" from "Coronet Books / Hodder & Stoughton (Australia)" at the same time). --MartyD 13:28, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I have no view on the correct form for the publisher entry so I'm quite happy to leave it like that. --AliHarlow 13:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Masters of Flux & Anchor clone

It looks like your proposed submission for an undated 5th printing of Masters of Flux & Anchor would duplicate this entry. See what you think. Thanks. --MartyD 13:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I've cancelled the submission and verified 282205. --AliHarlow 14:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Beaver / Arrow

Yours is the first record to use this combination of publishers. How is the publisher given on the book's title page? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Title page states "BEAVER BOOKS", Copyright page states: "A Beaver Book" "Published by Arrow Books Limited" "20 Vauxhall Road..." "An imprint of Random Century Group", Spine has "ARROW". --AliHarlow 19:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

When there's such a wide variety of publisher names given, we either usually go with the title page credit, or go with the one that's considered the canonical name (the most records in the database). In this case it's both. I've added a note showing the differing credits. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

The Evolution Man

I found a source for the publication month of this edition and linked it in the record's Note field. Mhhutchins 19:24, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you. --AliHarlow 19:26, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

The Bull and the Spear artist

See this. That's probably enough to go on to give an artist credit to your newly submitted The Bull and the Spear, if you want to. --MartyD 12:46, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Change submitted. --AliHarlow 12:50, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

The Warrior Lives

Can you confirm that New American Library isn't given as the publisher of this edition? It would normally state that below the Roc logo on the title page. If not, maybe on the copyright page. (I ask because you've changed a record which was primary verified by another editor.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:15, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Happy to confirm. Title page says [ROC logo] "A ROC BOOK". Copyright page says "ROC" "Published by the Penguin Group" ... "The Warrior Lives previously appeared in an NAL Books edition." "First Roc Printing, April, 1990" "10 ... 1" ... [ROC logo] "Roc is a trademark of Penguin Books USA Inc." Spine and front cover say ROC. The only mention of NAL or New American Library that I could find is in the line I quoted above which was why I deleted it. --AliHarlow 20:16, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Works for me. This was early in the imprint's history. The later books said "Published by New American Library". Mhhutchins 20:50, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Cards of Grief

The submission updating the page count field of this record was accepted. It's a good idea to record in the Note field the reason for the extra unnumbered pages. Also, are you certain there's a page "xii". The OCLC record only gives "x" roman-numbered pages. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:08, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Pages vii-x are "Archivist's report"; page [xi] is an in-universe TOC; page [xii] is blank followed by page 1; page [194] is blank; page [195] is a table (Time Line). If you confirm what the page count should be, I'll correct it and add a suitable note (or do it yourself, if that's easier). Thanks. --AliHarlow 22:27, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

We only use the highest roman-numbered page (the same method as BLIC and OCLC. The Library of Congress also uses this method, but they don't have a record for this British publication.). The last two pages are fine as entered but should be noted. This keeps the anal-retentive (like me) from bugging you about it. :) Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:15, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I've updated the record. Mhhutchins 02:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks. --AliHarlow 07:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Masterplay

Added scan for your verified here. Hauck 16:09, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said

Added cover artist credit to your verified Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said based on the verified first Panther edition which used the same cover and credited the artist. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. --AliHarlow 21:56, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Men Martians & Machines

Found and added a decent scan to [this] record. Missing was the catalog #, which I found in Tuck and there is a signature on the cover "Richards". Of course if I got the wrong cover .... ;-)) --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks. --AliHarlow 10:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Journey into Space: The World in Peril 3

Hi. I don't understand what your intention is with this publication and/or title, so I have put your submissions for importing and deleting contents on hold. Please explain; maybe we can work out what is right, because principally it isn't a good idea to handle container titles (in this case the NOVEL) in this way - although there are cases where it is. Thanks, Stonecreek 19:01, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

The database has the title as the first novel in the series. This is incorrect; it should be the third novel. I therefore imported the correct title and deleted the incorrect one. --AliHarlow 19:05, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I wonder how this came into being in the first place. (Submissions approved) Stonecreek 09:34, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

The Ring of Allaire

Please confirm the price you've given in this record for the 1982 second printing. It is much higher than books published by Del Rey in that year. Perhaps that's the price in Canada? Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 17:35, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I can confirm that $3.75 is the price on the front cover and encoded in the barcode on the back cover. It might be a Canadian price, but the copyright page says "Manufactured in the United States of America" which led me to believe that it wasn't. The copyright page does make it clear that the book was published in both the USA and Canada at the same time. Are there any other clues I can look for? --AliHarlow 18:00, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I know of nothing other than what is visibly stated in the publication. Perhaps the copyright page is incorrect and this is a later printing. We'll leave it as is until something else comes along. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I have a second submission for an import to (or from) this title, but am unable to either reject or accept it because of a Python error. I can't say what caused the error. Please cancel it from your end and try again. Mhhutchins 17:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

That was to add a map. I've cancelled it and re-submitted. --AliHarlow 18:00, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Translator credit

We don't credit translators in the author field. Eventually, we hope to have a dedicated field for this role. Until then, only record translation credits in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. In this case, however, the text consists of not only the poem translated into blank verse, but interposed with commentary. I'll add a note to make that clear. --AliHarlow 18:04, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

A question: what is the collaborative essay on page 67? Mhhutchins 18:06, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

That's the start of the translated inferno with commentary. --AliHarlow 18:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The essay should be credited to Musa alone, since the record is for his commentary, not for the original work. Musa's translation of the work should be credited to the original author, and that is title reference record (currently unpaged in the visible record.) Mhhutchins 18:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for being thick, but I'm not getting that. The translation with inline commentary runs from page 67 to the end. There is no separate commentary to credit to Musa which is why I credited the translation+commentary to them both. Please advise. --AliHarlow 18:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I have to assume from your description that the "inline commentary" was written by Musa. That would be an ESSAY and should be credited only to Musa. The actual work by Dante which was translated by Musa should be credited to Dante alone, as I can only assume that he and Musa didn't work together to create the commentary. :) I have updated the record and hopefully you'll be able to visualize where I'm coming from. Mhhutchins 18:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Funky! I didn't know you could have two titles overlapping like that. Yeah, that looks right. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 18:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Sources for month/day of publication

If an ISFDB record has a day or month of publication which isn't stated in the book itself, the odds are pretty good that the data came from either Amazon (com or co.uk) or Locus1. In the case of this publication, it was the latter. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for finding it. I'll try and do my own research in future. --AliHarlow 19:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Same situation with the artist credit for this record. Unfortunately, there was a time when editors (and moderators by default) weren't required to provide the source for unstated data. There are still thousands of records with unsourced data in the database, which hopefully will be cleaned up over time, thanks to editors like you. Keep up the good work. Mhhutchins 19:45, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Archon

I accepted the removal of Archon! from Archon, but that left a publication credited to Stuart Gordon associated with a title by Richard Gordon. From what I could find, it seemed the Stuart credit is correct, so I fixed the title to be credited that way (to match your publication), and then I made the result a variant of the original Archon!. If that is not all as it should be, please fix up or let me know. Thanks. --MartyD 08:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

If the book is by Richard Gordon, then the publication's author needs to be changed to Richard Gordon, and the title's author likewise needs to be changed to Richard Gordon. You can "Edit this Pub" to change both at the same time. We may have to redo the variant (I forget if editing the content title will delete the old title and add a new one or will change that existing title in place when the author is modified). --MartyD 08:22, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks; I've done the change of author. --AliHarlow 08:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

All set. The variant stayed, so I think it should look the way you want now. --MartyD 10:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 11:03, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Heretics of Dune

Please look at this record and see if it matches your copy. Don't let the link to Amazon's image file be a factor in this determination. They often change images to more recent printings. If otherwise it is identical to the one for which you've created a new submission, please cancel that submission and update this record with the correct image. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. --AliHarlow 17:09, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Price on The Vanishing Tower

I accepted your clone of The Vanishing Tower, but the price came through as just "£". I couldn't quite tell from the notes if you meant it to be £1.50 or £1.95. Would you please review and fix? Thanks. --MartyD 09:20, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. That was what I intended since the original price is obscurred by the overprinted £1.95. I would guess that it is £1.50 since that's what's encoded in the barcode, but I thought it better to leave it until a second verifier can fill in the blank. Happy to change it to either £1.50 or £1.95 if that's preferable. --AliHarlow 09:50, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Count Brass

I'm holding your submission to add a new record for the March 1973 printing of this title by Mayflower. There's a virtually identical one in the database, the only difference I can see is the other prices. In cases like this, it is best to contact a Primary Verifier of the record to see if there could have been an entry error before making a submission to create a new record. Editor Rtrace is still active so he should be able to check his copy. Mhhutchins 18:29, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I've just got back to London leaving the book with my main collection in Copeland so I'm a little hampered. (I should be back up in Copeland in July). For my own sanity I'm recording of the prices on the original record as "UK 30p, Canada $1.25, Australia & New Zealand $1.00". I've left a note for User:Rtrace as suggested. --AliHarlow 21:48, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Ron has confirmed that the "other" prices were for a reprint so if you can pull my "other" prices out of my submission, I'll add them to the existing record. Otherwise, I'll make a note for myself and do it when I'm next in Copeland. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 07:05, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Cover art credit for The Champion of Garathorm

Can you confirm the spelling of the artist credit given in this publication? The earlier printings are credited to "Haberfield" instead of "Habberfield". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 15:35, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Sounds likely, I've made a note to check in due course. Thanks. --AliHarlow 19:41, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Since it may be a while before you're able to chek, I'm going to make your record as entered into a variant. If this turns out to be incorrect, let a moderator know and they can assist you in reversing a variant. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:18, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Just to note that it is "Bob Habberfield" on the back cover and no mention elsewhere so no further changes are required. --AliHarlow 05:15, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

The forever man

Hi, could you please check the cover artist for this publication. I expect it should be Mark Salwowski instead of Mark Slowaski, at least that's what this bookseller lists, and Salwowski covered more Sphere Books. Thanks. Horzel 21:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Chances are, it's a typo on the original book. In any event, I've made a note to check it when I next have access to my main collection (probably July). Thanks for noticing. --AliHarlow 22:57, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I can confirm that the book credits "Mark Slowaski". I'll see if the moderators think the evidence is strong enough to make it a variant. --AliHarlow 05:28, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for checking! Horzel 12:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Replay

Hello, can you have a look as your verified pub ? It's probably not the first grafton pb (which is likely this one as per price) but may be identical to that one. Thanks. Hauck 05:41, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm very happy to look when I'm next in Copeland, but I'm not quite sure what I would be looking for. I agree it's possible that they are the same printing, but I can't see any way that I can tell. Perhaps it would be better to ask one of the verifiers of 27833 if the printing history in their printing matches? If the printing histories match, then either this is actually a second printing (presumably in 1988 with a new cover) and we haven't seen the 1990 third printing yet or Grafton counted the overseas edition as the second printing and this is the third printing with a new cover and no mention of the re-printing on the copyright page. Both options appear equally (im)plausible to me. --AliHarlow 06:45, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

In fact I was thinking along the lines of mainly changing the pub date (either to 0000 or to 1990). Hauck 05:17, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

A Mirror for Observers

Added better cover scan to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 09:35, 12 May 2014 (UTC).

Thanks. --AliHarlow 05:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Daughter of Regals

Can you confirm that "Gilden-Fire" is not included in this edition of the collection? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 04:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I can indeed; apologies for the delay while I mislaid the book.

Lloyd Biggle, Jr(.)

Hello. I was wondering about the correct spelling of this author's name in this edition of All the Colours of Darkness, which you verified. On my copy, there is no period after Jr (and there shouldn't be, as r is the last letter of Junior). I would be in favour of suppressing the period, and varianting the name. Thanks for your opinon about this. Linguist 09:29, 29 May 2014 (UTC).

Answered on Don's talk page. --AliHarlow 12:04, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. Linguist 12:50, 29 May 2014 (UTC).

The Day after Judgement

Uploaded new cover scan (better definition) for your verified. Thanks. Linguist 09:42, 29 May 2014 (UTC).

Thanks. --AliHarlow 11:52, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I add the other prices to the verified

I add the other prices to the verified [1].Don Erikson 18:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. --AliHarlow 23:55, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

The Cosmic Puppets

Hello. I have just added some notes to your verified, and noticed that the publisher entry is “Panther / Grafton”. My own copy is “Grafton / Collins (UK)”. Either the first entry is an error, of these are two distinct editions. Could you please check this point ? Thanks a lot. Linguist 09:58, 10 June 2014 (UTC).

Hi. You're right; I can find no mention of Panther. It probably came from Locus. I've submitted a change to simply "Grafton" which seems the most appropriate to me with a note to the moderator with the full details so they can chose a variant such as "Grafton / Collins (UK)" if they think that preferable. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 17:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

The Dark Design

Hello again. Just to tell you I have expanded the notes for your verified, and uploaded the correct cover scan (the previous one was from the 1979 edition). Thanks. Linguist 09:39, 22 June 2014 (UTC).

Lovely. Thanks. --AliHarlow 10:54, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Pavane

Added a few notes to your verified, and uploaded a new cover scan (whole wraparoud). Thanks. Linguist 10:11, 12 July 2014 (UTC).

Thanks. --AliHarlow 21:42, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The Furies

Uploaded a new cover scan of this one (larger, better definition). Thanks. Linguist 10:21, 12 July 2014 (UTC).

Thanks. --AliHarlow 21:44, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Capricorn Games

Added some notes to your verified, and uploaded a new cover scan (correct dimension, better definiton). Thanks. Linguist 08:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC).

Thanks. --AliHarlow 06:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Orbit / Futura

It appears that Orbit Books was an imprint of Futura Publications (at the time these books were published). So I have reversed the order which you've entered in the last few submissions, including this record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:02, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Should I always use Orbit / Futura in preference to Futura / Orbit or is there a criteria that I can use for deciding which is appropriate for a particular book? --AliHarlow 18:07, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is no standard about publisher identification. I normally use the title page when there are several different forms of the publisher name credited in a book. If your book gives "An Orbit Book" and "Futura Publications" anywhere in the book, I would suggest using "Orbit / Futura" as that is the more common usage. There are no records for "Futura / Orbit" in the database. But, there are about a dozen or so verified records for "Orbit Book / Futura Publications", and the two publishers should probably be merged. But since they're primary verified and it might be hard to establish a consensus, I usually go with the one with the most records. Mhhutchins 18:54, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Noted. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 19:00, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

The Invasion of the Body Snatchers variant

Hi. See your submission that I have on hold. It would make a new parent that seems to be identical to the existing title. I'm not sure what you were trying to do. Thanks. --MartyD 11:46, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Never mind. I figured it out. :-) --MartyD 11:57, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

The Lemurian Stone

I'm not sure what you're doing with the two submissions to clone and remove contents from this record. I've placed the submissions on hold. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

The publication was incorrectly entered in the database as by "Stephen Hickman". The book uses "Stephen F. Hickman" throughout. I changed the author on the publication record, but we also need to change the text record to match. As it happens there already is a text record for "Stephen F. Hickman" so we just need to import this one and remove the old one. I think the old one will then be orphaned and so will need removing (and since the correct text record is currently a variant of the old one a bit of fixup will be needed). I was going to leave that bit until I got this bit right. Hope that very convoluted explaination makes some sense! --AliHarlow 08:13, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I understand your intentions, but the method you used creates another set of problems. In these cases, it's best to break the variant relationship using the "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" function and entering "0" in the title record field. Then correct the credits of each title record (and merge if necessary, as in this case), and then make the new record into a variant of one crediting the author's canonical name. I'll do that for you. Thanks for the explanation. Mhhutchins 14:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks. --AliHarlow 15:09, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Viking Books

I accepted the submission changing the publisher data of this record, but it's my understanding that Viking Books was a British paperback publisher which had no connection with the American publisher, The Viking Press. Are you certain that the publisher is stated as you've changed the record? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:31, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, "Viking Press" yes. Title page has "Viking Press" over "36 Great Russell Street . London, W.C.1", copyright page has "A Viking Novel" ... "This edition, complete and unabridged, published in England by" over "Viking Press" over "36 Great Russell Street · London, W.C.1", front cover has "A Viking" over "Novel", back cover has "A Viking" over "Science Fiction" over "Novel". --AliHarlow 23:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Piers Anthony - Politician

I replaced the Amazon image with a scan from my copy for [this pub]. Doug 15:18, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Piers Anthony - Juxtaposition

I replaced the Amazon image with a personal scan for this pub. Doug 16:13, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Piers Anthony Pretender

I just replaced the Amazon image (for the $4.99 publication) with a scanned copy for this pub. Hope this works for you. Doug 18:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Piers Anthony Race Against Time

I have replaced the Amazon image in this pub with one I have scanned. Doug 21:00, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

All four look good to me. Thanks. --AliHarlow 06:40, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Jack L. Chalker Charon: A Dragon at the Gate

Added an image to Jack L. Chalker's Charon: A Dragon at the Gate. You are listed as Primary2 reference. Doug 02:33, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks. --AliHarlow 06:51, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Alan Dean Foster's The Day of Dissonance

Replaced the Amazon image of Alan Dean Foster's The Day of Dissonance with one I scanned. You are listed as Primary3 reference. Doug 14:17, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

New image for Alan Dean Foster's The Moment of the Magician

Replaced the Amazon image of Alan Dean Foster's The Moment of the Magician with one I scanned. You are listed as Primary4 reference. Doug 15:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

The Revenge of the Rose

You have verified this first printing of the Grafton publication of "The Revenge of the Rose". I have verified another firsting printing by the same publisher. Could you please double-check your copy of the book whether it really has a number line that indicates a first printing? Forgive me for being suspicious, but some of the data in your pub seems to point to a later printing:

Both the British price and the New Zealand price are higher
Your book has the statement "This edition published by Grafton 1992", which makes it look as if you have a later printing which refers to the 1992 first printing

If your book really has a first printing number line, is there an indication where the book was printed? I also notice that my book has a Canadian price, what about yours? Finally, I uploaded a cover scan that you might be interested in using for your pub. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube ^Talk 22:07, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. The New Zealand price was a typo and should have read $15.95 (change submitted). I've also used your cover scan; thanks. The number line does indeed indicate a first printing (9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1). The British price is clearly significantly higher. There is no Canadian price on my copy. It was printed in Glasgow (by HarperCollinsManufacturing). Since the two books are clearly different printings/editions they appear to be entered correctly in the database. I'd be happy to add a note to the £4.99 printing pointing to the £3.99 printing, if you think that would be a useful addition. --AliHarlow 20:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I think the information that we verified our pubs are in fact different printings is useful and should be recorded in the pub notes. I have already updated the notes of my verified pub (submission pending approval), but feel free to add a similar note to your record as well. Thanks for your help with this, Patrick -- Herzbube ^Talk 14:25, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Alan Dean Foster's Nor Crystal Tears

Replaced the Amazon image of Alan Dean Foster's Nor Crystal Tears with one I scanned. You are listed as Primary2 reference. Doug 18:19, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

All three look good to me. Thanks. --AliHarlow 20:32, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Cover artist for Alas, Babylon

Updating the cover artist for your verified version of Alas, Babylon, to Robert Hunt (artist). Apparently plain old Robert Hunt is someone else (a writer). BungalowBarbara 04:04, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll take your word for it :) Thanks. --AliHarlow 09:37, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Terry Pratchett's The Last Continent

Replaced the Amazon image of Terry Pratchett's The Last Continent with one I scanned. You are listed as Primary reference. Doug 19:07, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Terry Pratchett's Jingo

Replaced the Amazon image of Terry Pratchett's Jingo with one I scanned. You are listed as Primary2 reference. Doug 19:21, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Terry Pratchett's Feet of Clay

Replaced the Amazon image of Terry Pratchett's Feet of Clay with one I scanned. Also added content of the heraldry images. You are listed as Primary reference. Doug 13:00, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Terry Pratchett's Pyramids

Replaced the Amazon image of Terry Pratchett's Pyramids with one I scanned. You are listed as Primary3 reference. Doug 14:04, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

All four look good. Thanks. --AliHarlow 21:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Cover art for The Sleeping Sorceress

Hi, I accidentally approved the addition of cover artist Jan Parker for this book. Can you verify this addition? Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 04:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the book is in London and I am in Copeland. I've added it to my todo list. Chances are, however, that there is no cover artist listed on the book itself so it might be worth asking the editor for their source while it is still fresh in their mind. --AliHarlow 09:56, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Actually now I come to look at the book itself I see that there is a signature visible on the front cover so I've submitted a change to add a note of that. --AliHarlow 07:37, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Legacy of Heorot

Added the maps to the contents of [this] edition. --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:43, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. --AliHarlow 10:44, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Men, Martians and Machines

I added a note about the title to this verified pub. Also added the full name of the artist (was Richards) from the Artist Signature Images. Thanks, --Willem 11:21, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Lovely. --AliHarlow 12:23, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

The Duchess of Kneedeep

Added a cover image to The Duchess of Kneedeep MLB 01:39, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Runespear cover artist

Looking at a copy Runespear, I see that the cover art is credited to Jim Warren on the copyright page. Would you update this record? If you prefer I can do it. DStandsh 19:45, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I'll check when I get back next week, but if you have a copy of the book you should do a primary verification. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 07:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I have a copy on hand. I can verify as Primary (Transient). I've submitted the update for cover artist. DStandsh 16:36, 4 December 2014 (UTC)