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Hello, Wcouvillier, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Abaculus 2007

Hello, I'm sorry to have to reject your submission. It would have created a new record for an-already existing one here. As it seems that you intend to add the contents, just go at publication page the same one and use the Edit This Pub link on the left. This will allow you to enter the contents. Note that we regularize the names of the authors with a space between initials so "W.D. Wilcox" (that would create a "new" author) will have to be entered as "W. D. Wilcox" which is already known to us. Thanks for contributing. Hauck 08:53, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

The Best of Heroic Fantasy Quarterly: Volume 1, 2009-2011

Hello, I've approved your submission but had to make some changes to conform to our standards:

  • Changed "J.S. Bangs" to "J. S. Bangs" (see above).
  • Added cover artist as per amazon look inside.
  • As the poem by "W. E. Couvillier" is likely the reason of this update, I've supposed that it's a pseudonym of "Willis Couvillier" and made the necessary changes.

I'm surprised that you set the length of Shadows From Firelight to "short story", at nearly 30 pages, it's more likely a novelette. BTW I'm curious to know where the lengths you gave come from.Hauck 12:25, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

I have corrected the title and (without a comment on your part) set the length to novelette again. Without your input we are bound to get along with what is (or seems) the most likely. Stonecreek 07:54, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Fifth Voyage update

Hello, as this title appears in a primary verified publication, I had to put your submission on hold until you ask the primary verifier for clearance of this step. This is required per ISFDB etiquette. (Most often, it will be no problem, but the item was initially verified as a piece of shortfiction). Thanks, Stonecreek 15:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

I have rejected your submission as per the discussion on the primary verifier's talk page. Stonecreek 07:52, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


STONECREEK:

Regarding my suggested change to the work "Fifth Voyage", I cannot see how the adjustment can be rejected when I, under my byline of W. C. Roberts, am the author of the work and really do know what I wrote. It is a poem.

Not trying to violate any site rules or anything, but when an author comes around to update labels on their work,, that probably should be considered primary.

There's probably a misunderstanding between you. There is in this publication, a poem page 45 and an afterword page 136 which were wrongly given exactly the same title. Now the second item have been dismabiguated but it's probably that one that you wanted to change to a POEM. Hauck 14:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

I see it there now, the poem listed before the essay. My misunderstanding. My apologies.

Apex Magazine, December 2010

Apex Magazine, December 2010 already exists in the database. As such, I have rejected your addition. Apex is entered as an ebook magazine as it is sold as an ebook. A webzine would be something only on the web. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Jame's Gunn's Ad Astra

I have your addition of Jame's Gunn's Ad Astra on hold. Webzines are only included (per our Rules of Acquisition if it is a SFWA eligible market or has been shortlisted for a major award. I don't see that this one qualifies. Please let me know if I'm missing something. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:19, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't appear to be either. It is a sad thing, it's a quality offering and it would be good to have the work's that it publishes added to the database. It is (as quoted from their "about page"), "We are a volunteer organization inspired by the Center for the Study of Science Fiction at the University of Kansas. We maintain an ongoing partnership with the CSSF’s educational outreach program, AboutSF." As such, it is very much embodies the genre. Wcouvillier 14:36, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Polu Texni submissions

Hello, as per our policy only items that "has been shortlisted for a major award." are listed for websites. Can you confirm that all the texts in your recent submissions are in this case? Thanks. Hauck 08:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Nope, totally unsure - however the full contents of earlier postings haven't, either - merely a single poem has been nominated for the Rhysling awards. And there is only one Polu Texni with no monthly issues - it is an ongoing websine with dated postings. All of the individual months can be easily copied to the earliest month version with the award notation and it would actually be more accurate.Wcouvillier 12:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
In this case, I'll reject the submissions as we do not index websites (bar the exception cited in the help). Note that I've cleaned up the contents of the "issues" that are present in the db. Hauck 12:52, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Scifaikuest

Hello, as you correctly surmised, your submission is nearly useless without heavy doctoring. Because you're a new contributor, I'm going to make the changes but I strongly advise you to study the result and our help pages (see on top of this page) carefully before submitting again. The following needed corrections :

  • the title of the record should reflect the name and the publication date of the issue entered (if not so, all issues would be named Scifaikuest), I've set the title to Scifaikuest, August 2009.
  • the publication date that we use is the stated date so I've changed the date to simply "2009-08".
  • in order to be put in this grid, the title should be put in the correct title series (here "Scifaikuest").
  • I've set the binding to "pb" as per other issues, as you're stating that you own the publication, you should be able to determinate its format.
  • "1558-9730" is not a valid ISBN (it looks more like an ISSN), I've deleted it.
  • I've deleted the content of "PubSeries" where you put the publication date.
  • I've changed the author of The Staff of Scifaikuest from "publisher" to simply "uncredited".
  • I've changed the type of Editorial from EDITOR (used only for a whole magazine record) to ESSAY and disambiguated it.
  • I've regularized "Aurelio Rico Lopez III" to "Aurelio Rico Lopez, III" as per our help pages if not, that would have created a "new" author.

The result is here.Hauck 14:29, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Thank you. I will edit the entry to re-add the many poems that had been deleted from the error I got (no two editor entry). I have another 2009, and all of 2013 and 2014 issues I can get in, and I'll use this as a template guide for those.

I have added in three interior advertisements. I wasn't sure how that is to be done, or if they were even necessary. Thanks again. 

Wcouvillier 17:32, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
For the August 2013 issue I had to make some amendments. In particular, I removed the essay MY FAVES, as it seems that it isn't eligible for ISFDB (advertisement). If you think that it is eligible because it's not, please re-enter it, but we still would have the title normalized to 'My Faves' and the author as 'uncredited'. Thanks, Stonecreek 06:56, 16 September 2017 (EDT)
'My Faves' is essentially the same as 'My Favorite Poem'; whereas the 'My Favorite Poem' is an ongoing article by the editor, the 'My Faves' here is from the publisher, and not an advertisement. I list those in the notes field now. Wcouvillier 12:20, 16 September 2017 (EDT)

Scifaikuest, August 2009

Hello,

I accepted your update but had to do a few changes

  • Aurelio Rico Lopez III name is normalized to Aurelio Rico Lopez, III
  • All non-fiction entries were changed to ESSAY. NONFICTION is only used for the complete NONFICTION books. Short non fiction articles, essays and so inside of other books and magazines are recorrded as ESSAY.
  • Added a note about the non-normalization of the titles. Usually we normalize all titles based on the section called "Case" here but when the non-standard capitalization is an author choice, it is preserved. I do not have the magazine so I assume it was author choice (being poetry) but if you think it is editor choice, they will need to be normalized. We have an editor that specializes in the poetry magazines so I will ask them to stop by and post an opinion.

The following updates still need to be done

  • Can you verify the names of Caherine Olivia and L. MadHildebrandt? Can you make sure there is no typo in their names (they are a bit unusual)?
  • semi's poems here need to be varianted. Let me know if you need assistance (or explanation) doing that.
  • Can you confirm if t. santitoro is actually the editor Teri Santitoro? If so, the names will need to be pseudonymed. Also - are all the small letters as printed?

I also added the entry to the 2009 title series (we keep all magazines from 1 year under a single title).

Thanks! Annie 19:10, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Those two names are victims of typing errors:
Caherine is Catherine
L. MadHildebrandt is L. Mad Hildebrandt
Yes, the t. santitoro is the Editor. She picks her favorite poem from the issue and posts it with that form of her name.
I typed them in as they were in the magazine, lower case. upper case, as they were published.
Thanks! Wcouvillier 19:52, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
I will fix the two names and pseudonym the editor. Thanks for checking!
Suspected so on the titles. I will try to find if that is an editor or author choice.
Thanks again for checking Annie 19:56, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
One more thing - if the t. santitoro is a regular feature and will appear in more than one issue, we need to disambiguate the title of the column (by adding the title of the issue in the title). Can you confirm if it is indeed a regular column? Annie 20:01, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
I've just added another release of the magazine for 2013, and she does have the feature in that one as well. I would have to say yep, it is a regular feature. I'll remember to add the issue on the next time I enter one - I have a 2014 ready to go, as soon as time permits. Wcouvillier 10:24, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
I changed it in this issue: See here. Annie 11:54, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
Thanks! As a side observation, I went to Teri's author page and there are a few of the My Favorite Poem sections already listed. I suppose that the person (people) that had entered those issues just used her full name; me being a purist, enter it as it's written. Wcouvillier 13:04, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
As written is the correct approach so you are doing fine. I am going to mention that to the other editor that enters those to see if that had changed in the issues they had entered. Annie 14:22, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
On a very separate note - when you click on edit on the top of your page, it is not easy to see what you responded to. Look at the header of this message (or any message) - there is an "Edit" next to it. If you use that, you end up with a much shorter message(and if you stay around, your page will grow) and if you go to the history, you can see what section the response is for (compare how my entry shows up here vs how your update does. Annie 14:22, 27 June 2017 (EDT)

Scifaikuest, November 2013

Hello, I've approved your submission but had to make some changes to conform to our standards:

  • in order to be put in this grid, the title should be put in the correct title series (here "Scifaikuest").
  • deleted the content of "PubSeries" where you put the publication date.
  • deleted one extra EDITOR record (it's automatically added).
  • correctly disambiguated editorial's title.
  • changed titles IN FULL CAPS that shouted too much.
  • varianted as necessary.
  • merged one essay.
  • changed interviewee to canonical name.

The result is here. Hauck 10:59, 27 June 2017 (EDT)

Many thanks! There is one error: the poem on page 22 labeled as OMNIBUS should be labeled as POEM. If I spot these, should I just send in another Edit? I followed the guide as you posted last mag I sent up - with a screen shot. Wcouvillier 11:56, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
I've corrected it, but you're right, you can just send an edit.Hauck 12:00, 27 June 2017 (EDT)

Scifaikuest, February 2011

I accepted your submission but had to do the following changes:

  • Remove "Feb. 2011" from the Publication series field. Please leave this field empty when adding a magazine.
  • I left the "ISSN: 1558-9730" note in place but you may want to start adding it on the title level as well - or even all the way up on the series. It does not harm though.
  • The Editorial essay needs disambiguation so I added this.
  • We do not catalog advertisements so I removed the two you added and added a note about them instead. We usually do not catalog the short "about the stuff" kind of essays when they are a few lines only but as the adding contributor, it is up to you so I left that one in. As you added it, I also disambiguated that one.
  • Changed the name of ayaz daryl nielson to Ayaz Daryl Nielson. If the small letters are used on purpose, please add a note in the title itself.
  • "My Favorite Poem" needed disambiguation as well.
  • Standardized the word Interview.
  • The titled poems (the ones that do not have a starting line and have proper titles) had their titles standardizes as per ISFDB policy and a note on the cases added to the notes.
  • 'Valentine tradition" changed to "Valentine tradition". If the magazine really had mismatched quotes, let me know and I can fix it and add a note (or submit a request for the change)

A few more things that need attention:

  • "lonely" by Victor Pineiro is on page 8 and then on page 35. Is it the same poem?
  • Same question for "lunar base 5" by semi (on pages 8 and 9)

The result is here. Annie 17:04, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

One more check: Is there any bio for Dan Smith. Looking at his author page, it looks like the poems are from a different guy altogether from the artist. So any biographical data will help make the decision if we need to split again.
Meanwhile: I got the titles for 2011 combined under one title (as per policy for magazines) and did the variants for the authors with pseudonyms and multiple accounts in the DB (and not writing as their canonical here). Annie 17:11, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
In this issue they repeated those poems. I merely entered them as I came across them. The case on titles and author names are as they are in the issue. I entered them as published -- however, the "n" of Pineiro is the version with the "~" over it. I wasn't sure how to do special characters though. On the "About the..." they do a whole page spread, chock full of info. Thanks! Wcouvillier 17:38, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
Ah. I will add a (duplicate) to these and variant them. The editors of that magazine are weird. :) And I will fix the Pineiro.
OK for the about page - your issue, your choice. Technically unless if you have half a page per author (and not even then sometimes), we do not catalog but I am not going to remove that one. :) Can you check what it says about Dan Smith - birth year, middle name or something? :) Annie 17:42, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
Victor Piñeiro is all fixed. So are the two duplicates. Let me know if you see anything else that needs fixing :) And if you can find anything about Dan Smith. Annie 18:07, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks! There's been work in all but one issue of the mag since 2009, so I'll just see if the Editor would answer that. The only thing about Dan Smith on the poetry is either I run across the name as "dan smith" or more rarely, "Dan Smith". Usually with this mag the author info is only from the Featured Poet section, about the one poet - and I haven't come across a Dan Smith yet. Wcouvillier 18:30, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
The one we have in the DB is a 1933 born artist with no new work since 1999 (or not cataloged anyway). I really suspect this one is someone else - but if the editor can confirm, that would be awesome. And I am pretty sure he is not this one either (we have a novel from him). Thanks! Annie 18:37, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Scifikuest, May 2012

A couple very small things needed fixing:

  • The ISSN does not belong to a single issue but to the whole magazine so it does not go into the ISBN field.
  • "My Favorite Poem" needed disambiguation.
  • The interview needed disambiguation (with the poet's name)
  • And the name of the magazine is Scifaikuest, not Scifikuest :) Typos are fun, aren't day

A question:

  • Is "The 4-Point" really an essay

Thanks! Annie 10:15, 12 July 2017 (EDT)

Morning, Annie! (at least, it's still morning over here...) The 4-Point is a 3-page article regarding a poetic form. Here I've left off the ads (all two-pagers this issue...), and dan smith does seem to be his own dude; in the interview he mentions that he's been writing poetry for about 9 years - as of the date of 2012. Another editor on a board said she interviewed him, he's from Ohio. Dunno if that helps any... Wcouvillier 10:34, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
7:35 am where I am - very much a morning :) Thanks for the confirmation for the essay - wanted to make sure it is not just a mistake and I will fix the Dan Smith situation :) He will be called Dan Smith (poet) and in the next issue you enter, you will need to enter him this way. Will let you know when that is done so you can see how it looks like. If you want you can a note for the ads in the Notes field (as I did for yesterday's issue)
One more thing on wiki editing: Instead of clicking on "Edit" at the top of this page, click on "edit" next to the title of the section. This way it is easier to see where the change is (does not matter now because your page is small but when it gets bigger, it helps) Annie 10:39, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
And here he is: Dan Smith (poet). Look at how it is used in the current magazine. Annie 10:46, 12 July 2017 (EDT)

Scifaikuest, February 2011: name check Ayaz Daryl Nielson

Hello,

Can you check if the author of this poem is Ayaz Daryl Nielson or the already existing in our DB Ayaz Daryl Nielsen. If it is indeed spelled with an "o", is there any chance that this is a totally different person or can we safely connect them? Thanks! Annie 16:20, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

I'm sure it's a typo on my part - I tend to type ahead of myself, and the name is so Nelson to me (even if not, it seems like it) that I may have typed it in that way. I looked at the name this morning and the "e" is right. It is also published all lower case, but I don't think that really makes much difference.... Wcouvillier 10:08, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
We standardize authors names unless if the author always uses a certain form. And the way the DB is build, the small letters and the capital letters are the same entry... But I will add a note into the magazine that the letters there are small. Thanks for checking! All fixed. Annie 12:43, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

DJ Tyrer

Could you please take a look at the issues of Scifaikuest for August 2014 and November 2014 and see if DJ Tyrer's name is spelled "D. J." or "DJ" in them? If necessary, please change the records to the correct form... thanks! --Vasha 00:52, 22 September 2017 (EDT)

I've double-checked those issues and that is how the names are published. I've attempted to change that to the standard when I can, regardless of how the name is listed, but I must have been in a rush on those. Wcouvillier 12:01, 13 January 2018 (EST)

Scifaikuest, May 2013

A few questions and notes on this one:

  • Is Franci W. Alexander really a new author or is that a typo for Francis W. Alexander?
  • Standartized Conor O'Neill's name which got us a pre-existing author :)

Annie 16:24, 11 April 2018 (EDT)

Disambiguated the interview an the "My Favorite Poem" feature in this one. Annie 17:18, 12 April 2018 (EDT)
Cool, thanks for all the help! So - what is "disambiguated" again? Wcouvillier 18:46, 12 April 2018 (EDT)
Add the name of the publication in brackets after the generic name so when you go on the author page, you do not see 100 essays called "My Favorite Poem". Instead you see "My Favorite Poem (Scifaikuest, May 2013)", "My Favorite Poem (Scifaikuest, May 2014)" and so on. Any common title/feature title needs this treatment (Introduction, Foreword and so on) and in the case of Scifaikuest - "My Favorite Poem" for example :) Annie 21:43, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Scifaikuest editorials

I saw that a few of the issues of Scifaikuest which you verified didn't have the editorial assigned to the series "Editorial (Scifaikuest)" (or didn't have "My Favorite Poem" in its series), so I fixed that. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 20:45, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

The Martian Wave

I did some cleaning up on The Martian Wave: Changed "The Rash by" to "The Rash" and tidied up capitalization, made a hyphen into an em dash. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 10:56, 25 September 2018 (EDT)

Canonical name: "Willis Couvillier" vs. "W. C. Roberts"

Happy New Year! The moderator team recently discussed how your bibliography is organized within the ISFDB database. We have 207 title records -- stories, poems and essays -- published as by "W. C. Roberts", 10 published as by "Willis Couvillier", 7 published as by "WC Roberts" and one as by "W. E. Couvillier", but the current canonical name is Willis Couvillier.

According to Template:AuthorFields:CanonicalName:

  • The canonical name is the name under which a particular author's bibliography is organized. For authors who publish under multiple names, the canonical name is the most recognized name for that author within the genre. The canonical name may be a pseudonym, for instance Cordwainer Smith (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?Cordwainer_Smith).

It would appear that at this point -- unless we are missing 200 titles+ published as by "Willis Couvillier" -- your "most recognized name ... within the genre" is "W. C. Roberts" with roughly 90% of the recorded titles crediting that way. Would you say that this is an accurate summary? TIA! Ahasuerus (talk) 19:17, 2 January 2023 (EST)

It's been 3 weeks since my post above, so I have made the change -- please see W. C. Roberts for the end result. Hopefully everything looks OK! Ahasuerus (talk) 16:38, 25 January 2023 (EST)
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