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Algol in 1973

Hi, you may want to check if your verified issues of Algol (Andrew Porter, ed.) do fit in the category of fanzine: it appears as a magazine, at least from 1975 on, see here. Stonecreek 05:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Winter of the Llangs

In If, October 1967 the novelette "Winter of the Llangs" is illustrated by Finlay. Is there only a single illustration for that story? In Fantastic Novels Magazine, January 1951 can you briefly describe the six illustrations by Finlay for the story "Drink We Deep". In Famous Fantastic Mysteries Combined with Fantastic Novels Magazine, February 1953, can you briefly describe the four Finlay illustrations for the novel "Full Moon"? I've been entering the content of Finlay art books and would like to merge the drawings in those books with the original publication of the art. Bob 03:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

February 1953 scan, January 1951 scan.--swfritter 22:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Added two more illustrations to the issue of if. The first illustration is a wolf-like creature, the second is the battle between the wolf-like creature and a centaur-like creature, the last the the centaur-like creature warming itself at a fire.--swfritter 23:10, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Fixed this one; the illustration in the book is the third of these. Thank you! Bob 04:12, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

One more. In Famous Fantastic Mysteries, March 1940 and the two subsequent issues, Finlay illustrated the serial "The Blind Spot". Can you briefly describe the illustrations for this story? Four of them appear in the Finlay art books I have. Bob 14:57, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

March 1040 scan, April 1940 scan, May 1940 scan.--swfritter 22:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Ouch! I was pretty much opposed to merging interior artwork for the obvious reason that it would be tedious and time-consuming to verify content. But since you are willing to to do the work (and also pull the Tom Sawyer fence-painting scheme on me) I'd say go for it - at least for Finlay. I would like to suggest that you place a note in the merged title records stating that it has been verified that the illustrations in question have been verified as being the same pieces of art. You might find some of the answers here and I will get back to you on the other items in the near future.--swfritter 00:10, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
I do recognize the effort in what I'm asking for, and since you have verified so many of the magazines where Finlay illustrations were first published, it will put a burden on you. Rtrace and I are currently interested in Finlay art books and trying to merge or variant the works where we can. Since my collection of Finlay books is more extensive, I'll probably be the pain in your life for most of it. I truly appreciate your help! Bob 00:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
O.K., all of these are now done, with your help. Thank you again. Bob 20:49, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Finlay's Dwellers in the Mirage in Fantastic Novels

I noticed from the scans of Finlay's illustrations for "The Dwellers in the Mirage" in the April 1941 and September 1949 issues of Fantastic Novels Magazine have been merged while they are clearly different sets of drawings. I'm happy to make the edits to de-merge them, fix the dates and add a note that they should not be re-merged. Please let me know if you're OK with that. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:38, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Please do. The illustrations were totally new for the 1949 issue. These may not be the only set of Finlay illustrations in FFM/FNM that follow this pattern. Thank you very much.--swfritter 20:34, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I might also note that the artwork was NOT disambiguated with the "(reprint)" appellation because they were not in fact reprints.--swfritter 20:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Three Against the Stars

In your verified magazine Fantastic Novels Magazine, May 1950 the story "Three against the Stars" illustrated by Virgil Finlay was missing an illustration, the one on p. 27. I've added it to the contents and adjusted the numbers on the other illustrations. Bob 03:07, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

And a mighty fine illustration it is.--swfritter 23:14, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
The submission has been sitting in the queue for awhile, so I went ahead and accepted it based on your response. Mhhutchins 21:33, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks.--swfritter 21:53, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

The Face in the Abyss

In A Merritt's Fantasy Magazine, July 1950 there are apparently 3 Finlay illustrations. All three appear in Finlay art books. Could you please let me know which ones are: (a)a two-page illustration of various creatures, (b)the Face itself, and (c)a nude woman, hands behind her head? Appreciate your help. Bob 04:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

(a): Page46/47 (b): Page 12 - the title page, on the title page a is man with a snake wrapped around him with the illustration continuing to Page 13 with the Face. (c): Page 25.--swfritter 22:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! I knew (b) was a partial, but didn't know what was on the facing page. Bob 22:48, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

We Shall Come Back

In Science Fiction Quarterly, November 1951, the story "We Shall Come Back" shows Finlay as the illustrator. Is there only one illustration? Bob 02:15, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Just one illustration of a woman diving underwater.--swfritter 21:25, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for looking. Much appreciated. Bob 01:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Her Ways Are Death

I credited Virgil Finlay with the third illustration in the story "Her Ways Are Death" in a magazine you verified, Famous Fantastic Mysteries Combined with Fantastic Novels Magazine, June 1952, noting that the credit is given in two Finlay art books. Bob 21:27, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I see that it is reproduced in a book and credited to Finlay but I am not a 100% sure that it is his work. If you look at the Lawrence illustrations in the same magazine it actually could be his work. But since we have an independent source crediting it to Finlay it seems wise to go with that.--swfritter 21:53, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it is different from Finlay's usual, but originals of his work usually have his name and address on them (at least mine do), so I'm confident that the editors didn't make a mistake. Bob 01:30, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
So they have the originals! Not many survived, at least for most artists. They were usually the property of the publisher and quite often ended up in the trash. Finlay is the most likely artist to be the exception. --swfritter 04:43, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, goodness, Gerry de la Ree owned all of the illustrations used in his books, and the Finlays were also used for the four Underwood-Miller books. That's why there are so many repeated illustrations between the two sets of books. The Collectors' Book of Virgil Finlay has some of the same illustrations, I would guess because one of the three collectors whose illustrations were used bought some of de la Ree's collection after his death. I've bought illustrations by Finlay, Freas, Bok, Emsh, Krenkel, Fabian, Dameron and others. The artists' name and address are usually stamped on the back or the margins of the illustration so they can be returned to the artist after they are photographed for publication. I think it's pretty standard for illustrators. In fact, I remember reading about some publishers who didn't return Frazetta work, and Frazetta was pretty upset about losing it. Thank you for looking up these illustrations for me. Bob 01:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
I know there were a bunch of cover paintings for Astounding that were dumped in the trash. I think it was in the fifties. They tried to sell them and then give them away but found no takers.--swfritter 01:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

The Smoking Land

In A. Merritt's Fantasy Magazine,February 1950, the story "The Smoking Land" has 5 Finlay illustrations. Can you tell me which ones look as follows: (a)a hooded figure looking down on skeletons dancing in flames, and (b) a man with a dog or wolf both looking at demons in the sky? Bob 17:52, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

(a) Illustration 4 on page 49. (b) is a two pager with demons overlooking a mountain on page 36 and more demons on the top half of the following page.--swfritter 19:05, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Super! Thanks again. Bob 14:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

The Curse of Yig in The 2nd Avon Fantasy Reader

I've noticed that we have the incorrect variant of Zealia Bishop's name for "The Curse of Yig" in The 2nd Avon Fantasy Reader. It should be "Zealia Brown Bishop" and I wanted to check with you and the other verifier before I corrected the record. Please let me know if you're OK with the correction. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:08, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Bishop both on title page and ToC. OK by me.--swfritter 18:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, please correct. MLB 01:36, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Quest of the Golden Ape

In Amazing Stories, January 1957 and the two subsequent issues, Finlay illustrated the serial "Quest of the Golden Ape". I see you have two of the three issues. Can you tell me which illustration shows an armored man with a sword stabbing a man without a shirt, who is held by another man in military dress by a rope around his neck, and a third military guy with a rope around a fifth man's neck? Bob 17:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Two-pager on the title page of the first part in the January issue. Both pages are full pages with no text. The text actually starts on page 8. An awful lot of action for one illustration. I actually have all three issues.--swfritter 20:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, sir. You are a scholar and a gentleman! Bob 21:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

The Evening Star

In Fantastic Stories Magazine, Winter 1952 the story "The Evening Star" has 3 Finlay illustrations. Can you please tell me which ones are: (a)an assemblage of deformed monsters, (b) people in "jars", scientist looking at one woman, and (c) men floating, one of those side-of-page illustrations? Bob 18:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

(a) illustration 2 page 15. (b) illustration Title page 10 - Page 11 is an entire page - page 10 is about 1/4 page and has three scientists doing whatever it is that scientists do when they are standing around. (c) Illustration 3 page 19 - takes up the right hand column.--swfritter 22:57, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Once again, many thanks. Bob 02:02, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

The Snake Mother

In Famous Novels Magazine, November 1940 Finlay illustrated the story "The Snake Mother". Which of the three illustrations is of a giant nude woman (the Snake Mother?) behind a couple? Bob 02:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

The first illustration on page 7. Great cover--swfritter 22:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! I agree, one of Finlay's best IMHO. Bob 23:08, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


In Fantastic Novels Magazine, Summer 1952, Finlay illustrated the story "Slan". Which of the three illustrations is Granny attacking Joanna? Bob 23:08, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Could not find this with my Fantastic Novels magazines. Probably because you actually meant Fantastic Story. A bit frantic there for a minute until I looked at the ISFDB record. The illo you describe is on page 11 continuing from a half page on the title page, page 10, which depicts a man looking on.--swfritter 23:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Habit is a terrible thing! Sorry about that. Thank you for your extra trouble on this one. Bob 02:26, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Bok in June 1951 Fantastic Novels

This uncredited illustration for White's "The Song of the Sirens" appears in Hannes Bok: A Life in Illustration as well as the June 1951 issue of Fantastic Novels. I've visually matched it with the scan on the Ron Unz site, and I think we can safely attribute it to Bok. Both that illustration and the one(s) for "The White Sands of Bridesrun Beach" are clearly paired illustrations (I've used the term diptych, but I'm not 100% certain it is appropriate). However, in the Bok collection, they are arranged differently and I've entered separate title records for each part of the diptych. For Bridesrun, I've cross linked the 2 titles and the single title though the notes. I can do the same with Sirens, unless you'd want to consider the two illustrations as separate. It is, of course, your call. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 17:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I have made the appropriate changes in the magazine. I will leave other any considerations to your well informed judgments.--swfritter 01:17, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


In Thrilling Wonder Stories, August 1947 Finlay contributed two illustrations for the story "Atomic!". Can you please tell me which illustration is (a) a woman in a pool of liquid, a man's head behind her and (b) a man with a flame thrower firing it at a giant spider? Bob 02:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

(a) Illustration 1 on page 49. (b) 1/2 page Illustration 2 on page 53.--swfritter 20:58, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Wonderful! Thank you once again. Bob 22:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Things Pass By

In Fantastic Story Magazine, Winter 1955, the story "Things Pass By" apparently has two Finlay illustrations. Which one shows a woman, bent at waist and knees, looking and reaching down as if to pick something up? Bob 22:28, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Page 9 is a full page which extends from a 1/4 page segment on page 8.--swfritter 22:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Bob 01:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hothouse World

In Fantastic Novels Magazine, November 1950, Finlay illustrated the story "Hothouse World". Would you please tell me which illustration shows a bearded man working with lab glassware? Bob 19:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

First illustration on page 12. No extraneous art on title page.--swfritter 20:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

And in Thrilling Wonder Stories, December 1951, which of the three illustrations for "The Wanderer's Return" fit: (a) a man with a ray gun shooting a big bug, (b) a woman looking up with a spaceship overhead and (c) a man with a helmet, a sailing ship and several women on a cliff behind him (one of those side-of-the-page illos)? Bob 19:15, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

(a) Illustration 3 on page 19 - takes up 3/4 of a page. (b) pages 10 & 11 - Page 10 is as describe with page 11 being a fairly large extension which depicts priests? on the step of a temple looking on. (c) Illustration 2 on page 15 takes up one column of the page.--swfritter 20:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
As always, much appreciated. Thank you! Bob 20:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Christopher L. Bennet

Would you mind double checking your verified Analog Science Fiction and Fact, April 1999 and seeing if the letter on page 138 (currently credited to Christopher L. Bennet) is actually by Christopher L. Bennett (two 't's)? Or perhaps something to indicate it is the same person? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:29, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

You are correct. It is actually Christopher L. Bennett. I will change and put notifications on the other verifiers' pages.--swfritter 21:42, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

The Triggered Dimension

In Science Fiction Plus, December 1953, the story "The Triggered Dimension" is shown to have only one illustration. But the The Third Book of Virgil Finlay attributes 2 illustrations to that story: (1)a large one showing a woman with two towers in front of her spitting sparks and (b) a smaller one of a hand cupping a small creature in it. Virgil Finlay in its checklist says there are 5 Finlay illustrations for that story. Can you clarify this situation for me? Bob 01:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Bedsheet size magazine! Always tucked away in some oddball place! Finally found it. Added all the artwork. (1) is the first illustration. A big full-pager. (b) 1/4 bedsheet illustration 4 on page 54.--swfritter 00:10, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Boy, do I understand your problem! I'm always trying to find some oddball publication when a question comes up. Thank you for taking care of this one. Bob 00:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Good thing I found it now before it became even more lost.--swfritter 00:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

The Death of Iron

In Wonder Story Annual, 1952 the story "The Death of Iron" was illustrated by Finlay. Please tell me which drawing shows a shadowy monster in the background and a woman amid spheres and stars in the foreground. Bob 17:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Page 10 is a full page with a minor extension along the bottom of the next page which takes up less than a 1/4 page.--swfritter 20:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you once again! Bob 00:00, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Moth and Rust

In Startling Stories, June 1953, Finlay illustrated the story "Moth and Rust". Please tell me which of the 3 illustrations shows a woman, arms spread, transparent skirt spread wide, amid spheres? Bob 03:44, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 17. Only two illustrations (I double checked) although the initial illustration takes up a substantial portion of two pages.--swfritter 22:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

In Startling Stories, February 1953, Finlay illustrated the story "Troubled Star". Please tell me which illustration shows a man at the controls of some sort of vessel, a woman behind him, both shown through a porthole in the vessel? Bob 04:00, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 17.--swfritter 22:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you once again. Pretty much finished half the books I've entered so far. Bob 04:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Space Stories, February 1953

FYI, I have added the second Finlay illustration to our mutually verified Space Stories, February 1953. Ahasuerus 03:02, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

The Last Vial

In Amazing Stories, November 1960 and the two subsequent issues, the story "The Last Vial" was illustrated by Finlay. I have the January 1961 issue, but not the earlier two. Can you please tell me which issue shows (a) a woman in surf at night and (b) people around a blaze or explosion, a demon rising from it and an angel in the air overhead? Bob 03:16, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

(a) December issue, page 71, illustration 3 (just added to pub). (b)Pages 6 & 7 of the November issue. Page 7 is a full page with the demon and the crowd. Page 6 is about a 1/4 page with the clouds and the angels lower torso with. The rest of her figure extends to page 7.--swfritter 20:55, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again! Much appreciated. Bob 00:05, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Facsimile Reprints III

You might be interested in this discussion on my messages page. You've been dragged into this. Sorry. MLB 05:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Six and Ten Are Johnny

In Fantastic, Summer 1952 you show a single illustration by Finlay. Two illustrations appear in the Finlay art books, (a) showing one man on top of a second man, holding a pot on the recumbent man's head and beating on it, and (b) a flying insect about to drop a man into a monster's mouth. Can you identify these for me please? Bob 16:48, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) Page 4, first illustration which extends to the next page creating a border of vegetation about what is most text. (b) Page 31, illustration 3 - and I believe I will have nightmares tonight.--swfritter 20:49, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! That is indeed one of Finlay's most disturbing illustrations! And it's on the cover of The Fourth Book of Virgil Finlay. Bob 00:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Being by Richard Matheson

In If, August 1954 you show Finlay as the illustrator. There are two illustrations from that story in the Finlay art books, (a) a log cabin in the moonlight, and (b) a man and woman looking through a window at a sphere with tentacles over a man on the ground. Can you please identify these for me.? Bob 17:04, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Page 76, first illustration. A full page with nothing extending to the next page. More nightmares. (b) Page 87, illustratration 2. Only takes up about 1/6th of the page.--swfritter 21:00, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
As always, thank you for the trouble. I presume you reversed (a) and (b). That (a) is indeed a tiny drawing! Bob 00:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Oops! You are right. The images are far too disturbing. And indeed, I did have nightmares last night although a little more pedestrian than the Finlay illos. Killer whales and a walrus at a local downtown creek site and they were about to go on a rampage.--swfritter 20:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Spacemen Lost

In Startling Stories, Fall 1954, the story "Spacemen Lost" is illustrated by Finlay. Can you tell me which illustration shows three men looking up at a weird sun/sky? Bob 23:22, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 19.--swfritter 20:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you as always. Bob 22:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

The Dream Makers

In Fantastic, July 1958, the story "The Dream Makers" is illustrated by Finlay. Please tell me which illustration shows (a) a man dreaming of a woman in a stream of bubbles, a devil beside his bed, and (b) a man shooting a ray gun at a giant snake, presumably rescuing a woman hanging in vines? Bob 23:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) Illustration one with the devil residing in the right hand column of page 6 and a full page 7 with the man & woman. (b) Page 61, illustration 2.--swfritter 20:56, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, thank you. Bob 22:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

The Galaxy Primes

Last one today. In Amazing Science Fiction Stories, March 1959 and the two subsequent issues, the serial "The Galaxy Primes" was illustrated by Finlay. Please tell me which illustrations show (a) a four-armed man/creature biting a large bird while a man and woman look on, and (b) a woman with her arms in front of her face in front of a large woman's head screaming? Bob 23:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) The first and only illustration in the March issue. A full two-pager with the text starting on page 80. (b) The first and only illustration in the April issue, taking up one column and a full page.The May issue contains only one illustration, again a column & a page with free floating male and female figures.--swfritter 21:09, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now I'm out, I guess. Bob 22:24, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh no, I was really enjoying looking at that artwork.--swfritter 22:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

A Question of Courage

Well, I didn't mean I was done! In Amazing Stories, December 1960, there is a Finlay illustration showing an exploding space ship. Which illustration is that? Bob 00:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 25. Full page. Finlay's book should be renamed "The Infinite Book of Finlay Illustrations".
Thank you. Actually, there are 10 books I'm working on, six from Gerry de la Ree and four from Chuck Miller (or Underwood-Miller). There is a lot of overlap; I think de la Ree's collection was the basis for both series. I actually have three more hardcover books to enter (two Japanese, one Spanish), plus a number of fanzines. The only way I can match those will be with the books I have already entered, since I'm a lousy linguist and most of the fanzines don't define the sources at all. I've finished well over half of the work already, I think over 3/4. I hope to finish the entered material this month. I really appreciate your help and that of a very few others who have extensive collections of the pulps; many of Finlay's later work is in magazines still under copyright, so not duplicated on line. Bob 00:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

The Graveyard Heart

In Fantastic Stories of Imagination, March 1954, Finlay illustrated the story "The Graveyard Heart". Can you tell me which illustrations show (a) a statue of a man holding a snake on fire and (b) a bearded man with a hammer and chisel or stake over a sleeping boy or young man?

(a) Illustration 2 on page 44. Full page. (b) First illustration page 20 1/2 page on 20 & full page on 21. Actually think it is a woman/girl. Notice the strategically places starbursts.--swfritter 19:53, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I guess that is a woman. Thanks. Bob 20:42, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Also in the same magazine, Finlay illustrated the story "The Coming of the Little People". Is there more than one illustration for that story? The one I have shows a swarm of flying creatures with a mountain and a sun in the background. Bob 00:29, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 81. About 2/3 page.--swfritter 19:53, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Got it. Glad I asked. I'm never sure when a novelette shows one illustration. Thank you once again. Bob 20:42, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

The Human Zero

In Fantastic Stories of Imagination, January 1962, Finlay illustrated the story "The Human Zero". Which illustrations show (a) a close-up of a man's eyes and nose, and (b) a man and 50 caliber machine gun in the midst of a blast? Bob 22:39, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) The back cover illustration. Full page. (b) Illustration 2, page 59. Full page.--swfritter 15:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you once again. Neat that this pub put Finlay illustrations on the back cover! Bob 17:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Witch of the Four Winds

In Fantastic Stories of Imagination, November 1963 and the following issue, Finlay illustrated the story "Witch of the Four Winds". Would you please tell me which illustrations show (a) a woman hanging by one arm from a cliff with a dragon or snake approaching from below, and (b) bats attacking a woman? Bob 22:51, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) November issue, Back cover, full page. (b) December issue, page 98, full page.--swfritter 16:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Mucho gusto! Bob 17:35, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

All We Marsmen

In Worlds of Tomorrow, August 1963 and the two following issues, Finlay illustrated the story "All We Marsmen". Please tell me which illustrations show (a) a wrinkled person in a fetal position, (b) an armless man with wires from his stumps to his head and controls on his chest and belly, (c) the reflection of a beast or devil in someone's eye, and (d) two grasshopper-men fighting? Bob 23:06, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) August issue, illustration 3, page 29, all of right hand column. (b) December issue, illustration 3, page 147, full page. (c) October issue, first illustration, page 73, full page. (d) August issue, illustration 2, page 19, full page.--swfritter 16:18, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Just about finished the next-to-last entered Finlay art book! Thank you! Bob 17:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The Vengeance of Kyvor

In Fantastic, April 1957 and the subsequent issue, Finlay illustrated the story "The Vengeance of Kyvor". Please tell me which illustration shows a man on the back of a big cat, another man below it? Bob 01:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

The first and only illustration for the April issue. A full two-page spread with no text other than the title.--swfritter 19:50, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, much appreciated. Bob 22:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Time Waits for Winthrop

In Galaxy, August 1957, Finlay illustrated the story "Time Waits for Winthrop". Would you please tell me which illustration shows (a) a bald woman, (b) an old man lying down holding his lips apart, and (c) a man in a space suit wielding a sword? Bob 21:39, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) Third illustration. Upper 1/4 of page 54 and top 1/2 page of page 55. Woman on page 55. (b)First illustration, pages 6 & 7. Page 6 has title, blurb, some text and the man's legs. Page 7 is most of the page. (c) Illustration 2, right hand column of page 32 and all of page 33.--swfritter 23:40, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Bob 17:01, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Strange Compulsion

In Science-Fiction Plus, October 1953, Finlay illustrated the novella "Strange Compulsion". Please tell me which illustrations show (a) a man in a space suit (or a robot?), a woman behind him, and a rocket ship behind her, (b) a woman's face behind a series of concentric circles and a clock hand, (c) space ships taking off from some sort of supports, and (d) a man with his hands on controls in a space ship in flames? Bob 16:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC) (a) First illustration, page page 39. Full bedsheet size illustration with only title info. (b) Illustration 3, page 47. Almost a 1/4 of a page in the right hand column. (c) Illustration 2, page 42, about a third of the page in the left hand column.--swfritter 20:21, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! And (d)? Bob 21:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Ooops! (d) is illustration 4 on page 51. A little more than 1/2 a bedsheet page and a red background tint.--swfritter 21:29, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Bob 03:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Sound of the Scythe

In Amazing, October 1959 Finlay illustrated the novella "Sound of the Scythe". If there is more than one illustration, which one shows a military man behind a desk facing a lobster-like alien? Bob 17:07, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

The first and only illustration. One column on page 76 with the bulk of the creature's body. Page 77 is a full page with the creature's chest and head and the man.--swfritter 20:27, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Great, thanks a bunch. Bob 21:05, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Wanted in Surgury

In If, August 1957 Finlay illustrated the novelette "Wanted in Surgury". If there is more than one illustration, which one shows a man with two robots apparently operating on him, a surgeon behind him? Bob 17:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

The first and only illustration on page 58. A full page with no text.--swfritter 20:33, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Once again, thank you! Bob 21:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

The Lovers

In Startling Stories, August 1952 Finlay illustrated the story "The Lovers". Please tell me which illustration shows a bug in top hat and cape facing a man, a second man on the ground behind him.

Illustration 3 on page 25. Most of the page. More nightmares tonight and not just from the illo. The story is frightening enough without them.--swfritter 21:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, because of this story, I never became a fan of Farmer. Thanks as always! Bob 03:47, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Also would you please tell me which illustration in "Strange Compulsion" above fits the description (d)? Bob 19:59, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

See above.--swfritter 21:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Island in the Sky

In Fantastic, September 1953 Finlay illustrated the story "Island in the Sky". Please tell me which illustration shows a man without a shirt gripping a conical object, wood splintering around him. Bob 20:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 17. A full pulp page.--swfritter 21:42, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Great! Thanks. Bob 03:52, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

The Unforgiven

In Startling Stories, October 1953 Finlay illustrated the story "The Unforgiven". I variented the illustration to recognize that and added a note. Bob 20:14, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Admirably documented.--swfritter 21:47, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Double Meaning

In Startling Stories, January 1953 Finlay illustrated the story "Double Meaning". Which illustration shows a woman hiding her face with her upper arm? Bob 20:18, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 17. A full page. There is a man standing behind her.--swfritter 21:51, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
There certainly is! Thanks. Bob 03:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

All Good Men

In Fantastic, June 1956 Finlay illustrated the novelette "All Good Men". Only one illustration? Bob 19:35, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

In If, June 1957, same question about the stories "...On the Dotted Line" and "Pretty Quadroon". Bob 19:38, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes in all cases.--swfritter 20:25, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, much appreciated. Bob 03:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

...And All the Stars a Stage

In Amazing, June 1960 and the subsequent issue, Finlay illustrated the story "...And All the Stars a Stage". Which illustration shows two men working on an object in space above a moon (wearing helmets, but bare arms)? Bob 03:38, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

July issue. Right column of page 80 and a full page 81.--swfritter 20:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you once again. Bob 01:32, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

The Long, Slow Orbits

In If, May 1967, Finlay illustrated the story "The Long, Slow Orbits". Which illustration shows strips broken into 8 parts, parts of a man in a space suit distributed between the parts? Bob 19:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 98, a full page.--swfritter 20:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Most appreciated! Bob 01:32, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Hepcats of Venus

In Fantastic Stories of the Imagination, January 1962, Finlay illustrated the story "Hepcats of Venus". Please tell which illustration shows a somewhat blurry group of 4 men/creatures. Bob 20:01, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Illustration 2 on page 29, full page.--swfritter 20:55, 26 February 2015 (UTC
Thank you, thank you! Bob 01:33, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

A Million Years to Conquer

In Fantastic Story Magazine, Fall 1952 Finlay illustrated the story "A Million Years to Conquer". Which illustrations show (a) a woman and a dragon's head and (b) a man in some sort of covering with goggles looking down at a man or creature with glowing eyes? Bob 03:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

(a) First illustration, a full page as described on page 10 with an extension to the top part of page 11 with a man looking on. (b) Third illustration on page 23, the left part of which takes 1/3 of a column while the right part takes 2/3 of a column.--swfritter 21:13, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you as always! Bob 20:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, August 1956

You are the primary verifier of Amazing Stories, August 1956. I think the title of the Silverberg/Garrett story is "The Beast with 7 Tails", not "The Beast with Seven Tails". Could you please check? Thanks, Darkday 23:55, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Changed title of story, variant parent, artwork and made a pub note stating that the title is listed differently on the cover than it is on the ToC and title page.--swfritter 01:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Grotesques and Fantasies

I'm not certain how a publication which is a digital audio download would have page numbers. Also, I changed the credit of two stories from "I. Zangwill" to Israel Zangwill. (They showed up on a clean-up report which finds unvarianted titles by pseudonyms. That's how I discovered the odd situation about the page numbers.) Mhhutchins 20:17, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

That was quick. Just put the pub in yesterday. Thought I had got all the variants. I was going to look at it again today after I though about making the collection a variant of the collection mentioned in the notes. I waffled but left the page numbers in to give an idea of the story lengths.--swfritter 20:41, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, February 1953

Can you confirm that the artwork on page 76 of this publication is credited to "Frank Novarro" or Frank Navarro? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 20:40, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Same situation but with the cover art credit of this publication and this one. Quite likely it's the same person and a canonical form of the name will have to be established with variants required for the one designated as the pseudonym. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Noticed the cover art before your message. All three are credited to Novarro. An internet search shows that neither spelling is totally uncommon. Since there are more pieces credited to Navarro I will variant the Novarro credits.Since all of the credits seem to be Amazing/Fantastic adventures in a close date range it is quite obvious they must be the same person.--swfritter 20:59, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
And I'm sure it is a problem that is known. Even after varianting the cover art the pub shows only the varianted artist and not the canonical.--swfritter 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
The publication record has always only shown the actual credit for cover art and never the canonical artist's name. And I'm not sure that it should (if anyone ever starts a discussion to change it.) Author credits are the same way. The publication record of a book credited to Paul French doesn't show Isaac Asimov as the true author. Only the title records (of both the book and the cover art) shows that it's a variant.
A relatively minor issue but it would be kind of nice if the variant and the canonical were shown. There are certainly more important things that require developer time.--swfritter 20:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
BTW, you forgot to make "Novarro" into a pseudonym of Navarro. I'll do that. Mhhutchins
Oops. And there literally 100's of times that I haven't forgotten. Or at least don't remember forgetting.--swfritter 20:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Wally and Willy in Imagination

Could the "Wally" in this issue of Imagination be the same artist as the "Willy" in this issue of Imagination? Because both credits are based on signatures, perhaps it's just a matter of interpreting it? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins

The "Willy" signature in the July 1953 issue is clearly legible. The cartoon illustrations in June 1951 issue have very different and difficult to decipher signatures. I will put notes in each pub to that effect.--swfritter 21:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Imagination, September 1951

Could the illustration on page 121 of this record be credited to Herb Ruud instead of "Herb Rudd"? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 00:03, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is Ruud. Modification made.--swfritter 22:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Shadow over Mars

In Fantastic Novels Magazine, March 1953, Finlay illustrated the story "Shadow over Mars". Please tell me which illustrations show (a) a man carrying a woman with harpy-like creatures flying in the background and (b) a rocket ship taking off, hitting a building along with a winged woman and a large devil's face. Bob 13:50, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

(a) First illustration, All of page 10 and most of page 11. (b) Illustration two, all of page 19.--swfritter 20:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks! Bob 23:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

The Big Time

In Galaxy, March 1958 and the subsequent issue, Finlay illustrated the story "The Big Time". Would you please tell me which illustrations show (a) W.C. Fields and the Cretan woman with an ax and (b) a bare-chested man, hands in the air, surrounded by ghostly heads? Bob 17:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

April issue in both cases. (a) First illustration, top 1/3 of page 98 and almost 2/3 of page 99. (b) Third illustration, a full page 141.--swfritter 20:47, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Fast response! Much appreciated. Bob 23:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

"Kokler" or "Kohler"

Can you confirm the credit for the cartoon on page 127 of this issue of Imaginative Tales? There are numerous records for "Kohler" cartoons from the same publisher in the database. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Kohler is correct. Change made.--swfritter 18:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

"Kristen" or "Kristin"

Can you confirm the cover art credit given in this record? There are records in the database, and other covers for F&SF, credited to "Kristin Kest". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:37, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Variant title, pseudonym relation made. Note in pub.--swfritter 18:15, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Thomas "Nachid" or "Nackid"

Can you look at the art credits for Thomas Nachid from Space & Time and confirm that they are not for Thomas Nackid? The latter is the actual spelling of the author's name according to his website. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 01:48, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Nackid, indeed. Credited in a confusing font but the interior artists are also credited in the masthead. Fun time finding the files. They were on my old XP and thankfully on the primary drive since the secondary drive failed although I should have backups of everything somewhere. And a good thing since a virus at one time deleted nearly every ebook file on my computer.--swfritter 20:41, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Cover art credit for Destinies, Feb-Mar 1980 found

Please see the message on my talk page about the cover art credit for this publication. I have updated the record to add the cover art credit. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:16, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Space SF, May 1952, "Geri" or "Gari"

Can you confirm the credit for a piece of interiorart on page 54 of this publication for "Geri"? There are several pieces credited to "Gari" in other issues of this periodical. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 05:41, 16 March 2015 (UTC) Gari it is. Change made.--swfritter 20:12, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Edward Sillett or Willett

Can you confirm the credit of this record? It is noted on the website of Edward Willett. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Total typo. Fixed.--swfritter 21:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Hand from the Void

In Super Science Stories, January 1951, you show only one Finlay illustration for the story "Hand from the Void". I have three in one pub. Can you tell me which have the following captions: (a) "The indescribable longing on their faces...", (b)"Could one man alone turn aside..." and (c)"In the distance, the blood and crimson towers..."? Bob 00:51, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Only one illustration. (c) is probably an extension of (a). In the magazine a man and a woman on page 14 are looking at a window? with the towers etc. on page 15. Part of the window is on page 14. (b) Can't find it. Even counted pages to make sure a page in my copy is not missing.--swfritter 19:09, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm sure that (b) and (c) are actually the two-page illustration. (a) seems to be the outlier, and must be from a different story; don't know if I can track that one down. Bob 21:31, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Ariel's Song

In Famous Fantastic Mysteries Combined with Fantastic Novels Magazine, September 1942 the poem "Ariel's Song" appears imbedded in a Finlay illustration. Although you credit the illustration, you do not credit the poem. Since the poem and the illustration appear several times in Finlay art books, this is a problem. I've added a credit for the poem in the original pub if that's o.k. with you. Bob 15:50, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Appeared in "The Tempest" so I suppose it should have an appropriate date. Also, the poem isn't complete. I will leave you to ponder to appropriate edits.--swfritter 18:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Well, yeah. But this version, as you point out, is only a partial of the original, and is identical to the other versions it's merged with. So the date is that of the pulp in which it first appears. Bob 23:40, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Ah but, this version is complete. So should it have the early date and yours be a disambiguated variant with the date of the first pulp appearance? This could be worth a full page of discussions!!! We could head it "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." And it would not be the most trivial discussion ever to appear in these pages. Unless Will Shakespeare complains I would say "Lay on, Macduff!" and continue with the great stuff you are doing on the Finlay page.--swfritter 19:30, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

"Lightspeed Magazine", March 2015

You verified this issue with a content item "Author Spotlight: Ursula K. LeGuin", using a non-standard spelling of "Le Guin". Looking at Lightspeed's web page, at least there they used the spelling "Le Guin". I'm guessing this was a data entry typo. Chavey 22:31, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Copy & Paste so no typoe. That's the way it is in the ebook. The name is spelled correctly for the story credit. I will fudge a little bit on this one and use the normal spelling and add a note to the pub.--swfritter 00:14, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I think the standard is not to record spelling variations only based on blank spaces, but I can't remember. Chavey 02:12, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Less critical for an interview. I am not even sure that is possible to make a variant title based upon the interviewee.--swfritter 17:14, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Artwork Credit for Later Than You Think

In Galaxy, October 1951, which you verified as transient, the artwork is listed as "uncredited". I would change that to "Vanpala" based on the signature on the artwork. I know this person is not in the data base, but the name seems fairly clear to me. What are your thoughts on this? Do you have access to check? Bob 18:41, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Actually the October 1950 issue. Link is correct. I'm not completely sure about the credit but Vanpala seems to be a strong possibility. I would say go ahead and make the change with a qualification in the pub notes. At one time the number of verifiers was severely limited so Primary (transient) was the only option for secondary verifers. I think nearly all of my transient verifications are of pubs to which I still have access.--swfritter 21:07, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks; sorry that I'm still making so many typos! I wondered, since you have so many "transient" citations. Glad you explained. Bob 21:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Fantastic - Summer 1952

Hello. Just a couple of minor discrepancies I want to bring to your attention in this pub. On page 106 David Stone is credited as the illustrator, but does not have a record for this. On page 119 Professor Bingo's Snuff is a reprint as stated on this page and on the cover, but the record does not reflect this. Being serialized in 1951 in Park East magazine according to Wikipedia, our record should be updated to show this (perhaps this was erroneously done for one of the illos). Can you review this with your copy and let me know what you think. Thanks. Syzygy 14:25, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Quite right! I have added the Stone artwork and updated the title record for the Chandler story with a more correct date a and notation about the original sources.--swfritter 16:21, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Looks good. You had an extra 'first' in the title note, though. I made the submission to correct this. Thanks for your quick attention. Syzygy 18:29, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick eye.--swfritter 19:12, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Brev and Brey

Could Brev and Brey be the same person? Both had interior art in 1962 issues of Analog. Are the credits based on a printed credit or a signature which may have been misread? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 05:31, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Just saw the note in this record saying that the credit may be incorrect. Mhhutchins 05:33, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Both illustrations are editorially credited. The Brey credit is unmistakable but the Brev could be Brey with the "v" having a very short descender. The illustrations are stylistically similar so they do appear to be by the same artist. In order to keep the credits consistent, I will credit the "Brev" to "Brey".--swfritter 19:17, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Pete Bogg and Pete Boggs

Can you confirm the two credits for Pete Boggs and determine if they should be changed or varianted to Pete Bogg? Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:41, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Credits are correct but since there are so many similar pieces by Bogg I made variants and noted the reasons why in the title notes.--swfritter 21:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

The Thief and the Roller Derby Queen

Would you please double check The Thief and the Roller Derby Queen in your verified Galaxy's Edge, Issue 10: September 2014? It is listed as an essay, but is it actually the same short story that was published in The Chick is in the Mail? See this probable copyright violation for reference. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:40, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Guess I was confused by the word "essay" and the fact that the story appears in the section of the magazine usually reserved for essays. I also added the sub-title but noticed that the title is also entered with an "&" rather than "and" in three verified pubs although a look inside on amazon shows that the title, at least in the ToC has an "and".--swfritter 19:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. I've pinged Chavey about the other version. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

It Could Be Anything

Finlay illustrated the story "It Could Be Anything" in Amazing Stories, January 1963. Would you please tell me which illustration shows a man in an alley watching another man surrounded by some sort of wave? Bob 20:58, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Back cover.--swfritter 21:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for all your help with the Finlay illos. This is the last illo in the last Finlay book I have to enter, and your help throughout is very much appreciated! Bob 18:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Good work!--swfritter 20:31, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Science Fiction Stories, #2 1954

Hi, the cover art for this magazine is by Ed Emshwiller, as it is the same art as on Utopia Grossband #55 (Fora I) which is credited to Emsh. In fact, the signature Emsh is visible there at bottom right as can be seen here on Flickr. Horzel 10:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

The part of the art with the signature has been cut from my pub. I credited it to Emsh and made the artist a variant of Ed Emshwiller. I am not totally up on the rules for making art variants so I will leave that for you.--swfritter 21:55, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Analog JAN 1979

A submission has been made to change the credit for the artwork of Final Solution from 'uncredited' to 'John Butterfield' as credit appears vertically at bottom left on page 105 in Analog JAN 1979. Syzygy 20:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

On my copy the credited is halfway buried in the seam but the credit is correct.--swfritter 21:59, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


You have primary verified issues of Clarkesworld, giving the issue number in the ISBN/Catalog # field. (You may be following a practice that an earlier editor may have established.) This is not standard ISFDB practice. If the issue number is prominently stated on the front cover, that should be part of the title field as in this periodical and this one. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:05, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Looking now I see that you only verified one issue with a catalog number. It was the first issue to do so, and all issues following it, none primary verified, continued the practice. Mhhutchins 15:10, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Since posting this message an editor has updated all of the earlier issues with the issue number in the ISBN field, and now the same editor (Wjmvanruth) is going back and adding the issue number to the title field. Of course, that means a moderator is accepting them without regard to your note about being informed of changes. C'est la vie on the ISFDB. I'm backing away from the whole thing. Mhhutchins 18:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Not even sure why I verified that one issue since I have been entering data strictly from the website. That issue now unverified. Context sensitive Help for pub title says "If there is no apparent date, or the date is incomplete, a volume/issue number may be substituted. The date is always preferable, even if the magazine typically gives the issue number" and specifically mentions "Interzone". Since the issue number is a unique identifier the ISBN field seems like an appropriate data entry location for the issue number. If somebody actually is working from the ebook versions it would seem appropriate that they now own Clarkesword and will also be willing to enter the verified data. Apparently I have been entering Galaxy's Edge incorrectly, at least according to Help. Only problem, the print and ebook releases have unique ISBN numbers. I am also out of this one. Seeing as how I have to add pubs for about of the third of the reviews I enter, it would seem as though there might be more important tasks.--swfritter 22:13, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
And I put a hold on about two dozen submissions that want to move the Issue number to the title field. I don't think it belongs there. The Galaxy's edge editions/issues are done quite correctly as each DOES have an ISBN. The issue number could go in the notes, but there's no reason it CAN'T go in the title field. And, re above, the editor wasn't changing the contents so he/she really didn't violate the 'spirit' of the note ...... the issue numbers would have been quite correct in the ISBN field. I've directed the editor here, so hopefully will find someone 'home' ... --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:55, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
When someone makes such significant changes to a number of issues that signifies to me that they want to take ownership of the magazine. That's fine by me. I already subscribe to six magazine that I do not read so that I can verify the issues. Hopefully whoever takes over Clarkesworld will do the same.--swfritter 13:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

If Jan-Feb 1974

Can you confirm Jack Gaughan's signature (gJ) in this issue for interior art on page 113 (bottom left above the second branch) and page 145 (bottom right just above the shoulder), thus making for an all-Gaughan issue? Syzygy 15:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed. Changes made.--swfritter 20:11, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. Syzygy 20:41, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Lightspeed, June 2015

Hello, a cleanup report shows that there are two couples of SHORTFICTION items similarly titled (_Madeleine_ & _Melioration_), can you have a look? Thanks. Hauck 15:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, one of the entries is interior art. An exhausting data entry episode with over 100 titles in this special issue. Fixed. Thanks for the heads up.--swfritter 19:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

The Cross of Mercrux

Hannes Bok illustrated the story "The Cross of Mercrux" in Famous Novels Magazine, November 1951. Could you please tell me which ones show (1)two pages, with a shooter on one page and the shot on the second, (2)a man and woman following a hunchback, and (3)a startled man with a burning brand who has discovered a skeleton. And in the story "White Sands of Bridesrun Beach" in Famous Novels Magazine, June 1951 is the single illustration by Bok a two-pager? Bob 21:42, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

November 1951 (not 1950) issue: (1): pages 94/95. (2): page 111 (3): page 103.--swfritter 12:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
June 1951: two pages.--swfritter 13:01, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, as always. Bob 19:10, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

The Mandala

In Mystic Magazine, January 1956, there is an article by Hannes Bok titled "The Mandala: A Guide to Positive Thinking". Is there a picture of a mandala that accompanies the article? Bob 20:22, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

That would probably be the untitled illo on the fep. If you think it is appropriate, feel free to change the title of the illo to the title of the article. There is also a photo of Bok on page 17.--swfritter 00:03, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! I did just that! Bob 14:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

The Power of Darkness

You have an edit to do a title merge for The Power of Darkness, however the software can only find one of the titles you wished to merge. The missing title record is 1869367. I'm also unable to reject the edit as the software can't create the necessary buttons for a moderator to proceed. Are you able to cancel or reject the edit yourself? Thanks for looking. PeteYoung 13:42, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

No longer in list. Thanks.--swfritter 13:51, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Hot Trip for Venus

Hi. The contents listing for Imaginative Tales, July 1957 contains "Hot Trip for Venus", as by Ralph Burke. Indeed the story is listed this way in the table of contents of that magazine. But on the opening page of the story, it says "by Randall Garrett". I think the opening page takes precedence over the TOC. Can you please have a look? Thanks, Darkday 17:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Correct. Authorship changed to Garrett and the Silverberg co-authorship is gone. Note placed in pub. Thanks!--swfritter 20:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Robert Silverberg is actually credited as the co-author on I have sent an email to but unless they have more information I will leave the authorship as Garrett alone and make a notation about the majipoor credit.--swfritter 19:48, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for making the update. I think it's very well possibly that this was a Garrett/Silverberg collaboration after all, but it's impossible to decide without additional information. I fear you won't get a reply from I've never received one when I wrote, and the site hasn't been updated in the last three years. Darkday 21:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Queued submissions

Three of your submissions have been sitting in the moderators' queue the past few days. They appear to be identical and probably the same as one which you already accepted, since they attempt to create a new record for an issue already in the database. Please reject them when you get a chance. Mhhutchins 18:00, 2 August 2015 (UTC)d

Done. Thanks. Hopefully it was and ISFDB hiccup and not a short term memory issue which made me continually forget that I had already entered the issue.--swfritter 21:17, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

The Mutant Weapon vs. Med Service

Please see ISFDB:Community Portal#The Mutant Weapon vs. Med_Service as a primary verifier of Astounding Science Fiction, August 1957. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Error Identified in Bleiler's Early Index - Fred M. White, "Balance of Power"

I identified an error in Science Fiction: The Early Years (Pages 545 - 998). The review of "The Balance of Power" uses an incorrect story title. The correct title appearing in Windsor Magazine October 1907 is "The Balance of Nature". I've provided links to online scans at multiple sources confirming this in the Magazine issue record and also a link to Google books preview of the Index, where the incorrect page is available for viewing. I left the Review titled as it appeared in the index, however I also added notes to the review documenting this error and again providing links to the available scans. I wasn't sure if we should leave the review titled incorrectly as it appears, or if we should change it to eliminate a a linked review with an unmatched title. Thoughts or input? Thanks Kevin 02:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

D. Bruce Barry or Berry

Can you confirm the credits for two interior art contents in this publication are by "D. Bruce Barry"? Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:09, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

In a Pig's Eye

Fabian illustrated this story in May 1976. In Fantasy by Fabian, two illustrations on the same page seem to bear that designation. Both are narrow, vertical B&W illustrations. The first shows a nude woman's left profile, hands high on her chest and apparently small horns on her head. The second shows a nude woman from behind, facing a man in a chair holding a skull-topped scepter. Are there two illustrations? If not, which one of these two is the single illustration? Bob 21:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I figured this one out. The first one of the illos above is the one from that story. The other is on the same page, but not from that story. Sorry about my confusion. Bob 20:09, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


Stephen Fabian and one of his sons published five illustrations titled "Daemon", one each in five issues of Fantastic, beginning in one. Four of these appear in Women & Wonders as follows: (1) Three Indians rowing a boat in rough seas under two moons, one large and one small, (2) a woman, right hand on her chest, a sailing ship and rowboat in the distance, a couple of birds in the air and a moon behind all, (3) a big figure in a monster mask, knife in one hand, looks like a censor in the other and a woman on the altar in front of him, a second woman in front of the altar with some kind of sphere between her legs and (4) a galley with sail furled with a bright star behind. Would you please let me know which of the illustrations fit these descriptions? Bob 00:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Curse of the Superhero's Wife

Would you mind double checking the title of Curse of the Superhero's Wife in your verified The Complete Accursed Wives? It was originally published as Curse of the Super-Hero's Wife (with a hyphen). Both Locus and Amazon Look Inside's TOC for The Complete Accursed Wives show the hyphen. Based on the title page, this should either be merged or varianted as appropriate. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:55, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Dan Barry and Dan Berry

Can you check to see if these could be the same artist? He has work in two Ziff-Davis publications: Fantastic Adventures, August 1951 and Amazing Stories, July 1951. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 00:30, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Analog, December 1980

Can you confirm the interior art credit on page 106 of this issue? Could it possibly be David Egge? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 17:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Marvel Science Stories 1951-05

Added a cover scan to this magazine.

Illustrator for One of Three

There are four illustrations for "One of Three" in your verified copy of the March 1948 issue of Startling Stories, which are uncredited. I've been adding the illustrations in this book which reprints one of the illustrations and credits it to Lawrence. I've matched the illustration to an online scan of the illustration on page 15 and I've gone ahead and made the variant (because of the numeric disambiguation) relationship. I'll leave it up to you whether you want to change the artist credit the parent title or the other uncredited illustrations for that story. Though, I'm sure that variant is going to cause this to show up on a cleanup report so I'm sure someone will ask if we don't change at least the one. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:06, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

There are two more identifications from this book for illustrations which are uncredited. They are both identified as Lawrence and I've matched them against online scans of the original. They are Escape from Hyper-Space from the December 1951 issue of Thrilling Wonder Stories and The Black Flame from page 39 of the Spring 1952 issue of Fantastic Story. As before I've made the variants. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:00, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
There is one other. This time the illustration for Tydore's Gift in the November 1952 issue of Fantastic Adventures which the book credits to Vestal. I've made the title record in my book into a variant of the canonical name. You can merge your title with whichever form of the name you prefer. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:31, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I've found another. Sadoul credits this illustration in the July 1951 issue of Startling Stories to Lawrence. I'll go ahead and make mine a variant. I don't know if I'll find any more of these, but I am approaching the end of the book. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:18, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hospitality in Planet Stories

I suspect that the uncredited essay on page 80 of the September 1950 issue of Planet Stories should actually be interior art based on this scan. Also, do you think that's Napoli's signature at the bottom right? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:10, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, November 1952

I've corrected the author's name and title of this title per this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:03, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

"The Crib of Hell" by Arthur Pendragan / Pendragon

Can you confirm the credit for the story in this issue? It was reprinted here under a variant spelling of his name. Can you determine if a variant and pseudonym should be created? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 23:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Bradbury letter in January 1941 Fantastic Novels

I'm going to add the letter from Ray Bradbury appearing in the January 1941 issue of Fantastic Novels using the pdf on as the source. The letter was reprinted in Lesser's Pulp Art and I wanted to get the original appearance. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


When you get a chance, could you please review this discussion? TIA! Ahasuerus 01:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Worlds of Tomorrow, August 1964

A question about Nodel's INTERIORART titles for "Day of the Egg" in your verified Worlds of Tomorrow, August 1964. Do we want to add "[2]" to the second one? Ahasuerus 13:20, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Ryan Neil Myers or Ryan Neal Myers

Can you confirm the author credit of this record? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 17:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I've been waiting a while to clean this, and noticed that there's an "about the author" later in the issue which gives the correct spelling of the author's name. So I'll change the credit of the story. If it was credited to "Neil", please change it back and create a pseudonym and variant. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 16:36, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Fantastic for August 1972

I'm going add the interior artwork for "The Witch of the Mists" in the August 1972 issue of Fantastic. I'm also going to change the title of the Panshin's column which we currently have as "Science Fiction in Dimension" whereas the title page (and also the table of contents), list the title as "SF in Dimension". Ordinarily, I'd wait to hear back from you before proceeding. However, I haven't seen a response from you in a while. I hope all is well and you're just taking a break. In any case, do let me know if you disagree about these changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:34, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

May 1976 Analog

Please see this discussion regarding proposed changes to the May 1976 issue of Analog. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:43, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

And a similar discussion for the 1976 issue. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

August 1962 Analog

I'm adding an illustration that we missed for "The Toughest Opponent" in the August 1962 issue of Analog. It occurs on page 24. I'll also adjust the disambiguation of the subsequent illustrations for that title. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Gunn Story in August 1955 Astounding

I'm changing the author credit of the James Gunn story, "Feeding Time" appearing in the August 1955 issue of Astounding to "James E. Gunn" as it appears on the title page. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Williamson's "Gateway to Paradise"

I'm going to convert Jack Williamson's "Gateway to Paradise" which we currently have listed as a novel, to a novella. It appears in your verified publication, Wonder Stories Annual for 1953 (as a serial). My reasons for doing so are that both of the magazine appearances are classified as a novella in Miller/Contento. I also did an estimated word count from the reprint in the collection of the same name, and it appears to be less than 3,400 words. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:36, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Beware the Fury / The Fury Beware

Hello, as this story is titled The Fury Beware on title page but not on toc in the UK edition of Fantastic, can you just in case check the title of the US printing in this pub? Thanks. Hauck 13:42, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Housemaid 103

Imaginative Tales, November 1957 contains Housemaid No. 103. However I think the title should be "Housemaid 103" instead, since that's the title on the first page of the story. Darkday 23:22, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Possible Typo

Here is a possible type (story & artwork):

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:58, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Roy Lewis's 'The Evolution of Man'

Your verified copy of the anthology Apeman, Spaceman has Roy Lewis's short story appearing as 'The Evolution of Man', not as 'The Evolution Man' as with earlier appearances in the same anthology. If it is correct in your pub it will need to be made a variant. Thanks for checking. PeteYoung 01:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Cover found

for this pub. --Zapp 21:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

6 and the Silent Scream

Added a note about the artist signature.[1]--Auric 02:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Algol fanzine wiki page

You and I had done some work on the Algol fanzine wiki page, you in 2008 and me in 2010. All of that is more than superseded by the Magazine page for Algol, so I deleted that old Wiki page. If, for some reason, you're interested in its previous status, I took a snapshot of it, which I'll keep around for a while. Chavey 06:36, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Reviews for "Everett Edward Hale"

We appear to have entries for both Edward Everett Hale and Everett Edward Hale, and the latter has four review entries in your verified copy of Bleiler's Science Fiction: The Early Years (page 325). I can't find any reference that Hale ever used the name "Everett Edward Hale" and suspect these reviews are linked to the wrong Hale, probably initially entered in error. As a first step towards tidying this up can I ask you to have a look at your copy and, if in agreement, correct the review links? Any other thoughts on this? Thanks. PeteYoung 05:44, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 10-Apr

Here are some possible typos:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Interview With Robert A. Heinlein, in Algol #21

According to Alfred Bester's author page he has made three interviews with Robert Heinlein. I'm trying to find out if they are actually all one and the same. I already found that the one in my copy of Redemolished is actually the same as the one in this pub - in both cases it's the interview that Bester made for Publisher's Weekly in 1973. The remaining interview is the one in Algol issue #21 that you verified. Can I ask you to make a text comparison with the short excerpt I'm quoting from my book (first and last sentence, respectively, with [...] denoting text in between):

The one author who has raised science fiction from the gutter status of pulp space opera (still practiced by Hollywood) to the altitude of original and breathtaking concepts is Robert A. Heinlein.


"And how do you make sure that you don't fail?"

He grinned. "First you've got to pull 'em in off the side-walk. Then you hang on to their lapels - don't let them get away - then pass 'em along from paragraph to paragraph and finish with music."

Is this also the text that you have in Algol? Thanks for your help, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 20:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Review in Bleiler's "Science Fiction: The Early Years"

The listing for your verified publication contained a review of "Quack!": The Portrait of an Experimentalist by Robert Elson. However, it was listed by us as a book by "Rober Elson". I corrected that to the correct spelling of the author's name, but if Bleiler actually spelled it that way, i.e. it wasn't just a typo, then you might want to include a note to that effect. (But I suspect it was just a typo.) Chavey 16:18, 21 May 2016 (UTC) \

The Saint-Germain Chronicles

Added to the notes for this collection. MLB 02:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, September 1953

Added letter from E. Frank Russell to your verified pub.--Rkihara 04:37, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, June 1953

Added letter from Everett B. Cole to your verified pub.--Rkihara 04:39, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, March 1953

Added letters from L. Sprague de Camp and James Blish to your verified pub.--Rkihara 04:41, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, January 1953

Added letter from Walter M. Miller, Jr. to your verified pub.--Rkihara 04:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Science Fiction, March 1970

Added letters from George W. Price, Jean Marie Stine, Jerry Kaufman, Darrel Schweitzer, and Michael Juergens, to your verifed pub.--Rkihara 16:34, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Super Science Stories, April 1951

I added the cover to Super Science Stories, April 1951 from my copy. MLB 22:52, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, February 1951

Added letters by Tom Covington, George O'Toole, Vernon L. McCain, John Brunner, and Dirce Archer to your verified pub.--Rkihara 18:53, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, March 1951

Added letter by Joe Gibson to your verified pub.--Rkihara 21:28, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, April 1951

Added letter by Gerry de la Ree to your verified pub.--Rkihara 21:44, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, August 1951

Added letters from Alex Saunders, and R. J. Banks, jr. to your verifed pub.--Rkihara 21:14, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, October 1953

Added letters from J. J. Coupling, Larry Maddock, and Tom Godwin to your verified pub.--Rkihara 05:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, December 1953

Added letters from L. Sprague de Camp, George W. Price, and John D. Buddhue to your verified pub.--Rkihara 05:48, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, March 1954

Added letter by Les Cole to your verified pub.--Rkihara 17:49, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, April 1954

Added letter by Poul Anderson to your verified pub.--Rkihara 17:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, June 1954

Added letters from Isaac Asimov and Larry Maddock to your verified pub.--Rkihara 18:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, July 1954

Added letter by Richard M. Hodgens to your verified pub.--Rkihara 20:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, August 1954

Added letters from Isaac Asimov, L. Sprague de Camp, and Chad Oliver to your verified pub.--Rkihara 20:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, September 1954

Added letters from Wallace West and L. Sprague de Camp to your verified pub.--Rkihara 21:00, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, October 1954

Added letter by J. J. Coupling to your verified pub.--Rkihara 21:13, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, November 1954

Added letter from Rhinehart S. Potts to your verified pub--Rkihara 21:24, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, December 1954

Added letters by A. Hyatt Verrill and P. Schuyler Miller to your verified pub.--Rkihara 21:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, January 1955

Added letter by Manly Banister to your verifeld pub.--Rkihara 20:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, February 1955

Added letter from Eric Frank Russell to your verified pub.--Rkihara 20:29, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, May 1955

Added letters by Noreen Kane Falasca and James England to your verified pub.--Rkihara 23:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)