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"Fifth Indian Lake Conference" by Don Ford

Can you see if this piece which appears in both Universe, May 1954 and Science Stories, April 1954 is identical. I just noticed that the magazines have the same publisher. I didn't want to merge the two records unless they're identical. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Identical text. Merged. Thanks.--swfritter 21:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Jul 54 Orbit

Here's some more art credits that can be made out in this: The art for "The Lure of the Satellite" and "Why Skeets..." is signed by Schecterson (he's already got some credits in the database). "The Dog That Liked Carmen" is signed by Faragasso but all but the tops of the letters are chopped off. Jonschaper 03:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. I also added the issue numbers to the magazine titles since that is what is printed on the spine. Makes it easier to find the right issue although I can only assume that issue #4 and #5 have that information on the spine since, in both cases, that part of the spine is missing. It would have been alright by me if you add fixed the credits and notified me. Thanks!--swfritter 21:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Theodora DuBois, Famous Fantastic Mysteries, June 1948

You are the primary verifier for this issue of Famous Fantastic Mysteries. The issue is listed as containing the story "The Devil's Spoon" by "Theodora DuBois". On the cover of this issue, and the cover of her 1930 publication of this story, her name is presented as "Theodora Du Bois", with a space. Can you check how it is spelled on the story title page for this story? I'm expecting to correct this spelling, but of course we rely on the name presented on the title page, so I shouldn't do this based on the cover alone. Thanks, Chavey 14:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

All references are actually with a space. I have approved your submission and will fix my mag.--swfritter 15:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Did not realize when I did the approval that there would be stray publications that still have DuBois. This one was primarily verified, this one secondarily, this one not verified. Probably should have done them as variant titles. I also transferred the author data for DuBois to Du Bois.--swfritter 16:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to upload the cover image of the Curtis pb of Solution T-25, which doesn't give a space in the author's last name. I'm not sure how the interior credit gives the name. Scott Latham pops up every now and then, but doesn't respond to inquiries on his wiki talk page. I'm tempted to leave it be and not create a pseudonym until we have proof positive. Mhhutchins 16:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I suspect we should leave it as is and make one a variant title of the other. WorldCat lists all editions of this book as by "Du Bois", but they do not have the Curtis edition. Various book covers I've found of hers (e.g. by an Amazon search) shows some books with "Du Bois", some with "du Bois", and some with "DuBois". The official repository of her papers spells it "DuBois". That would tend to imply that her "Legal Name" is DuBois. And I'll submit a change to that effect. BLongley has weighed in on this particular name as well. I think we should list one as a variant of the other, and leave both names in the system. What I'm not sure of is which should be a pseudonym of the other: Her legal name appears to be "DuBois", but the majority of her SF pubs seem to be under "Du Bois". Chavey 16:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
And users will be able to find it either way.--swfritter 14:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

"Carrie Ann(e) Baade"

Could you please check whether it's "Carrie Ann Baade" or "Carrie Anne Baade" (as confirmed by Amazon's Look Inside for another pub) in your verified Shimmer, Number 10? TIA! Ahasuerus 03:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

My ebook copy is probably on my old computer, so I will have to track it down but the Shimmer website credits Carrie Ann.--swfritter 14:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Carrie Ann in the ebook, too. This person?--swfritter 18:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
That looks about right, thanks! Apparently the copyright page of the book visible via Look-Inside is in error, so it's pseudonym time! :-) Ahasuerus 18:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Great Science Fiction About Doctors

I think I have the same edition of this you have, only the wrong cover is shown. Mine has a caduceus (doctor's sign) on a black background. If yours is the same I'll move the image to the 4th printing, and upload a new scan. Thanks, --Willem H. 12:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

The cover on mine is similar to yours. Go ahead. Thanks.--swfritter 14:38, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! The new image is now visible. --Willem H. 15:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

False Spelling or a pseudonym?

Could you please check the interview in your verified pub: is it really Kristine Kathyrn (instead of Kathryn) Rusch who is interviewed? Stonecreek 14:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

She is credited correctly in the ToC. Changed credit and updated notes. Thanks.--swfritter 14:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Horrors in Hiding cover credit

this pub credits Vincent Di Fate as cover artist, but I can't find any credit in the pub, nor is a signature visible. Google shows little more than ISFDB pages and Jane Frank is silent about this one. Do you know where the credit came from? It could be correct, the image is similar to this one. Also, the copyright page has SBN 425-02303-6. Should this be converted to ISBN 0-425-02303-6? Thanks, --Willem H. 20:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

The credit was probably already there as the secondary verifications were done shortly before I made the primary.Made appropriate changes based upon current information. Contento does not list artist so the only other possible source in the verification section is Currey. Perhaps someone can check Currey.--swfritter 23:36, 4 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I've added a cartoon listing to the Summer 1952 Fantastic Jonschaper 02:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Am I responsible for the one on page 53 that doesn't have a date?--swfritter 14:22, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
No, that was the one that Jonschaper added to the pub. I accepted the submission, without noticing that it was undated. It should, of course, have the same date as the issue. Sorry. Mhhutchins 08:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I entered the cartoon that way because it is a reprint of uknown date and I was going to add a note -- the magazine it originally appeared in is mentioned (London Mystery News or something like that -- I don't have it in front of me at the moment) but it is undated. Jonschaper 22:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Ah! That makes sense. Notes in both the pub and the title record of the cartoon would seem to make sense. Your other contributions have been so rock solid that I figured there must be more to the story. Thanks.--swfritter 01:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
So why haven't you asked about moderatorship yet? BLongley 02:35, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Adding license tag to TOC for Daily Science Fiction

I've gone back and added a license tag to each of the images for the Daily Science Fiction tables of content. Here's the template: {{TOC|<tag>|<name>}}. In place of <tag> enter the issue's record number, and in the <name> space, enter the title and month of the issue. So for the February 2011 issue, I entered the tag "DLSCNCFCTB2011" and the name "Daily Science Fiction, February 2011". Here's the result of editing the image's wiki page with the TOC template. This template was designed to be used for the images we snatched from webzine's contents pages, but it's the closest I could find that relates to this email/website publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 08:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Something I do only once a month so, with short term memory issues, I have something "new" to learn every month.--swfritter 14:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

"My 100 Most Readable (and Re-Readable) Science Fiction Novels"

Just a note that I have corrected the spelling of Frederik Pohl's name in your verified My 100 Most Readable (and Re-Readable) Science Fiction Novels. The Note field already says "There are numerous misspellings of author names and titles. Those misspellings have been corrected to match existing database entries", so I didn't touch it. Ahasuerus 01:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Luckett of the Moon by Slater LeMaster from Bleiler's Science-Fiction: The Early Years

The serial currently as by Slater LeMaster Luckett of the Moon has notes on the individual installments that the data came from Bleiler's Science Fiction: The Early Years for which you are one of the two editors who has a verified copy. Other references to this author and even this serial (Tuck, Clute/Nicholls) have the author's name as "Slater La Master" so I'm pretty certain we currently have the name wrong. Could you check the Bleiler book to see if the mistake is his or ours. I'll happily make the changes and add notes if appropriate. Also cross posting to Hauk's talk as he has the other verified copy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Hauk got to it first. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 17:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
I have also updated the review to indicate the way Bleiler lists the name. Because of the number of entries in the Bleiler book this is probably a better place than pub notes to list disparities.--swfritter 15:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Astounding, December 1955

Were the two interior art pieces for "Far from Home" in this pub credited to different artists? The record currently gives credit of the first piece to Emsh and the second one to Freas. It's rare but I suppose it's possible. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 17:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Totally Emsh. Changed credit. Undid variant relationship and deleted former Freas canonical.--swfritter 17:55, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Appreciate it. Mhhutchins 20:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Probable a typo

Hi, shouldn't be this item titled as Science Fiction Stories, March 1958 instead of ... 1957? Stonecreek 11:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. Cover art data is generated automatically. The magazine may have been originally entered with the wrong pub date. Changed the date. Thanks.--swfritter 14:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Crossed Genres

Would you do me a favor and look at Crossed Genres and tell me how you think we should go about recording it? I just picked up the Fixer submission of Crossed Genres Quarterly 01 (you can also see CGP's blurb), which came through as an anthology. Now I'm wondering if we should do it as a magazine. But then, it seems the individual web issues should be magazines, making these quarterly publications anthologies (or omnibuses?), or do they? I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. --MartyD 01:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

The webzine version is doable as a magazine because it is issue-based and has ToC's that can be clipped and saved as jpeg files. The bad news is that some of the stories are no longer available online; the good news is that they are documented. And some of the issues do not have obvious SpecFic content although I would suspect those issues might have a SpecFic tone. The anthologies could be done like "Destinies".--swfritter 13:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
The anthology issue: A lot of work to figure out which stories might be SpecFic and which not. Might have to bite the bullet and not be too fine about trying to make the determination as most of the stories would be probably be of interest to SpecFic readers.--swfritter 13:56, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. There's further good news in that Year One and Year Two were published (at least in part) as books, too. If the first issue was Dec '08, then those might cover everything up to this "quarterly" publication. They claim that all stories "must" combine the theme-of-the-month with science fiction or fantasy, so if that proved to be their general practice, it seems we'd want to treat this as a genre magazine and record everything. I will look into it more when I have some time. Do you think it would ok to put anthologies and the individual issues into a single editor series (from an organizational point of view; I'll do a local test to see how badly the display software might react...)? I suppose I could make the quarterlies their own sub-series. --MartyD 15:33, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
We need two series. One for the magazine and one for the anthology. Otherwise the magazine grids look kind of wacky. I just got through taking a Planet Stories facsimile reprint out the magazine series for that same reason.--swfritter 16:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Like Strange Horizons the issue listings are all on one page so we could keep a website reference by saving that page which would mean we would not have to do screen shots of the ToC for each issue. Just noticed that #17 and onward are actually available as ebooks so they should be entered as such.--swfritter 21:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps a sub-series solution?--swfritter 14:10, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I like sub-series. I think that will work well here. I will set about entering each issue, and we can always change the organization later if we don't like it. Thanks for the ideas and pointers. --MartyD 14:01, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Looks like #17 on are in print, too, and on Amazon with Look Inside.... How handy. --MartyD 14:08, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

(unindent)This mag is actually a little tricky as far as determining which binding to use. If it is available in web, print, & ebook editions. With magazines the general practice has been to prioritize by entering only one of the formats with the highest priority being the print issue. Based upon my experiences the contents of the ebook version can be expected to be identical. I would think that there would be some upset readers otherwise. I would completely ignore the web version if there was a print or ebook verson. If you don't have an ebook or print version of the pub, the web data can be used to enter the date as long as you make it clear in the pub the source of the data. If entries are made for more than one format the display issues with the magazine grid would make it necessary to use a separate series for each format.--swfritter 21:39, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Right. In fact, thank you for spelling that out. I have done TQF as just single entries despite print + ebook and suddenly had this nagging worry that I should have done something different.... --MartyD 11:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Looks great. --swfritter 13:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Looks like all of them were published in print, and I can find them all on Amazon. I did this with regard to the various series. I'm open to other suggestions/reconfigurations. Also, do you think "pb" is ok for the print mags, or would something else be more appropriate? Createspace calls them "trade paperback", and Amazon calls them "paperback", but I suspect the latter does that for anything printing and not hardcover.... --MartyD 17:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Jim Baen's Universe

It seems you have the primary verifications on these pubs. I believe the catalog numbers are in need of some maintenance. It seems WebScription Ebooks - Jim Baen's Universe lists issues with catalog numbers in the ten digit format: <8-digit-issn><1-digit-volume><1-digit-issue> and individual prices at $6.00 each (even though earlier ISDB pub records list "$30.00 per year"; perhaps that was the original list price). Jim Baen's Universe, June 2006, Jim Baen's Universe, June 2008, and Jim Baen's Universe, December 2008 are currently showing as a valid ISBNs but methinks such is incorrect. I assume you won't have issues with my updating such things but since you are the primary verifier (on I believe every issue but I did not check all 24) I thought I would ask. Thanks, Uzume 15:27, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I did all 24 issues. If my memory serves me correctly the ISBN's were pretty much totally fouled up. The numbers I entered were based upon information actually in the magazines themselves. Using the numbers you list above makes more sense even though those catalog numbers would not be consistent with the data actually in the magazines. When it first came out I think the magazine was only available by subscription but the $6.00 price would actually make sense.--swfritter 21:49, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Changed all the prices to $6.00. The ID numbers are actually listed in many cases as ISBN numbers in the magazine but there are a number of cases where 10 and 13 digit numbers which are totally inconsistent are listed; some probably only format as ISBN's by chance. Many of the issues list only the ISSN number. Data entry should primarily reflect data found within a pub so I will think about how I want to enter the data probably going with the website SKU's.--swfritter 13:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Data Cleanup Scripts

I've overdosed a little on these recently, and have left Ahasuerus a lot of new scripts to check before they go live. One of them helps find Duplicate Pub Tags, which I think was a recent concern of yours. Are you anywhere near getting a local copy working so you can test it? The Developers page still says "The following editors are currently in the process of setting up a local copy of the application: Swfritter". Have you given up trying? BLongley 23:57, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I had it running once on a local linux setup. Worked fine for a week until linux moved on to a newer version which exhausted the resources of my old 512mb laptop. Should have turned off updates. I have a newer desktop and may try again on my older desktop but by the time I do that it may be totally obsolete, too. That old laptop runs like a demon when I clean install Windows XP sp0 but by the time sp3 and virus checkers are installed it slows to a crawl.--swfritter 13:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't know if this will persuade you to try again, but I submitted some additions for Support for multiple web links at title level, which was a feature you apparently thought quite a high priority. BLongley 17:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I did get Linux installed my newer (6 years old) laptop and I might give it another try. It was totally discouraging to actually get ISFDB running locally only to see the Linux upgrade make my computer totally unusable a week later.--swfritter 13:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
I know the feeling. I still have 3 laptops lying around that I don't want to discard, but the amount of work required to make them usable again is discouraging. I seem to be killing monitors far too often though, so it's nice to have something to make sure it's not my video card that's dead instead. BLongley 00:08, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
My hardware NEVER dies! I wish it would then I could get rid of it.--swfritter 13:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
"Support for multiple web links at title level" is now live. I hope you can remember why you wanted it. Or is it no good without "Alias" functionality? BLongley 18:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Other Worlds, Other Seas

Please take a look here, and comment if you like. It's about one of your primary2 verifications. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:30, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


I wonder if your verified Gynomorphs: Three Classic SF Novellas About Women Who Become Men was edited by Jean Marie Sine or Jean Marie Stine? Ahasuerus 00:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Right! The great thing about ebooks: it took me five seconds to consult the book - less time than it took me to type this line.--swfritter 13:09, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Satellite Science Fiction, February 1957

I am not sure if you have seen this submission which aims to change Title dates in your verified pub? Ahasuerus 15:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.--swfritter 16:43, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Science-Fiction Carnival

In this verified pub I changed the credit for "The Swordsmen of Varnis" from Geoffrey Cobbe to Clive Jackson. The pseudonym is not mentioned in the pub. Also added notes. --Willem H. 09:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Arthur C. Clarke's "Ultimate Melody"

You verified this pub which contains The Ultimate Melody and this pub which contains Ultimate Melody. I wanted to check whether these are the same story. Would you mind checking? Thanks. --JLaTondre 17:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Same story but with some added framing sections for the "White Hart" version.--swfritter 20:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Beneath Ceaseless Skies

Ahasuerus has not only implemented the second part of the fix to prevent Duplicate Pub Tags, but the new "Cleanup Scripts" option for Moderators allows you to find the remaining problems. Please try it out - I know that you could just search for "BNTHCSLSSB2009" etc but that's no fun for me. BLongley 03:40, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

It looks like I will have to create some duplicate tags in order to see how it works.--swfritter 13:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
This was the only title that had duplicate tags, which I cleaned up the other night after running Bill's script. I replaced the last two alpha characters (before the 4-digit year) with the issue number. There were about a dozen or so issues that had duplicate tags. After fixing them, I went to the make the corrections on the Wiki magazine page for the title, but saw that there was no issue grid there, only a link to the db's issue grid. This is not to say that any future issues may duplicate existing tags. Mhhutchins 14:21, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
The chances of the system duplicating an existing tag should be fairly astronomical by now, but user-created duplications may still be possible. As we're trying to move away from Pub Tags it might be wise to remove the "Tag:" option entirely for new Magazines - we don't allow it for anything else, including Fanzines. BLongley 20:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
The good thing about the db grid is that it uses record number instead of tag. I use record number instead of tags for wiki entries also. No chance of duplication with them. Your might also notice a wikipedia link in the merged EDITOR record for 2011. I think John Joseph Adams did this for "Fantasy Magazine" and it actually seems like a good idea so used that idea. It actually might make sense to link to wikipedia from the db grid instead of trying to maintain the wiki pages. If we had series notes we could put any information they don't have in those notes.--swfritter 14:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
That sounds like FR 2827430 "Add a free text Note field to Series records" and maybe FR 2824361 "Support Wikipedia link for series". I will get round to such, but am waiting to see if I did FR 3042002 "Support for multiple web links at title level" right first. BLongley 20:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
It seems like the standard is to release beta software to the world. At least we do it incrementally and don't screw up everything else. Firefox 4.0 being an example.--swfritter 20:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
I wish I'd remembered this comment. I moved to Firefox 4.0 a few days ago and so far there's been no benefits and a lot of pain. BLongley 18:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Ahasuerus and I are rather timid about changes at times - understandably, as we have had cock-ups even after double-testing (we're developing and testing on Windows and implementing on Linux). We do seem to have different areas of doubt and uncertainty though - for instance, he's suggesting some more improvements to "My Primary Verifications" before it goes live, whereas I think it performs reasonably well and the enhancements might make it perform worse. And we don't really have a clear requirement stated anywhere. But we muddle through eventually - I can't recall the last time we made something worse. BLongley 21:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Divine Intervention by Julia Eklar

Two things about this review: one, I think the surname might properly be "Ecklar" and two, I don't think this is a book but a music album. Am I right? BLongley 23:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Changed spelling of name but might wait for input from Ron. Poetry is in and songs are a type of poetry.--swfritter 23:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Robert Silverberg's "King of the Golden World"

You verified this pub which contains King of the Golden World. There is also an another title record for this title which has no publications, but has a variant relationship to The King of the Golden River. As you also verified a pub (third verifier) containing that story, can you check that it really is a variant and that the "King of the Golden World" records can be merged? Thanks. --JLaTondre 13:52, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Same story. Merge of stray variant done.--swfritter 16:42, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Science Fiction Stories May 1959

When entering the UK quasi-correponding issue here, I've found a second interior illustration for the first story and managed to identify the artist for the serial, so perhaps this can apply to your verified here. Hauck 15:19, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Changes incorporated.--swfritter 21:39, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

De Camp Essay

In this issue here, you classify De Camp's text as a shortfiction. As I think that's it's more an essay (it's called an article in Venture SF [UK]), I changed it to the Nonfiction type. Can you confirm ? Hauck 20:37, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Contento lists it as an essay also so that seems like an appropriate classification. Thanks.--swfritter 22:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Satellite, April 1959

Leo Morey's contribution on page 27 of this issue looks like an error in type. Mhhutchins 19:46, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Also check Future, May 1951, page 86 by Luros. Mhhutchins 19:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
One more issue to check: Planet Stories, January 1954, page 76 by uncredited. Mhhutchins 19:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
And another: Super Science Stories, September 1949, page 47 by uncredited. Mhhutchins 19:58, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
This one's primary verified by Mike Christie, who hasn't been around much. I'm hoping you might have a copy of Infinity, August 1956, page 73, "The Fool" by Weston. Mhhutchins 20:09, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
This one is in Imaginative Tales, July 1956, page 99 by uncredited. Mhhutchins 20:12, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Another uncredited one on page 27 of Saturn, March 1958. Mhhutchins 20:14, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
And here's one in Satellite SF, February 1959, page 53 by uncredited. Mhhutchins 20:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
One from the 21st century: Aeon One, page 116 by Martin Cannon. And in the same issue, page 167 by uncredited. Mhhutchins 20:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
And from a different issue of the same title Aeon Thirteen, page 167 by uncredited. Mhhutchins 20:18, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about all the questions, I took one of Ahasuerus' ideas and created a small ISFDB:Dup_Shortfiction project. BLongley 21:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Fixed. I did not update the project page since ny fixes seemed to have cleared all but Weird Tales and Omni.--swfritter 13:24, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Planet Stories / Paizo Publishing, LLC

You verified The Dark World by Henry Kuttner, with "Planet Stories" as publisher. I would like to change the publisher to "Paizo Publications, LLC" and make Planet Stories a publication series. The copyright page should state it's #16 in the series. Can you agree? Thanks, --Willem H. 19:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC) You verified three of the Planet Stories series, Black God's Kiss, Elak of Atlantis and Northwest of Earth, with "Planet Stories" as publisher. I would like to change the publisher to "Paizo Publications, LLC" and make Planet Stories a publication series. The notes already state they're #3, #4 and #6 in the series. Can you agree? Thanks, --Willem H. 19:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Sounds great!--swfritter 00:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Finished. Result is here. You might want to look at the notes again. Thanks, --Willem H. 20:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Looks great!,--swfritter 11:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Worlds of Tomorrow

Just in case, I've just added a scan for your verified WOT 08-63 and WoT 10-63 and WoT 12-63, please forgive the big ugly UK price superposed on original price. Hauck 18:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Worlds of Tomorrow (2)

Added scans for WoT 01-65, WoT 05-65, WoT 07-65, WoT 11-65 where I also changed pages for the start of PKD's serial, WoT 03-1966, WoT 02-1967, WoT Summer 1970 and the last one. I don't know if i's worth mentionning but some of my issues have a build-in subscription coupon (forming a "Buisness Reply Mail" card when detached) between pages. Hauck 08:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

The advertising would only be of any significance at all if they have implicit page numbers. I found a couple of magazines where that was the case and I mentioned that in the notes for those pubs.--swfritter 16:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Worlds of Tomorrow May 1965

Can you please have a look at your copy of this issue as it seems to me that Moore's text is titled _Bogeymen_ (instead of _Bogeyman_), can you confirm ? Hauck 08:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Right you are. Changed titles for story and artwork.--swfritter 16:58, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Worlds of Tomorrow Spring 1971

On this pub Duncan's story seems to be titled _On Venus the Thunder Precedes the Lightning_ instead of your verified _On Venus the Lightning Precedes the Thunder_ (as on TOC), note that __On Venus the Thunder Precedes the Lightning_ seems more logical as different from Earth. Can you confirm ? Hauck 10:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Makes sense. Made the change. Not he only ToC mistake on this issue.--swfritter 17:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Worlds of If

Replaced the Visco cover on your verified here and modified notes accordingly. Added one interior art (page 60) to here. Idem for here page 112 and here page 20. Added note about Giunta here. Hauck 13:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

The Weird Ones

Is H. L. Gold actually credited as the editor of this book? Reginald1 says it was uncredited, and anonymously edited by Ivan Howard. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 21:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Contento concurs. There is nothing in the H. L. Gold preface to indicate that he is the editor.--swfritter 10:45, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

If, December 1967

In this pub, I changed the title of Clarke's essay (deleting "Guest Editorial" and adding "Roberts" in the middle) in order to merge it nicely with its other occurences. Is it all right for you ? Hauck 16:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Fine by me.--swfritter 16:30, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

If, May 1968

Added an S to the title of Carter's essay (_New CurrentS in fandom_). Hauck 18:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.--swfritter 21:54, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

SF Yearbook

Added cover to your verified here and found artist for Bradbury's and St Clair's story => Leo Morey in both cases, also for Hamilton's, cf. signature (even if barely legible) and previous publication. Hauck 08:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Idem for #2. Hauck 08:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

And for #3. Hauck 09:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

And for #4. Hauck 09:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

And finaly for #5. Hauck 09:32, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks good.--swfritter 11:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

The Supernatural Reader by Conklin

Is Lucy Conklin credited as co-editor in this printing? All of the other Collier reprints give Groff Conklin as the sole editor. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 23:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

The copyright is for Groff and Lucy although the credit on the title page is Groff only. Contento credits both. In order to be consistent with other pubs and the title page it would probably make sense to have a single editor and place a title note. Note that an editor known for entering details documented the credit situation in this pub.--swfritter 16:56, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
If you'll correct your pub, I'll make it (along with the other Collier printings) a variant title record of the original record which credits both Groff and Lucy. Mhhutchins 17:39, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Done. Duplicated the note from the verified pub mentioned above.--swfritter 19:08, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

F&SF December 1957

Can you confirm the data that is provided in the review of Who's Who in Science Fiction in this issue of F&SF? I can't find any listing of this title anywhere. Neither Tuck nor Reginald have a record of it. The only record on the entire Internet is our website. I'm trying to figure out why only Lewis is credited in the pub and both Lewis and Hopkins are credited in the title record. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 23:53, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

This may well be an 8888. Or perhaps it was published under another title. FPCI was not an especially stable publisher. The review is of a book that had not yet been published. It had a pre-publication price of $4.50. I would assume it was the no longer active first primary verifier of the mag who entered the book data. Ron also has a verification for this pub and unless he has more information I can update the book to add the other author to the pub and 8888 it with an explanation that the review in F&SF is the only known source of publication data.--swfritter 00:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
In any case, the author(s) of the pub record should match those of the title record. That's what brought it to my attention to begin with. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:57, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
It does seem a bit odd that there is no other reference to this work so 8888 does seem appropriate. Synchronized authors, 8888'd it, and added explanatory notes.--swfritter 14:07, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Sounds like it would have been a very handy reference. Everyone would have to wait a decade until Strauss's NESFA index came out to get the magazine index, and I would love to read all those autobiographies that were solicited and never published. (I've copied your note to the title record in case someone finds it first.) Mhhutchins 15:48, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Since the notes apply to all "known" editions that makes sense; there are many other cases where data in pub notes is probably more appropriate at the title level. I suppose it is possible that parts or even all of the book turned up elsewhere even if only in fan publications.--swfritter 16:45, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Primary Transients

I can easily supply a hyper-linked list of Primary Transients for you if you want them. Just tell me where to put the wiki-page for such - or I could just email the list if you'd prefer to review them more privately. BLongley 19:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

It's not for me. My SQL skill are adequate enough for that purpose. I thought others might be interested.--swfritter 13:54, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

"Search" by Geoffrey A. Landis

You asked for consultation before adding to this. It appears from this page that the poem "Search" by Geoffrey A. Landis first appeared in this issue. BLongley 18:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Poem added and appropriate notes added at pub and title level. The notice in the pub is primarily aimed at editors who are not aware of the past data entry history of this magazine. It would have been fine if you had made the addition and left a note on the Community Portal.--swfritter 12:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the trust, but I always get wary when editing another active editor's work. This came about when I was fixing contents for a publication showing on our front page - if we can't be trusted to get those right, how will we be trusted for anything else? BLongley

How the Day Runs Down

I changed the publication date of John Langan's How the Day Runs Down from 2008-12 to 2008-10 as the The Living Dead claims it is original to that publication. --JLaTondre 21:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

What hath George Romero wrought? He should get a check for every zombie story published since "Night of the Living Dead". And he doesn't even make money on that because the copyright wasn't done correctly.--swfritter 22:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
There are so many Zombie stories or reworkings around that I'm tempted to add those to the "Add quick tag" options. I just have to finish "The Old Testament - with Zombies!" first. (I considered "The Koran - with Zombies!" but I remember what happened to Salman Rushdie, and I already look too much like him. :-( ) BLongley 23:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Don't really have any more to say on this subject but the only way to clear the New Messages message from the main screen is to respond. In any case, it is always nice to have the last word no matter what the subject.--swfritter 13:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
You shouldn't have to respond to clear it, only read it. It probably is important that you're logged in to the Wiki as well as the DB proper though. If you were logged into both before reading, and the message still appears, then that's a bug that should be reported. (Probably not one I can be sure of fixing though, I don't have a local Wiki install available for testing.) BLongley 18:16, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I probably read it by accessing my talk page directly rather than using the link. Unfortunately my Windows mind-senser is only XP compatible. I need to get the one that works with Windows 7; it should tell the system that I have read the message.--swfritter 19:05, 19 May 2011 (UTC)


There's a missing cartoon listing (untitled and uncredited) in Other Worlds, July 1952 on p. 161 Jonschaper 03:43, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and submitted the addition Jonschaper 03:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Short Article

The August 1952 F&SF has a short filler article on p.51 "Les Chevaux Dans le Sky" by uncredited re the search for a French label for SF. Jonschaper 04:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


I added a listing for a cartoon on p.13 of the Fall 1952 Fantastic. Jonschaper 04:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


Del Rey's editorial in the Sep 1952 Space Science Fiction is entitled "An Editorial on Telepathy" Jonschaper 04:44, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

In fact, all the SSF editorials seems to have titles on this format ("An editorial on XXXXX"). Hauck 14:09, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Paul Dell

Hello. I'm verifying the whole run of the magazine _Spaceway_. As some illustrations credited to Paul Blaisdell are signed "Paul Dell" (in a square), I decided to make Paul Dell (who has the same signature) a pseudonym of Paul Blaisdell. Hauck 14:03, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Spaceway Science Fiction Feb 1955

Hello. I changed the title of Smith's novelet to _The Towers of Silence_ (it was _the Tower of Silence_). Do you agree ? Thanks. Hauck 14:12, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

F&SF Jan-Feb 2011

I added the CID (image data and license) to this image. Mhhutchins 01:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

And to this one also. Mhhutchins 01:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Barry N. Malzberg's A Triptych

You verified this pub which contains A Triptych and this pub which contains Triptych. Are these two stories variants of each other (same story, absence of "A" correct)? Thanks. --JLaTondre 23:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate art credit

Hi, there are two credits for "The Deadly Dust [2]" here. I assume one should be numbered [3]. Jonschaper 02:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Also two credits for "Son of the Tree [2]" hereJonschaper 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and submitted an edit for "The Deadly Dust" changing one to "3". As the "Son of the Tree" entries are on consecutive pages I thought it better to let you check that first. Jonschaper 04:05, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, June 1972

Hello, in this pub, I think that the Siodmak story is titled _Variation of a Theme_ instead of _Variations on a Theme_, can you have a look at your copy ? Thanks. Hauck 05:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, September 1972

Hello, in this pub, I think that the Kearny story is titled _A Sweet Little Pool of Low-Cost Labor_ instead of _A Sweet Little Pool of Low Cost Labor_ (without hyphen), can you have a look at your copy? Thanks. Hauck 05:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reference to Incorrect Month

Hi, I've changed references in titles for Brass Tacks and other series from September to July 1960 in the July 1960 AnalogJonschaper 01:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Also changed the reference to August for "According to You" to September for the September 1960 Fantastic Jonschaper 01:26, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction, May 1962

Please check your verified Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction, May 1962 to see if Nor Iron Bars a Cage is by Johnathan or Jonathan Blake MacKenzie. Please see Author:Randall Garrett#Johnathan vs. Jonathan and MacKenzie vs. Mac Kenzie. --Marc Kupper|talk 01:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

On the same Randall Garrett page also see Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction, December 1963 and Analog Science Fiction -> Science Fact, October 1965. If your magazines are stored together you might as well check Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction, November 1962. Thanks! --Marc Kupper|talk 01:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

One more is the anthology Analog 3 --Marc Kupper|talk 01:41, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Garret[t] W. Vance

Would you check whether the cover artist on your verified Jim Baen's Universe April 2009 and June 2009 spells the first name with one "t" or two? Rick Boatright from 1632 was questioning the misspelling on the Grantville Gazettes, which as far as I can tell are all mistaken (we have one "t", but should be two). But I found a spot on that misspelled it, so it could be wrong somewhere in Baen's database.... Thanks. --MartyD 00:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know what I was looking at. I see they both have it with two t's.... Must be bed time or something. --MartyD 02:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Science Fiction Greats, Winter 1969 (No. 16)

I was wondering if this Finlay title in Science Fiction Greats, Winter 1969 (No. 16) is really Short Fiction or if it should be Interior Art. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Art Credit Numbering

I fixed up the numbering for Finlay's illustrations of "Serapian" here. There were two "4"s, so I changed one to "5", and changed "5" to "6". Jonschaper 03:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate listing?

There are two credits for a Finlay illustration on page 10 here. Subsequent illustrations are numbered. Jonschaper 03:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

7th Year's Best SF, by Judith Merril

I have corrected the page number of the Jules Feiffer cartoon "Looking Backward" from p. 153 to p. 154 in your verified edition of this book. Chavey 04:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Galaxy, Dec. 1966

In verifying Judith Merril's SF 12, I noticed that the story we have listed as Primary Education of the Camiroi is actually listed in that book as THE Primary Education of the Camiroi. The copyright page of that book implies that this was the title used in the story's first appearance in the Dec. 1966 Galaxy, for which you are the verifier. Could you check that issue to verify how the title is listed there? Thanks, Chavey 02:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Weird Heroes 1 and 2

I have updated Weird Heroes 1, but placed my submission on hold awaiting your approval. I added the coverartist, notes and the various introductions and afterwords. One thing I'm not entirely sure of is how to credit the story introductions. They are not ecplicitely credited to Byron Preiss, but from the text it's clear who wrote them, and Preiss is the editor of course. If you can agree, I would like to treat volume 2 the same way. Thanks, --Willem H. 12:49, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Changes are fine; go ahead and approve the submission. Feel free to make the same changes to vol 2.--swfritter 15:47, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response! Approved and will do vol.2 today or tomorrow. --Willem H. 15:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Volume 2 completed. See here for the resuld (and please check?) Thanks, --Willem H. 18:54, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic May 1966

Added five interior art pieces to [this] but was hesitant to add [reprint] to three of them as I don't know if all the artwork is indeed reprinted. --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:32, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

SF: The Year's Greatest Science Fiction and Fantasy: 4th Annual Volume

After this discussion I added the Asimov essay after the poem "The Thunder-Thieves" to this verified pub under the title "The Thunder-Thieves (afterword)". Hope you can agree. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:10, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Cantine: Holly vs Holley

Can you check this pub for the spelling of Holly/Holley Cantine's name? I think the canonical name should be Holley (my edition of Judith Merril's anthology, Contento and the NESFA-index and even agree. If all verified publications have the same name, I can change it. Thanks, --Willem H. 15:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Ron Kihara already responded and changed the name to Holley. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:21, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic Science Fiction, August 1952

Hi, can you please check this pub for the spelling of Kinnon/Kennon. It's a review of his book "Astronomy" on page 41. Cheers, P-Brane 03:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC).

Judith Merril's 6th Annual Edition: the Year's Best S-F

In this verified pub I changed the author of "Double, Double, Toil and Trouble" from 'Holly Cantine' to 'Holley Cantine' (see also the note about Holly vs Holley above), and added a note about Fredric Brown. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:43, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Analog, September 1961

Can you see if there are only four pieces by Ivie for "The Blaze of Noon" in this issue. Someone has entered the UK edition of this issue with five pieces. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Analog, February 1962

Can you confirm the Simak title reviewed on page 165 of this issue? As reprinted in the UK edition, Time is the Simplest Thing was reviewed, not The Trouble With Tycho. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 14:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Astounding, October 1954

Can you check this issue to see if the interiorart listed on page 58 is correctly numbered? Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:45, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I took the liberty to have a look at my copy and I corrected the numbering (should have been 6). Hauck 16:42, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Science Fiction Stories, January 1960

Can you confirm the author credited for "The Coffin Ship" (page 6) in this issue? Miller/Contento gives it as "Bill Wesley" rather than "Bill Westley" (without the "t"). Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:22, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


Hello, if we go by title pages, shouldn't this pub be titled "Impact 20" ? Hauck 17:23, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Done after consultation with other PVs.Hauck 05:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Robert Silverberg's Appropriation

Please see this note I left Hauck.

Also, in case it was overlooked because of the postings that came later, I'd like to point out this earlier note I left you regarding Barry N. Malzberg's A Triptych. If you just haven't had a chance to get to that one yet, then please ignore this part.

Thanks. --JLaTondre 22:32, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

"Singular..." vs. "A Singular..." in 11th Year's Best SF

See User_talk:Scott_Latham#Judith_Merril.27s_11th_.22Year.27s_Best_SF.22. I thought perhaps since Scott doesn't seem to respond to Wiki inquiries and you're the 2-verifier, you might be able to confirm. I will also ask Willem H. (the 3-verifier). Thanks. --MartyD 11:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Chavey is right, and Contento1 is probably wrong, so I changed the title record and left a note for the future verifyer of the Delacorte edition. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

New Writings in SF 7/8/9

Just verified [#9], added the artist from signature on the cover, then discovered that the contents had no stories in common with the similarly numbered UK edition. A little digging and found [#7] has only three stories in common with the UK edition and [#8] also has no stories in common. #1-#6 are fine and Bantam did not do any past #9. I am thinking these three should be unmerged, placed in a sub-series with [Bantam US] or maybe just [US] appended with appropriate title notes to prevent future merges. You are Primary on 8/9 [I just have 9], Rtrace is Primary on 8 [I'll direct him here] but the Primaries on 7 are both inactive/unresponsive. I can do the work, just want some feedback/suggestions. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:08, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I prefer the sub-series and notes to prevent merges rather than changing the title of the individual anthologies. However, in looking closer at the series, it looks like we may have different titles that should be variants in any case. It appears that the verified copies of the UK editions have the title in the form "New Writings in S.F.-1". In general, the Bantam editions follow the parent title form "New Writings in SF 1" (#1 actually has "New Writings in S-F 1"). I think we may actually have a lot of titles that should be variants (where the contents are identical) or just unmerged (where the contents are not). It would probably be good to get a physical verification for of the title. I don't know what we should do with the unverified ones, but Reginald1 has yet a third form of the name for the first editions (Dennis Dobson) for all of these: "New Writings in S-F 1". He also has the 3 Bantams listed as having different contents and yet more formats of the title where the Corgi edition was first ("New Writings in S.F.-11") or Sidgwick & Jackson ("New Wrintings in SF (21)"). I'll go through Reginald and adjust any unverified listings in the next day or two. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 11:57, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I found BLIC to be a good source for the titles as well. Librarians do tend to record exactly what's there, and there are often prices etc. to be had from BLIC. And I had only intended that the sub-series would have a title appendage, not the books themselves [wonder if one can have a series and sub-series with the same name??] Locus1 has the varying contents as well....... --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:29, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Can we have a "series and sub-series with the same name" - no. BLongley 20:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I've made a first pass of edits on the series as a whole and detailed the questions here. I'll next start leaving notes on primary verifiers' pages pointing them to that discussion. I've also left the 3 Bantam volumes un-merged pending the outcome of this discussion. By the way Bill, I'm not familiar with BLIC. I did a quick google of the acronym and couldn't find a hit. Is it an internet resource? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:57, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
British Library Integrated Catalogue. [here] is the 'entry' page. Great for finding prices and they often list all printings. As with LOC ISBNs can't have any dashes or they won't search. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


Changed author from Catherine Crook de Camp to Catherine C. de Camp as per title page in this pub.

Jim Baen's Universe, February 2008

Can you confirm the spelling of the author credit for "Spiderweb" in this issue? Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

And for "Ganny Knits a Spaceship" in JB's Universe, August 2009? Mhhutchins 14:09, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

New Writings in SF

Several of our records for books in this series may have incorrect titles, including some that you have verified. Please see this discussion for full details (sparked by the above discussion). The following books are the ones where I suspect the title is incorrect. I'd appreciate it if you could double check the form of the title in your copy.

  • Bantam edition as "New Writings in S-F 1", should it be "New Writings in SF 1" based on the format of the other Bantam titles in this series?
  • Bantam edition as "New Writings in S- 5". I expect it should be "New Writings in SF 5".
  • Bantam edition as "New Writings in SF-6". I expect it should be "New Writings in SF 6".

Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 20:06, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

One more to check per this discussion. Dirk P Broer's copy of the Bantam edition of number 2 has the title as "New Writings in SF2". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Future Perfect, Revised Edition

I just verified the 1995, Future Perfect: American Science Fiction of the Nineteenth Century (Revised and Expanded Edition) of Future Perfect, and noticed that you had previously verified the 1978 Future Perfect, Revised Edition. I identified several of the essays that at a minimum deserve new dates from the 1978 edition, or maybe the 1995 edition. When you get a chance, you might want to dig out your copy and compare it against some of my notes. Some of the new essays I created might be better backdated to 1978, instead of 1995. Cheers - Kevin 20:20, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Astounding Science Fiction, May 1956

Hello, can you have look at your copy of this issue of Astounding as it seems to me that Siverberg's story is illustrated by Emsh (and that there's a second interior art piece page 58). Hauck 14:19, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Fantasy Publishing Company, Inc.

When you get a chance, could you take a look at this discussion? Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:05, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Analog Science Fact -> Fiction, June 1961

Changed the last word of the title of Willard's essay from "Balloon" to "Rocket" as per title page in [1]. Hauck 16:32, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction, June 1962

Hello, shouldn't Dickson's story in this issue be titled "3-Part Puzzle" instead of "Three-Part Puzzle" as per title page (and shouldn't this title become the canonical one ?) ? Hauck 17:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction, July 1962

Hello, shouldn't Brunner's story in this issue loose its last exclamtion mark (as per title page, but not as per TOC) ? Hauck 17:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Merging Interior Artwork.. in later publications

We would appreciate your input in a discussion on the Rules and Standards board about updating the help with respect to merging artwork (Cover and interior artwork are both under discussion). Thanks - Kevin 16:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Sword and Sceptre

Changed all occurences (Analog 05-73 & 06-73) of this title to _Sword and Scepter_. Hauck 17:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Miscount by C. M. Gloeckner - Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, November 1972

I just corrected the entry in Best Science Fiction Stories of the Year, Second Annual Collection for "Miscount" to be 'as by C. N. Gloeckner', instead of by Carolyn Gloeckner. This revealed that the only instance of C. M. Gloeckner is the appearance of Miscount in Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, November 1972. You might want to check your copy when you get a chance to see if the 'M' is a typo 'N', or if she was published under both initials. - Thanks - Kevin 18:54, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Garen Drussai vs Drussal

Hi, I've changed the author's name to "Drussai" for both his entries here. The dot in the "i" is hard to distinguish on the contents page, making it look like the "l", but can be seen if you look very closely, plus it is spelt with a capital I (distinguishable from their L) on the story pages, and the author has contributed elsewhere as Drussai. Jonschaper 01:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, July 1980

Added the Resnick/Tabakow vignette and changed attche to attaché in this issue. Hauck 18:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Editor credits for Amazing/Fantastic from 8/65 - 11/67

There are 28 issues (14 of each title) which credit "Joseph Ross" (Joseph Wrzos) as the editor in the individual pub records, but Sol Cohen is credited in the editor records. I came across this when working on the "Joseph Ross" issue (see this discussion). Shouldn't the pub records match the editor records, or was this intentional? (I'm leaving a note on Rkihara's page to join in the discussion, as he also verified most of the issues.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Satellite, October 1958

Can you check the spelling of the Noel Loomis serial (and its artwork) in this issue? I just added a book publication of the work and the spellings differ. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Science Fiction Stories, January 1960

Can you verify the spelling of the author's credit for "The Coffin Ship" in this issue? A secondary source (NESFA) gives it as "Bill Wesley" not "Westley". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 03:30, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

David Gerold [sic]

Can you see if the two pieces that were published as by David Gerold in Jim Baen's Universe were actually credited that way, and if so, could they have been written by David Gerrold, and are pseudonym and variants needed? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 20:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'd forgotten that I'd already asked you this back in September (it sounded vaguely familiar). Still waiting on a response. Mhhutchins 22:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Greg Hartman / Greg Hartmann

There are two stories by each of the above authors in two different issues of Galaxy. Do you know if perhaps they're the same person? Or if one or the other name is misspelled, either in the record or the issue itself? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 20:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Annette Peltz McComas vs Annette Pelz McComas

Hi, just stumbled upon this publication. Can you please check whether it is indeed Annette Pelz McComas instead of Annette Peltz McComas for both the title itself and the preface that is published in it? I think that I can even see the 't' in Peltz in the scan that goes with the title. There may be a misprint in the TOC of course. A more clear scan is here. --Dirk P Broer 18:12, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Swfritter has apparently taken a break, but I have a copy and can verify that it's "Peltz."--Rkihara 22:54, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, August 1954

Hello, could you please check in your verified pub the type of this entry : SHORTFICTION for INTERIORART ? Thanks. ChanurBe 06:28, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

It's interior art. I made the correction and re-verified as Primary 2. Swfritter appears to have taken a break.--Rkihara 17:23, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Connor, Ed(ward) / Edward C.

Hi, I saw you verified this publication with three Connor's working in/on it. Ed, Edward and Edward C. Any chance they might be one and the same person, or is this a mere coincidence? --Dirk P Broer 19:30, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos: Volume 2

I added a publication series and a link to the cover image to Derleth's Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos: Volume 2. I also wanted to ask you to check is this other publication is actually the same as yours and one of them should be deleted. I'm leaving this same note on the other verifier's talk page. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:37, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Josepha Sherman / Joesepha Sherman

Hi, could you please check whether either you or the publisher typo'ed with the story "Spacer's Gamble" in Space and Time, #110, Spring 2010? Locus says Josepha, Semiprozine also says so. --Dirk P Broer 09:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Thrilling Wonder Stories, Winter 1955

You verified this magazine, which includes a cartoon on p. 64 attributed to "Homer". The system currently interprets this to be the ancient Greek writer of the Iliad and the Odyssey. Can you verify that this really is how the cartoon is attributed? Presumably, we need to disambiguate these two people, but I'm hoping for a check on the attribution before I go to that trouble. Chavey 03:47, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Orbit, Jul-Aug 1954

I added cover art credit to this issue, based on a credited reproduction of the artwork in an article in Science Fiction Age, March 1993. Mhhutchins 22:10, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Same situation with the cover art credit to the Sep-Oct 1954 issue. Mhhutchins 22:26, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

S. F. D. Introduces a New Department

Hi. Should this be an essay? Jonschaper 03:46, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Analog 1997-01

Changed the title of Ready's essay from _Hubble’s View of the Universe_ to _Hubble’s New Views of the Universe_. Hauck 17:44, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Analog 1997-02

Changed title of Phalen's story from _Chasing the Idea Rat with My Best Friend_ to _Chasing the Idea Rat with My Best Friend, Jaime_. Hauck 17:50, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Analog 1997-07&08

Changed authorship of _Safari_ from Rick Shelly to Rick Shelley. Hauck 18:05, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Analog 1997-12

Changed the title of Hockensmith's story from _Arnold the Conquerer_ to _Arnold the Conqueror_. Hauck 18:18, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

War with the Robots

Added a scan to [this] edition. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:45, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Famous Fantastic Mysteries, May-June 1940

For your verified pub, can you check the name of author Frank Lillie Pollack for Finis ? I found Frank Lillie Pollock in the TOC and on title story's page. Thanks. ChanurBe 10:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Planet Stories, January 1954

A new editor, User:Frankhollander, has added the following note to your verified Planet Stories, January 1954: "The story "Solar Stiff" is mistakenly omitted from the table of contents." I approved the submission, but could you please double check your copy when you get a chance? I have this ish somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment :( Ahasuerus 04:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Harper Collins vs. HarperCollins

Could you please check the publisher on your verified Foundation's Triumph (by David Brin) and Cryptonomicon (by Neal Stephenson)? Those two books have them entered as by "Harper Collins/ PerfectBound". There's a slight problem with the missing space before the slash but a possible mistake in the Publisher spelling. Usually, it seems, they spell it "HarperCollins" without the space, and I'm hoping you can check that. Finally, this order of the listing would imply that "Harper Collins" is an imprint of a company named "PerfectBound", which seems unlikely. Is PerfectBound an imprint of HarperCollins? Or is there some other relationship? Chavey 04:49, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Cover artist for six issues of Fantastic found

Beginning with this issue, I have identified Johnny Bruck as cover artist (thanks to perrypedia). Three are already vt'd, three more are to follow in the next days. Stonecreek 14:35, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, it took some more time than I expected, but now it's done. They comprise (in addition) of the issues from November 1967, March 1968, May 1968, August 1968 & December 1968.

And the same artist was responsible for If, No. 138, May 1969. I vt'd it also and added a short note. Stonecreek 18:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Startling Stories, July 1947

Recently I have been entering some Adventure House facsimile reprints into the data base, and I have come across a signiture that I thought was Harchoni, but you have him (her?) listed as Marchoni. Could this be the same person? Do you know who this is? I have only come across this signiture in Better's publications. Did he/she appear in any of their non-sf publications? MLB 10:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

"The Sex Virus", by Darrell Bain

This book, which you verified, had the publisher listed as "Double Dragon". There are, at present, publisher listings for "Double Dragon", "Double Dragon Press", "Double Dragon Publishing", and "Double Dragon eBooks". To overcome the inherent ambiguity of this, I am correcting publisher listings for "Double Dragon" to one of the other more detailed listings. This book appears to belong properly to "Double Dragon eBooks" (an imprint of "Double Dragon Publishing"), so I have changed the publisher to that. Chavey 06:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Introduction to Moon of Skulls

Do you have any objection if I remove the parenthetical disambiguation statement form the title "The Gothic Orient (Introduction to The Moon of Skulls)" in the collectionMoon of Skulls? I can't see any reason that we need to disambiguate. I can add a note on the title that it is an introduction. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Galaxy 1973-11

Just want to inform you that I've uploaded the second cover for your verified here. Hauck 11:57, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of A Mental Mischance in Bleiler's Science-Fiction: The Early Years

I've corrected the title of the reviewed story in Bleiler's Science-Fiction: The Early Years per this discussion. We had a typo as "A Mental Mishchance". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

The Astounding Science Fiction Anthology - Cover Artist Confirmed, Book Club note on DJ Confirmed

I received a copy of The Astounding Science Fiction Anthology today with dust jacket and have confirmed that the cover artist is listed on the rear flap as 'Leo Manso'. In light of this I've removed the note "Unfortunately it is without dust jacket so the artist cannot be confirmed." My copyright page also is as described without any notice of 'First Printing'. My dust jacket on the front flap states "Book Club Edition". I will add a note "Front flap indicates 'Book Club Edition'". - Thanks - Kevin 16:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Strangers on/in Paradise

Can you chime in on [this] discussion when you have a chance? Thanks. --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:06, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Douglas Herring in Aeon Seven

I am taking a look at a proposed pseudonym relationship between Doug Herring and Douglas Herring, and I'm a little suspicious due to the 15+ year gap between the respective bibliographies. The only outlier is The Doom That Came to Smallmouth in your verified Aeon Seven. Is that explicitly credited to "Douglas", or does the credit come from a signature by any chance? I'd also appreciate your opinion on whether those are the same person, while you're looking at this. Thanks, --MartyD 11:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

There is a link within the epub version of the magazine to this website.--swfritter 20:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Beautiful, thanks! Did you notice where he says "For the past 15 years .... Before that, comics, SF/fantasy,..."? Guess that explains the gap. --MartyD 15:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Willard Marsh 's "Ast[r]onomy Lesson"

Willard Marsh's "Astonomy Lesson", which appears in your verified The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, June 1955, has been changed to "Astronomy Lesson". Ahasuerus 21:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

And All for One

Can you check the title of the Jerome Bixby story in Other Worlds Science Stories, May 1950? I have a reprint of this story in this pub. The title on the contents page is And All for One, but on the titlepage it's —And All for One". Donald B. Day has the second title for the story, so the question is, should I change the title record or variant my version. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:03, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

No response so far. I changed the title record. Drop me a message if you don't agree. Thanks, --Willem H. 20:39, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

George O. Smith's "Spacemen Lost"

Just a note that George O. Smith's "Spacemen Lost" in your verified "Startling Stories, Fall 1954" has been changed from a novella to a "(Complete Novel)" serial and then turned into a VT of Lost in Space. Ahasuerus 07:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

F&SF May 1957 - Poem Title 'Atom-Splitters' vs 'Atom Splitters'

I was doing a verification on The Best from Fantasy and Science Fiction, Seventh Series and I came across Lyric for Atom Splitters which originally appeared in your verified pub F&SF May 1957. In my book in hand the title is listed as 'Lyric for Atom-Splitters' (With hyphen). I also happen to have a scan of the May 1957 F&SF issue, and on page 128, the poem appears there also as with the hyphen 'Lyric for Atom-Splitters'. I also found 2 other typos in the listing for this pub, so I beleive this is an across the board typo (Likely all instances have the hyphen). This is just an FYI note, that pending a check from the other verifiers of the other publications, I'll update the record to match the copy and scan I have in hand. - Thanks - Kevin 02:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I updated the pub as described. (Turns out that not all locations had a hyphen so I created a variant as well.) - Thanks Kevin 21:52, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, March 1983

I was about to link to a new scan I made of this issue, but then I noticed that my copy has a $2.00 price on the cover, whereas yours has a $1.75 price. The colophon of my issue lists a $1.75 price, like the cover of yours does... is this a common practice? How should I record this? Thanks, Albinoflea 03:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC) (I'm leaving the same note on Rkihara's page.)

The Challenge from Beyond

Please join in this discussion when you get a chance. Mhhutchins 05:41, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

The Closet

Could you verify the opening and closing lines of Kessel's The Closet from this issue of F&SF? I've just created a new entry for a title by the same Author and figure they should be merged, but just want to make sure. Thanks,Albinoflea 06:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Innteriorart credits in Science Fiction Stories #1 and #2

New editor User:Jroneill has submitted two updates providing artist credits on previously uncredited interiorart in your verified Science Fiction Stories #1 ("The Way of Decision" -> Orban) and Science Fiction Stories #2 ("The Turning Wheel" -> Kelly Freas) based on signatures on the artwork. It took me a long time to get a response to my initial inquiry, and my availability has been somewhat thin of late, so I'm going to accept them and add a note to each that the credits are from signatures. Let me know if you disagree with either, and I'll revert. Thanks. --MartyD 10:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Jonathan Swift Sommers

Somehow Philip José Farmer's pseudonym had an extra "m" in the database. I corrected this, indirectly changing your verified The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, March 1975 and The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, November 1976. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

The Book of Iod

Could I get you to check a couple of points on your copy of Kuttner's The Book of Iod? My copy is marked "First Eidtion" has the full number line and May 1995 date as yours does (I'm assuming the number line on yours). It also matches ISBN. However, my copy has a bar code on the last page, which is something I've assumed is indicative of print on demand books. I've no real evidence that POD is what these bar codes mean, but I've observed them on small press books that have come out in very small batches. The other possible difference with your copy is that mine has a symbol of an open book with a lightning bolt either striking it, or coming out of it. This logo appears to the left of the bar code on the back cover. Lastly, my copy has no price. I've been picking up used copies of a number of these Chaosium books lately and I only have one other that has the bar code on the same page and lightning struck book logo. That one does have a price. Chaosium doesn't currently offer any POD editions on their site and I don't know if they ever did. Please let me know if yous matches mine, or is indeed different. Regardless of what you find, I'd like to add a note about the number line and an INTERIORART item for the Geier decorations. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 20:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

My copy is as described by you with a full 1 thru 10 number line. The book has the look and feel of a POD edition and I assumed it was such. But it may be that they used a POD printing house to create a finite number of copies at a bulk discount.--swfritter 21:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. I'll assume that our edition is a first unless we ever see evidence to the cotrary.--Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:42, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Correction to Author Name

Corrected "Parice" Contamine de Latour to "Patrice" in your verified pub Science-Fiction: The Early Years.--Rkihara 17:43, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

If, May 1967

Hello, in addition to entering some interior art, I've changed the title of Hollis' story from _The Long Slow Orbits_ to _The Long, Slow Orbits_ as per title page. Hauck 11:10, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

The disposal of man

Hello, can you have a look at your copy of this magazine to see if Broderick's story is titled _The Disposal Man_ (as entered) or _The Disposal of Man_ (as in this pub) ? Thanks. Hauck 09:57, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

"The Disposal Man" on both table of contents and title page.--swfritter 23:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, perhaps a vt is in order (if the bc is to be believed, the Horwitz pb seems to the fist publication of the text) ? Hauck 14:45, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
1965 should definitely be the non-variant.--swfritter 23:05, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Done. Hauck 14:53, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Other Worlds May 1951

I have a submission by a new editor who wants to change the record of the review on page 37 of this issue from Heinlein's Sixth Column to Leiber's Gather Darkness!. Can you confirm the current listing is correct? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 16:09, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

"Sixth Column" is mentioned in passing (that it was previously reviewed in an earlier issue - 9/50) as an introduction to an extened review of "Gather, Darkness!". MarkStackpole 19:33, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Looked at my copy. The change is valid.--swfritter 23:34, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll accept the submission, but will have to re-direct the link to the correct title record. Mhhutchins 01:15, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Wells' contribution to Apeman, Spaceman

Your opinion would be welcome here. Stonecreek 15:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Billennium / Billenium

I would like to change the title of Ballard's story in this verified pub from "Billennium" to "Billenium" as it is on the titlepage. Hope you can agree. Thanks, --Willem H. 16:30, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Seems appropriate.--swfritter 22:11, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Done. --Willem H. 15:53, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Amazing Science Fiction Stories, March 1959

Your verified Amazing Science Fiction Stories, March 1959 is shown as containing two letters by Asimov. The first one (p7) is titled "Letter (Amazing Stories, March 1959)", but dated 1939 which seems odd. Is this a reprint of an earlier letter or a typo on the date? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

This letter was probably first published as a "Meet the Authors" entry in this pub. Since there is a recent verification you can check with the verifier. The first words of the letter are "By the time these words see print". Bit of a dicey problem to merge/variant since the original entries were entered as though the authors were co-writers.--swfritter 22:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)