User talk:Ofearna/Archive18

Mirror, Mirror, on the Lam

You have verified two publications (one, two) containing Mirror, Mirror, on the Lam (two commas). You have also verified this publication containing Mirror, Mirror on the Lam (one comma). Would you please double check these and either variant (if same story & titles are different), merge (if same story & one of the records is wrong), or add notes explaining differences (if different stories)? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Third Time Lucky has ONE comma on the page with "previously published" page, but ToC and story itself has the two commas, more standard, so I merged them...

Thanks Susan O'Fearna 21:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Second Chance at Eden cover merge

HI! You want to merge this cover[1] and this cover[2] which are clearly different. Am I missing something? Thanks!Kraang 02:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually, they're the SAME image, but you only see half of the wrap... sometimes it's left-to-right full-wrap, sometimes it's mirror-image right-to-left full wrap and sometimes they just show half the image without wrapping the image... but

Susan O'Fearna 06:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

OK! I see the new uploaded image . Will approve. Thanks!Kraang 01:56, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

cool, thanks! 02:26, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry ...

... but I rejected one of your submissions that would have varianted a piece of art by Jim Burns to an essay (see your rejected submissions). Christian Stonecreek 06:47, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I must have used the wrong code... I'll review them in the morning. Thanks Susan O'Fearna 06:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Joe Jusko's Edgar Rice Buroughs Collection

Hello, just in case note that you've entered this pub with Ken Kelly as artist. I also changed a "Caldwel" to "Caldwell". Can you also confirm the title "Boris 4: Magcificent Myths "? Cover of "The Artwork of Boris & Julie: Strokes of Genius" is credited to Boris alone, correct? Note that there will be much varianting to do. Hauck 05:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

now that they're approved I can fix my little errors like that and add "covers" as I go. thanks! Susan O'Fearna 05:58, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

A multitude of Paul Chadwick(s)

Hello Susan, I took the liberty to attribute this book to this Paul Chadwick instead of this one or even that one. Was I right? Thanks. Hauck 12:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, though Paul Chadwick (1957-) is an artist... 17:22, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. In fact I'm not sure that there are rules that cover such disambiguations, and "Paul Chadwick (1957-) (Artist)" seems a bit complex (add to this the fact that for a french like me an "artist" is any creative person). Hauck 17:26, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Thing is, I don't know if Paul Chadwick (Artist) is the SAME artist as Paul Chadwick (1957-) Susan O'Fearna 17:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

You're probably in better position than me to judge this (you're likely more familiar with his work). If so, we'll have to change the four record by the (artist) to the (1957-). Hauck 17:38, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Bit I didn't recognize the art I left at Paul Chadwick (artist)... Susan O'Fearna 18:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Trading cards sets editor

Hello, I've put some of your submissions on hald as the EDITOR given is the publisher itself. In such cases, it's better to use "uncredited" as you did here. If you agree, I can do the changes. Hauck 10:08, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree on all but the Boris 4 one... Susan O'Fearna 16:14, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

For this one, it's another reason, see here. Hauck 17:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Susan O'Fearna 17:06, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Page count field

What does the "[M4]" and "[M5]" in the page count fields of this publication and this one represent? That field should only be used to indicate the number of pages in the publication and can only be a whole number. Alternately, it can be used to indicate the number of pieces in a portfolio. If the pages or pieces aren't numbered, only then should the number be bracketed. Mhhutchins 23:38, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

It's the way I was corrected when I added the Bob Eggleton -- they are the "chase" cards, part of the "pagination" (numbering) as extras... the numbers are (usually) 1-90 or 1-72 then the extras

Same question concerning the page count field of this publication. You should give the total number of cards in the set in brackets. If there are 100 unnumbered cards, the page count field should be entered as "[100]". You can use the Note field to describe the varieties of cards in the set. You've also misspelled "Magnificent". You'll have to correct the title fields of the publication record, the author record, and the coverart record. And the work should be credited to Boris Vallejo, not just "Boris". That's the title of the work, not the artist credit. Mhhutchins 23:42, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I knew about the misspelling of Magnificent, I just haven't had a chance to correct it yet... see the article just above this one... Susan O'Fearna

Found another one. Please go back to all of the publication records you've entered using this format and make a correction to the page count field. Mhhutchins 23:44, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

And another one. Also, it appears that you've credited the publication based on the title. Looking at image you've uploaded, the full names of the artists are given, so they should be given fully in the publication record. Mhhutchins 23:47, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll check 'em all out Susan O'Fearna 07:03, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

here's the link to the Bob Eggleton set but I can change those to regular integers... Susan O'Fearna 07:14, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Based on how the page count is given in that record, can it be assumed that there are a total of 96 cards: 90 of them are numbered 1 through 90, and the other 6 cards are unnumbered? Mhhutchins 15:46, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I fixed several last night... working on the rest Susan O'Fearna 18:05, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Please answer what I asked about the Bob Eggleton set. Only then will I be able to determine if you're fixing them correctly. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:20, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The chase cards are numbered M1-M6, so the "regular" or base set is numbered 1-90 and the Metallic cards are numbered M1-M6, which is why'd I'd had 90+[M6] Susan O'Fearna 18:51, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The count should be given as "90+6" since there are two ranges of numbers, each range being separately numbered. Brackets around a number indicate the pages/pieces are not numbered. Also, the content numbering in the publication record should not be given in brackets if the cards are numbered. The card numbered "M1" should be entered without brackets. You can use the pipe system to order the display. For example, the first metal card can be entered as "M1|90" which would display it after card #89. Mhhutchins 19:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Awesome... I've got several of these to fix then... Susan O'Fearna 19:21, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

"Promo" card

If the promo card in this publication isn't titled "Promo", it should probably be titled as "From Fantasy to Reality (promo card)". A work should be given the title as stated in the publication. If it isn't explicitly titled, it should be given the title of the publication in which it appears. A parenthetical description can be added but only when absolutely necessary. Otherwise use the Note field of the title record to provide a description of the work. Mhhutchins 21:49, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The same rule applies for the three contents in this publication: Promo, Autograph, and Medallion. Mhhutchins 21:51, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Well, crap, now I have a few of THOSE to fix ... Susan O'Fearna 22:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

As I think about it, I formatted this like I would a Foreword... Foreword (work title)... which way's right? Susan O'Fearna 22:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

If a foreword is titled "Foreword" you enter it as "Foreword (Title of Work)". If it's not titled, you enter it as "Title of Work (foreword)". In the first case, you're disambiguating generically titled works to prevent accidental merges for otherwise identically titled works. In the second case, you're creating a title for an untitled content and adding a parenthetical description. Mhhutchins 23:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Then they *would* be the way I have them as these cards are labelled Promo or Autograph, Medallion... Susan O'Fearna 23:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

If you had responded to my original post that it was titled "Promo", it would have saved a lot of my time. Mhhutchins 00:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Femme(s) Fatales

Hello, is this pub titled _Femme Fatales_ (as per publication) or _Femmes Fatales_ (as per title). Thanks for checking. Hauck 17:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I was fixing the typo... it's Femme Fatales Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Comic Images Artists Choice

In the title record you list the non-spec-fic artists whose works are excluded, yet you've updated the publication record recently to add contents by them. Keep in mind that this is not a comic artists database (it's not even a spec-fic artists database when you come down to it). In any case the title record should match the publication record. Mhhutchins 18:20, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

several of the Spectrum books have ALL the contents listed even the ad-art and comics and stuff... I try to split the difference (as you can see in Shaman. All these are spec-fic, most are recycled cover art, NONE are interior comic pages Susan O'Fearna 18:36, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

The Spectrum volumes do not contain any non-spec-fic art. They're even subtitled "The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art". So there was never any question that all of the contents were eligible for the database. Nothing in the description of the Comic Images collection indicates that it's spec-fic art. If you believed all of the work in the collection was spec-fic why did you choose to originally omit some artists' work? And you've still made no effort to reconcile the title record with the publication record. Mhhutchins 21:15, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but when I added I didn't add comic-book art or photos of sculptures or advertising images... Originally I was just trying to get these sets *in* the database so I can reconcile them all. Susan O'Fearna 21:21, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Either you don't understand what I'm trying to say or you're deliberately obfuscating to avoid responding to my original point. So I'll try again. The title record notes that several artists' work aren't included, while the publication record actually includes them in the contents. Either correct the note in the title record, or remove the contents from the publication record based on the ISFDB standard that the art be spec-fic related. If, as you say, all of the art is spec-fic, then correct the note in the title record. In other words, reconcile what you said in the title record with what you did in the publication record. This has already taken up more of my ISFDB time than it's worth so I'm going to walk away and leave it to you to make the correction. Mhhutchins 21:36, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

You should also have the page count field follow the standard I've outlined in a previous comment. As it is given here, "72+[21]" means that 72 of the cards are numbered and 21 of them are not. Mhhutchins 18:22, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

fixed the pagination numbering Susan O'Fearna 18:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

The Art of Amy Brown

HI! Can you check the ISBN it has a bad sum check[3]. Thanks!Kraang 02:35, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

The Art of Amy Brown (1) has the 10-digit I'm actually seeing *on the book* in pending Susan O'Fearna 16:31, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

OK it's now fixed. Thanks!Kraang 00:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Scanning the back of book

We only scan the back of a book when there is wraparound cover art. So I cropped this image to show only the front cover. (There was only text on the back cover.) Mhhutchins 19:51, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

ok, cool... I was using the scan from the Andre Norton project. Susan O'Fearna 08:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

The War Hound and the World's Pain

Hello, I've approved your submission to create this pub but I think that there's a problem with the pubdate (1984-07-00) and the notes (Reprinted May 1985). Can you confirm? Hervé Hauck 12:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Changed notes to be more specific to this edition... Susan O'Fearna 16:29, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Sourcing data

Hello, I've put some of your submissions that credit Jim Warren as cover artist on hold. I saw that you notified the PVS and thank you for that but it seems that you didn't give the source of your data (after approving lots of your submissions, I suppose that it comes from diverse Warren's portfolios). Please modify the notes accordingly, a simple mention along the lines of "Artist credit from <name of the book> or <ISFDB link> is enough. Thanks. Hauck 08:32, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

If you can approve them, I'll add notes and link to the images... Susan O'Fearna 16:53, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Hauck 17:02, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

will wait for that to happen Susan O'Fearna 17:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Posting notifications on the wrong page

Please read the gigantic notice at the top of this page and explain why you posted a message about adding cover art credit to a primary verified and then making a submission to do so. In the future, do not make any submissions to change any of my verified records before discussing it with me on my talk page, not the notification page. In fact, all submissions to add missing cover art credit to a primary verified record should be discussed with the verifying editor before making a submission. If you'd done that in the case of this record, I would have pulled out my copy of the issue and confirmed that the artist is credited. Mhhutchins 16:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

sorry, I thought this (adding cover art credit) was covered in the conditions you wanted posted there... 17:01, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

It clearly states "adding images or notes". Nothing about changing a data field. Mhhutchins 23:28, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Enlarging image files

Your recent set of image file uploads appear to have been enlarged to reach the ISFDB limit. This file and this one, for example, are very fuzzy and hardly worth the effort you're taking to upload and link them to the publication records. Please try to keep files which you snag from other sources at their original size, and only resize if they exceed the ISFDB standards. If they're too small, then don't bother uploading them. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:38, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

The website I'm snagging them from (librarything) has already enlarged them to 640... I've been trying to make sure to re-size them back to 600... but I'm done, never found the book I was actually LOOKING for (drat) so I'm going back to my own books for now... Thanks Susan O'Fearna 04:54, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Ascending

Hello, I've approved your submission to delete artist credit but note that ALL PVs (including transient) should be notified (there's no precedence between PVs). Hauck 17:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I had the paperback version of this and remember LOOKING for artist credit for that cover, but the other cover, that was available thru SFBC with the Royo cover is the one I have now. Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:31, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Dead Moon Epilogue

Unless this work contains more than 40,000 words of fiction, it should be typed as a CHAPBOOK with a SHORTFICTION content record. If it has no fiction and only artwork, it should be typed as NONFICTION. Mhhutchins 15:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

You (I think it was you) entered the first one (Dead Moon) as a novel and this one has more text/story than that one, so... Susan O'Fearna 17:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I based classification of the first record solely on the number of pages. Without being able to do an actual page count, we are forced to use 100 pages as the threshold for a novel. (A typical printed page has about 400 words.) That estimation has to be modified based on the size of the font, the margins, and the text/illustration ratio. Since you have both books, could you please do an estimate of the word count? Count the number of pages with text and multiply that by the average number of words on a typical page of text. Then we can determine if one or both should be changed to CHAPBOOK. Mhhutchins 18:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

In that case, I'd call both of them chapbooks and the contents a novella. It's bout the same length as GRRMartin's Ice Dragon Susan O'Fearna 19:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll make the necessary changes to the records. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna 19:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Importing contents

Your submission to import contents into this record could not be accepted because some of the contents no longer existed in the database. This was caused because in submissions just subsequent to this one you had merged titles records which were contents of the publication record from which you wanted to export the contents. In the future you must wait until all of the submissions that merge, variant, and/or edit content records have been moderated before you make a submission that involves those same content records. You can now make another submission to import the contents to another publication record. Mhhutchins 21:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

ok, I have one more edit to add THEN I'll copy the contents :D Susan O'Fearna 22:26, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

How to notify primary verifying editors

If you want to make a change to a primary verified record, such as adding cover art credit when there is none in the publication, you must first post a message on the verifying editor's talk page, not their notification page. There is a difference and those editors who have a notification page have a message on their talk pages explaining how they want to be notified. You should not make a submission that changes a primary verified publication unless you have first notified the primary verifying editor of the change so that they can make the change themselves. If the editor is inactive, post a message on the ISFDB:Moderator noticeboard. I have rejected your submission to add cover art credit to this primary verified record. Now go to that editor's talk page, (not his "notification" page), and tell him that you have located a source for the cover art. It is up to him to decide whether to update the record himself or ask you to do it. Mhhutchins 22:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

ok Susan O'Fearna 22:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Translators

We don't credit translators in the author field. You have the option to credit them in the note field. Please correct the author field of this publication record and its title record. (Both of these changes can be done in one submission.) Also variant the title record to the original English title. Mhhutchins 21:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I was waiting for it to exist so I can variant it... will go now! Susan O'Fearna 21:19, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

The Cats of Tanglewood Forest

Can you confirm the publisher given on the title page of this publication? According to most sources, it's just "Little, Brown". Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I had originally put Little, Brown and Company (which is what it has on the title page) but I was corrected... Susan O'Fearna 06:01, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

The ISFDB designation for "Little, Brown and Company" is Little, Brown. When I asked it was given as Little, Brown Books for Young Readers. Thanks for making the correction. Mhhutchins 16:29, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I fixed a few of them so they'd be correct now :D Susan O'Fearna 18:29, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Image file exceeding ISFDB limits, again

You should have received a warning that this file exceeds the ISFDB limits. There's a reason why we limit images, and the warning is there for a purpose. You shouldn't choose to ignore them when the warnings appear. I will resize the image. If this happens again, I'll delete it and ask you to resize it and reload it. Mhhutchins 02:33, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

No warning, but I'll resize it anyway... Susan O'Fearna 02:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Read my message again. I said I'll resize it. But here are two that you will need to resize and reup: here and here,

You should know the limits by heart by now. There is the message at the top of every upload entry page that states: Cover images should be no more than 600 pixels along the largest dimension. It's a pretty clear warning. No one needs bells and whistles. Mhhutchins 02:52, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Horsecleanse?

Please confirm if this title is correct. Thanks. 02:41, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

It does, indeed, say Horse * cleanse * Susan O'Fearna

Droga

You failed to give the source for your data in the Note field of this record. Please update it. Mhhutchins 06:00, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

random snagged cover image? I'll put the website I got the other info from... Susan O'Fearna 06:01, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I was talking about the publication record to which I linked, not the cover image. Thanks for providing the source. Mhhutchins 06:43, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I changed the ISBN-13 (which wasn't created until 2005) to an ISBN-10 for this 1993 publication. Keep this in mind when using data from a secondary source. I also added the publisher and the correct binding based on the OCLC record. That is the first place you should look for publication data. Mhhutchins 06:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I had a cover snag... had to hunt down enough info to add it to this DB Susan O'Fearna 06:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

As I said, OCLC should be the first place you look. All of the data you got from the other source was essentially wrong: no publisher, the wrong ISBN, the wrong page count, and the wrong pub format. Mhhutchins 06:58, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

OKIEDOKIE Susan O'Fearna 16:49, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Conan: Hodina Draka

Please variant this title to the English original. Any time you're adding a translated title to the database, you must variant it to the original, unless the work only appears in the translated language. You may have to do some research to find out what the original title is. Mhhutchins 06:28, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I was waiting for you to approve the creation of the title/pub... I can't variant it until then. Thanks Susan O'Fearna 06:43, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

It was just a reminder. It sat unvarianted for almost 24 hours after it was approved, so you had plenty of time to do it. You won't believe how many editors forget to do this. Mhhutchins 15:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

ISBN-13

Hello, you entered the following Royo's portfolios with ISBN-13 : 9788484317265, 9781882931514, 9781882931811, 9781882931729, 9781932414141, 9781932413144. Please correct them to ISBN-10. Thanks. Hauck 11:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I'll pull them back out tonight... Susan O'Fearna 16:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

sorry, only that first one was a portfolio; threw me off track. I think they're all fixed now Susan O'Fearna 17:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Omnibus

Can you confirm that this publication is correctly typed as OMNIBUS? If so, it must contain at least one previously published book, and the title(s) must be entered as contents in the omnibus. Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:53, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Yup, omnibus Susan O'Fearna 16:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Why are there three contents with the identical title? Are they the same work? If not, you'll have to disambiguate them. Mhhutchins 17:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

The contents are Prohibited book 1, book 2 and book 3 -- not identical Susan O'Fearna 17:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Look again. You gave them all the same title. Mhhutchins 17:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Fixed Susan O'Fearna 17:41, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Series trouble

Please look at this series and this one. You can not have the same numbering for different works in the same series. There's also a variety of types (NONFICTION, which is a book type and ESSAY, which is a content type), and a variety of languages. Please determine the correct numbering and whether the books or the contents should be in the series (or both but not have the same numbers). Also see whether you have to variant some of the titles based on their language. Mhhutchins 18:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I think series-ing the books is more than sufficient, don't you? Susan O'Fearna 18:31, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I can't make that decision since I don't have the publications. That's your call as the primary verifier. In any case, you can't have duplicates of the numbering within the series. Choose either the book or the content to get the numbering, and it doesn't matter if you keep both in the series. Mhhutchins 18:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I just did Susan O'Fearna 18:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Not all of them have been fixed. Please correct the numbering in this series. Mhhutchins 03:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

That's it... Susan O'Fearna 03:02, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

III Millennium: Memory

Please confirm the ISBN/catalog number of this publication. If it's an ISBN, there are too many digits. If it's a catalog number, place the # character before it to distinguish it from an ISBN. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

fixed.. too many "1"s Susan O'Fearna 19:10, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Not fixed yet. It's an invalid number. If that's the ISBN as stated in the book, add the # so that the Bad Checksum warning disappears from the record. Mhhutchins 19:27, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Now? Susan O'Fearna 21:13, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

That's a valid number. Is that the one in the publication? Mhhutchins 22:28, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

yup, I just was fat-finger'ing the numbers... Susan O'Fearna 22:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

How to use the Note to Moderator field

Please read this help page about the purpose of this field. The best place to ask questions is the Help Desk. Mhhutchins 05:56, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

ok Susan O'Fearna 23:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

The Fabulous Women of Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell

Can you confirm that the ISBN-13 is stated in this publication? (It should not be confused with the EAN which appears above the barcode but without stating its the "ISBN-13".) The copyright page is the best place to look. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:33, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I changed it to 13-ISBN b/c that's what's ON the book (both of them are). Susan O'Fearna 22:56, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I ask because most US publishers didn't start using the ISBN-13 until 2007. Please confirm that the word "ISBN-13" is used. As I said above, it may be the EAN unless explicitly stated as "ISBN-13" in the publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

On the back, in the white box with the UPS it says ISBN-13 with that code, then another line says ISBN-10 ... may be th "reproduce by Anorax, UK" is part of the reason?? Susan O'Fearna 07:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Is that the barcode on the dust jacket? Is there no ISBN stated on the copyright page? Mhhutchins 14:10, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

My copy doesn't have a dust jacket... the barcode is on the back of the book and the ISBNs are both re-printed on the copyright page. Susan O'Fearna 16:54, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 17:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

npSusan O'Fearna 17:32, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

The Lunatic Cafe - Cover

Your submission to merge a cover art record from the 1996 pub, but to leave the note that says "DO NOT MERGE this record with the one for the 1996 edition. The covers are different." perplexed me. Should we also go ahead and delete the note, since you are refuting it. Thanks Kevin 23:16, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't know where that note came from unless they were talking about not merging the (ONLY) Lee MacLeod cover with the Craig White cover but it's already merged with another one... Susan O'Fearna 23:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

OK. It looks like Michael cleaned up a few other records for us, that makes the merge you've proposed easier to approve. I'm going to put it through, and then pull that note from the coverart record. Thanks, Kevin 01:36, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna 16:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Das Buch der Stille

Hello, Susan! I approved your submission to generate this title, but changed the year to 1988 according to the Worldcat entry. Do you plan to add the accompanying publication? Christian Stonecreek 08:36, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Yup, just needed it to be approved Susan O'Fearna 16:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

"Striptease"

In this publication you added another content record which is identical to one that's already in the record. Is it a second different piece with the same title? Mhhutchins 18:01, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

d'OH! I'll remove and merge it Susan O'Fearna 18:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Another file exceeding ISFDB limits

This file will be deleted in 24 hours. Mhhutchins 00:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

god, how long has that been there? Resized. Susan O'Fearna 07:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Page count field redux

As discussed previously, the page count field should be used to enter the number of pages in a publication. It is not used to record pagination. Please enter the total number of pages, in this case, cards in this publication. Mhhutchins 07:18, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I think it's fixed. Susan O'Fearna 07:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I need to fix a couple but they're pending.... Susan O'Fearna 07:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Witch and Her Familiar variant problem

Hi. You have a submission that appears to have intended to make a title "Witch and Her Familiar" a variant of Cover: Le Lendemain de la Machine, but that to-be-varianted title no longer exists. It was probably deleted by the approvals of the merges you submitted prior to that. I've left the submission on hold for reference. Would you cancel and resubmit with the existing title, if appropriate? Thanks, --MartyD 01:59, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Re-did it... Susan O'Fearna 02:57, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

"Boris" and "Julie"

Regardless of the title (which is not a responsibility credit), who are credited as the "authors" of this publication? It's not likely that the contents would be credited differently than the publication itself. Mhhutchins 18:56, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Same question about this publication, this one, and probably more in the db.

Another question, why are you adding the contents piecemeal? Wouldn't it be better to finish one publication before starting to work on another, instead of adding two or three content records at a time? It sure would save time moderating the submissions. Mhhutchins 19:01, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

The *sets* are credited Boris & Julie but each card has either Boris Vallejo or Julie Bell, so that makes that easier Susan O'Fearna 19:19, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

How is the "set" actually credited? As I said above, the title of the set should not be used as the credit. If it doesn't actually say by "Boris" and "Julie" then use the copyright data. In any event, the credits for the content must match the credit of the set. Either all should be credited to "Boris" and "Julie" or none should be. Mhhutchins 03:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Then how do I go change them to just Boris Vallejo/Julie Bell after they've already been varianted? Susan O'Fearna 04:44, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Just go ahead and correct the author credits of the publication records and I'll remove the variant. Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:34, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm adding the contents around work... so when my boss calls or someone comes in, I just hit "submit"and move on to another of the sets when they leave... sorry Susan O'Fearna 19:19, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Regardless, please try to work on one set at a time. Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:50, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

OK Susan O'Fearna 04:44, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

The Liar's Key

Please correct the currency (and possibly the price) of this record. Mhhutchins 19:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

ha.. $ is right next to #... fixed it (price is direct from the SFBC flyer, tho) Susan O'Fearna 19:20, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Please check the price again... Are you certain it's $18.66, a very odd price? Mhhutchins

• snort* .99 ... Susan O'Fearna 19:53, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

SFBC catalog number

The catalog number given in the SFBC brochures includes a final check digit or two, so it should not be used as the SFBC identification number which is printed on the back of the book's dust jacket. This practice may have changed recently, but until that can be confirmed by comparing the catalog number with the stated identification number, please do not change this field for SFBC editions. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

cool, in that case I'll go cancel those Susan O'Fearna 19:21, 18 August 2015 (UTC) (wondered what the hey)

Varianting to a later publication

The last set of submissions have varianted titles in which a later publication has been made the parent. For example, you made this 1989 title into a variant of this 1993 title. In most cases, the parent should be the first publication of the work. Mhhutchins 05:32, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I've changed the date on Andromeda to 2007 with its appearance in this book from the 1989 calendar appearance (sorry). Susan O'Fearna 05:34, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Multiple submissions editing the same record

Re this record: You made submissions to change the title field, but didn't wait until those submissions were accepted before editing the record again to add its contents. So when I accepted the last submission, the titles reverted to the original, because your submission to change it had not been accepted at the time you'd submitted it. As has been mentioned before, do not make multiple submissions to edit a publication record. You must wait until the first submission has been accepted before making a submission to edit it again. Mhhutchins 18:43, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Weird, because before I clicked submit, I made sure it wasn't in my "pending" list... Susan O'Fearna 18:45, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

But when you clicked on the "Edit This Pub" link, the system loaded the current record into your computer's cache to be edited. The first submission to edit it had not been moderated, so the version of the record you edited didn't have the new title yet. You have to wait for the first submission to be accepted before you click the "Edit" link, otherwise you're editing the then current record, not the updated one. Mhhutchins 18:59, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

got it Susan O'Fearna 19:04, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

The Julie Bell Fantasy Art Trading Card Collection

Re this publication: About two dozen titles in this record had to be removed, because they had been entered twice and then were merged. That means I couldn't just remove the duplicate titles without removing both sets. You'll have to add those titles again. Sorry, but I couldn't figure out exactly how this happened. It's possible that a submission adding new contents was accepted, and then a hiccup in the system duplicated the contents. Mhhutchins 18:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

All 10 tek-chrome cards and both promos are repeats... when I merged two items in one publication maybe that's what happened? Susan O'Fearna 19:30, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

That's what caused the problem. I would suggest not creating a second content record for any cards that are repeats. Just note it in the record's Note field. Mhhutchins 20:51, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

I'll just variant them Susan O'Fearna 21:29, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

They aren't variants. They are the same work. You can't variant them if they have the same credit and the same title. Mhhutchins 01:18, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

thanks Susan O'Fearna 07:00, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I see you disregarded my advice not to create content records for the duplicate art. Don't be surprised if someone (even you) merges these records again, causing the same problem which brought up the discussion to begin with. Mhhutchins 17:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

"Dead But Not Forgotten"

I see that you verified this publication a few weeks ago. I wonder if you may be in a position to update the Note field and add Content items? TIA! Ahasuerus 19:03, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

done Susan O'Fearna 13:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I have corrected the Roman numerals and imported the Content items into the other pubs. Ahasuerus 18:00, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna 01:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Beyond the Fields We Know

Re this record: I changed the title of the frontispiece from "frontspiece (Beyond the Fields We Know)" to "Beyond the Fields We Know (frontispiece)" per ISFDB standards. I also varianted the poem "Far from the Rush" by "Wendelessen" to Charles de Lint, and changed the type from "tp" (trade paperback) to "ph" (pamphlet) based on your description. I changed the credit of the interview from "unknown" to "uncredited". One last thing, you should update the Note field concerning the data source. Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:52, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

was waiting for the approval (and working on the Boris book) to variant that poem; thanks. not sure what you mean by update note field concerning data source, tho... Susan O'Fearna 03:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

The submission to update the record was accepted 14 hours ago, and there's no need to "wait for approval" to variant a poem credited to a pseudonym.

Your note says the data is from Abebooks dealers, which can not be true if you did a primary verification of the publication more than a month ago (BTW, verification should have waited until the contents have been completely entered.)

I also corrected the author of Hobberdy Dick from Katherine Briggs to Katharine M. Briggs. Mhhutchins 04:05, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I like to wait for any changes I've made to be done before making any more b/c they keep getting "lost"... Susan O'Fearna 04:07, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

This makes no sense. Mhhutchins 04:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I've removed the old notes about the abebooks verification Susan O'Fearna 04:07, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

The submission to disambiguate "A Kingly Thing" by Ken Raney was rejected. You only need to disambiguate if the artist credit and title are identical. There's only one record with that title and artist in the database. Mhhutchins 04:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I thought since it was a fourth illo and separated by two pages... Susan O'Fearna 04:19, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Creating pseudonym

You'll need to make Lancelot Eatsalot into a pseudonym. The editor should do this at the same time that a variant of a title by the author is created (in a separate submission), if the pseudonym relation hasn't already been established. It's not done automatically. Mhhutchins 15:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Hope I did that right... Susan O'Fearna 16:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

B&J Ultimate Collection

I reverted the ISBN you changed in this record back to the original ISBN-10. The number you gave was an invalid ISBN, and there would not be an ISBN-13 on a 2005 edition. You should have also notified the primary verifier before making a change in any field other than the Note field of a primary verified record. If your copy has an ISBN-13, it's very likely a reprint. Or it could be an EAN, and not an ISBN. Mhhutchins 19:05, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

It's like Fabulous Women, it has the UK printing with both the 13- and the 10- 19:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

If it states the words "ISBN-13" then it's a reprint. No publisher used an ISBN-13 in 2005. Mhhutchins 19:41, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

This was published in Nov 2005 -- it has the 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 and far as I know the book was never reprinted...

Then it can not have an ISBN-13. Please check again. It may be the 13-digit EAN which appears above barcodes. Mhhutchins 00:05, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

-- see? Susan O'Fearna 01:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

What is the ISBN given on the book's copyright page? Mhhutchins 02:32, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

both ... Susan O'Fearna 02:43, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

2005-10-00

You've just introduced a new artist to the database. (You entered the date in the artist field of this publication.) Mhhutchins 20:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

I saw that but when I went back to fix the author I'd have to re-type all that. Can you approve and I'll go and change/fix it? Thanx Susan O'Fearna 20:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

It was approved before I made the post here. Otherwise you wouldn't have been able to see that new "artist" record. Mhhutchins 21:51, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

fixed it (d'oh!) thanks Susan O'Fearna 22:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Drawings & Paintings by Craft

If the pieces on page 48 and 49 of this publication are identically titled, you should disambiguate the second one by adding "[2]" to the title. Mhhutchins 06:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

OK. done Susan O'Fearna 08:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

"Latina chick"

I changed the wording of the note in this record to "Latina woman". Some users might be offended by the other term. Mhhutchins 20:22, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

COOL Susan O'Fearna 20:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Cover art

Hello, I've put some of your submissions on hold that wished to add the artist (McGrath) or delete it (Maitz). It will be interesting to give your reasons in the relevant field or better in the note field (in this case along the lines of "Artist credited in other prinings") and so helping us moderators to decide what to do with them. Thanks. Hauck 13:21, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

I can't edit my changes... the McGrath cover matches the other verified (by me) cover from McGrath and the Maitz - that black-and-white (red) changed b/c Amazon changed their cover scan from the Maitz cover which you can see on other edition(s) of that book. I've been seeing a lot of this with amazon scans, especially the zzzzz scans, where the image just changed. Susan O'Fearna 16:00, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

I've supposed so but it will be nice to state this in your submissions (or in the notes in the McGrath case), it will save time for the moderators who handle them.Hauck 16:13, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

3 Jim Burns covers and their later variants

Hi Susan, I've been adding some Jim Burns covers as INTERIORART records to a pub, and came across three that have their earliest cover records varianted to their later appearances as INTERIORART, when it ought to be the other way round – the earliest appearance is the master and later records are the variants. All three seem to stem from their appearance in your verified pub Transluminal – Mother of Plenty, The Neutronium Alchemist and The Reality Dysfunction and are dated 1999, when the originals appeared some years earlier. Would you like to do the re-varianting or shall I? Thanks for checking. PeteYoung 03:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

you can do it... I'm so far behind at work... Susan O'Fearna 17:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Done now. I've also updated a few INTERIORART titles that were not capitalised. Thanks. PeteYoung 04:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Sherry Gottlieb

Hi Susan, a small detail: could you have a look at the credit for "Sherry Gershone Gottlieb" in your verified 'Rat Tales'... we have her middle name as "Gershon" on her bio page. Thanks for checking. PeteYoung 11:51, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

yup, no E fixed Susan O'Fearna 19:51, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Rat Tales

If "Rat Souffle a la Hull (recipe)" isn't in your copy of the book, you should remove it from the publication record. Mhhutchins|talk 07:40, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

edited notes... Susan O'Fearna 20:04, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Witches'-Broom, Apple Soon

You have verified this pub containing Witches'-Broom, Apple Soon as a novelette and you have verified this pub containing Witches'-broom, Apple Soon as a novella. If these are the same story, they should be merged under the same length. If one is an edited version of the other, than notes should be added to each title record stating such. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:28, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Merged them Susan O'Fearna 20:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

"Curio(u)sities" by Jane Lindskold

Could you please double check that the title of your verified Jane Lindskold collection Curiousities is spelled with 2 "u"s on the title page? TAI! Ahasuerus 01:38, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

fixed the title Susan O'Fearna 20:29, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Also, check the ISBN. All current ISBN-13s start with "978". Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:26, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

there is no ISBN *in* the ebook, but per BN & amazon, I've fixed it... now to add the cover Susan O'Fearna 20:29, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Prohibited Book

I've cloned Prohibited Book 1 that you verified; I have the 4th edition. I've entered the content, the page numbers and the cost. But the title of the book is "Prohibited Book" without the number on both cover and title page, although I recognize there are later follow-up volumes. I will be entering Prohibited Book 2 (3rd edition) and the content for Prohibited Book 3 as well. Of course, you are welcome to copy the content if you wish to do so.

The one I got was the box-set with the sketchbook - the copyright pages DOES have Prohibited Book 1 Susan O'Fearna 22:41, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I've entered the content for Prohibited Book 3 and added the price and a new cover scan. Please let me know if you do not approve. I think you should probably add to the notes for the volumes that come from the box-set because they really are not first printings. My copy of Prohibited Book does not have the "1" on the copyright page; the titles given on the copyright pages do not have "Book" in them either. As I understand the standards, the title as given on the title page should be the one used for the pub, not that on the jacket or on the copyright page. Bob 20:22, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I hadn't added most of the content for these three (five?) books b/c they're not (most of them) SpecFic - Prohibited was mostly erotica/pin-up art, but you're more than welcome to flesh them out :) -- I'll check them against the new Prohibited Book (the one that has most of the artwork from the first 3 plus new stuff) - the number also helps to differentiate from this new one that's just PROHIBITED BOOK... Susan O'Fearna 03:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Wild Sketches by Royo

I screwed up (again). I reentered the Wild Sketches books by Royo. The problem was I couldn't imagine them as non-genre, since they seem to be a mixture of both genre and non. Anyhow, they got accepted and both the ones you entered and the ones I entered now show. I don't believe that the duplicates can be eliminated unless they don't have verification. I wonder if you would remove your transient verifications and move them over to the ones I've entered, removing the verifications from the originals? I can remove mine and then reenter everything if you object. Bob 16:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I think this is a question for MHutchins or one of the other moderators... Susan O'Fearna 16:18, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I've merged the lot and deleted one of each (the one with less information). Please have a look at them and eventually choose a PV spot. Thanks. Hauck 16:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! There shouldn't be a conflict since Susan was a temporary; she can just add her verification again. Bob 19:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Women by Royo

I have added the remaining content to Women; please feel free to import that content to the editions you verified if you wish. Bob 21:36, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I'd already added all the genre art that was linked as book covers or appeared in other works (except I haven't finished linking them all with the Fantastic Art of... book) Susan O'Fearna 22:15, 3 February 2016 (UTC)