User talk:Datil Mountain Muse

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Hello, Datil Mountain Muse, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Mhhutchins 19:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Asimov's The Currents of Space

Thanks for updating this record. I'm assuming you're working from the actual book-in-hand. If so, please consider doing a primary verification of the record (instructions are linked in the Welcome section above). One question, is there a stated identification number? It's a four-digit number printed at the bottom on the back flap of the dustjacket. Considering the print month, it should be in the 1900-2300 range. That number should go in the ISBN/Catalog # field in the format "#nnnn". Thanks for checking and welcome again to the ISFDB. Mhhutchins 19:17, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I am on that steep portion of the learning curve. forgot the '#' in front of the ID No., fixed that. Finally found the ul html tag to bullet the notes section. Will add a few more notes after I get this better figured out. I am the original owner of the book, got it from SFBC back in high school, many years ago. Datil_Mountain_Muse 20:30, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Submission to update accepted. Don't sweat the mistakes. It will take some time to become proficient at editing and creating records. A question: according to the pagination you give, the page count (in ISFDB format) should be "xi+204". (The highest numbered roman numeral and the last numbered page of the book.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:46, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Something else to keep in mind when determining the page count: if there is text (not ads) on a page which follows the last numbered page, it (they) should be added to the page count. Does the text of the novel appear on the unnumbered page 204? Mhhutchins 22:30, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
No, it is a completely blank page, & all pages after are blank too. I read the discussion on pagination and unnumbered pages a couple times. The pagination in the notes was based upon an article at <a HREF="http://www.bookthink.com/0166/166pag1.htm">bookthink</a> . Oops, I see I misremembered that it was collation I am doing, & I did not get it exactly correct either. Datil_Mountain_Muse 23:20, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Pagination as recorded in the Note field is OK, but the page count field is different. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any text on the page [204]. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
BTW, linking from Wiki pages is different than from a regular internet page using HTML. These pages require Wiki mark up. So all you have to do is enter the URL between two squared brackets, [ and ], (anchors in HTML aren't necessary). You can name the link by leaving a space between the URL and name in the same set of brackets. So the link above should be to bookthink. Look at the raw data (click "edit") to see how this differs from HTML mark up.
Also, you should enter a colon before responding to a previous message, adding another colon to the number in the previous message. This indents the messages, making them easier to read and to follow the discussion. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)



Star Trek Reader IV

Re this record: what is the extra page as recorded in the page count field? (Also, I had to clean up the HTML in the Note field. For a tutorial on writing HTML in the Note field of ISFDB records see this help page.) Mhhutchins 23:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

The extra page is the "ABOUT THE AUTHOR"
Sorry about that, I do have the HTML page up in another tab, but am rusty on using HTML. Datil_Mountain_Muse 23:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Unless it's substantial, most editors disregard such content matter. But that's up to the individual editor. If the extra page is not numbered, it should entered into the page count field as "409+[1]", and there should be an explanation in the Note field. Square brackets around a number in the page count field indicate unnumbered pages.
HTML can be tricky. There are cases where it can be so madly formed that the record becomes unreadable. Until you learn how to create unnumbered lines, it may be best to stick with a simple line break (<br>). Put it at the end of each line when you want to start a new one. Thanks. (One other thing, sign your posts with just a space between the message and the signature, not on a separate line. You can see here how it's displayed otherwise.) Mhhutchins 00:12, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Changing primary verified records

You made a submission to change the page count of this primary verified record. As pointed out in the Welcome section above , it is ISFDB etiquette to inform the verifying editor of changes to a primary verified record. See this help page. If you're only adding data to the Note field, it is usually not necessary to notify them, but if you change any of the other data fields (or remove data from the Note field), it's best to discuss it with the editor before making a submission to edit the record. Most of the active editors have notification preference messages at the top of their talk pages. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:43, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Forgive me. I see that you had notified the primary verifying editor. I missed that. See, even moderators are human and make mistakes! Mhhutchins 23:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did read bluesmans discussion page, & left a note, I'm just real slow still finding my way around.
I have your discussion page up too, btw, I'm attempting to read & follow directions.
No problemo! My typing is very slow, I never learned in HS. Ha! Datil_Mountain_Muse 00:06, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
You'll pick up on the standards the more you edit. No one expects that you're gonna learn it all in one day or even one month. Veteran editors make mistakes now and then. So don't be too concerned, or worried that it's not gonna happen. And don't take any advice I'm doling out as personal criticism. Every new editor goes through it. Mhhutchins 00:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate the advice, just want to let you know I am reading the help & discussion sections and not blowing you off. Plus, I have never done any wiki editing before, so it's REALLY unfamiliar stuff. Datil_Mountain_Muse 00:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


Practice making new heading

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