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The Ambassador's Pet

You verified Imagination, October 1957, which contains The Ambassador's Pet by Robert Silverberg and Randall Garrett. However, the quasi-official Silverberg site lists this story as The Ambassador's Pit [1]. Would you mind checking that it is indeed Pet and not Pit? Thanks, Darkday 20:50, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

"Pet" it is and the illustration makes it clear it is not a typo.--swfritter 00:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Sent a "what's up" message to majipoor.--swfritter 00:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification! I was going to contact the majipoor webmaster myself, but I fear the site is no longer being updated. Darkday 01:30, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

How to Succeed at Science Fiction Without Really Trying

I have a copy of Science Fiction Stories, November 1956, which you verified. In the ISFDB, the title of Asimov's poem is indicated as "Parodies Tossed: How to Succeed at Science Fiction Without Really Trying". However, while "Parodies Tossed" appears in the table of contents of the magazine, it does not appear on page 110, where the poem begins. In the help it says "For short stories, essays and poems, when working from a primary source, always take the title from the heading on the page where the work begins." Shouldn't that be applied here? Darkday 19:14, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

There are a number of other "Parodies Tossed" entries. They should probably be in a series but keeping the name in the title guarantees that they can be searched. If I remember correctly there is (or were) conflicting entries in Help concerning title page vs ToC as the correct source of a story title.--swfritter 21:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Basically a series sounds like a good idea. It seems "Parodies Tossed" was a section in Science Fiction Stories, just like "Probability Zero" was a section in Astounding, and that is a series. But it's true that a title search for "Parodies Tossed" wouldn't return the poems then, only a search for the series "Parodies Tossed" woud lead (indirectly) to the poems. How about making "How to Succeed at Science Fiction Without Really Trying" the canonical title and "Parodies Tossed: How to Succeed at Science Fiction Without Really Trying" a variant title? Darkday 22:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Like this?. Don't know if that was your work or not. But series & variant sound fine. As with the item under discussion some of them have not been done yet. The various pieces appear not only in Science Fiction Stories but also in some other Robert W. Lowndes edited pubs but would seem all should be in the same series.--swfritter 22:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
No, this was not my work. But I tried to follow that example and create a variant title for How to Succeed .... The edit was rejected by Mhhutchins, and in a subsequent discussion he pointed out that "it is ISFDB standard to record only what is recorded on the work's title page." Do you agree? Thanks, Darkday 19:44, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
The titles should at the very least be placed in a series to show their relationships to one another. The variant title solution does seem a bit more complex than necessary. It seems inconsistent that the author of a story can be taken from either the ToC or title page but not the title. It seems like an editor should be allowed the leeway to practice a little bit of common sense. It was discussions like this that are a main reason why I substantially reduced the time I spend on the ISFDB.--swfritter 00:27, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
As an aside, why isn't the magazine called "The Original Science Fiction Stories"? It says so on the cover and on the spine. Thanks, Darkday 19:20, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Miller/Contento say "Original" is an advertising page added by the publisher. Ashely says it should be a part of the title.--swfritter 21:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Grabbed an issue. No "Original" in the title of the magazine as listed in the publishing information at the bottom of the ToC.--swfritter 22:03, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Apex Magazine, March 2009

I would imagine that the short story "The Puma" in this issue is by Theodora Goss rather than Theodore, but I thought I'd best check with you. Dwarzel 20:37, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Right you are - fixed.--swfritter 21:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

The Speaking Bone

In your verified publication, can you double check whether "The Speaking Bone" is listed as by Cat Howard instead of Kat Howard? In the publisher's contents for The Book of Apex: Volume 3 of Apex Magazine and the version on their website, it's Kat. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:20, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes. It is Kat. Fixed. Fixed, Merged.--swfritter 21:42, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

International Science-Fiction #2

Your verified pub International Science-Fiction #2 is missing records for a story and interior art: 'Der Heisse Kosmonaut' by Gust Gils on p.42, possibly because it was not listed in the Contents on p.4... Also The Island of Crabs is titled as such in the Contents but as "The Island of the Crabs" on p.49, and H. Sridhar Rao, M.D. is "B. Sridhar Rao, M.D." in the Contents and on p.79. Do you want to make the changes or shall I? Thanks. PeteYoung 17:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Go ahead. You should probably note the discrepancies in the notes.--swfritter 20:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Done, and I've also added a cover scan and done a PV2. PeteYoung 19:55, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Gerold ?

Hello, you've verified two stories attributed to David Gerold (instead of Gerrold ?), can you confirm this ? Thanks. Hauck 17:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Same for Joesepha Sherman in this pub.

Gerold is credited as such on tables of contents of zines and title pages of stories. There is no other information in the zines about the author. One story is on an honorable mention list. Sherman is credited as Josepha on cover, ToC and, title page of story. Name fixed.--swfritter 21:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
The story appears on Dozois' 2009 Honorable Mention list, but it is credited to David Gerrold on that list. Mhhutchins 23:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
An even bettter clue. I will variant.--swfritter 00:29, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Galaxy, July 1955

Can you check your copy of this issue to see if the interiorart pieces on pages 52 and 66 are attributed to the correct story and artist? They seem to be out of order. The verifier of the UK printing credits them differently. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 02:54, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Corrected title and artist data.--swfritter 16:04, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

"The Black Nebulae (Quintet, Part 1)"

FYI, I have changed the spelling of Alfred Bester's "The Black Nebulae (Quintet, Part 1)" to "The Black Nebulea (Quintet, Part 1)" after checking my copy of The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, September 1959. The title was apparently deliberately misspelled by Bester (along with many other words in the body of the story) since Bester was trying to write the way a 10 year old might write. I also deleted the following note:

  • Correcting title as it seems more a typo than intention: 7 Google hits for "Nebulea", but apparently mutually copied without comment or verification; 7 too for "Nebulae", though all from one page at Everything2. Also, changing the type to Poem per various mentions online - makes more sense with the subtitle. Anybody can verify this?
  • Spelling is "Nebulae" verified by mention in F&SF October 1959, and end of year index F&SF December 1959. See synopsis above.

Although the title of the story was spelled "Nebulae" on page 15 of the October 1959 issue where the authors' identities were revealed, that's not how it appeared in the September 1959 issue. Ahasuerus 05:47, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Galaxy, January 1958

Can you see if perhaps there is an extra interiorart piece for "The Knights of Arthur" in this issue? It was translated into French and published in this issue of Galaxie with four interiorart pieces. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 00:22, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Three pieces of artwork but the first consists of one piece of art that takes up the right half of the title page and and all of the next page. The third piece is a single work that takes up the top half of two pages. Perhaps a single piece of art was published on non-successive pages? Most likely the second work which has two men on the left half (page 44) and a suitcase with wire leading from it on the right half (page 45). Some of those wires are extended to the artwork on page 44.--swfritter 22:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
I've asked Hauck to join the discussion. He verified the French reprint and may be able to compare the art in that issue with your descriptions here. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
In the french issue the artwork are : pages 76 & 77 : a man trying to open a typewriter, page 89 two men on a boat, page 92 : two men in front of dials and page 94 a suitcase with wires, it indeed seems that the artwork from pages 92 & 94 was just one piece split in two. Hauck 07:15, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. Mhhutchins 15:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Bill Westley

Hello, can you have a look at this PVed issue to see if author is given as "Westley" or "Wesley" ? Thanks. Hervé Hauck 09:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

"Wesley" it is. Author changed and title merged.--swfritter 20:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

The Man with the X-Ray Eyes

Dream World, February 1957 contains The Man With X-Ray Eyes. Although it is spelled that way on the cover, I think that the title should rather be "The Man with the X-Ray Eyes", since this is the spelling on the title page of the story. Do you agree? Thanks, Darkday 00:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Corrected title of story and art and also changed "With" to "with" as per capitalization standards.--swfritter 22:40, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Science Fiction Adventure Classics, Winter 1969

Hello. In your verified 251436, the name of the artist on p. 88 rather unusually, has a dot after the first name. Could you please check. Thank you! ForJohnScalzi 01:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Out, damn dot.--swfritter 22:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Fantasy Magazine (2011 ezine)

Do we have permission to deep link our records (for the 2011 ezines) to the cover image files on the publisher's server? Mhhutchins 06:56, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Publisher and editor John Joseph Adams actually did so himself when he entered data from some of the early issues of Lightspeed. When Lightspeed and Fantasy merged the covers became less accessible and I stopped linking to them. I am not sure that the covers of Fantasy are that easy to find.--swfritter 18:58, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Before we can deep link, we must have explicit permission from the website's owner. The next best option is download the cover image files to your hard drive, resize them to ISFDB standards and then re-up them to our server. Mhhutchins 20:36, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
See this. The publisher gives permission to his ISFDB persona to link the covers.--swfritter 20:41, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Blaylock interview

I've changed the interviewee of this record to James P. Blaylock, followign the ISFDB standard of giving the canonical name, regardless of how its given in the publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

The Hyborian Age

I would like to reclassify "The Hyborian Age" from ESSAY to SHORTFICTION. The piece is obviously fiction; there are two pubs containing this content that I don't believe should be called NONFICTION based on the label ESSAY on "The Hyborian Age". You verified The Hour of the Dragon with this content. Please comment on the proposed reclassification at my page. Bob 03:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

The Pilgrims of the Rhine

This record comes up on the pub/title author mismatch list. Either it is wrongly credited or it's under the wrong title record. Thanks for looking at it to make the correction. (I would do it, but I'm not sure which is correct.) Mhhutchins 03:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

After some research, I've been able to correct the error. Mhhutchins 16:18, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Submissions in queue

Perhaps you've forgotten about this submission? It's been in the queue for a couple of weeks. Mhhutchins 03:43, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Generally try to remember to check more often at the end of sessions.--swfritter 18:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Same or different review of Vance's Big Planet...

... by Silverberg / Knox in this and this? In case you find the time to see if there's a genuine new review or just a reprint of the first publication both titles could be merged or get a note. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 07:52, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

The reviews are different. One is for the Avalon edition and one for an Ace Double edition. I will make a note in each pub.--swfritter 20:47, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Clarkesworld Magazine, April 2008

Hello. In your verified 285178 could you please check cover artist's name, one too many t is suspected. Thank you, ForJohnScalzi 00:31, 18 March 2013 (UTC).

The artist's name is spelled incorrectly on the ToC but correctly with the artwork. Pub updated.--swfritter 19:40, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

The Avon Fantasy Reader

Hi! I'm inquiring about the artist credit for The Avon Fantasy Reader. The initial verifier is no longer active on this site, so I'm asking you about this. My copy lists the cover artist as Gray Morrow, but the artist's name of the book listed on this site is Gary Morrow. I can change it, but the name on your copy may be different. Inquiring minds want to know. MLB 21:34, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

It truly would be an amazing anomaly if the name were different from yours. But it's not. I made the change and will notify the other verifiers.--swfritter 00:02, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Wollheim / Lowndes and "The Outpost at Altark" in Nov. 1940 Super Science Stories

While looking at a submission involving Robert A. W. Lowndes, I stumbled across The Outpost at Altark by Robert W. Lowndes, made into a variant of this by Donald A. Wollheim, for whom Robert A. W. Lowndes is set up as a pseudonym. And, of course, Robert W. Lowndes is also a pseudonym of Robert A. W. Lowndes. According to the SF Encyclopedia, Lowndes and Wollheim wrote it together, with Wollheim uncredited.

It looks to me like having either a pseudonym of the other is not appropriate, and the relationships as they currently stand are messed up (circular) and should be straightened out. Hervé is the verifier of the Wollheim collection also containing this title. I'm going to point him here so the two of you can hash this out. If I'm wrong, you guys can ignore me. :-) Thanks. --MartyD 16:17, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

As per Wollheim's introduction to this story in _Up There and Other Strange Directions_, he really wrote the story and submitted it under his name but the editor of the magazine deliberately published it Under Lowndes' name to show its power (or so DAW says). Hauck 16:58, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
So should we then just have a variant with no pseudonym? --MartyD 20:41, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, we don't have an "or" option for authors. This is only one of many early stories by Futurian authors which have questionable original publication credits. They were writing so fast and furiously that the authors could quite often not remember which stories or parts of stories they wrote. It seems to me that the Encyclopedia entry is from a more neutral source and they may have other sources than DAW. Maybe a canonical title with Lowndes and DAW as authors and one variant with Lowndes as the author and another variant with DAW as the author. No pseudonym relationship would be necessary in this case.--swfritter 00:12, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Between a supposed (SFE) and a clearly stated (the author himself) source, IMHO, the latter is to be trusted in the absence of other data. I'd let the mess like it is, even if it's unsatisfactory or try the route of a disambiguation with the creation of an author along the lines of "Robert A. W. Lowndes (pseudonym of DAW)". Hauck 06:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I guess we could send the SFE guys an e-mail and ask where their data comes from. Ahasuerus 07:58, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
One other thought: If the original was credited to "Robert W. Lowndes" and we believe that to be Wollheim, shouldn't that be the pseudonym relationship (Robert W. Lowndes, pseud for Donald A. Wollheim (AND for Robert A. W. Lowndes))? Not Robert A. W. Lowndes as a pseudonym for for Donald A. Wollheim? And then the variant be from the Robert W.-credited title to the Wollheim-credited title? It was never published as by Robert A. W. Lowndes. Maybe that's the crux of the problem. --MartyD 10:35, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Fantastic, March 1960

Hi, the cover artist for your verified magazine is listed as Paul Frame, but the signature on the cover spells Jed Thayer. What does the contents page have to say about this? Thanks. Horzel 12:28, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Paul Frame is credited on the ToC and also by Contento and Ashley. I will note in magazine comments.--swfritter 14:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Fantasy Fiction, November 1953

I accepted a submission changing the editor credit on Fantasy Fiction, November 1953's title record from Lester del Rey to Cameron Hall. Your verified publication record was already so credited. I couldn't easily tell what the original state was when you verified it back in 2007, and I didn't see any notifications related to this, so I figured I'd mention it and ask you to look both over. Thanks. --MartyD 11:16, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. My mistake. I shouldn't have accepted the submission, and there's already a variant. I restored it. --MartyD 11:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. An easy mistake for an editor to make since the variant relationship does not show within the pub.--swfritter 15:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

The 6 Fingers of Time

Hello, I've uploaded a scan and changed the title pub of this anthology from _The 6 Fingers of Time and 5 Other Science Fiction Novelets _ to _The 6 Fingers of Time and Other Stories_ as per title page. Hauck 08:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

No Guts, No Glory

Elerner submitted a change to No Guts, No Glory which would convert the title to "No GUTs, No Glory". Since you verified the publication, I placed the submission on hold and left a message for the user stating they needed to notify verifiers when making a change. As it's been a week and they haven't done so, I'm bringing it to your attention. The user's rationale is in the moderator's note of the submission. Would you mind taking a look at it? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

The change is justified. It might be a good idea to not the meaning of the acronym in the title notes. Thanks for the notification.--swfritter 17:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Galaxy, March 1955

Please confirm whether the art is credited on page 89 of this publication to Irv Doktor or the more commonly used name Irv Docktor. Thanks. Mhhutchins 13:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

The same situation for the interior art in this publication. Mhhutchins 13:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

The credit for the first is Docktor. Made the change. The second set of credits are as entered. Use a variant?--swfritter 13:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Ed Arno vs. Ed Amo

You are now the primary verifier for this issue of F&SF. It is listed as having a cartoon by "Ed Amo" (in caps: AMO). That is almost certainly "Ed Arno" (in caps: ARNO), but typographically easy to confuse for whoever entered the contents. Could you verify this and, presumably, correct the spelling? Thanks Chavey 16:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Credited on ToC to Ed Arno. Change made.--swfritter 14:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Great Science Fiction About Doctors (again)

My copy of Great Science Fiction About Doctors has a cover with alternate coloring but is otherwise identical to the description of your copy. My initial reaction to variations in coloring is that they don't require a separate publication record. However, I've encountered other titles where publications have been entered that way. In any case, I've added a link to a scan of the cover variant and added my own verification. I'll direct the other verifier here. Please let me know if you feel a different publication record is warranted. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Unless there is some other reason to believe that a different color indicates a separate edition I can't see that another record is necessary.--swfritter 19:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

The Candle of Distant Earth

Please confirm the publication date given in this record. Is it possible to have been published three years before the first hardcover edition? (I only know enough about ebooks to be dangerous.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Date corrected. Although not true in this case, there have been more than a few books that have been first published as ebooks and later in print when they became popular.--swfritter 14:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Gold editorial in Galaxy, September 1958

Can you confirm the spelling of the editorial in this issue? It was reprinted as "QWERTYUIOP". Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 04:03, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

One more Gold editorial to check: the one published in [ June 1959". It was reprinted as "Special Delivery" ("y" at the end"). Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:03, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Errors in both cases. Changes made.--swfritter 23:04, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

A Guide to the Moon

Please, could you check and see if this is the same as this in Astounding Science Fiction, February 1954? MLB 09:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Spelling error fixed and review link made. Good eye.--swfritter 19:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Jaeger or Jarger?

In your verified pub SF The Early Years, should the author entry (p.388) for The Question Mark, by Muriel Jarger, be by Muriel Jaeger?--Rkihara 18:27, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Bleiler uses the full name but the title was published only with the author's first initial. In order to avoid pseudonym and orphan author issue the discrepancy is noted in the review title notes.--swfritter 18:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
I made "M. Jaeger" into a pseudonym after adding three other titles (2 published under the full name) based on listings in Reginald1 and OCLC. Mhhutchins 19:59, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Wellman's Wonder as I Wonder Vignettes

Please see this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:03, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

The Avon Fantasy Reader

Please see this discussion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:25, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

If, January 1967

Just a note that I have added John and Sandra Miesel's letter to your verified If, January 1967. Ahasuerus 03:46, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Ditto Arthur C. Clarke's letter in If, June 1967. Ahasuerus 04:12, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Foreign Exchange

Could you verify the author on the story "Foreign Exchange" from this publication? According to Nina Kiriki Hoffman (author) and Kevin J. Anderson (editor) this story was re-printed in 2013 and is by Nina Kiriki Hoffman... and I'm confused!!! Susan O'Fearna 19:49, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

The copyright page verifies that Hoffman is the author. The story in F&SF is indeed credited to Aurelia. Which presumably means that Robin Aurelia is a pseudonym for Hoffman. I see you maintain an excellent bibliography. If you are able to contact Hoffman perhaps you could get her to verify that all of the Aurelia stories are indeed by her.--swfritter 21:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Story from Helix Magazine

The actual title of the story listed as "Dead Silence" from this publication seems to be "Dead Silent", according to the author's homepage and this website. Is it ok if I change it? Fsfo 15:31, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Certainly a more authoritative source. Please make a notation in the pub and in the title record for the story stating the source. Thanks!--swfritter 20:08, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

The Eidolon

This record for an October 2013 publication was created from Amazon data. The ISBN-10 was entered for the record when all books published after 2007 should be using the ISBN-13. The price also looks to be a typo. Amazon gives it as $7.99. Thanks. Mhhutchins 07:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

This record also has an ISBN-10. (Both records came up on a clean-up script which finds misaligned ISBNs.) Mhhutchins 07:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! About the only time I enter books is when they are the subject if a review.--swfritter 00:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
I've updated both records using the data on Amazon. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:59, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Kuttner's The Graveyard Rat(s) and Others

Changed the title of The Graveyard Rat and Others from Kuttner's "The Graveyard Rat and Others" to "The Graveyard Rats and Others" before I saw your note that you wanted to be pre-notified. Sorry; I'm new. Lee 20:19, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm holding the submission for the verifier's response. Please use the "+" (plus) tab to start a new topic. That let's the user know that there's a new post which needs a response. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
The Amazon listing and its "Look Inside" feature gives it as "Rats" so I'll accept the submission. If the verified copy is different please update the record. Mhhutchins 21:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks!--swfritter 22:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Larry Niven's Rainbow Mars

Please see ISFDB:Community Portal#Larry Niven.27s Rainbow Mars. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Cover Art for Spaceway, April 1955

Hi, I've just added a pic with Paul Blaisdell's cover art: Spaceway, April 1955 - JLochhas 12:54, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't mind if you add cover art to my verified pubs without notifying me.--swfritter 23:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Publisher on Shadow on the Stars

Your verified Shadow on the Stars has the publisher as "Rosetta Books", with a space. Fixer's submission of Brave New World Revisited used "RosettaBooks", with no space. The Amazon Look-Inside for that confirms it's "RosettaBooks, LLC". It also mentions a prior electronic edition in 2000, which is contemporaneous with Shadow on the Stars. Would you double-check the publisher credit? Thanks. --MartyD 11:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

"RosettaBooks, LLC" is correct. Change made. My copy of the book states that the first electronic edition was published in 2001.--swfritter 20:30, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Pseudonym to be established?

Hi, I'd think that Sternback as cover artist for { Galaxy, July 1975] could or should be a pseudonym for Rick Sternbach, or is it one of those devilish typos? Stonecreek 04:35, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Typo. Changed. Although I did not change it to Rich Sternbach since the cover is only credited by last name. If it fits with current policy I would suggest that it be changed to Rick Sternbach and a note placed in the pub.--swfritter 23:36, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

The Twins of Devonshire and the Curse of the Widow

I removed the series data from this CHAPTERBOOK record (per ISFDB standards) and entered it into the SHORTFICTION title record. Mhhutchins 22:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Something I noted at the time but which I forgot to fix. Thanks for the heads up.

Now if I can only remember to check the submission list at the end of every session.--swfritter 18:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Held submission

I'm holding a submission that wants to change one your PV records. Please join this discussion if you have the time. Mhhutchins 18:18, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Universe, March 1955

Can you confirm the spelling of the story (and its interiorart record) on page 9 of this issue? Some secondary sources give it as "Mistress of Viridis". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Indeed it is "Mistress of Viridis". Changes made to both story and artwork titles.--swfritter 18:30, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Amazing 1959-05

Hello, I've changed the authors of _Initiative_ from Strugatsky to Strugatski. Hauck 13:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Amazing March 1970

Hello, the cover of your verified here is the same as this german PR as is usual for late 60s and early 70s Amazings. The credit to "Willis" (and the fact that the cover illustrates one precise text) is purely bogus. What are your thoughts on the proper way to handle this ? Hauck 17:47, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Problem solved Hauck 19:52, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Amazing covers

Hi, even if it's fine not notifying you... I'm completing the cover artist for a set of Amazing editions. This one is the first.. JLochhas 19:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Good work.--swfritter 21:18, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


Changed authorship of Utley's text from Steven Utley to Steve Utley as per title page in your verified pub.Hauck 20:20, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

My copy misplaced. Probably take 20 years to find it. Notes say "Steve Uley". Should be "Utley"?--swfritter 21:18, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes :-( Hauck 06:19, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

"Of Time and Eustace Weaver"

I'm not certain whether this should be considered the title of a three-part story, or a group title for three individual stories. This situation has been discussed several times over the years, and one of the two approaches has been accepted: 1) Each of the works is considered an individual story with its own title record and the group title isn't entered into the publication record (in some cases, the stories are entered into a "series" as the group title (see here), or 2) Each of the works is considered a part of a single story, and only the group title is given in the publication record (see here). As it stands now this record tries to do a mix of both methods and doesn't succeed very well. You can see how the "story" appears three times in every publication due to the varianting done of the three "parts". I would suggest using the first method, but a discussion among the primary verifying editors might form a general consensus on how to handle the situation. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:55, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Done. Main downside is that the lack of page numbers in ebooks means the stories are separated in my pub. And the the 33 stories in the pub title are now a little off. Still a better solution.--swfritter 16:54, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
There's a relatively new way of sorting content titles, documented here.
If the entered page number causes the item to appear in the wrong position relative to the other items in the publication, you can append an optional "sorting" number which will control where the item will appear. To enter a "sorting" page number, append the "pipe" character ("|") to the end of the regular page number value and then enter the number that the software will use to determine where to display the current Content item.
It's especially good for ordering contents in ebooks. Mhhutchins 17:54, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Ah! The invisible page numbers I think I remember suggesting. It's always "be careful what you ask for". When title level web links were implemented I had the wonderful task of removing the links from about 1600 librivox title notes and moving them to the title level web links field.--swfritter 17:56, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

"Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wristlet", #24

I corrected the month of publication for your pdf verified edition of this magazine, from July to August, based on the publishers web page for this issue. Chavey 04:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

My entry is based upon what is actually printed in the magazine. If you will note from the small print of the page that is referenced, July is also listed there. To add to the confusion B&N lists a September release date. The most probable explanation is that that the release was delayed for some reason.--swfritter 15:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I changed it back to July, and added a note about the various dates. Chavey 20:57, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
No biggie. Magazine dating is a notorious pain.--swfritter 17:52, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Author Typo?

The entry for "A Trip to the North Pole . . ." in SF The Early Years p. 444 is credited to Lendelof though SFE3 credits Lindelof.--Rkihara 16:12, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. Fixed.--swfritter 23:35, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

If, May 1962

Please see the proposed edit by Judas to If, May 1962 which I have on hold. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:29, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

I do not see a signature on the lower left of my copy. Contento credits as "?" and Strauss credits as "unknown".--swfritter 18:03, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
I have rejected the change and pointed the editor here to discuss it. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:25, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
My copy has the signature. As usual, this website won't let me upload a scan. If someone will contact me at, I'd be happy to email the scan of the cover w/signature. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Judas (talkcontribs) .
I've left instructions on your talk page on how to upload images to the ISFDB server. Mhhutchins 01:07, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
If you're talking about the cover, there is a signature. I have a couple of copies of that issue and one of my copies is trimmed ~1/4" longer on the bottom than the cover scan. I can't read the signature since it's cut through the midline on a slant, but it is there.--Rkihara 00:29, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I was emailed a 15 megabyte cover scan which I will resize and upload to the ISFDB server. Mhhutchins 18:21, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Here it is. The artist's signature is visible in the lower left corner. Mhhutchins 18:33, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Probably a good color blindness test. I usually came out average on such tests.--swfritter 19:28, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
The signature does not show up in the scan, it still looks like the old file, with the bottom area containing the signature cut off.--Rkihara 22:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
You need to refresh your cache (usually the F5 key works). Your browser is still showing you the old version even though it's been uploaded. It's a problem with the older wiki software we use. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:25, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Startling Stories, March 1947

I already left a note on your verifications page about changing the artist for one piece of artwork in this issue. There is another that I feel should be changed, but I wanted to check with you first. This piece is currently credited to "Hardison". However that signature looks to me to be the same one as used by M. Marchioni. If you agree, there are also a few other titles attributed to Hardison which may be based on the same reading of the signature. I'm going to direct the other verifier of those magazines to this discussion. Also in looking up names for this post, I happened upon this title which I suspect has Marchioni's name misspelled. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:46, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

The two Startling Stories credits are both Marchioni rather than Hardison or Marchoni. Fixed. I have one of the Planet Stories and the artwork there is editorially credited as Hardison. I suspect the same is true for the other Planet Stories credits.--swfritter 20:23, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
The artwork in the two Planet Stories that I verified are clearly signed "Hardison."--Rkihara 21:55, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Terry Carr Letter in Startling Stories, July 1951

Our records have a letter credited to Terry Carr listed on page 138 of the July 1951 issue of Startling Stories. I'm unable to find a letter by Carr on that page. However, there is one by Lin Carter on that page and I suspect that it is the letter that you (or whoever entered the letter) intended to reflect. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:48, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Fixed.--swfritter 16:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Startling Stories, March 1952

I'm going to add the essay on page 9 of the March 1952 issue of Startling Stories. I would have left this note on your secondary notifications page, but I also wanted to ask about the ESSAY listed on page 127 which I suspect was intended to be INTERIORART. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:03, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Fixed.--swfritter 16:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

F&SF, March 2009

In my ebook, the William Tenn essay is title "That Hell-Bound Train by Robert Bloch—And a Kind of Excuse-It-Please Memoir". The ISFDB record is missing the word "of" between "Kind" and "Excuse-It-Please". Could you please verify the title? <Funslinger 06:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)>

Wrong page number, too! Fixed.

F&SF, June/July 2009

In my ebook, the title of the Curiosities piece is "The McLandress Dimension, by John Kenneth Galbraith (1963)" with a capital L. Please verify. Thanks. <Funslinger 23:27, 10 July 2014 (UTC)>

Quite so. Fixed. Thanks.--swfritter 17:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

"The Edmond Hamilton Megapack: 16 Classic Science Fiction Tales"

We have two editions of The Edmond Hamilton Megapack: 16 Classic Science Fiction Tales, one verified by you and the other one from Amazon. The Amazon one has a cover scan and an ISBN, but otherwise they look the same. Could you please compare them to see if your version has the same ISBN and if the cover matches? TIA! Ahasuerus 18:49, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

No ISBN in mine. And there is no ISBN in the Amazon look inside. Perhaps the ISBN is from a no longer available (POD?) print version. I seem to remember such beasts being available at one time for this series.--swfritter 19:01, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Hm, let's see... Checking other sources, I see that WorldCat, OverDrive, Google Books, B&N, Goodreads, and Amazon all use this ISBN for the e-book version. And Amazon's Look Inside suggests that other Megapack collections are also missing ISBNs even though they clearly have them since you can successfully search by ISBN. Bummer.
Perhaps we can add the ISBN to our record and add a note to the effect that it doesn't appear in the book itself? Ahasuerus 20:27, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Good idea. Have done so and removed one copy. That helps fulfill something I personally consider an ISFDB mission - helping users navigate to places where they can procure a publication. I also noted that the ebook has a version number. Good thing for bibliographers. Amazon does update ebook texts. I downloaded another copy hoping there was a new version with an ISBN but that is not the case.--swfritter 23:16, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this! And yes, I agree that more links to other places -- be they bookstores, libraries or other biblio sites -- are a good thing. Ahasuerus 23:41, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Tales From Nights Black Agents

User DavidCRead found credit for the coverart of Tales From Nights Black Agents in Jane Frank's 'The Art of Richard Powers'. The initials on the cover don't match Power's signature however, so no cover credit was given, only a note added. --Willem H. 19:58, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Cover art credit for issues of Lightspeed

I've made some changes in the cover art field of two issues of Lightspeed based on the data found on the publisher's website. The credit for this issue was changed from "Julie Dillion." [sic] to "Julie Dillon", and added the credit for this issue by Vitaly S. Alexius. I will note the source of these credits in case they don't appear or are credited differently in your copies. (These changes were prompted by a new editor's submissions to change your verified record. When asked to notify you, they cancelled the submissions.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:46, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

I am proceeding to add the cover art credit which is missing from other issues, with the publisher's website sourced in the Note field. Mhhutchins 03:52, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

I think there is usually an Artist Spotlight and an Artist Gallery that are done by the cover artist.--swfritter 17:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

The Square Root of Man

Hi, I have found the cover artist for your verified copy of The Square Root of Man. It is Stephen Miller, look here.--Dirk P Broer 15:17, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I would have no problem if you actually credited the artist in the appropriate field.--swfritter 17:17, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

The same artist also did Off All Possible Wolrds, according to this source.--Dirk P Broer 21:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

The Cold Green Eye/Cold Green Eye

Hello, I've changed the title of this story (dropped the article) in this magazine as per title page. Hauck 07:30, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I also unmerged and retitled the artwork along with giving the variant title the same date as the first published version of the story.--swfritter 21:21, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I wondered if that was useful and if the artwork somehow should "retained" the canonical title.Hauck 05:01, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Satellite Science Fiction: June 1957

I added an art credit to Satellite Science Fiction: June 1957 for the story Ben's Idea. The artwork is the only signed artwork in the magazine. I hope that this is okay. MLB 00:58, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

By-the-way, did you know that there is a Hugo Gernsback editorial reprinted on page 95 and it is not credited on the contents page? MLB 01:03, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Pub updated. It would have been fine by me if you had added the Gernsback essay also. Thanks.--swfritter 21:15, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic Novels Magazine

I've noticed that you are the prime verifier for this magazine. I recently acquired a complete run of this magazine (and I'm happily reading, carefully, many of them) and I would like to list some of the more well-known sf personalities and fans that have had their letters published in this magazine (Robert Silverberg!!!). Let me know if this is okay. MLB 20:50, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Some good reading. A good perspective on early SF. I have the entire runs of Famous Fantastic Mysteries, Fantastic Novels, & A. Merritt and read through them all a couple of years ago. The magazines have been unfairly criticised for "substantial" edits but with a few exceptions the stories are intact. Feel free to add any and all letters that I may have overlooked. As I was reading the mags I also read the letter columns. A lot of "I liked story X", "I have these mags to sell" but also some interesting letters from and about female readers and about fandom in general. Since addresses are included with letters you can use google earth to see where some of your favorite writers used to live. --swfritter 01:46, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. And yes, I've noticed a larger amount of women in the letter columns of this magazine than in most of the pulps and facsimiles that I've read. And so many of these issues have stories that have not been reprinted since, like Three Against the Stars which is also an early example of the Christian sf sub-genre.
By the way, my theory is that you can probably trace sf fandom through the early magazine's letter columns. MLB 03:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic Novels, Part II

Added several letters to Fantastic Novels, September 1940. Several names will have to be varianted however, Paul H. Spencer is Paul Spencer, for example. I'll do that if my update is accepted. MLB 03:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Added a letter to Fantastic Novels, November 1940. Everything by D. B. Thompson seems to have stopped in 1941. I wonder if he wasn't killed in the war. MLB 02:47, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Added some letters to Fantastic Novels Magazine, July 1950. MLB 03:04, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Typo change

In F&SF DEC 1993, the caption of the cartoon on page 143 was modified from "the jackpot" to "a jackpot". Syzygy 19:47, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Darrell Schweitzer Duplicates

On checking for duplicates of Darrell Schweitzer's works, this page shows two sets of possible duplicates for bios written by Schweitzer. All four are in separate issues of Amazing. On checking my copies, I see that there are no duplicates - all are distinct. Would this mean they should be disambiguated so they don't show up as possible duplicates? Would this be done by adding the magazine & date after the original titles, and is it advisable to do so? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:00, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Good idea. That is consistent with the way editorials, book review columns, etc. are done.--swfritter 23:50, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Changes submitted. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 03:15, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Mystic Magazine-November 1953

I just ordered a facsimile of this issue from Amazon. I put the cover image here into your entry. If this is incorrect then I'm sorry. MLB 01:42, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Alright by me. I noticed that the facsimile editions have been entered as anthologies which is the way same way I have been entering such editions. All good.--swfritter 02:43, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Me too. Even though they are "facsimiles" I have found some of them to be altered. Missing pages, missing artwork, missing columns, shuffled contents, etc. MLB 02:51, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

... And Some Were Human: Powers or Brilhart

Can you join this discussion about the cover artist of this pub? Thanks, --Willem H. 14:47, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Science Fiction Adventures, April 1958

Giving Science Fiction Adventures, April 1958 a cover image. I've been clearing up the Emsh page and found several dozen variants to merge. This issue is also the original version of this paperback. MLB 22:04, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Also a cover image for this issue of this magazine. MLB 23:11, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic Story Quarerly, Spring 1950

Hello. I added the cover to your pv'd pub. Also, this pub credits the cover art to Earle K. Bergey and the interior art to The Hidden World to Virgil Finlay. Is this enough to add the info to your pub? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 20:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Changes made.--swfritter 22:17, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Amazing Stories: April 2014

I know that your banner sez not to notify you, but it's only polite to inform you that I added a cover image to the above magazine. MLB 00:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.--swfritter 20:58, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Astounding, July 1956

I was merging the reviews in this issue with those from the UK reprint and noticed that there is an extra review in the UK edition. Can you confirm that there is no review for The Boy Who Discovered the Earth in the US edition of this issue? Thanks for checking. (I'm leaving this message on the talk pages of the first two primary verifiers of the US edition.) Mhhutchins 19:44, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

It's there. Added the review and merged it.Notified the other verifiers.--swfritter 23:34, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

The Lost Continent in Famous Fantastic Mysteries, December 1944

This interior art title by Virgil Finlay is credited in The Collectors' Book of Virgil Finlay as illustrating the The Lost Continent in the December 1944 issue of Famous Fantastic Mysteries. However, the note on that issue states that all unsigned artwork is assumed to be Lawrence based on the contents page credit. I've added a note to--swfritter 23:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC) the Finlay record indicating the discrepancy. If you'd like to double check the magazine, the illustration in the Finlay book is signed in the bottom right corner. The illustration depicts a plane in front of a mountain flying over riders on mastodons in front of a building with towers and what is likely an onion dome. The illustration is an inverted L shape, presumably leaving room for text. If that doesn't match any any of the illustrations, I can adjust the note to indicate that the Finlay drawing definitely does not appear in the magazine. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:44, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Very strange. All of the illustrations look like Lawrence and there is no illustration that matches your description. The closest is a full page piece with a woman riding a mastodon in what appears to be a courtyard with pyramids. No airplane. Perhaps Finlay was not able to fulfill the assignment and Lawrence stepped in. If I remember correctly Finlay was in the military at this time and his work was somewhat sporadic during this period.--swfritter 23:17, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
The illustration I refer to also has Lawrence's initials [LS] which are often hard to find on his work but this one is fairly obvious.--swfritter 00:21, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. I'll adjust the notes and assume that the Finlay drawing was never used with the new book being its first publication. Thanks again. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Guess I'll be eating beans & rice for a month so I can afford a copy of the book.--swfritter 23:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)