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Hello, Spacecow, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Annie 15:30, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

Primary verified publications


When changing primary verified publications, the DB etiquette asks for the other PVs to be notified. As the change you did was small and just in the notes and did not materially changed the publication, I made the notification and approved it but please contact the other verifiers before changed. Editors that do not want notifications for certain actions (notes updates for example), their talk pages will specify that. Thanks! Annie 17:42, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

Ace Fitzroy editions of Jules Verne

I've updated the Publisher Series The Fitzroy Edition of Jules Verne by amalgamating the information from the wiki page. Because this has been set up as a publisher series, the Ace editions don't quite fit, so I have taken the liberty of modifying these publications to refer to a new series The Fitzroy Edition of Jules Verne (Ace), which I will make a dependant of the original series. ../Doug H 15:37, 18 February 2020 (EST)

Conan the Usurper

Hi! It would seem that we already have your suggested addition of a publication in this list (the third one). Is there anything setting the two apart? Stonecreek 06:30, 13 March 2020 (EDT)

Hi moderator, if you are here ask me what I am doing, you have all the right to do so

I verify my owned books, if they don't exist I try to add that edition. I think i just realised I have been using the clone button as a preview button, which is why I have so many cloned book submissions of the same book. I do not dare touch other members submissions, and I have no idea how to answer people that write on my message board or how to DM/PM members here. But I do the best I can. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spacecow (talkcontribs) .

You are doing fine. :) You answer to people here the same way you posted this message - except that you use the small Edit button on the right side of the title of the message you are responding to instead of the tabs at the top. We do not have a DM/PM system but you can leave a message on anyone's Talk page in the same way you just left this one here :) Annie 11:53, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
So if I write something here, you will get notified? How does that work? Anyone who has written something in this thread (let's say a third person had written something here as well) will get notified whenever there is an update? --Spacecow 18:35, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
I have you on my watch list. If you look at the bottom of the screen, there is a checkbox for that ("Watch this page") -- and when I post somewhere, I always leave it checked. If someone else posts and leaves it checked, they will also get the change into their watchlist. So it popups up on my Watchlist - and I look at it often :) You can also add a page to your watchlist by clicking on the tab for that at the top of the page. As I greeted you the first time, you are permanently on my watchlist - I never remove people.
And as we know that new editors can get a bit lost, most moderators will also look at Recent Changes occasionally to see if a new editor may need help with something where noone is watching or where the watchers are on vacation or something. We are a friendly bunch and tend to try to take care of our new editors. :) Annie 18:50, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

The Pool of Fire & The City of Gold and Lead

Hello. You've asked a couple of questions in the Note to Moderator field of your submisisons here and here, which I will try to answer as best I can :) (by the way, that's not the right way to ask these kind of questions. Much better to post questions like these over at the Help Desk (press '+' next to edit at the top of that screen for a new question/subject)

  • For The Pool of Fire you asked ' Price is $1.50, cover says $1.25. Do you want me to try to correct this, or do you want me to turn to the uploader? If the Edit History is empty, does that mean the sole (in this case) primary verifier is the uploader? '
    • For older records (like this one), there is no edit history available as the version of the ISFDB at the time did not keep submission information yet
    • If an edit history exists, you can use that info to determine the very first editor that submitted the record. However, there's no need to contact the initial submitter, only the verifiers (if any) need to be contacted for notification/confirmation (see next bullet).
    • As to your question how to fix this, the standard approach is to confirm with any other (active) verifier if he/she agrees with the correction by posting on his/her talk page. Now, for this case Kpulliam has not been active for a long time, and in addition he transiently verified the publication, meaning he had it only temporarily in his possession - probably from a library. So, since it isn't possible to ask him, you can fix this record for the Fifth Collier Books printing of The Pool of Fire yourself by either updating the price from $1.50 to $1.25 (but only if the cover of your 5th printing says $1.25 too). Alternatively, you can upload a new cover scan and leaving the price at $1.50 - assuming of course that the cover of your 5th printing copy says $1.50.
  • For The City of Gold and Lead you asked ' price says $0.95, cover says $1.25. Do you want me to report this to... the person uploading this edition? How do I know who that person is? '
    • As above. You can contact the primary verifier on his/her talk page to ask whether the price is wrong, or the cover image. As Taweiss has been active as recent as August 29th, he should be answering fairly quickly. He will either fix it himself, or ask you to fix the error.

As both your submissions didn't change anything, and I've (hopefully) answered your questions to your satisfaction, I've rejected them. I will monitor your talk page, so you can reply here (by pressing the edit at the right of this subject's title, and indenting with one or more colons ':') with any answers or further questions you may have. Or over at the the Help Desk of course! Happy editing! Regards, MagicUnk 09:58, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

My printing clearly states $0.95 on the cover. Perhaps you have a later printing. TAWeiss 17:57, 7 September 2020 (EDT)

The Sands of Mars

A few items on cover images:

  • Cover images should be uploaded using the "Upload new cover scan" option on the publication. If you are adding a new publication, you should wait for the publication to be added and then upload it using the link. The link will properly name the image as well as apply the correct templates.
  • Cover images should be limited to 600px on the largest side.
  • Once you have uploaded a cover to the wiki, you need to click on the image (so you get just the image) and copy that URL. The link should not have "archive" in it (if it does this means you clicked on the date link on an old version in the File history section). If the link has an archive, it will only ever show that image and never update if someone uploads a better image.

For all of those reasons, I took Image:The sands of mars 1971 sphere.jpg, resized it, re-uploaded in via the correct method, and updated the cover link in The Sands of Mars. Hope that explanation was clear. If not, please let me know what questions you have. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:08, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

If I am ever forced to upload a cover image again, I will come back here and try to understand all these steps. I took a decent 30 minutes trying to read through the documentation and figure out this procedure. I'm just gonna keep linking to amazon covers as long as I can. A question about amazon since I have your attention, is there a particular sub-domain of amazon we are supposed to link to, where we can be sure the cover will stay unchanged? Apart from what you write about a publication still being in print, any other cover I find on Amazon is guaranteed to keep its url? --Spacecow 18:00, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a guarantee for any Amazon cover. Usually they are pretty stable, but some can change. You could try asking at ISFDB:Help desk to see if someone else has seen a pattern. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:48, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I used your proposed method to upload a cover this time, thank you very much - it went a bit smoother. However, you seem to have a size limit (in bytes), which I don't find any documentation for, on the cover as well as the 600px limit. It took me a bunch of trial-and-errors to get the cover uploaded, converting it to different formats. A final question: after using the "Upload cover scan" on a specific publication that was missing said cover and having it successfully been uploaded, do I still need to submit an edit request to have the image attached to the publication in question? --Spacecow 04:28, 4 October 2020 (EDT)
Yes, you still need to edit the publication and add the URL into the book. The upload creates the connection from the image to the publication but not the other way around. Make sure you link to the image and not the wiki page with it :) Annie 06:31, 4 October 2020 (EDT)

I, Robot

To moderator who took upon him/her-self to go through my submission, here's a cover we are supposed to have permission to link to.

Voyage to Venus (Perelandra)

I approved you edit adding the cover art to Voyage to Venus (Perelandra). The cover has only "Voyage to Venus". Does the title page include the "(Perelandra)"? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:24, 4 October 2020 (EDT)

Yes, the title page reads: "Voyage to Venus (Perelandra)" --Spacecow 14:36, 4 October 2020 (EDT)
I could add that part as a note and some other stuff from the copyright page if you want me to. --Spacecow 14:42, 4 October 2020 (EDT)
Please. When the cover and title page differ, it is always good to have a pub note so there is not confusion down the road. We are good with more details also. ;-) -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:03, 4 October 2020 (EDT)

The Best of Frank Herbert 1952-1964

Cover art for this confIrmed as Ray Feibush on the Bruce Pennington Fan Page on Facebook. --Mavmaramis 10:55, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

If you say so. I have no idea myself - nothing in the book --Spacecow 16:26, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

The Grey King

About this one. The second 1979 printing will indeed be the fourth printing. If the two 1979 printings are listed in your book, then it is 4th - in which case, you should clone for it and leave our third printing in place. Annie 16:34, 25 October 2020 (EDT)

Thank you. I'll cancel my edit request and will make a new entry. --Spacecow 08:55, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
I've approved your submission, but it needs some more massaging :) Best to state explicitly that this is a fourth printing. Also, I suspect the +[1] in the Pages field is for an "About the Author" or "Acknowledgements"? If so, the number of pages should simply read 188, as generally speaking these "About the Author" and "Acknowledgements" are not meaningful (there are exceptions of course. Those are recorded as an ESSAY in the Contents section). You are of course still free to make a note about them. See also here and this howto for an explanation on how to calculate and enter page numbers. Regards, MagicUnk 09:55, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
Done, mentioned printing and I hope I solved the page issue. --Spacecow 13:10, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
Perfect! Thanks! MagicUnk 15:42, 26 October 2020 (EDT)

Six Gates from Limbo

Cover artist of this is Gino d'Achille, see Horzel 17:19, 22 January 2021 (EST)

If you say so. That is fine by me. --Spacecow 17:28, 22 January 2021 (EST)

The Star Diaries

Hi! I imported the interior artworks and corrected the page count for the publication mentioned above. If you find time please check the beginning pages for the pieces: they were taken from a different edition that has the same count of x+275 pages. Thanks, Stonecreek 00:22, 31 January 2021 (EST)

Looks good to me. --Spacecow 10:24, 31 January 2021 (EST)

Shakespeare's Planet

Re this - surely the same artwork as on this edition - only different colours and signiature "removed." --Mavmaramis 14:20, 4 February 2021 (EST)

Mission to Universe

Question: for the 1965 Berkley edition of Mission to Universe by Gordon R. Dickson where you are listed as a primary verifier, Heritage Auctions lists the cover artist as Jerry Dodwil. (

Is it ok to add this information and user the Pub notes list Heritage Auctions as the source? aardvark7 15:54, 9 May 2021 (EDT)

For me it's ok. I find nothing in the book that mentions the cover artist. --Spacecow 07:36, 10 May 2021 (EDT)

Gardens of the Moon

Added a couple notes and the LCCN to Gardens of the Moon. John Scifibones 11:13, 10 June 2021 (EDT)

The Healthy Dead

While verifying The Healthy Dead, I added several pub notes and an ext ID, John Scifibones 13:07, 10 June 2021 (EDT)

Galaxy 1963-10

Cover art of this issue is credited to Dember, but the same but differently cut cover art of Galaxie #1, Mai 1964 is clearly signed R McK, that is, Richard McKenna (not the writer). Horzel 11:08, 20 July 2021 (EDT)

The Moon Maid

I have cloned this pub of The Moon Maid as there are two variations differentiated by the publisher address. Your primary verification may be incorrect. The edit and clone were just submitted. Given the backlog, I expect a few days before they are processed. ../Doug H 16:31, 24 August 2021 (EDT)

Splitting some Burroughs publications you have verified

Some existing Burroughs publications you have PV'd have two variants that need to be split. You have verified The Moon Maid and Tarzan and the Lost Empire

Please check this poll to help determine which variant is the existing entry, and which is created. Your participation is appreciated. ../Doug H 23:35, 26 August 2021 (EDT)

There is one PV for you to move: Tarzan and the Lost Empire - Address: 1120 Avenue of the Americas vs. 23 West 47th Street - from the first to the second. Thanks ../Doug H 22:29, 3 September 2021 (EDT)

The Deep Range


I agree with your assessment here but there is at least one active PV on the book besides you so can you check with him (Willem H.) to see what he thinks about this? Thanks! Annie 01:29, 17 October 2021 (EDT)

Done. Checking with Willem. --Spacecow 04:57, 17 October 2021 (EDT)

The Sword of the Lady

Verifying I assume? Helps to mention it in the moderator note so we know you are working off the actual book. :) Annie 07:44, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

Yes, i got it. Added varification. --Spacecow 08:49, 20 October 2021 (EDT)


Are you sure that Swedish capitalizes every word in a title? Also - commonly named essays get the name of the book in parenthesis after their name so we do not end up with 100 essays called Introduction on the same author page. :) I fixed it here. Annie 15:40, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

You are right. Capitalization on every word in Swedish is usually not a thing, but this one does - both on title page, front cover, spline, everywhere.
But you are right. What are the rules here? The translator is probably just Americanized. I'm not saying that Wikipedia is right, but it is listed there in the common Swedish way with only the first letter capitalized: And that would be the common way writing it, whenever you talk about it. --Spacecow 17:57, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
I added cover so you can see how it is written everywhere in the publication. --Spacecow 17:59, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
The parenthesis thing - I understand and at the same time don't. You should be able to display the title it points to in the link if you wanted to. Doing it like you are proposing, whenever a title needs to change, you need to change the title in those links too. But I can do that. Are we talking about all Introduction, Preface, Afterword titles, etc.? --Spacecow 17:02, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
We follow the language rules. For Swedish it is sentence case.
The links are fine but if you have 100 essays called Introduction on a prolific author page, which one do you click on to get to the one you want. Do you try all of them? So commonly named essays in any language get their names disambiguated by adding the book title. Yes - all essays having a title that is common - if they have a separate title, you are fine. But “Introduction” In any language always gets the book name. See the help page for the title field please. Both of those are somewhat covered there. Annie 19:45, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
For example see all those Forewords? With the disambiguation you can click on the one you are looking for. Imagine the list with just naked Foreword titles. And that’s a mild case. And here is the help page - standard titles at the bottom but read the whole thing. :) Annie 19:51, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
I understand how it works now and I understand how you have solved the problem. What I am talking about would require a software update. I will check out that help page again before making any more edits. --Spacecow 03:31, 26 October 2021 (EDT)
As with every software, a lot of things can be done differently if you change the design. Yes - that could have been handled programmatically but that would have made merges very hard to figure out for example - if you are adding Introduction to 3 books, are they the same or not (think novels inside of omnibuses for example). Everything is solvable and that’s how the design went here. :) Annie 08:35, 26 October 2021 (EDT)
I will be updating "De Sista och De Första Människorna" to "De sista och de första människorna", and probably even the Stapledon pseudonym "En av De Sista Människorna" to "En av de sista människorna" (once the link to Stapledon author page is established) according to Swedish language rules. Thanks pointing this out. --Spacecow 05:27, 26 October 2021 (EDT)

En av De Sista Människorna

Hi! Go to the Olaf Stapledon[2] page get the author # hint 81 and return to the "En av De Sista Människorna" authors page use "Make/Remove Alternate Name", the plug in # into "Pareent Record#" this will create the link. I'll approve the submission. Note the page will be blank this is the way it will look after I variant the title. After the names are linked it will show the alternate names. I'll check back to see how thing work out. Thanks21:37, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

Done. I hope. --Spacecow 05:23, 26 October 2021 (EDT)
Approved and its correct. thanks.Kraang 08:28, 26 October 2021 (EDT)

In Search of Wonder

About In Search of Wonder: this backs you up. $7.00 is widely out of range for a tp by this publisher at this time - or even a few years later. I added a note explaining when and why the price was changed so it is clear that the earlier PVs did not verify the price. Feel free to rewrite the note I put in there :) Annie 05:57, 12 November 2021 (EST)

I'm adding the cover with the price tag of $2.75 as we speak. The current cover doesn't display the pricetag. --Spacecow 05:59, 12 November 2021 (EST)
Which is fine :) The note still needs to be there :) Annie 06:00, 12 November 2021 (EST)

Enemies of the System: A Tale of Homo Uniformis ?

Hi, in the process of transforming this to NOVELLA / CHAPBOOK (see the Community Portal) I ran across the OCLC entry for this, which has Enemies of the System: A Tale of Homo Uniformis. The cover has just Brian Aldiss, whereas we (and OCLC) have Brian W. Aldiss, so I assume the W. is part of the author's name on the title page. Are you able to check your copy? Thanks, Stonecreek 12:43, 5 December 2021 (EST)

Title page says Brian Aldiss --Spacecow 08:41, 6 December 2021 (EST)
Thanks! But is the supposed subtitle 'A Tale of Homo Uniformis' also there? Stonecreek 13:07, 6 December 2021 (EST)
picture: [3] --Spacecow 20:50, 6 December 2021 (EST)

Stirling Change novels

I was going to PV several of the S. M. Stirling novels and noticed that some adjustments need to be made. I'll also be adding a bunch of notes, the LCCN, and the WorldCat ID to them.

The Sword of the Lady has the title for the map on page [vii] missing. Mind if I add it and change the page count to vii+484?

The High King of Montival has the title for the map on page [ix] missing. Mind if I add it and change the page count to ix+481?

The Tears of the Sun has the title for the map on page [ix] missing. Mind if I add it and change the page count to ix+530?

Thanks! Phil 08:39, 22 January 2022 (EST)

Seems like reasonable edits. --Spacecow 08:55, 22 January 2022 (EST)
Thanks. The changes have been submitted. Phil 13:18, 22 January 2022 (EST)

Darkness & Light

I'm going to replace the Amazon cover image for our mutually verified copy of Darkness & Light. However, I also noticed that we have the incorrect title as "Darkness and Light" and that the title page uses the ampersand. I'll be correcting that as well. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 17:51, 3 February 2022 (EST)

Actually I'll hold off on the title change a bit. I just noticed that you have also verified the 1989 printing. I see that the cover has the ampersand. Could you check the title page and let me know whether it is also "Darkness & Light"? It will be easier to change them both instead of creating a variant title. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 17:55, 3 February 2022 (EST)
Both Have "Darkness & Light" (with ampersand) on front cover as well as title page. --Spacecow 09:01, 5 February 2022 (EST)

Time of the Twins

I added cover art credit to the publication record Time of the Twins - you added the credit in the notes Susan O'Fearna 23:52, 4 February 2022 (EST)

nice --Spacecow 09:06, 5 February 2022 (EST)

John Brunner / The Squares of the City

I am editing / PVing The Squares of the City and will import the two essays at the back of the book and add notes. Teallach 11:22, 13 February 2022 (EST)

Author's Notes & Pieces? --Spacecow 12:04, 13 February 2022 (EST)
That's right. Teallach 16:51, 13 February 2022 (EST)
Nice --Spacecow 02:37, 14 February 2022 (EST)

John Brunner / The Jagged Orbit

I am editing / PVing The Jagged Orbit and will add publication month and cover artist. Teallach 13:45, 14 February 2022 (EST)

I cannot find any of them in the book. --Spacecow 13:53, 14 February 2022 (EST)
I am adding this note: Publication month and cover artist from John Brunner: Shockwave Writer Teallach 15:49, 14 February 2022 (EST)
I don't own that book. I cannot help you there. --Spacecow 19:28, 14 February 2022 (EST)

Beyond Eden

Hi Spacecow -

You added a question in your edit for Beyond Eden. I don't think you need to upload that image unless you think it is likely to disappear from its site. I would recommend that you add the URL to the Web Page field for the publications relying on that note for their date. I'll approve your existing edit shortly. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:51, 16 February 2022 (EST)

Would I be uploading the pic to isfdb? using the "Upload new cover scan" functionality for the specific publication in question? --Spacecow 09:56, 16 February 2022 (EST)
I'd only recommend that if you think the URL is likely to be unstable. Otherwise, you can just add the URL to the Web Page field in the publication record. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 10:01, 16 February 2022 (EST)
Yes, the site I used is an anonymous upload site for temporary use, only. --Spacecow 10:04, 16 February 2022 (EST)
Sure. Then go ahead and upload it. You'll want to change the title so as not to overwrite the cover image (maybe append "_review_note"). You can then place the image of the note in the webpage field. Let me know if you run into any issues. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 10:10, 16 February 2022 (EST)
I'll go ahead and do that now, right away, on the pb edition. If you are ok with that change, I can redo my edit submission on the hc edition too before you approve the current one without link to the review copy. --Spacecow 10:18, 16 February 2022 (EST)
Looks good. Approved. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 10:31, 16 February 2022 (EST)
Added for hc too. --Spacecow 10:35, 16 February 2022 (EST)

Exiles at the Well of Souls

For Exiles at the Well of Souls, do you mind if I change the page count to xii+337, add title "About Time ..." on pg [xii], and import missing titles:
Detail of Northern Hemisphere (map) (Exiles at the Well of Souls) on pg ix
Section of Southern Hemisphere (map) (Exiles at the Well of Souls) on pg x
Appendix: Races Referred to in Exiles at the Well of Souls on pg 331
About the Author (Exiles at the Well of Souls) on pg 337
Thanks! Phil 07:51, 15 March 2022 (EDT)

Quest for the Well of Souls

For Quest for the Well of Souls, would you mind if I change the page count to xii+302+[1], add title "About the Author (Quest for the Well of Souls) on page [303], and import the following missing titles?
The Wars of the Well, Part II (Quest for the Well of Souls) on pg ix
Section of Southern Hemisphere (map) (Quest for the Well of Souls) on pg x
Detail of Northern Hemisphere (map) (Quest for the Well of Souls) on pg xii
Appendix I: Races of the Southern Hemisphere (Quest for the Well of Souls) on pg 293
Appendix II: Races of the Northern Hemisphere (Quest for the Well of Souls) on pg 300
Thanks! Phil 08:13, 15 March 2022 (EDT)

The Return of Nathan Brazil

For The Return of Nathan Brazil, do you mind if I change the page count to ix+289+[2], add title "About the Author (The Return of Nathan Brazil)" on page [291], and add missing title:
Section of Southern Hemisphere (map) (The Return of Nathan Brazil) on page viii
Thanks! Phil 08:45, 18 March 2022 (EDT)

Twilight at the Well of Souls

For Twilight at the Well of Souls: The Legacy of Nathan Brazil, do you mind if I change the page count to x+304+[1] and import missing title:
Section of Southern Hemisphere (map) (The Return of Nathan Brazil) on page viii
Thanks! Phil 08:54, 18 March 2022 (EDT)

Seems fine, all your edits. Great that you are taking the time :thumbsup:
I noticed that the maps seems to be the same for some books, and somewhat evolved in later.
"About the author" seems to be exactly the same in all your edits.
Would it be in place to set one of them as parent and the other as variant? at some point in time.
I am not really sure the right way to go about it. --Spacecow 16:22, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
The maps can vary by book and have the same title which is why they are differentiated by the addition of the publication title in parentheses. The same is true for the essays including "About the Author". As such, it's my understanding that they aren't eligible to be made into variants. Phil 22:26, 19 March 2022 (EDT)

Everything But Love

Added a cover image for your verified Everything But Love. PeteYoung 12:57, 22 March 2022 (EDT)

Cool. What is that colourful icon in the top right corner? --Spacecow 13:13, 23 March 2022 (EDT)
Looks like price sticker to me. An attempt was made to half-heartedly remove it. --Mavmaramis 11:36, 30 April 2022 (EDT)
Uploaded stickerless cover from; IMG converted to JPG. --Username 11:50, 30 April 2022 (EDT)

Firstborn and The Qualinesti

For Firstborn, do you mind if I change the page count to [8]+305 and add the map on page [6]?

For The Qualinesti, do you mind if I change the page count to [6]+310 and add the map on page [6]?
Thanks! I'll PV both of them. Phil 10:03, 27 March 2022 (EDT)

Seems fine :) --Spacecow 10:28, 27 March 2022 (EDT)

A Private Cosmos / The Gates of Creation

Cover art for this and this is Peter Goodfellow both credited from this website. --Mavmaramis 15:04, 5 April 2022 (EDT)

alright --Spacecow 15:50, 5 April 2022 (EDT)

Pauline Baynes illustrations

Hi. I've put these two submissions on hold Prince Caspian[4],The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe[5] as they should be merged, not made variant. The author, titles and language are the same, minor differences in the cover design are not variated.Kraang 16:32, 25 April 2022 (EDT)

Thanks for explaining. I didn't realize that. I did something similar with Swedish Otherland titles, f.ex. here: . Those should be variants, because of title and language being different? Got it. --Spacecow 19:08, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
All approved & correct :)Kraang 20:42, 25 April 2022 (EDT)

Star Trek 10

Added link to image to your verified pub here. ../Doug H 22:28, 7 May 2022 (EDT)

Great. That's the one I have. --Spacecow 08:36, 9 May 2022 (EDT)

Conklin's Science Fiction Oddities

The Notes section to Oddities says "Abridged from the US edition, contains 1/2 the stories" but it only contains 8/19 of the stories and, while Oddities, Second Series doesn't have a primary verifier on it, the note says "Contains the rest of the stories from the '66 US edition" but there are only 10 stories listed. If the story lists are correct, then H. F. Ellis' "Space-Crime Continuum" is omitted in the split volumes. --J-Sun 20:39, 18 May 2022 (EDT)

Good catch. I checked my edition and it actually does contain Space-Crime Continuum by H.F. Ellis, on page 122. I can submit that edit. Also, my edition is missing dust jacket (and I don't know if it initially had one), but I could include some notes about its red boards and silver embossed printing, if that would help anyone. --Spacecow 13:49, 19 May 2022 (EDT)

The Wind's Twelve Quarters

For The Wind's Twelve Quarters, would you mind if I change the page count to [8]+277+[1], add a note "• The "Foreword" on page [7] is incorrectly shown as being on page "ix" in the ToC.", and change the page number for the "Foreword" to [7]? Thanks! Phil 08:47, 24 May 2022 (EDT)

That works for me. But why add [8] pages if you only gonna use the last 2? Wouldn't [2]+277+[1] make more sense, with Foreword on page [1]? Thanks Phil --Spacecow 12:49, 24 May 2022 (EDT)
When adding the count of unnumbered pages at the front of a book, you always start from the very first unnumbered page after the cover and count until you reach page 1 (or the page that would be numbered page 1 if that page doesn't have a number printed on it). The Help text isn't very clear on this point. Phil 22:07, 24 May 2022 (EDT)
Thanks. That makes sense. --Spacecow 00:45, 25 May 2022 (EDT)


Picked up a copy of this. Notes on record state "The price zone on back cover seems to have been overprinted." not entirely sure what this means. On my copy thiese are printed on a thin (like 1") gold band at bottom of rear cover. I don't believe for a moment the cover artist is Chris Achilleos - looks nothing like his 1970s style at all - no visible signiature either. I'm not going to remove any notes, merely edit to reflect the publication I have in my hand. --Mavmaramis 12:39, 14 June 2022 (EDT)

I would assume the "overprinting" refers to the same gold strip you mention. I think your comment made it clearer what we are talking of. I have no opinion about the cover artist - not really familiar with Chris Achilleos. --Spacecow 18:26, 16 June 2022 (EDT)

The Moon Men

According to this post on The British Edgar Rice Burroughs Society facebook page cover art for this is Dave Pether. --Mavmaramis 13:43, 6 July 2022 (EDT)

The White Mountains / Pool of Firew

I've been sent a photo of the hardback edition of this. Signed Roger Hane left of the leg of the left hand figure. This is also signed Roger Hane along ground under baloon basket. --Mavmaramis 14:20, 13 July 2022 (EDT)

I had a look at my editions again, and I cannot find any trace of a signature. However, I own a copy the The Guardians, by Christoper
which share a very similar style of the cover. That one is clearly signed Roger Hane. --Spacecow 09:50, 14 July 2022 (EDT)

Elric of Melniboné

For Elric of Melniboné, would you mind if I add the map on page 8 and notes for the edition, printing, cover, map, and other currencies? Thanks! Phil 08:35, 20 July 2022 (EDT)

Absolutely not :). Here's a sanity check:
  • map on 8-9
  • First published by [over] Hutchinson & Co (publishers) Ltd 1972 [over] Arrow edition 1973
  • Australia $1.20, New Zealand $1.20, Malta 40c, Canada $1.35
  • --Spacecow 15:30, 20 July 2022 (EDT)
    (And how did you know I was sitting and reading Elric right at this very moment?!)

    The Sundering Flood

    For The Sundering Flood, would you mind if I change the page count to xv+238 and add the uncredited map on page [xv]? The current Roman numeral page count is incorrect since the last printed page number is xiii not xii. I'll also add cover artist, map artist, and ISBN/SBN notes. Thanks! Phil 07:05, 23 July 2022 (EDT)

    No, please do :). And your observation of map being page xv seems correct. --Spacecow 09:48, 23 July 2022 (EDT)


    Cover art for this is Peter Tybus. Same image as Les goulags mous --Mavmaramis 11:48, 26 July 2022 (EDT)

    Good find. --Spacecow 15:54, 26 July 2022 (EDT)

    n Stories, and Other Essays in Literature

    Regarding this submission: Why are you trying to change the container title? The container title should match the publication. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:19, 11 August 2022 (EDT)

    By mistake, I set my publication to point at:
    but it should be pointing at:
    The title of the book is "Of This and Other Worlds", not "On Stories, and Other Essays in Literature"
    You can see a cover scan here:
    Thx --Spacecow 06:57, 12 August 2022 (EDT)
    The publication also had to be edited to change the publication title. I accepted your edit, imported the new record, & edited the publication title. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:51, 12 August 2022 (EDT):
    Thank you.
    Just so I know for next time, I need to make 3 separate edits to make this work?
    And you would like to have them all 3 at once?
    1) Remove old title
    2) Add new title
    3) Edit title of publication --Spacecow 14:35, 13 August 2022 (EDT)
    Correct. From order, it is probably best to do 3, 2, 1. That makes it clearer to the approver. You should be able to submit all three edits in parallel, but not necessary. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:57, 14 August 2022 (EDT)

    Edmund Cooper / Deadly Image

    Posted on the talk pages of: Willem H, GlennMcG, Spacecow
    I will be editing and PVing Deadly Image and propose to:
    1) update date to 1958-05-00, add pub note stating source which is the 1969 Ballantine second printing and update date on title and coverart records
    2) add pub note advising that the 1958 UK Hutchinson hc states that it is preceded by this edition
    3) delete the Clute/Nichols (sic) reference in accordance with my post: 'Clute/Nicholls and "First Edition"' on the Moderators' Noticeboard dated 3 April 2022 (now archived)
    Are you ok with all this? Teallach 18:09, 15 August 2022 (EDT)

    1) and 2) seems fine to me.
    3) no comment - I don't know what that is about --Spacecow 18:32, 15 August 2022 (EDT)

    Edmund Cooper / Tomorrow's Gift

    Posted on the talk pages of: Kraang, Willem H, Dirk P Broer, GlennMcG, Spacecow
    I will be editing and PVing Tomorrow's Gift
    1) the pub record has a contents entry "Brain Child". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 63 is "The Brain Child"
    2) the pub record has a contents entry "M81-Ursa Major". This matches the TOC but the title of the story on page 95 is "M81: Ursa Major"
    I will make the appropriate corrections and add pub notes regarding the discrepancies with the TOC Teallach 17:58, 16 August 2022 (EDT)

    1) seems right
    2) even "M 81" with a space, if you wanna be even more picky --Spacecow 18:52, 16 August 2022 (EDT)
    Thanks for pointing out the space. I did notice it originally but it seemed too minor to merit another variant. However, after seeing your comment, I checked this help page and under "Symbols and punctuation" it does say "Hyphens and spaces make different titles". So another variant it will be. Oh, by the way, yes, I am extremely picky. In fact, "Picky" is my middle name. :-) Teallach 17:33, 17 August 2022 (EDT)
    I want you to wear "picky" as a badge of honour :) --Spacecow 17:36, 17 August 2022 (EDT)


    Added notes to seedling.Jim 18:24, 20 August 2022 (EDT)

    Ok, but I cannot see them. --Spacecow 04:28, 21 August 2022 (EDT)

    The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, February 1986

    The cover art of this, the ascribed to G. P. Lendino, a one hit wonder, is claimed by James Gurney in a "Works by" list in Imaginative Realism: How to Paint What Doesn't Exist. The style is very similar, so I'll make GP Lendino a pseudonym of James Gurney. Horzel 09:03, 27 August 2022 (EDT)

    Sure --Spacecow 15:24, 27 August 2022 (EDT)

    Without Sorcery

    Added a note to your PVd Without Sorcery.Jim 18:48, 27 August 2022 (EDT)

    What's the note? --Spacecow 06:54, 28 August 2022 (EDT)


    Concerning your submission: is it really pb-sized? Most of the other Delta Science Fiction publications are tp. pd is only used for anything smaller than 18x11 cm, everything that's larger has to be tp. I would be inclined to update to tp, unless you have additional evidence for the size? MagicUnk 06:18, 1 September 2022 (EDT)

    I thought the limit was 19cm. The publication is 18.5cm. --Spacecow 09:42, 1 September 2022 (EDT)
    Thanks! Updated to tp. MagicUnk 14:02, 1 September 2022 (EDT)


    A couple comments regarding your edits to Ljussvärden.

    • I approved this one, however, you only corrected the publication title. The title record also needed to be corrected, I did that for you. When you first create a pub, the title record automatically duplicates the publication record. After creation, the two records are separate, therefore, if you change one, you also need to change the other.
    • I had to reject this one. Your moderator comment was spot on, you needed to create a Swedish cover art record then variant it as you did with the publication title record. Since it is a two-step process, and the queue is long; I went ahead and did it for you.
    • You should transliterate 'Ljussvärden' because of the letter 'ä'. It needs to be changed in all three title records.

    Ask if you have any questions, John Scifibones 11:08, 15 September 2022 (EDT)

    Thanks John, for taking the time to write all this. I'm starting to understand how covers work. I think I've seen some indications that Interior art works the same. I have a Swedish Tigana entry of Guy Gavriel Kay with some interior art (maps) from Sue Reynolds, and I was thinking of reusing (importing) one of those entries into my Swedish publication.
    I see now that the Swedish maps have some translations done, so I understand I need to create its own entry. However, let's assume the Swedish map would have been exactly the same as the English original — I still would have had to create its own entry, since the value in the language field is different. The same as for covers. --Spacecow (talk) 18:34, 15 September 2022 (EDT)

    Cover artists of Delta Science Fiction

    I've come across 'Delta Science Fiction' and am able to complete some of the missing cover artists. I will do so and enrich the notes accordingly if you don't mind. Best, John - JLochhas (talk) 04:46, 3 October 2022 (EDT)

    Sounds great! --Spacecow (talk) 11:32, 3 October 2022 (EDT)

    A. E. van Vogt / The World of Null-A

    I am editing and PVing The World of Null-A and have added notes. Teallach (talk) 17:50, 11 October 2022 (EDT)

    Bill, the Galactic Hero

    The other price for this is for New Zealand not Austraila. --Mavmaramis (talk) 05:49, 15 October 2022 (EDT)

    You are correct --Spacecow (talk) 03:25, 17 October 2022 (EDT)

    Two-Timers; You PV in 2021, copy uploaded in June of 2022, I added a link (pending), prices on back covered by sticker, I found 1 copy on eBay,, you may want to add the other prices in Notes (and I think the rule here is the old UK price should be entered in the field and the decimal price entered in Notes for 1971 and earlier publications, as I've been told more than once). --Username (talk) 11:42, 26 October 2022 (EDT)

    Philip K. Dick / Clans of the Alphane Moon

    Posted on the talk pages of active PVs.
    I am editing and PVing Clans of the Alphane Moon and propose to change the date from 1964-00-00 to 1964-11-00 and add a pub note stating the source: Galactic Central Bibliography. I will also add the month to the associated records (title and coverart). I will be adding the month to several other PKD books in the near future. Teallach (talk) 19:24, 31 October 2022 (EDT)

    Philip K. Dick / Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said

    I am editing and PVing Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said and will add notes and import the existing record for the interior art on page 2. Teallach (talk) 13:46, 6 November 2022 (EST)

    Philip K. Dick / A Scanner Darkly

    I am editing and PVing A Scanner Darkly. The overseas prices on my copy are: "Canada $2.95 Australia $3.25 New Zealand $2.95" which differs from what the pub record states. What does it say on your copy? Thanks. Teallach (talk) 16:44, 6 November 2022 (EST)

    One says "U.K. 95p Rep of Ireland £1.04 1/2 [over] Australia $3.25 New Zealand $2.95", another says "U.K. 95p Canada $2.95 [over] Australia $3.25 New Zealand $2.95" --Spacecow (talk) 13:35, 8 November 2022 (EST)
    That is weird. So there are two versions with different overseas prices. Ok, I will clone the existing record to create a new version with the Canada price and add a note clarifying the difference. Once that's done I will add a corresponding note to the original record. Thanks for your help with this. Teallach (talk) 13:20, 9 November 2022 (EST)
    Yes, I can find no other difference than the price on the back cover. --Spacecow (talk) 20:32, 12 November 2022 (EST)

    Philip K. Dick / The Golden Man

    I am editing and PVing The Golden Man and will 1) replace unstable Amazon image with scan from my copy 2) correct page count notation to conform with ISFDb standards (xxviii+336+[1]) 3) add pub notes 4) correct the OCLC ID from 59194153 to 1152610224 5) Create a coverart record (Chris Moore). Teallach (talk) 14:05, 7 November 2022 (EST)

    Farmer in the Sky

    Cover artist for this is Edward Mortelmans. Credited in Rayguns & Rocketships. --Mavmaramis (talk) 12:15, 29 November 2022 (EST)

    Once Upon a Galaxy; Let me know if there's any differences with your PV copy; it's been 4 days since I've had an edit approved (I've got 800+ on my list) so who knows when it'll be approved. If there's any problem I can always cancel it and re-submit. EDIT:; I also added link to the other edition, by a mysterious PV named MagicKey who hasn't left a message on their page since 2016, and cleaned up a couple of mistakes, but I noticed there are a couple of differences with your PV. The title is entered with different punctuation and other PV added the photo pages in brackets to their edition's page count; I'm not sure who's correct so you may want to decide about those things and fix if needed. --Username (talk) 22:04, 3 December 2022 (EST)

    The Silver Chair Illustrations

    Hi Spacecow

    I'm holding this edit that would add the Pauline Baynes illustrations to your verified publication of The Silver Chair. Do you have any objections if I approve this edit? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:07, 5 January 2023 (EST)

    Looks good to me. She is even mentioned as illustrator on the title page. --Spacecow (talk) 07:05, 7 January 2023 (EST)

    Lukyanenko - The Twilight Watch

    Hi, I have the 1st printing of this. Amazon lists the pub date as 2008-06-05. Maybe your 3rd printing should be 0000-00-00? Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 08:16, 7 January 2023 (EST)

    Also, replacing the Amazon image. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 15:01, 18 January 2023 (EST)
    Sorry, should have told you it was there - not done it myself :( Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 16:11, 18 January 2023 (EST)
    The coverart is the work of 2 artists - I've changed the art credits to include both. Kev.

    Stanley (G.) Weinbaum / A Martian Odyssey

    I am editing and PVing A Martian Odyssey.
    Author's name on title page is "Stanley Weinbaum" not "Stanley G. Weinbaum" so this needs to be changed and then varianted to "Stanley G. Weinbaum"
    Pub note: "The artist is not credited" is incorrect. "Cover painting by Robert Schulz" stated on unnumbered page 1. This means the coverart record needs to be changed to "Robert Schulz" and then varianted to "Robert E. Schulz"
    Can you please check that your copy is the same as mine. If so, I will make the changes and add lots of appropriate pub notes. I would like to change the format of the notes to html unnumbered list as it will make it much easier to layout the notes more clearly. Let me know if you have any objection to this. Teallach (talk) 14:08, 12 January 2023 (EST)

    Correct. "Stanley Weinbaum" on title page and "Cover painting by Robert Schulz" on page 1. --Spacecow (talk) 06:51, 14 January 2023 (EST)

    PKD - We Can Remember It for You Wholesale

    Hi, I'm changing the Introduction titling here to state it as appears above the essay. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 18:00, 21 January 2023 (EST)

    PKD - Martian Time-Slip

    Hi, I'm entering an earlier £7.99-priced printing of this pub and so have changed the date (to unknown, 0000-00-00) and notes as this pub is no longer a 1st printing. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 21:12, 22 January 2023 (EST)

    Asimov - Foundation

    Hi, I'm adding notes to our PVs here. If you find any differences with your copy, please let me know. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 13:58, 6 February 2023 (EST)

    Seems fine. --Spacecow (talk) 04:00, 13 February 2023 (EST)
    That's good, Thanks for checking. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 07:36, 13 February 2023 (EST)

    The Lands of Ice and Fire

    I put some details to Your pv pub here. If You could approve them and change if necessary. Thank You. --Zapp (talk) 11:27, 17 February 2023 (EST)

    Asimov & Silverberg - Nightfall

    Hi, I'm adding notes and the missing essay to the 1991 printing. Please let me know if there's anything there that doesn't agree with your copy. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 23:29, 18 February 2023 (EST)

    Merril - 6th Annual Edition: the Year's Best S-F: re Anthony Boucher's essay

    Hi, you've PV'd this 1962 printing, so I'm letting you know that PVs with pubs covering the three publishers here have confirmed that the title for Boucher's essay, your page 378, is S-F Books: 1960 with a colon, not a dash. Accordingly I'm retitling/ merging them to that and disposing of title S-F Books - 1960 as redundant. There are no variants. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 20:49, 21 February 2023 (EST)

    Title is "S-F Books: 1960" in my edition --Spacecow (talk) 04:40, 22 February 2023 (EST)
    Thanks for confirming yours, that makes it unanimous. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 16:12, 22 February 2023 (EST)

    Ender's Game

    Regarding your PV, does the cover shown there match your copy? I have a 16th printing where the cover looks like this. Note "author's definitive version" and the lack of any pricing or identifying numbers. If I need to update the entry, I'll also add the LCCN and Canadian price. Thanks! Fjh (talk) 22:33, 24 February 2023 (EST)

    No, mine's 30th. Probably didn't feel like creating a new one at the time, but I will now since you pointed it out.
    I will unverify and leave it to you to do what you want with the 16th printing --Spacecow (talk) 06:51, 25 February 2023 (EST)

    Asimov - Foundation and Earth

    Hi, I'm trying to sort out the Grafton 1987 printings of this title. Could you confirm stated details on the copyright page for this pub, namely:

    • "Published by Grafton Books 1987"
    • "First published in Great Britain by Grafton Books 1986"
    • that there is no line which starts "Reprinted..."

    Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 00:57, 13 March 2023 (EDT)

    • "Published by Grafton Books 1987"
    • "First published in Great Britain by [over] Grafton Books 1986"
    • there is no line indicating reprint
    --Spacecow (talk) 09:42, 13 March 2023 (EDT)
    Thanks for clarifying that. It's clear now that you have the 1st printing of the 1987 edition. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 10:04, 13 March 2023 (EDT)
    Could you have a look at this thread. As I've said there, the pub that you've PV'd may be a duplicate that was added later, in 2017. What do you think? Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 12:06, 25 March 2023 (EDT)
    As far as I understood it,
    * This is the first print
    * First reprint
    * Second reprint
    But yes, it seems like Dirk P Broer has the same edition as me.
    --Spacecow (talk) 17:28, 25 March 2023 (EDT)
    Will you be taking any action to remedy this? I'm asking the same question of Dirk_P_Broer. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 17:28, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
    What did we agree upon? I thought there was a 1st print, a 1st reprint and a 2nd reprint, all in the year 1987. --Spacecow (talk) 14:17, 1 April 2023 (EDT)
    The remarks on the copyright page in my edition, [clearified]:
    "Published [in paperback edition] by Grafton Books 1987"
    "First published in Great Britain [in hardcover] by Grafton Books 1986" No mentioning of reprint for 1987.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 19:26, 3 April 2023 (EDT)

    (unindent) This is what we have in the db at present, as far as I can tell, to clarify the three 1987 printings.

    • 1986 hardcover edition PR# 14449.
    • 1987 1st paperback edition/printing PR# 359517 and PR# 630597. This is a paperback reprint of the 1986 hardcover.
    • 1987 2nd paperback printing. NOT IN DB. The 1st of the two reprints of the 1987 paperback edition.
    • 1987 3rd paperback printing PR# 14447. The 2nd of the two reprints of the 1987 paperback edition.
    • 1989 4th paperback printing PR# 940278.

    Your cover image is a link to the 3rd printing where the overseas prices are NZ $14.95, Australia $9.95. Are your prices the same? (neither of the two 1st printings show these prices) May I suggest that whichever of yours or Dirk's records are retained, assuming you both agree they're the same, the notes contain the copyright page statement(s):

    • "Published by Grafton Books 1987"
    • "First published in Great Britain by [over] Grafton Books 1986"
    • and include the overseas pricing.

    These details will help if the 2nd printing ever shows up. I hope this helps. Kev. BanjoKev (talk) 12:57, 4 April 2023 (EDT)

    The Best of John Collier

    Hiya, Spacecow! For the Pocket Books edition of The Best of John Collier, the cover is signed "Soyka" in the corner (as can be seen in a closeup here). Would you make Ed Soyka the cover artist? (Also, would you mind if I added a larger cover image? Or you could. There are several online, at Bookscans, Amazon, &c). Thanks! —Rosab618 (talk) 02:04, 13 March 2023 (EDT)

    Cover artist added. I also found him mentioned on the copy right page. Great of you, pointing that out. --Spacecow (talk) 18:05, 13 March 2023 (EDT)
    Thank you! —Rosab618 (talk) 18:42, 13 March 2023 (EDT)

    Delany - Babel-17

    Hi, I'm submitting an edit for this 6th printing; expanding the notes, adding publisher and replacing the linked image with one specific to this pub. Btw, I'm also submitting a 1st printing of this edition which will fill in the full date for the Introduction. Let me know if you see anything wrong. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 01:49, 29 March 2023 (EDT)

    Fred Hoyle / October the First Is Too Late

    I am editing and PVing October the First Is Too Late. The cover of my copy does not match the current pub record image. The artwork is the same but my copy has the blurb "Author of 'The Black Cloud'" underneath the author's name and above the title. Can you please check your copy and advise. Teallach (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2023 (EDT)

    You are correct. Mine has the same "Author of [over] 'The Black Cloud'". Good catch. --Spacecow (talk) 15:48, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
    I have replaced cover image with scan from my copy, added pub month and expanded pub notes. My submission is here. Thanks for checking your copy. Teallach (talk) 09:49, 1 April 2023 (EDT)
    Looks great. You got one with a review note? I love those!! --Spacecow (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2023 (EDT)

    Behold the Man

    Should your verified pub be part of the Michael Moorcock Collection? Is it stated anywhere in the publication? This edition matches all the covers for that series, so I suspect it should be in there. What do you think? PeteYoung (talk) 07:45, 31 March 2023 (EDT)

    I believe you might be right. Mine has stated on the back cover "The Michael Moorcock Collection" in upper case, and visually, as you say, they look to be part of the same publication series. However, this is the only copy I have from the series, so I cannot make any comparisons myself. --Spacecow (talk) 14:13, 1 April 2023 (EDT)
    I'd say if it states "The Michael Moorcock Collection" anywhere in the pub, that's good enough. I'll add it, and thanks. PeteYoung (talk) 10:54, 2 April 2023 (EDT)
    PS. It'd be great if you could add the page numbers for the Introduction and novel, so the intro appears before the novel. Thanks. PeteYoung (talk) 10:57, 2 April 2023 (EDT)
    Absolutely. There are actually two introductions and the layout for the book looks suspiciously the same as for this one:
    In that case I'd say the current section "Introduction (Behold the Man)" is a duplicate, but since I don't own any other copy of this collection, I'd would need your help me identify these two sections:
    • "Introduction to [over] The Michael Moorcock Collection [over] John Clute [over] HE IS NOW over 70, enough time for most careers to start and end in, ... They have been fixed for reading. It is time to enter the multiverse and see the world. [over] September 2012"
    • "Introduction to [over] The Michael Moorcock Collection [over] Michael Moorcock [over] BY 1964, AFTER I had been editing NEW WORLDS for some months and had published several science fiction and fantasy novels, including Stormbringer ... and Marcus Gipps for all the considerable hard work they have done to make this edition what it is [over] Michael Moorcock."
    • I suspect them to be: and, respectively.
      Thanks. --Spacecow (talk) 04:18, 7 April 2023 (EDT)

      Det svarta hålet

      I added a cover image for Your pv pub here. Can You confirm? --Zapp (talk) 16:35, 12 April 2023 (EDT)

      Perfect. Thanks :) --Spacecow (talk) 16:40, 12 April 2023 (EDT)

      Yeffee Kinball / Yeffe Kimball

      Hello! Would you be able to take a look onto p. 84 of Omni, September 1979, if the interior artwork is indeed credited to Yeffee Kinball (and not to Yeffe Kimball)? It might be a typo on the part of the magazine or on the part of the initial editor for ISFDB (because Yeffe Kimball is / was a renowned artist). Thanks, Christian Stonecreek (talk) 15:07, 5 May 2023 (EDT)

      Hi Stonecreek. It's actually a combination of the two. This is the reference: "Moonscape, Yeffee Kimball's ethereal moon." I don't know the artist you mention, but I took a fast look and, without being any kind of expert, I think I can see her style in the image. So it might still be her. Adding a link to the image so you can make a judgement yourself: HERE Hope that helps.--Spacecow (talk) 16:15, 5 May 2023 (EDT)
      Thanks for looking up the issue and supplying the link! With the unique name(s) I had no doubt that the artist names were for one and the same person: it was just the crediting in 'Omni' I had a doubt with. I'll change the credit to Yeffee Kimball, and link the artist to the Wikipedia entry (where a link to a painting of Saturn is supplied that totally fits the style with your supplied link). Thanks, Christian

      Strugatsky - Hard to Be a God

      Adding publisher to your 1st printing PV here [edit] + cover image. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 14:21, 19 May 2023 (EDT)

      Strugatsky - Roadside Picnic

      Hello Spacecow, could you please check the pagination in your 3rd printing? I'm submitting a later printing and the titles are: Forward - page v; Novel - page 1; Afterword - page 195. Also, I have the Pages as ix+209 and the imprint/publisher as Gollancz / Orion. If yours agree, and it's ok with you, I can make the edit. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 17:15, 19 May 2023 (EDT)

      Mine's actually the 11th printing as well, so I just swapped over to yours. --Spacecow (talk) 08:39, 24 May 2023 (EDT)

      Certain Symmetry

      I moved the notes you added into the moderator notes to the proper notes here. Feel free to edit them further :) Annie (talk) 20:01, 30 May 2023 (EDT)

      Sure. I wasn't certain they were worthy as notes, just wanted to provide some context for my suggested changes. --Spacecow (talk) 08:36, 31 May 2023 (EDT)
      Things from inside a book are always a good thing to be added to the actual notes - especially dates and author credits. That way someone cannot change them later because they cannot see the source of a date or name. :) Annie (talk) 12:41, 31 May 2023 (EDT)

      PKD - Minority report

      Hi, we're both PVs for this pub and I'm letting you know that I'm replacing the unstable Amazon image and adding a note about cover text font changes from an earlier printing. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 21:42, 11 June 2023 (EDT)

      Behold the Man (again)

      Re. Moorcock's Behold the Man, the Introduction by John Clute is so titled that it is common to the rest of the Michael Moorcock Collection, and is already in the database here, so I suggest we delete the current "Introduction (Behold the Man)" and import this title instead. I've also added a Note that this edition is "Edited by John Davey" as the title page states. Thanks. PeteYoung (talk) 10:52, 13 June 2023 (EDT)

      Yes. That sounds fair. I only have this one from the collection, so I cannot say it is the exact same, but it looks like it could be. I has the title "Introduction to the Michael Moorcook Collection". --Spacecow (talk) 10:25, 13 October 2023 (EDT)

      Dark Dominion cover

      Hi, I've added the full wraparound cover for David Duncan's Dark Dominion, to illustrate that the cover of Arthur C. Clarke's The Challenge of the Spaceship is a variant, something that was not evident before. Thanks. PeteYoung (talk) 03:37, 23 June 2023 (EDT)

      Very cool! --Spacecow (talk) 03:02, 26 June 2023 (EDT)

      Zelazny / Wilhelm - He Who Shapes / The Infinity Box

      Hi, I'm adding Reginald3 ID# to your PV here. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 18:43, 3 July 2023 (EDT)

      To the Sun? / Off on a Comet!

      Greetings, The reason for the error message was because you needed to convert the 9 digit SBN to a 10 digit ISBN. To convert, add a leading 0. I took care of this one for you. John Scifibones 13:02, 9 July 2023 (EDT)

      Thanks. --Spacecow (talk) 10:26, 13 October 2023 (EDT)

      Bester - The Demolished Man

      Hi, I'm letting you know I'm adding the publisher Orion to our PVs here. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 17:14, 18 July 2023 (EDT)

      Also to these pubs; The War of the Worlds; The War of the Worlds; Sirius; Norstrilia. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 06:08, 19 July 2023 (EDT)

      Den illustrerade mannen

      Hi, You verified this publication. If You compare the contents with this printing You could use "Import Content" in "Editing Tools" feature to add the containing pieces. --Zapp (talk) 17:08, 30 July 2023 (EDT)

      Sure, I will try to do that. It seems straightforward. --Spacecow (talk) 08:25, 1 August 2023 (EDT)
      Done. Sorry, it took quite some time. --Spacecow (talk) 10:55, 13 October 2023 (EDT)

      Främling i paradiset

      The same as in the message before. Here the content is missing and could be imported from this content list. --Zapp (talk) 17:33, 5 August 2023 (EDT)


      Is there a cover artist credit in Your pv publication here? In my opinion it doesn't look like Jack Gaughan. --Zapp (talk) 15:24, 6 August 2023 (EDT)

      I found out there is a aignature by him on cover, so he is the artist. --Zapp (talk) 01:55, 10 September 2023 (EDT)


      There seems to be two entries for this publication. The note for this version also has a 1980 printing and a £1.50 price and points to (presumably) the true 1980 printing here. Can't determine what the difference between the two entries could possibly be. Thoughts ? --Mavmaramis (talk) 16:35, 11 August 2023 (EDT)

      Sry, for late reply here. I've been off for a couple of months, but no, the two seems to be very similar. Maybe duplicate? --Spacecow (talk) 15:07, 25 October 2023 (EDT)

      Ace Face; Old cover was the wrong one. --Username (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2023 (EDT)

      A Brand New World

      You PV'd this edition: I just sent in the following: Submitting web page 1 (blog article) & Goodreads external ID for this edition. Cheers. Mike (talk) 22:33, 23 August 2023 (EDT)

      Norton - 'Ware Hawk

      Hello, with regard to this pub, I've posted to Dirk P Broer's page here and would appreciate your input. Thanks. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 00:17, 10 September 2023 (EDT)

      Drakar & demoner

      Hi. Just a heads up that I'm getting back to adding the books in this Drakar&demoner publisher series so there will likely be info added to the ones you've PV:d. /Lokal_Profil 10:32, 9 October 2023 (EDT)

      Thanks. I wasn't really able to keep up with format you had established. --Spacecow (talk) 10:16, 13 October 2023 (EDT)
      That is not on you but rather on my own need for mining them on any data they contain =D. /Lokal_Profil 17:23, 13 October 2023 (EDT)

      New Dimensions 1

      Hi. If you still have a copy of New Dimensions 1: the current page says "A Special Kind of Morning on page 11 is listed as by Gardner R. Dozois on the story's title page and as by Gardner K. Dozois in the table of contents", but I see it the other way around. Could you check? Thanks. gzuckier (talk) 23:12, 13 October 2023 (EDT)

      I see in my edition: Gardner R. Dozois in the table of contents and Gardner K. Dozois on the story's title page. --Spacecow (talk) 14:44, 14 October 2023 (EDT)

      Wells - The War of the Worlds

      Hello, I'm letting you know I'm replacing the Amazon image for the 1st printing here with an identical, in-house one. It's the same as the 3rd printing. Let me know if anything is amiss. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 10:47, 17 October 2023 (EDT)

      Clarke - Time Probe

      Hi, I'm adding a new series to your PD'd pub here - Gollancz SF Series (1). Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 22:36, 20 October 2023 (EDT)

      Second; I have a PENDING edit fixing "sedond" to "second" in note; I assume it doesn't actually say "sedond" and it was just a mistake by someone here, right? --Username (talk) 23:51, 27 October 2023 (EDT)

      It says "Second" --Spacecow (talk) 17:05, 28 October 2023 (EDT)

      The Legion of Space and The Cometeers

      Cover art for this and this both confirmed as by David Bergen to me via Facebook. --Mavmaramis (talk) 14:11, 28 October 2023 (EDT)

      Cool. No objection. --Spacecow (talk) 17:09, 28 October 2023 (EDT)

      Your help would be appreciated

      Hello! Could you take a look at this and help to decide if the piece is from James Blish's "The Menagerie" (you verified a printing of "Star Trek 4")? Christian Stonecreek (talk) 11:19, 25 November 2023 (EST)

      The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction

      The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, August 2003 & The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, March 1999 & The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, July 1994 & The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, August 1993 I changed the cover image to local and added ASIN Susan O'Fearna (talk) 22:42, 25 November 2023 (EST)

      Earl Aubec 1997; Title should include "and Other Stories". Also, page numbers need entering. --Username (talk) 09:16, 16 December 2023 (EST)

      Harry Harrison / (A / The) Stainless Steel Rat Is Born

      I am editing and PVing A Stainless Steel Rat Is Born. My copy has the title "The Stainless Steel Rat Is Born" on the title page even though it's "A Stainless Steel Rat Is Born" on cover and spine. Can you please check your copy and advise what it shows. If it's the same, I'll do the title change and varianting. I also propose to add in the month: 1985-09-00 and state the source: Galactic Central Bibliography. Teallach (talk) 17:56, 21 December 2023 (EST)

      You are right, it says "The Stainless..." on the title page. And they have not made any corrections on the reprint either Same thing there. --Spacecow (talk) 12:04, 22 December 2023 (EST)
      Thanks for checking your copy. I'll make the changes to the first printing. Teallach (talk) 17:27, 22 December 2023 (EST)

      Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by A. Square

      hi there do you mind if the notes are changed to clarify the artwork. ie change "artist not credited" to "cover artist not credited" and add "with illustrations by the author" on the title page. Also import the interior illustrations by Abbott to the contents. Cheers (Gaz) Faustus (talk) 09:57, 13 January 2024 (EST)

      Go ahead --Spacecow (talk) 14:15, 14 January 2024 (EST)

      Robert Anton Wilson / Schrödinger's Cat - Glossary

      Posted on the Talk pages of Rtrace, Marc Kupper, Spacecow
      All of the publications: The Universe Next Door and The Trick Top Hat and The Homing Pigeons and Schrödinger's Cat Trilogy have a glossary at the back. I have all four of these pubs and have compared the glossaries and they are all the same. There is an existing ISFDb record for the glossary and it is present in the omnibus (all five print versions) but none of the individual volumes. Hence I propose to import it into each of these three pubs. As a consequence, I will also change the disambiguation from the omnibus name to the series name, ie from "Glossary (Schrödinger's Cat Trilogy)" to "Glossary (Schrödinger's Cat)". Is all this ok with you? Teallach (talk) 18:41, 18 January 2024 (EST)

      I can confirm that the glossary in the Pocket Books editions for these two are identical
      * The Trick Top Hat
      * The Homing Pigeons
      But, for example, the newer Sphere edition of The Universe next Door, (not mentioned by you Teallach) at a first glance the glossary looks to be identical to the aforementioned glossary, the Sphere edition has left at least two entries out (Quantum Logic, Superdeterminism) and swapped places for Cosmic Glue and Eigenstate (which does not make a lot of sense since the entries are supposed to be in alphabetical order). I don't know if that is enough to make it its own entry. --Spacecow (talk) 06:37, 20 January 2024 (EST)
      You are correct. Well spotted. I've checked the first Pocket ed of The Universe Next Door very carefully and it is the same as you have described for your Sphere ed of The Universe Next Door. So I guess what happened was that the publisher / author discovered that there was an error in the alphabetical ordering of the glossary entries in the first volume ("Cosmic Glue" transposed with "Eigenstate") and so corrected the error for the second volume The Trick Top Hat and also added two more entries ("Quantum Logic" and "Superdeterminism"). I've also rechecked the glossary entries for the second and third volumes and the omnibus - very carefully! - and they are identical. These revisions are too minor to merit a separate glossary but they do require an explanatory note so I will add one. Thanks for noticing this. Teallach (talk) 18:30, 21 January 2024 (EST)

      James Blish / A Clash of Cymbals

      I am editing and PVing A Clash of Cymbals and have added pub notes. Teallach (talk) 12:40, 22 January 2024 (EST)

      Battle Apes; This OL-only copy is probably the same as the one you PV so I added archived link but cover image doesn't show US price and where I assume UK price would be on back cover seems to have been whited out. What does your copy look like? Title page does have the info about UK copies, yes? --Username (talk) 00:02, 23 January 2024 (EST)

      Sphere Cities of Wonder; If your copy has readable prices on the back you can erase my note after approval and enter them all; also, pre-decimal price, if there is one, should be added to price field because it's a 1970 book before the switch to decimal prices. --Username (talk) 12:11, 26 January 2024 (EST)

      Another PV responded with all prices so no need for you to respond anymore, thanks. --Username (talk) 19:15, 29 January 2024 (EST)

      Salvation / US vs UK editions

      My copy of Salvation UK? or Salvation US? has red background to title, but only US/CAN prices. Yours? Trying to figure out which one to PV. --Glenn (talk) 19:05, 29 January 2024 (EST)

      Mine's read --Spacecow (talk) 02:08, 8 February 2024 (EST)
      I've submitted edits including a new cover scan. --Glenn (talk) 02:30, 9 February 2024 (EST)

      Theodore Sturgeon / Without Sorcery

      I am editing and PVing Without Sorcery and propose to 1) change Pages to xi+355. 2) change start page of Introduction to v. 3) change start page of Preface to viii. 4) add pub notes. 5) upload high res cover scan from my copy (existing image is a thumbnail). Is all this ok with you? Teallach (talk) 17:31, 17 February 2024 (EST)?

      Sure. I don't really mind, but what xi+355 would signal to me, would be 11 introductory pages followed by the main 355 pages, to a total of 366 pages. But what we see here is Roman numbers turning into Arabic numbers at page 13, with a total number of pages of 355. --Spacecow (talk) 19:00, 17 February 2024 (EST)
      I fully appreciate your point of view. However, whether you like it or not, the rules state:
      Help: Pages
      "For books, the general rule is to use the last printed page number, with exceptions explained below."
      The exceptions relate to situations where you count forward into unnumbered pages after the last numbered page which is not applicable to this publication.
      The rule is reinforced here:
      Help:How to determine the value for the "Pages" field in a book
      in the second bullet point which starts "Approximation"
      I will add a pub note about the page numbering. Teallach (talk) 13:16, 18 February 2024 (EST)
      Doesn't the Arabic numbering usually restart from 1 when those Roman numbered introductory pages are included? I don't have heavy evidence for this. This a more a feeling of mine. And I don't really have a strong opinion for one or the other. A note works fine for me. You are doing good work. --Spacecow (talk) 15:37, 18 February 2024 (EST)
      You are correct. In most publications, after Roman numerals, the Arabic numerals usually restart from page 1. This publication is very unusual. However, publishers do all sorts of bizarre and inconsistent things. I suspect they do it just to make life difficult for ISFDb editors :-) Thanks for the compliment. Teallach (talk) 18:38, 19 February 2024 (EST)