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Hello, Main, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Hauck 13:45, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

New Myths, Issue #1

Hello, I've put your submission on hold. As per our ROA we usually do not index stories published in webzines, except if 1) the webzine is downloadable as electronic file in any number of ebook formats (ePub, Mobi, PDF, etc), 2) publication in the webzine makes the author eligible for SFWA membership or 3) the work has been shortlisted for a major award. Can you confirm that your intended addition meets these criteria (the first two will allow the whole of the issue to be entered, the third will only allow the inclusion of the shortlisted texts). Thanks. Hauck 13:53, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

New Myths #1

Thanks, Hervé. I don't think that New Myths meets the criteria, so I will cancel my submission. Maybe I'll find something else to catalog soon. Main 14:18, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

Thanks for the information, we'll be waiting for your next submissions. Hauck 15:17, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

The Man Who Sold the Moon

I have accepted your edits to The Man Who Sold the Moon and made the additional changes indicated in your notes. As you indicate you have the publication, please consider verifying it and adding a cover image (see instructions provided in the welcome message for both). Feel free to expand the publication notes as well (might want to check out other verified pubs for examples, but not required). If you have any questions, please let us know (ISFDB:Help desk is a good resource for asking). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:52, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

There are two steps to adding a cover image. After you have uploaded it to the wiki, you need to add the link to the image (go to the image's wiki page and click on the image itself - that will give you a link with just the image) to the publication record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:57, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

Many thanks for your help with my revisions to the record. I have linked in the image now! Main 19:06, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

Working languages ...

... have in fact to be assigned manually. We decided for that somewhat torterous way because it is not trivial to assign it (though in some cases it's easier than with others). Thanks for the addition, Stonecreek 09:03, 11 September 2017 (EDT)

The Golden Years of "Astounding"

Hello, as the PV of the book, I've been able to confirm the rightness of your proposed change and have approved it. Please note that it's useless to submit the same edit twice and that, in such cases where the publication is Primary Verified by someone, you should discuss the change with him/her. Thanks for finding this error. Hauck 10:59, 4 February 2018 (EST)

Thank you, Hervé. I didn't know about the PV field, so I will look for that in any future requests for revisions. Also, sorry about the double submission. I didn't realize that the submission had actually occurred when I first hit the submit button. Instead, I thought that it was giving me a preview of the submission (like on Wikipedia). So I hit the back button, added some additional information, and hit submit again. That was when I realized that I'd submitted it twice. The pages are clear enough, but I'm just inexperienced.

Thanks again. Main 11:21, 4 February 2018 (EST)

El anacronópete: Viaje á China - Metempsícosis

Hello, I've approved your submission but had to make some changes to conform to our standards:

  • changed type to OMNIBUS (as it contains one separately published NOVEL).
  • merged the novel with the already existing record.
  • somewhat cleaned the note field.
  • added INTERIORART record.
  • uploaded a scan.

The result is here, don't hesitate to correct my spelling (there is probably an accent in Gomez) and add any missing data (e.g. the cover artist or a price). Thanks for contributing. Hauck 11:15, 20 February 2018 (EST)

The Runaway Robot

I have had to reject your addition of interior art to the The Runaway Robot publications. One of the publications you edited has been primary verified by two editors and neither entered an interior art record. If you want to double check they just didn't miss it, you can leave a message for Don Erikson as he is an active participant. However, based on the current verification it seems likely this edition was also published without artwork. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2018 (EST)

Many thanks, JLaTondre. I will send a message to Don. Main 19:24, 21 February 2018 (EST)

Thanks. When leaving messages though, please be sure you are leaving them on the User talk: page and not the User: page. I moved the message for Don for you. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:52, 21 February 2018 (EST)

The Man who was Magic: A Fable of Innocence

I accepted your edit to The Man who was Magic: A Fable of Innocence. Since your moderator note states you have a copy, please consider verifying it. If you verify a pub before submitting an edit, we will see the the verification status when processing the edit. We do appreciate your submissions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:55, 21 February 2018 (EST)

Many thanks for the info on how to verify, JLaTondre! Main 20:06, 21 February 2018 (EST)


Hi, that's quite a list you're submitting, with quite some wishes too: Note to Moderator: Hello.

1. Please correct the name of the artist for the interior art ("Rusted Tin Man") from "Cartwright" to "Steve Cartwright". This interior art is a smaller version of the image that is used at the top of the webzine's landing page.
That shouldn't be a problem
2. Please delete the incorrectly created author record for "Cartwright".
Happens automatically when there's no title/publication for the author record
3. Please let me know how you decide to handle the image that appears twice on the webzine's landing page, so that I can submit consistent changes to the existing (inconsistent) publication records. One approach is to list it as a cover image with the title "Rusted Tin Man" and as an interior image with the same title. I would not indent the listing for the interior image, because it is not part of the poem, "The Sepultress". Another approach is to list it as interior art, either once or twice. You may wish to examine the layout at
I'll make it one cover art and one general interior art
4. If possible, please adjust the indentation on the listing the review (The Lord of the Rings). On the publication record -- -- it should not be indented under "Man in the Mountain". An alternative is to add the review column itself as an essay by Ahmed A. Khan, and the insert The Lord of the Rings review under it. If you choose this option, the title at the top of the review column is "The Magic of the Rings is Tempermental". Thank you. Seeing how you handle this record will aid me in creating future records. All good things, Michael
Now there's the knack. Indenting happens for all items such as interior art, reviews and interviews, if I am not mistaken. Indenting thus doesn't mean a connection to the line above per se.--Dirk P Broer 22:06, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
I hope everything is to your wishes now.--Dirk P Broer 22:37, 17 August 2018 (EDT)

Many thanks, Dirk, for your work and for your kind words. This helps me to understand how to make the indexing consistent for New Myths. All good things, Michael Main 07:23, 18 August 2018 (MDT)

Editor record

Hi, you followed the correct course of action, there's no way to create an editor record before there is content AFAIK.--Dirk P Broer 12:29, 2 September 2018 (EDT)
Thank you, Dirk! --Michael Main


Serbian is a dual script language - it can be written in both Cyrillic and Latin. This one is Serbian and not Croatian from what I can see (so I will correct it) but I will also ping our Serbian editor for confirmationn- it is not that easy to figure it out sometimes. Thanks for finding it! Annie 18:42, 11 October 2020 (EDT)

Confirmed as Serbian :) Annie 18:54, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
Thank you, Annie. You would not believe how long it took me to remember how to post messages on my own talk page. I had to remember that the discussion pages need a separate login from the isfdb pages. Main 23:40, 4 February 2021 (EST)
We really need to add that to our welcome message... Welcome back! :) Annie 23:41, 4 February 2021 (EST)

L'âge d'or de la science-fiction

I broke the variant based on your note here. Instead of sending a note in an empty submission, you can do either of following:

  • Just submit the breaking of the variant with your explanation in the Moderator note (you do that by submitting a variant with a Parent ID of 0)
  • Post on Community so someone can check and do the breaking :)

Thanks for finding this one. :) Annie 12:26, 4 February 2021 (EST)

Thank you again, Annie. I will try to do the variant breaking in the future if I run into another example. Michael Main 23:42, 4 February 2021 (EST)

Nongenre works ...

... are usually not indexed at ISFDB, with the exceptions: a) that they are by above-the-threshold authors (for example crime stories by Isaac Asimov), or b) that they contain genre works (for example an anthology of suspense stories that contains a ghost story). So, we wish to add those works, but do index only the contents relevant to ISFDB (and add a note, like here).

I also added some information to the notes section that seemed appropriate (if not, please change accordingly). Thanks, Stonecreek 08:20, 15 February 2021 (EST)

Dzienniki gwiazdowe

This update was very well done so nothing to apologize for (and even if it was not, we all start somewhere) :) A few small things:

  • Added a note in the notes explaining the source - why the link cannot be added to the proper note, as you are working off a scanned copy of the contents page, you mention this :)
  • Essays such as Introduction in any language get the name of the book added to them. And when you are not sure of the author, you use unknown (unless you know it is uncredited/unsigned, then you use uncredited).
  • You had a few extra colons in the titles that I cleaned.

See the result. If you have any questions/concerns, please let me know. Thanks for adding these stories! Annie 22:47, 11 March 2021 (EST)

One more thing - when you add them with EditPub, you are creating new records for each of the records. When we already have them in the DB, you can use Import instead. Here is the help page. I merged all of these with their existing versions now :) Annie 22:53, 11 March 2021 (EST)
Thanks, Annie for the help with this. One more thing I noticed today: The introduction (Wstep, [1]) from the 1966 edition of Dzienniki gwiazdowe [2] is almost certainly the same as the FIRST introduction (Wstep, [3]) from the 1971 edition of Dzienniki gwiazdowe [4]. I beleive this to be the case based on the titles, the length, and the fact that the SECOND introduction in the 1971 edition has a longer full title of “Wstęp do poszerzonego wydania” (Introduction to the extended edition) as per [5]. Might you be able to merge the two Wstep records (but leave the second introduction from 1971 in its own record). Thanks! Michael Main 21:37, 15 March 2021 (EDT)
We were just working on that elsewhere through Russian and Polish sources. See how it looks like now and let me know if something looks off. Annie 22:05, 15 March 2021 (EDT)
The current listings look great, Annie! It clearly describes the current state of bibliographic knowledge at the ISFDB. My local university has a special collection of works by Jewish sf authors, so I had hoped they might have had the 1966 or 1971 edition of Dzienniki gwiazdowe, but their only Polish edition appears to be [6] from 1982. I can probably check that out if doing so can provide you with any useful information, although it looks like the ISFDB already has one primary verifier of the ’82 edition. Michael Main 13:29, 16 March 2021 (EDT)
Zoltar had not been here since 2012 and since then we added support for languages, for non-Latin titles and a lot more. So who knows how valid the '82 data is in this book... So... if you want to grab the book, I can work with it to get some things updated if needed :) My Polish is not great (no sure how yours is) but I know enough to read what I need from a scanned page if it gets to that. :) Annie 13:43, 16 March 2021 (EDT)
Thanks for the info, Annie. I have no Polish knowledge, but I will check out the ’82 edition when I go into town, probably at the end of March, and I’ll scan what you need. Talk with you then! User:Main 19:48, 16 March 2021 (EDT)
PS: While I do not mind you putting the link to my name in the messages, it does not notify me that I was mentioned - I know you posted and I respond quickly because I have your Talk page on my Watchlist and I am around so I keep an eye on it. :) So if you need to talk to someone, you need to post on their Talk page (unless they are already posting on yours and expect you to respond (so have it on the watchlist) :) Annie 19:55, 16 March 2021 (EDT)

Using the Import Tool

Note to self: To use the import tool, go to, replacing the XXXXXX with the id of the publication that you want to import into. Then follow the directions from Annie's help link.

Can Annie add a note here? :) You do not need to remember the URL if you do not want to - you can go to the publication and click on "Import Content" on the left menu. Either way works. PS: On another note, you can park links and notes over on your User page - that way you do not lose them in the clutter of the Talk page where everyone talks to you :) Annie 15:20, 2 April 2021 (EDT)
Thanks, Annie!

Miss Pickerell on the Moon

I approved your submission for Miss Pickerell on the Moon. Bravo! Bob 12:36, 20 April 2021 (EDT)

NewMyths.Com, Issue 1, December 1, 2007

Macde the following changes to NewMyths.Com, Issue 1, December 1, 2007 which you have primary verified? Added publisher credit, moved issue link from notes to can, corrected typo in notes. John Scifibones 12:25, 13 October 2021 (EDT)

Thanks, John! Main 21:53, 10 January 2022 (EDT)