User talk:Filbi

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Trail of the Seahawks coverart attribution

Hi, and welcome. Thank you for catching the mistaken attribution on the coverart for Trail of the Seahawks. When there is a mistake like that, we don't make the credit be both the mistakenly identified artist and the correct artist. Depending on the nature of the error, we do one of two things.

(1) If the attribution is explicit (e.g., the copyright page or back cover were to say "Cover art by Jeff Easley"), yet we know it to be incorrect from Elmore's signature on the artwork or Elmore's posting the original painting on his website, then we record the artist as what is explicitly credited + " (in error)". Here, if that were the case we would use "Jeff Easley (in error)". Then we would make that an alternate name for the actual artist and make the incorrectly attributed coverart record be a variant of a correctly attributed one. The publication would end up displaying:

Cover: Trail of the Seahawks by Larry Elmore [as by Jeff Easley (in error)]

and we would add to the publication notes a bullet explaining the stated credit and why the correct credit is known to be someone else.

(2) If the attribution is not from an explicit statement in/on the book, then if we have solid evidence of the correct attribution, we change it in place. For any credit that is not from the the book's explicit statement, we would record the source of the credit in the notes (so, here, something like "Artist not credited, but his signature is visible in the lower right corner of the front cover"). If the incorrect attribution came from one of the official "secondary verification" sources (in this example: Locus1, WorldCat/OCLC, or Reginald3), we would also mention that discrepancy in the notes (e.g., "Artist not credited. Locus1 credits Jeff Easley, but the cover is signed by Larry Elmore in the lower right corner").

I checked Locus1, WorldCat/OCLC, and Reginald3, and none mentions the cover artist. So I can't tell where the Jeff Easley credit came from. My best guess is braino/typo or misinterpretation of that signature.

Anyway, the bottom line is we can just fix the credit and state the credit came from the signature on the cover. What I am going to do is decline your submission and make that change (save you another edit). Thanks, and thank you for contributing. --MartyD (talk) 12:24, 16 March 2024 (EDT)

Heh. I accepted instead of declining. Fixed it. The result is here. --MartyD (talk) 12:29, 16 March 2024 (EDT)

Thank you for your help. There actually is an explicit incorrect attribution to Jeff Easley, which I have documented here. Easley provided the cover for another book from TSR/Windwalker that same year, Bimbos of the Death Sun, so I assume it was a templating mistake by the publisher.--Filbi (talk) 20:43, 16 March 2024 (EDT)

Ah, so you have the book and the title page says what's shown in that picture? Then it would be scenario #1, so we need it to be the other way. --MartyD (talk) 07:53, 17 March 2024 (EDT)
Ok. fixed up to reflect that. See here. If you have the book, I encourage you to do a "Primary Verification" -- visit that page and choose "Verify this Pub" from the Editing Tools section. "Permanent" means you anticipate continuing to have the book and also means people may come to you with questions about the record details. "Transient" means you only have the book temporarily and implies you will not be able to answer future questions about it. It helps us to know that a human being with book in hand is behind the details in the record. Aside: You can upload files, such as that title page photograph, to this Wiki via the "Upload file" function at the left. Once it is uploaded you will get a permanent link you can use in posts here or even in publication notes. --MartyD (talk) 08:07, 17 March 2024 (EDT)
OK, thanks, I verified it.--Filbi (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2024 (EDT)
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