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Hello, Fantagufo, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Hello JLaTondre, and thank you for the welcoming message! I had already found some of the help pages you recommend, and actually I keep them always open in a dedicated browser window while operating on the db; now I will check also the others.
I possess a good collection of SF books in Italian language, and I intend to submit to ISFDB as many as I will be able - without rushing. Most of these books are translations of English books for which I expect to find the master record already in the DB, yet bibliographical challenges were already encountered, since ISFDB requires extreme precision (and I like it for that, too).
I see that Moderators are quite busy with a significant submission queue, so I promise not to post questions to you or to the board without thorough study of the help pages (and all the same this of course already happened!). Thank you again --Fantagufo (talk) 05:51, 18 April 2024 (EDT)

Prefazione (Manoscritto trovato a Saragozza)

Hi Luca -

I'm holding your submission to make this title a variant of this title. I can't detect any differences in either the title, author name or language that would necessitate a variant relationship. I think you may want to merge the two titles instead of making a variant. Please let me know if I'm missing something here, or if you need help on merging. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:53, 17 May 2024 (EDT)

Hi Ron! You are right, they are the same text and should be merged. Another possibility is to change the title of the one I added: in the parenthetical disambiguation I just put the title of the novel. Should I instead specify also the subtitle "testo stabilito e..."? If I remember correctly, there is no strict rule for disambiguations. What do you recommend? thanks! /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 10:13, 17 May 2024 (EDT)
I'm also not aware of a rule for this. It looks as though another editor has already submitted and approved a merge of these two titles. Consequently, I'm going to have to do a hard reject of your other edit (one of the prior title records no longer exists). If you would prefer to have the disambiguater include the subtitle, what you would need to do now is remove the Prefazione from 1006749 and edit the record to add a new title including the subtitle. After those are approved, you'd need to make the later title a variant of the earlier one. However, if you're happy with how these look, there isn't really a need to change them. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 07:38, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
Two moderators show preference for merging... and who am I to disagree? ;-) No, really, Ron, I'm perfectly happy with how it is now, won't change anything.

I take this opportunity to ask you another question: in the Contents section of the other publication of this title, also the page on which the novel begins is indicated. I think that this is a nice piece of information too, but when I tried to enter the main text in the content of another novel, I got an error message saying something like "it is forbidden to enter a novel-type object in the Contents". How can this be accomplished? /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 08:04, 18 May 2024 (EDT)

I'm not familiar with the error, but if you were trying to add the page number of the start of the novel while you were adding a new publication, you won't be able to do it that way. When you add a new novel, the system will create the NOVEL title record automatically and it doesn't give you the option to add the page number at that time. If you tried to also add a NOVEL in the contents section, that may be the error you are seeing. If the software would have allowed it, you would have ended up with two NOVEL records in the publication. What you need to do to accomplish what you desire is to wait until the new novel edit is approved. Then edit the publication and you will be able to add a page number at that time. Hope this helps. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 08:21, 18 May 2024 (EDT)
Understood. But that process would mean an additional submission just to add that page number... there are already too many... I think I'll do that only for few very special cases when I will feel that this information is more significant than normally. Thank you again, Ron! /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 08:32, 18 May 2024 (EDT)

Art credit gone wrong

Hello, in the case of the question you left at the moderator noticeboard: it's better use Peter (I) or Peter (Italian) (the latter if you think it is safe to assume that the artist is Italian), as we already have an English Peter, and I'd assume the both are different persons. Christian Stonecreek (talk) 06:35, 25 June 2024 (EDT)

I viaggi di Gulliver

After approving this submission, I made a slight change to the author disambiguation. J. Swift (1667-1745) is more intuitive in a search. What do you think? John Scifibones 17:42, 8 July 2024 (EDT)

that's very ok for me, and thanks for all those approvals! /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 17:56, 8 July 2024 (EDT)
No worries, sorry we are so behind. Will you resubmit this one with a source?. Thanks, John Scifibones 17:59, 8 July 2024 (EDT)
well, I see from the Recent Activity tab that there is less than a score moderators and 700 submissions a day... when I started submitting, just 3 months ago, the queue was just 200-300 items and approval time was 2-3 days... mostly their own... and that made me incautiously optimistic, I must admit. About this one I was quite puzzled... Shaffer is the Ohio University software programmer that helped the digital artis Csuri, and he is just mentioned as co-author of Random War in some websites, e.g. here and here. I got the birthday/place I submitted from this site but now that I apply one more neuron to it I guess that it's in error (born 1970 and programmer 1968?) and they mixed the data with those of the James Shaffer guitar player, much more famous. At this point I would simply cancel my submission (or maybe just leave the language). advice welcome! /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 20:02, 8 July 2024 (EDT)
I agree, you should cancel the existing submission and resubmit with just the working language. John Scifibones 07:45, 9 July 2024 (EDT)
Done, and added a tiny note with the only piece of information really available. Thanks for finding out this one, John! /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 14:29, 9 July 2024 (EDT)

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien

The software forced me to reject your submission making John Ronald Reuel Tolkien an alternate name for J. R. R. Tolkien. Another editor made the connection before yours was approved. With some edits, I can approve a duplicate, but not in this case. Sorry, John Scifibones 20:18, 9 July 2024 (EDT)

Same for Nada Rappensbergerovà-Jankovicovà. John Scifibones 20:23, 9 July 2024 (EDT)
John, I really can't understand. you had to reject two alternate naming because they are are already approved by someone else? It seems to me that all I have to do is to submit the relevant title varianting (which I actually already did, they are in the approval queue) What do I have to do now? I think you know where I wanted to arrive... can you teach me how to get there? a link to the proper help/howto page? thanks! /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 20:41, 9 July 2024 (EDT)
You did nothing wrong! I was just explaining why this one and this one are in your rejected edits instead of recent edits list. John Scifibones 21:10, 9 July 2024 (EDT)
oh, that's a relief! sometimes isfdb rules seem complicated... in spite of the excellent help pages. thank you for the explanation, and also for the massive approvals you did today for me (still browsing and following-up on them....) /Luca/ --Fantagufo (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2024 (EDT)