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On the Wheel


I removed the BN number from here because it was the ISBN. When the BN number is ISBN13 or the ASIN number is ISBN-10, we don't record them in the two external IDs - as they are in the ISBN field and we already have live links to them based on the ISBN in the left menu. Annie 20:06, 4 February 2022 (EST)

Not a problem aardvark7 11:15, 5 February 2022 (EST)

Matching Amazons

While is not a bad source here, I'd also check Amazon Italy for any Italian books - the different Amazons may have different data (look Inside in one and not in the other, some extra comments or reviews and so on) so I would check all of them and always list the "proper language one" (plus any others that gave me additional info). Just saying :) Annie 17:18, 22 February 2022 (EST)

I was using links from DuckDuckGo to check different sites. Actually most of the info came from Libroco & Book Depository. I thought I added a link to Luca Oleastri's site but it didn't seen to attach. I can across this by accident.

L'impero dei Mizar is on the site as part of record 1493455 Millemondi Estate 1996 as one of the 3 stories. AShould these be linked somehow?? aardvark7 17:30, 22 February 2022 (EST)

Well, you added on an Italian book so I stopped by to mention that Italy has their own Amazon version as well. :)
Merged now. Next time when we already have the novel, instead of using NewPub, you can use AddPub - then we won't need to merge after it is approved :) Annie 17:38, 22 February 2022 (EST)
I was debating, but since it was a story in a book of a different title, I wasn't sure. My link was missing the h in the href. It goes to his page that shows the art and the cover. aardvark7 17:55, 22 February 2022 (EST)
It is a novel in an omnibus (added as an anthology because of a very old obsolete rule - I am looking into how to fix - as the authors need to be different in that case) :) You cannot use ClonePub (because there was no publication with just the novel) but that is what we have AddPub for :) Annie 18:00, 22 February 2022 (EST)
Clone, Add, New. Multiple pages for the same book (Title, the book, the cover). I keep learning how big and complicated this turkey is!! aardvark7 18:05, 22 February 2022 (EST)

Beneath Nightmare Castle


Regarding this cover. Please upload it again using the "Upload new cover scan" link in the book. That allows us to cross-link a bit if we want/need to (that's why you had a yellow warning message :) ). Thanks! Annie 10:38, 1 March 2022 (EST)

Hi Annie, I thought that is what I did. If I remember I went to the page and selected "upload new cover" then moved the new link to the page.
If not, I just did it. It said it already existed but I told it to save. I did not sub the new link since the words would be the same. Obviously I am not doing something right. aardvark7 13:27, 1 March 2022 (EST)
All good now. I suspect that last time you changed "Destination filename:" in the upload form - thus the weird tag :) One more thing left here - when the image is already there and not by you, you need to edit the Web page and replace the previous uploader name with yours - it is always a manual step - if you see the "already exist" warning, you need to go edit that post upload. Annie 13:31, 1 March 2022 (EST)
OK a question. There are two versions of this book. One has the Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone title in Black and the other in Red. Other than that, the covers look alike. ISFDB has the black letters. The copy I found has red letters. This version is shown on Amazon. It has the same ISBN-10: 0140322388 as the black but fewer pages (256 red vs 400 Blk (per ISFDB data base but black version on ebay has same 256 pg count)). I find both versions on Ebay (US). At least one of the ebay listings with black says it was published in England. None of the other Black or any of the red say, just that they are in English. I found back sides of both versions and they are also the same. (UK, Aust, NZ & Can pricing).
So... if there are two covers and thus two editions, we want both. It is possible that the ISBN was reused but the covers were different in the different countries. If that is the case, clone for that second one. If not - you may just note the difference in the notes. The 400 pages is the pre-loader from somewhere -- and it is possible that the cover may be a preliminary one. So... do some more digging - if you think there are indeed two books, submit the second one ;) Annie 15:23, 1 March 2022 (EST)

One unrelated question. I have a warning saying my page is 77 KB and I should break it up. How do I do this? aardvark7 14:05, 1 March 2022 (EST)

Do you want just a step by step or do you want me to do that for you and give you a step by step? Annie 14:30, 1 March 2022 (EST)
Right now I am recovering from surgery and a bit fumble finger. Could you please step in, then give me a step by step that I can look over?? aardvark7 14:37, 1 March 2022 (EST)
Apparently my fingers were also unhappy with me so sorry for the multiple edits :)
  • Open a new page under your own User page where you want to archive your older messages and go to its Talk (or start from there directly). Just go to your talk page here and add the new page name at the bar (I added "/Archive2017-2021" after some fumbling). Edit that page.
  • Open your Talk page for editing and move the old messages to the new page. Save the new page.
  • Add the new page address to the Archives section I started above under your Welcome (I leave the welcome in place as it has useful things - if you want to move it out to the archived page - go ahead).
  • Save the old/regular Talk page. All done. When the page gets too large again, or at the start of each year if you prefer or even more often, you can do the same -- create a new archive page, move messages, add the archive page to your list of archived pages.
Let me know if I can assist further. Hope your recovery is going well. Annie 14:52, 1 March 2022 (EST)
PS: The link above in Archives will get you to the page but here is the direct link: Archive 2017-2021. Annie 15:02, 1 March 2022 (EST)
OK I just made a new section below this explaining to myself what I think you did. How close am I?? aardvark7 15:14, 1 March 2022 (EST)
You were missing a step :) I added an explanation. Annie 15:23, 1 March 2022 (EST)

new page archive

At bottom of page uder views click on EDIT Create a new section "== name ==". Note this looks like code so copy and paste old archive name then rename. New item will appear in Contents square. I assume you then open new section and old section in seperate windows and copy-paste stuff from old to new section. Then save both.

Nope - this will just add a new entry here on this page... which was only needed that first time so you have an Archives section to collect your Archi links. You need a brand new page. You do that by adding the new name of the page on the address bar - where it says, you make this or whatever you want to call it. NOW you edit that one and copy stuff into it. Once you are done, you go and edit the Archives section above to add the link to the new page so you do not lose the link to it. Let me know if that makes more sense. And my offer is always here - if you rather not deal with that, just ping me when you need an archive and I will be happy to help. :) Annie 15:19, 1 March 2022 (EST)
OK I see where if I take the g\page and add something it created a page that says "You've followed a link to a page that doesn't exist yet." I see where I can edit and add stuff then I can save that page. What I don't understand is how I create the link in the archive section.

I see that I would need to edit the Archives section. I see there is a link saying Archive2017-2021 and if I open that it leads to a page ending in Archive2017-2021. Its think link I don't understand how to make. OR Wait.... If I hit edit the archive section there is code(?) saying "((User_talk:Aardvark7/Archive2017-2021|Archive2017-2021))". This is the link? and if my new page is named Archive 2021-23 I would add to this section "((User_talk:Aardvark7/Archive2021-23|Archive2021-23))". where the ( are brackets. Is that it? aardvark7 15:39, 1 March 2022 (EST)

Yep - that's wiki code so that if we ever move (to https for example), these links are still valid. Just copy what I left there one more time and replace Archive2017-2021|Archive2017-2021 with the name of the new page you created (test|test) for example. The thing before the | is the actual page. The thing after the | is the text appearing on the page here (so you can do "test|And this is my test page" instead of "test|test". If you look at my own page, you will see my multiple archives :) Annie 15:44, 1 March 2022 (EST)
OK! You can teach an old dog new tricks!! Thanks! Now am I opening a can of worms with my Black vs red cover?? aardvark7 15:51, 1 March 2022 (EST)
Not really - if they exist, there is a difference somewhere and we want to know about it :) Go do more research :) Annie 15:59, 1 March 2022 (EST)
Thanks...... aardvark7 16:13, 1 March 2022 (EST)

Capitalization and authors with multiple initials

When adding books, please keep in mind our standardization rules:

  • We standardize capitalization (so "from" is always spelled with small letters unless it is the first word in a title or subtitle)
  • Authors with two initials always get a space between the two initials.

I've fixed it here. You also had the wrong Goodreads ID -- this is definitely a different book. I am also not sure where the date 2005-09-05 came from - both GR and Amazon (which are all your sources) have 2005-09-30 :) All that is fixed. I'd also recommend to use and not just Amazon so it is clear which of the 16 Amazons you are sourcing from (as they may have different data) and I added the price as Amazon did have the list price. Let me know if you have any questions and/or concerns with these :) Annie 20:54, 4 March 2022 (EST)

PS: I also added the series and dated the synopsis here. When copying synopsis or notes from an online source, always add a date - unlike books, sites change so dating when we grabbed the data is useful (Same reason you date the publication notes the way you did it there). Thanks for adding this book :) Annie 20:59, 4 March 2022 (EST)
My mind must have been somewhere. No idea where my Goodreads came from or the date. I was debating on the initials. There is also a Kindle version and a newer print & Kindle with different covers. I will play with those and try to take my time. Found this by looking for art for Dave Seeley. aardvark7 10:38, 5 March 2022 (EST)
OK I have a couple of questions. The current cover has 2 Kindle versions. One is by Realms and the other (1st one out) by Creation House, a self publishing firm. I see them listed as a publishers so I can use them, correct?? Also the second cover in the Amazon Look Inside says "Cover Design by Alexander von Ness". His website says "book covers on steroids". Reading the about me I can't make up my mind, is he also the artists? What do you think?Also in this cover version T. L. Higley is now using Tracy Higley. aardvark7 10:54, 5 March 2022 (EST)
No worries - that's why we have the second set of eyes system. You can look for books based on an artist or author or topic or just see something randomly - we want it. I wish we could have all books but we don't so any missing books are welcome to join us. :)
"Creation House" - if they are credited inside of the book as publisher, yes. Or you can use the Author name as we do with some of the "publishing platforms". As we have it here, you can as well use it - but if there is access to a title/copyright page, check what is actually credited.
Alexander von Ness - The operative word is "design". Unless there is also credit for art, he gets only a note (and yes, it is a slippery road and today's technology can make the distinction meaningless but... for now design credit means no coverart :)
Tracy Higley - So you add the book as NewPub by Tracy Higley and decide which one is going to be the canonical (take a look at their other books to see which is used more often) and then pseudonym/variant accordingly. If you need any help, do let me know. If the later name is the canonical, the dating of the parent titles will need some adjusting but ignore that for now - let's get the books in and connected and we can deal with that later. :) Annie 17:13, 5 March 2022 (EST)
I'll check to see if there is a Look Inside for it. I will also look to see if Higley has a web site with other books. Goodreads may give me a hint since I thought I saw that they were a Goodreads author. aardvark7 17:18, 5 March 2022 (EST)
Even if they are not, Goodreads and OCLC tend to be good options to see what else they have published (unless they have their own site). And Amazon can also be useful for that. If you cannot decide, pick one - we can always reverse :) Annie 17:26, 5 March 2022 (EST)
O-Tay aardvark7 17:31, 5 March 2022 (EST)

Cover Artist Rafael Lopez Espi

Hello Aardvark7, I've seen that you have added Rafel Lopez Espi as the cover artist for Die Vampirkutsche. What is the source of your information? Thanks, John. JLochhas 04:20, 23 July 2022 (EDT)

The owner of the original art has it up for sale at

Sorry I should have put you on copy aardvark7 09:56, 23 July 2022 (EDT)

No worries about that. It would have been nice, though, if you had added to the publication's notes and also updated the artwork record. I've meanwhile taken care of that and also adjusted the artist's name to his canonical name. Thanks. JLochhas 10:19, 23 July 2022 (EDT)
Do you know about these sites? .:. .:. .:. They have lots of info on the German books. I am not that up on them but have noticed that there are many of the John Sinclair books not in the DB. aardvark7 20:54, 23 July 2022 (EDT)
Yes, I am aware of the sites, in particular is no longer maintained and has taken over most the material and the users are actively adding. Whilst the publications exist for sure not all of the data is correct, cover credits and publication dates don't always match reality.JLochhas 05:03, 24 July 2022 (EDT)

Vortex ebook

I have this submission on hold. It it is the same as this one. You can add the ISBN and BN link to the existing publication. I'm thinking we will end up standardizing the publisher as 'Catherine A. Wheeler' as more titles are added. John Scifibones 17:26, 19 August 2022 (EDT)

I did them as two items as one is Kindle and one is Nook, 2 different formats of ebooks aardvark7 14:44, 20 August 2022 (EDT)
We only create one record. You can specify the different formats available in the notes. John Scifibones 17:07, 20 August 2022 (EDT)
OK I made a note that the entered title was Kindle and that it was also available as a Nook, so if you want I can or you can kill the other submission aardvark7 17:17, 20 August 2022 (EDT)
You can cancel it. I would still add the BN link. Thanks, John Scifibones 17:57, 20 August 2022 (EDT)
O-Tay aardvark7 18:34, 20 August 2022 (EDT)

The Transliteration field

I just found quite a few of Russian books added by you where you added a translation into the transliteration field. The field is for transliteration - representing the non-Latin characters with Latin characters and not for translating the words in English. If you are not sure how to transliterate a specific language, just leave the fields empty and someone will fix them later. In addition the artist was credited in English - which will only be valid if the artist's canonical name is in English and they are credited based on secondary sources only and we know the are not credited in the book. I am fixing all books where the cover art was by this artist. If you had done the same for other non-Latin languages, please revisit and/or post them here so I can fix them. Thanks! Annie (talk) 20:09, 10 November 2022 (EST)

My bad. Don't think I have others but will try to watch it in the future. aardvark7 (talk) 11:43, 11 November 2022 (EST)
If you end up adding any more of these, feel free to post on my page with a link to them and I will be happy to help you shape them properly and fix what needs fixing as they are happening. :) Annie (talk) 10:42, 14 November 2022 (EST)
I just happened to find them because of my Pinterest page. Came across the artist, tracked down the books and saw they were not in the data base. This was a rare instance. aardvark7 (talk) 22:04, 15 November 2022 (EST)
Figured that was the case - I’ve seen you working through artists. :) Will sort them out - as long as they are in the DB, we can get them fixed. The offer stands though - if you stumble over another of them, feel free to ask for help (to check them or to assist with adding or anything in between). Annie (talk) 22:09, 15 November 2022 (EST)

Importing titles

Concerning this edit of your, if you want to add missing art records (or any contents title really), you should import the title, instead of editing the pub record and thus creating a duplicate title, which would then afterwards have to be merged with the already-existing one. Importing is one edit, the way you're doing it requires two...
To import, search for the title id you want to import (Title Record #), then display the publication you want to import the title into, and select 'Import Contents' from the left hand menu. I've rejected your submission, and imported the title. See this submission. MagicUnk (talk) 11:29, 25 November 2022 (EST)

Sans concession

Hi, You submitted Sans consession - tome 1 as an English publication, not French - I've corrected that for you (assuming that that's what it needed to be ;)). MagicUnk (talk) 11:37, 25 November 2022 (EST)

My error, you are right it is French, I think i missed the field. aardvark7 (talk) 16:41, 25 November 2022 (EST)

Translator in title record & varianting vs merging

As a reminder, do not forget to add the translator with the tr-template into the notes of the title record. Thanks! MagicUnk (talk) 11:40, 25 November 2022 (EST)
Also, if you have two identical titles that e.g. differ in their dates of publication, then do not variant, but merge instead. Varianting can only be done with translations, or different titles for the same work. If two titles are identical, then merge instead. I've rejected your varianting edit, and merged the titles instead. Result here: Le Dit du sang. Regards, MagicUnk (talk) 11:45, 25 November 2022 (EST)

Question IMHO Le Dit du sang record 3103844 needs to be merged with Blood Ties record 849035.

To do this I would go to Record 849035 and select Make this Tital a Variant, then put in record 3103844 as the parent, correct? aardvark7 (talk) 16:40, 25 November 2022 (EST)

Yes, that's the correct way of doing it (apart from the fact that that wouldn't be called 'merged'. It would be called 'varianting' :) MagicUnk (talk) 10:59, 28 November 2022 (EST)