ISFDB:Research Assistance/Archive 10

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Twenty and Three Stories, Thornton Butterworth edition

I have verified the Appleton edition (US) of Twenty and Three Stories by Twenty and Three Authors. The Thornton Butterworth edition (UK) was entered by somebody else (Bluesman, on the basis of Tuck? anyway, probably not from a primary source). I notice that there are some differences between the records -- not just the different order of stories, but also differences in credits, for example "Lemuel De Bra" versus "L. De Bra," "Robert S. Hichens" versus "Robert Hichens," "Arthur Conan Doyle" versus "A. Conan Doyle." Furthermore, although Doyle's story appears as "Captain Sharkey" in the table of contents, it is "How the Governor of Saint Kitt's Came Home" at the head of the story. I hope someone can get hold of a copy of the Thornton Butterworth edition and carefully check the titles and authors. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 22:29, 4 January 2019 (EST)

Frankenstein and Foreign Devils - Walter Jon WIlliams (1st Edition, Trade)

I just finished reading my copy of this work (#449, signed) and noticed that the table of contents order does not match the actual content order:

Erogenoscape [listed as starting on page 225, actual start page 263]
Foreign Devils [listed as starting on page 263, actual start page 289]
Bag Lady [listed as starting on page 289, actual start page 225]

The remaining content/start pages are correct as is the total number of pages.

Since this is a verified edition, I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to proceed. Request a reverification and a note added? or what?

regards - d —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dsorgen (talk • contribs) 21:32, 21 January 2019.

This is a pretty late response, but just noticed this. I assume you are talking about this pub? If so, both verifiers are not active. If you are confident you have the same version, go ahead and correct the page numbers and verify it. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

The Science Fiction Book

Re this book - a recent post on Twitter brought my attention to this image:

[1]

As "Satellite of Extraterrestrial Civilization by Andrey Sokolov"

It's been modified (redrawn perhaps) and had additions but defuinatly the same base image.

It is viable to put Sokolov as covert artist or merely make a note about it ? --Mavmaramis 14:46, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

I would just make a note of it. It's quite possible for another artist to have redrawn it as that's not unknown for publishers to have done. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:34, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

Also, the cover of Franz Rottensteiner's book has a number of additional elements: note the monster at the bottom of the picture, a spaceship up top and the nebulae in the two right corners. Ahasuerus 11:03, 25 April 2019 (EDT)

The Embedding

This publication references an ilustration on page 63 of this book.

However the illustration in the latter is this image [2]

Patently different from the cover art on Watson's book, albeit by the same artist.

Would someone mind editing that please ? --Mavmaramis 14:13, 28 April 2019 (EDT)

Variant removed. Thanks for finding this one! Bob 12:54, 29 April 2019 (EDT)

Guide to Extraterrestrials

this edition note states "Stated 2nd Edition, 5th printing"

this edition note states "Fifth Printing per the number line of the 1987 Second Edition"

Which seems like they are the same edition.

Any danger of someone concatinating them ?

--Mavmaramis 15:40, 5 July 2019 (EDT)

I'm not sure what you are asking. One is a tp and one is a hc. They have different ISBNs. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:31, 5 July 2019 (EDT)

Also, there's no need to ask the same question in two different spots. Just pick one and someone will answer. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:44, 9 July 2019 (EDT)

Didn't spot they were 'tp' and 'hc' as for asking the same question in two places it looked to me like it was deleted from that message thread. --Mavmaramis 12:30, 10 July 2019 (EDT)

Infinite Worlds magazine cover

I am the editor of Infinite Worlds Science Fiction Magazine and I am attempting to verify that the cover art I uploaded is indeed mine, I am the owner of the copyright (2019) and I give permission to display it on the Infinite Worlds entry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by InfiniteWorlds (talk • contribs) . 20:12, 20 July 2019 (EDT)

The Moons of Jupiter

I have a copy of this book which looks for all the world to be identical to this right down to the copyright page prtining history ceasing at "Reprinted March 1975" merely rebound with the Peter Elson cover and 90p price. The PV1 for tge former is no longer active there isn't anyone to check a physical copy to see if it does indeed state "Reprinted June 1980". My copy seems to be an anomoly. Over to you experts --Mavmaramis 13:28, 17 September 2019 (EDT)

See this record verified by Bluesman. It seems to match your edition (no 1980 reprint statement, same cover, same price). -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:20, 29 September 2019 (EDT)

Thank you. --Mavmaramis 12:38, 29 September 2019 (EDT)

Wrong Nebula Award year

Noobie here. Not sure if I'm in the right place.

Information on ISFDB: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ay.cgi?31+1974 Nebula Award 1974

on Nebula site: https://nebulas.sfwa.org/award-year/1973/ Nebula Best Novelette 1973

Unsure of how to proceed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darkstar1951 (talk • contribs) .

Welcome to ISFDB. It comes down to presentation - our years show the year the awards are given in (see the full list, the official site is now using the year the works are written in). Changing them wholesale is doable but we do need to have a lot bigger discussion if we want to. Plus other online lists also use the old way (year the award is given in). Annie 14:35, 26 September 2019 (EDT)

Maybe we'll need to add form fields to capture "Award issued in YEAR1 for works published between YYYYMMDD and YYYYMMDD". That would work for any award, and give useful information, too (especially for awards like the Dragon Award where the dates are halfway through the calendar year). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:27, 28 September 2019 (EDT)

Annie is correct as to how the year field is noted in the help file. That being said, there are a few awards that we have entered by eligibility year (e.g. the Tiptree. I'd rather we didn't add eligibility dates fields to each individual award record. Instead I'd propose that we have an Award Year/Eligibility year switch at the Award Type record, as we do with Poll and Covers More Than SF switches. Oddballs like the Dragon, or the early Imaginaire can probably be handled in the notes. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 09:11, 29 September 2019 (EDT)

Southern Exploration

For Southern Exploration, we have the true author as Brian Holloway. However, SFE has the author as A. L. Woolf. Our record has no source. Anybody know anything about this before I switch it to match SFE3? -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:43, 6 November 2019 (EST)

The SF doesn't really have any sources, either. I wonder if someone like David Langford (very knowledgeable guy in the UK) would know. I'll ask him to look at this. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:05, 6 November 2019 (EST)

I also asked another UK fannish person I know. Hopefully, one of them can point us in the right direction. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:10, 6 November 2019 (EST)

David Langford is one of the SFE's editors. He and Stephen Holland are credited (the "[SH/DRL]" initials) as the authors of that entry. ;-) Thanks for asking. Always good to get confirmation. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:32, 6 November 2019 (EST)

David verified the information, citing a correction sent in by someone who was "in the know". We should change our listing to match SFE. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:10, 7 November 2019 (EST)

Change made. Thanks! -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:55, 7 November 2019 (EST)

cover artist error

Council of Fire by Eric Flint & Walter H. Hunt - 2019 Baen Books : Data base shows Tom Kidd as artist.

This cover picture is found on the David Seeley website at [3] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aardvark7 (talk • contribs) .

The book in question. According to the notes, the credit is printed in the book. I will ask the verifier to stop by and check again. Thanks for reporting this. Annie 14:09, 12 November 2019 (EST)

I don't have the book, but that is definitely Seeley's style. I don't think I've seen any photo manipulation work by Kidd. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:28, 12 November 2019 (EST)

Cover art credit changed. Nice catch, thank you. Bob 19:32, 12 November 2019 (EST)

Nihonjoe, I agree, this is not Kidd. But it is a verified book from an active PV with a note implying credit from the book itself? We can wait a few hours/days for them to check and correct the note and find out who copied a name wrong and where. Because of the credit WAS Kidd in both places in the book, we are in the "in error" conditions and we need to record that way and do some varianting to adjust. :) Record by the book, right? :)

Thanks for updating that, Bob! One less error in the DB. :) Annie 19:44, 12 November 2019 (EST)

I wasn't saying it should be changed based on my observation. Just sharing my observation. :) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:05, 12 November 2019 (EST)

With all the "I am not notifying PVs in any way or form when I change something in their books" going on lately, I may have reacted a bit too sharply on principle. Sorry - I was not implying that you did but it can be read that way - it was certainly not intentional. Annie 20:09, 12 November 2019 (EST)

:) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:29, 12 November 2019 (EST)

Degler! Fanzine: Editor with access to Libraries Australia?

I am working on moving our NLA links to their new home in the external IDs and stumbled on a set of links that seems to be sending me into the "logged in" section of the library and I cannot figure out if this record exists at all these days (the ID does not work on the public interface and no search string had managed to find anything related) or if it is just dead or it got migrated somewhere.

One of the records is this one - they all point to the same NLA ID so I suspect it is just a generic record for the whole run.

Do we have anyone with access in the system who can check the link and see if it leads somewhere after you login? Thanks in advance! Annie 12:00, 6 December 2019 (EST)