User talk:Ofearna/Archive23

A Little Silver Book of Sharp Shiny Slivers

Hello, Accepted your new publication A Little Silver Book of Sharp Shiny Slivers but had to change the publisher from "Borderland Books" to "Borderlands Books" to reconnect your new book with its brothers. I do not see any indication on the publisher site that we need to use a different name. Let me know if I missed something. :) Annie 22:45, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Same here. Annie 22:47, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

I swear I entered Borderland Press ... Susan O'Fearna 22:51, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

You did. But it have to be Borderlands - which I changed it to. Or do you think it should be Borderland (with no "s")? All the previous books from the publisher have the "s" Annie 22:55, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Oh, ok, it does have the -s doh! Susan O'Fearna 23:03, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

It is Friday and it is hot - a missed "s" is the least one can expect under these conditions :) Hope it is a little cooler up there than it is here down in the valley. Annie 23:36, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

it only got up to 87 today, but a little rain causes the temp to drop nicely :D Susan O'Fearna 23:37, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

ASIN and ISBN

Hi again,

I have two of your submissions temporary on hold. Can you join us here? For most paper books with ISBNs, the ASIN is the same as the ISBN-10 (including the two I have on hold) so recording them again repeats information already on the page. Your opinion will be appreciated! Annie 00:30, 8 July 2017 (EDT)

if you'll add them without the ASIN link...?

I will let them in as they are (the temporary above was because I wanted to make sure I do not get distracted while sending messages around - the on hold is the only way to make sure another moderator does not grab them while I type) - we can always go back and remove it from both. Here we go: here and here. Annie 01:08, 8 July 2017 (EDT)

If There Be Dragons

Hello Susan, I've approved your submission but deleted artist credit as we do not credit designers. Hauck 02:07, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna

The Harry Potters

Hi,

I accepted your updates but can you check again if they are directly from Bloomsbury or from Bloomsbury Children's Books (UK) (we are keeping the two separate in the DB). Bookdepository seems to indicate it is the imprint for example). Thanks for checking!

PS: And thanks for bringing those to my attention... I think :) Annie 20:07, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

I got them for a good price at BookDepository.com -- the title page says Bloomsbury, which I've been told is what we should use. The copyright page says Bloomsbury Publishing then "Bloomsbury is a registered trademark of Bloomsbury Publishing Plc" -- I don't see Bloomsbury Children's Books anywhere Susan O'Fearna 21:42, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

Then it is the main publisher and not the imprint. I may come to talk to you again when mine arrive here. :) Annie 21:50, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

OK Susan O'Fearna 21:51, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

Joe Hill: The Graphic Novel Collection

Hello Susan, as our ROA seems quite clear for once, this publication is not allowed in the db as it seems to be a collection of graphic novels and not an illustrated collection of "plain" texts. Can you confirm? Thanks. Hauck 03:39, 25 July 2017 (EDT)

Your call, but they're adaptations of novellas Susan O'Fearna 03:31, 26 July 2017 (EDT)

Ok, thanks for the information, I've rejected the submission.Hauck 03:33, 26 July 2017 (EDT)

All right Susan O'Fearna 03:40, 26 July 2017 (EDT)

Fairy Tales of the Brothers Grimm

Hi Susan. I have on hold your addition to Grimms' Fairy Tales because I noticed the cover image has "Grimm's" instead of "Grimms'". I was recently helping another editor with separating the two titles, so it was fresh in my mind. Does your book use the plural possessive, despite the cover's singular possessive, or is it singular on the interior, too? If the latter, I'll move it around when I accept the submission. Thanks. --MartyD 06:44, 9 August 2017 (EDT)

it says Grimm's on cover, title page and on copyright page. Susan O'Fearna 13:56, 9 August 2017 (EDT)

is there a way to change the parent to 1724679 or will I need to do that after? Susan O'Fearna 14:14, 9 August 2017 (EDT)

Well, since 1724679 is by "The Brothers Grimm" (instead of "Brothers Grimm"), yours can't share that title. That one is also itself a variant of Kinder- und Hausmärchen. So I've fixed your pub to be "Grimm's", and I made it a variant of the German title. You can see if it all looks like. I also made one other small change: "Barnes & Noble" -> "Barnes & Noble Books".

I do have one other question/comment for you: For the interiorart, you used "endpapers", spelled out, instead of "ep". It probably should be the latter, but was there some reason you decided to spell it out? Thanks. --MartyD 19:55, 9 August 2017 (EDT)

I'll start making it more accurate now that it exists :) Susan O'Fearna 02:05, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

Varianting of Grimm titles

Hello, alas I've to reject some of your submissions, because there are some typos in the original records and one misjudgement.

The original scan [1] of this record [2] proves that the correct title is Der alte Sultan.

The original scan [3] of this record [4] proves that the correct title is Der Dreschflegel vom Himmel and has to be merged with this title [5].

This title [6] isn't the same story as [7].

The original scans [8] and [9] of this record [10] prove that the correct title is De wilde Mann.

The original scan [11] of this record [12] proves that the corecct title is Die schöne Katrinelje und Pif, Paf, Poltrie and per German KMH a variant of this one [13].

The original scan [14] of this record [15] proves that the correct title is Häsichen-Braut and it's a variant of this title [16].

I'll correct the typos. The story titles of the Brothers Grimm are full of different and strange spellings. Thanks Rudolf Rudam 05:28, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

Awesome... and I'll finish adding my new Grimm's book :D Susan O'Fearna 12:37, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

Hello, I' don't understand such submissions as these, you should merge titles instead. In general such results are not correct (a double varianting instead of a merge). Hauck 13:47, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

MHutchins told me if I wasn't sure about the translations to do it that way... merging would probably have been easier :D Susan O'Fearna 15:08, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

Michael is moderating no more so his idiosyncrasies are gone. If more data becomes avaliable, it'll be time to unmerge. For the time being a record like the one above (with two seemingly identical variants without different translators) is just uncomprehensible for the casual user.Hauck 15:46, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

that'll likely be easier :D Susan O'Fearna 15:59, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

Shadow and Bone

Hello Susan, I've put your submission on hold. Your proposed publication looks a lot like this already existing one except for some details. What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 02:49, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

This is the 14th printing and I'm not 100% sure of the Square Fish - the title page just says Henry Holt but the copyright page has Square Fish Susan O'Fearna 04:27, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

So perhaps should the date be set to "0000" as the 14th prining is likely not to have been published on the same day as the first (for the publisher, I'd go for just "Henry Holt" as we use the copyright page only on lasr resort). Hauck 06:22, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

So if you'll approve it I can make the change to 0000 Susan O'Fearna 14:56, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

Cover artist credit for Infinity: Chronicles of Nick

Hi. I have let through a change from editor Gzuckier to your verified Infinity: Chronicles of Nick that adds the photographer as an additional cover artist. The information matches your notes and looks like it probably goes with the cover, which appears to be a composite of a photograph overlaid on an illustration. But I can't tell without the book, and the photographer credit could well refer to an author's photo on the back or on a flap. Would you please take a look and see if you agree with the dual credit interpretation and discuss with Gzuckier if you do not? Thanks. --MartyD 07:07, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

will do Susan O'Fearna 08:32, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

Flap reads "Jacket photograph by Colin Thomas | Jacket illustration by Cliff Nielsen" Susan O'Fearna 14:42, 26 October 2017 (EDT)

Wildside

Hi Susan, I accepted Wildside, but Amazon doesn't seem to know the ASIN, and the ISBN comes up associated with another book (Halloween Carnival) there and in other places. Would you double-check that and the ASIN? Thanks. --MartyD 07:15, 17 September 2017 (EDT)

https://www.audible.com/pd/Sci-Fi-Fantasy/Wildside-Audiobook/B00AHI6WRA Susan O'Fearna 13:06, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

The Bronzed Skies The Bronze Skies

Hello Susan, I've put a submission on hold that intends to change the title of your verified from The Bronzed Skies to The Bronze Skies. Can you have a look? Thanks. Hauck 02:48, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

it *is* bronze, not bronzed Susan O'Fearna 13:07, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

Thanks for having a look; I'll accept the submission. Hauck 13:16, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

Cool Susan O'Fearna 13:41, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

Pilgrimage: The Book of the People

I have rejected your edits to change the various "Pilgrimage: The Book of the People" stories from shortfiction to a serial. These were not serialized, they were all published in the same publication. In addition, they have been verified by multiple verifiers. If you believe there is a reason to bend the definition of serial in this case, you should discuss it with the verifiers. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:52, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

OK Susan O'Fearna 01:20, 27 September 2017 (EDT)

Unfettered II: New Tales by Masters of Fantasy

A quick question about your verified Unfettered II: New Tales by Masters of Fantasy, which lists "Brightwine in the Garden of Tsitsian Village" as a short story. Fixer has found and entered a standalone chapbook publication of the same story. It uses a somewhat different title, "In the Village Where Brightwine Flows", but the copyright page says that it's a reprint of "Brightwine in the Garden of Tsitsian Village". The chapbook's subtitle reads "A Shattered Sands Novella" and the page count is 102.

Since you have verified the e-book version, would you be in a position to check the word count of this piece? Hopefully it will help us determine whether it's a short story, a novelette or a novella. TIA! Ahasuerus 16:58, 4 October 2017 (EDT)

It's in the e-book; there's no word count or anything...? 43 screens at the 4th font size up... Susan O'Fearna 12:38, 5 October 2017 (EDT)

I see. Would it be possible to count the number of words on an average page? Ahasuerus 13:44, 5 October 2017 (EDT)

I believe you can do a "borrow" of a Kindle book? do you know how that works? Susan O'Fearna 18:32, 5 October 2017 (EDT)

or here's the first page...

Thanks for posting the first page! I've counted 275 words. Since the top of the page is taken up by the title, let's say the average is 325 words per page. 325 times 43 is almost 14K words. Most likely it's under 17.5K words, so it's a novelette according to our definition. I'll go ahead and update the record. Thanks again! Ahasuerus 20:47, 5 October 2017 (EDT)

ok! Susan O'Fearna 14:15, 6 October 2017 (EDT)

Author Order

Switching the order of dual authors rarely (if at all) works. Once entered, the order is stuck per the mercies of the software. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:16, 24 October 2017 (EDT)

K Susan O'Fearna 14:34, 26 October 2017 (EDT)

The Art of John Bolton

Hi Susan! I adjusted the notes and the price field for this publication. Christian Stonecreek 12:31, 11 November 2017 (EST)

ok Susan O'Fearna 00:35, 12 November 2017 (EST)

The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill vs. Weeds

I have a question about this submission which I currently have on hold.

As far as I can tell, "The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill" is a graphic novel/comic book adaptation of "Weeds" and appears in this collection of 5 comic book adaptations of Stephen King stories. Would you happen to know otherwise? if one is a graphic novel and the other one is not, I wouldn't advise against varianting them since they are different works. Ahasuerus 21:02, 14 November 2017 (EST)

P.S. Similarly, this submission would turn the screenplay version of "War for the Oaks" into a variant of the novel version. Typically, we have screenplays listed as separate titles as opposed to varianting them, e.g. see The Colour of Magic: The Illustrated Screenplay. Ahasuerus 21:18, 14 November 2017 (EST)

I varianted Jordy Verrill since it's an adaptation of Weeds and War/Screenplay is an adaptation of War for the Oaks... I didn't merge them, but varianted them Susan O'Fearna 12:43, 16 November 2017 (EST)

Understood, but variants are used to catalog identical or somewhat revised texts with different titles and/or author attributions. On the other hand, a screenplay adaptation or a comic book adaptation is liable to have very different content. Would you agree? Ahasuerus 13:02, 16 November 2017 (EST)

I went ahead and set the "graphic format" flag on all of the titles in this King collection and its Finnish translation. I then rejected the submissions and made sure that there were no other variant relationships between King's stories and their graphic adaptations. Hopefully we should be all set now. Ahasuerus 10:52, 18 November 2017 (EST)

P.S. I also put "War for the Oaks" and "War for the Oaks: The Screenplay" in a series so that they would appear together. Ahasuerus 10:54, 18 November 2017 (EST)

Thanks Susan O'Fearna 02:17, 19 November 2017 (EST)

Joe Hill's Graphic Novels

I'm holding the submissions of Hill's graphic novels pending this discussion. Please contribute your thoughts there. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:24, 15 November 2017 (EST)

1, 3 and 4 were already here, so I added the others. We decided Thumbnail, Kodiak, The Cape 1969 and the Joe Hill Graphic Novel Collection don't fit, but all of the Locke & Key should be here... Susan O'Fearna 12:41, 16 November 2017 (EST)

Burning Alive (excerpt)

This is an a verified work. Please remember to ask the verifier prior to making credit changes like this. While it is most likely is is a database error, it isn't unknown for publishers to make a mistake as well. Also, the credit is more likely Shannon K. Butcher than Shannon Butcher. Given that, I have rejected this edit and asked the verifier to double check. Once we have an answer, I'll fix it either by correcting the author or varianting it. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:09, 17 November 2017 (EST)

ok Susan O'Fearna 18:10, 17 November 2017 (EST)

The School for Good and Evil

Hello,

Can you look at your submission and let me know what the number of pages is supposed to be? I will accept and correct but I have a feeling that 48813+31 is a bit incorrect :) Thanks! Annie 18:31, 19 November 2017 (EST)

488+13+31 thankx Susan O'Fearna 22:20, 19 November 2017 (EST)

Approved and fixed. Thanks! Annie 11:35, 20 November 2017 (EST)

Under Heaven

Hello again,

Can you clarify why the publisher needs to be changed in this one? As we already have one verifier and because of how we deal with imprints, I would like to make sure everyone is on the same page before I accept the change. Thanks! Annie 11:42, 20 November 2017 (EST)

The publisher list has both ROC and ROC/NAL for paperbacks -- this one just says ROC, so I used the one from the book itself... Susan O'Fearna 01:58, 21 November 2017 (EST)

Do you mind dropping a line to the other verifier? If there wasn't one, I would have accepted it based on the explanation but as we have one, I would rather clear that before the change. Thanks! Annie 13:14, 21 November 2017 (EST)

I asked Bob Susan O'Fearna 15:43, 21 November 2017 (EST)

Horns

Hello Susan,

Would you mind joining us over here to discuss the naming of the essay "Acknowledgements, Notes, Confessions" in your verified Horns. I do not expect the 11th printing to have messed up the name but just in case - it seems to have one too many "e"s - should be Acknowledgments; the other copy's verifier confirmed. Thanks in advance! :) Annie 17:24, 28 November 2017 (EST)

OK Susan O'Fearna 13:50, 30 November 2017 (EST)

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: illustrated in 2015?

Hi, Susan! The date for this book was likely entered by mistake: the first edition is known to be published in 2016, not 2015. Or is it stated mistakenly in the book? Christian Stonecreek 13:48, 30 November 2017 (EST)

I'll get my copy back from LisaMarie tonight and check Susan O'Fearna 13:50, 30 November 2017 (EST)

Hmm, considering that higher printings are likely not dated, I've set the date to unknown. If there is, in fact, a date stated, please correct. Thanks, Chrsitian Stonecreek 14:33, 30 November 2017 (EST)

OK Susan O'Fearna 21:03, 30 November 2017 (EST)

non-genre contents in Adventure Stories for Girls

I would like to remove the non-genre titles from Adventure Stories for Girls, listing them in the notes instead. I think that would be "My Ship Is So Small," "My First Flight in a Storm Cloud," "Better Let Blame' Well Alone," "The Taming of Percy," "Joan of Arc," "Attack on the Takao," "What a Night!," "The Escape of Princess Clementina," "The Dancing Academy," "The First Lady of Flying," and "The Stolen Cubs." Have I included any that should be excluded or vice versa? --Vasha 21:07, 6 December 2017 (EST)

I only included the SF titles -- all the non-genre aren't there already Susan O'Fearna 13:20, 7 December 2017 (EST)

Really? Isn't "Better Let Blame' Well Alone" an excerpt from Huckleberry Finn involving robbers, and "My First Flight in a Storm Cloud" a pilot's memoir, and "What a Night!" a sports memoir? I read "The Dancing Academy" online and am sure it is not speculative. --Vasha 14:38, 7 December 2017 (EST)

I'll re-read the stories..., BTW, do you have a copy of the book? Susan O'Fearna 04:26, 8 January 2018 (EST)

Suggestion for Frost Burned (SFBC edition)

Hi, I see you verified the SF Book Club edition of Frost Burned. I did the regular hardcover edition. I'm guessing the contents are the same -- perhaps you could import the additional contents from the HC? Thanks. BungalowBarbara 21:15, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Done Susan O'Fearna 18:29, 1 January 2018 (EST)

Some cover artists additions ...

... were supplied by a new editor for publications PVed by you. The cover artist in question is David Mann. Christian Stonecreek 00:09, 17 January 2018 (EST)

is there a question there? Susan O'Fearna 16:55, 17 January 2018 (EST)

Dark Screams Vol. 9

Thanks for adding the latest iteration of Dark Screams. But would you please figure out what the length of the new stories in it is? Thanks, --Vasha 09:49, 24 January 2018 (EST)

I'll do what I can... Susan O'Fearna 12:43, 26 January 2018 (EST)

A Chaz Brenchley short story

Hi Susan, could you see if the title by Chaz Brenchley in your verified pub Hellbound Hearts is in fact "Tis Pity He's Ahore" and not 'Tis Pity He's Ashore'. A variant may be required. Thanks for checking!. PeteYoung 07:32, 7 February 2018 (EST)

I'll grab it when I go home for lunch... Susan O'Fearna 14:13, 7 February 2018 (EST)

hahahahah - it is aShore Susan O'Fearna 22:04, 7 February 2018 (EST)

Request to make changes to The Coyote Road

Hi, I am verifying the hardcover, trade paperback, and eBook editions of The Coyote Road and have just imported all the artwork entries from your verified SFBC copy. Thank you for doing all that work to enter them!
I did notice that we had separate entries for the Preface and Introduction -- mine under "Preface (The Coyote Road: Trickster Tales)" and yours under "Preface (Coyote Road)." Same for the Introduction. Would it be OK to remove your versions from the SFBC version and replace them with mine? I bet they are the same.
I have also noticed a page number error - you have the artwork for "God Clown" on page 435 and the story on page 437. I see them both on page 437 in both print editions I'm viewing. BungalowBarbara 00:13, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

sure though won't just merging them be just as good Susan O'Fearna 04:18, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

I don't think you can merge anymore -- am I wrong? I don't see that option... BungalowBarbara 18:10, 4 April 2018 (EDT)

It is where it had always been: Either use the advanced search or the "view all titles" from an author page to get to the interface that allows merging :) Annie 14:25, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

Thanks Annie Susan O'Fearna 18:19, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

A Stir of Bones

Hello, Are you sure that the publisher of this one is not actually Listening Library? If it is Audible, is it Audible Studios or one of the others here? Thanks! Annie 20:58, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

Honestly, I don't know. I have it in my audible library and it says "this is audible" but when I click on the link it says "Shucks. This product isn't available.", so... Susan O'Fearna 22:29, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

All of them say "This is Audible" :) Amazon thinks it is Listening Library. But it is the first and only book under just Audible so it needs to be shifted somewhere - Audible.com for example if nothing else :) Annie 22:38, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

Actually, amazon thinks there's a newer one with a 2018 release date and no cover... https://www.amazon.com/A-Stir-of-Bones/dp/B07B3XJJBM Susan O'Fearna 22:46, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

Same ASIN? Annie 22:47, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

amazon and audible have different ASINs https://www.audible.com/pd/A-Stir-of-Bones-Audiobook/B002V02G18 is the link from the book in my "library" and I get the shucks message, but when I search for the book, I get https://www.audible.com/pd/Teens/A-Stir-of-Bones-Audiobook/B07B3WTJS7 , which is DIFFERENT (Release date: 04-03-18) -- mine was *purchased* 12-26-1 6 (and I have several that says "Brilliance Audio Presents" or some such) Susan O'Fearna 22:52, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

hah, checked the metdata

also "Audible dot com and Penguin Young Readers' Group Present: " Susan O'Fearna 22:55, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

Yeah, I know about the different ASINs. Very annoying, isn't it? :) I tend to add the Audible one in the notes when I remember :) So what do we want to do with this one? Move to Audible.com to reunite it with the rest there for now? Annie 23:29, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

sorry, do what? 00:57, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

Never mind - I saw that you fixed the publisher so we are all set :) Annie 01:01, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

☻ ☺ Susan O'Fearna 12:56, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

By the way: Audible ASINs - I've requested a new External ID for the Audible ASINs so we can record both the Amazon and the Audible versions (and search by them and so on) Annie 20:23, 17 May 2018 (EDT)

Cool Susan O'Fearna 00:43, 22 May 2018 (EDT)

And we have them - in the dropdown, under the Amazon ASINs :) So next time you add an audiobook, you can add both ASINs :) I am going to go through the pre-existing records later to add the ones that are still around on the Audible site. Annie 00:52, 22 May 2018 (EDT)

Awesome! Susan O'Fearna 12:50, 22 May 2018 (EDT)

Fatal Fortune

FYI, I have changed the author of "Sense of Deception (excerpt)" in your verified Fatal Fortune from "2014-07-01" to "Victoria Laurie". Ahasuerus 12:21, 25 May 2018 (EDT)

ok, I have no idea what you changed if FROM ☺ Susan O'Fearna 12:59, 30 May 2018 (EDT)