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Hello, Zybahn, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!Kraang 03:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thunder Mother

Welcome Zybahn. I changed the date 1973 to 1983 for Thunder Mother, but I'm not sure if this is a variant title of Mother Thunder............Heroic Visions, Ace, 1983. I'll check my verified pub. of 1990 and see what it says. Thanks for editing!Kraang 03:19, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Moorcock's The Lives and Times of Jerry Cornelius

Thanks for the new edition of this title. I corrected the price that you provide in the submission. You should provide only one price in the price field, adding the other prices in the notes field. Please see this help page about entering prices. Also, because this was a collection, it would have been better to use the "Clone This Pub" function using a previous publication that closely matches your edition (correcting the differences) rather than using the "Add a Publication to This Title" function. This helps you (or any later editor) from having to add the contents, and then merging each content title record with those records already in the database. See this help page about cloning. Thanks. MHHutchins 03:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Cordwainer Smith's The Planet Buyer

You submitted a new publication of this title, but it has the same date as the 1964 first edition. The catalog number and price of your edition implies a printing circa 1969. Is the date of October 1964 explicitly stated in your edition? I've placed your submission on hold until I hear back from you. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:12, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi & thanks for the note (I just stumbled on these pages while fooling around).
There is little information on my copy. It reads:
A Pyramid Book--published....October 1964
(list of publications in magazines)
Copyright, 1964 by Corwainer Smith
(publisher's address)
The book number on the cover reads X-2049 beside the price (60c), and on the spine there is a partial number, possibly an ISBN (there is an unfortunate tear here): 511-02049-? (the ? is likely a 0 but google couldn't help here). Possibly a later printing using the same template as the first? Zybahn 15:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad you found the Wiki. There's instances where editors took months to find it and there's some who have never found it! I checked out the bibliography on the Cordwainer Smith website, which also gives the 1969 date. Take a look at this list for the 1969 Pyramid publications, and you'll see what I mean about your copy's publication date. I'm going to accept your submission, change the date, and record the info you gave me above in the notes field. Thanks. MHHutchins 15:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover

I have your publication update to Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover on hold to sort out a couple of issues.

  • Artists - You are replacing Richard Hescox with David Cherry and Richard Hescox (border design). The Artist field is generally only used to credit the artist(s) who created the painting. Designers can be credited in the notes and I would suggest that you document the exact wording used. I know that for a while DAW would hire one artist to draw a painting and another to design and draw a decorative frame or border. I suspect in this case we would have David Cherry be credited as the cover artist and we'll add a note about Richard Hescox's role as we don't have a mechanism to handle miscellaneous contributor roles.
  • You want to change the title of Man of Impulse to A Man of Impulse. Please see Help:Screen:EditPub#General contents for information about changing the titles of stories/essays in the Contents section.

I'd like to hear back from you on the artist credit. As your publication update has quite a few changes, many of look like which they are improvements to the publication record, I think what I'll do once I hear from you is to approve the submission but then to undo your change of the title for Man of Impulse and to instead do it via the add-title/remove title mechanism outlined on the help screen noted above. Marc Kupper (talk) 18:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link on titles -- duly noted (I simply wanted to replace it as it appears in the book).
Regarding artists: I wanted to replace Richard Hescox with David Cherry since Cherry is credited for the artwork. I didn't know what to do with Hescox & didn't want to simply delete someone else's entry. But I see... I can add this info in the notes field in the future. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zybahn (talkcontribs) .
Thank you - I approved the update and then did the fix-ups for A Man of Impulse and the Richard Hescox credit. Marc Kupper (talk) 20:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Here's a Help Page that more directly answers questions about how to change content records. Hope this helps. MHHutchins 22:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for the note on the publication delete. I'm curious as to what you are using as a source for data entry into ISFDB as you are adding publication records for books that don't seem to exist.

I deleted the 0-446-32057-9 record per your note but see that we already have a record for The Hour of the Gate at HRFTGT1984.

I'm wondering about the 0-446-30091-8 publication record. The ISBN you used is not found on,, AbeBooks, nor other sites. When I dig up an ISBN from an obscure place in a publication, or derive the ISBN, then I add a note about where or how the ISBN was found. If it's a derived ISBN I also search to see if it's in use and add notes about this and won't use it as the main Catalog # if it's not in use. Marc Kupper (talk) 18:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The sources I'm using are the books themselves. I'm selling off a lot of old books & thought I'd record them here first. I just double-checked and the ISBN I have is indeed the one that appears not to exist. I've also failed to find reference to it online. Odd. Next thing I'll discover is that I don't exi
Zybahn 01:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding a second printing

You want to update The 3rd Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories. Most of the changes look ok but what got my attention is

  • Changing the year from 1968-03-00 to 1969-07-00
  • Adding the note "Stated 2nd printing: "Second Impression July 1969." First published March 1968."

In this case you should leave the original record in place as it's for the March 1968 first printing. While a little inconvent for you I'd do the edit in two passes. The first would be to add the page numbers as it's 99% that the publisher did not change those from the first to second printing. Once a moderator has approved this (it should be fast and easy) you would then clone the first printing to create a record for the second printing.

It's problematical that the title is changing too. Did you use the title from the title page?

In this case I decided to leave the original record alone other than your page # additions and have created a new publication, THRDFNTNBK1969, for the second printing. Once we hear back from you on the title as stated on the title page then either you can do the work or one of the moderators can help you but we'll need to separate out that publication into a new title and to make it a variant title. Marc Kupper (talk) 05:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was the same book since the book numbers matched. My bad. The title is indeed "The Third Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories." This is on the title page, the cover & the opening leaf. It is a British printing which normally spell out numbers. I will remove the "3/6" for the prince since that was on the previous entry & my copy has no price info at all (I don't even know what 3/6 means). Zybahn 15:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
For info on British currency pre-decimalization (or pre-decimalisation, if you're British), see this Wikipedia article. MHHutchins 18:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Zybahn - I approved the latest update and then did the following:
If you look at the editor's bibliography you'll see the results. It would be great if you can mark THRDFNTNBK1969 as primary-verified as it matches your copy. In looking at AbeBooks dealer listings with cover photos I'm seeing they use things like "The Sixth (6th) Fontana..." when describing the title. It's not clear if this is to help the publication they are selling match up with people searching for either the 6th or sixth or if the publications use "6th" on the cover and "Sixth" on the title page. The seller covers show:
  • The Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories
  • The Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories (3rd printing - has a different cover)
  • Second Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories (Yes, there is no leading "The". One copy has a clear 3/6 in the lower right though that looks like a sticker. Another copy has "85¢" in the same area and it too looks like a sticker.)
  • The 2nd Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories (different cover than "Second Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories". Reported as 2nd and 6th printing)
  • The 4th Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories
  • The 5th Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories (The Beagle 95199 reprint uses the same cover as Fontana and has 80¢ printed on the upper/right corner)
  • The 6th Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories
  • The 8th Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories
Unfortunately, there are no copies of the 3rd/Third book for sale with a cover photo but it's pretty clear with the Second/2nd that they were experimenting with the wording and that by the 4th book they had standardized on a leading "The" and decimal numbering. Probably around the time they were getting ready to do the 4th they were reprinting the 2nd and/or 3rd and for the reprints changed the titles to be consistent and to throw bibliographers off the trail 40 years later. The apparent price stickers on the second book seem to indicate why your third does not have a price. Marc Kupper (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
A good place to find "Nth Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories" examples is Gloomy Sundae. It's useless to verify against as they're careless about Author or Title regularisation, don't state which printing or edition the cover is for, don't justify pseudonyms, etc, but it's a basic check as to roughly what stories were in which book, and they are generally better at that than Amazon at least. I'd only use them for completely missing contents or titles though, or as a starting point for a search for more accurate data. BLongley 21:14, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all the useful info. I'm just confused as to why "Third" was entered as a separate book. When you said "variant" I assumed that meant it would still be linked under the original pub, but when I returned to verify it I saw it entered as a separate title. Is there something I'm not getting? Zybahn 23:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry - I had entered the variant title but forgot to approve it on the moderator screen. That's done. I also stared at the bookseller listings for a while and decided it was likely the first printing was also titled "The Third..." rather than "The 3rd..." and so I renamed it and moved that publication to be filed under the "The Third..." title. Marc Kupper (talk) 01:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Zybahn, you had reported no price. Is there something like "3/6" "3S" or "80p" in the lower right corner of the front cover? This picture of book #2 is small but you can see a 3S in the area I mean. Thank you. Marc Kupper (talk) 08:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately there is no price whatsoever anywhere in, on or around the book. I just double-checked. Zybahn 23:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. I understand there's no price but is there anything at all on the front cover underneath the artwork? Marc Kupper (talk) 01:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I assure you Marc there is nothing. The only thing underneath the artwork is FONTANA BOOKS in white. I will gladly send you a photo if you wish. Zybahn 02:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Amazing - a priceless horror anthology! :-) No need for a photo. Marc Kupper (talk) 08:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

"Mother Thunder"

Just to let you know that Foster's "Mother Thunder" as published in The Metrognome and Other Stories in 1990 is a variant title of "Thunder Mother", which was first published in 1983 (note: 1983 as opposed to the submitted 1973) in Heroic Visions. Both publications have been verified and they titles are also listed in Contento (1983) and the Locus Index (1990), so it looks like everything is OK at the moment. I have added your synopsis to both Title records - thanks! Ahasuerus 06:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Cities of Wonder

Added a cover image to CTSFWNDRQN1967 --Bluesman 00:27, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

18 Greatest Science Fiction Stories - added cover/notation and submitted deletions

Morning! This. [1] . I matched my copy to your ver and added a cover, notation and deletions/corrections to contents. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Added artist credit

I added cover credit to your verified Berkley edition of Silverberg's BORN WITHE DEAD from signature.Don Erikson 17:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Added artist credit

I added cover credit for verified [2] from the book THE ART OF RICHARD POWERS by Jane Frank and made a note of it.Don Erikson 05:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Added date & note

I added the month to the date and noted it, to your verified [3].Don Erikson 18:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Robert Bloch's Psychos

Approved the submission for [this] and changed a couple of things. This is a book club edition. The ISBN prefix (56865) belongs to GuildAmerica, at that time parent company for the SFBC and other book clubs. This edition was not (from current information) offered by the SFBC, probably by one of the other clubs. The number on the back is a catalogue # placing the offering in either February or March 1998. It definitely would have been offered after the Pocket Books paperback edition. So I added "BCE" to the publisher, a generic we use when the specific book club is not known, changed the date to 1998 (can't put a month unless someone can come up with a club flier - Locus does not list this printing) and deleted the very last portion of the note (1998 April?) as the number itself has no date built in. FYI Thanks for editing! ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the info. Zybahn 04:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Behold the Man

I added the publication month, cover artist and notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 14:39, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan Willem H. 10:59, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Stranger in a Strange Land - added notation

Afternoon! This. [4]. I added notation and cover artist after matching my copy and cross checking the art with the tp. All in notes. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Disturb Not the Dream

Hi! Is the 1981[5] date the copyright or from the print date? One other question is the July 1982 "Printed in Canada" a 1st printing? If it is then the $3.95 probably reflects the price in Canadian dollars. I also change the Signet date to "0000-00-00" since the date for the 2nd printing is unknown as is our policy. Thanks!Kraang 02:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

True Tales of the Unknown, Volume III: Beyond Reality

I wonder if the copyright page is correct on the 1988 date? I've checked some book sites and can find no listing of a 1988 hc Doubleday edition and a web[6] page with a list of the authors works lists it as 1991. This would also predate the vol 2 in the series which is 1989. Thanks!Kraang 03:08, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I noticed the same & wondered. There is a note at the top of the copyright page: "This edition contains the complete text of the original hardcover edition. NOT ONE WORD HAS BEEN OMITTED." So there must have been a hardcover edition at some point. It is also possible the first two volumes are incorrectly dated. The acknowledgements and author notes yield little, except to say she began compiling the stories for the first volume in 1983. I wouldn't change the current date but would leave my comment in case it arises in the future. If not we can classify it as yet another True Tale of the Unknown. Zybahn 04:00, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

The Mask / Masque of the Red Death

Hi. Just double-checking.... Are you sure in your printing of Eight Tales of Terror it's "Masque" not "Mask"? In my second printing, it's definitely "Mask". Thanks. --MartyD 19:34, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey Marty. It's absolutely "Masque" in table of contents, story heading and top of each story page(though the blurb at the back reads "Mask"). The pagination is a little different in my copy too, off by a page for the intro & most stories as compared to other paginated printings in the database. Zybahn 20:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I approved your submission and removed "Mask" while I was at it. --MartyD 10:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

White Jade Fox

Rather than over-writing the existing publication, the third printing needs to have its' own record. I did a little digging and came up with an image and a first printing statement [click on the OCLC link]. Then created another record for the third printing. Even though it may still retain the first printing statement, that date applies only to that printing. Once the number line changes then the date becomes unknown, though some publishers will state each printing's date, Fawcett didn't usually. Thus the record for the third printing gets '0000-00-00' as a date [though it's likely still in '76, maybe '77]. Would there be any ads in the back that might help to narrow the date down a little? --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Apologies, I thought it was the same publication. There are no ads whatsoever or other such discerning items. The cover is correct, artist uncredited. I'll go verify. Zybahn 13:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Best New Horror 5

I reviewed your submission of the Carroll & Graf edition of Best New Horror 5 and noticed that the proposed content level data was almost the same as what was already available in the publication record for the 1994 Robinson edition. I then imported the Robinson contents into the Carroll & Graf record -- the process is described in Help:Screen:ImportContent -- and made one change to reflect the changed title of the introduction. This approach is much less time-consuming and error-prone than re-entering all Titles and then merging them manually, so I went ahead and rejected the original submission. When you get a chance, could you please review the updated record and check that everything looks OK? Thanks! Ahasuerus 04:36, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. Everything looks good. Zybahn 15:41, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

7th Year's Best SF, by Judith Merril

I have corrected the page number of the Jules Feiffer cartoon "Looking Backward" from p. 153 to p. 154 in your verified edition of this book. Chavey 04:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I've re-checked this and you are correct. Thanks for catching. Zybahn 04:02, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Universe 8

I changed the publication date of this verified pub from 1979-06-00 to 1979-07-00, and the accompanying note from Origin of pub date unknown (none on book). to Publication date from Locus #224 (August 1979) --Willem H. 13:29, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Christmas Crimes

This appears to be a selection of mystery stories from Ellery Queen and Alfred Hitchcock magazines. If most of the stories are not speculative fiction there should not be a record for the book in the database. If some of the stories are speculative stories, we can create records by adding their original magazine publications using the non-genre magazine method. I've kept the submission on hold until you confirm the nature of the contents. Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

You're probably right; aside from potential ghosts I don't think any of the stories are speculative. I noticed other C Manson anthologies in the database & thought it was an appropriate entry. Apologies. Zybahn 14:57, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
No problem. If Manson were an author with a prominent profile in the spec-fic field, we would include any anthologies she edited regardless of their genre, but we would not add any contents (stories in the anthology) that were not spec-fic. I'm sorry for the effort that you put into creating the submission without being aware of this policy. It's something each of us had to learn as we began working on the db. The definitions about what is "in" can be blurry at times! Thanks again for your contributions. Mhhutchins 16:16, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

In a Glass Darkly

Hi. I accepted your submission of In a Glass Darkly, but I changed it from Collection to Omnibus to match the title record's type. I also removed "World's Classics" as an imprint (from the Publisher info) and added "Oxford World's Classics" as the Publisher Series (which we already had in place). Thanks. --MartyD 11:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Red Skelton's Favorite Ghost Stories

I added a number sign (#) before the catalog number, per ISFDB standards. Please do a primary verification when you get a chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:06, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Canadian Tales of the Fantastic

Hi. I've put your submission of Canadian Tales of the Fantastic on hold while I check a couple of things with you:

  • It sounds as if you are working from the actual book, but you have listed the editor as "unknown". If the editor is not credited, you should use "uncredited" instead (see "Anonymous or uncredited works" in Help:Screen:EditPub#Author). We only use "unknown" when working from secondary sources that do not provide the information. Let me know if you agree it should be "uncredited".
  • The two "Foreward" essays: (a) Should these be spelled "Foreword" instead? (b) For "standard" generic content titles such as "Introduction", "Foreword", "Afterword", and so on, we include the title of the containing publication parenthetically to disambiguate multiple such pieces by the same author in different publications. E.g., "Foreword (Canadian Tales of the Fantastic)".

I will accept the submission and fix up these things once you confirm the way they should be -- no need to reenter anything. Thanks. --MartyD 11:26, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Marty, I am indeed working with the book, and the editor should be listed as "uncredited." As for the "Foreword" it is with an o (this is an unfortunate writing tic I have). As for the parenthetical title, I did know that, just forgot. Thanks for fixing my mess. Zybahn 14:27, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Not a mess at all. Very minor things. I accepted the submission and did the small fix-ups I cited above. The result is here for your reviewing and verifying. Thanks. --MartyD 15:01, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Hitchcock's Bar the Doors

Your submission adding a second printing of this title was entered under the wrong title record. It was entered under this title record because you cloned it from the 1946 printing. It should have been entered under this title record. You could have then imported the contents from the 1946 printing. You should also record in the note field the source of your data, unless you're doing a primary verification of the record. Your other verified record of this title doesn't have any contents. It's a good idea to enter the content titles before doing a primary verification, as this step indicates that the record is complete as possible. Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 04:00, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I actually did enter the contents & am waiting for the approval. I'm just doing things a little backwards since I'm learning as I'm entering. I'll enter source data in the future (sadly I own different editions of these Hitchcock books so it's usually a primary source). Zybahn 04:06, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I have accepted the submission. The next step is to merge the content records with existing db records. Are you familiar with this function? Mhhutchins 04:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
No I'm not familiar with merging contents. I'm still trying to find the "importing contents" info on the help pages. Can you help me out with a link? Zybahn 04:17, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
No problem, but first. Do the contents of the 1962 printing differ from the 1963 printing? Just checking to make sure. Mhhutchins 04:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
No, the contents & pagination are identical for all editions/printings. Moreover, I seem to have blundered elsewhere. One of the stories, McKnight Malmar's The Storm, now appears as three separate entries. Can I merge these somehow? Zybahn 04:24, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Before we straighten out the problem, I'm going to give you some important links. All of the Help pages are on the Wiki, so you must navigate from the database proper, by clicking on the link on every db page named ISFDB Wiki. (Right now, you're actually on the Wiki. This talk page is not part of the database itself.) This link leads you to the Main Page of the Wiki. You'll find a link named Help, which leads to a table of contents. The most useful link on this table is the How To... link which leads to a page of the most common tasks. Among these, you'll find a link on How to Merge Titles. The Import function is so simple that its Help page tells you less about what you're doing than when you're actually doing it. Please ask if you need further help. Mhhutchins 04:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Now to the problem. When you cloned the 1946 Dell printing, you transferred all of its contents to the new record, which was the record for the 1963 printing. Are these contents correct? Do you have a copy of the 1946 printing, and if so, are these contents correct? I'm assuming the contents of the 1962 printing are correct because you manually entered each of them. Just check to make sure. One last thing, are these the correct contents of the 1966 printing which were cloned from the 1963 printing? Mhhutchins 04:38, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
It looks like you may have omitted the last story {"The Book"} in the 1962 printing. This is the only difference I can find. Mhhutchins 04:49, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
All right, I've added "The Book" to the book. Thanks for all the help. At first the database seemed overwhelming but the more I use it the easier it becomes. All the contents & the pagination are correct & identical in each printing, only the covers change from edition to edition. I'll merge the different titles I created tomorrow, and will certainly ask if I get lost along the way. Good night. Zybahn 04:54, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Submission to accept the story was accepted...except the author and title were reversed. No problem, it can be straightened out tomorrow. Heaven knows I've done worse. Have a good night. Mhhutchins 05:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for persevering with us. You're already one of our Top 100 Contributors, many have dropped out before this stage! Hopefully you've noticed that you don't get the Nag-Screen on new submissions now, once you passed 100 contributions - you're no longer a newbie! BLongley 17:36, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Hahaha. Good thing I stopped when I did. The shape I was in that night I could've broken the internet. Thanks for the note of confidence, though I don't seem to have noticed a Nag-Screen. Zybahn 17:09, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
I went ahead and merged the title records (correcting the one I mentioned above.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
I noticed, thanks. I'll search for others. Zybahn 17:28, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

[unindent] One last (I hope) question about this title: what is your source that the ghost editor was Don Ward? If the source is reliable, we need to credit Ward by making a variant title record. Mhhutchins 17:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I see. While I can't give you a specific source, the information is correct. I've been researching these old anthologies (which I collect) & I publish all the information I gather at Casual Debris. Information that is not yet confirmed I post in red, while all else is confirmed. I haven't logged my sources though. Zybahn 18:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
It would be better to have a corroborating source, so for now, we'll just leave the info in the note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

"Shakedown" author credit in Canadian Tales of the Fantastic

While researching a proposed edit that would affect your verified Canadian Tales of the Fantastic, I noticed that Shakedown is credited to J. Paul Cooper, but on [his website], Scott Overton claims to be the author (with plenty of detail). I see you have Overton credited as the author of Goldfish, which he does not mention at all. I'm wondering if there's a bit of a mix-up in the credits. Thanks. --MartyD 10:35, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Evidently I got a couple of the authors mixed up. I've just fixed it & re-submitted. Thanks. Zybahn 14:21, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

H. G. Wells, "In the Days of the Comet", Airmont Classic

I'm cleaning up some of the "Airmont Publishing" (aka "Airmont Books") titles. They had two different publishing series of relevance to us: "Airmont Classics" and "Airmont SF". Many of the books from the Airmont Classics were entered as if that were the publisher, and I'm trying to correct those to "Airmont Books" publisher and "Airmont Classics" publication series. One such book is your verified "In the Days of the Comet". Would you mind if I changed that? Chavey 21:56, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Not at all. For the sake of accuracy, please go ahead. Zybahn 06:35, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

The Devil's Children

I've added an image to your Primary 2 verification of The Devil's Children. Nimravus 22:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

A Book of Strange Stories

Hi, I have added cover, artist and price to this verified pub. Cheers, P-Brane 05:24, 11 May 2012 (UTC).

Since the Note field currently says "Artist signature on left side of cover: "fax" all lower-case. No price indicated.", we may need to clarify where the price came from and change "fax" to "sax". Ahasuerus 05:47, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

"Christmas Ghosts", by Mike Resnick , Martin H. Greenberg

You are now the primary verifier for this publication. It appears to have been entered with an incorrect DAW Collectors Number of 993. Reading the cover image, with confirmation from WorldCat, it appears that the correct number should have been 933, and I have changed the publication record to reflect that. Chavey 19:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Apologies for the late reply. Yes the correct number is clearly 933 Zybahn 00:09, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Children of the Night

I added "#" to the catalog number in this record, so that the system doesn't confuse it with an ISBN (this is the ISFDB standard of entering catalog numbers). A question, the OCLC you linked to the record is for the 1968 printing, not this 1970 printing. You should only link matching records. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:38, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

A question: could the ISBN "0-586-02468-9" be somewhere in the book? By 1970 most of Panther's releases had ISBNs. Several internet catalogs have listings for this ISBN. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 00:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Good day. I did not link the OCLC though I should have removed when adding the info. I do believe the number is an ISBN but there is no clear indication. As with these Panthers there is little info on the copyright page. The number is not indicated anywhere else in the book. Zybahn 00:12, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. I looked back at the other 1970 Panther pubs and couldn't find one that actually linked to OCLC who only records ISBNs if they are stated in the actual pubs. It appears then that most of those 1970 Panther records got their ISBNs by "deriving" them from the catalog number, a practice I'm not particularly fond of, but that some editors like to use because it links the pubs to other online databases like Amazon and In the belief (probably in the minority) that we shouldn't be changing the data as presented in the publications for the sole purpose of linking to commercial websites, I'm going to leave your record as is. The purist in me overwhelms the capitalist. Thanks again. Mhhutchins 00:24, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
BTW, feel free to remove the OCLC link. I see it's already linked properly to the 1968 printing. Mhhutchins 00:24, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Closing unnumbered HTML list

Be sure to close an unnumbered list with </ul>, otherwise it wreaks havoc on the record display, and sometimes makes the handling of the submission impossible. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:53, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Silly me :) Zybahn 20:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

The Compleat Crow

I updated the notes of this record to indicate the source of the date of publication. (I also had to close the HTML list.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


Re: Starman
Adding cover image scanned from personal collection. Adding notes about artist being uncredited and printing edition.--Astromath 04:00, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Diving Deep - Gary McMahon

Hello, I've changed the author from Gary McMahan tp Gary McMahon in your verified pub. Hauck 14:27, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Dark Voices 4

Have replaced Amazon link with a scan here Prof beard 15:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Linking to cover images

We can't link to a website which hasn't given us permission to do so. Our records which links to an image file on another uses the bandwidth from that server to display it on our website, even if you don't click on it. Some websites frown on this practice and consider it theft of bandwidth. You have the option of linking to permitted websites (listed here) or uploading the image file to our server. I've linked the record to the image file on (which has given us implicit permission.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:21, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

There was a missing "$" in the price field so I added it. Also, is this book 7 inches (18 centimeters) or less? If it's larger it should be typed as "tp" (for trade paperback). Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:21, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Sometime, Never

Cover scan added to Sometime, Never.SFJuggler 02:53, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

"A Singular Quarry" by Ed Lacy

Is this story speculative fiction, i.e. horror, fantasy, or science fiction? Only the spec-fic stories in non-genre publications are eligible for the database. I'm holding your submission awaiting your response. Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I found a website which describes the story as "borderline science fiction", so I'll accept the submission. Mhhutchins 04:09, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

The story deals with the investigation of UFO sightings and related drama. Though its focus is private detective mystery, it pretty much [spoiler] claims that UFOs were indeed involve. I'll add a brief synopsis. Zybahn 01:31, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Alan Dean Foster's Alien Nation

Added a note regarding Canadian ISBN on cover to Alan Dean Foster's Alien Nation. You are listed as Primary reference. Doug 18:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark

I made some changes to the edition you verified based on my own copy. If you disagree, please let me know. --Vasha77 01:40, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Dark Voices #4

Added a slight amount of content to your verified Dark Voices #4. MLB 04:52, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

A Book of Strange Stories

Hi, I may have found your cover artist. You wrote in your notes that there is a signature that reads 'fax', all in lower case. It appears to be the signature of Sax, a.k.a Rudolf Michael Sachs. It is clearly not the signature of Fax.--Dirk P Broer 20:47, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

A Book of Strange Stories

The story "A Visit to Grandpa's" in this anthology is non-genre -- OK with you if I remove it? --Vasha 09:42, 5 July 2017 (EDT)

I have not yet read this one so cannot confirm either way. I don't mind of you remove the story, however. Zybahn 14:52, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

An Eye For an Eye: The Doll


Is the source of the Canadian price you are adding here a personal copy you are planning to verify or another source? Thanks! Annie 15:24, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

A personal copy. Zybahn 15:52, 7 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks. I updated the record after accepting your change to do two things:
* Move the OCLC number to the new External ID field.
* Standardize the lines in the Notes - we had one starting with • and one without and I was editing for the OCLC anyway so decided to clear it. As you are going to verify, feel free to reformat if you prefer another format.
Annie 15:57, 7 July 2017 (EDT)
Ok I've verified transient. Apologies for the formatting oversight; the other notes were already there & I just wasn't paying enough attention :( Zybahn 16:09, 7 July 2017 (EDT)
No worries at all :) It would not have hurt anything - as I said, I only fixed it because I was moving OCLC anyway. Annie 16:18, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Selecting a Ghost

You have "Selecting a Ghost" in your verified publication Ghost Stories as a novelette; if it is the same as this online text, it is a short story. In that case, please correct it. Thanks Vasha 18:21, 9 September 2017 (EDT)

Poe's Children

I removed the subtitle "An Anthology" from the title of Poe's Children: New Horror since such low-information subtitles are usually omitted here --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 16:12, 16 October 2018 (EDT)

Ordering Content on the Same Page

When multiple content appears on the same page, the order can be controlled via appending a "sorting" value to the page number. The details are at Template:PubContentFields:Page (under "Sorting"). For two stories on page 10, "10|10.1" would be displayed first and "10|10.2" would be displayed second and both would show "10" as the page number. Let us know if there are questions. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:50, 19 May 2019 (EDT)

Thanks, I finally got around to making the change. Zybahn 23:10, 28 May 2019 (EDT)
So I made the change to this record, and though the edits were accepted, the pages are all out of sorts. Zybahn 22:48, 31 May 2019 (EDT)
Ok I think I figured it out, & just submitted the updated edit request.Zybahn 22:50, 31 May 2019 (EDT)

Midnight cover art

Hi. I have added cover artist (Don Brautigam) to your verified, as per other printings. Cheers ! Linguist 04:54, 13 August 2019 (EDT).

A Book of Strange Stories

Cover artist of this is Sax, the elongated 'S' indeed looks like an 'f'. Horzel 16:17, 8 November 2019 (EST)

The Little Prince


As this is too short to be a novel (14K words when we need 40K), it is getting converted to a chapbook.Your verified had been changed. Thanks! Annie 14:14, 8 May 2020 (EDT)

The Sixteenth Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories

Hi Zybahn

I am adding a couple of external IDs to your verified copy of The Sixteenth Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories. You had the title as "The 16th Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories", which I see matches the cover title. Both Reginald3 and Worldcat spell out the number in the titles as "Sixteenth" which makes me think that it is probably spelled out on the title page. It doesn't look like you've made an edit here since April, so I'm going to go ahead and change the title as indicated. If you get back and can check the title page of your copy, and I am mistaken, please let me know, and I can change it back. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:33, 27 May 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. (Since the server change my password is no longer functional so i created a new account. I'll figure out how to merge it in a bit.) I own the book but it is currently boxed. I will verify once it is unboxed & confirm. CasualDebris (talk) 21:48, 8 October 2022 (EDT)

When adding synopses to title records

Hello, I have your submissions [7] and [8] on hold as you didn't mention the source of the Synopsis text (unless it's your own summary?). The rules text says, in part, that "A synopsis from another source like a blurb or a bibliographic note may be used, in whole or in part. If you do, enclose the text in quotes, state the source and include the date. An English synopsis should be quoted verbatim, while a non-English synopsis should be translated, following the original as closely as possible and identifying the exact source of the text and its language. Use an ellipsis ("...") for omitted text. Individual words may be replaced for clarity, with the replacement enclosed in square brackets ("[]"). "
If you're adding synopses, it's always a good idea to notify the moderator in the note to moderators field that it's your own synopsis - or alternatively, add synopsis per the rules cited above. Thanks! MagicUnk (talk) 06:11, 9 November 2022 (EST)

Good evening. Thanks for letting me know; I've been entering synopses over the last few months as I've been on a short story kick, & this is the first mention I've received. Rest assured all the synopses are my own, so please approve. I'll leave a note moving forward. Zybahn (talk) 23:25, 11 November 2022 (EST)
Thanks for the confirmation. Now approved! MagicUnk (talk) 14:56, 16 November 2022 (EST)

Christmas Ghosts; There are 3 PV, 1 gone for years, 1 PV a transient copy, you're the only active PV of a permanent copy, so I thought you'd like to know I made a bunch of adds/fixes which can be seen in my pending edit linked above; the only issue, possibly, is the cover artist, which is Ian, not Iain. So on the slim chance your copy says Iain and it wasn't just a mistake, let me know. --Username (talk) 19:40, 24 January 2023 (EST)

Please let me know what is decided here. I've placed this submission on hold pending the PV checking things. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:02, 11 April 2023 (EDT)
My copy is boxed. Once I access it I will have a look & let you know. Zybahn (talk) 19:39, 11 April 2023 (EDT)
Boxed, you say? What a shock. --Username (talk) 20:37, 11 April 2023 (EDT)
Not clear as to why this is so shocking. Zybahn (talk) 00:22, 12 April 2023 (EDT)
That was sarcasm. I've had so many PV tell me they can't check something because they're either moving or just finished moving and the work in question is boxed or something similar. After nearly two-and-a-half years here I think I'm finally coming to the end due to both site-related and personal issues and am finding it harder and harder to hide my true feelings. Don't take it personally; I see that this is the only message I've ever left on your board so whatever problems I've had here didn't involve you. --Username (talk) 00:33, 12 April 2023 (EDT)

The Sixteenth Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories.

Just added the cover credit for The Sixteenth Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories. MLB (talk) 00:27, 29 June 2023 (EDT)

Anthology of Horror Stories;; Artist is Les Edwards. Art was re-used and flipped. --Username (talk) 13:51, 17 September 2023 (EDT)