User talk:Zinnia

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A Favor for a Fiend

Hello, I've approved your submission with a few changes: 1) added currency symbol (I supposed USD), 2) deleted PubSeriesNum (redondant with SeriesNum), 3) changed format to tp as per dimensions given by amazon. The result is here. Hauck 17:47, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Initials

When submitting author names with initials, they should be entered with a space after the period. So for example, "R.S. Pyne" would be entered as "R. S. Pyne". I have made the necessary corrections in In a Cat's Eye. We do appreciate your submission. ISFDB has some conventions that need learning, but everything should be in the help links in the welcome message above. We hope you will continue to contribute. And please let us know if you have any questions (ISFDB:Help desk is a good resource for asking). -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:12, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, please have an eye on that. There were some (E.T.A. Hoffmann, for example) whose names had to be corrected for Swords & Steam Short Stories. For this anthology, there now has to be done some merging for previously published fiction. Do you know how it's done? Stonecreek 04:48, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Couldn't find Stonecreek's talk page to reply, so hope this is another good way to do so. Thanks, Stonecreek, for the info that users will have to be merged. Sorry! I don't know how to do that (and will look on the help pages.) I'll do better next time. Zinnia 01:22, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

The Dragon's Hoard

Hi. I accepted your submission adding The Dragon's Hoard, but I have also found a second submission for what looks like the same anthology, which I have on hold. There are a few differences in the proposed contents, plus some additional page numbers. Are these two different editions of the same book, or two submissions for information about the same book? If the latter, then you should propagate any changes from your other submission into that (and cancel the other submission). If they're different, that's fine, and I will accept the held one. Some of the differences I notice:

• "When the Next Wind Blows" credited to H. Holt vs. K. I. J Anderson
• additional "Mosaic" by K. L. J. Anderson on p. 71
• page numbers for things prior to p. 120

I'm guessing these are the same, and there's a correction to be made to When the Next Wind Blows (plus the addition of "Mosaic")? If that's the case, you can change both, and add the page numbers, by clicking on the publication link I gave at the top and using Edit This Pub. In there, you can work with all of the contents, so supply the page numbers, change the authorship of "When the Next Wind Blows" to H. Holt, and add another content title for "Mosaic". If you need any help, just ask. If my guess is right but you'd rather I made the changes, let me know. Thanks. --MartyD 12:09, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have told you to respond here. The community has settled on keeping entire conversations on one talk page, with the poster responsible for watching for responses. So to answer your follow-up questions:

• Question, because I did forget Mosaic in the TOC the first time, and entered it at the bottom of the entries when I updated. Is there a problem entering TOC contents out of order? (If so, how do I make it right?...)

No, there is no problem entering them out of order. The display sorts by page number (and has some clever handling for roman-numeral pages that appear before arabic-numeral pages). The page number mechanism also allows you to provide sorting hints (which can be used to override/augment sorting by page numbers and to force sorting in publications that have no page numbers at all).

• Also: the poem is on an unnumbered page, and it looks as though I've forgotten the page number. Should I make a note of that?

Yes, noting it is on an unnumbered page at location X is a good idea. But you can probably also give it a page number, depending on where it appears. If it's between other numbered pages, you can just give it the appropriate page number (e.g., if there were a page numbered "1", followed by an unnumbered page with the poem, followed by a page numbered "3", you'd just assign it "2"). If it's before the page numbering starts or after the page numbering ends, you can count backward/forward and put the resulting number in brackets (e.g., if the first page number is "9" and the poem appears on an unnumbered page before that, you could use "[8]").

More details and examples are available in Help:Screen:EditPub#Page. Please ask if anything is unclear. Also, don't be afraid to make your best guess and submit a change -- use the Note to the Moderator to explain what you're trying to do and what you're unsure of, and whoever handles the submission will be able to help you out. --MartyD 15:03, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks, Marty. I went ahead and entered the page number for the poem. I think that answers all the questions on this pub. (And it looks like it's been moderated already! I will be glad to put it back on my shelf! (Appreciate all your help. ) Zinnia 18:42, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Swords and Steam

I made some changes to Swords and Steam after you added it. I've been going through all the 2016 short fiction and adding the length of all the stories -- you could've done the same pretty easily since the stories only appearing in this collection are under 10 pages, meaning they're "short story" for sure.

But that wasn't what I wanted to mention. You made new title records for stories that are already in the database, and I merged them. Have you ever tried doing that? How it works is, you go into the title record, and at the bottom of the editing tools, click "Check for Duplicate Titles". It'll bring up a list of titles you can select to merge-- make sure they're really the same, with the same type, and no notes saying "do not merge".

Two ways to add stories that are already in the DB to anthologies: one is to create the anthology, then import titles to it; the second is what I described, make new titles in the anthology contents and then merge. I think the second way is somewhat easier but it can sometimes lead to overlooking existing records.

Hope this helps... --Vasha 01:22, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Swords and Steam Short Stories

Zinnia, You recently verified this 2016 anthology P605588, whose contents list recently includes (page 116):

Undine • (1909) • novella by Baron Friedrich de La Motte Fouqué (trans. of Undine: Eine Erzählung 1811) [as by Friedrich De La Motte Fouque]

Recently one novella in the database is

• "Undine • (1909) • by Friedrich De La Motte Fouque" (text not identified)

with 6 publications in 4 chapbooks and 2 anthologies. In progress today I unmerge and update as two novellas:

• Undine • (1909) • by de La Motte Fouqué (translated by W. L. Courtney) T2194459
• Undine • (2002) • by Friedrich De La Motte Fouque (translated by F. E. Bunnett) T174560

Two of the chapbooks contain the former (1909, 2013) and two contain the latter (2002, 2005), which I might arrange in the database records today.

As yet I don't know that either 1909 or 2002 is the date of the translation, only its first publication that I know to be in the database.

How does the anthology adequately identify its version? (I understand the database does not distinguish d/D or e/é but there are word and hyphen "pseudonyms" for this writer.) --Pwendt|talk 19:10, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Pwendt: Apologies for not responding sooner. I have not been back to the database in a while. Regarding Swords and Steam: I'm looking at the antho now. From the source list in the back of the book, the publisher writes, "Originally published by Hitzig, 1811." I hope this helps. (I'll try to do better about finding reprints when I enter my anthos.) Zinnia 22:23, 7 June 2017 (UTC)Zinnia

The Gunpowder Review

Hello, I've approved your submission but had to make some changes to conform to our standards:

• set the date to "2011-10" as the copyright page states "Published in October 2011".
• as it's a non-genre magazine, I've changed the EDITOR to "Editors of The Gunpowder Review".
• I've set the format to tp a bit by default as per amazon data. As you state that you own a copy, you may be able to precise its format better than my guess.
• added cover artist as per copyright page.
• uploaded a scan.

The result is here, please take some time to submit more complete/researched submissions in the future. Hauck 04:35, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

Gallery of Curiosities / Curiosities #2

Hi, I had to tweak your submission a bit to fit our standards, especially the magazinical part of it, since we had the previous issue in the database. Please take some time for research on the matter. Thanks, Stonecreek 04:03, 18 April 2018 (EDT)