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Welcome!

Hello, TerokNor, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! MHHutchins 22:04, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Timothy Zahn's Blackcollar

I'm holding your submission updating this pub as it appears that the ISBN is actually assigned to another title (Resonance by Chris Dolley according to OCLC, Amazon and abebooks.com). Also you've changed it to an omnibus, but have only entered one novel as its contents. Does this pub include another novel (other than The Backlash Mission)? Thanks. MHHutchins 22:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Replacing cover scans

Hello, I approved your submission identifying PAJ as the illustrator of this pub. It's customary to inform the primary verifier of this modification as per their demand, see here. Hauck 12:27, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Panther and Granada handling

Hi. I accepted your Dying Earth submission. In answer to your question about the publisher, when you see something like Panther Books over Granada, Granada is usually the publisher, with Panther being the imprint (often, the "imprint" might have been an independent publisher at some point, bought by the current publisher, with the brand name maintained). We record this using <imprint> + space + / + space + <publisher>. E.g., Panther / Granada. I made that change and put the information from your note to the moderator into the publication notes. Please feel free to adjust what I wrote to reflect reality. :-) A handy trick I've learned for dealing with publishers and imprints is when you're on one of the ISFDB pages, you can choose "Publisher" in the search box at the left, and then look for the names you see (e.g., Panther or Granada). That will give you some ideas about what others have entered. --MartyD 12:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Some of your submissions

Hi, I have your submission on hold to add How Old Holly Came To Be to 'The Kingkiller Chronicle' series, while both the author's blog ("Yes, my story is set in the Four Corners world") and the anthology's page speak of another series. Have you other or additional Information?

Also, I rejected your submission to add Michael J. Sullivan's The Jester to the series 'The Riyria Universe' and put it instead into the sub-series 'The Riyria Chronicles'. Else it would have been somewhat freefloating within the 'Universe'.

Similar case for Peter V. Brett's Mudboy: the proper (sub-)series is 'Demon Cycle', again as per the anthology page.

Apart from these few 'complaints' you helped very much in keeping track of the various author's cycles and series. Thanks for that! Stonecreek 03:47, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

I found your hint about the Kingkiller/Four Corners series and approved of your submission. Thanks for clearing things! Stonecreek 13:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Terry Brooks' "Paladins of Shannara" chapterbooks

I accepted you submission of Alannon's Quest and moved the source information you provided in the notes to the moderator the the publication notes instead. If data does not come first hand from the publication itself, we record the source(s) in the notes so that anyone looking at the record can tell where it did come from. While I was at it, I made a new Shannara Universe sub-series, Paladins of Shannara, and placed the novelette in it.

The same goes for The Weapons Master's Choice and The Black Irix. The latter had a copy-paste problem, reusing the former's Amazon link; I changed that. I also added links to the cover images on Amazon, while I was at it.

Please review. Thanks. --MartyD 12:19, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Stirling's Emberverse

I have rejected your submission to put this story into the Emberverse series. There are two sub-series, Emberverse I and Emberverse II, and according to the author's site it belongs into the first. So I've put it into that one. Thank you again for keeping an open eye. Stonecreek 17:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Ann Leckie's Ancillary Sword

Since October 2014 is still 6+ months in the future, I am afraid I will have to reject the submission. There is a very good chance that something will change between now and October -- publication date, cover art, perhaps even the ISBN. Typically, we enter forthcoming ISBNs 6 to 10 weeks before publication when things are more settled. Ahasuerus 19:33, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Linking split novels

Well, the best way to link would be to link/variant both titles to the original one, just like for the first german publication of Perdido Street Station, which was split into Die Falter and Der Weber. Stonecreek 05:00, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Cover: A Princess of Mars

Cover art credits that are identical (same publication title, same artist credit, same artwork) should be merged not varianted. Varianting is only used if the title or artist credit vary, but the artwork is the same. I have rejected your submission to variant the this cover art and have instead merged it. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:39, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Series and Variant Titles

When adding a title series, please ensure you add it to the parent record and not a variant. If you add it to the parent, it will automatically be displayed on any variants. I had to reject your edit, but I added "The Expanse" to the parent record. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:01, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Sources in the Note field

Re this record: The URL for the source should be given in the "Note" field, not the "Note to Moderator" field. All data entered into the latter field disappears the moment the submission is accepted, because its purpose is to provide information concerning the submission itself, and not about the publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:06, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

You continue to enter source information in the "Note to Moderator" field. You should enter the URL in the "Note" field as explained above. I will hold all submissions until you've had a chance to read this message and respond to it. Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 18:36, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about that. I was thinking that because URLs can change just mentioning the name of the source in the "Note" field was enough, with the actual URL additionally given in the "Note to Moderator" field for double-checking. Also, links to Deutsche Nationalbibliothek are generated automatically via the ISBN if I see this right. Can you confirm I should put the link to DNB in the "Note" field? How about Amazon as the other main source I use? Thanks. TerokNor 20:02, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
You don't have the give the URL at all if you give the source in the Note field. If you choose to give the URL, you also have the option to link it, but that's not required. You don't have to link Amazon (or any website listed in the "Other Sites" menu of a publication record), because all records with ISBNs are automatically linked to those sites. For non-ISBN publications, it's a good idea (but not required) to link the source in the Note field. Giving the URL in the Note to Moderator field isn't necessary and it disappears upon acceptance. If there is something unusual about the submission which you feel the moderator should know (but don't want to be visible in the publication record), then state it in the Note to Moderator field. Also, if you find it necessary to ask questions, don't use the Note to Moderator field to ask it. Questions should be asked in a message posted at the ISFDB:Help_desk. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:35, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Duplicates

You created records for some publications which are already in the database. (This one for example.) I will delete the duplicates. Please do a search before making a submission to create a new record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:44, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Binding

If you're adding publications from a secondary source, you can get the bindings from their listings on Amazon. It will usually give whether it's a hardcover or paperback. For paperback listings, you have to look further at the dimensions in the publication data of the listing. If it's more than 7 inches or 18 centimeters, a paperback should be entered as "tp". I've updated this on most the records you've entered today, but keep this in mind when adding any future records. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:48, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

You can also use Amazon to provide the publication date. I wouldn't suggest using them for anything older than 2000. Mhhutchins 20:58, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Series and Variant Records

Thanks for removing the series data from those variant records, but anytime that a record is a variant of another record in a series, that series data will be displayed in all of the variant titles as well. So adding series data to variants would be redundant and have both titles to be displayed on the series list. (This was mentioned in an earlier post by another moderator.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:37, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Euro character

Please use € (entered as ALT-0128) to indicate publications priced in euros. Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:45, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Changing the type of a publication

When you see that a publication has been entered under the wrong type, e.g. NOVEL should be COLLECTION, you have to change the type field of both the publication record and its title record. I've done that for you here. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:42, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Pseudonyms and variants

These are two different functions. The creation of pseudonyms only affect author records. The creation of variants only affect title records. So when you do one of these you have to follow up by doing the other. The titles under Bernard Craw and James A. Sullivan will have to be varianted to the parent author. (BTW, you don't have to wait for acceptance of a submission to do one in order to do the other.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Entering euros in the price field

There should not be a space between the currency symbol and the amount. If the currency is in a non-symbolic or abbreviated alphabetical form, a space is necessary. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:01, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Amazon.de good source for data on recent publications

If you're looking for publication date or prices (and to link a cover image) for recent German publications, a good source is Amazon.de. (I don't recommend using it for publications more than a decade old.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:53, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Pseudonyms and variants again

As noted above, when you create a pseudonym, you have to also variant all of the titles under that pseudonym to the canonical author. Please proceed to variant the four titles by Jacob Ben Gunter to Peter David. If you're certain that it's a correct pseudonym,(you wouldn't make a submission to do so otherwise), you can do the variant submissions without waiting for moderation of the pseudonym submission. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:47, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Die Star Wars Saga

Please add content records for the novels contained in this publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:42, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Still waiting for the contents to be added to this OMNIBUS publication. This type of publication requires that at least one content record be a NOVEL. I suspect that there are the three original novelizations of the first Star Wars trilogy, but I'd have to research to determine the translated titles of each. You should be able to do it easier than me. Mhhutchins 01:04, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and added contents. Please correct any errors if present. Mhhutchins 04:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Entering contents of an OMNIBUS

Same problem as above with this record. When you enter an OMNIBUS, you must enter content records for each of the NOVELs which it contains. Mhhutchins 00:09, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Publication dates from secondary sources

I added the publication date to this record sourced from Amazon.de. For books published within the last decade Amazon is a good source for the publication date. Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:43, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Feist - Magician

Replaced cover art for this book with full wraparound version. And I'm that much of a nerdy fan that I know that Terok Nor is the Cardassian name for Deep Space Nine. --Mavmaramis 08:51, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness

Can you confirm that the author credit and ISBN-13 stated in this record is present in the publication itself? The author credit should be from the title page, and the ISBN-13 (all digits) must be given on the copyright page. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 01:19, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes on both. I left a moderator note on the pub submission regarding the name, and the ISBN is indeed 13 digits on the copyright page. This is the currently in-print UK edition. TerokNor 09:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
But did they really didn't change the reprint history, which seems to end in 1992? Stonecreek 14:42, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
They didn't. It looks to me like they only introduced number lines with the 1992 edition, abandoning the old printing history. Compare this record for example. TerokNor 17:17, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Now it all makes sense. I know that a 1992 printing wouldn't have an ISBN-13. Perhaps a note of clarification is needed? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:25, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
One last thing: which of the two Tim White covers for this work is used in this printing? Once you've determined that, please merge your coverart title record with the correct one. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I modified the note and have already merged the covers. TerokNor 11:47, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Shadow of Intent

Hello, I've added the corresponding novella to your submission. A CHAPBOOK must have a content (exactly one SHORTFICTION title). Hauck 14:41, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Van Richten's Guide to Ghosts

Re this title: Changing the type of a title has no effect on the type of the publication. So it would have been better to update the publication record and you could have edited the types of both. I've updated the publication. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Mhhutchins|talk 00:27, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

"Wax and Wayne" sub-series

I have your "Wax and Wayne" sub-series submissions on hold. It looks ok to me, but since the change affects verified publications, it's the sort of thing one should ask the primary verifiers about first. I've posted a note to the verifiers here. Once they give their OK, I'll accept those submissions. BTW, it looks like it would be nice to figure out a sub-series name for that first trilogy, too. I didn't see anything obvious on Sanderson's site, though. --MartyD 12:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Perry Rhodan and Perry Rhodan NEO universes

Thanks for the suggestion, but we came to the verdict that they are separate universes, at least as long as no one writes a connecting story. The difference to other universes is that Star Trek or Star Wars subseries are just separated by time gaps, not by a different occurence of events and somewhat different main characters. So, as long as you have no additional information, it seems the universes are mutually exclusive by logic. Stonecreek 13:30, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

That's not really the case with Star Trek/Star Wars. Star Wars for example has all material published before 2014 now classified as "Legends", with new books overwriting the old stories. Star Trek has had a large novel-only continuity since about 2001, but books are published that are not compatible with it all the time, like a tie-in to the Star Trek Online game, or the "Crucible" trilogy. The difference to PR is that all those tie-in books still adhere to the continuity of the original films and/or TV shows, so it's not quite the same situation. Still my point remains - listed under one main series are stories that are incompatible with each other and tell different versions of the same events. It also feels somehow "wrong" to me to have no connection between different incarnations of the same franchise (for lack of a better word) in the database. TerokNor 14:23, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Still the owner of the Perry Rhodan franchises keeps the two series as independent. As stated above: this may change somewhen in the future. By all logic applied now and here, they are different. There ain't no connection as one universe being a legend in the other, as in Star Wars; there's only a similarity in name. Stonecreek 14:36, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

The Returned

Hello, I've approved your submission but choose (as per data that you gave) to take the simplest route, i.e. to treat each book as a standalone novel (you gave a word count of 50.000) a bit along the lines of what was done for this split novel. It will be time later if the whole text appears in one book either to make it an OMNIBUS or to variant the parts to the whole (as is made for translated works) or to go the SERIAL route (I'm not very fond of that, as SERIAL being usually for magazine publication). Result is here for the first one. Hauck 09:48, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Introductions

When entering essays with generic titles (Introduction, Preface, Forward, etc.), the publication title should be added afterwards in parenthesis. I approved your edit to Apollo's Daughters, but changed the introduction title to "Introduction (Apollo's Daughters)". Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:41, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Just to be sure, can you confirm that this text is a fiction one (its title may indicate an essay). Thanks. Hauck 12:48, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Boten des Lichts

Hello. Re your update of this pub : I have replaced the cover scan you provided (with a very poor definition) by a better one. Thanks, Linguist 09:48, 29 August 2016 (UTC).

Mann zweier Welten

Hello, I've approved your submission for this publication. I'm surprised that the flags for "Nongenre" and "Graphic format" are set to "yes". Is this deliberate? Hauck 10:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

That was not deliberate. I don't know how those got there. I don't see them checked on the submission page when I go back in my browser history. TerokNor 10:46, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
There was a recent change for this fields, likely a side-effet. I'll correct the title data. Hauck 10:55, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Dark Run

Hello, I've approved your submission for this new novel but changed publisher to "Karen Traviss" as per copyright page. As I've understood it, we decided to stop using "CreateSpace" as it's just the printer and make the author the publisher. Hauck 18:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Die dunkle Seite des Mondes

Hello, I've approved your submission but was wondering if we should variant the cover to this one or just add a note? What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 10:42, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

Interesting, nice find. First thought: I would have no problem with making it a variant. But: what if the background is from a different cover that might also be in the database? That would complicate things. So maybe a note is enough. TerokNor 18:48, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Star Wars

Hello TerokNor, here is the title with "Star Wars" other pubs are without this, can we delete this term "Star Wars"? It belongs not to the title. Please look at the discussion Blanvalet and Star Wars --Wolfram.winkler 05:51, 5 July 2017 (EDT)

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