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This Case Is Gonna Kill Me variant

Hi Susan. I have a make variant submission on hold. The note and date are different, but the author credit and the title text are the same for both. I don't quite understand what you're trying to do, so I'm not sure what to suggest. Tell me more, and I'll see if I can help. Thanks. --MartyD 08:10, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

I was told NOT to merge these re-edited/re-released but to variant them. Susan O'Fearna 16:27, 7 September 2020 (EDT)

Susan, as I said in this conversation, variant titles are for the same work under a different title and/or author credit. They are not for variations in the work itself. Either the work is close enough to be considered the same and they should be merged (with an optional title note regarding the re-editing) or they are considered different enough that they should be left separate works with title notes explaining the differences. Again, variant title means a variation in the title credit, not the work. The database has no way of capturing differences between two identical credited (title & author) works other than notes. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:54, 7 September 2020 (EDT)

I'd like to add that the practice is that if identical titles are different enough (after extensive rewrite or re-edit) so that they are considered different works, they are not merged nor varianted, but this explained in title notes, wih a DO NOT MERGE all-caps statement added. MagicUnk 20:04, 7 September 2020 (EDT)

k Susan O'Fearna 22:22, 7 September 2020 (EDT)

Proposed Wikiworld merge

Hi. I have your proposed Wikiworld merge submission on hold. I am rather doubtful that's correct. It's hard to tell because I can't find it on Amazon, but the ebook collection record from the same publisher less than a year later shows a $9.99 price and claims to have had a stated page count of 325. The chapbook record, however, has a price of $0.99, and the cover image shows the different "SHORT FICTION FROM CZP" banner at the bottom. See also Google Books, which claims the ISBN for the chapbook is only 25 pages. It looks to me like there's probably a chapbook and a collection, both with the same title and basic cover image, and these should be kept separate (perhaps with an additional note). What do you think? --MartyD 08:32, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

after more research, even though the same cover image was the same and the title was the same, one of those was a promotional release of just the title story and was only available for a short time, so I canceled the merge. Thanks! Susan O'Fearna 16:29, 7 September 2020 (EDT)

Valor's Choice

Hello,

I have this one on hold. Either it is from later than 2000 or it should have ISBN-10 :) Or is it the original 2000 one just updated to add the new ISBN? I will approve it and correct based on your answer. Thanks! Annie 23:16, 11 September 2020 (EDT)

I actually need to change the date to 2019-01 or 0000-00 ... I got it as part of the Bundoran Budies StryBundle... Susan O'Fearna 00:10, 12 September 2020 (EDT)

Approved (here), changed per your notes and added the original ebook as well (here). Feel free to edit yours a bit more if needed :) Annie 00:33, 12 September 2020 (EDT)

Thanks! Susan O'Fearna 21:07, 12 September 2020 (EDT)

The Hidden City

Can you check these two again? They are variant-ed to VERY different covers so do not appear to be the same image. Thanks! Annie 04:24, 13 September 2020 (EDT)

Same for this one? Annie 05:50, 13 September 2020 (EDT)

One of those doesn't work and I cancelled the other one because they are quite different. Thanks Susan O'Fearna 21:12, 13 September 2020 (EDT)

Yep - the second one was a duplicate of the first - I rejected it later in the day when I realized it is the same. As you are the only one that sees these interior arts when you submit them, please check again any of these variants and merges post submission - we cannot merge based on a title only. :) Thanks! Annie 21:27, 13 September 2020 (EDT)

also, tradingcarddb.com has many of the cards if you ever want to see them Susan O'Fearna 21:29, 13 September 2020 (EDT)

Narrator template

Hi Susan. Just wanted to let you know that it is best to use the {{narrator|name}} template in the notes of audio-books. That way, when we eventually have support for narrator (and translator and...), coversion will be easy. Regards, MagicUnk 15:12, 21 September 2020 (EDT)

THANKS Susan O'Fearna 01:01, 22 September 2020 (EDT)

Ride the Star Winds

Hello Susan. Re. This conversation. There are now two COVERART records for Ride the Star Winds. In addition, there's no explanation that clarifies that the book credits Stephen Hickman, but that he confirms that the art is not by him, and that Allan Pollack's website sports this piece of art. I am assuming that the tp edition does exactly say that, yes?
Could you remove the erroneous title record for this particular publication record? And also, could you update the notes to clarify the source of the cover art credit? I will also point MLB to here. Regards, MagicUnk 13:48, 22 September 2020 (EDT)

OH, goodie now I can clean that up and make notes :) Susan O'Fearna 15:08, 22 September 2020 (EDT)

Sirens

I approved your submission for importing content for Sirens, but you need to redate two of the pieces of artwork to the date of this pub. Bob 15:49, 26 September 2020 (EDT)

If you could tell me WHICH 2? Susan O'Fearna 03:43, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

this one and this one (they pinged on another one I approved a few minutes ago - no way to find them unless you look in an existing submission (approved or not)) but Willem already got them so we are all good. Annie 13:45, 28 September 2020 (EDT)

Varianting 'Der Marsmagier'

Hello Susan, I have this submission on hold as I believe the varianting should be the other way around. The COVERART for Hunting the Snark and Other Short Novels is for a later date, so that one should be varianted to Der Marsmagier. Or am I not seeing something obvious here? Regards, MagicUnk 08:04, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

it was originally a comic book cover... whatever order you think should be would be great Susan O'Fearna 08:10, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

In that case I would variant the English to the German title, and make a note that it was originally a comic book cover. I've done that for you. Have a look here. Regards, MagicUnk 10:33, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

cool, thanks Susan O'Fearna 10:35, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

Galaxie (1ère série), #49

I have rejected this submission, as the English-titled cover art should not be imported in a French publication. Rather, add a new cover art record to Galaxie (1ère série), #49 December 1957, and then variant that French-titled cover art to the English original (same approach as for the UK edition). Regards, MagicUnk 08:04, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

Thanks Susan O'Fearna 08:09, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

Same for this submission (I've corrected it). Regards, MagicUnk 11:05, 27 September 2020 (EDT)

Looks fixed, thanks Susan O'Fearna 14:31, 28 September 2020 (EDT)

Amazon images

While adding the images in our DB is not a problem, let's try not to put wrong and misleading information in the moderator notes, especially when there are new-ish editors as PVs.

• Amazon's ISBN-based links (links that end in /P/ISBN.jpg) are indeed unstable - Amazon links to the latest image for this ISBN.
• Amazon's Image-based links (links that end in /I/random_string.jpg) never change (or I am yet to see them change anyway). Amazon can change what image a book points to (and they do that a lot when there is a new edition) but the image itself, once created, does not change. This is why we want these images - but the older the book is, the more likely is that we have a /P/ image for it linked in the DB.

The last few you replaced are all from the /I/ domain (and matching perfectly). Which if you feel like doing and you are sure of the covers, you are welcome to. :) But just wanted to send a clarification on which images are getting changed :) Hope that makes sense. Annie 15:47, 28 September 2020 (EDT)

the P images just started disappearing but the others keep CHANGING so the cover art credit is incorrect ... Susan O'Fearna 14:45, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

Cover dates

Hello again,

When you are importing a cover, can you please pay attention to the warnings by the system about dates? I had been updating dates while approving your imports in the last days but it will be really nice if someone does not always need to finish the updates - the system throws a yellow warning so when you see that, can you just submit an edit for the date of the cover :) Thanks! Annie 12:20, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

Where do I see the yellow warning? Susan O'Fearna 14:42, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

After you press submit, it shows up on the screen for you down on the line next to "Auto Merge" - see this one for example. :) Annie 14:48, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

4778524 TitleUpdate 2020-09-29 15:36:18 Ofearna Bad Moon Rising Cancel submission

4778523 ImportExport 2020-09-29 15:35:47 Ofearna Bad Moon Rising Cancel submission

SO is this the way to fix it? Susan O'Fearna 15:37, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

Yes :) Perfect! Thanks! Annie 15:39, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

Jokes Without Punchline

Hello Susan. I've your submission on hold as I'd like to ask where you got the updated date 1995-06-03 from for this publication?

https://www.harlanellisonbooks.com/product/jokes-without-punchlines-white-wolf-3-june-1995/ Susan O'Fearna 16:49, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

Also, an FYI, when changing a title date make sure to also update the pub date and the date of any contents records. This is easiest done by editing the pub record (and not the title record) in many cases because then you can change the date of the pub record, the title record and contents title records in one go, instead of having to submit two or more edits (especially important to remember when updating the date for COLLECTIONs and ATHOLOGYs). Regards, MagicUnk 16:20, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

I usually wait for one to be approved before changing the other; thanks Susan O'Fearna 16:49, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

Thanks, Susan! Accepted and pub updated accordingly. And there's no need to do a date update by submitting multiple edits. Saves work for both of us :) (for title records with multiple pubs there's no choice, you'll have to update each record separately). Also, for these kinds of submissions, it's advisable to provide the source the information came from, preferably in the pub Notes field (and web links in the web page multifield), like I did here here. Makes it easy for a moderator to approve the edit. Regards, MagicUnk 17:43, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

Thanks... I'm going to wrap up today and go home sick -- my eyes HURT after annual eye exam -- so much for mooning over my new Zenna Henderson story or anything else! Susan O'Fearna 17:45, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

The Neil Gaiman Reader: Selected Fiction

So are the excerpts here called "Excerpt of XX" on their title pages? If not, we have a somewhat different policy for naming these... Annie 02:44, 14 October 2020 (EDT)

Got all the contents added and page #s for the physical copies... not sure if the short from Royal Mint for "Mythical Creatures" should be added or just like this here Susan O'Fearna 21:57, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

If it is a separate story, then it should be added I think. How short is short? Annie 23:37, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

I'll scan it... Susan O'Fearna 03:57, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

Sorry to butt in, but I have a question/observation; near the end of this collection, there's a slight difference in the ordering compared to the ToC listed for the UK ebook. I think it's a page number issue, as there are two items listed as starting on page 571, which seems unlikely given one is a novelette and the other a short story? The order per the contents page of that ebook is:

- ... all same until ...

- The Sleeper and the Spindle

- A Calendar of Tales

- Nothing O'Clock

- A Lunar Labyrinth

- Down to a Sunless Sea - appears after "The Sleeper and the Spindle" in ISFDB

- How the Marquis Got His Coat Back

- ...The same from this point on...

The order of the stories shown in this edit has Down to a Sunless Sea after A Lunar Labyrinth, which further makes me think that the page number was wrong. (Copypaste duplication maybe? God knows I've done that sort of thing often enough...) Unfortunately there are no page numbers shown in the Kobo preview, so I can't fix it, at least not to the exact value.

(I spotted this whilst cross checking that ebook's contents to see if it was safe to clone it from the physical - whilst I'm prepared to spend a few minutes doing this check, I'm afraid I was far too lazy to go to the effort you did in actually transcribing all the contents into the database in the first place ;-) ErsatzCulture 06:49, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

Saga Press vs. Saga Press / Gallery

Hello Susan. You've PV'd A Longer Fall. In light of this discussion, would you be OK with checking the copyright page, and thus converting the publisher to just Saga Press? Thanks! MagicUnk 06:29, 14 October 2020 (EDT)

Perfect - it was already here when I verified it so I didn't change it Susan O'Fearna 12:12, 14 October 2020 (EDT)

Jainas Flucht and a request

Hello Susan, I have your submission on hold as there's no source given for your change so can't approve this one as-is. Also, since the pub this COVERART belongs to is PVd, you have to check in with the PV (Welo) first to confirm whether or not the coverart is actually credited to Cliff Nielsen in this German pub (I think it is). If so, then it should not be updated to Steven D. Anderson, but rather to 'Cliff Nielsen (in error)', and then variant to the actual artist - provided you clearly indicate the source of the correction, preferably in the pub record itself.

Onto my request: you are doing great work, but can you add the source of the corrections you are making please? Either into the Note to Moderators field (eg. something like 'from other PVd record' would already do wonders ;)), or, in the actual pub Note field if the data is from secondary sources (eg. 'Artist from xyz'). The latter is especially important since otherwise we have no trace where the information is coming from (and adding (secondary) data source(s) is mandatory anyway). I know it's a little more work, but this would be improving the data traceability greatly, and would really help out the approving moderators. Thanks! MagicUnk 15:32, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

1) Welo is gone, so I *can't* check with the PV but I did check with the artists - Cliff Nielsen said it's not his and Stephen Anderson says it *is* ... so I guess we can leave it as it is since the PV is AWOL Susan O'Fearna 15:47, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

Hi Susan, are you sure? I may be missing something here, but Welo's last activity is 2020-10-18 so that's fairly recent I'd say :).

As to the info you've provided, after we've left a message on Welo's talk page (and hopefully he'll respond) we can change the entry as I outlined above, and add the statement that the artist was (likely) erroneously attributed to Nielsen in the pub, and that the artists confirmed this on date xyz. What do you think? MagicUnk 16:02, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

D'OH not AWOL, but I did notify him and he hasn't responded... should we just wait for him to respond? I tried to find a German scan on amazon.de and ebay.de plus a few other sites my brothers shop at but ... only cover no copyright page. He's (bro Frank in Augsburg) going to check to see if he can find a copy and check it Susan O'Fearna 16:06, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

Ooops, my bad. Didn't check Welo's talk page. Sorry... But yes, let's give him a couple more days I'd say. Regards, MagicUnk 16:18, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

We'll see what he has to say Susan O'Fearna 21:54, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

Hi Susan. Welo answered. Turns out it is indeed a miscredit. I would suggest to enter the artist's name as 'Cliff Nielsen (in error)', and variant that to the actual artist's canonical name (Anderson) + leaving a note explaining where the info came from (ie confirmed by both artists on 'date'). This seems to be standard practice to credit as stated in the book, but make it clear that it is a miscredit. Would that work for you? I've also left a message on the Community Portal to get some feedback to officialize that practice. MagicUnk 07:22, 26 October 2020 (EDT)

I'm not entirely certain what you're recommending I do here... Susan O'Fearna 12:07, 26 October 2020 (EDT)

Changing the author of the German translation cover art into 'Cliff Nielsen (in error)' (I've just done that), and a note explaining what happened (I added some further clarification to what you already had done). Have a look [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?640751 here and let me know if this is OK for you. Regards, MagicUnk 15:58, 26 October 2020 (EDT)

Cool! Thanks !!!!

The Art of Barclay Shaw additions

Hi. I accepted your additions to The Art of Barclay Shaw, but the disambiguators you used ("2back", etc.) seem inconsistent with some of the other content where "B" is used for what I'm guessing is probably the same thing? I sort of prefer the "B", but I don't think it matters as long as they all follow the same pattern. If there's something different about one group vs. the other, then don't mind me. :-) Thanks. --MartyD 20:16, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

I added the rest so I can variant them... the ones I did not [#B] have on the back of the card either sketches, color studies or earlier versions of the eventual front image Susan O'Fearna 21:55, 21 October 2020 (EDT)

I due Vorkosigan

Source for this one? This is exactly what we have the Moderator note field for... :) Annie 04:32, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1248066 Susan O'Fearna 13:32, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

In which case we need to use the canonical name, not the alternative. Plus as the only source has the wrong attribution, the note in the pub is mandatory. I will approve and fix (and post the link in the mod note next time? :) Annie 13:37, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

if it had been PVd or a source I would have put in the notes, ok Susan O'Fearna 13:39, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

The source was in the notes (Fantascienza -- all the data for the record came from there, including the artist - I added the NILF link last night but the source itself was already in the notes). Most of our Italian non-PVd older records are from there. :) Annie 13:42, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

Adding notes

If you are importing and you have to add notes, just make a second edit a PubEdit) to add the notes you want to add. Saying in the moderator note that you cannot add notes is not very helpful... Annie 23:44, 29 October 2020 (EDT)

I was told a long time ago that if you're editing with an import or something, that any subsequent pending edits get deleted by the system, but if I can do that, it'd be great! Susan O'Fearna 12:01, 30 October 2020 (EDT)

That depends on what is edited exactly - editing the notes and importing should not be clashing (emphasis on should). Try it next time - if they do, we will figure something else. I will run a quick test as well later on and let you know. Annie 12:16, 30 October 2020 (EDT)

Cool! Susan O'Fearna 15:33, 30 October 2020 (EDT)

"Inwijding" cover art

Hi Susan, you submitted an update of this pub that I've PV'd. As there is no credit on or in the book, and since it's a translation, please make sure to clearly state where the credit is coming from. I checked, and am assuming you got it from the statement in this pub record? If so, please update the notes accordingly, and also make it clear that the art credit is only for the symbol, not the full page.

Note that the back cover of this Amazon record reads "Cover design and landscape art by Joel Tippie". You may want to add that too and give credit to both artists. Regards, MagicUnk 10:14, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Once it's approved, I believe I may have set it up correctly; may want to add Joel Tippie... Susan O'Fearna 11:24, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Valley of the Soul -- cover update

I uploaded a new copy of the cover for [1]. If your PV copy actually looks like the one I replaced, we can revert at [2]. Thanks. --GlennMcG 17:27, 5 November 2020 (EST)

They're identical Susan O'Fearna 17:32, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Your copy of the book and the original scan image? Or your book and the new scan image? (I assume you forced a refresh). --GlennMcG 19:39, 5 November 2020 (EST)

The two images you referenced above [1] and [2] Susan O'Fearna 21:08, 5 November 2020 (EST)

I think we're ok then, but to double check, when clicking on the 2nd link, you should come to a page with both your scan and mine.

(Mine is in the table as current, yours, as revert). Clicking on the timestamps in the table gives the two versions. I hope you mean that the current image matches your book, (like it does mine), and the one under revert can be eventually deleted. (Just trying to make sure I'm not misunderstanding). Thanks. --GlennMcG 21:24, 5 November 2020 (EST)

The colors in the image you've provided match my copy much better Susan O'Fearna 21:27, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Great! Sorry to be obtuse. --GlennMcG 21:32, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Thanks Susan O'Fearna 21:33, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Return: An Innkeeper's World Story

I have had to reject this edit. This would have changed the story title that appeared in a verified publication. If you believe that publication did not use the subtitle, than you need to ask the primary verifier to double check. Otherwise, they need to be varianted and not merged. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:12, 13 November 2020 (EST)

Can you, then, change the contents so the short story appears in both the chapbook and Subterranean Online? Susan O'Fearna 23:22, 14 November 2020 (EST)

This is exactly what the variant will do. Annie 01:01, 15 November 2020 (EST)

Dragons and Dreams: A Collection of New Fantasy and Science Fiction Stories

A price of 11.89 is extremely weird - is it printed on the book somewhere (and if so - is that in $). If not printed, where is it coming from? Annie 18:04, 21 December 2020 (EST)

It's right on the inner front flap... I thought it was odd, too but it is a library edition... Susan O'Fearna 18:22, 21 December 2020 (EST)

Ah. Missed that. Totally normal for a library edition. I will add the dollar sign after approval. Annie 18:56, 21 December 2020 (EST)

Thanks! Susan O'Fearna 19:01, 21 December 2020 (EST)

More on Dragons & Dreams: A Collection of New Fantasy and Science Fiction Stories: you have the publication record entered as 'Dragons and Dreams', instead of the reference name, so it features here. If that is indeed the title on the title page the reference title should be changed.--Dirk P Broer 05:58, 22 December 2020 (EST)

Sorted out. Annie 06:20, 22 December 2020 (EST)

Cool, I got this one from the library, but I doubt the title page would have AND instead of & any different from this edition... Susan O'Fearna 12:28, 22 December 2020 (EST)

Astounding Science Fiction, November 1958 (UK)

I had to reject this submission. As per the pub notes, "Uncredited cover based on one by H. R. van Dongen." Many European reprints of early American magazines used new versions of the American cover art. They would have a different artist re-paint the cover. This is not van Dongen's work. Please be careful when adding cover credits to such magazines. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:06, 23 December 2020 (EST)

OK Susan O'Fearna 11:13, 23 December 2020 (EST)

A cratera da morte

What is the source for this edit? Dias is what is credited as bibliowiki.com.pt. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:39, 11 January 2021 (EST)

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?408271 SORRY/THANKS Susan O'Fearna 18:06, 11 January 2021 (EST)

Curran Points of View

Hi Susan. Concerning this and this submission: are you sure that the title is really written as "Curran's Point of View"? LookInside of the Kindle edition shows "Curran Points of View". Might be prudent to ask Bob to confirm, as he has PV'd the pb edition. Generally speaking, if you're correcting a PV'd publication, you should contact the PV if you don't happen to have a copy yourself to confirm that the proposed update is valid and that there's not something else going on. Thanks! MagicUnk 08:49, 27 January 2021 (EST)

it's several short stories that were included first on the Ilona Andrews website, then in later editions of paperbacks

Curran's Point of View

• Unicorn Lane (Magic Bites)

• Fernando's (Magic Bites)

• Soup (Magic Burns)

• Midnight Games (Magic Strikes)

• Hot Tub (Magic Strikes)

• Kate's Origin (Between Magic Strikes and Magic Bleeds)

• Naked Dinner (Between Magic Strikes and Magic Bleeds)

• Conclave (Magic Bleeds)

• Awake (end of Magic Bleeds)

• Prequel (Magic Breaks)

Jim's Point of View (Magic Breaks) Susan O'Fearna 17:05, 27 January 2021 (EST)

I may not have been entirely clear, I meant to ask how the titles are printed in the publication in question (if you would have it in hand, let me know). Since we are recording as printed on or in the actual book, we can't rely on secondary sources for that (after all, it can differ from publication to publication) - in this case, do ask Bob to confirm how it's written in the book he PV'd. Thanks! MagicUnk 07:22, 28 January 2021 (EST)

[3]. Here's the screencap of beginning... Susan O'Fearna 22:38, 28 January 2021 (EST)

And accepted. MagicUnk 08:51, 29 January 2021 (EST)

thanks Susan O'Fearna 12:06, 29 January 2021 (EST)

Hellbound Hearts

Hell-o. So Simon Clark's collection The Gravedigger's Tale: Fables of Fear was the only collection of his that had no contents since the book info was entered on ISFDB nearly 10 years ago. I tweeted Mr. Clark and he sent me a picture of the contents which I've started entering, beginning with importing titles already on ISFDB, and there was an error in 1 of the titles. "Our Lord of Quarters" is spelled as "Out Lord of Quarters" on ISFDB. Before I change it can you verify your copy says "OUR"? --Username 10:25, 28 January 2021 (EST)

I'm not sure why you're asking me... I don't have this book Susan O'Fearna 15:59, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Because this record, [4], says you verified the print version of HELLBOUND HEARTS back in 2012, and since I spoke to Mr. Clark and saw the title of his story from this anthology was spelled correctly in his collection but incorrectly on ISFDB I thought I'd ask you to check your copy of Hellbound Hearts (if you still have it) to confirm that it's spelled "Our Lord of Quarters" and not "Out Lord of Quarters" as you entered it so I can correct it and continue entering the other stories in Mr. Clark's collection. --Username 17:27, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Now *that* I can do! And it'll give me a good excuse to stop shoveling the 3' of frozen-ass snow at my office!, sec... Susan O'Fearna

Yup, the ToC says "Our", not "out" Susan O'Fearna 17:49, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Ryan

Shivers VIII [5]; Alan Ryan story should be by Alan Peter Ryan, right? He stopped using short name in 1980's and started using full name from his return to writing fiction around 2010 until his death. --Username 16:12, 15 February 2021 (EST)

Yes, it does say "Alan Peter Ryan" -- I'll try to fix that Susan O'Fearna 17:52, 15 February 2021 (EST)

The title shows up twice in your PV'd edition of Shivers VIII now. --Username 09:16, 17 February 2021 (EST)

Yes, remediation takes 2 steps; until my ADD was done I couldn't REMOVE Susan O'Fearna 11:20, 17 February 2021 (EST)

The Last Colony by John Scalzi

Hi Susan. Last August you asked me to check this pub. I finally found it, nearly untouched by the fire and smoke. It actually has four Vincent Chong illustrations, only two are shown on Chong's site, respectively #2 and #1 (Fuglies and The Obin). I added the other two, the titles and page numbers. Thanks, --Willem 15:33, 21 April 2021 (EDT)

lovely, thanks!! Susan O'Fearna 22:42, 22 April 2021 (EDT)

Rat Tales

Would you mind double checking the credit for the story on page 39 of Rat Tales? We are currently showing the second author as by his full name (including middle name) with a variant to his 'normal' name. The author is claiming he never used his full name in publication. If you could double check if this is a database error or the author is mistaken, it would be appreciated. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:27, 20 June 2021 (EDT)

I'm moving a ton of books around... when Rat Tales pops back up, I'll check it ! Susan O'Fearna 14:42, 20 June 2021 (EDT)

"Die Foundation-Trilogie" and its Jim Burns cover art

Hi Susan! As I wrote on Ron's page as a response to your post there last year, Jim Burns is not the cover artist of Die Foundation-Trilogie. The cover artist is Thomas Thiemeyer only, which I can verify with my copy of the previous printing of the pub. Therefore the title record for Jim Burns had been removed from it last year. Now I see that you've added Jim Burns back again in March this year. What is your data source for doing so? Thanks, Jens Hitspacebar 09:06, 6 July 2021 (EDT)

I just put in a removal order with a note, but that Thiemeyer guy's art is quite similar to Jim's work... look at his cover to A Stainless Steel Rat is Born and you'll see what I mean. BUT if you have the work at it says Thiemeyer, I won't re-add it Susan O'Fearna 22:54, 6 July 2021 (EDT)

OK, I did all the necessary changes and moved your note addition to the title record. As for the similarity to Jim Burns' art, and in general regarding an assumed similarity: if other publication records already use the same cover image and, moreover, have been primary-verified (this one and this one, which can easily be found by looking at the title record of the cover art) it's quite certain that the cover artist is already correct. Making cover artist changes shouldn't be done then just based on assumptions or subjective similarities, but by double-checking data sources or asking the primary-verifiers. Jens Hitspacebar 03:37, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

I actually thought this was the same image as the Jim Burns cover to The Stainless Steel Rat is Born, but when you asked and I checked there are differences. I actually got down my Jim Burns art books, I thought this was that same image! Thanks Susan O'Fearna 09:40, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

Tor/Forge

Hi Susan, where did that TOR/Forge came from in your submission? I can't find it in the kindle edition anywhere (Amazon LookInside) - also, even if Forge would have to be considered an imprint of TOR, we record Imprint / Publisher - so it should have been 'Forge / Tor' in that case (even though that's not quite right either since TOR is an imprint itself). See here for detailed rules. Thanks! MagicUnk 10:59, 8 September 2021 (EDT)

you know, I have no idea! Thanks for changing it to just Tor Susan O'Fearna 22:24, 8 September 2021 (EDT)

Time After Time

I corrected the month of the above title by Karl Alexander which you PV'd; Fantlab has a copy and it clearly says 0379 on back flap in 1 photo. --Username 13:02, 14 September 2021 (EDT)

ok Susan O'Fearna 22:22, 17 September 2021 (EDT)

Artemis Fowl

Hello,

This record is really mixed up. It cannot be from 2002 and have a cover from a movie that came out in 2020 and ISBN13. So either this is a 2020/2021 version of the audiobook or the cover and ISBN need fixing :) Thanks! Annie 15:53, 5 October 2021 (EDT)

I have the corrected info in there... don't have a release date for the "movie tie in version", but I've had the audible for a few years now and there's at least one other version with a different narrator Susan O'Fearna 00:12, 8 October 2021 (EDT)

Perfect, thanks :) Annie 00:19, 8 October 2021 (EDT)

:-) Susan O'Fearna 00:22, 8 October 2021 (EDT)

Also - as with most imprints, we record them in the publisher field. listening library is an old friend so I reunited your book with the rest of the books published under the imprint. :) Annie 00:23, 8 October 2021 (EDT)

Perfect Susan O'Fearna 00:24, 8 October 2021 (EDT)

Notes, notes, notes

Just a reminder: Always add a note on where a cover credit comes from. I just did it here. Thanks :) Annie 20:59, 8 October 2021 (EDT)

thanks Susan O'Fearna 02:01, 9 October 2021 (EDT)

"Designers are not artists"

Hi Susan, do avoid recording designers as cover artists. Please revert your change you made here. Thanks! MagicUnk 12:26, 15 October 2021 (EDT)

ok Susan O'Fearna 00:03, 31 January 2022 (EST)

The Night They Missed the Horror Show

Are you sure this is 2009? Amazon and Audible insist on it being 2008 :) Annie 06:03, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

oops... shouldn't edit with a migraine! Susan O'Fearna 22:04, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

Hope you are feeling better! Annie 22:23, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

getting there, I hope Susan O'Fearna 00:21, 22 October 2021 (EDT)

Malefic

Hi Susan. Can you check the essay on page 7 of Malefic? Is it really credited to "Miguelanx Prado" or is it "Miguelanxo Prado". In any case, it should be varianted to Paisajes con Figura. Thanks, --Willem 15:14, 22 November 2021 (EST)

Gwendy's Button Box - subseries of Castle Rock?

Hi, you're a PV on this and this, I have a question - there's an upcoming book which in the UK at least is promoted as the third in a trilogy (see also Goodreads). Do you have any objection to making those existing titles the first and second parts of a new "Gwendy's Button Box" series, and making that a subseries of the current "Castle Rock" series?

I haven't read any King for about ~30 years, and have only the vaguest awareness of how his works inter-relate, so I'm wary of wading into things I don't fully understand. I'll contact other PVs for their opinion. Thanks ErsatzCulture 18:48, 24 January 2022 (EST)

sounds like a good idea... the 3 Gwendy's stories are set in Castle Rock, and they are their own "trilogy" (novella/novel/etc) so I would see that as a logical change/addition Susan O'Fearna 19:48, 30 January 2022 (EST)

Thanks; I've submitted edits to the 3 titles, and will make the new series a subseries of Castle Rock once they're accepted. ErsatzCulture 17:02, 31 January 2022 (EST)

cool Susan O'Fearna 07:10, 1 February 2022 (EST)

Mermaids Monthly, August 2021

Re: your verified pub Mermaids Monthly, August 2021, only one content title has been entered. Do you plan on adding anything else? If not, do you mind if I finish it? All the other issues are complete. John Scifibones 12:31, 28 January 2022 (EST)

I can, sure. Trying to not do much permanent till I'm off pain meds a bit (surgery sucks!) but will pull that up and try to make the changes (mermaids: I'd assume they ALL belong here, huh?) Susan O'Fearna 19:50, 30 January 2022 (EST)

Yes, it's all genre. Sorry you had some medical issues. Take your time, if you change your mind let me know. John Scifibones 20:17, 30 January 2022 (EST)

thanks Susan O'Fearna 00:04, 31 January 2022 (EST)

Affiliate links

I've noticed a couple Amazon affiliate links in notes on this one and this one (though there may be more). As far as I understand, we shouldn't be putting in affiliate links in notes. Please do not do that in the future. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:34, 9 February 2022 (EST)

This one, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:41, 9 February 2022 (EST)

Also this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, and this one. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:15, 9 February 2022 (EST)

A few more (most are INTERIORART titles from one art book): here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:07, 9 February 2022 (EST)

It looks like there may be a few different issues here.

First, I don't think these are affiliate links. An affiliate link looks like "https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088CPWBWQ?tag=isfdb-20" where "tag=isfdb-20" tells Amazon who referred the customer to them. The links that Ofearna created don't have a "tag=" component.

Second, as Help:Using Templates and HTML in Note Fields states, we have a special Notes template for linking to Amazon, "ASIN". You can enter {{ASIN|B088CPWBWQ}} in Notes and the software will display the correct matching link automatically. Not only is it easier to enter, but it also ensures that our links to third party Web sites won't become obsolete if and when they change their URL structure -- we'll just need to change the template to reflect the new URLs.

Third, I see that some records like this one say "Available at Amazon". However, if you follow the Amazon link, you'll see that the item is "Currently unavailable". For this reason I would change "Available at Amazon" to something like "See {{ASIN|B088CPWBWQ}} for details". Ahasuerus 16:26, 9 February 2022 (EST)

They did have an older version of affiliate link structure that included "susanofearna" as part of the URL. I've removed it from all of those listed above. I agree about the template use, though, including changing the wording to "See ASIN for details". ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:53, 9 February 2022 (EST)

Ah, I see. Thanks for taking care of them. Ahasuerus 18:32, 9 February 2022 (EST)

I wonder if we should do a query that looks at only the notes field for "susanofearna" so we can make sure all of them are removed? I doubt Ofearna would remember all of the ones that got entered. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:54, 9 February 2022 (EST)

Looks like I can answer my own question: This search found 32 additional entries. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:55, 9 February 2022 (EST)