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J. R R. Tolkien Handbook

Please add the pub format to this record, and update the Note field, since you've done a primary verification of it. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:25, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Research has shown that it's a trade paperback, so I updated that field. Please correct the source when you get a chance. Mhhutchins 06:46, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't get to this sooner. Lots of stuff going on. I found I actually had a different printing, which I submitted. Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

ERB Princess of Mars - Page Count and Cover Art Credit

I fixed a typo in your verified record for Princess of Mars - 2012 Library of America HC. The database had "xlviii+3-3" in the page count, while Worldcat shows "xlviii, 303 pages". It seems pretty obvious that you only typo-ed the zero with a dash (one key over on a keyboard). If my correction is incorrect, I will leave it to you to update the record with the correct information. Also the cover is pretty clearly the Schoonover cover for Princess of Mars, as listed by Worldcat. I also went ahead and added a coverart credit to Frank E. Schoonover with a statement that it was credited by comparison. Thanks - Kevin 13:52, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

J. R. R. Tolkien Handbook (2)

Can you confirm the publisher is given as Baker Books and not Baker Book House? (As given in the OCLC record.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 05:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes. That's what it says on the title page. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

cover art

I added the amazon.com cover art link to this book Susan O'Fearna 20:25, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:24, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Missing data in primary verified records

Please add the publication format/binding data missing from the records of publications which you have verified. The publication records are linked in this clean-up report under your user name. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:39, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:17, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Light on the Sound

I've amended part of the Note for our verified 1986 edition: "End of book has two appendixes, list of Proper Names, and a Glossary", by adding "none of which are present in the 1982 first edition." I reckon it's worth mentioning. PeteYoung 06:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Sure, sounds fine. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:18, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Default display of non-English translations

When you get a chance, could you please review this discussion? The proposal basically boils down to changing the behavior of the Summary Bibliography when the viewing user is not logged in. Currently only English translations are displayed for unauthenticated users. The proposal would change it to displaying all translations. The downside is that the Summary page could get longer and harder to navigate.

I am trying to get a sense of how widespread the support for this change is. TIA! Ahasuerus 01:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Done. I hope my suggestion makes sense. I think it would be a good place to start, and be the best of both worlds. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:25, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

"House of Many Ways", by Diana Wynne Jones

I added some (minor) notes to your verified publication (the first and last note). Chavey 23:05, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good, Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:53, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Adding subtitles to the title record in relation to the pub record

I accepted your submission to change the title of The Irda: Children of the Stars because the subtitle appears to be in all editions, so effectively it's more than a subtitle. But keep in mind, that in most cases, the title field of the title record doesn't have to be an exact match of the title field of the publication record. We usually omit some subtitles, such as "A Novel", and those that give series information, such as "Fifth Novel in the Zuluala Series". It's OK to add that data to the title field of the publication record, since you're quoting directly from the book's title page, but the title field of the title record should not be changed to match. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:44, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but in this case it is part of the title. I don't usually change the title record in these cases, for the reasons you mentioned. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Fredric Brown's "The Devil Times Three"

Last year an anonymous contributor created Bug 524, which reads:

The story "The Devil Times Three" is not a separate story, but just combines "Nasty", "Rope Trick", and "The Ring of Hans Carvel" into a single "story."

I see that you verified The Mammoth Book of Awesome Comic Fantasy, which contains this story, on 2015-06-20. Could you please check if it's a composite entity? TIA! Ahasuerus 16:08, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Sure, I'll look it up when I can get the book (a baby is sleeping in there right now). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

It appears to be a composite entry. How should this be changed? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for checking! Please proceed to add the three individual stories to your verified pub. Additional Notes explaining the situation would be great too. Once the submission has been approved, we can remove the composite title from the pub and then delete it from the database. Ahasuerus 22:42, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

But they are not listed in the table of contents. They are just sections of the story that is listed there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

It's quite often the case that the table of contents doesn't tell the whole or the true story (we only go by it if we don't have the full book as reference, for example data entered from the 'look inside' gadget.) Stonecreek 04:12, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Okay, done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Amazon and ebooks

Re this publication: Amazon's ASIN should not be entered into the ISFDB record's ISBN/catalog number field. It is a merchant's identifying number and not a publisher's catalog number. You have the option to record the ASIN in the note field.

The page count field for ebooks is only used if the book is PDF format. In all other formats the pages are set by the user and file reader. You can also give Amazon's "Print length" (which is how they designate the number of pages) in the Note field.

One last thing Amazon Digital Services is not really a publisher, it's a platform for self-publishing. I see that there are other records in the database that credit them as the "publisher", but we should only use the publisher credit given in the book itself. If no publisher is credited, the field can be left blank, and then noted. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 15:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Then the instruction page needs to be corrected. The ASIN is Amazon's catalog #, and since they are the publisher of any ebooks sold on the site, it is the ebook's catalog #. As for whether or not Amazon is a publisher, that's really just semantics. They are the ones providing the method to get the book out to the public. That might be a good discussion for one of the rules boards. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:18, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I have to disagree with most of your statement concerning Amazon's relationship to an author's work. Amazon is not the publisher of every ebook sold on their site; they are either the retailer or the distributor of thousands of ebooks by thousands of different publishers. True they do publish books under certain imprints like 47North, but not books published under the CreateSpace self-publishing platform. Would you say that every book in a Barnes and Noble store is published by B&N as well? Since B&N "are the ones providing the method to get the book out to the public." It's not semantics. There's a clear distinction here which has nothing to do with language. It's about business. Feel free to bring the discussion to the group. Mhhutchins|talk 05:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

BTW, what specific part of "the instruction page needs to be corrected"? Mhhutchins|talk 05:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Well, in this case it was originally listed as "Amazon Digital Services" being the publisher on the Amazon listing. It's now listed as "CreateSpace", so I've updated the listing here. The instruction page says nothing at all about ASINs. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:24, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

And why should it? What does an ASIN have to do with a field designated for ISBNs and catalog numbers? It doesn't mention that dogs aren't ISBNs either, but then that's as irrelevant to the field as ASINs. Or should we append a list of everything that's not an ISBN or catalog number. As for the publisher, "Amazon Digital Services" is given in the "Sold bv" field, not in the publisher field of the Amazon listing for the ebook. "CreateSpace" isn't mentioned at all. Mhhutchins|talk 18:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Why are you being a jerk? It was listed there when I looked, or I wouldn't have put it there. Fix it yourself since you keep questioning everything I do. I only help here in my spare time because I want to make the site more complete, and having to deal with your attitude doesn't encourage me to want to do anything to help out. If the book is published by Amazon (which it is, in this case), then the ASIN is as much a catalog number as anything else. Try to be a little more diplomatic in how you deal with things instead of coming off as an arrogant pedant. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm trying to point out that the ISFDB doesn't recognize the ASIN as a catalog number, a fact which you don't want to accept. If that's being a jerk, then so be it. About the publisher credit, since you have copies of both the ebook and the print book, please make the publisher credit of the ISFDB records match the publisher credit given in the books. If you believe I'm wrong or being a jerk, please present your case to the group on one of the community pages. Mhhutchins|talk 15:29, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Hell's Foundation Quiver

I added a new cover scan, notes and the maps to the contents for Hell's Foundations Quiver. Bob 19:01, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:20, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

"A Wizard of Earthsea", by Ursula Le Guin

I added a cover artist for your verified edition of this book, based on the attribution given by Wikipedia. Chavey 05:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:22, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Frederic Brown

Can you confirm that the three stories in this anthology are correctly credited to Frederic Brown? If so, please make variants to the parent title records under the author's canonical name. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 16:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Left hand, please read my right hand. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Please read my message again. The topic to which you link has nothing to do with the author credit. I'm asking if "Frederic Brown" is credited for the stories on their title pages, and not Fredric Brown. If the answer is "The stories are credited to Frederic Brown", make them into variants. If the answer is "No, the stories are credited to Fredric Brown", then correct the records and merge them with the existing title records. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 15:21, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:13, 6 November 2015 (UTC)