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I am now only checking this page very infrequently. You do not need to inform me about the addition/import of contents, other prices, publication details from Locus or other minor changes - just go ahead and amend the record as necessary. Anything else please continue to post messages here and I will (eventually) respond.
 
  
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{{welcome}} [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The Star Trek Compendium'' ==
 
 
The following changes were made in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?512806 this record] to comply with ISFDB standards:
 
 
* The publisher was changed from "W.H.Allen and Co.Ltd. / Star" to "Star / W. H. Allen". The imprint goes first, followed by a space, a slash, a space and then the publisher. We drop "Co." and "Ltd." from most publisher names. and add spaces after periods in initialed publisher names and author names.
 
* Pub format/binding was changed to "tp" (for trade paperback) since this book's height is more than 7 inches or 18 centimeters.
 
 
Thanks for contributing. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Note to Moderator field ==
 
 
Do not use the "Note to Moderator" field to provide substantial information about the publication. That should go into the "Note" field and becomes a visible part of the record. The other field is used to provide additional information ''about the submission'' (not the publication) to help the moderator in the decision to accept the submission. Once the submission is accepted everything in that field disappears forever.
 
 
For example, in the submission adding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?512807 this record], the Note to Moderator said "Merely has a copyright date of 1989 Byron Preiss Visual Publications Inc. Pages are unnumbered. Credits page lists Jean-Marc and Randy Lofficier as associate editors, Alex Jay as art director and Robbin Brosterman as designer. Introduction is by George Lucas." That information did not get transferred to the record, and only exists now because I copied it before I accepted the submission. Feel free to update the record to add this information to the Note field. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 
 
I changed the format to "tp". You should also do a primary verification of the record. I'm assuming your data is from an actual copy, but you didn't indicate that in the Source field of the submission. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:39, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Edited record to add the information above to the "Note" field --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== New cover image for ''Ariel'' 4 ==
 
 
I'm holding your submission to replace the cover image link given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3024 this record]. I have a copy of this book, and the current image is closer to the book than the scan you wish to replace it with. If you like, I could add a link to the Note field, but I don't think we should replace the currently displayed image. What do you think? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I've created a composite of the best of both images. This probably accomplishes your intention on replacing the original scan. (You will probably have to clear your computer's cache to see the new image. Hit "F5" on your keyboard.) Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:33, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Uploading cover images ==
 
 
We ask that you wait until a publication record has been created before uploading a cover image for it. That way you can use the link on the record to upload the image for that particular record. This creates a unique file name that matches the tag of the publication record, automatically adds a license, and creates a link back to the publication on the image file's wiki page. For example, [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Image:CREATIONS.jpg this file] was uploaded first, you had to manually add a license tag and give it a descriptive name (CREATIONS) which could have possibly conflicted with another file (thus overwriting it), and the wiki file doesn't link back to the publication record (it couldn't because the record doesn't exist.) In the future, please create the publication record first, then use the "Upload cover scan" link to upload the file to the ISFDB server. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Non-ISBN catalog numbers ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?215701 this record]: when adding a catalog number which is not an ISBN, please add the # sign before the number (with no space) to distinguish it as a catalog number. I looked at [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisheryear.cgi?2358+1967 Dennis Dobson's output for 1967] and saw that some books have been given ISBNs and others haven't, even primary verified records. Is it possible that the number you've given for the Asimov collection could be stated elsewhere in the publication as an ISBN? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:54, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:This is indeed an ISBN number as stated on rear flap of dust wrapper. Only has 8 digits due to it being 1967. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:49, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
That would not be a standard ISBN. According to [http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/18247093 OCLC], the ISBN is 0234770074. Can you see if this number appears anywhere in the book, perhaps on the copyright page? (Again, please use colons to separate your response from the previous one. It makes it so much easier to follow a discussion. Thanks.) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 06:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Awaiting a response to my last request, but also wondering why you removed the colons from the post? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I edited the record with the ISBN number from the book's copyright page which matched the one you gave above. As for removing colons - each colon is effectively a tab so therefore after about six responses the text is shunted all the way to the right making it unreadable and/or unnecessarily lengthy that is why I have been placing spaces between each response to make things clearer for me to read/follow. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Better '+' than 'Edit' ==
 
 
I've got the impression you are using the 'Edit' function when leaving messages on wiki pages. When you are opening a new item, it's better to use the '+' function to avoid confusion with preceding themes. Thanks, [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 07:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Thanks for the tip. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Tale of the Future, Second Edition ==
 
 
Hello, I've approved your submission for this book, but it's possible that it's in fact the same as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339660 this publication] (same price, same info, not verified). If you think it's the case, don't hesitate to delete it. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 13:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:That's listed as 'hc' (hardcover). Mine is a pb. I don't know if LA issued these in hardcovers so I'm loathe to delete in case I get the evil eye. As for the submission of the third edition which gave me a warning about the date being earlier than the edition my Library Association paperback is definitely dated 1978 both on the title page and copyright page where it says "First published 1978" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::I've got the first, it's a hc. For the third I've already changed the date at title level. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 13:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The Science Fiction Film Source Book'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513493 this publication]: Generically titled works such as "Introduction", "Foreword", "Afterword", "Preface", etc. should be parenthetically disambiguated with the title of the publication. So the first two and the last piece in this book should be disambiguated. Also, can you confirm the spelling of the first piece is "Foreward" and not "Foreword"? One last thing, are you certain the last three pieces are correctly typed as SHORTFICTION? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 07:39, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:You can blame the typist for that. It is indeed Foreword and have corrected the typo. As for the last three items. The Glossary although given a separate entry in the contents page it is pretty much an appendage to the Brosnan essay. The "Rental Figures" and 'Bibliography' are merely lists. I have made these three ESSAYS and disambiguated the Foreword, Contributors and Select Bibliograhy entries for the record as well. Hoping that is satisfactory. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Yes, it looks fine. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:17, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::It was a long 3 days fuelled only by double chocolate chip muffins and streaming psychedelic music. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:19, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Voices for the Future: Essays on Major Science Fiction Writers, Volume 2 ==
 
 
Hello, can you check the title page of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294603 this pub] to see if it end by "Volume 2" or "Volume Two"? Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 19:30, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Volume Two. On front cover of dust wrapper, front flap and title page. Page prior to title page merely has "Voices For The Future" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:34, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Toward the Radical Centre: A Karel Capek Reader ==
 
 
Hello, I've just approved your submission for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513745 this pub], but as author we've got Kussi, Kaussi and Kraussi. Can you have a look? [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:55, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Definitely KUSSI. Also forgot to add the note "Cover design Chris Lione" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:58, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
But as to our standards this really seems to be a Capek collection, edited by another hand. So, the author should be Karel Capek! [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 19:00, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Looks like you're correct if so then my bad. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:06, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Okay, I have made the necessary changes for you, including removing the brackets from the unnumbered pages, according to the help rules on recording page numbers (for it seems that there are no unnumbered pages before page 1 that contain any content that needs to be recorded). Thanks, [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 19:26, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:As my note states the page numbering begins at 37. All the preceding pages are unnumbered so when I read the info on recording unnumbered pages it said to extrapolate and put the numbers in brackets. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:30, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
No, I have to correct you. The help section speaks of "unnumbered pages before page 1" to put in brackets, so there are 36 pages before p. 37 that we do count as pages 1-36 (no brackets in our records). Only pages before that unnumbered p. 1 that have content of interest would be bracketed: that seems not to be the case with this publication. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 19:44, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok thanks for clearing that up. I must have missed that bit about "unnumbered pages before page 1" Thanks for correcting that and my obvious blindness. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:48, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Any of the SHORTFICTION contents which are obviously not speculative fiction should be given as non-genre. (I'm assuming there's a strong possibility that many of these aren't spec fic.)  That can be done by editing each of the work's title record. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:13, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I'm afraid that I wouldn't have a clue as to which of the pieces in this book were non-genre. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 22:12, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Entering subtitles ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513759 this record]: I changed the title from ''Derleth Hawk...and Dove'' to ''Derleth: Hawk...and Dove''. Any time there's a change in font or type size to indicate a subtitle, separate the two using a colon. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:That book has neither a change of font not type size on the title page (unnumbered page iii) or on unnumbered page ii. The only time the colon appears is on the spine hence my 'not to moderator' regarding that fact and me not being sure if the bit after Derleth was or was not a subtitle. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Most of the time it's pretty obvious, even if there is no change in font. (When I first saw the record, the question that came to mind was "Who is Derleth Hawk?") The front cover design in this case makes it clear that ''Hawk....and Dove'' is the subtitle. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''H. P. Lovecraft: A Life'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513760 this record]: there's one too many numbers in the ISBN. Also when giving the record number from an outside database give it in the following format: "Source: Number". For example, a Library of Congress control number should be entered as "LCCN: 12345678". Or from WorldCat it would be "OCLC: 12345678". The purpose of adding the colon is to facilitate the moving of these numbers from the Note field to a separate field which is dedicated to the source, if and when we decide to add links to those out-of-database records. It's also optional for the editor to do a manual link to those records. Here's a [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_create_a_link_to_a_US_Library_of_Congress_%28Loc%29_record help page] for linking to Library of Congress records. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:52, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:ISBN as printed on rear cover and copyright page is definitely written as : 0-940884-88-7 (ten numbers). And thanks for the heads up regarding the format for writing LCCN numbers. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Suzy McKee Charnas/Joan Vinge/Octavia Butler ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513743 this publication]: it's my understanding that each essay is separately paginated. According to OCLC, the page count should be "'52+44+72". Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 06:28, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Did check and you're right. Have edited it accordingly. Apologies for the cock-up. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:41, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The Truth Is Out There'' ==
 
 
According to Amazon.co.uk [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513836 this publication]'s first printing was December 4, 1995. A fourth printing would have to be 1996 at the earliest. If the printing date isn't given, and there is no reliable secondary source, the publication date should be zeroed. I'm assuming 1985 is a typo, since the series didn't premiere until 1993. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Yes 1995. Blame bad eyesight/lighting/keyboard/typist. Have corrected it now. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::But not the publication date? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:23, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::"Published by HarperCollinsPublishers 1995" on copyright page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 22:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The Future Was Fab'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513856 this publication]. Titles should be given using standard capitalization rules as given [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Title here] (under "Case".) There should be no space between the title and the colon, only a space after the colon. Remember to change the title fields of all three records which are generated by a new record creation: the publication record, the author/editor record, and the cover art record (that's three separate submissions.) Also, "Trimm" should be "Trim". So you'll have to update the author credit field of all three records as well. Each can be done in the same submission that updates the title field. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:22, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:The title "the future was fab" is written this way (no capitalisation) both on the cover and the title page. I will make the necessary edits. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:27, 7 May 2015
 
 
That's very likely a design choice. As the standards state: "unless there is some specific evidence that the author intended certain letters to be in a specific case." I don't see that being the case here. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I changed the title and content as suggested and removed the additional 'm' in the three fields but you mention a third record in regards to the title which I couldn't find. I have made the changes as suggested but if I missed one out it's because I couldn't find the relevant field you were referring to. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:38, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Because this is typed as NONFICTION and this being the only record under that title, the title reference record can be edited during a publication record edit. Normally you wouldn't be able to do that, and until you'll very familiar with the database structure, it's best not to update a title reference during a publication record edit. (Most of the time the moderator will catch such edits and determine if they should be allowed.) 
 
BTW, all verbs are capitalized in English titles, even short ones like "Was", "Are", and "Is". I'll correct the records. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
One last thing: you have the option to create content records (typed INTERIORART) for each of the five pieces, giving the titles as stated in the publication. Or you can create one content record giving the title of the publication itself. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:04, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Your patience is (possibly) infinite. As for cresting content for the cover you can see what it looks like on [http://www.miketrimart.com/ this webpage] if you haven't already checked it out. Not something I'd be confident about doing at the best of times. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 21:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Structura'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513936 this record]: you say in the Note to Moderator that you're not sure which ISBN to give. Since it's hardcover, you should give the ISBN-13 that's stated on its copyright page, which your note mentions is the same as given on its dust jacket. Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding the note?
 
 
It's usually better to ask questions on the [[ISFDB:Moderator noticeboard]] rather than in the Note to Moderator. We have no way of responding to a question posed there other than on the wiki. In most cases, it's better to ask before you take the time to create a submission which might have to be rejected and re-submitted. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok I'll ask question to the place you suggested. My query about the ISBN was due to the fact that two different ISBNs for the hardcover version are given on the copyright page - one with 13 digits and one with 10 digits. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:31, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::When both are present, always enter the ISBN-13. You have the option of recording the ISBN-10 in the Note field. Be careful for books published before January 2007, the official start of ISBN-13 usage (although some British publishers starting using ISBN-13 in 2006.) Many books dating back to the 1980s have a 13-digit number called the EAN. Unless it actually states "ISBN-13" with the number, you should record the ISBN-10 for all pre-2007 publications. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:32, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Thanks for that. Will put the 13 digit ISBN in the appropriate field. Notes re the 10/13 digit ISBNs already noted on record. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Futuropolis ==
 
 
About the question, copied from that page to keep things in one place:
 
:Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?481295 this book]. My copy is prominently marked "Bergström+Boyle/Big O/London" on title page, rear cover and copyright page. That page states "Produced and published by Bergström and Boyle Books Limited" and a London address. Cover art may be Alan Daniels (his style from two images in Stewart Cowley's Terran Trade Authority series. I won't add this information as notes just in case the copy I have is a variant edition. [http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,156160368,var,Futuropolis-Impossible-Cities-of-Science-Fiction-and-Fantasy-by-Robert-Sheckley-1978-First-Edition,language,E.html This site] lists publisher as Bergström and Boyle as well, same ISBN number as your PV and mine. Your thoughts on this welcome via my talk page. Thanks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::My copy has the same markings, but also on the copyright page "This edition published in 1979 by Big O Publishing Ltd.", as stated in the notes. Since we sometimes regularise publisher's names, and there's no other Bergström+Boyle publication in the database, I only credited Big O Publishing. Feel free to add any notes you think necessary. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 12:44, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Ok thanks (and apologies for posting on the wrong page). I'll add some notes to the record. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:29, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''SF of H. G. Wells'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294424 this publication]: Can you confirm that the cover art is credited to "Kelley" and not "Kelly" Freas? Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 00:48, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Kelly. Have corrected the spelling error. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:00, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Evocation of Virgin...'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514158 this publication]: is it more than 7 inches/18 centimeters tall? If so, a softcover book should be typed as "tp". (OCLC says it's 21 cm.)
 
 
Do you consider each of the essays you've entered as contents to be individual separate essays? (Do you know if any of them were published separately?)  Or are each simply a named chapter in a complete work and would require all of them to present the author's full thesis?
 
 
Also, the NONFICTION type is reserved for book-length works (such as this publication). A short work of nonfiction which is published as part of a larger work (which can be fiction or nonfiction) is typed as ESSAY. If you choose to keep them as part of the record, the last three contents have to be changed to ESSAY, and the titles of the final two will have to be disambiguated. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 01:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Book size is 5.25" wide x 8". Essays are named chapters in a complete work. Have changed NONFICTION to ESSAY and disambiguated accordingly (assuming that I include the subtitle). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
That size would be closer to the "tp" format than the "pb" format. And if the "essays" that you've entered in the contents are chapter titles, then they shouldn't be entered separately as content records. Also, you only changed two of the three pieces originally typed as NONFICTION. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 06:21, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Essays are chapter titles so not sure how to correct the entry. With some of the more obscure reference books it's not easy to determine if the chapter titles are separate entities or part of the whole. It's not easy I grant but hopefully I'm headed in vaguely the right direction. Have made the edits in regards format etc. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:47, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
If you determine that there shouldn't be records for each of the chapters (the standard approach to book-length works of nonfiction), you can use the "Remove Titles From This Pub" function under the Editing Tools menu. Once they are removed, they'll also have to be deleted. (Removal from a publication record doesn't automatically delete title records.) [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 14:53, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Per your advice I have removed the titles from the publication. Unsure how to delete them after removal. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:00, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Hale & Gresham Hardback SF'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514176 this publication]: is there any indication that this is an updated or revised edition of the 1988 edition? OCLC says there's a 1988 copyright, for at least one printing of the work. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 01:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:"Copyright © 1993, Beccon Publications" on first page. No indication of the earlier edition. I got my copy direct from Roger Robinson. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Super Space'' ==
 
 
I'm holding the submission to add a record of this title. Can you confirm that the publisher is stated as "Libro"? According to the [http://www.worldcat.org/title/supa-supesu/oclc/674153370 OCLC record], the publisher is "Riburopōto". They also credit the book to "Iwasaki Kazuaki". It's possible that those credits (both publisher and author) have been transliterated from the original Japanese. Are the credits in your copy of the book in the Japanese alphabet or are there any using the Latin (English) alphabet? Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 05:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Text is entirely in Japanese other than the title and author which is written as "K. Iwasaki" on front cover and "Libro" on cover, spine and title page. No mention of "Riburopōto" unless it's in Japanese on the very last page. Although it is 'tp' size is does have a dust wrapper. Image of my version [http://comic.bill.de/images/SUPERSPACE.jpg here]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Space Wars Fact and Fiction'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514055 this publication] and the use of the NONFICTION type: as stated above, these short works will have to be changed to ESSAY. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 06:16, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
This also appears to be a case where there should be a colon separating the man title from the subtitle, i.e. ''Space Wars: Fact and Fiction''. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 06:18, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Will change them to essays. I did wonder whether "Fact and Fiction" was or was not a subtitle as publication doesn't make this obvious but will add a colon to both title fields. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:31, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The World of The Wheel of Time'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?146011 this publication]: "Mitchel" or {{A|Ellisa Mitchell}}? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:48, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Mitchell (two Ls). Off to edit as I type. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:49, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Hoyle's ''Planet of Death'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514282 this publication]: It's missing the required SHORTFICTION content record. In cases like this, it's best to use the CLONE function with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?421110 the other record]. That way the contents would have been transferred. You will now have to import the SHORTFICTION content title record.
 
 
It's also possible this record wasn't necessary. Since it's identical to the other publication record, except for the price, and both stating "First Edition", it would have been better to contact the primary verifier and ask him to confirm the price. It could just be a typo.  [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:54, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I posted a message to Hauck about this. He suggested that "If it's strictly the same book, just add data in the notes with possibly a link in the notes" but I can only find thumbnail size version of art on my copy. Both my copies state "First edition" and their contents are identical except for the cover artwork. Undated reissue maybe ? Seems to be more trouble than it's workth so maybe delete the submission entirely ? I'll leave it up to you. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 21:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:[addendum]You state I should contact PV to check details but in this case there wasn't one. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 21:14, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Pete Young is given as the Primary Verifier of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?421110 this record]. Perhaps you're looking at a different record? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::The one I initially looked at was [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?421111 this book] which is unverified. I then looked at [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?421110 this book] which is indeed verified. I assumed because the version I had with a different cover was a separate entity I went ahead and added. Sorry about that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:51, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::I'm unsure why you would look at [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?421111 this book] when it's not the same as the book you added. What am I missing? I ask that you still contact Pete Young to reconcile the two records of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1611261 this title]. Thanks.  [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:48, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
(unindent). I looked at both records because I have both books. BUT both my copies have different covers than the ones entered but for all intents and purposes were identical even down to statement of "First Edition." In the end I only added ONE record (for Planet of Death) and the reason I didn't contact Pete Young is because he's verified the blue cover variant not the version I own. I'm not entirely sure what reconciling is to be done since he doesn't own the copy that I do. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Redux:
 
You were previously asked] to add a SHORTFICTION content to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514282 this record]. Since it continues to appear on an error report, I've gone ahead and added one for you. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:43, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Search for Spock Storybook'' ==
 
 
As in the previous submission, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514285 this CHAPBOOK] doesn't have the required SHORTFICTION content record. Cloning the other publication record would have copied the content to the new record. Please proceed to import the content from the original record. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:58, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Same situation with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514287 The Dune Storybook]. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:00, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Done and done (I hope). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 21:08, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Frontier Elite II: Stories of Life on the Frontier ==
 
 
I've accepted your submission to include the above titled new publication however it will need a bit more work, firstly in that the number of short fiction contents means this would be described as a COLLECTION and not a CHAPBOOK, a category which is for publications containing a single work of short fiction, not eight. (I suspect you selected Chapbook by mistake, but see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Publication_Type here] for the correct categories in case you're unsure.) Secondly, the page numbering for the contents indicates that all contents appear to be short stories, so the sub-category "shortstory" will need to be selected from the drop-down menu for each record. Thirdly, is there any indication that the author Kathy Dickinson may also be [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?129766 this cover artist] for two UK publications? If not, it may be appropriate to disambiguate the name (a "(I)" after her name would be sufficient). Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 12:21, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I'll make the necessary changes and thanks for the heads up re chapbook / collection. As for whether Kathy Dickinson is the same one as the artist the publication is less than helpful so I'd disambiguate to be on the safe side. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:39, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== L'art hyperréaliste fantastique de Wojtek Siudmak: Album 4 ==
 
 
I'm not sure what you are trying to do with the two submissions you have concerning [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514386 this pub], both of which I have on hold. One is to delete the pub as a duplicate, yet its [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1854539 title page] currently indicates there is only one pub in the database. The second submission then adds a cover to the pub you want to delete. Am I missing something here? ;) [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 12:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Sorry I made a complete balls up when entering these volumes. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26029 this page] shows two versions of Album 5, the one dated 1994 is the one that should be deleted as it has the wrong date. Since I'd initially submitted some incorrect information (including the date) for this volume I then tried to cancel the submission but since the titles were so long I obviously cancelled the wrong one and resubmitted a duplicate. The correct one to keep is the one dated 2001 along with the cover art I must have uploaded for the 1994 entry. Hope that clears things up. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:37, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::OK, I've tidied it up to the best of my understanding, however it leaves [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/1/19/SDMKRTFNTS2001.jpg this cover image] still unused, which you also uploaded for the 2001 edition of Album 5 and I then replaced with your art for the 1994 edition (if I have understood you correctly). I have recreated Album 4 but it's currently without the cover - is this where the above image goes? Could you review all the affected editions, and make any further edits as necessary if things still don't look right. Thanks again. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 13:23, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Maybe not as clear as I had intended. The unused artwork (the nude lady with wings) is actually for album 5 and the artwork (blue suspended chests / reclining lady on beach) already with the record for album 5 is actually the artwork for album 4. Otherwise the entries check out fine. Thanks for your patience. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:32, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::"Mai bpen rai", as we say in Thailand. :) [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 13:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The Complete Elfquest Graphic Novel'' series – printing dates ==
 
 
If the printing number lines for ''The Complete Elfquest Graphic Novel'' books end in any number other than 1, that indicates a later printing than the first, which is the date you have retained in the date field for these printings. I accepted your various submissions adding publication details to the notes but have reverted the date fields to "0000-00-00" (ie. unknown), because it's highly unlikely that 2nd, 3rd and 4th printings would be published in the same month as each publication's first printing. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 13:36, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Sorry I'm just beginning to get to grips with the number line series courtesy of ISFDB. If there is no stated date and only a copyright date I assume that I still put 0000-00-00 in date field and add copyright date into the note field. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:45, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::For later printings, yes, unless the copyright page also provides a date for that later printing. If the copyright page details only state the year, then use the year only (ie. "2015-00-00"). There's no specific need to also put the copyright date in the note field for every later printing. If the publication only states the year, you can often source a more accurate original publication date from the publisher's website (preferable) or Amazon (less preferable/reliable), but bear in mind this will only relate to that edition's first printing. Later printings indicated by 2, 3, 4 etc. should always be entered as "0000-00-00" unless a stated date for that particular printing is known. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 13:57, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::Thanks for the clarification. Secondary sources like Amazon are unreliable and some of the more obscure volumes in my collection don't have websites associated with their publishers. I use the book as the primary source of information. Maybe I'm recording too much in regards to copyright dates and inferring publication dates from them but at least you can retrospectively delete the extraneous information. Not easy to determine what should or should not be recorded. I'll bear your helpful suggestions in mind. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:05, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Film Fantasy Scrapbook ==
 
 
Hello, can you check the ISBN for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514409 this pub]? Thanks (note that I've regularized the publisher). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:00, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:That 900730498 number is printed on copyright page and preceded by "ISBN" I was too afraid of risking putting a zero in front of it in case I was wrong. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:12, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::"0" added. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Thanks. As an aside I note the only other book listed by that publisher is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251347 this book] which gives the 0-498 number. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:47, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Publisher for ''Spacecraft in Fact and Fiction'' / Price for ''A Gothic Bibliography'' ==
 
 
Hello, I have put your submission for this publication on hold, because we have already a publisher 'Orbis Books' on board (see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?362073 here]). Could this be the same as 'Orbis Publishing'? [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
I also put your submission for ''A Gothic Bibliography'' on hold. If I understand the help section on entering British prices right (see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Price here]), the Price should be entered either in Pounds or Shillings & Pence, not both. Are both prices stated in or on the book? [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 06:52, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
: 1. Orbis - Copyright page gives "Orbis Publishing Ltd, London."<br>2. Gothic Bibliography. Book was published 1941. Price printed on front flap of dust wrapper is "£6/15/- net in UK only" which would be six OLD pounds (not new). Hope that answers your questions. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:57, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Okay, will approve of them and change the price as seems fitting to the help pages. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:25, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Trek: Deep Space Nine The Unauthorized Story'' ==
 
 
There is an established publisher called Pioneer Books, that may alao be the one who did this book. Right now, this would be the only one by Pioneer (no Books). [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Yes sorry my fault. It is Pioneer Books. It was the only one of the James Van Hise items not listed. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Warp Graphics / Father Tree Press ==
 
 
I changed the publisher you entered as "Warp Graphics / Father Tree Press" to "Father Tree Press / Warp Graphics" to conform to the ISFDB standard of entering an imprint and its publisher. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:12, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Thanks. I wrote it that way because I had already seen one of the Elfquest books had it that way. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:37, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Inventorum Natura'' ==
 
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514407 This record] for a CHAPBOOK didn't have the required SHORTFICTION record. I imported them from the other primary verified record. Cloning the previous record in the db would have done this automatically. Keep this in mind when creating a publication record for a work which already has a record for a similar printing in the db. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 04:39, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Robots: Fact, Fiction, and Predictions ISFDB Title Record # 999677  ==
 
 
Hello, when approving your submission for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514832 this book], I took the liberty to change the publisher from "Thames and Hudon" to "Thames and Hudson". Hope it's correct. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Yes, thanks. Once again with the terrible typing. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:06, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Report on Planet Three'' ==
 
 
I'm holding a submission to add a new publication for this title which is identical to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?288414 this one] except for the publication date. Is the date of January 1973 stated in your copy? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 07:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Second impression January 1973 as stated on copyright page. And thanks for pointing out that I posted to my own page. I was suffering multiple window syndrome. It should have been posted elsewhere. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Submission accepted and note added. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:59, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Merry Christmas, Ms Minerva! ==
 
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?272023 This book].
 
 
Hello, as you're the first of us to have the book, can you tell if it's a novel or a collection? Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 09:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Page before title page has two paragraphs of text beginning "This powerful and horrific novel...." however it seems to be divided into two parts "Part One / Prelude" has 14 chapters (up to page 112), "Part Two / Horror" has three chapters (up to page 149), then and addendum. Seems like a novel to me. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Thanks, notes amended. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 09:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== CHAPBOOK ==
 
 
All records typed as CHAPBOOK must have either a SHORTFICTION or POEM content record. I've added one to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514920 this record]. Please remember this when creating CHAPBOOK-typed records. (Looking back on your talk page, it appears I've brought this to your attention on at least five different occasions.)  I've also added a content record for the INTERIORART. Thanks.  [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 07:54, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
I'm also waiting for a response to a [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Mavmaramis#Empire post] made several days ago. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 07:54, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Will do. I edited that record already. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:57, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Worm Ouroboros ==
 
 
Hi, just pulled out the book. Mine is the 3rd printing with ISBN as quoted (0-330-23841-8). Pan is on the spine, but Pan/Ballantine on the title page. --[[User:Unapersson|Unapersson]] 08:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Crediting Other Publications ==
 
 
When crediting another publication (like you did with the cover art credit for {{P|166411|The Crack in Space}}), please don't just provide a link to the publication, but also provide the publication's name. While publication ids are intended to be stable, there are some rare cases where they can change. While it's unlikely, it's better to have the publication name if down the road the link does break. Hence, I changed the notes in that pub from "Cover art credit from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 this publication]" to "Cover art credit from <i>[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476572 Dangerous Frontiers:The Fight for Survival on Distant Worlds]</i>". Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok I'll do that from now on. Thanks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:13, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Secondary Sourcing ==
 
 
I accepted your edit to {{P|443382|Doctor Who and the Visitation}}. I noticed you have primary verified it, but you left the "Data from 'The Tardis Library' and 'Doctor Who Toybox'" statement in the notes. When data comes from secondary sources, that needs to be noted in the book. However, when the book is primary verified, the data should come from the book first and secondary sources only for data that is not physically on the book. If there is something from secondary sources, then the note should specify what data. Since you have primary verified this, the note needs to be updated. If all the data is present in the book, the note should be removed. If something is not present in the book, then the note should be updated to say what information is from the secondary source. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:11, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Sometimes I'm unsure of erasing the notes when PVing especially if that secondary sources gives a month (for example) and I don't have access to that source. Maybe I'm erring on the side of caution to leave it in --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:14, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::In that example, you could say something like "No date other than year. Publication date from SOURCE." Not having access to the secondary source is fine. You can either assume the person who originally added the publication correctly entered it based on the secondary source or find an alternative (dates from Amazon for example). --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:40, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Independent's Banned Books series ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?515584 this publication]: Many internet sources say this series was published in 2007. Those sources can be used to date the publication. Also, what is intended by the page count field? Those curved brackets aren't in the ISFDB standards. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 01:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:That was the effect of pressing the shift key. There are 4 unnumbered pages of text after page 157. I'll correct the typo. I had a bad feeling that I'd put the series title in the wrong box. I have four more from the series but probably won't enter then at this juncture. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:42, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::If those four unnumbered pages of text are part of the novel, then the page count should be 156 with a note about the unnumbered pages. Thenks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Four unnumbered pages are a Glossary and not part of the novel. Also was I correct in putting the series in 'Pub Series' field or should it have gone into the 'Series' field ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:57, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::You should add a note explaining the +[4]. The series was correctly entered. Rule of thumb: Ask yourself "If this work had been (or were to be) published by another publisher would it be in this series?" If the answer is no, 99% of the time it's a publication series. Please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to_work_with_series this help page] about the differences in title series and publication series. It would also be a good idea to bookmark [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:How_to this list] of common tasks on the ISFDB. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:04, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::Note added. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:09, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Cover art credit for ''If the Stars Are Gods'' ==
 
 
I changed the artist credit of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?201905 this record] from "Anthony Roberts" to {{A|Tony Roberts}}. If the credit is not stated in the publication and comes from a secondary source, you should always use the canonical form of the artist's name. This also applies to credit based solely on an artist's signature. For example, if the cover isn't credited, but there is a clear signature for "EMSH", you should credit it to {{A|Ed Emshwiller}} and note the signature as the source. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:36, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Roberts is tricky as I've seen his name credited as "Tony" (especially in the Cowley books) and other times as "Anthony" (where credited on the rear of books). I'll use his canonical name from now on. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:41, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Since both names are used, we had to determine which was canonical and which was a pseudonym. Since the overwhelming majority have been credited to "Tony", it was made into the canonical name. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Cover art credit for ''Protector'' ==
 
 
The source you give for the cover art credits Gambino, not Roberts for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?26855 this 1992 edition]. I'll accept the submission, but revert the cover art credit. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:53, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
You might want to ask the verifier of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?271960 this record] about its cover art credit. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:58, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:I never use Abebooks as source for data on artists. Data was likely already present in the notes prior to my PV. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 20:16, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::The whole things was muddled from the very start due to the fact that the same book cover artwork for the 1976 edition was used for the 1992 edition's record. The artwork for the 1976 edition is as stated on the link Tony Roberts but as Hauck is right to point out one can never be quite sure how reliable the secondary sources are or indeed where they obtain their information from. The image is not on Robert's website not does it appear in a Google image search. I once had a copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?363189 The Orbit Poster Book] within which was this illustration but as far as I can recall none of the posters had the artists credited. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:41, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::The records will have to be reconciled, since it's obvious they have the same art now credited to two different artists. I'll step aside and let you two hash it out. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:33, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
::::I've left Gambino as artist for the 1992 pb (even if there seems to exist no image of it) and deleted the image. Either the 1976 or the 1977 Orbit had probably the same cover (the price match) but I don't know witch one (or both). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:11, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Thanks Hauck. Apologies for compounding an error. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:19, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Dates ==
 
 
Hello, just note that we don't use for date the writing date at the end of a text (generaly for a preface, an introduction or an afterword) but the publication date, so in Sturgeon's case the date will stay at 1978 (you can add the 1977 wrinting date in the note if you want). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:51, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Another "logical inconsistency" I'll have to get my brain around in regards to the way things are recorded. Someone once told me to "stop trying to organise chaos." --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::In this case, I found this quite logical, the writing date is bibliographically speaking meaningless. IMHO a text really "exists" only when published. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:08, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::Idiosyncrasy and me don't get along but you make an excellent point. It's that 'minutiae' stuff again. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:14, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== In the Future: Entertainment Design at Art College of Design ==
 
 
Hello, in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516465 this pub] is the first essey titled "Foreward" or "Foreword"? [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Is not "Center" part of the title? The name of the school is the Art Center College of Design. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:27, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::(a) Foreword. (b) Yes it is. Edited. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:14, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Why would a school in California spell their name "Centre" and not "Center"? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:35, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::Edited (again). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:09, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Mind-Breaks of Space'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346164 this publication]: If Jones is credited as the co-author, then the record was created under the wrong title (the one crediting only Butterworth). If you can not find the title in the database with the author(s) credit and title matching exactly, you should use the "Add New Novel" function, and then variant it, if needed, to the canonical title. After you see this, I'll unmerge your record from the current title, and variant its title. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:06, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:The Alan Wingate hardcover edition was already listed. Not sure how to variant a title once it's created and submitted. The entries for this book are probably incorrect if as stated on the title page of my hardcover edition the author(s) are Butterworth and Jones. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::To make a title into a variant, click on the "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" under the Editing Tools menu. (This assumes that the title doesn't already have an existing variant.) If the parent title exists in the database, enter its record number in the first field and click the "Link to Existing Parent" button.  If the parent title doesn't exist go to the bottom half of the entry form and make all the necessary changes of the fields and click the "Create New Parent Title" button. Ask at the [[ISFDB:Help desk]] if you need assistance. I will now unmerge your publication from its current title and then variant the newly created title record with the existing one. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:35, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''A Step Farther Out'' ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?517681 this publication]: the split publications appeared in 1981, so it's not likely that this "recombined" edition appeared in 1980. Also, the page count field should just simply be "197+200". We don't count blank pages unless they appear within a continuous range of numbered pages. You can also add page numbers for the contents using the "pipe" method. Ask if you need help in learning how to do that. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I had a feeling this Star volume would be problematic. I can only go by the book I have in my hands which does not have an initial title or copyright page. I'll edit the page numbering. As for this 'pipe' method of which you speak I cloned the hardback edition assuming (as the contents were already listed) that would be ok - obviously not. I'll add a cover scan but it won't be the full wraparound due to the rectangular gold diamond pattern embossing on my copy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:26, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::You should zero out the publication date field if there is no internal evidence of that, and you have no reliable secondary source.
 
 
::The hardcover edition you cloned didn't have page numbers for the contents so the record you created wouldn't have them either, unless you entered them manually during the cloning submission. The pipe method of entering page numbers for the contents can be used when books (like this one) have two or more separate ranges of page numbers. The page numbers of the contents in the first range of numbers are entered normally. The page numbers of the contents in the next range of numbers are entered using the pipe method. So the page number of a work appearing on the first page of the second range would be entered as "1|1001". The number after the pipe is chosen by the editor, but must be at least larger than the highest number of the first range of numbers, but lower than the pipe number of the next content.  The content title would be displayed after the last content of the first range with its actual page number. The number after the pipe is the order in which the content appears and is not displayed. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 14:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)]
 
 
(unindent)I suspect it is the 1980 edition however I'll zero the date. The method you describe above is (a) complicated and (b) really confusing - what does "must be at least larger than the highest number of the first range of numbers" even mean reads like complete gibberish to me. Is there not an easier way say 1|1 to n where the number before the line is the volume and n is the page number and 2|1 to n etc. I don't feel confident enough to do all that without making large numbers of mistakes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:10, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:An example: a publication has two ranges of numbers: the first has pages 1 through 197 and the second has pages 1 through 200. This happens for dos-a-dos books (e.g. Ace Doubles) or in a rebound publication like yours. All of the page numbers of the contents of the first range can be entered as you would any publication with contents. If you entered the contents of the second range of numbers the same way the system automatically sorts them numerically mixing the contents of the first range with those from the second range.  In our example, there are five contents in the second range of numbers starting on pages 3, 45, 97, 129, and 163. The page numbers can be entered as 3|203, 45|245, 97|297, 129|329, 163|363. But you can use any number after the pipe as long as they ascend in the order in which the contents appear and the first one is higher than the highest number in the first range of numbers. In this case, the highest  page number in the first range was 197, so I arbitrarily chose 200 as the first pipe number in the second range, but it could have been any number as long as it was higher than 197.
 
 
:Look at how the contents are displayed in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?336237 this record], then click on "edit" to see how the content pages were entered. Without the pipe, the system would mix the contents of the two collections, sorting them numerically.
 
 
:As a lesson for future reference, enter the content page numbers into [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?517681 the record] of your verified copy without using the pipe system. Once accepted by a moderator, you will see that the contents have been mixed when displayed in the record. Then go back and use the pipe method to enter the page numbers of the contents in the second part of the book. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:23, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::That explains things better so thanks. I'll have to re-dig my copy out of the back of the cupboard where it got re-stuffed and make an attempt but that won't be tonight as I'm already tripping over piles of books as it is. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Reprint of Gollancz's ''Between Planets'' ==
 
 
Adding any stated printing information in the Note field of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518073 this record] will prevent any confusion between it and the 1968 printing. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:30, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok I'll amend the entry. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:33, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Image size exceptions ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Image:PDKNFMRSPG1977.jpg this image file]: If you upload a file showing a wraparound jacket art, an exception to the 600 pixel standard can be made. As long it isn't more than 600 pixels tall, and the file isn't more than 200kb, it should be fine. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:34, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I've been sticking to the 600 limit (largest dimension) as per the upload guidelines. Seems fine with the wraparound artwork on paperbacks. If memory serves me correctly the two Heinlein ones I uploaded (Podkayne of Mars and Glory Road) are the only two pieces of artwork that extend across the entire dust wrapper. They look ok on my end - at least enough to be able to identify the publication. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:42, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Painting of a domed city ==
 
 
Thanks for the offer; here are photos of the [https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6p07rtau9vhzoy/domed-city-full-res.jpg?dl=0 full painting] and [https://www.dropbox.com/s/sbe645io6rxn05w/2014-09-10%2019.38.09.jpg?dl=0 signature]. [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 17:28, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
: Thanks for having a look. The closest I've seen in style is computer pioneer Konrad Zuse, who [http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SXy_m9JUiRI/AAAAAAAA4h4/1tGGgemR1xQ/s640/rtthsethsdt.jpg painted in his spare time] and [http://www.rtd-net.de/rtd-artexpo-94.html in retirement]. The signatures I've seen for him are not a particularly good match though. The search continues... [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 18:56, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Your welcome although I'm sorry I couldn't be more help. I can see what you mean although to my (untrained) eye your image looks more like standard painting than painting on a computer. As for suggesting other avenues of exploration - perhaps you could email the chap who runs [http://70sscifiart.tumblr.com/ this site]. I wish you well in your search. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:06, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::I took a peek at the image, and it really looks like something created by a street artist I watched a few months ago in Reading, England. The technique and end result look very similar to things he created in 5-10 minutes using a box of enamel spray paints, a few cardboard stencils and a spatula. May I ask where you found this? [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 00:43, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::A colleague received it as a gift from someone who was cleaning out his parent's place, and didn't have much information other than that it was given directly to his parents by the artist, who was "a famous sci-fi artist", which of course should be taken with an XL grain of salt. No real sense as to the time frame or location of the gift. [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 15:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Thanks for the extra info Albino. I did have to chuckle at that "famous sci-fi artist" bit. Trouble with "fame" is that it is pretty much a catch-all and it's pretty wooly terminology to the uninitiated. Since you live in the US it may well be worth further investigation - perhaps you could look into finding someone who "knows their stuff" like an expert (auction house, art dealer as examples) - like the X Files "the truth is out there" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:49, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:True, although I have assumed from the start that the answer to this mystery will ultimately be rather anticlimactic. [[User:Albinoflea|Albinoflea]] 13:01, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Now that answer truly did make me chuckle and that's not to be disparaging against you just my extremely weird sense of humour. But at least when you do finally find the answer it'll be somewhat of a relif no doubt. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:53, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Best of Science Fiction 10 ==
 
 
Hello, can you check the ISBN of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518330 this pub]? Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 19:57, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:The number as printed on spine/front cover seems to have 10 digits but no leading zero thus: 583 (new line) 11138 (new line) 6 (new line) 2. Suspect that last digit (2) is erronious. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::In such cases (british pbs of the 70s), the lone "2" indicates a second printing which is confirmed by your notes. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 20:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Thanks for that nugget (small factoid) of info. Always nice to learn something new. Interesting to note it was given a third variant tile by Mayflower. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== A Sense of Wonder ==
 
 
Hello, I've changed the date to "0000-00-00" for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?201117 this pub] as the true 1974-12 publication is very likely [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?349855 this one] that you also own. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Yes your right. Didn't catch that at the time. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:29, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Hugo Winners 1963-1967 ==
 
 
Hi. Concerning the date of this pub, I had answered you [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Linguist#Hugo_Winners_1963-1967 here], but you might have missed it. Two points :
 
* As I wrote, my copy also has “First published […] in 1973”, bu how can you be sure this is not a later reprint ?
 
* You seem to have written “1972” [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?155251 in the notes] (or is it someone else ?). Thanks for checking. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:26, 7 June 2015 (UTC).
 
 
:Well I'm guessing that we can't be sure although Sphere were pretty good at noting reprints on the copyright page. As for the 1972 in the note - I *think* that was there before I edited it and slipped through. I'll go change it now. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:14, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Book of Merlyn ==
 
 
Hello, I've replaced the ISBN (that didn't compute, it's probably a serial number) by the Catalog ID for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?519115 this pub]. BTW, be careful with the HTML syntax, when not properly used, it results in awful displays, a list should be constructed like this : <nowiki><ul>
 
<li>.
 
<li>.
 
<li>.
 
<li>.
 
<li>.
 
</ul></nowiki>.[[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:13, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Thanks Hauck. I copied the notes from another edition as they were cimmon with the one I added. ISBN as stated on copyright page is "0 00 222045 8" so wasn't aware that it wouldn't compute. Normally I use "br" in <> to differentiate new lines in my notes. But it's all a learning curve. I'll add that non computing ISBN to the notes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::It didn't compute because you added a "1" (IIRC the ISBN you gave was "0 00 1222045 8"), everything is now OK. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 20:09, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Trivana 1  ==
 
 
Hello, just in case, how is titled [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?335130 this book]: "Trivana One" (as on cover) or "Trivana 1" as entered? Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 09:51, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Titled as "Trivana One" on dust wrapper, "Trivana I" on title page - note capital letter I not numeral 1. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:54, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Thanks, We'll let the "1" as there is another publication with it. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 09:59, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::No problem since there are only two editions of the book anyway. Also thanks for responding re the interior art query - hope I've been getting it right (albeit a few typos and interior art noted as shortfiction - all now corrected). Your comments and guidance are appreciated. It will soon be time to move the sofa forwards to get at the bookcase hidden behind it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Fantasy Art Techniques of Tim Hildebrandt  ==
 
 
Hello, I've approved your submission for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514406 this title] but there are two items that are marked as "SHORTFICTION", perhaps should they be changed to "INTERIORART". [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:19, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Yes indeed - that's one of the issues which having to do contents - adding 20-30 blank titles and forgetting to change one (or more) to interiorart. Thanks for picking that up I *think* I managed to coreect some of the others that were inadvertantly marked as shortfiction. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:23, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Stewart Cowley Pictorals ==
 
 
Please participate in [[User_talk:Willem_H.#Strange_Visitors:_The_Return_of_the_Malmo|this discussion]]. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:15, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:A couple more items for this publication:
 
:*For the story on p82, Willem has it as "Beta" and you as "Delta". Would you double check that also?
 
:*Your artwork is not disambiguated consistently. Please see {{P|273437|Willem's publication}} for comparison. I believe your version should match his. If you are in agreement, I would like to fix this as it would be easier for my to do instead of you have to do multiple submissions.
 
:I'm assuming when you entered this pub, you typed all the contents manually? If so, a better way would have been to clone the existing publication if you were adding the new one. Or if you were adding the contents to an existing publication that did not have contents, importing the contents from the other publication. Either way is much easier - both in not having to type all the contents and also in not having to merge all the contents (when you manually entered them, it created new records for each content that had to be manually merged with the old ones). Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:06, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::I was entering them manually since the contents wern't listed - at least for some of those editions. And yes contents are identical so go right ahead and merge. Those that I did add manually did not have other editions to merge from so I was forced to enter the contents manually since there was no other way to do it. BTW I don't think that the interor art listed in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273437 this] Exeter edition ("The Willem Book") should have dates after them. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:17, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:::While the contents were not in the UK edition, they were in the US (Willem's verified copy) edition. If you run into this again, on the publication you wish to add contents to, click the "Import Content" link and on that page, you can give it the publication id of the pub to import from. That will add the contents without you having to type them all. It also avoids needing to merge the duplicate records created when you manually entered them.
 
:::I have fixed the interior art records. Please take a look again to ensure all looks good.
 
:::Willem's verified copy should indeed gave dates after them. Since the UK edition is dated before the US edition, all the records in the US edition will show dates. ISFDB does not display the date of contents if it is the first appearance and does if it isn't.
 
:::Let me know if you have any questions. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Everything looks fine. I think I'm done with content records for art portfolios for now - at least those in my collection/those I've PVd that didn't have any are concerned. I've also edited the title since this discussion became more generic in regards to the Cowley books. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Pseudonyms and variants ==
 
 
Hello, when you enter a "pseudonomystic" item, you also have to variant it in a later phase to the canonical name. For example, all the titles presently attributed to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207683 Steven Caldwell] will have to be varianted to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 Stewart Cowley]. The same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?55021 Melwyn] (to variant to "Melwyn Grant") and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?32048 Segrelles] to "Vincent Segrelles". Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 13:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:All well and good but you neglect to tell me how to do this. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:24, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::OK, let's proceed : you choose the first title by clicking on it, then click the "•Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work " link on the left, then use the bottom of the screen by substituating the canonical name to the existing one in the "Author1" field, then send the changes by clicking on "Create New Variant Title". [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 13:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Title of what - the book, the story ?? Besides which these volumes are already listed under Stewart Cowley [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?114553 thus]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:49, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::The title of each story (or interior art or cover or whatever). The objective is to "void" the page of the pseudonym (e.g. Caldwell's) to obtain a page like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?2847 this one] where all the titles by Suragne [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/ta_search.cgi?exact%3D2847 that you still can "see" here] have been transfered to the "Pelot" page [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?567 there]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:05, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
(unindent)Can't do it from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424 this page] because the option isn't there can only do it from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1771246 this page]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:12, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:The best starting point is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207683 Caldwell's page], start from the top of the shortfiction list, you'll see the items progressively diseappear from the page after each approved variant. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:27, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Righty ho. If you'd pointed me there in the first place it would have been so much easier. Just to get things straight I go [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?207683 here] click on a [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1869088 title], click "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" and replace Steven Caldwell in Author1 with Stewart Cowley. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Exactly. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:49, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::Whoo hoo the system works. What an achievemnt. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:01, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
Wait for the next problematic phase (linking an INTERIORART record to a COVERART with a pseudonym). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:19, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
(unindent)Look I'm laughing (well you would if you had a webcam). So ok tell me how to link these artworks to the respective books upon which they appear - I'm assuming you're referring to the Melvyn (not Melwyn as you typed) and Segrelles pseudonyms - not that I know the books these ones came from mind. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::For example, you presently have a variant relationship between the couple (title #1868996) "Battledawn"/"Melvyn" ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1868996 this one]) and "Battledawn"/"Melvyn Grant" ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1869875 that one #1868995]). When you'll find the original cover book "Book X"/"Melvyn Grant" you will have to create a new relationship between "Battledawn"/"Melvyn" and "Book X"/"Melvyn Grant" by going to the first item, use again "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" and replacing the ID present (1869875 in this case) by the titleID of "Book X"/"Melvyn Grant". This will leave the title "Battledawn"/"Melvyn Grant" (#1869875) dangling (without any publication), it will then have to be deleted by "Delete This Title". [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 19:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Ok let's take an example that has been used as a book cover. (Note that I may not be able to find all such cases as I don't know the books they were used on especially if they're not pictured).
 
Title as in Caldwell: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1868896 here]
 
Actual title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1007323 here] - I *think*
 
 
So I click "Make variant" on first link then.....uhhh....replace the parent number dispkayed with the other number the 2nd link - at least having it appended there would make more sense.
 
 
I'm not going to do a trial run until you point out any (obvious) errors. That all sounds rather complicated - someone really must make an easier way to do it.--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:20, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== A Hannes Bok Showcase  ==
 
 
Another editor has added the individual art for another edition of our mutually verified ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263544 A Hannes Bok Showcase]''.  See [[User talk:Rtrace#A Hannes Bok Showcase|this discussion]].  Before I import the individual titles from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?508810 this edition], I wanted to make sure that you have no objections.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 01:33, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Hi Ron, thanks for alerting me to this. Everything looks fine - my hardcover has the fep illstration also and a scan of a dozen or so random pages confirms contents as identical, however, I do have one minor point the entry "vii • Foreword (A Hannes Bok Showcase) • essay by Frederik Pohl" in my copy is titled "Remebering Hannes" otherwise I have no objections to you importing the contents. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:38, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Artwork credit ==
 
 
Hello, when the author's credit comes form a signature or a secondary source, you should enter directly the canonical name, so instead of J. Cawthorn for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290746 this pub], you should enter James Cawthorn (I've done the modifications for you). For the varianting of interior art, you're on the right track. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok thanks for that - another tip to remember. Good that I figured it out during the last few days of not much sleep. I'll get going and do the others for those Cowley books but it means having three windows open - oh well. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== (The) Garden on the Moon ==
 
 
Hello, for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281170 this pub], can you confirm that it's indeed "Garden on the Moon" on title page as opposed to "The Garden on the Moon" on cover. Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:The Garden on the Moon - sorry I've had so much stuff swirling around my brain - I'm going to post something odd on your talk page in a moment so watch out ! --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:00, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Structura ==
 
 
Uploaded cover for your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513936 here]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:02, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Great thanks. Book to big for my lowly A4 scanner. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Inserting fictive months in publication date for ordering purposes ==
 
 
Hello, I'm not that keen on such practice that is contrary to the Help and the "spirit" of the db. I've reverted your changes. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Hmm...well I have seen other entries like that. But I'll bow to your superiority. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:45, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Yes, so have I. There are talks of a new field "printing rank" that could solve such problems. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 12:20, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Then again someone's *bound* to say "ahh yes but the number line series takes care of that" except of course whete there is no number line series. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:21, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Varianting ==
 
 
Hello, as I rejected some of your submissions, here's a quick rule of the thumb for varianting : the more recent title is always varianted to the older one, so the ID to enter is the one of the chronologically first title. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:18, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:Thanks. It's those pesky duplicate covers I keep coming across and then I have to remember where the 'other oine I saw a while ago' was in the list. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:20, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Yes, it happens to me all the time ("Where the hell did I see this cover?"), the larger your collection of books, the more difficult it becomes. BTW the db is going to be shut down in a few minutes (14:30 GMT), you'll be able to see the effects. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Proteus  ==
 
 
Hello, I've changed the artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273896 this pub] from "Colin Andrews" to "Colin Andrews (artist)". Hope that I was right. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 09:09, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I assume so. Another case of checking the name first before entering to see if there are duplications. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Airmont edition of ''King Solomon's Mines'' ==
 
 
Hi, I've put your submission for that publication on hold, because we already have a publisher called 'Airmont Books' with a publication series 'Airmont Classics' in the database. Would the copy you have at hand fit into these existing slots? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 18:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Yes it would. I should have looked up the publisher first. So little time so many books.... --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:33, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Oh, don't fret. If you do it slower or faster: the amount of things to do seems to me as remaining constant (I approved and did the corrections). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 19:26, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Purpose of my notification page ==
 
 
Your note on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Mhhutchins/Changes_to_Verified_Pubs this page] about making a correction to my verified record for ''The Secret Songs'' should have been made on my talk page and not on my notification page. Please keep this in mind when making changes to any record for which I am the primary verifier. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:55, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I followed your notifications statement: "If you've come here to inform me that you wish to make a submission to add a COVER IMAGE or NOTES to any of my primary verified records, please click here" As I was merely adding a NOTE I clicked - seems clear to me that it was posted to the correct page and forgive me if I'm totally confused about where such notes go - I got moaned at by you for posting something similar on your talk page only to be told by you that it should have gone on your notification page. Make your mind up where you want the "addition to NOTES" to go - talk page or notification page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:13, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::I misunderstood your message, mistakenly assuming that the change was made to both the cover art field and the note field. Please forgive me. Also, just tell me I was wrong.  The tone of my original post was civil, and your response was not. Please keep that in mind when corresponding with your fellow editors. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 15:57, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::My emotional stability is delicate at best and they can get knocked out of kilter by the most (seemingly to others) innocuous things and I become frustrated and over emotional. Sorry if the tone of my reply was harsh. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Big Deep ==
 
 
Hello, can you add the content to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?522216 this chapbook], it appears on our cleanup report. Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:55, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
I added the missing (and required) SHORTFICTION content record to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?522216 this publication]. Keep this in mind when creating publication records typed as CHAPBOOK. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Sorry, I didn't see the above message asking for you to add the missing content. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:52, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::I thought that like adding a new novel the content would be added automatically. I wasn't sure about whether it was a novel or a chapbook but being only 93 pages I thought I'd err on the side of caution and go for Chapbook [note this entry has been edited together]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Think of a CHAPBOOK as a single-content collection. Every CHAPBOOK record must have one content record typed as SHORTFICTION or POEM. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:13, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Frankenstein'' ==
 
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523028 This publication] should have been entered under the existing title record. Using the "New Novel" function created a new title which will have to be merged with the existing one. Also, I change the publisher to "Bantam Books", the standard designation for this publisher. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I couldn't do that since the copy I have doesn't have the subtitle and there wasn't a relevent ediion to clone from. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::The publication you added matches exactly the author and title of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?28692 this record]. You should have gone to that record and used the "Add Publication to This Title" function, and not the "Add New Novel" function. Please merge the titles when you get a chance. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:37, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::BTW, you should only clone when the editions match, but there's a been a change in the price, ISBN, printing, etc. Otherwise use the "Add Publication" function. You avoid the common mistake of forgetting to change all of the fields when you clone improperly from a similar record. In fact, I recommend that you only use the clone function when there are contents (like in a collection or anthology) and you want to avoid entering them again and merging them. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:41, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::For example, it was unnecessary to use the clone function to enter [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?523029 this record]. It would have been easier to use the "Add Publication" function. You wouldn't have needed to overwrite all of those fields and decreasing the chances of mistakenly carrying over data from the original record. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::Can't find where to merge the titles. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:48, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::There are two methods. The easiest: go to the author's summary page and click on the "Check for Duplicate Titles" link under the Editing Tools menu. On the next page find the titles that match and check the boxes of those you wish to merge. Second method: go to advanced search and enter "Frankenstein" in the first box (under "Title"), "Mary Shelley" in the next field (change dropdown menu to "Author"), and "NOVEL" in the last field (as "Title Type"). There are going to be more matching titles using this method so you have to find those two that match '''exactly''', keeping the language field in mind. The date field is not going to necessarily match, since the publication you added gave the date of the title as 1981. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::The author's introduction will have to be merged with the existing title as well. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 20:39, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
(unindent)I went by the first method and found the two records (for title and for the author intro) and merged them. Hopefully that is correct. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:You've made one submission that merged the introduction. You have to make another submission to merge the title record of the publication. Look at Shelley's page under '''Novels''' and under '''Fiction series'''. The one under '''Novels''' is the publication you added. Click on the "Check for Duplicate Titles" link and you'll see the two titles at the top of the page still need to be merged. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I'm hoping that should have sorted things out. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:44, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Crediting uncredited cover art ==
 
 
When crediting cover art based on secondary sources, you must credit as the canonical form of the artist's name, regardless of how it is credited in the secondary source. For example, I changed the credit you added to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278893 this record] from "David Hardy" to "David A. Hardy". This also applies to credit based on artists' signatures. If "EMSH" is visible on the artwork of an uncredited cover, you should credit the work to "Ed Emshwiller and not "Emsh". You only credit to "Emsh" if there is a stated credit, i.e. "Cover art by Bmsh". Then the record is varianted to the canonical artist. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:34, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:The cover art credit did not come from a secondary source it came from the primary source - as stated - where his name is given as "David Hardy". No idea where you got the idea the credit came from a secondary source. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:42, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Sorry. In my haste I misread the note. I'll make the correction and the variant. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 19:45, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Twenty Years of Art: Elmore'' ==
 
 
I would think that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514571 this collection] of his art should be credited to Larry Elmore. Also, "Art Fantastix Select" appears to be a publisher series and not a title series. Thanks. 13:37, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:Correction made. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:04, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''"The" Naked Lunch'' by "William Burroughs" ==
 
 
Can you confirm the title and author credit given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513263 this record] reflects those given on the book's title page? If this edition was published as ''The Naked Lunch'' by "William Burroughs", then the publication was entered under the wrong title record and will have to be unmerged from its current record and then varianted to the it. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:36, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:The Naked Lunch. William Burroughs. As per title page. I'm hesitant to do the unmerging myself incase I get it wrong. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:40, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::I'll do it for you. I'll first have to correct the publication record's title and author credit.  In the future, go to the parent record and click on the link "Unmerge Titles" in the Editing Tools menu. On the next screen select the publication(s) you want to unmerge. Once that's accepted by a moderator, the publication record has a new title record. Then you decide if it has to be varianted or merged to a title already in the database. If they match exactly (title and author), you merge. If there is a difference in either title or author, you variant. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::I managed to figure out the first part - i.e. "go to the parent record and click on the link "Unmerge Titles" in the Editing Tools menu. On the next screen select the publication(s) you want to unmerge" and selected the Corgi 1976 edition to unmerge. Hoping that was the right thing to do. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:47, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''(The) Master of the World'' ==
 
 
You entered [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?525118 this publication] under a title record which doesn't match the title field. Is there a "The" given on the book's title page? [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:46, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I went ahead and unmerged it from the "The" title record, and varianted the new title record. I also added several other publications (most from Airmont) which had dropped the "The". [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 22:50, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::"Master of the World" on title page. I cloned one of the earlier Airmont editions that was already listed. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Price obscured ==
 
 
You should add a note that the price of the PV1 copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?525314 this publication] has been obscured. Otherwise a user may safely assume, and incorrectly, that it is not priced at all. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 18:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I'll do that, thanks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:07, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== New art credits ==
 
 
Hi, and thanks for your thorough work on art credits ! One thing though : when you add the name of an artist in a record, I think it might be a good idea to replace at the same time the “unknown" entry by the new name on the image page (as I have just done for [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Image:THSRNSFTTN1979.jpg ''The Sirens of Titan''], for instance). TIA, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 19:44, 10 July 2015 (UTC).
 
 
== Smith's "The City of the Singing Flame"  ==
 
 
Please see [[User talk:Bluesman#Smith's "The City of the Singing Flame"|this discussion]].  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 02:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:Also [[User talk:Willem H.#Smith's "The City of the Singing Flame"|this one]] regarding another reprint.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 12:28, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== cover signed ==
 
 
Cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279761 Infinity Flight] is signed right at right bottom corner by Bob Layzell. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 11:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Cover artist ==
 
 
Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?127461 The Hollow Lands] is credited at ISFDB Publication Record # 506657 for Bob Haberfield. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 16:01, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Rick or Richard Courtney ==
 
 
Is the piece on page 155 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?246921 this publication] explicitly co-credited to "Rick Courtney"? If so, can you compare it to the works of {{A|Richard Courtney}}, and determine if a variant should be created? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 23:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok to answer your first question. Artwork is titled as "Cover for Heavy Metal (with Rick Courtney)" the artwork is signed "© 1979 / R. Corben / R. Courtney" As to your second question since the artwork is a combined piece it is uncertain to me as to which elements are by Courtney. I browsed through the cover art gallery of Richard Courtney and my answer would be I don't know (maybe ?). Comparing the signiature on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/e/e7/MRCHNTRSLC1982.jpg Merchanter's Luck] and [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/3/30/THSNBNDBBR1981.jpg Sunbound] they look similar (if indeed he signed the Corben piece as opposed to Corben writing his name under his own) although the tail of the Y is not as long as on those two pices. That's all I can say on the matter. Sorry if it hasn't been a definitive answer. It's "probably" the same guy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::We've determined since I posted this message that Rick Courtney is the same artist as Richard Courtney, and since the piece is ''explicitly'' credited to Rick Courtney, we'll variant the work to Richard Courtney. Thanks for responding. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 16:01, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== {{p|27067|''Quantum Special 1''}} ==
 
 
You seem to be the primary verifier of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?27067 Quantum Special 1] I noticed you have this titled as ''Quantum Science Fiction Special''. Where did you get that title from (the title and/or copyright page perhaps)? The cover seems to specify otherwise. Anyway, that aside I believe this should be part of a Sidgwick & Jackson publication series which I have for now called "Quantum Special". I made a submission to add this to such a series. Can you approve and verify this? If you are verifying such things perhaps you an also update the page numbers. Thanks. [[User:Uzume|Uzume]] 23:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Title page has "Quantum Science Fiction" (over) "Special 1" - back cover of dust wrapper has the following text: "Quantum Science Fiction, an international publishing venture presenting the best in modern science fiction." Page numbering is correct (333+237) so no updating is necessary and I don't do approvals that's down to moderators. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:53, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::I only meant to approve it insofar as a moderator can see your comment of approval of the change and approve my submission thereby affecting the change. Thanks for the feedback. [[User:Uzume|Uzume]] 03:46, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::My comments on approval are neither nere nor there, if the moderator decides your changes are fine he'll approve them otherwise he won't. I have little to do with it other than to suggest that you should have called the series "Quantum Science Fiction Special" which would have been more accurate according to the title page of my omnibus edition. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:56, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?391430 The Pentateuch of the Cosmogony] ==
 
 
I used my vacation to read the booklet of my CD edition of this. For me, the text turned out as a science fiction novelette (the framing story) with a mythological creation story found in the derelict alien space ship. So, shouldn't this be a CHAPBOOK (as the music - by Greenslade - isn't eligible for ISFDB as far as I understand the help pages)? What do you think? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 11:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:The original version was published as a 12" sized hardback book with the vinyl LPs in sleeves pasted into the front and rear of the covers. From what I understand, although Wiki neither confirms nor denies, the music by Greenslade is actually supposed to be an accompaniment to the book - hence it's issued by Dragon's World in conjunction with EMI (the record label). The book has the EMI logo on the spine and copyright page has "Marketed and distrubuted by EMI". It'#s actually quite a wonderfully produced item and although I no longer own a record player it's one of a small selection of vinyl LPs I have retained (for obvious reasons). I bought my copy in 1995 and paid the princely sum of £25 for it. Although the transformation from 12" to 5" was reasonably successful I don't think the CD copy does the original justice. Anyway all that to omne side feel free to change to CHAPBOOK as, since it's only 48 pages and it's a lot of illutsrations I'd be inclined to agree that it's a CHAPBOOK. Whether or not the music actually qualifies as "speculative fiction" I'll leave for higher authorities to decide, although to be honest, the entry for the publication mentions the music so as far as I'm concerned it is included by default. Hope these notes have been of use/interest. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Yes, I'd love to have the art more big, in CD booklet format some details just aren't recognizable anymore.
 
::From the sections on [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Content_Information what to include] it's quite clear that music isn't eligible. Provided there's a difference made on the title page between 'Words and Pictures' (Woodroffe) and 'Music' (Greenslade) it also should only be credited to the former. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:35, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Second Earth: The Pentateuch Re-told ==
 
 
You verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?475201 this pub] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513517 this one]. I think they're the same, and that the NONFICTION entry should be deleted. Can you check this? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 19:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Would it be possible to view this book as a variant of ''The Pentateuch of the Cosmogony''? [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:34, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Looks like the second one you link is a duplicate. As for making it a variant that's probably opening the proverbial can of worms. I'll leave that for the Moderators to sort out. I've submitted a deletion for record 513217 and transferred the notes on that entry to 475201. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:31, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::I think it would only be a variant if the novella's are the same. Thanks for removing the duplicate. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 19:28, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::::Since the first Pentateuch is only a novelette it seems not only retold but also expanded for ''The Second Earth''. I have credited ''The Pentateuch of the Cosmogony'' only to  Woodroffe according to the likely statement as referred to in the preceding discussion item. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:31, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
(unindent)Wikipedia has this to say: "The story was retold without music in Woodroffe's 1987 book The Second Earth. This featured additional artwork and was rewritten with extended prose replacing the original verse form. The additional artwork is not always as closely linked to the story as the original selection." Variant or expanion - I leave that for the moderators. An interesting discussion nonetheless. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Yes, that does confound the impression that the two are not to be varianted. I'll add your found note, though. Thanks for it! [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 05:26, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320950 Divine Invasions] ==
 
 
I added the artist and an accompanying note. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 05:32, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Found an image URL for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?504804 this pub] at Amazon. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 18:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Image URL found ==
 
 
for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514670 this pub] at Amazon. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 18:59, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Galactic Aliens ==
 
 
I've added Additional Publication details for another edition of your primary verified. http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514056.[[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 02:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Man in the High Castle - additional edition identity ==
 
 
I'm verifying an edition of your PV1 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43734], which has the same cover and ISBN as yours, but a different price, and no publishing date stated beyond the original Penguin 1965 date, and a number line showing a 7th printing. To help confirmation one way or the other, would your copy have a number line? Thanks, [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 08:55, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:No number line in my copy, It has "Reprinted 1976, 1978, 1987" under the Penguin 1965 date and a barcode on the back cover and other prices thus: A$12.95, NZ$14.99. Hope that helps.--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:32, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::Yes, thanks for the info. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 17:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Pulsar 2  ==
 
 
Hello, I've added the precise pub date as per review slip for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?26981 your verified pub]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:23, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== More than human ==
 
 
I added a publication history to your PV1 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22869]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 17:42, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== A Time of Changes ==
 
 
Ditto your PV1 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22869] [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 17:44, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Visions of Spaceflight pub notes ==
 
 
I've added pub notes re printing date, art credits and price to your PV1 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263192 Visions of Spaceflight] [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 12:10, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Art of Chesley Bonestell - pub notes. ==
 
 
I've added pub notes re printing date and price to your PV1 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35345 The Art of Chesley Bonestell] [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 12:27, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Best of Isaac Asimov 1954-1972 ==
 
 
Hi, I've added content and pub notes to your PV1 {http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?278490 The Best of Isaac Asimov 1954-2974] [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 16:30, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Second Armada Monster Book'' ==
 
 
Please confirm that the story "The Giant Who Sucked His Thumb" in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46655 this publication] is credited to "Adrien Stoutenbury" and not {{A|Adrien Stoutenburg}}. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 15:46, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Can confirm Adrien STOUTENBURY as per contents page, acknowledgements and name under title on page 9. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Cover art credit for ''The Black Cloud'' ==
 
 
Please confirm the cover image, cover art credit, and printing date given in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518252 this record]. The image currently attached to the record is the same as the 1968 printing. David Pelham's first cover for Penguin was the 1971 printing that looked like [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/f/f4/THBLCKCLDF1971.jpg this]. Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 18:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 
: Can confirm cover image is correct, cover art credit as stated on rear cover "Cover design by David Pelham" and date of 1971 as per the notes "Reprinted 1961, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1971" - has the prices of UK 25p 5/-, Australia $0.85, New Zealand $0.85, South Africa R0.60 and Canada $1.15 and ISBN is 140014667 without the leading 0. My primary source copy matches the record. Hope that helps. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::We then have to assume that this printing (the first 1971 printing) was intended to have Pelham's new cover art and contained the credit, but for some reason it was mistakenly printed with the previous edition's cover. That was corrected in a later 1971 printing which credited Pelham and, more importantly, had his actual work on the cover. The cover on your copy is a graphically-altered riff on the earlier John Griffith's cover art of which there are two variations in the database. If it were my verified record, I would note the credit error and remove it from the record. But since it's yours, I'll leave that decision to you. If you choose to keep the credit, a note explaining the discrepancy would help any future users of the db. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 18:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:::I've removed the David Pelham cover art credit and altered the notes to reflect your comments. Hope that's covers the discrepancy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:10, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== On Wings of Song pub note ==
 
 
I've added a pub note on cover art to your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189837<i>On Wings of Song</I>] [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 17:16, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 
:Good catch. My copy doesn't have a sticker but the correct ISBN is on the copyright page. The ISBN number printed on the spine and rear (0417060807) is indeed for 334. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::I can't claim the credit for that, it was already there from the PV1, Bill Longley, of whose passing I was recently informed. My note was solely about cover art. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 20:27, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Alien 3 pub notes ==
 
 
I've added pub notes on publication month and cover artwork credit to your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279234 Alien 3]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 12:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Alice's World ==
 
 
Hello, I've changed the author of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?354260 your verified pub] from Sam Lundwall to Sam J. Lundwall as per title page. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:28, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Dune - Year and price ==
 
 
I'm checking my 1984 NEL edition of <I>Dune</I> against your PV1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?387424<i>Dune</i>], but would like to check a couple of things with you first.
 
 
You quote "New Edition October 1984" in the pub notes, which matches the last of 18 date lines in my book's copyright page, but your metadata Year shows "1984-00-00".
 
 
Also, my book has a blank gold rectangle at bottom-left of the rear cover, with "£2.50" printed in gold just above it. It doesn't have the white square you mention, or a price in white. (Did you mean to say "£2.95", rather than £2.50, in the white box?)
 
 
When you get a chance, could you confirm which is the correct date for your book, and say whether the white square and date is printed, or just a sticker? Thanks, [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 21:42, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Hi yes date is October 1984 and price printed on white box is £2.95. Have corrected both those errors. The gold rectangle you mention on your copy hides the old price of £2.95 printed on a white rectangle - the outline of a larger rectangle and remanats og gold remain on the rear of my copy. White square with black £2.95 is definately printed as opposed to a sticker. Hope that helps. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:05, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
::It's strange to see a drop in price, unless they were trying to get rid of warehouses full of overproduction. And it also means that the price is the only point of difference between our two books. Is that sufficient for a new pub record, or should I just do an add. verification, and add a pub note saying something like "PV2's copy has overprinted £2.50 in gold over gold rectangle blocking out old price"? Thanks, [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 22:50, 13 October 2015 (UTC)#
 
 
::: I've additionally verified your PV1, and added a pub note as above. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 10:16, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
(unindent)Seems like you may have misunderstood. My copy also has the gold £2.50 stamped on the rear cover but the gold box has been scrapped away to reveal the old price of £2.95 in the white rectangular box beneath. Since the book has movie stills on the back cover and the date is 1984 it would seem to me to be reprinted to tie in with the release of the movie but as you suspect they may well have printed way more copies than were actually sold at the original price and were indeed attempting to get rid of them. Personally I believe that your copy and my copy are identical except for the fact your copy retains the gold overprinting intact and mine does not so I wouldn't create a new publication record. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:No, I didn't create a new pub record; I just add. verified yours, and added a pub note highlighting the small difference in the the gold overprint on my copy. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 15:42, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Del Rey's Fantastic Science-Fiction Art ==
 
 
If you've no objection, I'd like to add the content to Lester Del Rey's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?243073 Fantastic Science-Fiction Art, 1926-1954]''.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 01:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Not at all. Please go right ahead. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:20, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Inconstant Moon - pub notes ==
 
 
Hi, I've added pub notes on page count, artist signature and additional pricing to your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?135481<i>Inconstant Moon</I>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 10:06, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Transluminal: The Art of Jim Burns - cover art image ==
 
 
I've added a cover art image to your PV3'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?460480<i>Transluminal: The Art of Jim Burns</I>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 12:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
: Fyi, after [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Willem_H.#Transluminal:_The_Art_of_Jim_Burns_-_Content_page_numbers this discussion] I changed both pagenumbers. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 18:29, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Footfall - pub notes ==
 
 
Hi, I've added pub notes on number line, cover art credit and additional pricing to your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?320553<i>Footfall</i>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 18:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Book of Ptath - pub notes ==
 
 
I've added pub notes on printing history and cover art credit to your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?327486<i>The Book of Ptath</i>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 15:33, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Undercover Aliens - pub notes ==
 
 
I've added detail to the pub note on cover art credit, and added a new pub note on pricing, on your PV2'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?195621<i>The Undercover Aliens</i>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 22:12, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Shadow of the Torturer - Content and pub notes ==
 
 
Hi, I've added an appendix to Content of, and pub notes on the same plus OCLC and pricing to, your PV1'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?525499<i>The Shadow of the Torturer</i>]. [[User:Astrodan|Astrodan]] 12:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== F.A.T.E. Jewel of Jahren ==
 
 
Can you check your copy of this publicatio {{P|JWLFJRHNBZ1976|}}  my copy has £0.45  and 111 pages the rest is thesame as your copy, thank you. [[User:Wjmvanruth|William]] 14:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Can confirm price is £0.45 and page count is 111. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:53, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:: Thank you, I changed it. [[User:Wjmvanruth|William]] 22:23, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Silmarillion ==
 
 
Hi, I've imported content from the Canadian 1979 edition for our mutual verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?381035 The Silmarillion]. I also would like to change the publisher into Unwin Paperbacks, as is given on cover, title- and copyright page.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 23:32, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Can confirm Unwin Paperbacks so go right ahead and make the necessary chages. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:00, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Dream Trips ==
 
 
Hi, the cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?11389 this] publication is by Bob Haberfield, see [http://web.archive.org/web/20120515094631/http://www.firefrogproductions.co.uk/bobs%20book%20covers/index.html this] archive of his defunct website. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:15, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Survey of Science Fiction Literature ==
 
 
Hello, I've added scans for the volumes 1,3 & 5 of this series. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Cream of the Jest: The Lineage of Lichfield: Two Comedies of Evasion ==
 
 
Hi, I imported content for your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250662 The Cream of the Jest: The Lineage of Lichfield: Two Comedies of Evasion].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 21:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== One Hundred Years of Science Fiction, Book 1 ==
 
 
Hi, I imported content from my Pan books edition to your verified copy of the second edition of the Pan books [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281915 One Hundred Years of Science Fiction, Book 1].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 22:32, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:As stated in the rules concerning primary verification, contents should be added to publication records typed as COLLECTION or ANTHOLOGY before being primary verified. Please keep this in mind. Thanks for contributing. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 03:18, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Asimov's Mysteries ==
 
 
Did the same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513160 Asimov's Mysteries].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 22:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== The Moment of Eclipse ==
 
 
Hi, Isn't [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513142 your copy] the same as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?213617 this copy], apart from the publisher's name? And what publisher name is on your title page and/or copyright page?.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 22:40, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:Hi Dirk, no my copy isn't [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?213617 this copy] - my copy has different cover art - it has an all black cover with a large A in a cirle bottom right hand corner and "Brian Aldiss" in large silver lettering with "The Moment of Eclipse" below in a cyan colour. It's identical to [http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=13123905523&searchurl=isbn%3D0586049924 Cryptozoic] except for the colour of the title. Granada also reissued "Galaxies Like Grains of Sand" with an identical cover design. Publisher is Granada Publishing - "Panther Science Fiction" on cover, "Panther / Granada" on spine (Granada being larger typeface and bold), "Published by Granada Publishing Limited" on copyright page. Hope that helps.--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:30, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== To Ride Pagasus ==
 
 
Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?311184 To Ride Pagasus].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 19:55, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Logan's World ==
 
 
Hi, the cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?361718 this] is by [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?26553 Charles Moll], see his [http://charlie45.deviantart.com/gallery/ deviantart] site (very first image). [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 14:19, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Clark Ashton Smith's "Genius Loci" ==
 
 
I added a note to your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15215 Genius Loci]. I linked to the image on the cover artist's site and pointed out that his image showed different (lower) prices and suggested it was price change prior to publication. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 17:18, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 
: Apparently according to a BP Facebook post [https://www.facebook.com/129826343726792/photos/pcb.3728959363813454/3728954727147251/?type=3&theater here] this wasn't it's "original" colour scheme. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:47, 10 April 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== Waterhouse credit in Art of Imagination ==
 
 
I'm going to correct the credit for the cover of Dunsany's ''Time and the Gods'' appearing on page 533 of our mutually verified publication ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?277739 Art of Imagination]''.  We currently have it as "John Williams Waterhouse" whereas it should be "John William Waterhouse".  I'm waiting for one of the verifiers of another publication where this title occurs to agree to the edit before I proceed.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:32, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 
:Rear cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231329 this edition] of Time and The Gods has it as John Williams Waterhouse which looks like an error of the publishers part. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:20, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Roger Zelazny's "Jack of Shadows" ==
 
 
I have replaced the amazon image for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?151821 Jack of Shadows] with a scanned image. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 04:08, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 
 
== Possible Typos ==
 
 
Would you mind double checking these possible typos?
 
* carniverous - {{T|1869450|Carniverous Plant}} in {{P|514407|Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny}}
 
* carniverous - {{T|1869451|Carniverous Plant [1]}} in {{P|514407|Inventorum Natura: The Wonderful Voyage of Pliny}}
 
* comming - {{T|1869984|Second Comming}} in {{P|519694|The Outer Reaches}}
 
Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:37, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Typos corrected. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:22, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The House on the Borderland cover ==
 
 
Can you please check the cover attribution in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513519 this pub] for the cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264563 The House on the Borderland], which is currently listed as being by Les Edwards. In a friends-locked post on Facebook, Les has said that the cover is not by him, it's by Terry Oakes who was represented by the same agency. Thanks for checking. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 01:48, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 
:Checked - it is indeed Terry Oakes. I'll make changes necessary to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264563 The House on the Borderland]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:34, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Decade The 1950s ==
 
 
Hello, cover artist was found for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?89971 this pub]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 13:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Cyberiad ==
 
 
Hi. I've asked a question which involves several verified pubs of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?187190 the above]. Could you provide input in [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Markwood#The_Cyberiad this discussion]? Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 05:10, 4 February 2016 (UTC)<br>
 
Based on your response in the discussion linked to, I added the "the" in front of "Princess". Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 17:27, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Fantasy Art Techniques of Tim Hildebrandt ==
 
 
Hi. In your verified copy of the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514406  above], I noticed you have two titles which show up as dupes for Hildebrandt: p.24 and p.65 Vendetta. Do you want to disambiguate those? Also, I've just entered [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1968651 Curse of the Werewolf] and it has a cover by Hildebrandt. Could this be the same art as your p.131 "The Curse of the Werewolf" interior artwork in which case it could be varianted to the cover. Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 07:02, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 
:Sorry for the delay my flat has just returned to normaily after the redecoration of my living room. The illustration on page 24 is an unused cover sketch for Vendetta, the one on page 65 is the final version as used on the book so I'll rename that Vendetta [1]. The illustration on page 131 is indeed the cover of the book you mention above. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:52, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Titling identical titles in the same work by the same author/artist ==
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514406 this record]: I have corrected the method you used to title the contents which are identically titled. The ISFDB standard is to disambiguate the second and subsequent such titles, so there is no title "[1]". Please look over the changes I made to the record to see how it's done. Also, I changed the title of the foreword from "Foreward" to "Foreword". If that's the way it appears in the book, please change it back and note the odd spelling.
 
 
Also, are the untitled works actually titled "untitled"? If not, then that's not how they should be titled in the ISFDB publication record, which tries to reflect titles as they are published. If the works are not titled, then the default is to title them as the work which they illustrate. In this case, the first such untitled record would be titled "The Fantasy Art Techniques of Tim Hildebrandt", and the second would be titled "The Fantasy Art Techniques of Tim Hildebrandt [2]", and so forth. I've not changed the titles in this publication, just in case they are actually titled "untitled". If not, please correct them. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 17:06, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Also, please confirm the spelling of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1869575 this title]. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 17:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 
: I've ameded the spelling error. As for the illustrations which are listed as "untitled" - for example page 80 has no title merely a caption thus: "Unpublished finished pencil drawing from Urshurak, 1979", page 113 is captioned "Book cover, New American Library, 1987" - I'll give the ones that have no title "The Fantasy Art Techniques of Tim Hildebrandt" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:35, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Classics of Modern Science Fiction ==
 
 
When you get a chance, could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#.22Classics_of_Modern_Science_Fiction.22 this discussion], which affects your verified pubs? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 18:20, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Flashing Swords! ==
 
 
Another editor has asked to change the date of our mutually verified ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?286804 Flashing Swords! I]'' citing Goodreads as a source.  I'm not sure how reliable that source is for bibliographic data, but I don't think it matters in this case.  After pulling the book, I noticed that it does have the statement "First published in Great Britain in 1974...", so I think the date change is good.  I'm going to go ahead and accept the change, but swap out the note in favor of the statement on the copyright page.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 03:10, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 
:Can confirm the ststement as in the book. As for the reliability of Goodreads I wouldn't like to guess either and one can never assume that people entering data on Goodreads check it with the primary source. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Card's ''Hot Sleep'' ==
 
 
Added overseas cover prices to our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17372 Hot Sleep]. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 15:32, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Space Warriors ==
 
 
I changed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 this verified pub] from NONFICTION to COLLECTION. Seemed logical since it contains three pieces of shortfiction. Also added the price (front flap of the dustjacket) Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 21:46, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Possible Typos 15-March ==
 
 
Here are some more possible typos:
 
* andthe - {{T|1853279|Some Speculations on Don DeLillo andthe Cinematic Reel}} in {{P|513747|Introducing Don DeLillo}}
 
* contribtors - {{T|1853286|Notes on Contribtors (Introducing Don DeLillo)}} in {{P|513747|Introducing Don DeLillo}}
 
* ficiton - {{T|1268825|The Science Fiction Writer at Work: How I Became a Science Ficiton Master in only 15 Minutes a Day}} in {{P|513492|The Science Fiction Source Book}}
 
* mediocraty - {{T|1853277|Clinging to the Rock: A Novelist's Choice in the New Mediocraty}} in {{P|513747|Introducing Don DeLillo}}
 
Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 23:30, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Typos corrected --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:14, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Near-duplicate PKD printings ==
 
 
Ace is at it again. 1976 [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230801 printing]]. 1977 [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?563676 printing]] with notes to explain the differences. I haven't adjusted the notes at all for the 1976 record [who knows, there may be three .....]. Cheers!  --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 17:09, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Thanks for the heads-up. I checked my copy as per the notes and found it to be a 3rd printing thus have verified it and removed verification for the 1976 printing. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:21, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Kothar, Barbarian Swordsman ==
 
 
Cover art for the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?180501 Star edition] is by Bill Hughes, see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?51323 here]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 14:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Olaf Stapledon: A Man Divided ==
 
 
I confess I got a little carried away making a few minor improvements to our above [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?229681 verified pub], and perhaps strictly speaking I should have contacted you first. Apologies. I made a necessary correction to the cover art credit, the artist's surname being spelled "Pasternak" in the pub, not "Pasternack". I also added brief Notes concerning the number line on the copyright page and the Editor's Foreword, along with adding the accompanying Roman Numerals to the page count. Also on the back cover is "The Science-Fiction Writers Series", a pub series which has not existed in the database until now; I see the Olaf Stapledon book has similar cover typography to that of your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294424 The Science Fiction of H. G. Wells] – can you please check if the series name also appears anywhere in that book too? I'll contact other verifiers of other books that may also be in this series. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 15:22, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 
 
: Yes "Science-Fiction Writers / Robert Scholes, General Editor" appears on the page prior to the title page. Same for the papeback copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?102971 Isaac Asimov] - the hardbound copy of the same has "The Science-Fiction Writers Series / General Editor: Robert Scholes" on the rear of the dustwrapper. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:39, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== City of the First Time ==
 
 
Added price. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?277046]--[[User:Auric|Auric]] 19:24, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Fantasy Posterbook ==
 
 
I have entered the art content to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?484031 Fantasy Posterbook], varianting the illustrations to their titles. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 12:54, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Possible Typos 10-Apr ==
 
 
Here are some possible typos:
 
* extratrerrestrial - {{P|517274|The Ufonauts: New Facts on Extratrerrestrial Landings}}
 
* secuirity - {{T|1868838|Maximum Secuirity Force Officer}} in {{P|519558|Space Patrol: The Official Guide to the Galactic Security Force}}
 
Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:34, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 
:Typos corrected --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Skylark of Space ==
 
 
{{P|281811|This pub}} that you verified: I revised the pub notes as follows:
 
* Add a couple of pub notes regarding printing history
 
* Mention where cover artist credit and prices appear
 
* Adde note about the 9-digit SBN
 
* Re-format the pub notes into a bullet list
 
All the original information was preserved. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 14:27, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Man in the Maze  ==
 
 
{{P|382937|This pub}} that you verified. The Price field on the pub record only contained "£", so I added the price. Can you please take a look at your copy of the book to make sure that the price matches? I also revised the pub notes as follows:
 
* Add Australia and Malta prices
 
* Add a couple of pub notes regarding printing history
 
* Re-format the pub notes into a bullet list
 
All the original information in the pub notes was preserved. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 15:32, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 
:Cannot confirm the price as it has been obliterated on my copy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:48, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 
:: Annoying, I know. Because the price can be an important factor to separate otherwise undistinguishable reprints, I always try to do my best to make the price readable again. Two of my recent attempts have gone awray, though. In one case I became first impatient, and then incensed, after trying for several minutes to remove an overly persistent price tag - in the end the tag was gone, but in the process I had ripped off a part of the book cover, including the original printed price that I had sought. I don't normally savage my books, but accidents can happen in a variety of ways. In the second case I used isopropanol to gently try and remove the color from a marker that had been used to obscure the printed price. To my horror I found out that books printed in the 1960s are less resistant to isopropanol than modern marker colors. So my advice: Reign in your temper, and don't use chemicals on old books ☺ -- Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 08:17, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:::When I said the price had been obliterated I didn't mean that it was I who was the culprit. Previous owner (the read & return bookshop I bought it from) had literally scrached it away. In cases of stubborn price labels I tend to use lighter fuel on a small piece of kitchen roll. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:04, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== All the Traps of Earth ==
 
 
It seems my London shopping excursion has provided me with quite a few of the books that you also have ☺. So, once again I fiddled with {{P|153981|a book}} that you verified.
 
 
* Replace the Amazon image with a cover scan
 
* Add Australia and New Zealand prices
 
* Add a couple of pub notes regarding printing history
 
* Re-format the pub notes into a bullet list
 
 
Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 15:58, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Thanks. Perhaps you might like to enlighten me as to which bookshop(s) you went to in London. It's been a long time since I went there last as the one I knew on the Highbury Road (Fantasy Centre) closed quite some time ago. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:14, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:: You can find a short write-up of my visit to London on the [[ISFDB:Community_Portal#Used_book_store_in_London|Community Portal page]]. The gist of it is that [http://www.skoob.com/ Skoob Books] apparently is the spiritual successor to the Fantasy Centre. Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 08:26, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:::Thaks for that info. Very handy to know if at some point in the future '''IF''' I have any cash. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Night of the Puudly ==
 
 
Another one ☺ {{P|236201|This pub}} that you verified. I replaced the Amazon image with a cover scan and revised the pub notes as follows:
 
 
* Replace the terse pub note "NEL reissue after two Four Square printings" with a more detailed list of the printing and publishing history from the copyright page
 
* Mention the missing cover artist credit
 
* Mention where prices appear
 
* Re-format the pub notes into a bullet list
 
 
Other original information in the pub notes was preserved. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 16:57, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Search the Sky ==
 
 
Added Australian price to {{P|232381|this pub}} that you verified and reformatted pub notes. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:13, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Before the Golden Age Volume Two ==
 
 
{{P|394831|This pub}} that you verified already had an ISFDB cover scan, but it was the wrong one, so I replaced it ([[:Image:BFRTHGLDNG1984.jpg|link to previous scan]]). I also revised the pub notes, adding prices, the publisher's note and a mention of the uncredited notice to the buyer. Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 19:55, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 
:That's handy, just checked my copy to discover it's the 1984 reprint so have unverified it and copied and pasted the info minus the other prices which don't appear on my copy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:03, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Before the Golden Age Volume Three ==
 
 
{{P|263875|This pub}} that you verified: I revised the pub notes, adding prices and the publisher's note. I also noticed that the story title "Past, Present, and Future" appears with two commas in my copy of the book, whereas the pub record has the story title with only one comma "Past, Present and Future". Could you please check what's in your book? Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:17, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
: Hervé has [[User_talk:Hauck#Before_the_Golden_Age_Volume_Three|already made the correction]], so no need to check (unless you want to). Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:57, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 
::Same, although upon checking found I had the 1984 reprint edition. Have redone the verifications for these volumes as all mine are 1984 and cut and pasted your notes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:15, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
::: I assume that {{P|388475|this}} is the pub that you newly verified. I believe you should carefully go over the pub notes once more because it appears you accidentally copied the notes from volume 2 - for instance the pub notes now state "Volume 2 of 3" although the publication is for the third volume. Also the notice to the buyer probably does not appear in your book, does it? Cheers, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 08:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
::::Corrections made. Removed the note to buyer which does not appear in this volume. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:56, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Encyclopedia of Fantasy ==
 
 
{{P|39187|This pub}} that you verified: I added the publication month from Locus1, and some notes (previously there were no notes at all). I would also like to mention that the pub record had a price of £50 even though there is no price anywhere in the physical book, so I documented the source to be Locus1. Please let me know if anything does not match your book. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 17:23, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
: [[User_talk:Prof_beard#The_Encyclopedia_of_Fantasy|As it turned out]] I have a different edition than the retail edition that you verified. {{P|569649|My edition}} lacks the price and the ISBN/EAN code. I updated the notes in {{P|39187|your edition}} to match the newfound facts. Let me know if you spot anything that's not correct. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 20:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
::Your additional notes conform with my UK edition. Good catch. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:00, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Index to Science Fiction Anthologies and Collections ==
 
 
Added scan for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?177245 your verified pub]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Fantasy Almanac ==
 
 
Added credits for interior art [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264179]--[[User:Auric|Auric]] 11:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Dayworld (UK) ==
 
 
I would like to correct or add some info with this book, Dayworld [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9322]]. The month of publication is September (Locus1). There is no number line in this book, so that cannnot indicate a first printing. But it is the first printing alright. Also would like to add the "Author's Preface". [[User:Zlan52|Zlan52]] 10:43, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Great Space Battles ==
 
 
You may be interested to see that I've matched a bunch of illustrations from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273276+f this] with the original or earlier appearance (pages 9, 17, 36, 61, 73). [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 09:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== To your scattered Bodies Go ==
 
 
[[http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Bluesman#To_Your_Scattered_Bodies_Go_.2F_SFBC This]] discussion may change where your PV should go. Turns out the SFBC changed the publisher credit after the first printing.  --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 00:06, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for the heads up. Having checked out the discussion I have indeed had to change the verification from the Berkley/SFBC edition to the Putnam/SFBC edition. Gutter code is L27. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:51, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Ted Hughes's ''The Iron Man'' ==
 
 
As verifiers of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?909075 The Iron Man], I propose we change the publication type from NOVEL to CHAPBOOK. It's so short it's probably a novelette, nowhere near a novel. What do you think? (I've asked the same question to Clarkmci). [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 07:35, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 
:A conundrum indeed. Depends on the definition of a CHAPBOOK and indeed would anyone be willing to do a wordcount ? Clute & Nicholls is no help (merely gives date of publication without the appended 'chap') and the Wikipedia entry describes it as a NOVEL. I'd probably be inclined towards erring on the side of caution and change it to CHAPBOOK but that's probably a decision better suited to a moderator. Personally I'm willing to go with whatever the consesus of opion is on the matter. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:39, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 
::I've done a word count and it's around 8,500 words, making it a NOVELETTE ("A work whose length is greater than 7,500 words and less than or equal to 17,500 words"). If Clarkmci is in agreement I'll make the necessary changes. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 09:45, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== To Your Scattered Bodies Go - cover art ==
 
 
I added the cover artist of the 1993 UK edition, [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?51860]], Keith Scaife. I had his name from a reliable source on the internet, but cannot find it anymore, alas. Also added some notes. [[User:Zlan52|Zlan52]] 23:06, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:Attempted to track down your internet source via Googling but to no avail. Scaife does have an official Facebook page so that's one way to gain confirmation but I'm not a member. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:39, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Purnell's Book of Adventures in Space ==
 
 
Hello, I've approved your submission but made a few changes: 1) changed type to ANTHOLOGY (a COLLECTION is -essentially- made of texts by the same author), 2) changed author to "uncredited" (use "unknown" if the author or editor explicitely stated as such), 3) added leading "0" to ISBN. Result is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?578513 here] but it may be interesting to add the page numbers for the INTERIORART. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:06, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:Thanks Hauck. I wasn't sure about the interior art eg. the story "Down Down Down" has 7 small pieces (on p.8, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15 and 16) some smaller than half a page and since they're all by the same artist it would make the listing extremely long and was hoping that a single artist entry associated with the story would be sufficient - please don't make me add each individual piece of art as I'm afraid my brain would turn to goo. I should have put ANTHOLOGY and I couldn't remember if the artist should have gone down as unknown or uncredited. I'll add a cover scan shortly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:29, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 
::Be reassured, you can enter the artwork just once (the [X] extensions for multiple artwork like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?58681 here] are not mandatory). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 19:41, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Please comment about Yoshio Kobayshi ==
 
 
Please comment [[User talk:Rtrace#Possible typo on "Yoshio_Kobayshi"|over here]]. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 21:13, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:Covered by Hauck's scan of the page in question. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:33, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1854186 Super Space] publisher ==
 
 
For this entry, you have the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?52897 Libro]. The [https://www.amazon.co.jp/スーパースペース-岩崎-賀都彰/dp/4845700182/ Amazon.co.jp] lists the publisher as リブロポート (Libropōt, probably meaning Libroport). Will you scan the title and copyright pages for this book and post the link to them? The Japanese copyright page is usually in the back of the book. I'm working on converting all entries which should be in Japanese to Japanese. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 04:14, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:Looks like the [http://www.honyaclub.com/shop/g/g10089800/ publisher] lists themselves as リブロポート as well. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 04:20, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 
::Scanned [https://www.flickr.com/photos/75077089@N00/28283862401/in/dateposted-public/ copyright page] here. Also check out this [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Mavmaramis#Super_Space previous discussion] regarding this book. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:::The publisher should be リブロポート. It's a publisher owned by a book store chain named Libro, so that's why "Libro" is on the front cover. Will you update the record for Super Space? Will you also scan the title page so I can see what it says? Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:37, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:::Also, when updating the Super Space entry, please update the publish date to 1981-03-10 per the copyright page. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 14:40, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 
::::Title page merely says SUPER SPACE / K.IWASAKI (in very large type in the middle of a black page) with Libro in a outline box lower right hand corner. Not really sure why you need a scan of that as that's all it says and since it's very large the book it won't fit on my scanner. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:58, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:::::If that's all that's on it, don't bother. Do you want me to submit an update, or do you want to? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 
::::::Changed the date for the record to 1981-03-10. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:43, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Past Through Tomorrow Vol. 2 ==
 
 
Is there any reason why the individual stories in {{P|286424|The Past Through Tomorrow Vol. 2}} are not listed? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 16:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
 
: I understand that there was a problem with the way this record was set up.  The stories are now listed, but they do not have their page numbers. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 19:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
 
::I didn't enter the content which is why there are no page numbers. Verifying my very large collection took aquite a number of weeks which is why I merely only verified publications rather than enter content for records that didn't have them as I didn't have the time to do so (nor do I have now). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:39, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:::OK.  With your permission I will add the page numbers.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 08:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 
 
::::Go right ahead, be my guest. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== untitled interior art ==
 
 
Hi. I see in your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?519516 Richard Corben Flights into Fantasy] that you have titled 14 of Corben's interior art works as "untitled". From what I understand, these should all be titled with the name of the publication and disambiguated accordingly (unless they are ACTUALLY titled "Untitled". The same thing for one entry in your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?519516 Richard Corben's Art Book]. I noticed this because the first "untitled" work in each pub showed up as duplicates on Corben's page. Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 22:32, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:This was done at a time when I wasn't aware of the rules regarding interior artwork that didn't have a title. I'll modify the entires. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::Sorry to be nitpicky here but I believe that when you disambiguate, the first title has no bracketed number, the second title starts with [2], not [1] (the [1] is not used at all). You've got this happening at pp. 14, 22, 27 and 108. P.137 Bloodstar should be a [2]. Of course all bracketed numbers following in each group should be increased by 1. Also, p. 184 needs to be disambiguated to [2]. Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 05:35, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::Hi. I submitted a couple of fixes for the disambiguation of your Flights into Fantasy. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 04:22, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::Ahh - my mistake. I see what happened to change the disambiguation. I cancelled my "fix". Sorry. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 04:26, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Never Underestimate ==
 
 
As per [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Linguist#17_x_Infinity this exchange], and after checking, I have updated the title of Sturgeon's "Never Underestimate" in our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?227205 ''17 X Infinity'']. Thanks. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 09:46, 6 September 2016 (UTC).
 
 
== I Will Fear No Evil ==
 
 
Hi, I found the cover artist for your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518154 I Will Fear No Evil]. It is Ian Craig, the artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?383997 Programma Fenice], which uses the same cover art.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 19:31, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 
: Edited. I always thought this cover was by Ian Craig although I could never prove it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:23, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Friedlander Publishing ==
 
 
In an attempt to correct the publisher, I've corrected Friedlander Publishing to Friedlander Publishing Group (FPG) on {{P|263083|this book}} [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 03:20, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The Santaroga Barrier'' ==
 
 
Added to the Note the source for the publication date on our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?376523 The Santaroga Barrier"]. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 17:48, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Art of Moebius ==
 
 
Could you please check if the author of "Introduction (Art of Moebius)" in your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?512807 ''Art of Moebius''] is really listed as "Jea'''m'''-Marc Lofficier"? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 22:50, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Entry already says "Jean-Marc" - so the correction has been done but not by me. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 08:20, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:: Thanks for checking! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 15:55, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Stowaway to Mars ==
 
 
Hi, I've found the cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257578 Stowaway to Mars]. We even already have a record for the cover art: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1476200 Stowaway to Mars].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 10:00, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:Must have fallen through the cracks. Always knew it was by Colin Hay as it's in one of Cowley's pictorials. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 08:06, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Space Warriors ==
 
 
Hi, I've updated the info about the interior illustrators of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514838 The Space Warriors], using info from [http://www.sfandfantasy.co.uk/php/ej-sw.php this].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 13:26, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== News From Elsewhere ==
 
 
Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293398 this] is Paul Lehr, see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1220305 Time Probe]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 22:33, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:And I added the artist & a note and also varianted the cover. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 11:31, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Michael Vyse's ''The Outer Reaches'' ==
 
 
Added a complete Note to our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?519694 verified pub], also changed all the stories' "shortfiction" lengths to "shortstory", based on their pagination from the Contents page. I don't believe any of them would qualify as a novelette. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 22:32, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Request for comment: Gods of Pegāna ==
 
 
Hi, just wanted to let you know that I've been verifying first editions of Dunsany collections and making some changes to canonical story titles that affect later editions that you verified. If you have any questions or objections, leave me a note. Thanks! --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha77]] 22:01, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Request for comment: Please look at the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#The_Gods_of_Peg.C4.81na_introduction_muddle Community Portal] where I explained (at possibly exhausting length) why there's a serious problem with all the editions of ''The Gods of Pegāna'' and proposed possible solutions. I'd appreciate some input... --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha77]] 00:09, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:I'm sorry to say it but that kind of minutiae never really bothered me and to be honest I would never have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. I'm happy with whatever the moderators decide. The fact that I have a physical copy of the book and there's an entry for it on ISFDB is enough for me. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 08:18, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
::Fair enough! Thanks for the reply. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha77]] 02:55, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Weinberg's Dictionary of Artists ==
 
 
I've added Reginald, Worlcat and LCCN numbers to Robert Weinberg's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?225 A Biographical Dictionary of Science Fiction and Fantasy Artists]''.  I also have a question.  The cover scan we have appears to be green.  My copy is bound in blue cloth and does not have a dust jacket.  I'm speculating that the book was issued without a jacket and that the scan is just not reflecting the color correctly.  I'll leave a note on the other active verifier's talk pages.  Unless anyone has a green copy, I'd like to re-scan one of our copies with the blue cloth cover.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 23:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:My copy is also bound in dark blue cloth with white embossed text in a lighter blue rectangle and sans dust jacket per various listings on Abebooks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:15, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Blake's 7 ==
 
 
In the notes for {{P|179793|Blake's 7}} it says "<I>The artist is not credited, no visible signature on the artwork [promotional shot from the TV series?]</i>".  However on the back cover it states "<I>The cover photograph shows the spaceship Liberator from the BBC-TV production of Blake's 7 produced by David Maloney and designed by Roger Murray-Leach, BBC.  Copyright photograph by Bob Komer</I>".  So shouldn't the cover artist be <I>Bob Komer</I>? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 15:18, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Maybe. It's a grey area so I'd raise that with a moderator and let them decide. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:22, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Deep Space: Eight Stories of Science Fiction ==
 
 
Hi. Re: your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?407117, it had a pub note "No price printed on either flap of dust wrapper." Appears likely your copy's jacket was price-clipped, but please let me know if otherwise. My verified copy has price "£3.95" on bottom corner of jacket front flap. I've submitted edit to add that price and correct the pub note. I can undo and submit my priced copy as a variant if yours really is an un-priced first UK edition. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 22:41, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:Just checked my copy and it definatly isn't price clipped and has no price printed on front flap of dustwrapper. There is small 'shadow' rectangle signifying a price label that has been removed (assume the £3.95) - maybe you should check if your price is on a label or printed on the dust wrapper itself. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:58, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Moorcock's ''The Golden Barge'' ==
 
 
There's an [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?349131 Introduction] to our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?519976 verified pub] that you may wish to add. Cheers. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 05:13, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:Could be difficult since my copy is buried somewhere and I'm not entirely sure where it is. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:51, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Alien Worlds ==
 
 
Hello, I found the artist for our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?2063 here]. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:12, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:I have to admit to missing that. I had to dig the book out again just to check and yes your right it is very small and not in the usual place (i.e. top or bottom of spine) which is why I probably missed it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Nitpicker's Guide for Next Generation Trekkers, Vol II  ==
 
 
Hello,
 
 
In your verified {{P|278600|The Nitpicker's Guide for Next Generation Trekkers, Vol II }}, the cover shows Volume completely spelled. Is it just Vol on the title page? If so, can we add a note to that effect and I can variant that one out from the ones that spell it completely. If it is Volume there as well, would you mind changing the pub record so it matches? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 23:23, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:It's Volume in full so edited. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:54, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Terry Carr's ''Best SF of the Year 15'' ==
 
 
I've added a Note and the page numbers to our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209497 Best SF of the Year 15], but there are still a few issues that I must run past you as PV1:
 
*My pub is a tp with identical cover price and ISBN... is yours really a pb?
 
*There is no essay by Charles N. Brown in this edition.
 
*'Bluff' is attributed to Harry Turtledove, not his pseudonym.
 
*'Of Space-Time and the River' appears as 'Of Space/Time and the River'. There is already a [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?345811 variant record] you can import instead.
 
*There is no hash in the title before 15, although there was in the Tor first edition. I propose removing it.
 
As Hervé has verified the hc edition of this Gollancz pub, I'll point out to him later that some similar errors appear in his record and can also be fixed if you're in agreement with these points first, as the two pubs should match in contents. Thanks for checking. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 19:32, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:I've removed the # from the title and changed binding to tp. AS for the erronious content can't say that I'm the one who added it (may have already been there) but go right ahead and make the edits. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:21, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== The Cream of the Jest: The Lineage of Lichfield ==
 
 
I'm proposing converting two James Branch Cabell titles from collections to omnibus, including your verified copy of ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?250662 The Cream of the Jest: The Lineage of Lichfield]''.  I've started a discussion [[User talk:Don Erikson#James Brach Cabell Editions|here]] to get the opinions of the verifiers.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:21, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Dragondrums ==
 
 
I've added a reference to the map in {{P|300048|Dragondrums}}.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 17:56, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
== Joe Petagno = Ivu Petagne ==
 
 
Dirk P. Broer found this identity. But is there any hint of Petagne being the legal name of Petagno in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?62923 here]? [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 16:54, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 
:The only name that appears in the text of the Foreword and Introduction is Joe Petagno. No mention of Ivu Petagne. Neither can I find any reference on the internet to Ivu Petagne being the legal name of Petagno. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:09, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 
::Thanks for the research! Still, somehow Ivu Petagne seems to be to odd to be just a typo. Maybe someday the mystery will be resolved. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 10:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 
:::Joe Petagno is American (b. 1 Jan 1948) so where the name Ivu Petagne comes from I know not. Agree that it seems to be odd to be a typo. Petagno has an official website and facebook page - although when I did try to contact him on there in the past for confirmation of a book cover - I got no reply. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
::::Yeah, but there are others who use a anglificied version of their legal name; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?12817 Jack Kirby] being a prominent example. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 15:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== ''The Door Into Summer'' ==
 
 
Not a change to your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518072 verified pub] per se, but I've been going through many pubs of ''The Door Into Summer'' and capitalising the "into" to "Into". Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 02:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Strata ==
 
 
My copy of {{P|522638|Strata}} matches your verified version apart from the Australian Price.  Yours has $8.95 whereas mine states $7.95.  I think that might be a typo on yours as the Cover Art shows the Australian Price as $7.95.  Apart from that I think that yours (and my) copy is a duplicate of {{P|33630|Strata}} as Locus1 has the Printing Date as Apr 1998.  I therefore suggest that the unverified version is deleted and 'our' copy is updated with the Printing Month.  Do you agree?  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 18:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 
:I'll re-check my copy of Strata to see if I made a typo with the Australian price and let you know. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:02, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 
::Finally got roundto checking my pb copy. Made the necessary amendment to the Australian price (yes it was a typ). Suggest the second linked book is deleted and you verify the fisrt link (the one with the full wraparound cover image). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:58, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Diggers ==
 
 
For {{P|10126|Diggers}} the Publication Month and Cover Artist are listed in Locus1.  The Canadian Price is $4.50 (it's at the top left of the Front Cover).  I've updated the record accordingly.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 16:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Best Science Fiction of the Year 7 ==
 
 
I have also verified http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?196781 and will be updating the record. Your only pub note said, "No price printed on either flap of dust wrapper", but my copy of the book has "£5.50 net" on bottom corner of the front flap. I will also note there is no statement of edition or printing on the copyright page of my copy. Please post a reply here and, at your discretion, either edit this listing or create a variant listing if your copy is different. Thanks. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 04:35, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 
:Can confirm that my copy definately does not have a printed price on either flap of the dustwrapper nor the tell-tle signs of a price sticker being removed. Nor does it have the ISBN number on the back flap as per your note. Can also confirm there is no statement of edition or printing on the copyright page. Have amended the note re price to clarify thet your copy (PV2) has this but mine (PV1) has neither. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:49, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 
::FYI, I uploaded new jacket scan to show the spine. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 23:51, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Dragons of Darkness ==
 
 
Added new data, new illustrations, and new page number for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?11257 Dragons of Darkness]. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 05:12, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Northern Lights ==
 
 
The Publication Date for your verified version of {{P|24502|Northern Lights}} is <I>1998-00-00</I>.  I think that this should be changed to <I>0000-00-00</I> as Locus1 reports that the 1st edition was printed in Oct-1998 and this is the 26th printing.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 16:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 
:Change made. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:59, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== ''Noon: 22nd Century'' ==
 
 
Hi, following [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#The_Strugatsky.27s_.27Midday.27_future_history this discussion] your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209825 pub.] got transformed into a COLLECTION. You might now want to add the contents. Thanks, [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 20:31, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== The Art of Big O  ==
 
 
Hello, I've put your submission on hold. We already have TWO such publications that look quite similar to me [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608855 here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?608856 there], perhaps is it useless to add a third? [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 09:24, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 
: Hello Hauck. Before my submission the book didn't exist in ISFDB hence why I put it in. Something weird happened and after I submitted it said the ISBN already existed and then brought up the two entries you linked - which are identical and incomplete - my submission has the complete contents listed. No idea how that happened. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 
::Likely a technical glitch. I've tried to salvage what I could by merging. I've deleted the 1-page long <i>Acknowledgements</i>essay as we usually do not list those. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 11:38, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Before the Golden Age, Volume One and Three ==
 
 
Hi, Can you please check both the number of pages of your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388473 Before the Golden Age 1] and the actual title as printed on the title page?  I want to import content from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?355365 Before the Golden Age, Volume One], but your copy shows as having only 319 pages, while the other has on page 323 <i>The Moon Era</i> by Jack Williamson, having 380 pages in total. I will also import content for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?388475 Before the Golden Age 3] from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?263875 Before the Golden Age Volume Three]. For this book too I ask you to please check the title on the title page, as that title is leading compared to what is printed on the cover, in this case '3' vs 'Volume Three'. --[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 09:48, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 
:Changed titles to ewhat is stated on title pages (i.e. 'Volume One', 'Volume Two' and 'Volume Three') despite the cover merely having numbers. Also amended the page count for Vol. 1 to 380 and added page count to Vol.3 (400) so you can go ahead and add content when the submissions are authorised. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:18, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== King Kobold ==
 
 
Can you check the Other Prices on the back cover of {{P|377508|King Kobold}}.  My copy has Australia $1.80, New Zealand $1.80. If your version does have Australia $1.50 then I will create another version for my copy.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 14:54, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 
:Hello Andy. The $1.50 Australian price was a typo. I just checked and it is indeed $1.80. Blame my poor eyesight in equally poor lighting. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:30, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Horror 100 Best Books ==
 
 
I updated the title of the essay reviewing Thomas Harris' ''Red Dragon'' in ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514502 Horror: 100 Best Books]''.  I believe this title was changed previously without notification and I'm fixing it.  See [[User talk:Hauck#Changes to verified publications|this discussion]].  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 23:43, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 
:Hello Ron. I fished out my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514502 Horror: 100 Best Books] - the contents are correct but there seems to be a major issue with the pagination of the contents.
 
17 •   Review: The Tragical History of Doctor Faustus by Christopher Marlowe • (1988) • review by Clive Barker. This review actually starts on page 11. There is a Foreword by Ramsey Campbell on page 2 and an Introduction by Jones & Newman on page 9. No idea where the conteents came from - looks like they were cloned from the standard hardback which may have differing paginagtion although that seems highly unlikely. As I'm PV and seem to be the only one to own a copy (of the signed version) I suppose I'll have to amend the page numbers - but it's a right faff. Right now I'm doing a passable impersonation of DDick Dastardly's sidekick Mutley. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:27, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Albert Argyle ==
 
 
Does this series have any Spec-fic content? I checked the Savoy website and they seem to be comedies [albeit a little twisted ... nothing wrong with that!]. The author certainly isn't above any 'threshold' for the inclusion of non-genre works [though the series/books are all typed as 'non-fiction'??¿¿??]. If they do belong here, at least the title records of the three should be altered to have the dates of the original hard covers.  --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 17:10, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 
:I can't answer your question as I havn't read them. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:35, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Futures Past ==
 
 
The front cover of {{P|215853|Futures Past}} seems to have a 'signature' of the cover artist.  It's in the middle at the bottom in the right hand flame.  Any idea who it could be?  I've updated the Printing History.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 21:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 
:I had a very good look at this alleged signiature. Personally I don't think it is a signiature but merely part of the artwork (i.e. the remains of debris burned up in the engine flame). However I have scanned that section at 1200dpi and uploaded it to Flickr [https://www.flickr.com/photos/75077089@N00/34968394090/in/dateposted-public/ HERE] so you can judge for yourself.--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:06, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 
Edit: Image removed, link now redundant. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:32, 22 July 2017 (EDT)
 
:: Thanks for looking.  It was just a thought.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 13:14, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Karel Čapek's R.U.R. ==
 
 
I've swapped out the title record for Čapek's R.U.R. in your verified ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513745  Toward the Radical Centre: A Karel Capek Reader]''.  Locus1 notes that it is a new translation, and my edits were to separate it from the earlier translations.  Locus doesn't mention the translator.  If they are credited in the book, could you add them to the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2218857 title record].  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 03:08, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 
:I checked the book which confirms the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2218857 title record]translator as Claudia Novack-Jones.--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:24, 5 July 2017 (EDT)
 
 
== Fantastic Planets ==
 
 
Hello Mavmaramis,
 
 
Hauck told me it is necessary to contact you to inform you about the name of the artist I found for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294833]. The source of my info is [https://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Planets-Jean-Claude-Suares/dp/0891695346/]. In the third image you'll see the name of the artist (Tom Kowal).
 
 
Regards,
 
Ad73
 
 
:Thanks. It was actually an error of omission on my part having located the illustration within the book itself (page 31).--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:18, 5 July 2017 (EDT)
 
 
== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269413 Manifest Destiny] ==
 
 
Hi, I've imported the Interstitial material that were also present in the 1982 Futura edition and that Bill Longley thought of as 'not worthy of note', as they are in the TOC and in the database.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 15:50, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
 
 
== Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath ==
 
 
Hi. This is in reference to your two verified pubs for "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath" [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290523 here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?515377 here]. I can't see where they are separate pubs. Everything seems identical except 1)Pages are xii+241 in the first and xii+242 in the second, and 2) the title of the essay by Carter  contains "...Through the Gates of Slumber" in the first and "...Through the Gates of Deeper Slumber" in the second. (The second is the title shown in the other Ballantine editions). Both show up as separate titles under Carter's bibliography. Am I missing something here? Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 01:15, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
 
:No you're not missing something. I've removed the verification for the entry without a cover. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:13, 15 July 2017 (EDT)
 
 
== Emphyrio ==
 
 
I'd like to change the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?123461 this] Coronet edition from Matthew Fox to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?125710 Nick Fox]. The signature is the same as on other covers currently credited to Nick Fox, the style (leathery skin colors) is the same as on for example [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2230623 Dark Crusade] (Coronet 1981). And "Matthew Fox" has no other credits, his existence is probably just based on signature "Fox" somehow combined with 1940s Weird Tales artist [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?27901 Matt Fox]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 05:52, 18 July 2017 (EDT)
 
:Yes please go ahead and amend the record. Not sure where the erronious error came in and I should have picked up on it and although I have seen one example of his work (the orange skinned cephalopod head man in Cowley's pictoral) it wasn't an image I could be certain was his. I'm sure I must have messaged you about this at some point on Flickr. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:28, 22 July 2017 (EDT)
 
 
== Solaris ==
 
 
Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?273702 this] is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?108096 Chris Yates], his initials C.Y. can be seen at the bottom of the back cover. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:39, 27 September 2017 (EDT)
 
 
== Where do we go from Here? Book 1 and 2 ==
 
 
Hi, I was wondering whether you can verify the artist for 'Where do we go from Here?' (Asimov, Sphere, 1974 ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2265692 Book 1] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2265693 2])) as being Joe Patagno -as you seem to be doing [https://www.flickr.com/photos/75077089@N00/sets/72157601493352318/with/779234716/ here]. Perhaps from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?62923 Orgasmatron: The Heavy Metal Art of Joe Petagno]?.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 05:14, 13 October 2017 (EDT)
 
:And while you're at it, can you perhaps look into [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?114141 Dangerous Vision 2] too?--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 05:35, 13 October 2017 (EDT)
 
::The book [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?62923 Orgasmatron: The Heavy Metal Art of Joe Petagno] contains only heavy metal artwork no science fiction book covers. I cannot "verify" the artist and have "assumed" the artwork is Petagno from the style but I have no proof. Petagno has a Facebook page and I asked about certain covers there but got no reply. The attribution of Petagno from my Flick page is my opinion not fact. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:58, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 
 
== The Elfquest Gatherum: Volume One ==
 
 
Re your verified {{P|514404|The Elfquest Gatherum: Volume One}}: You have the author as only Dwight R. Decker. However, the {{P|638438|first printing}} also verified (and double checked with the verifier) has the authors as Richard Pini & Dwight R. Decker. Would you please double check your version? Also, what is the source of the date? Since the notes states third printing, seems like it should be undated unless you have more information not in the pub notes. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:24, 29 October 2017 (EDT)
 
:I fished out my copy of this. 1. Regarding authorship. Title page says "Edited by / Dwight R. Dicker / Designed by / Poppy Wright" The "Introduction I is by Richard Pini but his name is nowhere on the title page. 2. Source of data is my copy of the book and yes you're right about the date - I'll make the change to this but wait on the authorship as I'm going by what is printed on the title page of my copy --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:17, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 
::You are correct that it should be per title page. I have varianted the two works. Thanks for checking. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:51, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 
 
== Blueprint for Space ==
 
 
re: your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513177 ... I've added this record http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?640105 for the version published by Smithsonian Institution Press. If your Allen & Unwin edition has the same contents, recommend you import those contents into your record from my record. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 18:50, 12 November 2017 (EST)
 
: FYI finally got round to checking this. Contents identical and I've imported from your record. Just need to add acouple more notes for my edition (which incidentally gives an Australian address for the publisher). Can you just check the rear cover - mine says: "Cover design by Mentyka/Schlott" and below that "Printed in Singapore by Toppan Printing Company" (guessing your version was printed in the USA) --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:37, 28 January 2018 (EST)
 
 
== A Gift from Earth ==
 
 
{{P|135571|A Gift from Earth}};.This record has an ISBN recorded but the book does not actually have an ISBN (just the ID ‘63886’ on the spine).  I believe that the ISBN has been copied from the OCLC record.  Should this ISBN be recorded in the ISBN field or should it just be a note? {{P|135501|Neutron Star}} identifies the same problem but does not include the ISBN. --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 15:57, 19 January 2018 (EST)
 
:My suggestion (not being a moderator) is to replicate the note "OCLC lists a derived ISBN which is not on/in the book" from Neutron Star and remove the ISBN --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 03:25, 20 January 2018 (EST)
 
:: I'll do that and see what happens.  Thanks.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 05:21, 20 January 2018 (EST)
 
 
== Graphic novels ==
 
 
Hello, I've deleted some "pure" graphic novels by Segrelles like <i>The Formula</i> (and two that were already present). In this case there is no reason to accept those in the db.[[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 05:25, 11 February 2018 (EST)
 
:Thanks for letting me know. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:40, 19 February 2018 (EST)
 
 
== Ping ==
 
 
Please reply over [[User:Nihonjoe#Udon Entertainment Japanese art portfolios|here]]. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:45, 6 March 2018 (EST)
 
 
== World Soul  ==
 
 
I wonder if [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?210129 this pub] has twice the same essay 'Introduction'. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 16:02, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
 
:It was duplicated. I've remove the duplicate (hopefully). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:35, 15 March 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== Fanthorpe's ''Walk Through Tomorrow'' ==
 
 
I'm tidying up quite a few R. L. Fanthorpe records that relate to their recent Gateway ebook editions. One ebook not yet listed is for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?189290 Walk Through Tomorrow], however the Badger and Vega editions have identical covers as "Walk Through To-morrow". Before I add the [https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/books/detail.page?isbn=9781473204638 ebook], which is titled "Walk Through Tomorrow", can I just check first that the title of your verified Badger edition is indeed as stated and does not have a hyphenated "To-morrow" on the title page? We will need to amend the Karl Zeigfreid title if it does and I will then need to create a new variant for "Tomorrow". Thanks for checking. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 02:27, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
 
:Title page has it as "Walk Through To-Morrow". Clute & Nicholls has it as "Tomorrow" (no hyphen) and Reginald's Science Fiction & Fantasy Literature has it as "to-morrow" (no capital T). Hope that helps --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:13, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== History of the Science Fiction Magazine Part 2 1936-1945 ==
 
 
Re: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?41550 this listing needs more detail about what's on the copyright page. My copy has a "(c) 1975 by Michael Ashley" copyright, plus the ISBN, but no other indication of the edition/printing. Is yours the same or different? I can't tell from description in this listing whether I've got a first edition/printing or later. I've posted this note for the other PV, also. Thanks. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 20:44, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
 
:Mine is identical. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:09, 31 March 2018 (EDT)
 
::Thx. Hauck said same. I PV'd & submitted edit. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 13:32, 31 March 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== A Different Light ==
 
 
Hi, the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?251352 this] is Steve Weston, see [http://www.swsstudio.co.uk/stevetribute/airbrush/swsthumbab.html his son's site]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 11:51, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== Dick's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230441 The Unteleported Man] ==
 
 
Hi! As it is documented that the full NOVEL was first published in 1983, this has to be a novella, as all other publications previous to that year (the analogous Methuen edition also was identified as a CHAPBOOK), so I made the changes already. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 16:05, 11 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== Breakfast in the Ruins ==
 
 
Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269597 this] is Peter Goodfellow, see original art at [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/peter-goodfellow-1950-original-1476701047 worthpoint.com]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 17:44, 12 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== The Seven Altars of Dusarra ==
 
 
Hi. My copy of your verified {{P|46888}} has "The Seven Altars of Dûsarra" on the title page. I therefore believe we should variant the title to include the accent. Any objections?--[[User:AliHarlow|AliHarlow]] 03:14, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
 
:No go right ahead. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:02, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== The Fifth Head of Cerberus ==
 
 
Changed the page count of your verified {{P|355187}} from 191+[1] to 192 to match standard.--[[User:AliHarlow|AliHarlow]] 08:20, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== The Citadel of the Autarch ==
 
 
{{P|142901|The Citadel of the Autarch}}; This record currently has a Publication Date of 1983-11-00, but there is no indication in the Notes as to where the month came from.  The Copyright page in my copy only states “Arrow edition 1983”.  [http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0099320606 amazon.co.uk] gives the date as 1983-10-03 but lists the publisher as Legend.  [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2012699 GoodReads] gives the date as 1983-09-05 with the publisher as Arrow Books.  Do you have any suggestion as to which date (if any) should be used, or do you know where the current Pub.Date came from? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 17:03, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
 
:No suggestions on which date to use and as for where the current date came from "probably" (hazy memory) already there when I verified it and uploaded the cover art. Early days of my activity on ISFBD were nw to the machinations of checking every single detail, I was at that time merely only looking at missing cover artwork or cover art attributions. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:29, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== To merge two  [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?9563 Nemesis] pub records into one ==
 
 
I came across {{P|522758|this}} (PV'd by you) and {{P|23607|this}} (PV'd by inactive user) pub record for Isaac Asimov's Nemesis. Turns out they are exactly the same publications, apart from their primary verification (you and the inactive user). I have asked around how to merge both records, and the answer was that the only way this merger can be achieved is that you upload your cover art (from {{P|522758|this}} pub) to the older record ({{P|23607|this}} one), update the notes accordingly, and then finally you must PV the older record. Once that's done, they are effectvely merged and the {{P|522758|now-redundant pub record}} can be deleted. Let me know if you will take care of this, or conversely, you want me to do the prep work so you only have to PV the result? Thank you! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 07:26, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
:I have added the URL for the cover image to {{P|23607|this}}, so you could move your primary verification. There is a [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk#Nemesis request], however, to use this entry for a first printing. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 16:18, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
::Never noticed that. I'lve moved my verification to record 23067. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:25, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== The Face of the Waters  ==
 
 
I do not see any changes in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?3855325 this submission]. What are you trying to do? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:25, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
 
:That was a result of me attempting to change the Amazon cover art for one I scanned from a transient copy and forgot to do an F5 on the upload screen and then not realising the filename was exactly the same. That's the only change. Sorry about that --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:59, 8 June 2018 (EDT)
 
:: Ah, no worries - I just wanted to make sure you did not miss to do another change. I will reject this then :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:09, 8 June 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== If the Stars Are Gods ==
 
 
Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87404 this] is of course Angus McKie, finally credited [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?643662 here] in 2002. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 14:49, 27 June 2018 (EDT)
 
:Thanks Horzel. Always suspected it was McKie. However I have removed my verification for this publication since I believe it was erroniously verified in the first place (being unable to locate a physical copy in my collection). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:42, 29 June 2018 (EDT)
 
::Reveified as I#ve now found the physica;l copy lurking in a pile. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:37, 1 June 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== The Neverending Story ==
 
 
I added the cover artist Richard Mantel of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?187093 this pub]. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 01:37, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== The Book of Goblins ==
 
 
Hi. You verified and perhaps entered our record of the 1973 Puffin ed. P{{p|516578}}. Yesterday I added the anthology's 1st ed. as ''A Hamish Hamilton Book of Goblins'' and changed the variant relationships accordingly T{{t|2432928}}. I will streamline and perhaps augment publication and title Notes when I learn a little more.
 
 
#SFE3 reports ''A Book of Goblins'' edition date 1973 (Garner list of works, which you cite). One WorldCat library record [http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/16237958 OCLC: 16237958] and one incomplete page at Amazon UK [http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01FIYIN0G ASIN: B01FIYIN0G] (Amazon US does state "Publisher: Puffin / Penguin Books (1855)!") report a 1972 Puffin. For ISBN-0140305556, another page at Amazon UK [http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0140305556/] states "Puffin: New edition edition (26 July 1973)". Does your book indicate whether it is the first Puffin printing, 1973? Any month?
 
#If you have time, please add the page numbers. (Strangely we now have one record of the anthology with page numbers, the 1st US ''A Cavalcade of Goblins'', which is not verified. And it gives page-count viii+227 that conflicts with its roman numeral pagination.)
 
: P.S. The INTERIORART in your list of Contents needs change to the title as "A Book of Goblins" T{{t|2433145}}.
 
#Does Puffin include the last section that [http://lccn.loc.gov/69017905 LCCN: 69-17905] reports for ''A Cavalcade'': 'Bibliographical references included in "Notes and sources" (p. 222-226)'? WorldCat records of the 1973 Puffin report 221 pages, perhaps because they don't count it.
 
Thanks. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 18:28, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 
 
:My edition merely states "Published ny Puffin Books 1972 / Reprinted 1973" no day or month - I've added this to the notes. I've added page numbers and also added two items omitted from the contents list - The Term  by William Carlos Williams (p.49) and The River God (Of the River Minmram in Hertfordshire) by Stevie Smith (p.176). A couple of the unknown contents have a trannslators name - this isn't included in the contents - not sure how to note this. Also E.E. Cummings - this name is entirely capitalised (as are all the names in the book). Can't cahge the interior art title as its grey. Page count - first numbered page is 6, last numbered page is 221. Book includes Notes (p.217) and Sources (p.2018 - 221)
 
Hope that covers everything --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:15, 17 September 2018 (EDT)
 
 
: The two INTERIORART titles are in the database as contents of the 1969 ''Cavalcade'' and 1972 Puffin, so we must Remove the one and Import the other (or create a new listing and later merge it). I'll submit that those two now. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:04, 17 September 2018 (EDT)
 
 
::Since you mentioned that the only entry to have page numbers for the contents was the US version but there was a page numbering conflict I added the page numbers directly from my copy as it was the only way to be certain that everything had been covered (including the two missing content items). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:17, 18 September 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== 50 Years in Space ==
 
 
You will want to re-edit the notes for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87602 50 Years in Space]. As per [http://www.worldcat.org/title/futures-50-years-in-space/oclc/56451010&referer=brief_results OCLC / Worldcat] there was a 2004 edition of which the 2006 paperback was a reprint. Best, John. [[User:JLochhas|JLochhas]] 15:33, 22 September 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== The Proud Robot  ==
 
 
Could you check the author credit in Kuttner and Moore's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?45693 The Proud Robot]'' of the title story.  See [[User talk:Rtrace#The Proud Robot|this discussioin]].  It looks like someone may have removed Moore's name from the credit for this story.  Given that the other stories in your collection, except for "Gallegher Plus" have the combined credit, I'd like to ensure how the credit is reflected in your book to determine how we should correct the title records.  Thanks for checking.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:22, 4 November 2018 (EST)
 
: I have checked my paberback copy of this. None of the stories are individuially credited there are only the notes as on the copyright page: originally published and copyright 1952 "Lewis Padgett (Henry Kuttner & C.L. Moore)" and continuing to state it was based on five individual short stories, four copyright 1942 the fifth 1948. Title page states "The complete Galloway Gallagher stories". Hope that helps --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:31, 10 November 2018 (EST)
 
 
== The Unman ==
 
 
Re {{P|209533|The Unman}}: The container title is given as "The Unman / Kovrigin's Chronicles", but the publication title is only "The Unman". I see the cover lists both titles. What is actually in the publication? Does it list just the one on the title page? Are there two title pages (similar to a ACE double)? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:46, 11 November 2018 (EST)
 
:Title page lists both titles sperately (on unnumbered ppage iii}, unnumbered page i has THE UNMAN / KOVRIGAN'S CHRONICLE", copyright page seperates titles by a coma --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:42, 16 November 2018 (EST)
 
::As both titles are listed on the title page, they should both be listed on the publication record. When the title page lists the titles separately, we use the " / " nomenclature to indicate that they are separate vs. a combined title. I have updated the pub record. Thanks for checking. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 11:26, 17 November 2018 (EST)
 
 
== Whom the Gods Would Slay ==
 
 
Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?415295 this] is Jeff Jones, it's a detail of the (signed) cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252148 The Quest of Kadji]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 06:25, 16 November 2018 (EST)
 
 
== Author for "Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination ... Graphic Story Adaptation" ==
 
 
Hi. Heads up I'm going to submit an edit for your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?218785. Currently, the artist, Chaykin, is entered as the author … and the author, Bester, isn't credited, even though it's the full of his novel. I read the 'Rules & Standards' discussion about graphic novels and understand that's not a focus going forward. However, since this pub already in, I believe the record should link to Bester. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 12:02, 7 December 2018 (EST)
 
:Go right ahead and make the necessary edits. Thanks for letting me know. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:40, 7 December 2018 (EST)
 
 
== Invasion of the Bodysnatchers  ==
 
 
Hello,
 
 
Can you take a look at [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?487079 your verified]? The note says "Month from worldcat.org" but the publication date is just an year and has no month specified. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:08, 7 December 2018 (EST)
 
:Not my note. Publication only has year. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:16, 8 December 2018 (EST)
 
 
== LCCN number ==
 
 
Hello,
 
 
You are trying to add LCCN 72-8875 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4121075 here] which leads to a book that has nothing to do with the one you are editing (namely [https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchCode=LCCN&searchArg=72008875&searchType=1&permalink=y Molecular mechanisms of enzyme action]). Can you please clarify where this number is coming from? If it is printed in the book, that needs to be noted in the notes and not just left like that with no explanation. I will approve the submission as soon as you let me know how I need to edit it after that so that this LCCN is taken care of. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:41, 25 December 2018 (EST)
 
: Same question [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4121081 here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4121082 here]. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:43, 25 December 2018 (EST)
 
:That was a typo on my part - LCCN should be 72-88775. It;s printed on the copyright page of each of the volumes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:29, 26 December 2018 (EST)
 
:: Thanks. I will approve, fix the number and template it with a note that it is for the 3 volumes combined. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:44, 26 December 2018 (EST)
 
 
== The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes/Visions ==
 
 
I've been entering artworks for another Whelan art book, which has some of the same illustrations shown in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35350 The Art of Michael Whelan: Scened/Visions] and found that some of these illustrations were not included in the contents of the latter pub.  So I'm entering missing artworks into your verified pub; I'm partway finished now. Hope you don't mind. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:57, 9 February 2019 (EST)
 
:Not at all. You didn't have to let me know but thanks for doing so anyway. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:38, 10 February 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan ==
 
 
I added some notes to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?315164 Outermost: The Art + Life of Jack Gaughan].  I also credited the INTERIORART to Gaughan. [[User:Biomassbob|Bob]] 16:19, 23 May 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== SF: The Other Side of Realism ==
 
 
[Moved from User Page to here --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:45, 13 June 2019 (EDT)]
 
:I have submitted a correction on Clifford D. Simak's name (misspelled as "Sinak") and added metadata to the trade paperback edition of this essay collection http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513610, which you primary-verified. [[User:Hifrommike65|Hifrommike65]] 19:02, 11 June 2019 (CST)
 
 
== A Handful of Darkness - Philip K. Dick ==
 
 
Hi, you are PV3 {{P|166271|here}}. I have added additional details from the copyright page here
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4364585
 
 
Thanks. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 16:37, 12 August 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== Alien the Movie Novel ==
 
 
In [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513147 this] publication, your comment quotes "full-cover photos", but the cover states "full color photos". Is this a typo or were you quoting from a different part of the book? [[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 10:05, 17 August 2019 (EDT)
 
:It was a typo. Now corrected. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:37, 17 August 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== No rollbacks ==
 
 
Not automatic ones anyway. Is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4390568 this] the update that should not have happened? I do not remember the notes being materially different but I may had missed it (especially of you had verified it). We do have backups though - so if you can confirm this is the update, we can see tomorrow if we can pull the old version off a week old backup for example? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:30, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
: Looks like it cos I spelled "Burroughs" incorrectly wuth a 'o' instead of a 'u'. Not entirely sure quite how it happened mind as was "reasonably" sure I was editing "The Moon Men." I uploaded a cover as well. I have since copied and pasted the notes I added and the cover scan into the correct publication. I recall that I had forgotten to add the other prices after submission hence today I went back to add them but found that it had all gone horribly wrong. Apologies for the glaring mistake. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:15, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
:: It happens. :) Do you want to try to pull the original notes from archive? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:57, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
::: Aa previously stated the added notes don't apply to that publication. At least that's what I infer you mean by that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:19, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
:::: Yep, understood - it is early morning here, my brain asks for more clarifications than usual. Let me see what can be done today :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:37, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
 
::::: My development server is currently configured to use the data from 9:30am on Saturday. Its version of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?107531 the publication record] is the same as what's currently on the main server with the following exceptions:
 
 
:::::* No cover image
 
:::::* The Notes field says "Month of publication and cover artist information on this book from The Whole Science Fiction Data Base No.4."
 
 
::::: Is this enough information or should I access an earlier version of the database? [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 12:53, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
:::::: That is enough. Thanks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:23, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
 
::::::: Sure thing! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 14:27, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== The Moons of Jupiter ==
 
 
I posted a response to [[ISFDB:Verification_requests#The_Moons_of_Jupiter|your question]] on the verification requests page. Since it's been awhile since you asked, I figured I'd let you know. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:22, 29 September 2019 (EDT)
 
::Thank you. I've been on leave for most of the week so I've mostly been sleeping. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:38, 29 September 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== Starmont Reader's Guides ==
 
 
I'm trying to find out how the cover illustrations were credited in the early Starmont reader's guides. You verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?19020 Joe Haldeman] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?234033 Theodore Sturgeon]. The credit as we have it now is to 'Stephen E. Fabian, Sr. and Stephen Fabian'. I have a strong suspicion it should be 'Stephen E. Fabian, Sr. and Stephen Fabian, Jr.'. Could you check these for me? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:30, 11 October 2019 (EDT)
 
: Both of these have "Cover by Stephen E. Fabian Sr. amd Jr." on the copyright page. Hope that helps. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:31, 12 October 2019 (EDT)
 
:: Thanks! I'll wait for response of the other verifiers. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 13:58, 12 October 2019 (EDT)
 
 
:::Thanks for checking. I credited Joe Haldeman and Theodore Sturgeon to both Fabians, and added a note to the pub series. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:33, 19 October 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== Science Fiction Stories ==
 
 
May I add the page numbers of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?519195 this PV pub] equal to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?29172 this] because I suppose the order of the pieces is not alphabetical. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 02:31, 13 October 2019 (EDT)
 
:Yes go right ahead. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:50, 14 October 2019 (EDT)
 
:: Done. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 04:10, 27 November 2019 (EST)
 
 
== The International Science Fiction Yearbook (1979) ==
 
 
I'd like to change the title of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?103340 this pub] to 'The International Science Fiction Yearbook 1979', as stated on the titlepage. I'll also add some notes (there are none). Hope you agree. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 08:33, 6 November 2019 (EST)
 
:Go right ahead --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:59, 6 November 2019 (EST)
 
::Thanks and done. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:48, 6 November 2019 (EST)
 
 
== All Judgment Fled ==
 
 
Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?152561 this] is Bruce Pennington, according to the checklist in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?411890 Pennington: A Portrait of a Master Fantasy Artist]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 04:19, 15 November 2019 (EST)
 
: Same for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?344642 The Shrinking Man]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 04:28, 15 November 2019 (EST)
 
::I'd love to get hold of a copy of that. Sadky not available. Go ahead and make the edits. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:59, 15 November 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Fantasy Art Masters: Dick Jude ==
 
 
Hi, I'd like to modify your PV1 {{P|326805|here}}.
 
: Change to full title "Fantasy Art Masters: The Best in Fantasy and SF Art Worldwide"
 
: Publisher: to "Collins / HarperCollins<i>Publishers</i>" to record that <i>at the time</i> of publishing, that's who owned the Collins imprint.
 
: Add the uncredited Introduction (on page 8).
 
: Credit the Month/Day source as Amazon. Month also confirmed Locus1.
 
Shall I make the changes? Thanks, Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 08:06, 19 November 2019 (EST)
 
::Plase go right ahead and do so. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:43, 19 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::Thanks, will do :) Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 15:39, 19 November 2019 (EST)
 
 
::::Somehow in these edits the container (NONFICTION) title was lost. I restored it. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 04:10, 21 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::Thanks for that fix Willem. Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 01:25, 22 November 2019 (EST)
 
 
(unindent) I propose adding the extended Contents details of all the artwork and to do it author by author so that I can deal with all the varianting and merging that will need to be done as I go along. What do you think?
 
<br>Also, as it's relevant to this publication, could you check the title spelling for p8 {{P|513502|in this publication}}; whether it's Giants' or Giant's. Thanks, Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 16:23, 27 November 2019 (EST)
 
:No need to check p8 {{P|513502|in this publication}}, I've found it online - it's Giants'. Fantasy Art Masters has it as Giant's.
 
:Are you ok for me to go ahead with the Contents? Thanks, Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 06:16, 2 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Art of Imagination: 20th Century Visions of Science Fiction, Horror, and Fantasy ==
 
 
Hi again, I've changed the date of the interior art 'The Hand of Chaos' p622 to it's original publication date (1994-00-00) - your PV {{P|277739|here}}. Thanks, Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 23:43, 22 November 2019 (EST)
 
: Thank you but it is unneccessary for you to inform me of such minor changes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:49, 23 November 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Voices for the Future: Essays on Major Science Fiction Writers, Volume Two ==
 
 
Can you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294603 this pub] for me? I think the titles of the essays are taken from the table of contents and not from the heading on the page where the essays begin. In my paperback edition, 'Phillip Jose' Farmer: The Trickster as Artist' has Philip in stead of Phillip, 'What Are We to Make of J.G. Ballard's Apocalypse' has a question mark and 'Discovering Worlds: The Fiction of Ursual K. Le Guin' has Ursula in stead of Ursual. Is yours the same? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 10:53, 1 December 2019 (EST)
 
:"Phillip" and "Ursual" are most certainly typos. The Franklin esssay does indeed have a "?" on page 82. As to whether the ToC takes precidence I know not. Make any amendments you deem fit. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:58, 1 December 2019 (EST)
 
:: Thank you, will do. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 11:13, 1 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Panther Granada ==
 
 
Hi, with regard to the conversation here [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#.22Panther_Granada.22_and_.22Panther_.2F_Granada.22__-__Imprint_.2F_Publisher], you are PV {{P|101321|here}}.
 
 
Could you please check and let me know whether you agree to a publisher change to "Panther / Granada". Thanks, Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 23:48, 4 December 2019 (EST)
 
:Title page has "Panther" (in small captals) over "Granada Publishing" (bold, larger captals). You can go ahead and make the change. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:31, 5 December 2019 (EST)
 
::Thanks for sorting that out, I appreciate it. Also, In case you missed it, did you see my last question in the <i>Fantasy Art Masters</i> post above, I'd like to press on with that, if that's ok. Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 15:01, 5 December 2019 (EST)
 
:::Yes you can go ahead with the edit to the Fantasy Art Masters record. Just a gentle reminder that it is unneccessary for you to inform me of such minor changes. Just go ahead and make the changes. I realize that ISFDB etiquette requires you to do so but to me it's a "minor alteration" and if necessary I can view any changes to my PV records using "My Changed Primary Verifications" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:54, 6 December 2019 (EST)
 
::::Thanks for that clarification, it makes it easier for both of us. As a new editor it's sometimes difficult to find the line between etiquette and necessary/required with other editors and with varying degrees of change. Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 11:34, 6 December 2019 (EST)
 
:::::It's fine. You were only doing what etiquette required you to do. Just be aware that different verifiers have different rquirements for notifications - take those into account - usually (as in my case) a big yellow box of text at the top of the "talk" page should let you know. You should, of course, continue to inform me of major changes to any of my PV records. Yiu havn't done anything wrong BTW - you may be more of a "completist" (nitpicker) that I am. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:57, 6 December 2019 (EST)
 
::::::That all seems fair, thanks. Kev. [[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] 15:23, 6 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Science Fiction: A Critical Guide ==
 
 
I entered the contents for my TP edition of this title, and imported it in your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356139 HC edition]. Can you check the pagenumbers/titles etc.? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:32, 7 December 2019 (EST)
 
:Checks out with my HC edition --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 22:45, 7 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Alexandria Poster—1998 ==
 
 
Somehow [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1704744 this] was set as a short fiction which does not make sense in this book and with this artist so I set it to interior art. If it is indeed a short fiction, I will be happy to revert it and add notes to that effect. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:48, 10 December 2019 (EST)
 
: Would you mind checking [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1704897 this one] in the same book? Is the author really credited with the Japanese name? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 03:35, 10 December 2019 (EST)
 
:: One of the other verifiers confirmed both so this is just a notice that it had been fixed now. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:16, 10 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
== A Sense of Wonder ==
 
 
I have a strong suspicion [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?201117 this edition] of "A Sense of Wonder" is the same as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?281941 this one]. ISBN is the same (and points to a publication date in 1977), and the data of the second are taken from Locus #205 (SF books published in Britain, August 1977). Do you mind if I change the publication date to 1977-08-00, add a note about Locus #205 and delete the non-verified edition? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 08:33, 18 December 2019 (EST)
 
:Hi Willem. Looks like the same trick was pulled as for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?370411 this book] i.e."reprinted without updating the copyright page; old stock was used with the new cover" - maybe worth adding that text to the notes as well. Might be worth keeping it as "date unknown" rather than inferring 1977 as publication dae - although having said that the copyright page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518413 this edition] has "Reprinted August 1977" after the Dec 1974 date so Locus 205 is correct. My copy has a Prudential life insurance advert between pages 112-113 but it is of no help as the text mentions "April 1st 1974" and there is a printed code "EL/11/1973/1239/FP(4528)" - which would, hazarding a guess, be Nov 1973. I think you're fairly safe in deleting the non-verified edition and adding the note. Not sure if this inserted advert in my copy is worth a note also. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:10, 18 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
::Thanks for the fast response, information added (also the note about the advert). If another printing exists, someday there will be a verification copy to compare. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:05, 18 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Non-Stop by Aldiss, Faber&Faber hardcover ==
 
 
Hi. Re: your verified http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?714183, it's listed with 1958 pub date, which is the novel's original copyright date, but it must be a later printing published in 1965 since you say the dust jacket promotes Faber&Faber 1965 book 'The Best SF Stories of Brian W. Aldiss' (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?37417). That would also explain the higher price than the 1958 edition. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 17:32, 24 December 2019 (EST)
 
:Ok I'll edit the entry - put date unknown and add note. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 03:27, 25 December 2019 (EST)
 
 
== Matar IV ==
 
 
[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1869094 This] painting on p57 of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?476424+f Aliens in Space] is by Chris Moore, according to the illustration credits on the contents page, not by Les Edwards. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:11, 14 January 2020 (EST)
 
:Yes quite correct. Not sure where the Edwards attribution came from although the artwork isn't in Journeyman or in Blood and Iron. Does have the "feeling" of being an Edwards image but that's just me. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:29, 15 January 2020 (EST)
 
 
== Horowitz or Horwitz? ==
 
 
Hello, for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513170 this publication] it seems more likely that the publisher is actually Horwitz (same ISBN code, known publication series). As you are only infrequently visiting, I have already made the change, but if it was wrong, please correct it again. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 05:17, 20 January 2020 (EST)
 
:Yes you are correct. Must have been a typo on my part. I'll amend the mis-spelling of the publisher in the note  as well. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:50, 20 January 2020 (EST)
 
 
== The Strange Experiences of Mr. Janik ==
 
 
JVjr reports "The version in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513745 Toward the Radical Centre] is actually called more faithfully "Mr. Janik's Cases" ("Translated by Norma Comrada. From the Czech "Prípady pana Janík" [sic!] in Povídky z jedné kapsy (Tales from One Pocket), 1929.")".--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 17:07, 24 January 2020 (EST)
 
:ToC has it as "The Strange Experiences of Mr. Janik" and it is thus titled on p.226. Note at end of story reads thus: Translated by Paul Selver, revised by the editor. Originally published in Tales from Two Pockets, 1932. From the Czech "Prípady pana Janík" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:37, 25 January 2020 (EST)
 
 
== Secondary Source Credits ==
 
 
I approved your recent secondary source cover art credits, but a couple of items:
 
*Your edits created invalid HTML that broke the display. When a pub note use a HTML list, you cannot overwrite the <code><nowiki></ul></nowiki></code> as that is needed to close the list. Also, any new items added to the list need to start with a <code><nowiki><li></nowiki></code>. I fixed these edits.
 
*Please give the name of the source instead of simply saying "here". Even though these were linked to the source publication, ISFDB links are not guaranteed to be stable over time. If the link to that pub were to change, the source statement no longer work leaving "here" meaningless. I changed these to "Cover art credit from Robert Holdstock's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204909 Encyclopedia of Science Fiction]".
 
Thanks for finding these credits. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:56, 15 February 2020 (EST)
 
::Thanks. I note there are "many" entries with notes linked to other publications using the word "here" and as I'm not great with HTML code I merely copied and pasted text from another entry that refereneced Holdstock. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:26, 15 February 2020 (EST)
 
 
== The Shadow Over Innsmouth and Other Stories of Horror ==
 
 
Hi, the signature on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309547 this] seems to be same as on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?296471 The Time Machine a.o.s.] (and both for Scholastic), so the cover artist must be Alan Magee. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:58, 16 March 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== Reviews in Magill's Survey of Science Fiction Literature ==
 
 
I have added [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?768013 this publication] which reprints several book reviews by Jack Williamson, including 4 that first appeared in Frank N. Magill's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?231769 Survey of Science Fiction Literature]''.  The reviews in question appear on pages 56 through 72.  Please feel free to import them into the correct volume.  I'll leave this same note on the other verifier's [[User talk:Markwood|talk page]].  However, as you note that you check in infrequently, they may see this first.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:09, 12 April 2020 (EDT)
 
:Not to be negative but adding content of that magnitude isn't something that I would attempt to tackle myself. Hauck also possesses some volumes but he's inactive. The contents of the Magill volumes may include reprinted material from other sources I an unaware of. Sorry but I'm going to take a hard pass at adding content to these volumes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:19, 12 April 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== Jules Verne translations ==
 
 
I have been documenting the various translations of Jules Verne's works and trying to identify a piece of text from each translation so editors can position their publications under the correct title record. You are on record as a primary verifier for one or more publications for which I am looking for text or which are placed under a generic translation title. I would be grateful if you could assist in this by checking your copies, as listed below, and providing the initial text for missing translations or an indication of the translation for those unspecified. These are listed on the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Jules_Verne_Translations Jules Verne Translations] wiki. Thank you. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 14:27, 10 May 2020 (EDT)
 
*Unspecified translation: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1880988 Master of the World] (title) in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?525118 Master of the World] (publication)
 
:Ok Chapter 1 begins "If I speak of myself in this story" so from the page you linked translator would be Charles F. Horne although I note [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?186960 these] which also starts with the same has "Translated by an anonymous hand" Hope that answers your question. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:27, 10 May 2020 (EDT)
 
:: Thanks for replying. Those needed a bit of clean-up as well. The text for the one you referenced is probably there from the Gutenberg publication, without knowing there were multiple translations. I've been working at the title level and just started on the publication level where there are verifiers who can help out. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 18:22, 10 May 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== More Issues at Hand ==
 
 
Would you please look at {{P|513606|this publication}}? It seems to be an incomplete, duplicate of {{P|650936|this one}} which you also verified. Thanks. Should the first one be deleted? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 11:21, 25 May 2020 (EDT)
 
:: Yes the first can be deleted. Good catch and apologies if it caused any issues. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:31, 25 May 2020 (EDT)
 
:::No problem. It has been deleted. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:42, 25 May 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== That strange book  ==
 
 
I moved the thread to the correct [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#A_very_strange_book part] of the Community Portal (the Talk page is for project related chat) and posted an answer after finding the book and its history :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:27, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
 
::Thanks (and apologies for sticking it on the wrong thread). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:34, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
 
::: NO worries. It is a weird book indeed. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:26, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== The Birds and Other Stories ==
 
 
For your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4668006 The Birds and Other Stories] clone, you left the 1963 date, but the pub note says "Reprinted 1963, 1965, 1968, 1971". Is this the 1971 printing instead? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:22, 31 May 2020 (EDT)
 
:Yes it's the 1971 printing. Sorry I got the date right first time but forgot the ISBN so cancelled and redid it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:17, 1 June 2020 (EDT)
 
::No problem. I accepted and updated the date. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:22, 1 June 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== 2006/2007 ISBNs ==
 
 
In 2006/2007, the ISBNs were switching from the older ISBN-10 to the newer ISBN-13. As a result, through 2006, books had either of the two numbers (sometimes both). Thanks for fixing the ISBN [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252840 here]. The two versions are the same (978 at the start changes the control/last number as well; the other 9 numbers match) but having the one as printed in the book is what we are trying for. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:57, 2 June 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== H.P. Lovecraft Box Set ==
 
 
Just a reminder that we have this nice import feature that allows the stories we have in the DB to be added to a book without the need for a merge after that. I will merge all in the "Macabre Stories" I just approved but for the next volume, it may save you some typing :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:04, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:That may well be true but I'd still have to search for the individual story titles to add into each volume. Probably better for me to manually enter the contents for these volumes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:12, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:: No worries :) I merged all that pinged as duplicate but [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/find_pub_dups.cgi?776874 these two]. If you can see which version you have, you can submit the correct merge for them. I suspect it is the stories but who knows. One of the stories I merged is actually a prose poem in the DB. I also varianted the one that we did not have under exactly that title. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:18, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
::: How long is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2733818 this]? Can it be the complete [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?27661 novel]? And can you check which version of Nyarlathotep is in the book [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?69021 this one] (I suspect so - because of the series) or [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?108686 this one]? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:27, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:::: Same question for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2733820 this]. It looks on the shorter side but we have a [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?21818 novel] record. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:29, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
(unindent)"Herbert West: Reanimator story printed with very long dash instead of colon both on title page and p.23. I've entered it as it is on ISFDB but made a note." - m-dash? If so, we need to record it with an m-dash... I can change it if so - we even have it with a m-dash: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?556057 here]. Is this how it looks? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:31, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
: And on the last one: is this one [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2733837 The Whisper in Darkness] or "The Whisperer in Darkness"? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:40, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:: OK. I'll deal with the issues IN ORDER. (1). Dexter Ward. Books are uniform 4.5" (wide) x 7". Story runs from page 221 to 367 (146 pages) so long enough for complete novel but no clue. (2) Nyarlathotep is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?69021 this] (3) Yes to Herbert West it look like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?556057 this] (4) Mountains of Madness - runs from page 9 to 124 (115 pages). Introduction states "novella" (5) Yes it's Whisperer - it was a typo. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:47, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
::: Sorry - I was just leaving notes while merging. :)
 
:::* Dexter Ward - Changed to novel and merged
 
:::* Nyarlathotep - merged
 
:::* Herbert West—Reanimator - fixed and merged
 
:::* Mountains of Madness - I doubt it is a full novel (40K words)... we have two options - make this a novel and merge or force a word recount, convince people it is not a novel and reclassify... Thoughts? This will also change the overall type of the slipcase - the two novels force it into omnibus territory (where it is better anyway -- because then we can import the collections and not just the contents and show the relationship. If we decide this is a novel (for now - with a note that it is called novella in the book), I will fix the combined work.
 
:::* Whisperer  - fixed and merged.
 
::: And on a very separate note - it is a dangerous place around here and my own set is leaving an Amazon warehouse as we speak :). I will just wait for you to do all the work and will verify after you when it is here :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:01, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:::: Great. It's a very lovely set - and I couldn't resist either - not at £35. As for Mountains of Madness - 35 lines of text per page, average 11 words per line (385 words per page); 115 pages gives about 44275 words. So make your own mind up about it as I don't have a clue. I also went a bit mad on Amazon (and Abe) and ordered rather a lot of books (and anime). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:09, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
::::: Yeah... me and Amazon have love/hate relationaship. Same with me and a few publisher sites... they love me for the business, my bank account hates them :) I do not do anime but I do graphic novels so... as bad :)
 
::::: Sounds like a very short novel - but a novel indeed. I will merge - and then change the ebook and slipcase type. Do you want me to import the collections while I am at it so we can finish that tonight? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:16, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
(inindent) Sure. It's 11:30am here. As for love/hate relationship yes some of the collector's edition anime I buy is £60 a pop. Not having worked since 20th March and still being paid I have a large amount of spare cash floating around. If only there was a set like that or Clark Ashton Smith. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:23, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
: 8 hours earlier here :) OK - here we go: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?776870 the set]. Feel free to add any comments you want and so on.  :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:46, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:: Looks fine to me. The only thing I didm't do was replicate the lengthy notes under [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?654473 Randolph Carter] for the other volumes. I did consider deleting the bit about there allegedly being a paperback copy but decided against it. If you think it's necessary to copy those notes into the other volumes notes field then I can do that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:51, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
::: Nope - it is only for that volume - this is the only one I see the pb being talked about and being offered (with no copies available - what a surprise) - for the other 5, all booksellers have them as hardcovers. That is why I was so sure this pb does not exist. We can clean them up a bit - I will look at them in the morning again and I know that some bits need to go to other places (the title record of the omnibus for example). :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:56, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== The Chronicles of Amber ==
 
 
Hello. Just a FYI. We do not generally record unnumbered page numbers that only contain 'miscellany'. Therefore, I've removed the '+[3]' from the total page count for your PV'd publication {{p|778385|here}}. Keeping that information in the Notes is a perfect place for it though. This is also in line with the rules on total number of pages - see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Pages here]: ''...For books, the general rule is to use the last printed page number... ...There is no need to record these unnumbered pages if they contain no content that needs to be recorded.'' Typically, we do not record a half-page bio of the author. Regards,  [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 13:25, 8 June 2020 (EDT)
 
::Ok sorry about that. I'll do a sight note edit and add a cover scan. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:23, 8 June 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== The Uncertainty Principle ==
 
 
For your verified {{P|192617|The Uncertainty Principle}} (publication), should there be a story titled {{T|2746308|The Uncertainty Principle}} (title record) on page 1? It looks like the first story is missing. If so, please import that title record. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:03, 19 July 2020 (EDT)
 
::Manually added --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:10, 19 July 2020 (EDT)
 
 
== Edward Mortlemans ==
 
 
For the art credits to Edward Mortlemans, is that the spelling used by the  ERB Webzine site? His actual name is {{A|Edward Mortelmans}} (el vs le). I will make the corrections, but wanted to know if I needed to update the notes also. I tried searching their site, but I had a hard time finding the specific editions. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:32, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
 
 
For {{P|285429|The Gods of Mars (abridged)}}, since that one is per the title page, please double check that one also. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:34, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
 
 
:For "Tarzan and The Jewels of Opar";"The Beasts of Tarzan" and "The Return of Tarzan". Text on the ERB website for all three is "Edward Mortlemans. For "Gods of Mars" it is Edward Mortelmans spelled correctly in the book but "Edward Mortlemans" on the ERB website. Maybe a mis-spelling of his name on the website. Also the puiblisher Dragon is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?31996 this one] not [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?643 this one] as the copyright page clearly states Atlantic Book Publishing Co Ltd in all cases. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:00, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
 
::Changes made. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:10, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
 

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