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[http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Mavmaramis/Archive_1 Archive 1 (2015-2020)]
 
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== Don Maitz ==
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== Recent Cyteen changes ==
  
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As I finish my Maitz collection, I've edited {{P|299609|First Maitz}} [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 01:32, 24 August 2020 (EDT)
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Hi. You just made changes to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?8537 Cyteen] with [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5813497 this submission]. While I don't disagree with the changes, you really should have contacted both [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:GlennMcG GlennMcG] and me who are active PVs for that publication first. We both respond quickly. You also should have changed the page count to [7]+680 with the first map on [6] and the second map on [7]. Regards, [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 07:50, 19 November 2023 (EST)
  
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== The Queen of the Swords ==
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:Would you object if I make the following changes to the hardcover edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?8537 Cyteen]? Change the page count to [7]+680 with the first map on [6] and the second map on [7]. (Also sent to other PV) Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 15:04, 13 December 2023 (EST)
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::Decidedly yes object to doing that - does not at all match my physical copy. First numbered page is 1 (Verbal Text from: THE HUMANE REVOLUTION....).The maps are on the preceeding UNNUMBERED pages before this and there are decidedly not seven unnumbered pages prior to page 1 either. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 15:43, 13 December 2023 (EST)
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:::Looking at the Help text for the Pages field, it says "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages. There is no need to record these unnumbered pages if they contain no content that needs to be recorded.". We both agree that there are unnumbered pages before page 1 and there are two maps on those unnumbered pages. My understanding is that you count the unnumbered pages starting with the first page with printing on it from the front of the book and count until you reach the last unnumbered page with printing on it. Starting with the page that has only "Cyteen" printed on it and stopping on the last map page, there are a total of 7 unnumbered pages. Per the Help, that number is entered in brackets, hence [7], making the correct page count value [7]+680. The two maps are on unnumbered pages 6 and 7, so they are entered as pages [6] and [7] respectively in the page number field of their Regular title entries. Does this make sense to you? Regards, [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:00, 14 December 2023 (EST)
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::::You are overcomplicating what is an already straightforward entry. Normally one does not count things like title page, copyright page etc as part of the page numbering. Do whay you will I have nothing furthwer to say. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 11:54, 14 December 2023 (EST)
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:::::Based on your response, I thought it would be prudent to check on this with a moderator. Based on [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Anniemod#Did_I_explain_this_correctly_or_am_I_wrong.3F this discussion], I determined that my counting procedure was correct. Since the other PV agrees with my revised changes, I have updated the record accordingly. Regards. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:32, 16 December 2023 (EST)
  
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I added cover art credit to {{P|125921|The Queen of Swords}} since that cover is used for five other editions of that title. [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 15:38, 24 August 2020 (EDT)
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== Fontana's A Cure For Cancer ==
  
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== The Star Diaries ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?220125; I added Archive.org link in a PENDING edit and fixed publisher to Fontana / Collins since that's what it says in the book on the title page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:49, 21 November 2023 (EST)
  
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== Childhood's End ==
  
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Would you be able to check the title page of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309555 this one] - I am trying to find out if the author name is spelled Stanisław or Stanislaw. The cover uses the correct Polish spelling so chasing down the title page to see if we should swap the name. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:32, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
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Can you please take a look at {{P|356516|Childhood's End}}? The catalog number is given as G643, but the cover shows G463. Is this a database typo or does the book have the transposed digits inside? Can you either correct the record or add a publication note regarding the disconnect? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:27, 2 December 2023 (EST)
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:Hi Annie. Title page uses Stanislaw without the slant through the L. In fact the cover is the only instance where the slant is used. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:02, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
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:It was a databse typo. Check physical copy and it is G463 which is only printed on the cover and nowhere else. I've submitted a correction. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 08:32, 2 December 2023 (EST)
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:: Awesome. I will add a note about that to the publication so we know what is going on (and I do not bother you again in 6 months when I forget we cleared this one). Feel free to change the wording if you do not like it. Thanks for checking! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:07, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
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::Approved. Thanks! --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:06, 2 December 2023 (EST)
  
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== Soldier, Ask Not ==
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== Golden Apples of the Sun 1978 UK HC ==
  
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Tony Roberts is the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?257755 this], he states in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1267249 SF artist interview] in Science Fiction Monthly, November 1975 that "I've just finished the covers for Gordon Dickson's Dorsai trilogy". While this title is not explicitly mentioned, Sphere published "Soldier, Ask Not" with the text "The second in the Dorsai trilogy" on the cover. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 09:37, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?520003; I added Archive.org link and entered page numbers for the stories in a PENDING edit but there are 2 stories not in the book; "Great Fire" and "Big Black and White Game". I'm going to remove them and also import Mugnaini's interior art. Re: publisher I think it should probably be changed to this, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubs_not_in_series.cgi?17853, as similarly dated and priced Bradbury books are there, but that's up to you. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:48, 8 December 2023 (EST)
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:Can confirm the two stories you mentioned are not in this publication. As far as publisher goes maybe wise to include Granada as the publiher (so something like Hart-Davis, MacGibbon / Granada) as Granada Publishing is prominent on title page and copyright page. Otherwise someone might assume that Granada had no part in it's publication. You could always raise this on the Moderator Noticeboard on the Commiunity Portal given that merely becasue other Bradbury publications of this date were merely entered as Hart-Davis, MacGibbon does not indicate Granada were not involved. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 13:20, 8 December 2023 (EST)
  
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== Elmore: Twenty Years of Art ==
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== Suaine and the Crow-God ==
  
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merging record with ArtFantastix reissue and importing content into {{P|514571|Twenty Years of Art}} [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 16:27, 11 September 2020 (EDT)
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I added the Internet Archive scan to {{P|278254|Suaine and the Crow-God}}. In doing so, I noticed the page count was wrong (the prior count was less than the last listed contents) and two typos. I made the corrections based on the scan. If by some odd chance, the scan differs from your copy, please let me know and I will revert and clone a new record. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 11:25, 10 December 2023 (EST)
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:Page count should be 255, checked with my physical copy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 11:58, 10 December 2023 (EST)
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::Thanks for confirming. My prior edit seems to have gone missing. I must not have hit submit. I re-did it so you will now also see the typo corrections. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:32, 10 December 2023 (EST)
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:::I noticed edit was missing so I did one; it was rejected because J's edit fixed the same stuff. However, there may be a few other issues. I think "day on end" should be days; also, why are some art titles capitalized and others not? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:13, 10 December 2023 (EST)
  
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== David B. Mattingly ==
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== The Lost Continent of Mu ==
  
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I've added notes and contents to {{P|35124|Alternate Views, Alternate Worlds}} [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 03:22, 15 September 2020 (EDT)
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Would you please check the page 70 artwork title of {{P|972226|The Lost Continent of Mu}}? Is the missing space in "TheDistribution..." a database typo? If not, please add a note stating it is original to the pub. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 11:28, 10 December 2023 (EST)
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:It's a typo. Should be "The Distribution" (with a space). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 11:50, 10 December 2023 (EST)
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::Fixed. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:35, 10 December 2023 (EST)
  
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== Best S.F. Stories from New Worlds 8 ==
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== Tegne ==
  
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4187<br>
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34650; I added Archive.org link and other stuff to the PB in a PENDING edit; first word in the title has an accent over the e so I fixed that. If your PV TP does, too, then you can fix that and I'll add it to cover art (parent and variant) and title record. EDIT: I just noticed something; since it's a series then Tegne shouldn't be in the PB or TP titles because that's the rules here, dropping series names from titles. The series title does have the accent over the e so if you agree to remove Tegne then I'll re-do my edit doing the same and then I'll just have to add the accent to the cover art(s). --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:05, 12 December 2023 (EST)
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I believe this note is to say: First published in 1974". Do you agree? --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 13:26, 21 September 2020 (EDT)
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:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34650 Warlord of Zendow] does indeed have an accent over the e of Tegne. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 23:58, 12 December 2023 (EST)
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:Probably. I don't have my copy immediately to hand to verify. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:37, 21 September 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== The Iron Man: A Story in Five Nights ==
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== Half A Life Title ==
  
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269198; While just making an edit adding archived link I noted subtitle "and Other Stories" is also in this edition so can you add that to the title if it's also in your copy? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:38, 20 December 2023 (EST)
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:Done. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 11:54, 20 December 2023 (EST)
  
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I am considering converting [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?518250 this one] to a chapbook - there are no 40,000 words in this story (I am not that there are even 17K). Any objections? Any chance to do a rough word count? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:26, 23 September 2020 (EDT)
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== Space Traveller ==
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:No objections. Clute & Nicholls states it is a "chap" so that would seem to clinch it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:59, 24 September 2020 (EDT)
 
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:: Done. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:56, 26 September 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== The Shepherd Is My Lord ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?70359; While adding Archive.org link I also noted NZ $18.95 price, no number on last page, and misspelled word on title page (Reminiscenes); not sure if that error requires a variant but that's up to you. I also added link for Star Diaries (Mandarin edition); nothing else was required for that. Both are PENDING and should be approved sometime in the New Year. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:12, 29 December 2023 (EST)
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:That's fine. All details you mentioned confirmed from my own copy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 01:50, 30 December 2023 (EST)
  
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Hello, concerning the use of html in the Notes field in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4786585 this submission]. You made a small mistake. The proper use is as follows : <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/schongut/3993385008/">text</a>. Note the <a href="URL">text</a> format. Substitute URL for the website page address to link to, and 'text' for the text to click on. I've accepted your submission and corrected the link accordingly. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 08:02, 7 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Digital Fantasy Painting ==
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:I did try to follow the instructions on the help page. Your yexy above is much more succinct and much easier to understand so thank you. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:45, 7 October 2020 (EDT)
 
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::You're welcome :) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:29, 7 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== Utopia ==
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Happy New Year! Would you mind if I added some images to this record? https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514360 —[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] ([[User talk:Rosab618|talk]]) 15:06, 30 December 2023 (EST)
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: Not at all and a happy new year to you too. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 16:27, 30 December 2023 (EST)
  
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I've done a little bit of cleanup of More's Utopia trying to sort out translators.  I noticed that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?522074 your copy] of the Penguin edition has the author as "Thomas More" on the cover.  I have a later printing with "Thomas More" on the title page as well.  I just wanted to check to see if perhaps your copy should be under [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2783905 this title] instead of the "Sir Thomas More" title it is currently under.  The other title also notes the translator. You also may want to add the Penguin Classics publication series. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 19:29, 8 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Harry Harrison / West of Eden ==
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:Alright thanks for the flag. I've removed the verification from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?522074 this copy] and cloned [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2783905 this title] and added notes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:03, 9 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== Wyndham's Sleepers of Mars ==
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I am editing an PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?180877 West of Eden] and will add month: 1985-07-00 and state source: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?567901 Galactic Central Bibliography] [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:23, 3 January 2024 (EST)
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: Carry on but since those are minor edits you don't really need to inform me. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 14:32, 3 January 2024 (EST)
  
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I'm going to change the author credit to your verified publication ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181365 Sleepers of Mars]'' from "John Wyndham" to "John Beynon Harris".  [[Template:AllFields:Alternate Names|this help section]], indicates that these "writing as" credits should be entered as the original name.  I suspect that this publication was entered before that policy was implemented.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 08:34, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
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== The Martian Chronicles ==
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: Ok I checked the following Coronet editions: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351066 Wanders of Time] - states on title page "John Wyndham writing as John Beynon Harris" <li>[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?351068 Stowaway to Mars] - states on title page "John Wyndham writing as John Beynon"<li>[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?181365 Sleepers of Mars] - states on title page "John Wyndham writing as John Beynon Harris" - This is NOT noted on Cover and Spine. Note is incorrect.<li>[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?525504 The Secret People] - states on title page "John Wyndham writing as John Beynon"<li>[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12785 Exiles on Asperus] - states on title page "John Wyndham writing as John Beynon"<li>Hope that helps. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:06, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
 
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::Thanks for that.  It looks like all of these need some more work.  I'll go ahead and start cleaning them up.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 10:45, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
 
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:::You're welcome Ron. Happy editing. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:04, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== The Trigan Empire ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?353769
  
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hiya mate Ive got this book and i'm asking the pvs about a couple of issues. the first one is just that 2 of the contents are out of order ie "The old ones" and "the martian" theyre on the same page but old ones should come first. The second one relates to the fact that the stories are all prefixed by a date in the contents and before the story itself. In this book there is no colon or hyphen and all the contents entries leave out the date except the last one which uses the variant with the date. for consistency i'd like to swap it out for the variant without the date. cheers from Gaz
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: Proceed. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 10:38, 21 January 2024 (EST)
  
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Can you confirm that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?252950 this] is the collection of the comics? If so, it is technically not eligible so I will be proposing it to be deleted -- but wanted to make sure I am not missing something (and yes, I looked at the note but as you have the book - a check never harms). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:18, 27 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Robert (A.) Heinlein / The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress ==
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:Yes. It was obviously a volume that fell through the net. You may also want to review [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?264117 this] publication as well since it's a photographic reprimt of comic strips. The only thing to bear in mind (not noted on the entry) is that it has a foreword by Kit Pedler (an above threshold author) and 5 pages of introductory material "© James Slattery 1979" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:36, 28 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== In His Own Image ==
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?357544 The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress]. In my copy, the author's name is stated as "Robert Heinlein" on the title page even though it's "Robert A. Heinlein" on cover and spine. So I propose to change the author's name and add a corresponding pub note. Is your copy the same? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:34, 21 January 2024 (EST)
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:Mine is the same. Proceed. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:21, 22 January 2024 (EST)
  
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Please see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4817773 this submission] that impacts one of your verified pubs. Would you please double check the date in the publication? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:44, 31 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Sphere Cities of Wonder ==
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:Date checked. 1979 is correct. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:10, 31 October 2020 (EDT)
 
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::Change approved. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:23, 31 October 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== Fuzzy Sapiens ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5872641; If your copy has readable prices on the back you can erase my note after approval and enter them all; also, pre-decimal price, if there is one, should be added to price field because it's a 1970 book before the switch to decimal prices. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:10, 26 January 2024 (EST)
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:Right prices on back cover are thus: Australia 1.00c; New Zealand 85c; UK 6/- (30p); South Africa 75c; East Africa 7/25. Hope that helps. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 15:02, 26 January 2024 (EST)
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::OK, thanks, I cancelled old edit and made new edit; https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5872984. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 16:57, 26 January 2024 (EST)
  
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Hi, cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?500372 this] is Wayne Anderson, see [https://bookpalace.com/acatalog/info_AndersonFuz.html bookpalace.com]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 19:57, 31 October 2020 (EDT)
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== Star Maker ==
  
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== The Stainless Steel Rat ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269259
  
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?313532<p>
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hello there i'm asking the active pvs to have a quick shufti at this one re the pages field.  In my copy the last numbered page is 264 which is the lsat page of the note on magnitude essay.  After that theres the 3 pages of time scale diagrams followed by a load of magnum adverts so i'm thinking it should be 264+[3]?  That time scale diagram sequence has been entered as contents for the 2003 sf masterworks edition so it could be imported here as well if you think its worth it. cheers from Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 19:57, 7 February 2024 (EST)
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:Mine is the same. You could add a note about the additional pages after the diagrams having adverts. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 23:55, 7 February 2024 (EST)
  
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Price is $1.95, right? Stated at the back cover of the book. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 10:16, 7 November 2020 (EST)
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== The Year's Best SF 1972 ==
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:I checked and my copy isn't that printing anyway so removed the verification. So you're the only verfiier for that edition. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:43, 7 November 2020 (EST)
 
  
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::OK. I'll add it then. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 02:08, 15 December 2020 (EST)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?286137
  
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== The Art of NASA: The Illustrations that Sold the Missions ==
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hiya mate, just to let you know that i'm going to import the 4 cartoons on p87-90 that are already entered in the other editions of this title.  cheers from Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 17:47, 15 February 2024 (EST)
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:Ive just noticed the map on p45 in the first sphere edition so that's gone for import as well, Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 18:00, 15 February 2024 (EST)
  
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So... is this book about art illustrating fiction or is the book about NASA and space travel? From what I can see online, it seems like the latter ("History of NASA in pictures") and in this case it won't eligible for addition I am afraid... If these pictures are illustrating fiction or used as fiction covers, that changes things. Let me know :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:20, 12 November 2020 (EST)
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== Ultima Thule ==
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:It's a book of mostly conceptual illustrations giving a general idea of what things might look like in terns of various NASA missions from the earliest days and potential future missions such as habitat structures on other planets (Moon, Mars), Bernal and O'Neill and other tube-like or ring-like structures. These later images are almost certainly "fictional" in that regards. Whether they illustrate fiction or are used for fictional covers I know not. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:44, 12 November 2020 (EST)
 
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:: Then it won't be eligible. Our non-fiction eligibility rules (and this book is non-fiction -- we count all art books as nonfiction) is based on the ability to tie the book to speculative fiction (except for above threshold authors)... As the author is not above threshold and the book cannot be plausibly tied to speculative fiction, it is out I am afraid. :( [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:49, 12 November 2020 (EST)
 
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:::Fair enough. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:29, 12 November 2020 (EST)
 
  
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== The Dark Crystal Bestiary ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?367484; Fixed story's # to 69. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 12:40, 26 February 2024 (EST)
  
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I accepted {{P|810101|The Dark Crystal Bestiary}}, but changed the ISBN from 987.. to 978... as 987 is not valid. If this wasn't a data entry typo and the pub uses 987, please add a publication note. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:51, 26 November 2020 (EST)
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== Robert A. Heinlein ==
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:It was indeed a typo. I'll be uploading cover art shortly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:06, 26 November 2020 (EST)
 
  
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== Merchants of Venus ==
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Please see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5790838 this edit] I am holding that impacts your verified pub. The Internet Archive link being added shows a pub with "Paul Harris Publishing" on the title page, but "Taplinger Publishing Company" on the dust jacket. Does that match your version? There are other Internet Archive versions ([https://archive.org/details/robertaheinlein0000unse_a5x2], [https://archive.org/details/robertaheinlein0000unse]) which have the same cover, but have Taplinger also on the title page. What does your jacket say? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:07, 2 March 2024 (EST)
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:My copy is entirely Paul Harris Publishing. Logo on dustwrapper spine and Paul Harris Publishing on title page. So not a Taplinger edition. Hope that helps. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 16:17, 2 March 2024 (EST)
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::Edit has been rejected. I'm not sure if there was some weird edition that had a Paul Harris tile page with a Taplinger dust jacket or if someone just inadvertently swapped covers on the two editions. Thanks for checking. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 15:47, 7 March 2024 (EST)
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:::My guess would be that the submitter has an edition that had a Taplinger dustwrapper put onto a Paul Harris edition. I see a lot of books sold via ABE without dustwrappers and then there are lists for dustwrappers only. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 15:52, 7 March 2024 (EST)
  
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I placed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/pv_new.cgi?4846262 your submission] on hold. Will you verify the spelling of "Fredrick"? His name is normally spelled [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?820 Frederik]. Thanks! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:09, 2 December 2020 (EST)
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== Gilgamesh the King ==
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:Ferderik. I made a typo. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:26, 2 December 2020 (EST)
 
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::Just making sure. Is it "Ferderik" or "Frederik"? Your reply might have a typo, too. (^_^) ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 17:30, 2 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:::Yes. Less haste more speed (or something like that). Frederik it is. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:38, 3 December 2020 (EST)
 
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::::It's been updated. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:29, 3 December 2020 (EST)
 
  
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== Frost and Fire ==
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I'm holding [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5889226 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. Does your edition have the separate afterword? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:22, 9 March 2024 (EST)
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: Yes indeed it does. Starts on p.298. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 15:01, 9 March 2024 (EST)
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::I approved the edit. You may wish to add the page number for the novel start. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:39, 9 March 2024 (EST)
  
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Hello, I have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/pv_new.cgi?4846263 your submission] on hold, as I would like to ask if you could provide me with the author of the novel this is an adaptation of? Thank you! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 16:09, 7 December 2020 (EST)
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== Horror: 100 Best Books ==
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:That information was provided in the author field of the submission. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:40, 8 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:: Ah, then I'm afraid this submission is not eligible as we do not record graphic novels of authors that are below the threshold and have not published non-graphical-speculative fiction. I have rejected your submission. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 12:01, 8 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:::Same publication as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?811612 this] so why reject ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:10, 8 December 2020 (EST)
 
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::::Ah well, basically I reverted my earlier rejection of your submission, as I realized that this is an adaptation of works by Ray Bradbury, so eligible after all. I've corrected a typo, and added clarifying note to the pub. Is it OK like this now? Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 12:14, 8 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:::::It's fine (typos were probably my error). I should have added a note about it being an adaption of a Ray Bradbury story. The other one that maybe needs looking at is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1000566] which should really have Harlan Ellsion's name as author added to the record. Sorry if I came across somewhat "brusque" --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:19, 8 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:::::: Yep, does need Harlan as co-author. And no worries, I didn't take it badly :) Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 13:02, 8 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:::::::I have to pause occassionally and remember that you are human as well (feelings/emotions). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:32, 8 December 2020 (EST)
 
  
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== Frank Kelly Freas: As He Sees It ==
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Hi. There may be an error in the contents of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514502 publication] you've PV'd. Could you check & chime in [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Faustus#Lort_of_the_Flies_review here] with what you've got in your copy? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 14:25, 25 March 2024 (EDT)
  
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I've added interior art contents to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14548+f this] art book. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 17:07, 10 December 2020 (EST)
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== The Science Fiction Source Book ==
  
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== The Jewel in the Skull by James Cawthorn ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513492
  
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I'd enter the interview as an interview, not as an essay. Does it have a title on page [74]?.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 11:25, 16 December 2020 (EST)
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hiya mate, could you have a look at this one, ive just done a pv for it and the contents info doesnt tally with my book.  "A Brief History" by Aldiss on p10 is missing. "SF Criticism" is on p294. "Criticism Checklist" is on p297. If yours is the same then i'll make the changes. cheers - Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 08:13, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
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:Not as such. It's merely "James Cawthorn" with below that "interviewed by David Britton". There was no dropdown option for Interview. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:14, 16 December 2020 (EST)
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:The Aldiss item is indeed on p.10 and the other two items are the same as my copy. Procede with your changes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 12:01, 2 April 2024 (EDT)
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:: Look lower on the "Publication Edit" page - interviews and reviews have their own sections (because they require a second author to be added specifically. Unfortunately that also means that you cannot convert - you need to add the interview and remove the essay :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:17, 16 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:::Ok thanks. I'll do that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:29, 16 December 2020 (EST)
 
  
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== The Sci-Fi & Fantasy Art of Patrick J. Jones ==
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== Shores of Death ==
  
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As far as I can tell, {{P|808603|this}} and {{P|599591|this}} are duplicate pubs where you have included the art, but not the essays and Willem H. has included the essays, but not the art. It seems like these should be combined and one deleted? I will point Willem H. to this conversation. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:49, 20 December 2020 (EST)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?147341; I added Archive.org link in a PENDING edit. A couple of prices on back are covered by a sticker so if you'd like you can enter prices from your copy in notes; also, since it's a 1970 UK book, per ISFDB pre-decimal rules, the price should be 5/- and not £0.25. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 15:36, 3 April 2024 (EDT)
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:Yes. Possibly Willem H added his edition after I did. I distinctly recall adding the publication and it's contents as it was not on ISFDB until I got hold of a copy. Seems logical to combine the two entires. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:29, 21 December 2020 (EST)
 
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::I verified the existing edition in 2018 (entered by Markwood in 2016). Perhaps you missed it? I now imported the interiorart titles in my edition (thanks for all the work!). I.m.h.o. it would be better to delete your pub, and move your verification (and any note you think is needed). I can't check my copy at the moment (It's in one of 165 boxes, but which???) --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:07, 23 December 2020 (EST)
 
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:::I'll do that. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:35, 24 December 2020 (EST)
 
  
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== Dangerous Visions 2 ==
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== Burroughs / (A) Princess of Mars ==
  
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Hi, [https://70sscifiart.tumblr.com/post/637384514107228160/joe-petagnos-1974-cover-art-for-dangerous-visions this scan] of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?114141 this edition] shows (enough of) the signature PETAGNO vertically in the lower left, so cover artist is Joe Petagno, as expected. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:34, 21 December 2020 (EST)
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?107681 A Princess of Mars] and propose to:
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:I was pretty sure the covers of those three editions were all by Petagno being very similar in style. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:54, 22 December 2020 (EST)
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<br>1) Change title to "Princess of Mars" as per title page and do the varianting
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<br>2) Create coverart record "Princess of Mars" by Bruce Pennington (already credited in notes) and variant it to the existing coverart record [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1096641 "A Princess of Mars"] by Bruce Pennington
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<br>3) Change the note "Nine digit ISBN" to "ISBN derived from 9 digit SBN". The current note gives the impression that the book is stating an invalid ISBN
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<br>4) Add a note that the Foreword on page 5 is "in universe" fiction and forms part of the novel (and thus should not appear in the Contents).
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<br>5) Add other minor pub notes; some minor corrections of typos
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<br>Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:43, 9 April 2024 (EDT)
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: No problems. Procede. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:04, 10 April 2024 (EDT)
  
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== Harry Harrison 'War With the Robots' priced at 50 cents? ==
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== Best SF of the Year 15 ==
  
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Hi. You're the only current verifier of http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?53765. The picture for this listing shows 40-cent price. Is there actually a later printing with 50-cent price, or is that an error? If real, is there anything on the copyright page to indicate it's a later printing ... or maybe a Canadian edition? Thanks for clearing this up. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 10:31, 8 January 2021 (EST)
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209497
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:I checked my copy. It was a verification error. My copy is the 40 cent Sep 1962 first printing thus I've rverified the correct edition. Scott Latham is the only verifier of the 50c version but he's no longer active. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:40, 8 January 2021 (EST)
 
  
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== Halcyon Drift ==
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hiya mate youre the only other permanent pv for this one so i'm checking to see if you mind if i change a couple of the contents to different variants that are already on the db..  The "Bluff" story is down as by eric g. iverson but in the book its by Turtledove under his own name.  the Benford storyis down as "Space-Time" when it should be "Space/Time". cheers from Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 22:47, 10 April 2024 (EDT)
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:Matches my copy. Please procede. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 01:25, 11 April 2024 (EDT)
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Do you happen to be able to pull [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?124491 this book]? It is a 1976 one but the notes read "This edition published 1977 by Pan Books Ltd". Is that our typo or is this what the page says (I have an editor with a book that says 1976 on the page so trying to find out if we have two different editions or just the one and a DB typo. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:41, 16 January 2021 (EST)
 
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:Definately a typo. Copyright page categorically states "This edition published 1976 by Pan Books Ltd." --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 18:57, 16 January 2021 (EST)
 
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:: Awesome - I will advise the new editor so he can verify that one instead of cloning :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:35, 16 January 2021 (EST)
 
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:::Funny how now the UK is in lockdown I find sleep a bit tricky - it's half past midnight - gave me something to do. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:39, 16 January 2021 (EST)
 
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:::: Been there, done that - the first weeks of the lockdown here in the States back in March when I moved from going to an office (or on a plane to get to a customer site) every day to working from home, my sleep patterns were all out of whack... So were the patterns of everyone else I think so our multi-national conversations were in weird times. We are technically not in a lockdown here but things are away from normal so yeah... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:45, 16 January 2021 (EST)
 
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== The Blue World ==
 
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?36215 this] is of course Gino D'Achille, his signature can be seen on the original art as shown on the backcover of [https://www.ebay.it/itm/RUSS-COCHRANS-COMIC-ART-AUCTION-81-GINO-DACHILLE-EC-COMICS-PICTO-FICTION/363005860418 Russ Cochran's Comic Art Auction #81] (lower left corner, signature GA). [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 17:02, 22 January 2021 (EST)
 
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: Or better, look [https://www.ginodachille.com/collections/sci-fi-fantasy/products/the-blue-world here]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:08, 22 January 2021 (EST)
 
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== The Romulan Way  ==
 
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I'm holding your submission updating ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4898772 The Romulan Way]''.  I don't think you actually want to update this publication record which is for the first printing.  Rather if you clone the record, you'll leave the record for the first printing intact while creating a new record for your second printing.  Please let me know if you have questions. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 09:43, 2 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:The thing is that I'd verified it previously - maybe I hadn't actually checked. Whatever I did check the copy I had to hand which was for a 2nd printing. Either way the copy is no longer available. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:02, 2 February 2021 (EST)
 
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::That's all fine.  However, the existing record has a Locus1 and a Worldcat verification by an inactive editor.  Both those verifications refer to the first printing.  By making the existing record into the second printing, we lose any record of the first printing and those verifications would be incorrect.  I recommend that you clone the existing publication and verify (transient is fine) the newly created record.  You can also remove your verification from the first printing record.  That way well keep records of both printings.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 17:44, 2 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::On it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 23:50, 2 February 2021 (EST)
 
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Approved [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?821417 this one] but French capitalization and punctuation is a bit different than English (spaces on both sides of ":" for example and using sentence case and not title case for titles and subtitles) and we follow language conventions when known (and yes... we do need to finish the page about these). I also added the BNF number while I was there :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 06:29, 3 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:Alrighty, thanks. Well I only bought it for the robot art since I can't read French. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:30, 3 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:: Sounds reasonable :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 10:40, 3 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::Haha yes. I belong to a Facebook group where members have been posting their sco-fi art portfolio collections [Shusei Nagaoka - 長岡秀星の世界 Part 2 is not cheap, nor is 迷宮のアンドローラ; and Shigeru Komatsuzaki who did art for model kit boxes mostly Thunderbirds - his "Mechanic Fantasy The World of Shigeru Komatsuzaki" is £100] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:48, 3 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::: Artbooks are not my thing but I am into nice editions of SF (written) - some of these books are... expensive and I refuse to answer just how many versions of Dune or Foundation can one person have... ;) I need to add some of them here (and/or verify) but I keep getting distracted). At least I am not buying editions in other languages... too often (I may have a few Alice in Wonderland in exotic languages...). So yeah... as I said - absolutely reasonable. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 11:13, 3 February 2021 (EST)
 
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==  Spectrum III  ==
 
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Can you pull out [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?213357 Spectrum III] and check the title page - I have an editor who challenges the statement "'3' on cover/spine, 'III' on title page" and claims it is "3" on the title page as well. If this is the case, we also will need renames and so on... so any chance you can check what is in your book? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:48, 4 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:The editor in question is mistaken. Yes it is "3" on the cover and spine but definately "III" on title page. The same is tru (as stated in the notes) for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?114231 this] edition as well. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:13, 4 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:: My guess is that he is mistaking "title page" and "cover" - that is why I came asking. Thanks for checking! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:24, 4 February 2021 (EST)
 
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== The covers problem ==
 
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The two covers are untangled - you may need to add new images somewhere (I am not sure I left the correct ones in place - sorry, it is a bit late here...) but now when you press upload on either, it will only upload into that one and not for both. It was a tag mixup - a reused cover instead of uploading a new one into one of the book. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:13, 6 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:Thanks Annie. I'll upload the photo of the unbosed slipcase edition to that record and scan the dustwrappr of my other very distressed copy. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:23, 6 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:: One question while I am here: You have the OCLC [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?822253 here] but the record looks like the one for the first printing from 1989 and not this second printing? It is a joined record for both the trade and limited but I think it should be taken off the second printing... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:48, 6 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::That OCLC record doesn't distinguish between the two states (trade / limited). The only entry for a 1st edition UM is [https://www.worldcat.org/title/harlan-ellisons-watching/oclc/925018620?referer=di&ht=edition this]. All merely giver a 1989 date and all have "Los Angeles, Calif" for UM except for [https://www.worldcat.org/title/harlan-ellisons-watching/oclc/909360941?referer=di&ht=edition this] which has "Novato ; Lancaster". I don't delve into External IDs as they don't really interest me enough. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:17, 6 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::: Yes. It belongs to both the trade and the limited editions - no argument about that - it even carries both ISBNs. :) My question was about the reprint :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 08:33, 8 February 2021 (EST)
 
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== Armada Monster Books ==
 
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?515040 1]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46655 2] & [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40164 4] were verified by you. The ISFDB titles don't match what's on the book covers. Are they different on the title pages? --[[User:Username|Username]] 16:23, 7 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:Yes. As clearly stated so in the notes for all three of those editions. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 03:17, 8 February 2021 (EST)
 
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... since some years aren't indexed as part of a title (and shouldn't be put into the pub. series field). [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:47, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:And why is that especially when that series is printed on the title page ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 03:51, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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::Well, it doesn't matter where it's printed: the title page may also print other information: publisher, location of publisher, symbols, publication series etc. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:56, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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::Some years back we had a major discussion on that topic about "The Lord of the Rings": some editions mention the title series on the title page of the respective novel (for example [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1609 The Two Towers]), while others don't. The result was to unify the title indexing as mentioned above. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 04:14, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::That would mean that some books in a sequence (like the Road to Science Fiction for example) wouldn't immediately appear to be included as part of the series. In order to find that information out you'd have to go looking for it as opposed to it being obvious. Besides which having edits rejected without explanation is really unhelpful. And if the title page is the where one should take information from (such as the title) why are such edits rejected (especially without explanation) ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:25, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::: I don't see anything rejected, just corrected. And the points you mention were part of the initial discussion, as I remember. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 08:36, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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::::: I wasn't part of that discussion or aware of it. My point about not being informed - whatever the reason - still stands. It would be helpful in future to be notfied about such things. I am not a mind reader and users may be unaware such discussions have occurred previously (they may well be buried in the archive somewhere). Why not direct them to such discussions instead of leaving a crytic message ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:08, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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:::::: Sorry! Since you've been around for more than five years it didn't occur to me that you might not know of it. How did you manage to get around this? ;-) [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 10:13, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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::::::: When you say "get around this" I assume you mean the discussion to which you made reference to. The answer is simple: By being unaware of the existance of such a discussion. When I joioned I dodn't immediately start verifying my collection. I was merely using the site to find unatribiuted book cover artists (those whom I recognised or were published in art portfolios like Cowley's pictoral volumes). I didn't start to verify my collection or make edits to the database until much later. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:29, 17 February 2021 (EST)
 
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== Giuseppe vs Guiseppe ==
 
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Hi, is it right that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?290910  L'illustrazione di Fantascienza e Fantasy in Italia — Italian SF & Fantasy Art] knows both two Giuseppe's and two Guiseppe's?--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 08:39, 20 February 2021 (EST)
 
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::Thanks!--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 07:19, 21 February 2021 (EST)
 
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== Savage Hearts The Clyde Caldwell Sketchbook Volume 2 ==
 
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A quick FYI -- checking your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513498 ''Savage Hearts The Clyde Caldwell Sketchbook Volume 2''], I see that the author of the foreword is listed as "Holly Lislie". However, Amazon's Look Inside shows that her last name is spelled "Lisle", which matches our primary record for {{A|Holly Lisle}}. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 11:01, 9 March 2021 (EST)
 
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::Entirely my fault for mistyping her name. I've edited the record. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:38, 9 March 2021 (EST)
 
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::: Approved, thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 12:33, 9 March 2021 (EST)
 
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== Hothouse ==
 
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Your note says "No ISBN, number 11003 printed sideways on back cover." but you added a Catalog number of 11002 [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?407984 here]. I suspect one of those is a typo. Can you please correct whichever is wrong? If both are correct, a note explaining them will be very very helpful. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:23, 12 March 2021 (EST)
 
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== The Penguin Encyclopedia of Horror and the Supernatural ==
 
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Just added some notes to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?275516 this]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 07:58, 12 March 2021 (EST)
 
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== The Broken Sword ==
 
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4935100 this submersion]. Based on the other prices, I question whether you have the same version as you are editing and whether instead there was a second 1977 reprinting. The current other prices do not match the {{P|119281|first edition}} and the edit history shows there added by Bluesman (so not a carryover from an external source). Since every price differs, this would not a typo situation either. Thoughts? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:14, 14 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:Definately not a 2nd 1977 reprint. The cover image for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119281 this] edition] is the one for the edition I have and the other prices on the back are as I entered them from those printed on the back cover. Hope that makes things clear. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:41, 14 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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::How do you know the prices on Hauck & Bluesman version are not different than yours? What is the likelihood someone would have mistyped all four prices? I see you uploaded a new cover image. The previous version did not include the back cover so we cannot compare. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:21, 14 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::You miss the point. You are looking at record with the WRONG image attached to it. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?119281 this] edition has the cover for a LATER edition - as you have noted all the prices displayed on the rear are too high for record entry. Why am I having to explain this again when I have already explained it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:52, 15 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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::::There are currently two versions of this ISBN in the database:
 
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::::#{{P|119281|1973 first edition}} with other prices of "UK 35p, Australia 1.10c, New Zealand 1.10c"
 
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::::#{{P|417691|1977 reprinting}} with other prices of "$1.90 in Australia, $2.15 in NZ, 71½p in Rep of Ireland, 70c in Malta"
 
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::::Those two sets of prices are different which means the reprinting did not mistakenly clone the first edition. Those prices were specifically entered for the current 1977 record. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4935100 Your submission] is editing the second record and changing the prices to "A$2.95; NZ$2.95; Eire 93½p; Malta 85c". That is a third set of prices; all of which are higher than the current 1977 record's versions. If it had been one or two numbers, it could have been a typo. But when ''all of them'' are different, it makes it hard to believe you have the same version as Hauck and Bluesman. As for covers, I was talking about [[:Image:THBRKNSWRB1977.jpg|this one]] for the second edition. Hauk's original image (which can still be accessed by clicking the date & time next to his name) is only the front cover. The current version is one you uploaded. Therefore, the images don't help resolve the issue. Hopefully now the question is clear and you can address the disparity in prices on the second printing. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:18, 15 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::::I can only go with the book I have in hand. "Reprinted 1977" That is the ONLY 1977 date on the copyright page. Other prices are as printed on rear cover. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 04:38, 16 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::::: I am looking at the cover you uploaded and there seems to be a blob/sticker just where the UK price is. Can you see clearly under it on the book itself? Is it possible that it says £0.85 and not £0.65? See [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Anniemod#Second_Opinion my page] for the reason to ask if you want - this whole situation feels like a single printing with two separate covers (to allow for price increase) but having £0.65 is a bit inconsistent with the rest of the prices on the line so double checking? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:45, 18 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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::::::: Not a sticker. That 'blob' is blue ballpoint pen where someone other than me has totally obliterated the price - it is sadly unreadable. Also please note that I have stated THREE times now that the cover image attached to record 119281 is the wrong image. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 03:56, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::::::: The one with the obliterated UK price is the correct one for your second printing, correct? We can deal with the first printing  and its cover as well (I will look in the morning) but I stopped by to ask about the second printing  for now - we are trying to solve the problem of its double prices first. Too bad the UK price is not visible :(Thanks for checking.  [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 04:42, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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(Unindent). I believe I know what has happened. The other prices are actually those from record 262485. The other prices as printed are: Australia £2.95; New Zealand $2,95; Eire 93½p; Malta 85c. Copyright page has "First published....1973 / Reprinted 1977" - those are the only two dates printed there. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:18, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?262485 record 262485]. Having exactly the same prices does not necessarily mean that they are wrong in one of the books- two books published at the same time CAN have exactly the same price. And it is not a rote copy paste (see how they look in the two books):
 
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: Someone typed these twice. It was wrong transfer, the line would be identical I think. And I really do not think that these higher prices in your book are consistent with a £0.65 price. 93 1/2p in Eire is always on a £0.85 UK price. See [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=pub_note&O_1=contains&TERM_1=93+1%2F2&C=AND&USE_2=pub_title&O_2=exact&TERM_2=&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication this search] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=pub_note&O_1=contains&TERM_1=93%BD&C=AND&USE_2=pub_title&O_2=exact&TERM_2=&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication this one]. On the other hand all the 71 and a half are 0.65: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=pub_note&O_1=contains&TERM_1=71%BD&C=AND&USE_2=pub_title&O_2=exact&TERM_2=&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/adv_search_results.cgi?USE_1=pub_note&O_1=contains&TERM_1=71+1%2F2&C=AND&USE_2=pub_title&O_2=exact&TERM_2=&USE_3=pub_title&O_3=exact&TERM_3=&USE_4=pub_title&O_4=exact&TERM_4=&USE_5=pub_title&O_5=exact&TERM_5=&USE_6=pub_title&O_6=exact&TERM_6=&ORDERBY=pub_title&ACTION=query&START=0&TYPE=Publication thus one]. If your update is approved, this book will be the ONLY one with 93 1/2p in Eire and £0.65 in UK. Which makes no sense. So your book seems to be a £0.85 one - in which case unless we somehow believe that all prices including the UK one up in the field were mistaken and both verifiers missed it, we really have two covers on this printing - one at 0.65 and one at 0.85. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:05, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:: Another thing to consider is that a later printing may not have updated the "First published....1973 / Reprinted 1977" line. It's not very common, but it happens. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 19:14, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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::: Good point. Which also leads to not changing what we have but instead cloning for the new prices as it is not the same book as the one we have... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:25, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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I have cloned the first 1977 edition and created a {{P|828636|second 1977 edition}} using the information from Mavmaramis' edit to the first one. I then rejected Mavmaramis' edit. I also moved over Mavmaramis' cover to the second one and restored Hauck's cover to the first one. I added a note to each about the differences between the two. If anyone has better wording, please adjust. Mavmaramis, please move your verification from the first one to the second one. Thanks for bearing with us through this process. Annie & Ahasuerus, thanks for your help. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 07:59, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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::: That does sound like a fairly sensible solution. There was obviously some confusion / mixup somewhere along the line with data entry - where or when that was is unknown. Just a shame that certain booksellers decided in their infinite wisdom to obliterate the UK price on the back cover. I have a number of such expamples aquired from various second hand sources. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 08:13, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::: Just added a note on the UK price and where it is coming from - hopefully someone else will have that exact copy so we can find the UK price one day. As always, feel free to rewrite/change if needed. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:44, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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== The Moment of Eclipse ==
 
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?4935102 this submission]: You already have a verified 1979 version of this ISBN {{P|513142|here}}. That entry is from 2015 and is lacking details. Are you sure your new one is not a duplicate? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:19, 14 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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:Ahh ok. I should have gone down the list as opposed to looking at the cover images. You can merge the two since they are indeed the same edition. My fault entirely. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:44, 14 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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::It is not possible to merge publications. I have accepted your new edit since it had notes and deleted the old one without. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:24, 14 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Three Hearts and Three Lions ==
 
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Hi, about [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/pv_update.cgi?4935239 Three Hearts and Three Lions] Did you have any contact with [[User:Holmesd|Holmesd]] about the 74p vs 71½p? You each might have a different printing.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 19:52, 14 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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::The 74p was, in my opinion, an error on the part of whoever entered the data. They didn't look closely enough to see it was 71½ not 74. 71½p is the price that is printed. I know, I looked. It was the only correction I had to make to the record. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:57, 15 March 2021 (EDT)
 
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== The Goblins of Labyrinth ==
 
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Does [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297861 this book] have The at the start of the title on its title page? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:35, 13 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:Yes it does. Assume the cover image is that of the hardback edition. I've uploaded an image scanned from my Henry Holt trade paperback edition.--[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:43, 14 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:: Thanks! Someone used the same path on both so I had to rescue the old cover to put it on the harcover (in case you wonder what's with all the reverts in the image now). Back to normal. You may need to reload a few times to get the covers where the belong (because of how the caching of these images work)... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:33, 14 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::All looks fine for me now. Correct cover that I uploaded is showing for the tp Henry Holt edition. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:44, 14 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::: Yep - I had to pull it out to find the HC one and then restored it back. Which causes a bit of a flux for a bit. Thanks again! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:53, 14 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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== What Is Dungeons and Dragons? ==
 
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Would you happen to still have access to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514283 this book] or any memories about its authors. The cover has "John Butterfield, Philip Parker, David Honigmann" and the title page on archive.org seems to agree. As you verified, I would rather not change it without checking with you in case we have different copies. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:47, 16 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:That was definately the copy I had. Whether the title page had all three authors I can't say. At some point at the beginning of this year I had a clear out of a large quantity books - duplicates, ones without dustwrappers and other tangental non fiction material. I changed the verification of all of those listed on ISFDB from "perminent" to "transient" and this was one such item which I no longer have. Sorry. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:09, 17 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:: I had been looking at it some more. It seems to be game-related and not really fiction related... Would you mind terribly if I just delete the whole thing? It is not eligible (unless I am missing something). And [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Username#What_Is_Dungeons_and_Dragons.3F this note] kinda believes the same. What do you think? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:47, 22 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::Hello Annie. Yes it is indeed a sort-of 'primer' like a 'dummies guide' to the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game. Not, I suspect, eligable so no issues if you delete it. You may want to look into [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?943539 this] publication as well which was another that didn't survive my 2021 lockdown book cull. It is also extremely tangental although there is a listing for two editions by different publishers I was (am) the only verifier for the Arms and Armour Press 1981 edition. You may also want to review [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?290528 this] - there are two variants of the same title (one with an '&' and one without) - title page of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2842673 my copy] definately has '&'. It does contain artwork of arists listed on ISFDB - Keith Parkinson, Larry Elmore &c. At what point does fantasy roleplaying material become "speculative fiction". These [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5941 four] atlas type publications for example.
 
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Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:34, 20 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:OF not OG - an obvious typo. Interior art content with no page numbers - I did that deliberately because there is more than one image per story hence why it was entered the way it was - it was easier for me to copy paste titles. Hope that answers your questions. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:33, 20 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::Yes. There are lots of entries on ISFDB that are similar eg, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?578513 this]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 07:29, 21 April 2021 (EDT)
 
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When adding information from secondary sources, please put the source in the pub notes and not the moderator notes. That way it is easily available for everyone to see. I have updated the pub notes for the two Stardrift records to show your source for the cover artist credit. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:31, 13 May 2021 (EDT)
 
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:I would have done so but since using HTML to link to an external source is problematic even if i follow the instructions to the letter it still doesn't dipslay correctly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 02:34, 14 May 2021 (EDT)
 
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:Thanks. Same applie to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?319074 this] publication which is identical in size. I've gone ahead and made the edit to that record. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:50, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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Hi, I see you are expanding the notes of many Unicorn / Unwin Paperbacks editions with the remark "First Unwin Paperbacks edition, in its Unicorn fiction/fantasy series". If I read this correctly, the publisher name as we use it is incorrect and there is missing info in the publication series field. Furthermore a proposed 'Unicorn fiction/fantasy series' could be expanded beyond publisher Unwin Paperbacks. E.g. publishers Unwin, and Unicorn Bookshop. What do you think?--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 18:03, 15 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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: [https://www.sfandfantasy.co.uk/php/series-list.php?subsection=8 I seem not to be alone in seeing this as a publication series], and like this page I think 'Unicorn fiction/fantasy series' can be seen as 'Unicorn fantasy fiction series' in reality.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 18:13, 15 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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::: Oke, so we can limit the publication series to those publications that are published by Unwin (under whatever imprint) and share a common 'Unicorn' logo. I also agree that nothing in these books states that Unicorn publishes the books, the copyright page clearly just has Unwin Paperbacks as publisher.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 14:40, 16 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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::::: Whatever you two decide to do, please add notes to the Pub series page explaining all this :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:21, 17 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::::: I'm leaving it up to Dirk to make the decision as to what changes should/ought/need to me made. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:34, 17 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5009253 this submission]: I'd wager it had "Erroneously stated as first published by Unwin Paperbacks 1985" because ''The Walls of Air'' was first published in 1983 by Dell Ray. I assume the publisher meant "this edition first published". I updated the wording to show it was a quote from the copyright page to reduce future confusion. I also restored the quoted text from the back cover the prior editor had. Some editors prefer more detail & while it is not required to go to that level, we shouldn't remove it when it is present. Let me know if I misunderstood anything. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:58, 19 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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: That's fine. Although why restore the quote when my edit stated the same thing - so really what's the difference between "Cover artist credited on rear cover" and "Cover illustration <i>artists name</i> on back cover" - they say exactly the same thing. As far as publication information goes I write what's printed on the copyright page anyway so it does seem to me, at least, somewhat redundant to state "on copyright page" unless there's a specific reason for doing so in order to clarify something that would otherwise be "vague" - just an IMHO and nothing personal (and "grumbles"). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:36, 19 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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::''"Cover Illustration David O’Connor"'' is (or should be since it's in quotes) a quote of what is on the back cover. ''Cover artist credited on rear cover'' is a summary. The first gives how the artwork is credited, the second does not. I would typically just give the summary, but as I said, other editors like to be more specific. A book cover with "Cover illustration by NAME" is unambiguously crediting the artist. A cover with "Cover by NAME" could be crediting the artist or the designer. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 15:57, 19 June 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Robot Book ==
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514832; I added cover images to the first 2 editions of this book, which are the same except for Penguin logo, and noticed all, including yours, say "PREDICTION", not "PREDICTIONS". If your copy has the singular title, the record should be fixed to reflect that. --[[User:Username|Username]] 14:07, 2 July 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Jean West Penna's ''Strange Territory'' ==
 
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A quick question about your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?289988 ''Strange Territory'']. The date field says "1984-00-00", but the Note field says "Published in Australia 1983 by Walrus Books". Would you happen to know what's causing the discrepancy? I have found [https://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/C432035 an excerpt] from a 1984-03-24 review in ''Canberra Times'', so the book was likely published either in late 1983 or (if delayed) early 1984. OCLC [https://www.worldcat.org/title/strange-territory/oclc/1117837215&referer=brief_results says "1983"]. TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 15:26, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
 
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== ''Science Fiction Illustrations'' ==
 
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A quick question about your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?374286 ''Science Fiction Illustrations'']: is "Which One Di I Open First?" spelled that way? Or is "Di" a misspelling of "Did" or "Do"? [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 16:54, 21 July 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Clone of October the First Is Too Late  ==
 
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I'm holding your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5037596 clone] of ''October the First Is Too Late''.  I believe that we already have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265644 that publication] listed.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:13, 22 July 2021 (EDT)
 
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== ''Maps in a Mirror'' covers ==
 
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Hi.  I have your [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5056579 submission] on hold that proposes to make the 1992 ''Maps in a Mirror'' {{T|561829|cover}} a variant of the 1991 {{T|618077|cover}}.  The artwork does not look the same to me:
 
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Even with explicit Rodgers credits in both publications, and even though they are similar, I think the differences are substantial enough to treat the later one as a "major" revision of the earlier one.  In that case, we would not make one a variant of the other.  We only use variants for different credits/titles associated with the same piece of art, not for tracking derivatives.  What do you think?  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 08:14, 16 August 2021 (EDT)
 
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:::Well, we could add cross-references in their notes.  That's not as nice as a variant link, but it should help anyone looking at further instances of that artwork.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 10:36, 17 August 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Galactic Encounters ==
 
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Please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Willem_H.#Star_Quest:_An_Incredible_Voyage_Into_the_Unknown this discussion]. Can you agree with changing the books in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?37489 Galactic Encounters series] from NONFICTION to COLLECTION? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:32, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
 
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== The Demon Lord ==
 
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I put image URLs to The Demon Lord [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38287 here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?859247 here], please confirm. Thanks. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 04:03, 1 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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: No images appear on either of those two entries. Neither of the editions you point to are ones I own so no idea why you have informed me. There is already an image for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?598366 this edition] which the one I own. The Arrow edition had a large L shaped sun fade top and left so I didn't scan it before disposing of it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:46, 1 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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::Sorry, my contributions have been verified after the time You answered. Now the images are to see. And I didn't recognize before that You verified transient. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 14:20, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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::: Alrighty. However [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?859247 this] entry still has the wrong information. Cover art is stated to be Peter Jones when the book cover image is for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38287 this] edition. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:59, 5 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Bretnor's Modern Science Fiction ==
 
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You have marked your copy of the 1979 printing of Reginald Betnor's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?87303 Modern Science Fiction: Its Meaning and Its Future]'' with a Tuck secondary verification.  Since Tuck only covers through 1968 and the Volume that includes Bretnor was published in 1974, he doesn't cover a 1979 printing.  He does have the 1953 Coward-McCann printing as well as a Canadian Longman's printing that we don't have.  In any case, the Tuck verification should probably be removed from this publication.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:52, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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: If I knew how to do that I would but I don't. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:01, 29 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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:: Go to the verification screen for the book ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/verify.cgi?87303 here]) for this one. As you are holding the verification for Tuck, you will be able to select the radio box in the first column (not verified) on that line. Press update at the bottom. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 05:11, 29 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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::: Done. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:08, 29 October 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Date for Settlers in Space ==
 
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I will be adding the Reginald and Worldcat numbers to your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513508 publication] of ''Settlers in Space''.  Reginald has the date as 1980, so I'm going to go ahead and change that too and note the source.  Please let me know if you have any issues with that.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 22:54, 7 November 2021 (EST)
 
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: No issues. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:53, 10 November 2021 (EST)
 
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== Dream Makers: Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers at Work ==
 
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Can you take another look at the price of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38840 this verified pub]? My copy looks identical, only the price on the backcover is £9.95. Thanks for checking, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:41, 12 November 2021 (EST)
 
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: Yes £9.95 it is. I've submitted the correction. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:48, 12 November 2021 (EST)
 
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::And approved. Thanks! --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:02, 12 November 2021 (EST)
 
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== Bleiler's "Science Fiction Writers:" ==
 
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I'm trying to verifa my copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1185188 Science Fiction Writers], but can't decide which one I have. You verified the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267640 second printing, but the notes state: "Undated 2nd printing - number line thus: "1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 Q/C 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2" ". Can you check the numberline again? I.m.o. the econd printing should not have the "1" in the numberline, or does it state "second printing"?  Thanks for checking. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:52, 24 November 2021 (EST)
 
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: Right. I've checked my copy. You are correct about the numberline - mine is as you quoted. I've removed the verification from the undated 2nd printing and verified the first printing and added moved the notes from [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1185188 this entry] to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?789569 this entry]. Copyright pasge just has a 1982 copyright date no "second edition" statement. Hope that helps.  --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:28, 24 November 2021 (EST)
 
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:: I merged the two COVERART records (reminder: we have import...) :) A small proposal if I may - at the moment both printings have the same cover link, using the ID which belongs to the second printing. If someone ever decides to upload a new image for the second printing, the image for the first will also be changed without anyone even realizing it is happening. So re-uploading the cover with the "Upload new cover scan" link instead of re-using the link is a better idea. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:36, 24 November 2021 (EST)
 
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::: It isn't likely the cover art of the 2nd printing will be different from the 1st but fair point. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:07, 25 November 2021 (EST)
 
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:::: Thanks for making this clear! I verified the first printing, imported the contents and uploaded the coverscan from my copy. I think you forgot to add your verification [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?789569 here]. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 08:39, 25 November 2021 (EST)
 
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== Moonsinger's Friends ==
 
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I think the canonical title of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?347485 this] should be "Moonsinger's Friends: An Anthology in Honor of Andre Norton". Would you please look at your copy and see if that matches what's on its title page instead of the shorter "Moonsinger's Friends" that's on the record? I have a copy of the Bluejay trade paperback and the record in the DB is wrong for it so I am just trying to check with others who have a PV on the other pubs before recommending a change to the canonical title. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 12:29, 27 November 2021 (EST)
 
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::Thank you. May I make that change to your pub? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:07, 27 November 2021 (EST)
 
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::: I've already submitted the change of title to my publication. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:08, 27 November 2021 (EST)
 
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::::Thanks for your assistance. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 14:46, 27 November 2021 (EST)
 
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== Space Art ==
 
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Hi, Mavmaramis. If you could, would you add the illustrations in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513500 this book?]--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 15:32, 8 December 2021 (EST)
 
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: That would be a major task since almost every page has one (or more) images. It's a hard pass from me. Sorry. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:30, 9 December 2021 (EST)
 
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:: One quick note - the same request was made to the first printing PV [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Markwood#Space_Art here]. Please cross reference the two requests the next time - if both of them had actually added the art, we would have needed to do a ton of merges in addition to 2 editors doing the same work, losing everyone’s time by doing the same work twice as opposed to splitting It (for example) and adding the extra work to merge the images. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 00:53, 9 December 2021 (EST)
 
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::: Since Markwood has indicated he will add content then I'll lave that task to him. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:17, 9 December 2021 (EST)
 
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== Ariel: The Book of Fantasy, Volume Four ==
 
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You uploaded [[:Image:AERIAL4.jpg|this image]] with a template that says it belongs to {{P|3024|this pub}}. However, that image is not used on that pub (which instead uses [[:Image:RLTHTSYV7A1978.jpg|this image]]). Your image has a slightly different color, however. Is that just a scan effect and the image can be deleted as a duplicate? Or where you trying to show an alternate cover and not got around to linking it from the publication? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:27, 30 December 2021 (EST)
 
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::That seems to indicate [[:Image:AERIAL4.jpg]] is not needed anymore and can be deleted as  a duplicate. Is that correct? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2021 (EST)
 
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::: I guess so. Mhhutchins probably forgot to delete it. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:50, 31 December 2021 (EST)
 
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== Out of Space and Time: Volume II ==
 
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Fyi, concerning the foreword (Clark Ashton Smith: Master of Fantasy) in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?25330 this verified pub]. It's in the database as by uncredited, but it's signed as by August Derleth and Donald Wandrei. I'm going to change the credit and merge it with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?122203 this essay] (see the statement at the bottom of page 7). Hope you can agree. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 16:54, 1 January 2022 (EST)
 
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== Phantasia: Of Dockland, Rockland and Dodos ==
 
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Let's talk about [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?339139 this one] and its related titles. As the publication record is by Alan Aldridge, the NONFICTION record will also need to be by Alan Aldridge. We can add an extra interior art by him and switch the Willock title to an essay if you want but if you want the nonfiction to record to be by Willock, the author of the books will also need to be him - and that is just wrong from what I am seeing. Let me know how you want to proceed. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:53, 11 January 2022 (EST)
 
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:I wasn't entirely sure where to start with this book. The interior art is by Aldridge not Willock and the text is by Willock. Although Aldridge's name is on the cover the title page makes it more clear the art is by Aldridge. I hope that clear up the situation. Let me know where best to start with editing this please as I have notes to add to the Jonathan Cape edition I recently acquired ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:09, 12 January 2022 (EST)
 
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:: The best way I can think of:
 
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:: What do you think? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:15, 14 January 2022 (EST)
 
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::: Title page has Alan Aladridge (over) "illustrated in colaboration with Harry Willock". I already attempted to change them around (Aldridge to interior art, Willock to nonfiction) but you rejected those edits. Also "the Willock thing" isn't an essay it's nonfiction since he wrote the text of the book ! --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:42, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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:::: The author of the book (the publication) and the author of the non-fiction title record need to be the same. When you tried to swap them, you had Aldridge as the book author and Willock as the title author. That would have needed fixing in one of the two directions again - which is why I came over to see what you are trying to do so we can find the missing change.
 
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:: Adding both Aldridge & Wilock as authors seems to be a good idea. The interior art is all by Aldridge (same stuff that's in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?356472 this publication]) and again I reiterate the entirety of the non fiction text is by Willock and so can't be an essay can it. If you could do the changes then I can add notes to the copy I PVd. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 03:10, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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::: It can be an essay - essay is any non-fiction text inside of a book/magazine so if you want a record just for the text portion with just his name on it, it needs to be an essay. One of those small oddities in the DB - it’s because the non-fiction represents the whole book (think of chapbooks and short stories - we have two records there, just one here). However - just having the two of them as authors is also enough anyway and probably less confusing in the long run - so I’d do the changes in the morning and fix that interior art piece and let you know so you can add notes and so on. Thanks for explaining how how Title page looks like :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 03:34, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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:::: Done - as discussed. Feel free to edit further and thanks for providing the details. (And sorry for the delay - was away unexpectedly). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:53, 18 January 2022 (EST)
 
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== The Night Land ==
 
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Please see [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5196527 this submission] which impacts your verified pub. It is changing the pub notes & the cover artist. Are these database typos or are typos in the pub? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:04, 14 January 2022 (EST)
 
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: Just going to point out that PV entered the cover artist's name correctly in his notes, the same name on the back cover which is visible in the cover image, and then misspelled it when he entered the name in the cover artist field, and the original publisher's name wasn't entered in quotes and thus likely was not taken from the book itself but entered from somewhere else (maybe ISFDB) which either misspelled the publisher's name or possibly PV made a mistake again. --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:29, 14 January 2022 (EST)
 
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:: Cover artists name as entered in the field was a typo and the original publisher's name (Grafton) was taken from the publication not anywhere else so I can't see the "mistake" in that field that you see. Anyway corrections are all good --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:48, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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::: The publisher name that was wrong was the original 1912 one that you entered in your notes as "Eeleigh" Nash which I corrected to Eveleigh Nash. --[[User:Username|Username]] 07:47, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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:::: Ahh ok --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:43, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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== Many Futures, Many Worlds ==
 
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I was making some minor edits to Clareson's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?158461 Many Futures, Many Worlds: Theme and Form in Science Fiction]'', adding external identifiers.  I also happened upon a a link to a scan of the publication.  From that scan, I have added page numbers for each item.  However, I also found a few discrepancies between the scan and how we have titles listed:  We have the Schmidt essay with out the initial article (We have "Science in Science Fiction" without the initial "The" that appears on the title page; The credit for the Rhodes essay does not include her middle initial.  I'm going to go ahead and make both correction.  Please let me know if your copy disagrees with the scan.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 18:21, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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: Schmit essay title is "The Science in Science Fiction". As for Rhodes her middle initial only appears on the contents page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 23:59, 15 January 2022 (EST)
 
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== Blind Stamp [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?322431 Her Smoke Rose Up Forever]==
 
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Since you asked in a comment, a blind stamp is where they take a tool and stamp something without ink.  You question was in reference to the cover, so it is indicating that there would be an indented area in the shape of a maple leaf, but without ink.  Hope this helps. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 14:43, 26 January 2022 (EST)
 
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:::The blind stamping would probably be in the boards or binding cloth rather than the dustwrapper.  I know nothing about the specific book, but there certainly could be variations.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 20:30, 26 January 2022 (EST)
 
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== Hawkmistress ==
 
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Hi, could you check the cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16548 this] 1988 edition? The cover shown shows a price of £2.25 which clashes with the £2.99 price on the ISFDB page. I think the 1988 edition should have the Peter Jones cover shown [https://www.abebooks.com/Hawkmistress-3rd-Darkover-series-books-Bradley/9532203046/bd at Abebooks]. Thanks. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 07:46, 4 February 2022 (EST)
 
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:Right. I have the 1985 edition so I've removed my verification from that puba nd transferred it to the other one. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:22, 4 February 2022 (EST)
 
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== Moderator notes ==
 
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Saying "adding note" when making a change is not very useful. Once approved, noone can see what changed unless they tracked it back and we still have all the old entries - all they see here is which field is changed. I know that the system can be built better, with the ability to easily show the exact changes in the history but that's not how the system works so we need to work around that.
 
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It will be a bit more useful to say "added note about the cover artist attribution" in cases like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5216215 this one]. You can also see what I mean by "cannot see the difference" when looking at the entry in the history. Hope this makes sense and thanks for adding the note! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:04, 4 February 2022 (EST)
 
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:Ok I'll do that in future. I agree as I often see items in "My Changed Verifications" that I have no idea whats been changed as there isn't anything different between the "Current Changes" column and the "Proposed Changes" column. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:07, 4 February 2022 (EST)
 
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== Space Relations full title ==
 
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Would you please look at the title page for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?297675 this] and see if it actually reads "Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" instead of just "Space Relations"? All of the external ID records for this pub show the long form. Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 16:28, 2 March 2022 (EST)
 
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: Yes. Noted only on the title page. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:23, 3 March 2022 (EST)
 
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== Beyond Lies the Wub - TOC order ==
 
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I see that you are the PV for the 1990 edition of Grafton's "Beyond Lies the Wub" (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?274738).
 
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In pursuing another project, I noticed that the titles in this edition are organized in alphabetical order, with no title order information listed.
 
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I am prepared to be wrong, but a later printing of this Grafton edition by Harper Voyager (Internet Archive) shows a title order that matches the other editions of the Grafton version.
 
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I'd be happy to re-order them to match and make sense, but I'd like your confirmation that the order shown is not correct. Other versions I have seen start with "Preface", "Introduction", "Stability" and end with "Nanny" and "Notes".
 
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[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 21:35, 3 March 2022 (EST)
 
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: That's fine and yes order is as you state. I'm guessing it's in alphabetical order due to their being no page numbers associated with the content. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:39, 4 March 2022 (EST)
 
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::My thanks for the confirmation. I will take care of that.
 
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I am used to some changes in order between different versions of anthologies, especially from different publishers. However, this seemed rather random, and when I checked I saw no page numbers or order numbers which I assume led to a default alphabetical order. [[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 10:48, 4 March 2022 (EST)
 
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: They are not exactly random - there is no order really so the order is based on the IDs inside of the table where the pub/title connections are and the title IDs themselves. So as a rule, if you want the order to stay, always use piped numbers. We tried to change the order to alphabetical a few years back with disastrous results - in most omnibuses and anthologies, the default order works well enough - it is when things get merged/imported later when the order gets out of whack. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:29, 4 March 2022 (EST)
 
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::Thanks. Interesting, and good to know. I'll fix it anyway.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 18:57, 4 March 2022 (EST)
 
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::: The short advice is: Always use page numbers (piped or not - depending on the format and what you know) when you know the order in a book ;) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:03, 4 March 2022 (EST)
 
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Upon looking at this version, it includes the "Foreword" by Steven Owen Godersky. I don't see that in the other Grafton versions of "Beyond Lies the Wub". Can you confirm for me if it is present or not in this edition? Thanks.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 12:04, 6 March 2022 (EST)
 
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: No it contains no such Foreword. Only a Preface by Dick and Introduction by Zelazny. p.501-510 are Notes. Edited to place your addendum here instead of a new section. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:43, 6 March 2022 (EST)
 
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::Thanks for both things. I'll take care of that edit. I appreciate your help.[[User:Dave888|Dave888]] 19:09, 6 March 2022 (EST)
 
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== Amarant ==
 
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== Ellison Essay ==
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?20843; Hard to believe a Harlan Ellison collection wouldn't have page #'s entered but I found one and entered them from an eBay copy, [https://www.picclickimg.com/images/g/cZgAAOSwxfVhgCNw/s-l1600.jpg]; however, the essay "Motherhood..." doesn't appear on the contents page. If you as PV still have the book maybe you can enter # of it. --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:25, 6 March 2022 (EST)
 
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== Destination: Void ==
 
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5264139 this submission]: We already have an entry for the 1985 reprinting {{P|233153|here}}. Your entry would seem to be a duplicate. Am I missing something? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:48, 18 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Yes. As my note made clear my copy has a black Penguin sticker with higher prices stuck on the back obscuring the lower price. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:33, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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::I saw that. Is the sticker clearly the publisher's or is it a bookseller's that just added the publisher's name? We don't create new records based on "aftermarket" pricing. If it's the publisher's, then there is a case for it. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:30, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: As I clearly stated in my previous reply "a black Penguin sticker" - i.e. the sticker is clearly the publishers. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:46, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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::::I created a [[ISFDB:Community_Portal#Publisher_Pricing_Stickers|Community Portal post]] to gather feedback on how we want to handle this case. You are welcome to participate. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:16, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Forest of Forever ==
 
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Regarding [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5264148 this submission]: You removed "First printing as per copyright page." from the publication notes. Was that intentional? Does your publication not have that statement? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:50, 18 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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: No my publication does not specifically have the words "first printing" on the copyright page hence why I edited the notes to reflect the publication history that was actually printed. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:31, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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::While it's possible Hauck made an error, he was usually pretty conscientious. Since he's no longer around to ask, we will have to accept that there was a version that stated first printing. You should clone instead and make a note that there is no printing statement in your addition. I have rejected the edit. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:20, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: Except my copy is exactly the same edition as the one lited. Hauck may have used the words "First printing" to mean first Mayflower printing but even then as stated those specific words do not appear on copyright page so I don't see why I shouldb be required to clone an identical publication. Hpowever I will do so. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:42, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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::::: No I definately do not have a reprint. Publication details are as stated - Mayflower 1975 no other additional printing stated on copyright page so it cannot be a reprint. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:16, 19 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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(Unindent) Thanks for your quite thorough investigation. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 01:25, 21 March 2022 (EDT)
 
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==Aldiss / Earthworks==
 
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I am editing / PVing Aldiss's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?274946 Earthworks].  I will change the author's name from "Brian W. Aldiss" to "Brian Aldiss" as stated on title page and add notes. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 16:41, 3 April 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The book of Frank Herbert ==
 
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Hi, I've accepted [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5278749 your submission], but changed the publisher back to Panther / Granada (for now). I believe it should be either Panther, or Panther / Granada, not just Granada. 'Published by Panther Books 1977' means exactly what it says, hence the reversal :). I've added / Granada as Panther [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?12701 was acquired in 1968 by Granada]. Do not hesitate to ask other moderators their opinion if you would disagree. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 07:23, 6 April 2022 (EDT)
 
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:At that date it is tricky to determine. Some entries are "Granada" for that date others "Panther" and a third set "Panther / Granada". I made a note that it has "Granada" on the spine. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:55, 6 April 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Unteleported Man ==
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230441<br>
 
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My copy says Australia&New Zealand $2.75<br>
 
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: The answer is no - you have the same edition as I do. The other prices in the notes are not correct. They are indeed $2.75 Aus & NZ. Plus the notes don't provide enough publication details either. I'll edit the record to add that and correct the erronious other prices. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:39, 21 April 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Chris Foss: Easter Island pic reused for Serbian anthology? ==
 
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Hi, you've got a few Chris Foss artbooks PVed - including the portfolio poster set, which I had at the time, but have long since lost/misplaced.  Am I right in thinking that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2171655 Easter Island] aka Visitors from Outer Space: Easter Island is the same image as used on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2785618 a 1998 Serbian anthology]?  I'm wary of making the latter a variant given we don't have the actual image on file for the former (due to it being logged as INTERIORART), and I know he has at least one other [https://retroscifiart.tumblr.com/post/133187975215/another-easter-island-classic-from-chris-foss spaceship over Easter Island picture] that it could be confused for.  That latter one with a black spaceship is much less familiar to me than the one on the Serbian anthology, so I'd guess it's the Easter Island one, but would definitely prefer to have confirmation.  Cheers [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 13:30, 17 May 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: Great, thanks [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 07:01, 18 May 2022 (EDT)
 
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== That Hideous Strength ==
 
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Does your front cover display the red 2'- mark? Mine does not. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 12:04, 20 May 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: Then I am very curious to what is different between our two editions. This is my copyright page [https://upload.vaa.red/jwsiQ#a193bda3d5180554a316160ba43c1429]. My edition is missing price tag. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:11, 20 May 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Celestial Steam Locomotive ==
 
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Hi, I stumbled on [https://www.artmajeur.com/ian-hopkins?page=5 this] page which shows the original art of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?36898 The Celestial Steam Locomotive] as well as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6338 Cat Karina] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15661 Gods of the Greataway]. The artist nicknames himself Rikkihop and states he's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?25993 Richard Hopkinson]. So let's just ignore the "ian-hopkins" in the url, right? (Already submitted the second, the first got lost, then the site refused further communication). [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 11:11, 4 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Aliens Among Us ==
 
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?326206 this] is David Jackson, the incomplete signature in the lower right corner is part of the DJ signature visible on [https://www.ebay.fr/itm/275177135816?hash=item4011d5dec8:g:S-0AAOSwDb5fQ4oy La Famille] (the backcover credits Jackson). [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 16:36, 4 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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Changed the artist on your PVd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?6109 Cardography] from Leslie Comer to Leslie Newcomer.  I believe that was just a typo.  Leslie Newcomer is a recognized artist on ISFDB and works for Hypatia (she is related to the publisher, Alan Bard Newcomer).[[User:SFJuggler|Jim]] 12:56, 5 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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== More Rejects That Shouldn't Be ==
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5336123; http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5336124; Even though your note says not to inform you about minor changes, this mod rejected these minor changes anyway, so I'll ask you. Is it OK to add pub. series to one of those records and fix the other record where the word "Series" was left off the pub. series? I mean, it does say Writers of the 21st Century Series on both covers. --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:30, 11 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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== No Direction Home ==
 
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Is cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?302359 this] given as W. F. Phillips, or as W. F. Phillipps? In the first case, it should be varianted to W. F. Phillipps with 2 p's. Thanks! [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:09, 12 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Falcons of Narabedla ==
 
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Can you check the final sentence of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?640300 this publication]? I'm trying to establish if it contains the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1946 1957 magazine version] or the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3040549 1964 expanded version]. The final sentence of both versions are in the title notes. Thanks for checking, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:04, 15 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: My copy ends "I heard it, drew a deep breath and then put my arm around Cynara, calling to Adric to come and share it with me" thus it';s the expanded version. 150 pages - less 6 which are totally blank and allowing for another 2 for the spare spaces - so 142 pages. 34 lines of text per full page at between 8 and 12 words per line - so say 310 words per page - makes that around 44,000 words. Hope that helps. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:16, 15 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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:::::: I had come to an average of about 254 words per page, with an absolute high of 266 words on one page in my sample, and with an overall majority seeming to lie just beneath or around 250 words a page: the reason for this seems to lie in not discounting the empty space and the shorter lines (for example of dialogue and paragraph endings). I think the right way to do it is to actually count the words on representative sample pages (and discount unused space of chapter endings & beginnings). Thus, the word count estimate does lie beneath the threshold of 40,000 words: at 37,772 for the high point page, at 36,608 for the average, and even below that for the 'impressionist' average. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 00:59, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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When using a secondary source, you need to state the source in the publication notes, not just in the moderator notes. This is especially true for verified pubs. I have added the source for the cover to the three Spellsinger pubs. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:11, 19 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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::That is a secondary source. The primary source is only the pub of that specific record. If data comes from anything else, it is a secondary source. The source needs to be stated in the pub notes even when pulling the data from another edition. Especially in cases like {{P|314982|this one}} where the primary pub notes are "Artist not credited." Without the source for where the cover artist credit comes from, there would be a conflict between the pub notes and the existence of the credit. Also, for these covers, the {{P|130571|edition}}, you took the credit from did not credit the artist either. It's source is {{T|102622|Heroic Dreams}}. I added the original source to each one. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:43, 19 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Death Reign of the Vampire King ==
 
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: Alrighty. Since it was a transient copy I'll leave you to edit the entry. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:22, 25 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Evil People ==
 
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[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?309742 The Evil People] has the same cover art as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?422468 Skeleton Keys: Tales from the Edge of the Chair] credited on back cover to Lombadaro, which should be, based on style, Joseph Lombardero. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 10:36, 28 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?176711 S Is For Space] ==
 
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The cover you uploaded actually belongs to the other Pan edition on ISFDB, per prices on back cover; that edition already has a cover uploaded by someone 5 years ago, but it doesn't display on the Wiki page because the dimensions are just over 600. --[[User:Username|Username]] 08:39, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Evil People ==
 
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Hi. The variant already exists[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2999830]. This submission would create a variant of it's self[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5353508].[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:49, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Ah right yeah I had a bit of difficulty figuring out which original to variant but I see it's already been done so all good. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 16:56, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Harlan Ellison Hornbook ==
 
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Hi, a submission looks to fix a possible spelling mistake The Harlan Ellison Hornbook[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5351381] can you check your copies. I've messaged the other PV. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:51, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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:Submitter is correct - should be 'angrier' --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 23:43, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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::Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 00:23, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Art of Magic: The Gathering - Kaladesh ==
 
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Hi. Your note indicated that you want to remove the interior art record but this is an update with no change[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5353522]. If you want to remove content select "Remove Titles From This Pub", check the interior art record & submit or I can do it, but better if you do it. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:35, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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:Thanks for the tip. I've now done it the way you suggested. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 23:46, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Spacecraft in Fact and Fiction price ==
 
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You have a note on you verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514670 copy] of ''Spacecraft in Fact and Fiction''.  I was able to determine the price from the British Library and have added it along with the source, and some external identifiers.  Please let me know if you have a problem with the changes.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 16:50, 10 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Bluesman, a PV no more, verified the Exeter American edition in 2018; a copy was uploaded in Dec. 2020 to Archive.org, so I added a link to that record (LCCN on OL doesn't work, though, and LCCN says the Brit edition was published by "Orbin"). --[[User:Username|Username]] 17:31, 10 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?836048 The Art of NASA] inclusion ==
 
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Regarding your question about the addition of ''The Art of NASA''.  The book won a Locus award for "Best Art or Illustrated Book".  I would have to dig through the help files, but I believe that there is an exception that allows books that are nominated or win a genre award to be included, though I never apply this exception for graphic novels or comics.  Hope this answers your question.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:02, 27 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: I don't recall us explicitly changing the rule for otherwise non-genre works with genre nominations, but the only time that the current version of [[ISFDB:Policy]] mentions awards is in the context of Web publication, where it says:
 
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: Alrighty thanks. I'm guessing it won that award after 12 November 2020 when Annie stated that it would not be eligable. Also on another note I notice [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?825393 this] has also been added which I've owned since it was first published but again I assumed it would not be eligable as it's Russian magazine illustrations of a sci-fi nature. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:49, 27 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Incredible Melting Man ==
 
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== Tuck Numbering ==
 
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Another editor has changed the page count for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209269 Tuck Volume 2] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209273 Tuck Volume 3] from (8)+(244) to [8]+244 and (8)+(389) to [8]+389 respectively.  The page numbering continues across all three volumes of Tuck and I suspect that was the reason for the non-standard numbering.  These volumes also have a note explaining the continued numbering of those pages for the Arabic numbers.  I don't think that the bracketed count for the pages with Roman numbers is correct.  The brackets imply that the pages are not numbered.  I would like to change the page count to give the number of pages using Roman numbers (viii+244 for 2 and viii+389 for 3) I would also update the note to explain the continued numbering ([xiii] to xx for 2 and [xxi] to xxviii for 3).  I would also adjust the note for Volume 3 to indicate the start of the Arabic numbered pages as [231] (the page that would be 231 is a section title page and has no number).  You have verified one or both of these books.  Would you have any objections to my proposed changes?  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 11:46, 30 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Monsters ==
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5377474; I added page numbers to the Methuen edition (they're the same as the Magnet edition, but contents were all out of order so numbering them will fix that); I assume they match your PV copy. However, since they end on 166, is the page count of 128 correct? Shouldn't it be 166 like Magnet's? --[[User:Username|Username]] 21:40, 30 July 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Supernatural Omnibus ==
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?449209; I added stories' #'s from photos on Dalby's site, but the last 2 #'s weren't photographed properly so I couldn't enter them; also, there are a few stories on the contents pages that aren't in the contents entered on ISFDB, "Brickett Bottom" and "How the Third Floor Knew the Potteries". --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:49, 1 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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== The Mists of Avalon ==
 
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I intended to hold [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5376553 this submission] but approved it by accident. You will see I immediately deleted the created pub record. We don't record separate printings of book club editions. You just detail any differences in the existing record. In this case, a change in catalogue number, and no 'gutter code' indicating a printing subsequent to mid-1987. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:45, 3 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:I can't prove my copy is a Book Club edition, plus the dustwrapper is substantially different. There are many differences between my copy and the Knopf Book Club edition which won't seperate the two merely by adding notes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:44, 3 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: If I may chime in - a gutter code change (or lack of) is indeed a reprint (and we note these into the notes only) but a change in the catalog number is a new release usually - we use the catalog number as an ID for these books after all and a change in that will mean that the old value CANNOT stay in the Catalog ID field as it is incorrect for some editions lumped into that record now - ergo we need a new record for it... Just thinking aloud here. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:29, 3 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: Well either accept my original submission and reject the edits I've made to the Knopf/SFBC edtion or vice versa. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:36, 3 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::::: Right I've now re-submitted the one that Scifibones deleted. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:00, 3 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:::::: We'll want to have it cleaned up. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 14:17, 3 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::::::: Other than the catalogue number, it looked like just a later reprint. If the intent of our standards is to define a new catalogue number as a new edition, then this qualifies. I tend to think a new edition is when you see printed by 'Berryville Graphics' or 'Quality Printing', etc. Perhaps a page count difference. Either way, edits to the original submission were going to be necessary. I'm sorry Mavmaramis has to reenter some information, but I'm glad to see this discussed. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 14:27, 3 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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Hi - [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PublicationFields:Price the rules] say "''Note that between about 1968 and 1971, British books were usually printed with both pre-decimal and decimal prices. In these cases enter only the pre-decimal price, as the decimal price was not the currency used at the time of printing, but was printed in case...''". So, I've reverted your edits that entered the decimal price in the following edits: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5380012], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5380011], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5380010], [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5380009]. I may have inadvertently approved other edits of yours where you updated the price to decimal currency of 1970-ish UK publications - if you could have a look? Sorry about that. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 07:15, 4 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:The only issue I can see is if the edition has both an old and a new price but is not dated for example [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?588887 Tros] so which one should go in the price and which in the notes ?. I'll swap the prices round for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307518 Helma]; [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?307519 Liafail] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?274871 Helene] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 14:31, 4 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: I think it's a safe bet that also for Tros the pre-decimal prices apply. You could add notes to clarify. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 15:17, 4 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Dragonlance Atlas ==
 
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While adding external IDs to your verified copy of ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?279092 Atlas of the Dragonlance World]''.  I noticed that both Worldcat and Reginald3 give the title with the initial article i.e. "'''The''' Atlas of the Dragonlance World".  Further, I see that "The" is present on the cover scan, above the decorative border.  I see that Locus1 omits it, which is probably why we have it that way.  Could you check the title page and see if "The" is present there?  I'll also note that the Penguin reprint has the initial article in Locus1 and I'm going to change the publication record.  However, I won't unmerge it and make a variant yet in case your investigations show that the title match.  Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 07:29, 5 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Title page definately has "The", same typeface as the cover. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:12, 5 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Porges [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276919 Tarzan] ==
 
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https://archive.org/details/edgarriceburroug0001porg; You seem to be the only active PV, so I'm letting you know that someone uploaded one of the volumes in 2020 in case you want to do anything more or add a link here or something. The date is October here even though the book says September (as does note here), so that might need fixing. --[[User:Username|Username]] 10:41, 8 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::I added that so I would know which publication you were referring to. If the book states publication month is September I have no idea why date was changed to October. If you feel it neccessary to add a link to the  Archive feel free to do so but I won't be doing so. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:49, 8 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: There's only 1 book published by Porges about Tarzan that you PV, and I linked the Archive copy, so I think it was pretty obvious what book I was referring to; I was trying to be nice by not messing with your verification, especially since the uploaded copy seems to be just 1 volume, not 2, and I thought you as the only currently active PV would like to know about it so you could check and see if anything differs from your copy, add a link to the Archive.org copy so people can actually read this rare book, etc. At the very least I'd think the date should be fixed. But you don't seem interested, so forget it. --[[User:Username|Username]] 13:21, 8 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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== A Puffin Science Ficition Galaxy ==
 
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Re {{P|902897|A Puffin Science Ficition Galaxy}}: Is Fiction misspelled on the pub title page or is this a database error? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:49, 9 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269391; Someone uploaded Savoy ed. to Archive.org in Nov. 2020, page count is 164, not 173, and price is on back, 1.25, with New Zealand and Canada prices, too. Does all that jibe with your PV copy? --[[User:Username|Username]] 13:55, 10 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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Just stumbled across [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?294833 this], which you have PVed.  I'm pretty sure this is a different guy from the YA/kids author of the same name with some 2017-2022 titles, who [https://www.davidowenbooks.com/meet-david.html doesn't look old enough to have been writing in the late 70s].  Any objection to splitting these up?  There are also a couple of 1980 & 1982 poems that I imagine should also go with the Fantastic Planet author.
 
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:: Thanks - have now shifted all the newer titles & pubs over to "David Owen (YA author)". [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 16:20, 12 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: Looks good to me. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:08, 12 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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{{P|910485|Genre Fiction: The Roaring Years}} reprints two reviews that originally appeared in <i>Survey of Science Fiction Literature</i>:
 
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I would like to import these into the original volumes which you have verified without contents. Can you please check that these are present and provide the page numbers? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 11:29, 14 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:Right Camp Concentration appears on pages 277-282 of Volume 1. The Fifth Head of Cerberus appears on pages 770-775 of Voilume 2. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 11:49, 14 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::Thanks, appreciated. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 15:55, 14 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?486591; I added a link to the Archive copy and the page numbers, plus intro which isn't in the contents. --[[User:Username|Username]] 09:17, 15 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346241 this] is Dean Ellis, see [https://grapefruitmoongallery.com/24001 grapefruitmoongallery.] [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 18:07, 16 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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I have merged the contents for {{P|798239|Leigh Brackett Super Pack}}. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:19, 20 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Edmund Cooper / News from Elsewhere ==
 
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I will be editing and PVing [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293398 News from Elsewhere]. I will add pub notes and correct the title of the story "Judgement Day" to "Judgment Day" which is an existing variant. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:16, 22 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Sounds good to me. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:05, 22 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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I will soon edit and PV [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514176 Hale & Gresham Hardback Science Fiction] and propose to 1) change the title by inserting a hyphen, as per title page 2) change the format from "tp" to "ph" 3) add pub notes. Is this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:34, 25 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Yes. Format shouldn't be tp as it's a stapled affair. I actually got my copy from Roger who sent it to me along with the copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?88427 Who's Hugh] I'd sent to him duly inscribed. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 20:21, 25 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?820084; This page, https://fantlab.ru/user13240/blogpage1, shows the full cover with artwork on the back; does yours have the same and, if so, shouldn't the full cover be uploaded? --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:11, 28 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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: If it were wraparound (i.e. one piece of art) then yes. In this case the rear portion is a totally different piece of art so no (IMO). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 23:15, 28 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: OK, thanks for your reply. --[[User:Username|Username]] 23:27, 28 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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Hi. Concerning [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5408390 this submission] of yours. If it's already there it is better to keep the bulleted lists in notes, rather than removing them, as it will benefit legibility. Regards, [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 09:22, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Bulleted list wasn't there to begin with. If you're so concerend about readability you're free to go change every other entry on ISFDB that doesn't have a bulletted list. As far as I'm concerned it's readable either way. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 09:29, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: Eh, looked at the history some more, and yup, it has seen a bit of a back and forth across multiple edits... [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 12:35, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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== His Dark Materials ==
 
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Are you ok with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5392838 this pub series added] to your transiently PV'd publication? Thanks! [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 11:42, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Guess so but since it was transient I no longer have the copy to verify. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:12, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: OK, thanks. I've approved it. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 12:30, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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::: It is not neccessary to inform me about such changes especially in regards to transient verifications. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 13:02, 31 August 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Who's Who in Star Trek ==
 
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Someone just added Reginald ID to your PV, and while looking at it I noticed several things I could add/fix; I know it's transient but just letting you know in case you disagree with anything; https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5414756. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:32, 8 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Seriously. You don't need to leave me messages about this kind of thing. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:07, 9 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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== 21st Century Foss ==
 
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You pv'd [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513509 this edition] of 21st Century Foss. I think it is rather a mess. It contains 17 German titles, a duplicate (page 94) and maybe more strange things. Would you mind if I remove all contents and import the contents of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?266880 the 1978 edition]? Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 14:32, 19 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Should be carful mind. I have a distinct memory of comparing the Dragon's Dream paperback edition from a library with that of the BCA one I own and found differences - captions I think but can't remember exactly the nature of the differences. I really should upload a full cover scan (back and front) of my copy at some point. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 14:45, 19 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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:: Ok. Shall I then remove the German titles and the duplicate on page 94? All the originals of the German titles are already present. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 15:20, 19 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Fine. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:36, 20 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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::Thanks! Contents should be ok now, but please check if you have the time. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] ([[User talk:Willem H.|talk]]) 04:29, 20 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Edmund Cooper (Richard Avery) / The Deathworms (Death Worms) of Kratos ==
 
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I need to notify 5 active PVs of changes I propose to make to the above title. The details of the changes are on my talk page [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Teallach#Edmund_Cooper_.28Richard_Avery.29_.2F_The_Deathworms_.28Death_Worms.29_of_Kratos here]. If you wish to comment, could you please do so on my talk page so that we keep the whole conversation in one place. Thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:08, 19 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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== John Varley / Titan (map & diagram) ==
 
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I am drawing your attention to [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#John_Varley_.2F_Titan_.28map_.26_diagram.29 this topic] on the Community Portal which affects a pub that you have PVd. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:31, 26 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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: Thanks. I've read that topic - indicating two seperate interior art pieces would be the most lofical way to go (for me at least). If that feels klike a bit of a daunting task to you - well you opened that can of worms. Make whatever edits you feel neccessary. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 00:31, 27 September 2022 (EDT)
 
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Cover artist of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?312293 this] is almost certainly not Roy Carnon, the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?107671 1973 ed] has an incorrect reference to [https://www.erbzine.com/mag7/0748.html erbzine.com]. Only the 1960s Four Square editions are by Carnon. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] ([[User talk:Horzel|talk]]) 17:38, 18 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?31366; A copy of Space 6 was recently uploaded to Archive.org, so after adding a link here I checked the other volumes and saw that #2 was PV by you but the contents' #'s weren't entered, but there is a snippet view copy on Google Books. I got most of the numbers, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5468447, but couldn't get Klein's or Cleaver's. So if you still have your copy and can fill in those numbers, great, or if you want to add all of them I can always cancel my edit, since it will probably be a long while before anyone gets around to approving it. Also, I couldn't find the price (maybe cover is missing on Google's copy, since it's on the front flap in Space 6), and Bulmer's story is by Ken, not Kenneth, since a search for Kenneth found nothing. Finally, I don't know who entered the month, but it wasn't added to the original stories, so if it was you then you may want to add that, too. If you'd rather not do any of this, at least most of the numbers will still be added once my edit's approved. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:34, 29 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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::OK, thanks. I see now that Google's copy does have a cover (partially visible if you search for a word that's on the flaps), but maybe it's price-clipped like yours, which is why searching for words like NET and UK got nothing. Also, I think I got 127 as the page for Cleaver's story, but Google has a habit of not displaying search results after a certain amount, so I think I'll be able to extract the other 2 numbers later. I also noticed that you PV the PB, and it's Ken Bulmer there, too (eBay photo of contents), so maybe you can make a variant. The delay in approvals is probably due to the move to a new server and the resulting fake accounts and many bugs that need to be blocked/fixed, so I don't think non-mod edits are their top priority right now. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:00, 29 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Philip K. Dick / The Game-Players of Titan ==
 
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?166461 The Game-Players of Titan] and propose to change the date from 1977-00-00 to 1977-06-00 and add a pub note stating the source: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?360808 Galactic Central Bibliography]. I will also add the month to the associated records. I will be adding the month to several other PKD books in the near future. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 17:42, 30 October 2022 (EDT)
 
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I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230805 Dr. Bloodmoney] and propose to 1) change the title from "Dr. Bloodmoney" to "Dr Bloodmoney" as per title page 2) add notes about the different variations of the title in different places within the book 3) import the existing record for the interiorart on page 1 (it's the same as the 1965 Ace 1st ed). Is all this ok with you? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 12:28, 2 November 2022 (EDT)
 
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There is an Archive.org copy, uploaded in 2011, https://archive.org/details/worldofwarcrafta00brad, of your 2015 PV, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514381; you also uploaded the cover in 2018 and nobody's touched this book since then. I noticed the price is on the rear in the barcode, $29.99, so I'm going to add the Archive link and the price, unless you disagree. This page, https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/World_of_Warcraft_Atlas_(book), has the same price. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:27, 5 November 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Music of Many Spheres ==
 
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I am also confused what you were trying to match in the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?9384 series] as the other books don't have the series name as part of the title either. Let me know if you have any questions. I will see if there are other submissions on these books in the queue - if so, if they are the same change, they will also be rejected for the same reasons. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:05, 9 November 2022 (EST)
 
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Changing contents of collection, "The Eye of the Lens" [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?39381] and also [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269391]; disambiguating short story "The Eye of the Lens" from novelette "The Eye of the Lens" which is a  concatenation of the three short stories, "The Hall of Machines", "The Coming of the Sun", and "The Eye of the Lens"; if that's OK. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 01:11, 27 November 2022 (EST)
 
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5496228; I didn't mess with the prices, but as I've been told more than once the rule on ISFDB is to enter the pre-decimal price in the field and the decimal price in the notes, so 25s should be the price and £1.25 should be in the notes. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 10:24, 27 November 2022 (EST)
 

Latest revision as of 01:25, 11 April 2024

PLEASE NOTE:

I am now only checking this page very infrequently. You do not need to inform me about minor changes especially to transient verifications - just go ahead and amend the record as necessary. Anything else please continue to post messages here and I will (eventually) respond.

Thanks.

Archive 1 (2015-2020)
Archive 2 (2020-2022)

Recent Cyteen changes

Hi. You just made changes to Cyteen with this submission. While I don't disagree with the changes, you really should have contacted both GlennMcG and me who are active PVs for that publication first. We both respond quickly. You also should have changed the page count to [7]+680 with the first map on [6] and the second map on [7]. Regards, Phil (talk) 07:50, 19 November 2023 (EST)

Would you object if I make the following changes to the hardcover edition of Cyteen? Change the page count to [7]+680 with the first map on [6] and the second map on [7]. (Also sent to other PV) Thanks! Phil (talk) 15:04, 13 December 2023 (EST)
Decidedly yes object to doing that - does not at all match my physical copy. First numbered page is 1 (Verbal Text from: THE HUMANE REVOLUTION....).The maps are on the preceeding UNNUMBERED pages before this and there are decidedly not seven unnumbered pages prior to page 1 either. --Mavmaramis (talk) 15:43, 13 December 2023 (EST)
Looking at the Help text for the Pages field, it says "Sometimes a publication will have unnumbered pages before page 1. If there is any material in these pages which needs to be entered as part of the contents of the book, you may record this by entering the count in squared brackets. For example, [6]+320 would be a publication with six unnumbered pages and then 320 numbered pages. There is no need to record these unnumbered pages if they contain no content that needs to be recorded.". We both agree that there are unnumbered pages before page 1 and there are two maps on those unnumbered pages. My understanding is that you count the unnumbered pages starting with the first page with printing on it from the front of the book and count until you reach the last unnumbered page with printing on it. Starting with the page that has only "Cyteen" printed on it and stopping on the last map page, there are a total of 7 unnumbered pages. Per the Help, that number is entered in brackets, hence [7], making the correct page count value [7]+680. The two maps are on unnumbered pages 6 and 7, so they are entered as pages [6] and [7] respectively in the page number field of their Regular title entries. Does this make sense to you? Regards, Phil (talk) 08:00, 14 December 2023 (EST)
You are overcomplicating what is an already straightforward entry. Normally one does not count things like title page, copyright page etc as part of the page numbering. Do whay you will I have nothing furthwer to say. --Mavmaramis (talk) 11:54, 14 December 2023 (EST)
Based on your response, I thought it would be prudent to check on this with a moderator. Based on this discussion, I determined that my counting procedure was correct. Since the other PV agrees with my revised changes, I have updated the record accordingly. Regards. Phil (talk) 08:32, 16 December 2023 (EST)

Fontana's A Cure For Cancer

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?220125; I added Archive.org link in a PENDING edit and fixed publisher to Fontana / Collins since that's what it says in the book on the title page. --Username (talk) 19:49, 21 November 2023 (EST)

Childhood's End

Can you please take a look at Childhood's End? The catalog number is given as G643, but the cover shows G463. Is this a database typo or does the book have the transposed digits inside? Can you either correct the record or add a publication note regarding the disconnect? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:27, 2 December 2023 (EST)

It was a databse typo. Check physical copy and it is G463 which is only printed on the cover and nowhere else. I've submitted a correction. --Mavmaramis (talk) 08:32, 2 December 2023 (EST)
Approved. Thanks! -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:06, 2 December 2023 (EST)

Golden Apples of the Sun 1978 UK HC

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?520003; I added Archive.org link and entered page numbers for the stories in a PENDING edit but there are 2 stories not in the book; "Great Fire" and "Big Black and White Game". I'm going to remove them and also import Mugnaini's interior art. Re: publisher I think it should probably be changed to this, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubs_not_in_series.cgi?17853, as similarly dated and priced Bradbury books are there, but that's up to you. --Username (talk) 12:48, 8 December 2023 (EST)

Can confirm the two stories you mentioned are not in this publication. As far as publisher goes maybe wise to include Granada as the publiher (so something like Hart-Davis, MacGibbon / Granada) as Granada Publishing is prominent on title page and copyright page. Otherwise someone might assume that Granada had no part in it's publication. You could always raise this on the Moderator Noticeboard on the Commiunity Portal given that merely becasue other Bradbury publications of this date were merely entered as Hart-Davis, MacGibbon does not indicate Granada were not involved. --Mavmaramis (talk) 13:20, 8 December 2023 (EST)

Suaine and the Crow-God

I added the Internet Archive scan to Suaine and the Crow-God. In doing so, I noticed the page count was wrong (the prior count was less than the last listed contents) and two typos. I made the corrections based on the scan. If by some odd chance, the scan differs from your copy, please let me know and I will revert and clone a new record. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:25, 10 December 2023 (EST)

Page count should be 255, checked with my physical copy. --Mavmaramis (talk) 11:58, 10 December 2023 (EST)
Thanks for confirming. My prior edit seems to have gone missing. I must not have hit submit. I re-did it so you will now also see the typo corrections. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:32, 10 December 2023 (EST)
I noticed edit was missing so I did one; it was rejected because J's edit fixed the same stuff. However, there may be a few other issues. I think "day on end" should be days; also, why are some art titles capitalized and others not? --Username (talk) 13:13, 10 December 2023 (EST)

The Lost Continent of Mu

Would you please check the page 70 artwork title of The Lost Continent of Mu? Is the missing space in "TheDistribution..." a database typo? If not, please add a note stating it is original to the pub. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:28, 10 December 2023 (EST)

It's a typo. Should be "The Distribution" (with a space). --Mavmaramis (talk) 11:50, 10 December 2023 (EST)
Fixed. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:35, 10 December 2023 (EST)

Tegne

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?34650; I added Archive.org link and other stuff to the PB in a PENDING edit; first word in the title has an accent over the e so I fixed that. If your PV TP does, too, then you can fix that and I'll add it to cover art (parent and variant) and title record. EDIT: I just noticed something; since it's a series then Tegne shouldn't be in the PB or TP titles because that's the rules here, dropping series names from titles. The series title does have the accent over the e so if you agree to remove Tegne then I'll re-do my edit doing the same and then I'll just have to add the accent to the cover art(s). --Username (talk) 23:05, 12 December 2023 (EST)

Warlord of Zendow does indeed have an accent over the e of Tegne. --Mavmaramis (talk) 23:58, 12 December 2023 (EST)

Half A Life Title

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269198; While just making an edit adding archived link I noted subtitle "and Other Stories" is also in this edition so can you add that to the title if it's also in your copy? --Username (talk) 10:38, 20 December 2023 (EST)

Done. --Mavmaramis (talk) 11:54, 20 December 2023 (EST)

Space Traveller

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?70359; While adding Archive.org link I also noted NZ $18.95 price, no number on last page, and misspelled word on title page (Reminiscenes); not sure if that error requires a variant but that's up to you. I also added link for Star Diaries (Mandarin edition); nothing else was required for that. Both are PENDING and should be approved sometime in the New Year. --Username (talk) 23:12, 29 December 2023 (EST)

That's fine. All details you mentioned confirmed from my own copy. --Mavmaramis (talk) 01:50, 30 December 2023 (EST)

Digital Fantasy Painting

Happy New Year! Would you mind if I added some images to this record? https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?514360 —Rosab618 (talk) 15:06, 30 December 2023 (EST)

Not at all and a happy new year to you too. --Mavmaramis (talk) 16:27, 30 December 2023 (EST)

Harry Harrison / West of Eden

I am editing an PVing West of Eden and will add month: 1985-07-00 and state source: Galactic Central Bibliography Teallach (talk) 13:23, 3 January 2024 (EST)

Carry on but since those are minor edits you don't really need to inform me. --Mavmaramis (talk) 14:32, 3 January 2024 (EST)

The Martian Chronicles

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?353769

hiya mate Ive got this book and i'm asking the pvs about a couple of issues. the first one is just that 2 of the contents are out of order ie "The old ones" and "the martian" theyre on the same page but old ones should come first. The second one relates to the fact that the stories are all prefixed by a date in the contents and before the story itself. In this book there is no colon or hyphen and all the contents entries leave out the date except the last one which uses the variant with the date. for consistency i'd like to swap it out for the variant without the date. cheers from Gaz

Proceed. --Mavmaramis (talk) 10:38, 21 January 2024 (EST)

Robert (A.) Heinlein / The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress

I am editing and PVing The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. In my copy, the author's name is stated as "Robert Heinlein" on the title page even though it's "Robert A. Heinlein" on cover and spine. So I propose to change the author's name and add a corresponding pub note. Is your copy the same? Teallach (talk) 18:34, 21 January 2024 (EST)

Mine is the same. Proceed. --Mavmaramis (talk) 00:21, 22 January 2024 (EST)

Sphere Cities of Wonder

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5872641; If your copy has readable prices on the back you can erase my note after approval and enter them all; also, pre-decimal price, if there is one, should be added to price field because it's a 1970 book before the switch to decimal prices. --Username (talk) 12:10, 26 January 2024 (EST)

Right prices on back cover are thus: Australia 1.00c; New Zealand 85c; UK 6/- (30p); South Africa 75c; East Africa 7/25. Hope that helps. --Mavmaramis (talk) 15:02, 26 January 2024 (EST)
OK, thanks, I cancelled old edit and made new edit; https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5872984. --Username (talk) 16:57, 26 January 2024 (EST)

Star Maker

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?269259

hello there i'm asking the active pvs to have a quick shufti at this one re the pages field. In my copy the last numbered page is 264 which is the lsat page of the note on magnitude essay. After that theres the 3 pages of time scale diagrams followed by a load of magnum adverts so i'm thinking it should be 264+[3]? That time scale diagram sequence has been entered as contents for the 2003 sf masterworks edition so it could be imported here as well if you think its worth it. cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 19:57, 7 February 2024 (EST)

Mine is the same. You could add a note about the additional pages after the diagrams having adverts. --Mavmaramis (talk) 23:55, 7 February 2024 (EST)

The Year's Best SF 1972

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?286137

hiya mate, just to let you know that i'm going to import the 4 cartoons on p87-90 that are already entered in the other editions of this title. cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 17:47, 15 February 2024 (EST)

Ive just noticed the map on p45 in the first sphere edition so that's gone for import as well, Gaz Faustus (talk) 18:00, 15 February 2024 (EST)

Ultima Thule

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?367484; Fixed story's # to 69. --Username (talk) 12:40, 26 February 2024 (EST)

Robert A. Heinlein

Please see this edit I am holding that impacts your verified pub. The Internet Archive link being added shows a pub with "Paul Harris Publishing" on the title page, but "Taplinger Publishing Company" on the dust jacket. Does that match your version? There are other Internet Archive versions ([1], [2]) which have the same cover, but have Taplinger also on the title page. What does your jacket say? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:07, 2 March 2024 (EST)

My copy is entirely Paul Harris Publishing. Logo on dustwrapper spine and Paul Harris Publishing on title page. So not a Taplinger edition. Hope that helps. --Mavmaramis (talk) 16:17, 2 March 2024 (EST)
Edit has been rejected. I'm not sure if there was some weird edition that had a Paul Harris tile page with a Taplinger dust jacket or if someone just inadvertently swapped covers on the two editions. Thanks for checking. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:47, 7 March 2024 (EST)
My guess would be that the submitter has an edition that had a Taplinger dustwrapper put onto a Paul Harris edition. I see a lot of books sold via ABE without dustwrappers and then there are lists for dustwrappers only. --Mavmaramis (talk) 15:52, 7 March 2024 (EST)

Gilgamesh the King

I'm holding this submission which impacts your verified pub. Does your edition have the separate afterword? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:22, 9 March 2024 (EST)

Yes indeed it does. Starts on p.298. --Mavmaramis (talk) 15:01, 9 March 2024 (EST)
I approved the edit. You may wish to add the page number for the novel start. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:39, 9 March 2024 (EST)

Horror: 100 Best Books

Hi. There may be an error in the contents of the publication you've PV'd. Could you check & chime in here with what you've got in your copy? Thanks! MagicUnk (talk) 14:25, 25 March 2024 (EDT)

The Science Fiction Source Book

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?513492

hiya mate, could you have a look at this one, ive just done a pv for it and the contents info doesnt tally with my book. "A Brief History" by Aldiss on p10 is missing. "SF Criticism" is on p294. "Criticism Checklist" is on p297. If yours is the same then i'll make the changes. cheers - Gaz Faustus (talk) 08:13, 2 April 2024 (EDT)

The Aldiss item is indeed on p.10 and the other two items are the same as my copy. Procede with your changes. --Mavmaramis (talk) 12:01, 2 April 2024 (EDT)

Shores of Death

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?147341; I added Archive.org link in a PENDING edit. A couple of prices on back are covered by a sticker so if you'd like you can enter prices from your copy in notes; also, since it's a 1970 UK book, per ISFDB pre-decimal rules, the price should be 5/- and not £0.25. --Username (talk) 15:36, 3 April 2024 (EDT)

Burroughs / (A) Princess of Mars

I am editing and PVing A Princess of Mars and propose to:
1) Change title to "Princess of Mars" as per title page and do the varianting
2) Create coverart record "Princess of Mars" by Bruce Pennington (already credited in notes) and variant it to the existing coverart record "A Princess of Mars" by Bruce Pennington
3) Change the note "Nine digit ISBN" to "ISBN derived from 9 digit SBN". The current note gives the impression that the book is stating an invalid ISBN
4) Add a note that the Foreword on page 5 is "in universe" fiction and forms part of the novel (and thus should not appear in the Contents).
5) Add other minor pub notes; some minor corrections of typos
Is all this ok with you? Teallach (talk) 18:43, 9 April 2024 (EDT)

No problems. Procede. --Mavmaramis (talk) 00:04, 10 April 2024 (EDT)

Best SF of the Year 15

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209497

hiya mate youre the only other permanent pv for this one so i'm checking to see if you mind if i change a couple of the contents to different variants that are already on the db.. The "Bluff" story is down as by eric g. iverson but in the book its by Turtledove under his own name. the Benford storyis down as "Space-Time" when it should be "Space/Time". cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 22:47, 10 April 2024 (EDT)

Matches my copy. Please procede. --Mavmaramis (talk) 01:25, 11 April 2024 (EDT)
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