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Same question for library sources which are not OCLC - due to their policies, some library sources may have better information than OCLC - DNB often has a month for the German books, some others may record even dates - none of that gets into OCLC even when OCLC links the record. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:27, 18 January 2022 (EST) | Same question for library sources which are not OCLC - due to their policies, some library sources may have better information than OCLC - DNB often has a month for the German books, some others may record even dates - none of that gets into OCLC even when OCLC links the record. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:27, 18 January 2022 (EST) | ||
: I would also add publisher social media accounts as a source, that in some cases can be more accurate than catalogues or websites. The former suffer from long lead times and so might not reflect reschedulings (e.g. [https://webservices.macmillan.com/macmillan-us/maccatalog/assets/current/TOR_Winter-2022_05_2021.pdf the current Tor US catalogue] looks to have been produced in May 2021 going off the filename); the latter may not be properly maintained (e.g. [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Zapp#Undoing_the_pub_note_edit_on_a_Brave_New_World_pub_you_secondary_verified Penguin UK]). In theory at least, publisher accounts on Twitter (and presumably FB, etc) should be pretty up-to-date; I usually check the UK ones every Thursday/Friday as they tweet anything they've published that day. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 14:27, 18 January 2022 (EST) | : I would also add publisher social media accounts as a source, that in some cases can be more accurate than catalogues or websites. The former suffer from long lead times and so might not reflect reschedulings (e.g. [https://webservices.macmillan.com/macmillan-us/maccatalog/assets/current/TOR_Winter-2022_05_2021.pdf the current Tor US catalogue] looks to have been produced in May 2021 going off the filename); the latter may not be properly maintained (e.g. [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Zapp#Undoing_the_pub_note_edit_on_a_Brave_New_World_pub_you_secondary_verified Penguin UK]). In theory at least, publisher accounts on Twitter (and presumably FB, etc) should be pretty up-to-date; I usually check the UK ones every Thursday/Friday as they tweet anything they've published that day. [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 14:27, 18 January 2022 (EST) | ||
| + | :: Yeah - media accounts and other official accounts on mass sites - I was thinking if these fall under websites/catalogs or if we want to call them out separately. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:36, 18 January 2022 (EST) | ||
Revision as of 15:36, 18 January 2022
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No Publication Date
We have one more special date:
- 9999-00-00 - when the book is rescheduled for the future but does not have an exact date yet.
While rarely used, it is an option when a book is added early, looks stable and gets all weird just before publication. Annie 13:17, 18 January 2022 (EST)
Missing sources
Where will Goodreads and other bibliographic projects (FantLab for Russian (and Russian adjacent), databazeknih.cz for Czech and so on) fall into this list? The English language ones (bar Goodreads) are in our verifications list but there is nothing there for the non-English ones (yes, some may cover some books but...)
Same question for library sources which are not OCLC - due to their policies, some library sources may have better information than OCLC - DNB often has a month for the German books, some others may record even dates - none of that gets into OCLC even when OCLC links the record. Annie 13:27, 18 January 2022 (EST)
- I would also add publisher social media accounts as a source, that in some cases can be more accurate than catalogues or websites. The former suffer from long lead times and so might not reflect reschedulings (e.g. the current Tor US catalogue looks to have been produced in May 2021 going off the filename); the latter may not be properly maintained (e.g. Penguin UK). In theory at least, publisher accounts on Twitter (and presumably FB, etc) should be pretty up-to-date; I usually check the UK ones every Thursday/Friday as they tweet anything they've published that day. ErsatzCulture 14:27, 18 January 2022 (EST)
- Yeah - media accounts and other official accounts on mass sites - I was thinking if these fall under websites/catalogs or if we want to call them out separately. Annie 14:36, 18 January 2022 (EST)