User talk:MLB/Archive/2016Jul-Dec

Night Terrors

Hello, I've approved your submission but tweaked it a bit. I've tried to follow this example, hope it's OK for you. Hauck 10:29, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

No, it's all good to me. I was unsure as how to do this, now I know. Practice will make perfect. I suspect that this type of internet serial is going to become more common as time goes by. So thanks. MLB 19:21, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Tantalizing Locked Room Mysteries

Hello, I've approved your submission but changed publisher to simply "Walker & Co." and deleted Doyle's text which is flagged as nongenre. Hauck 09:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Okay. It's all good. The Sherlock Holmes stories are on this site, but I don't know why. That's why I listed Doyle's story. MLB 14:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

There are closet fans of SH everywhere ;-). Hauck 14:10, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Ha! MLB 23:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Blizzard

Your ISBN problem is likely caused by the fact that G&D usually use "448" as prefix not "443", For the time being, I've regularized the ISBN to "0-448-12250-2", if you confirm "0-443-12250-2", you'll have to add "#" before the ISBN and note the fact in the notes. Hauck 05:55, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, they use yours on Amazon, so I'll keep it as you corrected it. MLB 19:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

The Little Wax Doll

Hi Mark, it's no harm to add your note to the moderator re. the gutter code to the note for The Little Wax Doll, which I've done. Any bibliographic information is useful! Thanks. PeteYoung 07:03, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Now I know. MLB 18:23, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Artist credit from secondary source

Hello, note that, when crediting artist from a secondary source, you should use the canonical name (so "W. F.Phillips" instead of "W. Francis Phillipps"). Hauck 19:04, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Still so much to learn. I just used the name credited on the webpage. However, now I know. MLB 22:07, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Gloryhits publisher

Hi. I accepted your Gloryhits addition, but I'm wondering if the publisher should be Del Rey / Ballantine / BOMC (which we already had) rather than Del Rey / Ballantine / BCE (which was newly created by your submission), given the "Book-of-the-Month Club Alternate" statement. --MartyD 02:06, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll Change it. MLB 02:53, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Undone Deeds

In Undone Deeds it is stated that the Publication Date (2012-01-31) is derived from Amazon. Shouldn't it be 2012-02-00 to match the Copyright Page which says February 2012? AndyjMo 14:41, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Yeah. Mine's in storage, but I'll take your word for it. This was an early edit, and the entry already existed and I wasn't as diligent in checking the existing facts. If you want to change it I'll move myself to transient verifier. MLB 16:01, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

No problems, I'll change the entry. --AndyjMo 16:44, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Red Ryder and the Mystery of Whispering Walls

Hello, I've deleted the record for this novel as the author (in his multiple alias) is not above the threshold and your addition is the first of its kind, a trend that is IMHO not to be followed. Of course, I may be wrong in my analysis so don't hesitate to present the matter in the appropriate place. Hauck 06:30, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Hmmm, lemme see. He published fifty-eight pieces of short fiction, seven novels, not counting juveniles, in a career that lasted from 1935-1966. Thirty-one years is a pretty hefty length of time for somebody to write science fiction. Value of his fiction aside, something that I won't judge on this site, what does it take to have a non-genre work by a genre writer listed when one's career is that long. Lesser writers have had their non-genre writings listed, I think Winterbotham has earned his odd western listed. If not, what is the threshold?

And no, I'm not unique, there are hundreds of examples on this site. MLB 20:07, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm not judging the literary merits of the author, you're perfectly right that's it's not a criteria. When I wrote "your addition is the first of its kind", I was refering to the fact that you're the first to try to enter one non-genre title for this specific author, not in general. For the threshold question, the wikipedia entry seems to imply that he's a kind of "general-purpose" author not essentially known for its SF (note how he's first presented as a western writer), this is our usual defintion of the threshold (an author that is first a SF one). Roughly, if we were to enter all of Winterbotham's (and his pseudonyms's) works, the SF part would be the minority which is the basis of my interpretation. Hauck 20:39, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

His Wiki page is pretty near useless, this site is better, but still not great, although the latter does mention his juveniles. The Wiki site lists only sixteen novels, seven of which are already on this site. His non-genre short fiction is not in question as these would never be listed on this site. I suspect that more must be known of this man's career to make a solid judgement, as his speculative juveniles should be here, but I don't have, or have ever seen, them. I'm not that old, most appeared seventeen years before I was even a sparkle in my momma's eye. (I was born the same year C. M. Kornbluth and Henry Kuttner died)

While I would like this novel on this site, I'm not going fight my Waterloo over it. I'll just take my frustrations out in the kitchen where I can beat some eggs and whip some cream. You get to make the decision, I don't, that's why as a moderator you make all big bucks. Anyway, I just got my Analog and my Asimov's so I'll be busy with those later. MLB 21:27, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I still do no recieve my last copies (snail mail to France). Hauck 05:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

(outdent) 'Above the threshold' is a relative measure that different editors have different opinions on. However, it is the best we can do. As Hauck referenced above, you can always make a case for inclusion at ISFDB:Community Portal. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:32, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Best Ghost Stories of M. R. James

Regarding your edit to Best Ghost Stories of M. R. James: I would like to confirm that the introduction is explicitly credited to "The Publishers" since that is unusual. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:25, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Indeed. It wasn't until I had put the page numbers into the databank that I realized that this book didn't have the Preface that this book was supposed to have, and that the Introduction wasn't the Preface under a different name. If you go here, you will see a (bad) scan of the two Introduction pages. MLB 01:34, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me, I got a new scanner, and I can't help playing with my new toy. MLB 01:34, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

No problem. ;-) Thanks for confirming. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Borges in EQMM

I'm moving the various translations of some of Jorge Luís Borges' stories to their own title records where I can determine the translator. You have a verified issue of Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine that contains his story "The Garden of Forking Paths". I suspect this is the Anthony Boucher translation that was first published in EQMM in 1948. Could you check if the magazine has any credit for the translator. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 21:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes it is. MLB 04:38, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Jerry Schneider Enterprises / Fiction House Press

You submitted a web page update for this publisher at "www.pulptalespress.com". But the phrase "Fiction House Press" occurs nowhere on the entire pulptalespress web site. (And "Jerry Schneider Enterprises" appears only with the copyright on the page.) So I don't see how that could be a proper web site for that publisher. Chavey 02:42, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay, stand back, this is going to get complicated. Jerry Schneider is behind at least a half-dozen or more imprints, including Pulp Tales Press and Fiction House Press, and he uses them indiscriminately. Comet facsimile #4's copyright page lists Pulp Tales Press and that it's part of Jerry Schneider Enterprises LLC, while Comet facsimile reprint #2 lists Pulp Tales Press as being an imprint of Fiction House Press. When I listed a ton of facsimile reprints from their website on this site I often just simplified the publisher as Pulp Tales Press. On Amazon, Schneider's reprints are often just listed as being published by "CreateSpace".

If you go to this site you will see just how many imprints his books are published under. Some are listed on his site under one imprint, then on Amazon under another. Migraines ensue.

Print-on-demand publishers, ain't they fun? It's enough to discombobulate the sanest of us all. MLB 03:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

I approved your change, and included much of what you said above in the note for the publisher. I also added "fictionhousepress.com" as a link for that publisher. Chavey 03:13, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Eva

Cover artist for this pub is Gary Smith, same cover as here. --Zapp 18:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up on that. I've merged everything. MLB 19:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

"The Diamond Maker"

The addition of "The Diamond Maker" to The Original Arthur B. Reeve: Craig Kennedy Scientific Detective Book 1 has been approved. All ready for merges! Ahasuerus 20:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Starwind Magazine, Autumn 1976

Hello, Are you sure there is no missing decimal point in the price of Starwind Magazine, Autumn 1976? The other issue from the same magazine is 1.50 which is a lot more believable than $150 in 1976. Can you check your verified copy? Contento1 has it as 1.50 and despite the weird font, in the copy of the cover it looks weird but still 1.50 to me. If you insist on keeping it like that because of the way they printed the cover, I think we need at least a note. What do you think? I will also point the other verifier to here so we have the discussion in one place. Thanks Anniemod 02:32, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

You have discovered my secret ninja superpower. The ability to create typos where none should be! I'll fix this immediately! MLB 04:18, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad that error of price was addressed; now I can cross it off my list of things to take care of:). while you're correcting typos, here's some more things you may want to look at and evaluate:

• Page 14 - In the story title, the word 'In' should not be capitalized , also for the interior art title.
• Page 30 - If this is a cartoon it should be indexed, credited or not
• Page 43 - In the essay title, the word 'that' should be capitalized
• Page 53 - The interior art[3] for Birthplace of Creation is not indexed

There are several pages where reordering (2, 8, 16, 32, 65 ) records could be used but that can be done at some other time. That's all I found. Syzygy 09:41, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

It'll take me a few days to get to my copy and correct these. If you want, as you are primary verifier #2, you can feel free to correct them. MLB 02:32, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Ha. :) It happens - I almost closed the tab when my mind started screaming that something looks very weird. Figured I should check with you :) Anniemod 18:06, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, unless it had gold staples $150 is a bit steep. MLB 23:40, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

I have made all the changes as listed above with the exception of page 30. If you want to take a look at that when you get your copy out, I'll leave it to you if you want to index that or not, or if you do, list it as interior art or call it a cartoon. Syzygy 12:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Death's Rival

Would you like me to replace the Amazon image for Death's Rival with a scan of the actual book. There is a slight difference to the covers, my copy has the ROC logo at the bottom right of the picture? --AndyjMo 19:29, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Sure, go right ahead. Amazon often uses promotional materials instead of the actual images. I look forward to seeing your version. MLB 23:12, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

The Pluck of O'Reilly

FYI, I have changed the 'storylen' value of this title from novelette to short story. It's only 6,520 words as per Smashwords, which is below our 7,500 word threshold. Ahasuerus 01:36, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks. MLB 02:42, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, September 2016

Hi. Regarding your verified above, my copy, on p. 5, says "Printed by Trend Offset Printing, Jacksonville, FL U.S.A. (6/27/16)". Is yours different?
Also, shouldn't "Progress Report" start on p.8, the same as the interior art?
Also, "Dreams of the Rocket Men" starts on p.83.
On p. 109, shouldn't the reviewed work be spelled "Arabella of Mars", not "Arabela..."? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 07:18, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

In order: No, yer right, yes, yes, and yes. Now excuse me. I'm going to go and kick myself, and then correct my cretinous mistakes. MLB 02:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

<kick> <ow, ow>. MLB 02:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

heh heh Doug / Vornoff 03:53, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Treasures of Fantasy

I had to do a hard reject of your edit to Treasures of Fantasy. I was able to copy the content of your edit and updated the record for you so nothing was lost. A hard reject is caused when the record has been changed by another edit and the software cannot reconcile the differences. In this case, I believe you had earlier submitted merges. When changing a publication, it is safer to wait for the publication change to be approved before modifying the contents (or vs. versus). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:32, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Czarnoksiężnik

Hello MLB. I have approved your submission, but had to touch it up a bit : 1) the "Transliterated Title" field is for transcriptions only, not translations; 2) The translation of the Polish title is "The Wizard", even though the English title is "The Shape of Illusion"; 3) I had to remove the synopsis in Polish, as this should be in English. It would be better, in my opinion, to find one in this language, and put it on the English title page ! Thanks, Linguist 07:43, 26 August 2016 (UTC).

No sweat, I have found one… Linguist 08:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC).

Well, it looks like your job as moderator is still safe. Still so much to learn. MLB 13:26, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Planet Stories, Spring 1940 / The Man Who Killed WHAT?

Hi, In your verified copy of Planet Stories, Spring 1940 there is a story 'The Man Who Killed the Earth'. That is only true for the TOC however. The story that begins on page 94 is 'The Man Who Killed the World'.--Dirk P Broer 11:18, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Oh . . . crap! Will change. MLB 20:47, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Barrie excerpts

I am wondering why, in Masterpieces of Fantasy and Wonder, you titled the excerpts from The Little White Bird things like "The Thrush's Nest (excerpt)". To me that suggests an excerpt from something called The Thrush's Nest; I would expect this novel-excerpt to be titled simply "The Thrush's Nest" and have a note that it's an excerpt. If I am wrong about that, never mind; I am new around here and not familiar with the conventions. --Vasha77 19:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

• You talk to me like Eye know what I'm doing. Talk to the moderators and they will quickly disillusion you of that concept. ;-). If I remember correctly, Masterpieces of Fantasy and Wonder and its contents were already listed, I just added the notes, page numbers, and cover art.
• If something is excerpted from a larger work, then it is listed as an excerpt. If, however, it is excerpted and printed as a separate work, then it is listed as a separate work. I.e., if chapters two and three were lifted from The Hobbit and given a new title then it would be listed as a new work, but a note would posted as that this was an excerpt, but if it was listed as The Hobbit in the book then "(excerpt)" would be added on to the title and a note listed in the notes field. At least that's what I think are the rules. As I said, I didn't list the stories, give me a little while to dig this book out of storage and see what's what with it. Confused yet? Wait until you start tracking down fly-by-night print-on-demand publishers!
• I'm no expert in all of this, I'm constantly getting it wrong, so I could be wrong about all of this. Lemme check.
• Oh, and I've never read Barrie, yet, so I'm no expert in this author's works. MLB 22:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

In this volume (Masterpieces of Fantasy and Wonder), the three excerpts are titles separately as "Peter Pan", "The Thrush's Nest", and "Lock-out Time". I have not ever read The Little White Bird, and I don't have a copy of it, so I can't check, but these titles are similar in style to those found in Peter Pan and Wendy. Based on that, I suspect these are the chapter titles from that book, and the brief intro paragraph at the beginning of "Peter Pan" indicates that is the most likely the case ("This selection of chapters..."). This is the first case where I've seen title chapters used as excerpts, so I am not sure what they would be called. I would post over on the Rules and standards discussions board to see what people think. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Looks like Vasha77 has already done this, I'm going to wait and see if anybody chimes in with any comments. MLB 23:32, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

MartyD thinks that the "(excerpt)" should be removed from those chapter titles. If it's all right with you two, I'll go ahead and do that. --Vasha77 02:45, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Entering NOVELs

Hello, please do not manually add a NOVEL record when entering a publication (as for The Culled) the system does this for you automatically. If you do this, you end up with two NOVELS, needing an intervention to straighten things up. I supposed that you wished to add the starting page number of the novel in one go, alas it's not possible. Hauck 16:01, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Very sorry, won't do it again. MLB 16:25, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

October 2016 Analog

I have one of your submissions on hold. There were two in a row, and the one on hold looks to me like a double-submission of the first, which resulted in this. I didn't want to reject it, though, in case I'm missing something. If it did get doubled, please cancel it. Otherwise, let me know and I'll accept it. Thanks. --MartyD 02:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

No, they're the same. I'll cancel one, add columns and series, and correct Don Sakers name. MLB 03:38, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

October 2016 Analog

I have one of your submissions on hold. There were two in a row, and the one on hold looks to me like a double-submission of the first, which resulted in this. I didn't want to reject it, though, in case I'm missing something. If it did get doubled, please cancel it. Otherwise, let me know and I'll accept it. Thanks. --MartyD 02:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Non-genre texts in non-genre magazines

Hello, I've deleted the record for The Crack of Doom as it's a non-genre text in a non-genre magazine and so is outside our scope. Hauck 15:32, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Alright, no problem. MLB 16:58, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, October 2016

I submitted a change for "Angles of Incidence" by Nancy Fulda because she lists it as fiction on her website. Will you check and make sure? TIA! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

If you go to your closest window and stick your head out the window that won't be thunder you would be hearing, that's me banging my head against a wall. Thanks for finding that flaw. MLB 00:46, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

This issue certainly seems to have a lot of sections on this page. Distant thunder is soothing, don't you think? ;) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 12:54, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

It looks like I'm gonna up with brain damage before this all done with. MLB 06:00, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, October 2016

Hi Mark. More good news: In your verified Analog Science Fiction and Fact, October 2016 you have 216 pp and it's actually 116. In your On Sale Till note, I think you've got an extra "the" or "this". You missed the story "Mom in the Moon" on p. 63. Cheers, Doug / Vornoff 07:14, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

To be corrected. Don't know how I missed the short story. MLB 06:03, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm curious, I haven't read much of Adam-Troy Castro, so do you know if the story The Soul Behind the Face is part of his Andrea Cort series? A series that has been appearing regularly in Analog. MLB 06:17, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, not off hand. My memory is lousy. I'd have to go back over the stories to see. Doug / Vornoff 22:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Artist Sokoli

Hi Mark. In your verified Captain Future, Winter 1944 you have interior artwork on p.93 credited to Sokoli. I'm guessing this was from the signature, as this is how Joseph Szokoli sometimes signed his art, as can be seen here. Would you like to make a pseudonym out of Sokoli and variant his interiorart record to the parent? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 01:14, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

It'll take me a couple of days to do anything about this. I know where this issue is, I think, but it's where it's difficult to get at right now. The problems of having damaged legs I'm afraid. MLB 06:31, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

No problem. Sorry about your legs - we've all got our stuff, don't we? Doug / Vornoff 14:18, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Well, with all of my typos you'd think I was blind. However, checking my copy which I finally found, I see I was right. It was Sokoli. Will make it a pseudonym. Pronto! MLB 01:24, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

A. McWilliams / Alden McWilliams

Hi Mark. Alden McWiliams (Al McWilliams) is the same person as A. McWiliams, as seen here and other websites. I've pseudonymed A. McWilliams to Alden but that leaves a string of titles that normally would need to be varianted. So my question is: You have verified titles attributed to A. McWilliams on this list. If that was by actual credit, they should be varianted to Alden but if it was by a signature only, the name should be changed to Alden McWilliams, as I see it by our rules. Here are the ones you've verified, could you check them and make any changes? Sorry to burden you with this but I thought it was the right thing to do to. I'm sending this out to RTrace, Krang and Rkihara, who have different issues with the same situation.
Black Priestess of Varda (2) in Planet Stories Winter 1947 (reprint)

I've checked the reprint of these in Pulp Vault and they are credited by signature alone. Feel free to change the title if Rkihara agrees. I've left this same note on his page. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 14:02, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Me, Myself and I in Planet Stories, Winter 1947 (reprint)
SOS Aphrodite in Planet Stories, Summer 1949 (reprint)
Stalemate in Space in ditto.
Let the Ants Try in Planet Stories, Winter 1949 (reprint)
The Dead-Star Rover in ditto.
The Night Has a Thousand Eyes in ditto.
Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm a believer that an artist, and a writer, should be listed as they want to be. This doesn't mean the works can't be varianted, but if we list an artist by another name other than how they sign their work how will they or their work be found on this site? This is, I think, a question that should be asked. Shouldn't an artist be treated the same way an author is treated? MLB 23:45, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

My reason for bothering you all with this is I was trying to abide by what several moderators have advised me to do and that that method has become "the standard", as apparently it's not actually in the Help. I get a sense people don't really want to implement major Help changes. Your way seems as valid as the other way. I guess it boils down to editor's choice. Doug / Vornoff 00:56, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Doug, I'm not trying to be difficult, although it seems like I am. I'll go back and change mine, 'cuz I did go and look them up. It seems McWilliams signed all of the work of his that I have as A. McWilliams, so, why don't I just create a pseudonym page and variant them? Problem solved. Anybody looking for A. McWilliams' work will find it, and we won't have two separate entries for the same artist. Let me know if this is okay. MLB 04:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Oh a pseudonym listing was already made. Anyway, all have been varianted. MLB 04:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Mark - Doug / Vornoff 05:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2016

Added a note about the cover of Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2016.SFJuggler 22:06, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Okay, cool. MLB 23:48, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, June 2013

I put a note to the cover for this pub and changed the artist's name. --Zapp 19:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
And here, too. --Zapp 19:37, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Okay, good work. MLB 02:45, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

To the Dark Tower

I approved your edit to Long's To the Dark Tower. However, I changed the publisher back to "Lancer". We have Lancer Easy Eye as a publication series of Lancer rather than a separate imprint. We can discuss further if you disagree, but that's how the others have been handled. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 01:53, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

No discussions needed. I'm good with it being done that way. MLB 02:31, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Ride the Star Winds

Hi, In our data base we have two verified records for Ride the Star Winds: one which credits the cover art to Stephen Hickman -who also did three earlier issues in the Baen Omnibusses- and one that credits the cover art to Alan Pollack, who also did the last two of those Omnibusses. Judges by the cover art of these six titles I am inclined to think that it should be Alan Pollack in both cases of Ride the Star Winds, but could you please check?--Dirk P Broer 13:12, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Sez Hickman. Curiously enough, I seem to have the same effect on women that Grimes on the cover has. ;-) MLB 06:00, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

WW publication series

Hello, I've deleted the WW publication series. It doesn't look like one and the data is in the notes. Hauck 08:45, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Now I know. MLB 21:38, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Cover art found

Changed the cover artist of this pub since I found the artwork. --Zapp 10:54, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

So I did here. --Zapp 13:34, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Pulitzer

Added notes and a cover scan to Pulitzer.SFJuggler 16:56, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Was there no cover art? Just asking. This is not the first time art linked to Amazon has just "Disappeared". MLB 02:59, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Angels Unaware

Added notes and cover scan to Angels Unaware.SFJuggler 17:23, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Heat Wave

Added notes and cover scan to Heat Wave.SFJuggler 18:36, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Cemetery Dance #74-75

Hello, can you please link the reviews in this pub? If it's not possible, either transform the REVIEW into an ESSAY or enter the reviewed books. All this appears on diverse cleanup reports. Thanks. Hauck 17:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Cemetery Dance #74/75

Re this issue: I've corrected the page count to include the covers (from 194 to 196), changed "#74-75" to "#74/75" as it appears in the publication (a dash is used for month dating, not issue dating), and added an essay record for the first title reviewed by Datlow (page 131). I also merged this record's editor title record with that of the other issue from 2016. Mhhutchins|talk 17:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, this is why even the best of us, which I am not need a good editor. Also, it's good to hear from you again. MLB 20:08, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

The Spectre Bride

Your verified Gothic Short Stories contains the story "The Spectre Bride" (page 32). Would you mind if this is the same story as this story? If it is, records 1341769 and 831682 should be merged. If it is not, could you please add the first line to the title record (similar to what is at 831682) to differentiate the two stories. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Ah yes, one of my first edits. Don't know right now where that book is. After my mother's death last January, I gave some stuff away, put some stuff into storage, and stuff I already had in storage got shifted to the back and stuff was stored in front of this other stuff. I quoted the introduction as saying that the story might be by William Harrison Ainsworth. With winter coming up it will probably take a while to find it if I have it stored off-site from my house. I'm sorry if I seem uncooperative. MLB 00:13, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

No problem. That is certainly understandable. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:09, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Collection vs. Omnibus

I accepted your edit to Encounters, but changed the type to collection. If it only has short fiction (which novellas would qualify), it would be a collection. An omnibus requires one of the contents to be a novel, collection, anthology, or nonfiction. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:05, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Well, now I know. MLB 02:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Original cover photo found

of this pub and changed cover artist. --Zapp 22:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Excellent. Good detecting. MLB 22:14, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Wheels of Fire

I've changed the Amazon cover art for Wheels of Fire for a scan of my copy and added a few notes. --AndyjMo 18:49, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

The Penguin World Omnibus of Science Fiction

Would you mind checking your primary verified The Penguin World Omnibus of Science Fiction and check the spelling of the name of Lyuben Dilov - is it "y" or "j" as the second letter? Thanks! Anniemod 08:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Changes to your verified publication

Hi -- I have a copy of Werewolves and Shape Shifters: Encounters with the Beasts Within and would like to make some changes. For one thing, the title page reads Werewolves and Shapeshifters: Encounters with the Beast Within; and for another, "Fire Dog" should be listed as by Joe E. Lansdale even though that is a printing error. I will probably find more things as I go through it. Is that all right with you? --Vasha77 00:15, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I have no problem with being corrected. Correct away. MLB 02:42, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I think I did that all in one sitting, my eyes were probably blurring by the time I was done. MLB 02:44, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

"Escape From Hell"

I replaced the Amazon cover for Escape From Hell by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle with a scanned image. Doug H 04:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Natalie Winters covers

Hello, as I've moderated quite a lot of them, please remember to variant them afterwards to the canonical author. Thanks. Hauck 07:44, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Okay. No excuses. Just wanted to merge them first. MLB 21:46, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Angelic Avenger

I accepted your edits to the Angelic Avenger publications. However, you set the cover artist of one to Kanaxa and the other to Angela James, but the displayed cover images are the same. Would you mind double checking this? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:49, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Done. Checked and fixed. MLB 03:46, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

100 Astounding Little Alien Stories

I would like to change a few credits in this verified pub. The introduction is signed as by Stefan Dziemianowicz, not Stefan R. Dziemianowicz and Feeding Time (page 156) is as by James E. Gunn, not James Gunn. Not bad, only 2 out of 101. Any objections? Thanks for checking, --Willem 20:36, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

No, feel free. MLB 21:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Changes made. --Willem 21:51, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Your verified Chibi Vampire: The Novel 1

Hello,

In your verified Chibi Vampire: The Novel 1, the title and pub title do not match - the title seems to be based on the rest of the series while you verified the publication title differently. Do you mind looking it up and figuring out if your publication title is the way to go and I will update the title record based on that? (or if you want to reverse the action, we can update the publication title of course). Thanks! Anniemod 22:27, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

• Anniemod: Quite frankly I don't know where this book is at present. I read it, but can't remember much about it. This is one of first edits here and I was sure I got it right. Even then I was surprised to find that the book had such a bland title. Since this book has gone walkabout, I'll go and change my verification to transient verification. I didn't add the Japanese variantation, so please do what you wish with this entry.

I think that someone changed the title to match the series. I will equalize using your pub title as it was verified. Thanks for answering :) Anniemod 06:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

And one more like that Publication: The Fantastic Island & Danger Lies East: Two Classic Adventures of Doc Savage. If you think that they should stay mismatched, that also can be done of course (but a note is in order I think). Thanks! Anniemod 23:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

• I think I know where this one is at, but it'll take a couple of days to try to find it and see what the problem is. MLB 05:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Not urgent. Thanks! Anniemod 06:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Prodigal's Return

I added the cover artist and a note on the source of that information to you verified pub Prodigal's Return.

There are a lot of holes in the artist credits for these Worldwide paperbacks. Feel free to fill in as many as these holes as you can. MLB 03:14, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Translations of "The Horla"

As you surely know, back in the early days of the DB, different translations of the same story weren't given separate title records, but now this practice has changed. I'm about to sort the various English translations of Guy de Maupassant's "The Horla" into separate title records and wanted to consult you, as a primary verifier, before I do so. Here is the title record for all the publications that haven't been sorted yet, and here is the list I made, of all the translations I know of (thirteen of them) and which publications belong to which. I hope you can contribute some more information.

You verified the following anthologies with the story; I've noted which translation I believe each one is.

A. The Vampire Archives, ed. Otto Penzler. No. 4, uncredited/England.
B. The Devil's Children, ed. Michel Parry. I don't know this one.

For each of these -- and also other publications in the DB if you happen to have them -- could you please confirm that I have correctly identified the translation and/or supply the missing information? Please do that by comparing the first paragraph of the story to the comparison page. Then let me know what exact translator credit is given, if any. And if it's a translation where I don't yet have the first paragraph, I'd like you to add it to that page.

Furthermore, sometimes this story was printed with the subtitle "or Modern Ghosts" and I suspect that this isn't always correctly recorded in the DB. If you see that subtitle (or other title variations) I'd like to know.

Thank you very much for the help! --Vasha 05:17, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Well, the Penzler book has since been donated to my public library, I'll have to change the verification. I'll look for the Parry anthology. Back when I first started editing here there had been a discussion about giving translators a separate credit, but the discussion didn't go anywhere. Still think it's a good idea, but, I just edit here. :) MLB 05:34, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Me, I think it's more than a good idea -- it's information that I (for one) have wanted to know in the past and found extremely hard to discover. Most of the secondary sources (Tuck, Bleiler, etc.) don't name translators consistently or at all. So there's potentially information the DB could contribute that's not readily available anywhere as yet. My experiences researching this one story (I've been working on it for the last three days) show that adding translator information to the DB will be a long, long process. Really a pity it wasn't done from the start. --Vasha 06:39, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

There have been some famous and well-known authors who have done translations. People like Brian Stableford, Anthony Boucher, Damon Knight, and C. J. Cherryh have some substantial translations under their belts, plus, a field for this would also list some professional translators who have done substantial work for the speculative field. Another good example is that the explosion of manga has given us a number of translators that we should know about, like Andrew Cunningham, who have also translated prose novels from Japanese into English. And since this site is quickly becoming more and more global, with editors from America, Canada, the U.K., France, Germany, Austria, Russia, Japan, etc., this is a field a long time needed.

But again, I've only done any editing since 2012, and I'm not sure that I've ever changed any protocols, because I also think that the editors of single author collections, as long as the editor isn't the original author, should be listed. I put them in my notes now, put not always when I started. MLB 10:18, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

I asked a few weeks ago how close we are to getting the translators added as separate records (before I start adding a lot of books in Bulgarian) and the answer was that it may take awhile as there are some decisions and designs that need to be made and evaluated. Here was the conversation: here -- the start anyway - I got a bit off topic at some point. :) Anniemod 10:52, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that pointer. I can see right off why design would be challenging. how do you deal with different forms of the translator's name? Using the current varianting system would't do; that would soon create a totally unmanageable number of title records, making the summary biography unreadable. But there must be some means of adding an [as by] note nonetheless. For one case, there's a translation of "The Horla" by Marjorie Laurie and another one wrongly attributed to her. Sometimes I'm not 100% certain who did the translation, which means that I'd hesitate to put down anything except "uncredited" in that field. And there are multiple uncredited translations, which I want grouped individually, not as a single "uncredited" record. Complicated, complicated, complicated. --Vasha 13:00, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Addendum (I slap myself on the forehead): those issues are essentially all the same as what arises with cover artists. Should be some way of adapting the artist system to translators. And then, too, you wouldn't have a separate title record for each translation, which would certainly be a good thing for the summary bibliographies. You'd go to the translator records to see each translator's publications grouped together. --Vasha 13:32, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

The Veiled Lady

Hello, I've put your submission on hold as it's perhaps interesting to discuss the matter of author's change with the PV1 of the second publication. IMHO a "joint" authorship may be of value. Hauck 10:26, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Greetings! The only reason the Phantom series [being non-genre] is here is because some of the titles tie to Basil Copper. Once the author is changed from Lee Falk, the connection is gone and thus no reason for that title to be listed [at the moment there are only four of ?? titles in the series listed]. I've already deleted the CDN edition, as Shawn should be listed as author, but doesn't qualify for inclusion. The same should be done for the US edition. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:08, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Well, the front cover has a woman being eaten by a giant frog (!), and we know how notoriously accurate book cover art is :). So, until this book is actually read consider it deleted. MLB 21:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

By the way, does anybody know who Frank Shawn is anyway? MLB 21:50, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Sentinels from Space / The Ultimate Invader

I added pub month with explanatory pub note to your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?49021. Markwood 23:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Wild Seed

It seems your submission for adding a publication is a mistake, as we seem to already have it in store (I've put it on hold). Christian Stonecreek 05:01, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I missed this page. I'll delete mine. Sorry. MLB 06:29, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Imago

Hello, I've put your submission on hold as I don't understand why you're not adding a new publication instead of just evoking the 2nd printing in the first printing's note field. Hauck 10:08, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

All I would have been doing is repeating information. Same cover, same price, same ISBN, same pages. I just thought it would have been easier to have noted that the second printing was identical to the first rather than repeating all of the same information. If you want I can create a whole new page if you want. MLB 18:19, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

As we strive to list all publications of a given title even if they are nearly identical (like this one), it's important that you enter the book you own as it's different printing than the one we ahve. By itself its sameness is valuable information. Hauck 18:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

No real argument here. I see the value in such things. It just seemed redundant, but, now I know. I will fix. MLB 00:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

One Salt Sea

I've changed the Cover Art of One Salt Sea and added a few Notes. --AndyjMo 22:10, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The Squares of the City

Hello, I'm not sure that a simple rebinding of this book with strictly the same caracteristics constitutes a new publication. What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 13:08, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Well, I've listed them before, and they've been accepted, I've seen others listed as well. I consider them variants, (I have a couple of rebound Ace Doubles around here somewhere), as are the Scholastic Book Club editions, which are identical to the originals except for the Scholastic name pasted all over them. Better safe than sorry I thought. MLB 17:23, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps should it be entered under "Perma-Bound" like this other one (there is a grand total of three of them). I'm not convinced but as I'm not in the mood for a Nth inconclusive discussion, I'll release your submission for who wants to approve it. Thanks for your input. Hauck 17:30, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I'm not trying to make mischief, I was just entering a book that I had. There are a lot of Turtleback Books out there, and they are, I believe, the same as Perma-Bound bindings. Check out this listing. MLB 02:16, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Enemy Mind

Standardized publisher of Enemy Mind from Silhouette Books to Silhouette. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:07, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

I was wondering about that one. Now I know, thanks. MLB 17:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, December 2016 Reviews

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, December 2016 has two reviews (on page 106) that for works credited to Meg Pontecorvo. However, the second one is for a work "Murder on Marawa Prime" that was not written by Pontecorvo. Instead, it is probably this pub by Vonnie Winslow Crist. Would you mind double checking? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

• • Grump**Grump**Grump** Oh very well, I'll go and check. Hmmm, okay, lemme check. Lemme get to page 106. **Flip**Flip** Ahh, here we go, well Inspector LaTondre, your careful investigations have proved once again that my mother's favorite nitwit is in desperate need of new glasses. You're entirely correct in that the book reviewed was by Vonnie Winslow Crist. I'll change the entry immediately. MLB 06:56, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Isle of the Dolphins

Hello, I took the liberty to change the publisher from "Kangeroo / Pocket Books" to "Kangaroo / Pocket Books" (here). Hope that I was right. Hauck 07:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Yep, it's fine. MLB 08:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Megapack (Wildside) Series

I approved a couple of series additions where it was multiple volumes (ex. Cat Megapack), but I have your remaining ones to create a "Megapack (Wildside)" series on hold. There is already a publication series for the pubs. Looking at them, it does seem they are a publication series and not a title series. Thoughts? -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:05, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

I created this one a couple of years ago, and there are others. I see no reason not to organize these collections/anthologies into a coherent series. I used Megapack (Wildside) as somebody else may use the Megapack name and I wanted the publisher (Wildside) to be identified with this series. These collections have been added gradually to this site, and after this time I thought that organizing them into some coherent findability before they get out of hand (there are a lot more of them) would be a good thing. Also, I didn’t feel like digging out another box of my books to put on this site. I’m lazy. But I just work/edit here, the final word is yours. MLB 02:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

And the Megapack (Wildside) would be the parent series to the other smaller series. If somebody doesn't know the exact title, but did know Megapack, could find all of these pubs in one series. MLB 02:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

We make a distinction between title series and publication series. This would be a publication series which is already a way to organize them. As for someone not knowing the full title, the search function takes care of that. I'm not sure I see the point for bypassing our policies on this one. However, I'll hold off rejecting them if you wish to make a post at ISFDB:Community Portal‎ to seek the larger community opinion. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:49, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

I own none of these and probably won't in the near future, so, if you want, you can delete them, and I'll continue on with something else. Someday you'll have to ask me about my ambivalence towards Wildside. MLB 00:29, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Detective Fiction Weekly

I accepted you addition of Detective Fiction Weekly, August 03, 1953, but made some changes to match ISFDB conventions:

• As it is a magazine, it needs to have the issue date in the title so I changed it from Detective Fiction Weekly to Detective Fiction Weekly, August 03, 1953.
• As it is a non-genre magazine, cover art & cover artist is not entered unless it specifically SF related. I removed the image URL.

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I can only plead that it was late at night and I was tired. I know better. MLB 19:51, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Magic on the Line

I've added a few notes to Magic on the Line. --AndyjMo 18:31, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Non-Genre Magazine Cover Art

I started a rules & standards discussion. Your note to moderator comment is understandable given the current state. Not sure the discussion will resolve everything, but we will see. In the meantime, I will leave your edit on hold. Please feel free to join into the discussion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:42, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

2016 publication of The Garden of Forking Paths

Hi, would you be able to reach your copy of this? I'm wondering if there might be a translator credit, a copyright statement or anything other in this vein to possibly identify the translator for the Borges piece (after all, the story had its first English publication in a 1948 issue of this magazine? Stonecreek 19:37, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

I've already been asked this, so I guess I'm going to have to append the notes. It was translated by Anthony Boucher. MLB 23:48, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Well, it's not been merged accordibgly by the one who asked you, so I'll take the necessary steps. Thanks for taking another look at it! Stonecreek 06:03, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

John C. Winston (Alice omnibus)

Hi. We have a few books published as by John C. Winston rather than John C. Winston Co., including one Alice omnibus that you verified P390680. Momentarily I submit a change in the Publisher field--which should now also move Winston Clear Type Popular Classic Series under the longer name. --Pwendt|talk 20:52, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, January-February 2017

""2016 Index" is an index to all of the fiction and the non-fiction that Analog has published during the year of 2014. It does not list any of this magazine's 2014 artwork, including any of the issue's covers." should really say 2016 everywhere and not 2014 :) Annie 21:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes it should. Thanx. MLB 21:33, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Mark. Also, in your note about the Trend Offset Printing, you've made an unforgivable error in placing them in MA instead of FL. Doug / Vornoff 17:49, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Please note also that there's still an unlinked review. Hauck 17:53, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

***Blush*** So embarrassed. Now fixed. MLB 22:31, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Typo; Heather Brewer

Hi, I think the title of the excerpt Nineth Grade Slays in your verified pub may be a typo.

Also, Heather Brewer has changed his name to Zac Brewer and I'm going to variant all the works to that name --Vasha 01:59, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

The Amethyst Tears publisher

Hi. I accepted The Amethyst Tears, but I changed the publisher from "Beagle / Ballantine Books" to "Beagle Books / Ballantine". We already had the latter with a bunch of pubs, and it also already had the "Birthstone Gothic" series. --MartyD 03:09, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

p.s. I realized after writing this that you gave it a title series of "Birthstone Gothic", while the others all use it as a pub series. I realize it's not clear which is more appropriate. See what you think. We should probably either remove it as a title series from this title or see if the community supports changing the pub series to a title series for the others. --MartyD 03:15, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

p.p.s. I held the other submissions. I'm willing to conduct a poll if you'd rather not. Let me know. --MartyD 03:19, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Don't know what to say. They are a series, just like the Deathlands, Rogue Angel, and others. It's just that the books weren't published under a house name. See what I mean. I might add the others in this series if they have any supernatural content, or to just complete the series. MLB 04:18, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I am not arguing with you. But we have a bunch of verified pubs using it as a pub series instead of a title series. So we need to poll/notify the verifiers before switching it. I'll take care of it and then accept the submissions (and get rid of the pub series). --MartyD 11:37, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Well whatever the consensus agrees to, I'll agree to, no problem. MLB 14:58, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Dec

The following are possible typos in your verified pubs:

• willl - "A journey will I undertake, To Maelgwen's gates I willl come;" in A String in the Harp
• aquaintance - PS's Feature Flash: An Old Aquaintance Well Worth Renewing ... in Planet Stories, Spring 1940
• nineth - Nineth Grade Slays (excerpt) in Eighth Grade Bites

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Will fix. MLB 22:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Done. MLB 19:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC) MLB