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(New page: == Night Terrors == Hello, I've approved your submission but tweaked it a bit. I've tried to follow [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23958 this example], hope it's OK for you. [[User:...)
 
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== Night Terrors ==
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Captain Future, Winter 1941
  
Hello, I've approved your submission but tweaked it a bit. I've tried to follow [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23958 this example], hope it's OK for you. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:29, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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A couple comments on Captain Future, Winter 1941:
:No, it's all good to me.  I was unsure as how to do this, now I know. Practice will make perfect. I suspect that this type of internet serial is going to become more common as time goes by. So thanks. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 19:21, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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The pub notes have an incomplete sent sentence "Cover states that the title of this magazine is" on second line.
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I rejected your variant of "Letter (Captain Future, Winter 1941): Unpleasantries" and instead merged it with the existing variant (based on the prior reprint) as they are identical.
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I have your variant of "Letter (Captain Future, Winter 1941): Another Swerdlow Edorser" on hold. It is likely the prior reprint would have used the same title so I will ask Rtrace to double check the misspelling in that version.
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Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Rtrace confirmed the misspelling was only in the database and merged the two records. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] ASF Jan-Feb 2017
  
== Tantalizing Locked Room Mysteries  ==
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Hello, I've made some slight modifications to this issue. Hauck 11:03, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] rewind
  
Hello, I've approved your submission but changed publisher to simply "Walker & Co." and deleted Doyle's text which is flagged as nongenre. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 09:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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hi i added one unnumbered page to the count for http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?400563 because the about the author is on a lefthand page,therefore must be 159. gzuckier 04:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
:Okay.  It's all good. The Sherlock Holmes stories are on this site, but I don't know why. That's why I listed Doyle's story. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 14:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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Okay, thanx. MLB 07:17, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
::There are closet fans of SH everywhere ;-). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:10, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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[edit] Capitalization
:::Ha! [[User:MLB|MLB]] 23:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 
  
== Blizzard ==
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I have corrected the capitalization of words such as "an", "from", "with", "the" in titles of some of Ian Watson's works. This affects your verified publication Solaris Rising: The New Solaris Book of Science Fiction. In future, do you want to be notified of such capitalization regularizations? --Vasha 08:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Oh no, go right ahead, anything you can do to make me look smarter than I really am. MLB 01:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] One more malicious little mystery
  
Your ISBN problem is likely caused by the fact that G&D usually use "448" as prefix not "443", For the time being, I've regularized the ISBN to "0-448-12250-2", if you confirm "0-443-12250-2", you'll have to add "#" before the ISBN and note the fact in the notes. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 05:55, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hi! I think I have found one more item worth adding to this: Caveat Emptor by Kay Nolte Smith. It features one distinct 'M' who is none other than Mephisto(pheles), as I read it. It should be printed five stories before the two Nolan items that are listed last. Would you like to add it? Stonecreek 15:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
:Well, they use yours on Amazon, so I'll keep it as you corrected it. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 19:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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And then some: I think we consider Barry N. Malzberg as above threshold, so, wouldn't it be better to include all of his stories in this anthology? Stonecreek 20:16, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
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In order:
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•It will take me a couple of days or so to get a hold of the book so if you have a copy of this anthology nearby please feel free to add the Smith story.
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•Yes, I feel he is above the threshold, but, when I have attempted to add above-the-threshold author's stories, including one from Malzberg, from such places as Alfred Hitchcock's and Ellery Queen's they have been rejected. So, while I might verify or re-verify somebody else's listings, I try not to list them anymore. If you want to add the Malzberg story, go ahead, I have no complaints, especially since these non-genre stories tend to end up in these author's collections. MLB 22:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks for the information. It seems you'd have to wait awhile anyway, as there seem to be more items of speculative contents (I'm going slowly through the book, reading 2-3 stories each evening): yesterday I read the one by Elaine Slater which is also science fiction about overpopulation. Alas, I only have a german edition, so I could only place the stories inside your verified copy without noting the beginning page. Maybe that'd be okay and you'll add the pages later? Stonecreek 05:05, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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Sure. I only skimmed the anthology which is why I put in my notes that there might be other speculative fictions here. Put the stories in as you find them. I'll put the numbers in later. MLB 06:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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I have added some items and will do so when I come across more. I'll post a final message when I have read the book in its entirety. Stonecreek 07:13, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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Ready, steady, go! Finally, I got through the book and included the lot. It seems, though, that The Witches in the Closet by Anne Chamberlain has no speculative content. It's more a story on a mental breakdown: the protagonist's wife believes that there are witches in a closet / wardrobe, but there's no evidence for that. What's your opinion? Stonecreek 05:05, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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Would it be okay to remove (and then delete) said story? Stonecreek 05:07, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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As I said, I only skimmed the anthology but you actually read it, so, if you feel the story should be deleted and that there is no speculative content then go right ahead and delete it. MLB 09:05, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks, Mark! I'll wait for some other answers on the topic until the weekend and then hopefully go ahead. Christian Stonecreek 09:21, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2015
  
== ''The Little Wax Doll'' ==
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I guess Getty Images as a platform should not be given as cover artist at this pub. The creative part is from CSA Images, see here. Unfortunately there is no name of a person to find. Only Pop Ink - CSA Images. --Zapp 14:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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I'll go with your expertise in this. MLB 09:46, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Thomas or Timons Esaias in Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May 2016"?
  
Hi Mark, it's no harm to add your note to the moderator re. the gutter code to the note for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?578389 The Little Wax Doll], which I've done. Any bibliographic information is useful! Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 07:03, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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Would you check your verified Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May 2016 and see if the author of "Postulate 2" might be Timons Esaias instead of Thomas Esaias? Thanks. --MartyD 02:23, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
:Okay, thanks. Now I know. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 18:23, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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Evidently I must of typed this up using my feet instead of my hands. But it's been corrected. MLB 11:59, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Closing Lists
  
== Artist credit from secondary source ==
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When closing HTML lists, you need to use "</u>". The last couple of your pub edits have had "<u>" at the end which starts a new list and causes the pub to not display correctly. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:13, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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Sorry, I deserve a good slap for that mistake. MLB 00:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Asimov's
  
Hello, note that, when crediting artist from a secondary source, you should use the canonical name (so "W. F.Phillips" instead of "W. Francis Phillipps"). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 19:04, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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I have added story lengths to the Oct-Nov 2016 issue of Asimov's. --Vasha 23:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
:Still so much to learn.  I just used the name credited on the webpage.  However, now I know.  [[User:MLB|MLB]] 22:07, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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[edit] Filled in missing info for Analog issues
  
== ''Gloryhits'' publisher ==
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Hi, a few story lengths got overlooked in 2016 issues of Analog (October, November) & I added them from online sources. --Vasha 03:05, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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I can't understand how I got that wrong, but thanks for the help. MLB 06:44, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Insomniacs chapbooks
  
Hi.  I accepted your {{P|578432|Gloryhits}} addition, but I'm wondering if the publisher should be '''Del Rey / Ballantine / BOMC''' (which we already had) rather than '''Del Rey / Ballantine / BCE''' (which was newly created by your submission), given the "Book-of-the-Month Club Alternate" statement. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 02:06, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, it seems you transformed the contender NOVELs into SHORTFICTIONs, when it'd be correct to transform them to CHAPBOOKs and add the respecrive SHORTFICTIONs. Now the contender CHAPBOOKs have to be added to the individual publications. Christian Stonecreek 14:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
:I'll Change it. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:53, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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[edit] Chapbooks without Contents Titles
  
== Undone Deeds ==
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Hello, there are five CHAPBOOKS (Insomniacs series) without contents titles that you PVed and that show up on our cleanup report, please correct them (note that they also had a length and a series info which is not allowed, I've corrected that). Hauck 13:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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Well, let's hope I got it right this time. Then I gotta add the series data. MLB 00:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
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All done.MLB 14:53, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] "Stragella"
  
In {{P|365845|Undone Deeds}} it is stated that the Publication Date (2012-01-31) is derived from Amazon.  Shouldn't it be 2012-02-00 to match the Copyright Page which says February 2012? [[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 14:41, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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If we know the "Stragella" art in your fascimile reprint is by Amos Sewell (how do we know that?), then should we change the credit on this to be the same, either on the same basis or by virtue of the fact that we've been able to identify it for the reprint? --MartyD 14:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
:Yeah.  Mine's in storage, but I'll take your word for it.  This was an early edit, and the entry already existed and I wasn't as diligent in checking the existing facts. If you want to change it I'll move myself to transient verifier. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 16:01, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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I identified the artwork by looking up the story on this site, and, even though it is reproduced badly, the piece of artwork has Sewall's scrawl on it. I didn't change the original because I don't have that issue of Weird Terror Tales, just the facsimile. I can change it and notify the primary verifiers if you wish. MLB 14:52, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
::No problems, I'll change the entry.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 16:44, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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[edit] Cemetery Dance, #74/75, 2016
  
== Red Ryder and the Mystery of Whispering Walls ==
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Hi, there's a typo in one of the titles on Cemetery Dance, #74/75, 2016 which you have verified. The Joe Hill novella Snapshot, 1998 should be Snapshot, 1988 and of course the artwork titles also. Thanks. --Jorssi|talk 22:20, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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And another typo in this title. Should be 'disintegration'. --Jorssi|talk 22:46, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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Yet another typo in this title missing an 'f' in Mindfulness. --Jorssi|talk 23:12, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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Okay: Will change. MLB 23:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] David Scheinkofer vs David Schleinkofer
  
Hello, I've deleted the record for this novel as the author (in his multiple alias) is not above the threshold and your addition is the first of its kind, a trend that is IMHO not to be followed. Of course, I may be wrong in my analysis so don't hesitate to present the matter in the appropriate place. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 06:30, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, I've changed David Scheinkofer for your verified copy of The Fog Maiden into David Schleinkofer, as I encountered the cover art here.--Dirk P Broer 13:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
:Hmmm, lemme see.  He published fifty-eight pieces of short fiction, seven novels, not counting juveniles, in a career that lasted from 1935-1966.  Thirty-one years is a pretty hefty length of time for somebody to write science fiction.  Value of his fiction aside, something that I won't judge on this site, what does it take to have a non-genre work by a genre writer listed when one's career is that long.  Lesser writers have had their non-genre writings listed, I think Winterbotham has earned his odd western listed. If not, what '''''is''''' the threshold?
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[edit] "The Snatchers" author in Analog SFF March-April 2017
  
:And no, I'm not unique, there are hundreds of examples on this site. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 20:07, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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Might the author's name on "The Snatchers" in Analog SFF March-April 2017 be "McDermott" (m) instead of "McDernott" (n)? --MartyD 17:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
::I'm not judging the literary merits of the author, you're perfectly right that's it's not a criteria. When I wrote "your addition is the first of its kind", I was refering to the fact that you're the first to try to enter one non-genre title for this specific author, not in general. For the threshold question, the wikipedia entry seems to imply that he's a kind of "general-purpose" author not essentially known for its SF (note how he's first presented as a western writer), this is our usual defintion of the threshold (an author that is first a SF one). Roughly, if we were to enter all of Winterbotham's (and his pseudonyms's) works, the SF part would be the minority which is the basis of my interpretation. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 20:39, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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Yes, noticed that after entering data. Will fix. MLB 18:27, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
:::His Wiki page is pretty near useless, [http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/winterbotham_russ this site] is better, but still not great, although the latter does mention his juveniles.  The Wiki site lists only sixteen novels, seven of which are already on this site. His non-genre short fiction is not in question as these would never be listed on this site.  I suspect that more must be known of this man's career to make a solid judgement, as his speculative juveniles should be here, but I don't have, or have ever seen, them. I'm not that old, most appeared seventeen years before I was even a sparkle in my momma's eye. (I was born the same year C. M. Kornbluth and Henry Kuttner died)
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One more in that issue, that I missed on the original submission: Should Future-Proofing the Near Future be ESSAY instead of SHORTFICTION? I noticed it on the Editorial series insertion. --MartyD 19:08, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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Yes, getting it fixed. MLB 19:12, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Twilight Zone nonfiction
  
::::While I would like this novel on this site, I'm not going fight my Waterloo over it. I'll just take my frustrations out in the kitchen where I can beat some eggs and whip some cream. You get to make the decision, I don't, that's why as a moderator you make all big bucks. Anyway, I just got my '''''Analog''''' and my '''''Asimov's''''' so I'll be busy with those later. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:27, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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... shouldn't be considered as a part of the universe (as it should bear comments on it). I accidentally accepted a submission to make the editorials into a subseries, but I'm inclined to reverse this. I have put the other submissions on hold while waiting for an answer. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 21:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::I still do no recieve my last copies (snail mail to France). [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 05:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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Well, there's a non-fiction series for books on Star Trek, Star Wars, Space: 1999, etc. I'm sure that there are more Twilight Zone non-fiction books on this site, but I was just trying to get started to get all of these Twilight Zone series and books organized under one umbrella series title for easy reference. If you wish to reject the non-fiction book, then go ahead. MLB 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
:(outdent) 'Above the threshold' is a relative measure that different editors have different opinions on. However, it is the best we can do. As Hauck referenced above, you can always make a case for inclusion at [[ISFDB:Community Portal]]. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 22:32, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
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By-the-way, the scripts are fiction, not non-fiction, which should only leave the non-fiction books open to question. MLB 21:33, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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However I can take the editorials out of the Twilight Zone universe though. MLB 22:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Robert Bprslo
  
== Best Ghost Stories of M. R. James ==
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When I entered the latest Asimov's did I mean to type Robert Borski, why yes I did, and I have promptly dislocated my knee kicking myself for this. I will fix this when my submission is accepted. MLB 05:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Fifth Voyage - poem?
  
Regarding your edit to {{P|579458|Best Ghost Stories of M. R. James}}: I would like to confirm that the introduction is explicitly credited to "The Publishers" since that is unusual. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 22:25, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
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I have a submission on hold that wants to change the item on p. 136 of this publication to a POEM. Can you please have a look? Christian Stonecreek 16:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
:Indeed. It wasn't until I had put the page numbers into the databank that I realized that this book didn't have the Preface that this book was supposed to have, and that the Introduction wasn't the Preface under a different name. If you go [https://www.facebook.com/mark.baumgart.94 here], you will see a (bad) scan of the two Introduction pages. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 01:34, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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No. Shock Totem runs a department in which every author discusses the creation of the work that was published in that issue. Sometimes they are a paragraph, and sometime they are almost a page in length. McHutchins had told me to put (afterword) after each one, and I guess I forgot this time. This item is already listed as a poem in this listing on page 45. I'll put (afterword) after all of the non-fiction in this column and that should clear that up. MLB 21:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
::Excuse me, I got a new scanner, and I can't help playing with my new toy. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 01:34, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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Done, I hope that this helps. MLB 21:46, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
:::No problem. ;-) Thanks for confirming. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 12:14, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you, I'll reject the submission. Christian Stonecreek 07:51, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] "Conan the Buccaneer", by de Camp & Carter
  
== Borges in EQMM ==
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I accepted your publication update to this publication, but restored the publication date. Although it's annoying that whoever put that in didn't explain where they got it from, there's no reason to believe it's wrong. There are many other possible sources for a date: a later printing that listed a bunch of the earlier printings; Locus commenting on a new printing that was just sent them; an advertisement; a review; etc. Chavey 08:38, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Additions to verified "Frost Burned"
  
I'm moving the various translations of some of Jorge Luís Borges' stories to their own title records where I can determine the translator.  You have a verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?567457 issue] of ''Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine'' that contains his story "The Garden of Forking Paths".  I suspect this is the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2035373 Anthony Boucher translation] that was first published in EQMM in 1948.  Could you check if the magazine has any credit for the translator. Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 21:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
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I have made some additions to your verified copy of Frost Burned. I added to Notes - more information about what is on copyright page, Canada price, notes about cover, link to archived Amazon site. I imported the Map and Author's Note from the verified hardcover edition, for consistency. OK? BungalowBarbara 22:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
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Sure, thanx. MLB 23:37, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Changes to John G. Hemry/Jack Campbell pubs
  
:Yes it is. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 04:38, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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I am changing John G. Hemry's canonical name to Jack Campbell; this is affecting some of your verified publications. --Vasha 17:49, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Dark Voices 5 (and 2) content addition
  
== Jerry Schneider Enterprises / Fiction House Press ==
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Hi. In the Dark Voices 5 update that I have on hold, your proposed addition is ESSAY. Should that be INTERIORART? For that submission and the similar submission for #2 (where Linguist is the primary verifier), why do you have "(title page)" added to the titles? There doesn't seem to be any other interiorart, much less other pieces by Carson, such that disambiguation is necessary. --MartyD 10:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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Yes, they are artwork. Did late at night, sorry. (title page) as added to one of the books before me, and I kept that designation when I added the artwork. If you want, I can delete that if accepted. MLB 20:50, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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Parenthetical additions are used for disambiguation, not for explanation. There is one exception: maps, where we add "(map)". Anyway, since there is no need to disambiguate, I think you should not add the "(title page)". You could record in the notes that the only interior artwork is on the title page if you wanted to. --MartyD 21:18, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Blaze of Glory
  
You submitted a web page update for this publisher at "www.pulptalespress.com". But the phrase "Fiction House Press" occurs [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Fiction+House+Press%22+site%3Awww.pulptalespress.com&oq=%22Fiction+House+Press%22+site%3Awww.pulptalespress.com&aqs=chrome..69i57.916j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 nowhere] on the entire pulptalespress web site. (And "Jerry Schneider Enterprises" appears only with the copyright on the page.) So I don't see how that could be a proper web site for that publisher. [[User:Chavey|Chavey]] 02:42, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, for your verified copy of Blaze of Glory I've changed cover artist Xanaxa to Kanaxa, after reading the copyright page at Amazon.--Dirk P Broer 19:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
:Okay, stand back, this is going to get complicated.  Jerry Schneider is behind at least a half-dozen or more imprints, '''including''' Pulp Tales Press and Fiction House Press, and he uses them indiscriminately.  [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?500643 Comet facsimile #4]'s copyright page lists Pulp Tales Press '''and''' that it's part of Jerry Schneider Enterprises LLC, while [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?516968 Comet facsimile reprint #2] lists Pulp Tales Press as being an imprint of Fiction House Press.  When I listed a ton of facsimile reprints from their website on this site I often just simplified the publisher as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?41168 Pulp Tales Press].  On Amazon, Schneider's reprints are often just listed as being published by "CreateSpace".
 
:If you go to [http://www.fictionhousepress.com/ this site] you will see just how many imprints his books are published under.  Some are listed on his site under one imprint, then on Amazon under another.  Migraines ensue.
 
:Print-on-demand publishers, ain't they fun?  It's enough to discombobulate the sanest of us all.  [[User:MLB|MLB]] 03:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 
  
:: I approved your change, and included much of what you said above in the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?57209 note] for the publisher. I also added "fictionhousepress.com" as a link for that publisher. [[User:Chavey|Chavey]] 03:13, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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[edit] "Mrs. Midnight"
  
== Eva  ==
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In your verified publication Ghosts: Recent Hauntings, "Mrs. Midnight" is recorded as a short story. However, the author's bibliography indicates it as a novelette, and indeed, I have counted the words as it appears in The Best Horror of the Year Vol. 2, and it is 10,000 words long. I've changed the record; please let me know if you disagree. --Vasha 18:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
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No, I'm fine with it. MLB 00:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Content page numbers in Lover Beware
  
Cover artist for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12638 this pub] is Gary Smith, same cover as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?12639 here]. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 18:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. I have on hold your proposed changes to Lover Beware that would add two to each of the page numbers Barbara recorded. Her numbers match what I see in the Amazon Look Inside -- although the text begins on the page numbers you've given, there's a title page for each two pages before that (the page numbers she used). The help's ...on which the content begins. is rather vague, but given the example of using the page number of a preceding illustration as the starting page number, I'd think using the title page's page number would be appropriate. Is there something somewhere that leads you to think differently? Thanks. --MartyD 12:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads up on that. I've merged everything. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 19:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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Well, I've been running on the assumption that the story starts where the content (story, illustration) starts, and not the title page. I don't consider, and I may be wrong, that title pages are art. The formula is: title page, blank page, story. Anyway, after double checking my copy, I found mine to be a later printing, and so anything I have to add to Barbara's entry is moot. I'll delete my entry, and create a new one. Thanks for making me check my listing twice. MLB 23:42, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
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Let's hope I got it right this time. MLB 00:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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I have quite a number of these anthologies in my collection, but until this is cleared up I can't verify or add any. I don't think title pages are art, especially when followed by one or more blank pages. MLB 01:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Vampire Stories
  
== "The Diamond Maker" ==
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What I changed in this publication was the date of the story "The Last Sin" to make it jibe with the date of the anthology. --Vasha 22:40, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Or Suggested by Books?
  
The addition of "The Diamond Maker" to ''The Original Arthur B. Reeve: Craig Kennedy Scientific Detective Book 1'' has been approved. All ready for merges! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 20:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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Please see this edit I have on hold. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:12, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Also this one. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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No idea. When I follow the link I get this: "Moderator privileges are required for this option". So I don't know what you're referencing. MLB 00:00, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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Sorry, thought you'd be able to see it. The first one is changing 'Or Suggested by Books?': Some Jamesian Touches in the Fiction of Ruth Rendell to 'Or Suggested by Books?' Some Jamesian Touches in the Fiction of Ruth Rendell" (removing hyphen). I assume based on the assumption was a subtitle & therefore didn't the hyphen due to the question mark. However, want to make sure it wasn't in the original pub. The second one was the "Night in the Forest" one posted below. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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Gads, sir, that one is going to take a little detective work to find. It's been years since I did that one. I was still a snot-nosed punk of only fifty-three. So much has happened since then, so give me a little while to find it. MLB 07:08, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
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No problem. I have rejected the edit for now. Once you have a chance to check, you can update if needed. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] "Night in the Forest"
  
== Starwind Magazine, Autumn 1976 ==
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Hi, is there a typo in this record from one of your verified publications? --Vasha 16:00, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Yeah. Corrected. MLB 00:01, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] The Amber Witch Artwork
  
Hello, Are you sure there is no missing decimal point in the price of {{P|505020|Starwind Magazine, Autumn 1976}}? The other issue from the same magazine is 1.50 which is a lot more believable than $150 in 1976. Can you check your verified copy?  [http://www.philsp.com/homeville/FMI/b/b326.htm#A5389 Contento1] has it as 1.50 and despite the weird font, in the copy of the cover it looks weird but still 1.50 to me. If you insist on keeping it like that because of the way they printed the cover, I think we need at least a note. What do you think? I will also point the other verifier to here so we have the discussion in one place. Thanks [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 02:32, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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In your Five Victorian Ghost Novels, the The Amber Witch artwork was dated to 1843. However, the artist (Philip Burne-Jones) was born in 1861. While the omnibus may state the artwork is from the first printing, they probably mean the first printing of the Lady Duff Gordon translation (since that is the translation they used) which was 1894 and not the 1844 version. I have adjusted the dates as such. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:35, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
:You have discovered my secret ninja superpower. The ability to create typos where none should be!  I'll fix this immediately! [[User:MLB|MLB]] 04:18, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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[edit] Brain Child by John Saul
::I'm glad that error of price was addressed; now I can cross it off my list of things to take care of:). while you're correcting typos, here's some more things you may want to look at and evaluate:
 
::*Page 14 - In the story title, the word 'In' should not be capitalized , also for the interior art title.
 
::*Page 30 - If this is a cartoon it should be indexed, credited or not
 
::*Page 43 - In the essay title, the word 'that' should be capitalized
 
::*Page 53 - The interior art[3] for <I>Birthplace of Creation</I> is not indexed
 
:: There are several pages where reordering (2, 8, 16, 32, 65 ) records could be used but that can be done at some other time. That's all I found. [[User:Syzygy|Syzygy]] 09:41, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 
:::It'll take me a few days to get to my copy and correct these.  If you want, as you are primary verifier #2, you can feel free to correct them. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:32, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 
  
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I added notes to Brain Child by John Saul Susan O'Fearna 03:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May-June 2017
  
:: Ha. :) It happens - I almost closed the tab when my mind started screaming that something looks very weird. Figured I should check with you :) [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 18:06, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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Linked both dangling reviews in the issue (waiting for approval), changed one EDITOR to essay (In Times to Come (Analog, May-June 2017)) and added the magazine under its yearly title record. Annie 17:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks. After entering Analog, and while awaiting approval my computer got sick and I had to take the poor dear in to the computer doctor to get well. Which is why I disappeared in the middle of entering the data for the latest issue of Analog. So sorry to have caused you any problems. MLB 02:17, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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Not at all :) Figured you were offline for a bit so just went ahead and fixed it :) Annie 04:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] 'Snow-Drop"
  
:::Yeah, unless it had gold staples $150 is a bit steep. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 23:40, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, Do you have your copy of Snow White, Blood Red handy enough that you can check the length of "Snow-Drop"? You have it down as a novelette in that publication, but the official bibliography says it is 6500 words. --Vasha 14:13, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
:::: I have made all the changes as listed above with the exception of page 30. If you want to take a look at that when you get your copy out, I'll leave it to you if you want to index that or not, or if you do, list it as interior art or call it a cartoon. [[User:Syzygy|Syzygy]] 12:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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It went into storage, however, my listing was a guesstiment, so if you feel if it is a short story, please go ahead and change it. MLB 23:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Comet, May and July 1941 facsimile reprints
  
== Death's Rival ==
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Hello, I wanted to check the author attribution on the editorials in these two reprints (pages 68 and 123 respectively). I'm verifying the original magazine issues and in my copies, both of these are signed only "The Editor." Are the reprints this way as well? Thanks, Ldb001 01:59, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
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Yes. I think "The Editor" is more accurate, but I have been corrected numerous times, so I may have self-corrected. Please feel free to change my entries if you so wish. MLB 03:29, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks for the quick reply! I'll change these to be "The Editor" in both the original and the reprint. I've been instructed in the past to adhere to the author name as stated, so I try to do so. I've been attributing the artists in this magazine somewhat differently too (strictly by the credits given on the contents page) but so far nobody has complained about the inconsistency between magazine and reprint. I'm writing about this particular case because another moderator raised the issue about this case. Thanks again, Ldb001 03:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
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One more question (the last, I hope) about these 5 reprint issues. The feature "The Spacean" has been entered in the reprints as fiction for three issues, but as essay for the other two. I've entered these as fiction for the original magazines, but in order to merge them we should agree on the "type" field for them. Is calling all of these fiction OK with you? Thanks, Ldb001 15:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
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Yes. I've always considered these "non-fact" articles fiction, but there seems no hard and fast rule about this. I should have changed the other two long ago. Fun stuff ain't they? MLB 07:14, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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They're almost unreadable for me :-) But I haven't put a lot of effort into them. I think they must contain nods toward things that go completely over my head. They feel like something written in code, and if I could break the code they would make perfect sense. I'll go ahead and change the other two to fiction and merge with the magazine entries. Thanks, Ldb001 14:25, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May-June 2017
  
Would you like me to replace the Amazon image for {{P|396797|Death's Rival}} with a scan of the actual book. There is a slight difference to the covers, my copy has the ROC logo at the bottom right of the picture? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 19:29, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, I've added the missing Gord Sellar's text and uploaded cover to your PVed issue.Hauck 17:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:Sure, go right ahead.  Amazon often uses promotional materials instead of the actual images. I look forward to seeing your version. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 23:12, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks. MLB 07:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Ancient Voices
  
== The Pluck of O'Reilly ==
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I have your edit to Ancient Voices on hold. Did you mean to correct the author's name to Glynn Owen Barrass instead of "Glynn Owen Burrass"? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:06, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
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No cut and pasting here. I had to write everything down on paper from Amazon and then type it up. I need to write clearer! Will correct. MLB 00:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Flag in Exile
  
FYI, I have changed the 'storylen' value of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?745545 this title] from novelette to short story. It's only 6,520 words [https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/142349 as per Smashwords], which is below our 7,500 word threshold. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 01:36, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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Replaced cover art of Flag in Exile with a scan of my copy (some of the Amazon covers have a white blob on the right hand side). --AndyjMo 20:15, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Echoes of Honor
  
:Okay. Thanks. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:42, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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Replaced Amazon cover art of Echoes of Honor with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 15:17, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Ashes of Victory
  
== Analog Science Fiction and Fact, September 2016 ==
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Replaced the Amazon Cover art of Ashes of Victory with a scan of my copy. Is there any reason why some of the contents are listed twice? --AndyjMo 15:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Planet Stories, Summer 1940 (Adventure House reprint)
  
Hi. Regarding your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?579456 above], my copy, on p. 5, says "Printed by Trend Offset Printing, Jacksonville, FL U.S.A. (6/27/16)". Is yours different?<br>
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Hi, me again: I'm starting to verify the early issues of Planet Stories, and I notice you've verified the facsimile reprints. So I may be checking with you about some odd and ends as I work through these. In this issue I have two letters with different titles from those you list in the reprint. Ackerman's is titled "Ackerman up at Bat!" rather than "Ackerman Up!"; and Wright's second letter is "Right Is Wright" rather than "Right Is Wrong." Could you let me know if the reprint indeed titles them differently? If they are the same, I will change both with your permission. Thanks, Ldb001 04:50, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Also, shouldn't "Progress Report" start on p.8, the same as the interior art?<br>Also, "Dreams of the Rocket Men" starts on p.83.<br>
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Go ahead, most, but not all, of my pulp facsimiles just went into storage, so feel free to change these until I can get to mine. And now you've discovered my secret ninja superpower, making typos where none existed before. MLB 09:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
On p. 109, shouldn't the reviewed work be spelled "Arabella of Mars", not "Arabela..."? Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 07:18, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks, I'll make those changes. That superpower is shared by many including me. After I make edits, I wait for the moderator corrections to rain down.
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One author which was unreadable in the reprint but is clear in the original: "Win Edwards" is the artist responsible for "Sphere of the Never-Dead." I've added that as well. Finally, Kummer's first name in this publication is spelled "Frederick" with a "k" at the end, so I'll change this and variant to the proper spelling. Ldb001 13:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Jack London's non-genre stories
  
:In order: No, yer right, yes, yes, and yes.  Now excuse me.  I'm going to go and kick myself, and then correct my cretinous mistakes. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
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In some of your verified editions, you have stories by Jack London that are actually non-genre. I hope it's OK if I mark them as such.
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1. In Quickie Thrillers: 25 Mini-Mysteries, "The Leopard Man's Story." It's a story about a circus lion-tamer killed by his lion.
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2. In Tellers of Tales and The Golden Argosy, "To Build a Fire." Famous story about a greenhorn's Alaskan journey to a frozen end.
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I am going through a book of 46 Jack London stories and finding that a number of the ones we have in the DB actually are nongenre. London didn't write all that many speculative stories, but his suspenseful adventure stories are included in anthologies of "tales of terror". --Vasha 22:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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Why some stories are listed on this site I don't know (and I'm looking at you Sherlock Holmes), but I usually list them if in an anthology, or verify them, if they have been previously listed on this site. You can list them as [non-genre] or delete them. Whichever feels best. MLB 22:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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I am going to mark them non-genre because otherwise they'll probably get re-added sometime. --Vasha 22:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Planet Stories, Fall 1940 (Adventure House reprint)
  
:<kick> <ow, ow>. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
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Requesting to change a couple of small things in the reprint (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369518): (1) regularize the capitalization in a couple of reader letter titles, (2) on the assumption that it is in the reprint, add the letter by Charles Hidley. Thanks, Ldb001 01:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
::heh heh Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 03:53, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
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Oh yeah, go ahead, always feel free to regularize my capitalizations. I've listed Hidley's letters several times. I think all letters should be listed, but that's just me. MLB 01:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks, I hate to bother you with things this trivial, but I don't like to presume anything with verified pubs.
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I can see both arguments for inclusion of letters. Cluttering of the db vs. completeness. One advantage of including all would be that the policy would be unambiguous. But I personally don't have an interest in unknowns who may only have written a letter or two.
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For the next issue (Winter 1940), another couple of small things: (1) another letter to add by Hidley, and (2) two artist credits for "Don Lynch" which are listed in the reprint record as "D. L." and "Lynch." Because we have no artist credits, I'd like to change these to the canonical name (unless the reprint adds additional credits beyond those in the magazine). Thanks again, Ldb001 03:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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No bother. As these facsimile's were not reprinted in order, I probably entered these before I knew who Don Lynch was. Sadly, his career in sf didn't much outlast the pulps themselves. In the "too much information" department here's an example of Don Lynch's non-pulp artwork. MLB 04:03, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Changes to Maupassant pubs
  
== Treasures of Fantasy ==
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I am once again working on sorting out translations of "The Horla", so if you are notified of changes to any publications that involve Guy de Maupassant, that is what it is in regard to. I believe I haven't made any alterations that go beyond the information you provided the last time I queried you about these publications, but if you notice I've made a mistake, please do let me know. The only major thing I did was to separate out the translations revised by Dora Knowlton Ranous from the general uncredited translations. Otherwise, I just changed notes and dates. --Vasha 08:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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I guess this is where I ask if the translations have caused any significant changes in the story over the years, and which translator has done the best job. I've read various translations of this story over my life, but have not done any significant studying of the text, being more of a casual reader. Who's done the best, or worst, jobs at these translations? MLB 14:50, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Well, I haven't read the more recent ones (those first paragraphs are gleaned from previews and such). But of the older ones, numbers 1-8 in the list, all of which I've looked into except Laurie... Believe it or not, I think the anonymous 1903 is quite decent. (Ranous's "improvement" makes the text less wordy in places, but not really to its benefit. Maybe she didn't consult the French.)
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I wish that some anthology editors had done a comparison. For example, the Everyman's Pocket Library book of ghost stories is beautifully designed and printed, acid free paper and the whole nine yards... but for whatever eccentric reason the editor chose to use the execrable Jamison/Boyd translation. --Vasha 16:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Okay, now I know what look-out for. Fred Pohl did an experiment. One of his stories was translated (into Chinese, I think) and he had the story re-translated into English and ended up with a completely different story. So, I guess that translations are often undependable, but for most of us, that's all we can get to read. Or watch if it's on film, but that's a completely different matter. MLB 20:16, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Yeah, there have been translations where you wonder if the translator was reading the same book. I suppose you heard about the minor stir that the rediscovered Icelandic Dracula caused last year. None of these differences in "The Horla" are nearly that extreme. I should add that I think the Brian Rhys translation in the older Everyman editions, 1930s to 1970s, is also good. --Vasha 14:42, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Planet Stories, Spring, Summer, Fall 1941 (Adventure House reprints)
  
I had to do a hard reject of your edit to {{P|80028|Treasures of Fantasy}}. I was able to copy the content of your edit and updated the record for you so nothing was lost. A hard reject is caused when the record has been changed by another edit and the software cannot reconcile the differences. In this case, I believe you had earlier submitted merges. When changing a publication, it is safer to wait for the publication change to be approved before modifying the contents (or vs. versus). Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 02:32, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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More requests for minor changes on the next three issues of the facsimile reprints. Most are tedious little nits but one or two might be interesting. Let me know if there are issues with any. I'll make the changes if you approve.
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Spring 1941 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346342): 1)Add letters by Hidley and Lynn Bridges. 2)Author's name for "Satellite of Fear" is given as "Frederick Arnold Kummer, Jr." (first name ending in "k"). Should be entered thus and varianted to canonical name.
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Summer 1941 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375108): 1)Kummer's story is credited to "Frederick A. Kummer, Jr." on both story and contents page. 2)"Mutiny Aboard the 'Terra'" art is signed "Leon Rosenthal" (very small, perhaps unreadable in the reprint) so need to add artist's name to record to replace "uncredited." 3)The letter response by Reiss is just credited to "The Editor" so should be listed thus and variant to Reiss. 4) Lesser's letter should have "Boulders" rather than "Boulder" in the title. 5) Ed Smalle. He has three illustrations in Planet that are documented so far, and in all three cases his signature is clearly "Ed Smalle" rather than "Smalley." I think the editor's statement that his name was Ed Smalley was just a boo-boo. A Google of Ed Smalle gets a couple of hits for a comic book artist from that period who must be the same person. I'd like to change all occurrences of his name to "Ed Smalle." (added: I found en editorial reference to "Smalle" in the Fall 1940 issue, so I think this confirms things).
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Fall 1941 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346350): 1) The Raiders of Saturn's Rings: artwork title in the reprint record omits "The" and has "Ring" for "Rings." Both should be corrected. 2) Regularize case in letters. 3) Reiss's responses should be as "The Editor" and varianted. 4) Add Hidley letter.
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Winter 1941-42 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346355): 1) Change all artist names to those credited (last name only). 2) "Zurk" should be by Richard O. Lewis, not Robert O. Lewis.
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Final one: Spring 1940 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369515) 1)Letter-writer Olon F. Wiggins is spelled thus and so needs no variant. 2) Case correction ("the") in last letter title.
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Thanks, Ldb001 02:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
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Let me answer some of these requests for changes.
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1) When I first started editing on this site I was told not to use "The Editor" unless the editor was unknown, otherwise use the editor's name. Ditto for initials. Usually "The Editor" was used by editors before me. Some facsimile's were here before I came to this site (in 2012), and I just added to them or imported the basic contents from the various magazines.
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Be reassured, I've enforced exactly this rule (and used it myself for british magazines) as I don't see the value of interposing another level of data by using "The Editor" then varianting to the correct person. But It's just one of many moderator's advice, that's the ISFDB. Hauck 07:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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2) There is a very mundane reason as to why Hidley's letters started getting added to this site. When somebody started reprinting the Captain Future novels they also reprinted the columns from the self-titled magazine. Suddenly, and he was active into the sixties, his letters became eligible for listing here when before they weren't as they were now being reprinted in these anthologies. So, there are probably other letters out there waiting to be listed in already verified magazines. When you come across them, just feel free to add them.
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3) I was also told when I first started editing here that unless the artist is credited, on the title page, full is to be used in the listing, i.e., Leo Morey for Morey. Which is what I try to do. See below.
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4) As I'm handicapped and can't just pop over to my storage shed and look these older facsimile's up, I will take your word for most of these changes and correct what I can. MLB 06:57, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Yes, I think we all have gotten conflicting advice many times from different moderators. What I try to do is read the written policy and follow it. Sadly there is still much unwritten! For instance we're instructed to record authors exactly as they are credited, and I've also explicitly been told by a moderator to credit to "The Editor" when written. But like so many subjects each of us has received different instructions. I was reading the other day several discussions on whether to credit a letters column to "various" or to "The Editor." I saw a lot of discussion but as far as I could see it never resulted in a new policy. One of these discussions arose because some time ago I read a policy to use "N/A" for this purpose. Although it was the only written policy on the topic, I was told not to use it! So it goes.
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It sounds like we are in consonance about author credits: use the credited form, or if uncredited use the canonical form of the name.
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Generally I would not care much about these things: each editor to some degree chooses a preferred path. Policy should prevent that, but that's the reality. But I wanted the original and facsimile to agree as much as possible rather than unmerging one set of titles from the other and having the publications go in two different directions. In fact I was told by a moderator not to take that path. Thus making changes in the original required some coordination with the verifier of the facsimile. I apprecicate your addressing these questions and spologize for having to take your time with what are trivial mechanical details. All the best, Ldb001 14:38, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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Apart from moderators having deliberate differing agendas (which is quite rare), the main problem is of coordination. With about twenty active moderators (but with very widely different levels of effective moderating -from nearly none to a few hundreds per day-) and an unknown number of contributors, this proves to be a near impossible task. As not every case can be thought about, debated and have a course of action decided, we (the moderators) usually have to do our best and try to keep a certain constancy. Depending on what is moderated (e.g. self-moderating only), this constancy is more or less wide-ranging. You're also victim of the extreme weakness of our decision-making process which is not formalized and so left many issues unresolved because of quite equally split opinions. Add to this the fact that some moderators (alas including me sometimes) on diverse grounds flatly refuse to acknowledge some written rules (based on their ambiguity or fuzziness or the fact that the exact reverse of the rules is also written elsewhere) and you'll have the main reasons for such differences of interpretation. But the main point is that we all try to do our best to offer the more accurate data as is possible. Hauck 15:03, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment
  
== ''Czarnoksiężnik'' ==
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Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.
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Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:
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"Taboo" by Geoffrey Household - An eastern European community is terrorized by a series of murders. The mystery is solved, but the terror, and other psychological effects, linger on. Non-supernatural - Stories for the Dead of Night; The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; The Dark of the Soul; The Second Pan Book of Horror Stories; Stories for the Dead of Night; Griezelverhalen 2; Van Lichtelijk Luguber tot Meedogenloos Macaber
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"A Rose for Emily" by William Faulkner - SUMMARY - Fireside Reader; Classic Tales of Horror and the Supernatural; The Dark Descent; The Dark Descent; The Arbor House Treasury of Horror and the Supernatural; The Arbor House Treasury of Horror and the Supernatural; The Lucifer Society; The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; The Medusa in the Shield; The Giant Book of Horror Stories; The Oxford Book of Gothic Tales; American Gothic Tales; American Gothic Tales; The Golden Argosy; Vóór Middernacht: De Beste Griezelverhalen
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"A Terribly Strange Bed" by Wilkie Collins - SUMMARY - Tales of Terror and the Supernatural; Tales of Terror and the Supernatural; Basil Rathbone Selects Strange Tales; Basil Rathbone Selects Strange Tales; Tales of Terror and Suspense; Tales of Terror and Suspense; Nightfrights; Nightfrights; Fireside Reader; Adventure Stories for Girls; Horror by Lamplight; The Wordsworth Book of Horror Stories; Mad Monkton and Other Stories; Fireside Reader; Masterpieces of Mystery in Four Volumes; In the Grip of Terror; Van Edgar Allan Poe tot Roald Dahl
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"The Three Strangers" by Thomas Hardy - SUMMARY - The Golden Argosy; Tellers of Tales
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"Leiningen Versus the Ants" by Carl Stephenson - A lurid and much exaggerated account of army ants, but not intended to be taken as speculative, I feel sure - The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; The Second Pan Book of Horror Stories; The Big Book of Adventure Stories
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"The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell -SUMMARY - Early September; Psychos; The Ghouls; The Ghouls; Alfred Hitchcock's Spellbinders in Suspense; Stories and Storytellers; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; The Big Book of Adventure Stories; Verhalen die Hitchcock Koos
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"Lamb to the Slaughter" by Roald Dahl - SUMMARY - Someone Like You (Dell); Lamb to the Slaughter and Other Stories; Tales of the Unexpected; Someone Like You (Livre de Poche); Rakkaani, kyyhkyläiseni / Joku kaltaisesi; Lammkeule und andere Geschichten; M'n Liefje, M'n Duifje
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"Contents of the Dead Man's Pockets" by Jack Finney - SUMMARY - The Third Level; The Clock of Time; The Clock of Time; Stories of Suspense; Stories of Suspense; The Pan Book of Horror Stories; The First Pan Book of Horror Stories; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; Griezelverhalen 2
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"Two Bottles of Relish" by Lord Dunsany - One of Dunsany's few non-speculative crime stories. SUMMARY - In the Land of Time and Other Fantasy Tales; In the Land of Time and Other Fantasy Tales; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; The Unexpected; Death; Masterpieces of Horror; Owls' Watch; Tall Short Stories; Stories of Suspense; Stories of Suspense; The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; Stories for the Dead of Night; Stories for the Dead of Night; The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; Nacht en Ontij
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"A Note for the Milkman" by Sidney Carroll - SUMMARY - The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Nacht en Ontij
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"The Cone" by H. G. Wells - SUMMARY - Tales of Life and Adventure; Tales of Life and Adventure; Tales of Life and Adventure; A Harvest of Horrors; The Time Machine: An Invention and Other Stories; Human and Inhuman Stories; Human and Inhuman Stories; Human and Inhuman Stories; Selected Short Stories of H. G. Wells; Selected Short Stories; Selected Short Stories; Selected Short Stories; Complete Short Story Omnibus; The Cone; Works of H. G. Wells; The Country of the Blind and Other Selected Stories; The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; Der gestohlene Bazillus und andere Geschichten
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"The Lodger" by Marie Belloc Lowndes - SUMMARY - Jack the Knife; Red Jack; Tales of Terror and Suspense; Tales of Terror and Suspense
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"The Terrapin" by Patricia Highsmith - SUMMARY - The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; The Twelfth Pan Book of Horror Stories
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Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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My goodness, you have been busy. Like other editors, I haven't had the time to read everything, try as I might. So to comment on some of these:
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1) I read The Cone by H. G. Wells as a child, but I can remember nothing about it. If you say it is not speculative, then I'll take your word for it. Being a Wells story, may the tag [non-genre] would be appropriate.
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2) The Lodger is an influential suspense story. Influential on both the horror and suspense genres, but I have not read it, yet. Someday, someday. Again, perhaps the [non-genre] tag, with a note explaining it's influence on both genres.
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3) Ditto for Two Bottles of Relish, a story that I never liked to begin with, although that's neither here nor there.
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4) Ditto again for The Most Dangerous Game. The basis for a hundred speculative stories, graphic stories, and movies. See "2" and "3".
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5) A Rose for Emily, a non-supernatural gothic horror story? Perfect for Alfred Hitchcock, but I'm on the fence about this one.
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6) Leiningen Versus the Ants is also borderline, and the basis for hundreds of other man-against-nature stories, including the whole nature-goes-into-revolt, or nature-goes-berserk genres. I'm for keeping this one, with maybe a note stating how influential it is.
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I haven't read the rest, and I'll take your word for them. Perhaps you should take your work, substantial as it is, and start a discussion about these stories. All were here before I even started editing for this site. There are exceptions for "non-supernatural" horror stories. MLB 19:12, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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I agree that these very famous suspense/adventure/gothic/etc. stories have influenced a thousand speculative stories, but they're not genre themselves -- it's not as if SFF writers never read anything but SFF! What sort of note would you suggest adding? (I'm on the fence about "Leiningen", too.)
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As for "exceptions for non-supernatural horror stories", the Project Scope Policy doesn't mention any, only "supernatural horror, ghost stories, gothic fiction with supernatural elements..." and it states that "[p]urely psychological horror works that feature no supernatural or fantastical elements" are excluded. --Vasha 19:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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Examples of non-supernatural horror fiction on this site would be Psycho by Robert Bloch, The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle, An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce, and The Tell Tale Heart by Edgar Allan Poe. Bloch, Doyle, and Poe’s stories are crime stories, and Bierce’s is a war story. All four authors do a lot of genre blending in their fiction. And, quite frankly, I’m not even going to touch poetry. I also don’t count dreams, fugue states, and hallucinations as fantasy elements, but others do, and I’m not gonna argue with them. This is why so much literary fiction is listed here.
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I’ve yet to read too many horror anthologies that don’t have at least one borderline, or non-supernatural horror story. A lotta crime fictions, modern and pulp, have borderline elements. This is why all of those shudder pulps are listed on this site. I’ve had more than my fair share of stories rejected for being too borderline.
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Again, I think a lot of this is wasted on me, as other editors and moderators should be chiming in with their opinions . Although I do agree with you on several stories. As an editor I don’t make policy, and the stories that you point out are long standing contributions to this site. I think stories may have to be taken on a story-by-story basis. I suggest that you lift your research and paste it on one of the moderator boards. Just ask if these stories should be listed as non-genre with a note stating their influence on the genre. State your case, others do it, why not you? This might be a reason as to why the Sherlock Holmes stories are listed here. MLB 23:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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Yeah, this should be a general discussion rather than divided into separate pages, I guess. --Vasha 23:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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Well, these questions come up periodically, and should be asked. They keep everybody on their toes. MLB 23:36, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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See Community Portal; the list of suggested stories is already longer there. --Vasha 00:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Added contents from another edition
  
Hello MLB. I have approved your submission, but had to touch it up a bit : 1) the "Transliterated Title" field is for transcriptions only, not translations; 2) The translation of the Polish title is "The Wizard", even though the English title is "The Shape of Illusion"; 3) I had to remove the synopsis in Polish, as this should be in English. It would be better, in my opinion, to find one in this language, and put it on the English title page ! Thanks, [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 07:43, 26 August 2016 (UTC).
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I am working on the Cleanup Report that complains about collections and anthologies that have no contents. Right now I'm importing contents for such works when we have another printing of the same book (by the same publisher) that includes the contents. A book verified by you for which I've done this is: Foundation and Empire. I haven't included page numbers, so this book is still missing that detail. If you have the time, I encourage you to verify this against your own copy. Chavey 20:44, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
:No sweat, I have found one… [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 08:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC).
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[edit] Serial Vigilantes of Paperback Fiction
::Well, it looks like your job as moderator is still safe.  Still so much to learn. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 13:26, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 
  
== Planet Stories, Spring 1940 / The Man Who Killed WHAT? ==
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Image URL found for this pub. --Zapp 08:46, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks. MLB 18:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Horror Stories
  
Hi, In your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369515 Planet Stories, Spring 1940] there is a story [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?76875 'The Man Who Killed the Earth']. That is only true for the TOC however. The story that begins on page 94 is [https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v01n02_1940-Spring 'The Man Who Killed the World'].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 11:18, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Mark. I've got some questions on who to enter as editor of the 1930s pulp Horror Stories. You've verified the Oct-Nov 1937 issue and you've got the editor as Rogers Terrill, citing info from philsp.com. The citation you mentioned comes from here, I guess, and shows editors as being 1935 – 1939: Rogers Terrill; 1939: Loring Dorst (Dowst); 1940 – 1941: Steve Farrell (Farrelly). This is from the (about) link. Another link, the (Pub Info) link takes you to here, which shows the editor as being Steve Farrelly - Editor: Horror Stories, Jan 1935 – Apr 1941. Obviously a conflict. All other existing Horror Stories entries in ISFDB show Farrelly as editor, rightly or wrongly. I contacted Bill Contento with this and he replied "The entry on Horror Stories in SCIENCE FICTION, FANTASY, AND WEIRD FICTION MAGAZINES by Marshall Tymn and Mike Ashley lists Rogers Terrill as overall editor, no mention of Dorst or Farrelly. Bob Jones's essay "Popular's Weird Menace Pulps" in THE WEIRD MENACE pamphlet from OPAR Press 1972, says Rogers Terrell became Editorial Director of some 14 Popular pulps. Steve Farrelly is mentioned as an editor of Horror Stories, and that he died in 1940. Loring Dowst is listed as serving on Horror Stories in 1938. Unfortunately there are no exact dates. I have photocopies of the table of contents for Horror Stories but there's no mention of editors there. I don't know where the dates on Galactic Central came from, and Phil who runs the site just left for a month's vacation. This has likely raised more questions than answers!". So...we're left with questions. Do you think any of the existing editor info on Horror Stories should be changed, possibly with addition of notes? (Yours is the only prime verified issue). I was going to enter some of the missing issues and wanted to get some other input on it before going ahead. Also, I'll ask Ron to join the conversation since he's secondarily verified some of these issues. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 18:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
:Oh . . . crap!  Will change. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 20:47, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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Both FictionMags and Miller/Contento list only Steve Farrelly as the editor. Tuck states "Editor: Steve Farrelly with Rogers Terrill as Editorial Director" I'd defer to what is printed in the magazine, though I suspect the editor is not credited. Tuck's characterization may explain why Tymn/Ashley lists Terrill. We generally stick with the main editor, but Terrill could certainly be mentioned in the notes. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
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My copy is one of those I picked up second-hand at a flea market, as I wasn't born until twenty-four years later, and my Dad, who claimed to have read some of these pulps was only five. So, this horribly mangled, non-inherited, second-hand edition only contains the body of the pulp; no contents or indicia page. Even the cover image comes from a deck of shudder pulp non-sports trading cards. I'm pretty sure that Terrill wouldn't have read the contents of all fourteen pulps, so I can change the editor to Steve Farrelly if you feel that this is the proper thing to do. MLB 02:54, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks to both for responding. Looks like the real answers are lost in time. I'm going to go with what seems to be the preponderence of evidence with Farrelly as editor with a note about Terrill. Maybe Phil of Galactic will have some insight for us when he returns from vacation but the odds are against it. Mark, if you changed yours it would at least clean up the EDITOR records a bit, but do as you see fit. Doug / Vornoff 05:23, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Monstrosity ebook
  
== Barrie excerpts ==
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Hi. Your Monstrosity submission that I have on hold would change the existing entry for the paperback into an ebook and lose the paperback's information. Did you perhaps mean to clone instead and accidentally edited in place? --MartyD 11:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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Yeah, I meant to clone. I'll do it over. Thanks for catching that. MLB 20:10, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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[edit] Cloning Backwards in time
  
I am wondering why, in ''Masterpieces of Fantasy and Wonder'', you titled the excerpts from ''The Little White Bird'' things like "The Thrush's Nest (excerpt)". To me that suggests an excerpt from something called ''The Thrush's Nest''; I would expect this novel-excerpt to be titled simply "The Thrush's Nest" and have a note that it's an excerpt. If I am wrong about that, never mind; I am new around here and not familiar with the conventions. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha77]] 19:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, you submitted the cloning of the 2016 publication of this title with a 2014 date. In such cases, don't forget to adjust the 2016 dates in the record, lest it leads to a lot of cleaning up afterward. It's usually better to change all the dates in the existing publication in one go before submitting the cloning. Thanks. Hauck 02:18, 21 June 2017 (EDT)
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Another polite reminder to be careful when your new clone is a previous publication than the one you are cloning from - while it is a single publication, it is easy to fix the dates but once the titles are in multiple publications, it needs to be done one by one - the last two clonings you had were like that. If you would like to submit the cloning without waiting for the re-dating to go through, add a moderator note in the clone request to tell the moderators to make sure the date change you also submitted had gone through :) Thanks! Annie 02:41, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
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[edit] Horror Stories / Costanza masthead art
  
:*You talk to me like '''Eye''' know what I'm doing. Talk to the moderators and they will quickly disillusion you of '''that''' concept. ;-).  If I remember correctly, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276710 Masterpieces of Fantasy and Wonder] and its contents were already listed, I just added the notes, page numbers, and cover art.
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Hi Mark. Another question on Horror Stories, which relates to your verified issue, Oct-Nov 1937, and specifically the artwork by Costanza on p. 120 for the "Chamber of Horrors" column. This appears to be masthead art and I'll bet it's the same as the art I entered on the March and May 1940 issues. I went ahead and varianted the latter to the earlier but Hervé has brought up some questions on my talk page about entering masthead art. If you want to check the art against your copy, it can be found here. Any input you have would be appreciated. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 10:55, 21 June 2017 (EDT)
:*If something is excerpted from a larger work, then it is listed as an excerpt. If, however, it is excerpted and printed as a '''separate''' work, then it is listed as a separate work.  I.e., if chapters two and three were lifted from '''''The Hobbit''''' and given a new title then it would be listed as a new work, but a note would posted as that this was an excerpt, but if it was listed as '''''The Hobbit''''' in the book then "(excerpt)" would be added on to the title and a note listed in the notes field. At least that's what I think are the rules. As I said, I didn't list the stories, give me a little while to dig this book out of storage and see what's what with it. Confused yet?  Wait until you start tracking down fly-by-night print-on-demand publishers!
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[edit] CreateSpace
:*I'm no expert in all of this, I'm constantly getting it wrong, so I could be wrong about all of this.  Lemme check.  
 
:*Oh, and I've never read Barrie, yet, so I'm no expert in this author's works. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 22:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 
  
:In this volume ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?276710 Masterpieces of Fantasy and Wonder]), the three excerpts are titles separately as "Peter Pan", "The Thrush's Nest", and "Lock-out Time". I have not ever read ''The Little White Bird'', and I don't have a copy of it, so I can't check, but these titles are similar in style to those found in ''Peter Pan and Wendy''. Based on that, I suspect these are the chapter titles from that book, and the brief intro paragraph at the beginning of "Peter Pan" indicates that is the most likely the case ("This selection of chapters..."). This is the first case where I've seen title chapters used as excerpts, so I am not sure what they would be called. I would post over on the [[Rules and standards discussions]] board to see what people think. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 16:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
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I may be telling you something you already know... but according to discussions here and here, CreateSpace isn't a publisher, but rather a printing and production service (a subsidiary of Amazon, which is probably why they insist on naming it in the "publisher" space on their pages). So we don't list it as a publisher here, instead leaving a blank space (currently -- even though the help says to put the author name; I believe that the help will be updated, but -- as with every other discussion! -- the discussion is still ongoing.) Therefore, I'd like to change all of your verified publications that list CreateSpace -- Astounding Stories of Super-Science: Vol. 1 No. 2 February, 1930, and maybe others I haven't found yet. Thanks! --Vasha 18:06, 23 June 2017 (EDT)
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If the copyright page that I can view actually says published by (listed any author) then I list the author as publisher. CreateSpace is has always been a default setting for me, but I'm more than willing to list anything else. Why not "uncredited"? MLB 01:47, 24 June 2017 (EDT)
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[edit] Galaxy's Edge #1
  
::Looks like Vasha77 has already done this, I'm going to wait and see if anybody chimes in with any comments. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 23:32, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. I submitted an edit to re-order the first page of the Book Review on your verified above to put the column name first. Also I noticed on my copy that the title of that column is called "Book Reviews", not "Books". I don't know if that's the same in your copy. Doug / Vornoff 20:18, 24 June 2017 (EDT)
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[edit] Extracted
  
:::MartyD [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Titles_of_Barrie_excerpts thinks] that the "(excerpt)" should be removed from those chapter titles. If it's all right with you two, I'll go ahead and do that. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha77]] 02:45, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hello,
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I have your addition of Extracted on hold because it seems like we already have it: over here. Am I missing something that makes it different? Annie 02:48, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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Nope, looks like I wasted both of our times. MLB 03:21, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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Now I see what went wrong. The author is listed on this site as RR Haywood instead as R. R. Haywood as per ISFDB protocol. Permission to change his name on this site. MLB 03:34, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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I just changed it - no reason to make you wait for all the edits to get approved. I cannot find a reason why he/she needs to be one of the exceptions :) If someone insist it needs to be RR, they will need to write a note explaining why and leave it on the account :) Feel free to copy all the new data your submission had into the existing publication and submit it again. By the way - for ISBN-less books that have ASIN, the new Advanced search for external IDs is very helpful.Annie 03:50, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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[edit] Cordwell Turnbull
  
== Entering NOVELs ==
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Or is it Cadwell Turnbull in the new Asimov's? Mine is still somewhere in the USPS system so cannot check so can you double-check? :)Annie 17:54, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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***Blush*** ***Blush*** I'm so embarrassed. I created a ham-fisted typo. Will correct. MLB 19:31, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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"a" looks a lot like "or" when the letters are not that big (that's my story and I am sticking to it:)) Thanks for the quick check! Annie 19:37, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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Just a notification that I fixed issues with 2 of the reviews in the issue: the name of Michael Miller was misspelled as Michel (if it is indeed Michel in the book, you may want to add a note in the review record) and I added the hardcover of "A Hundred Thousand Worlds" so I can link the review :) Annie 01:18, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
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[edit] Who Is Willing?
  
Hello, please do not manually add a NOVEL record when entering a publication (as for <i>The Culled</i>) the system does this for you automatically. If you do this, you end up with two NOVELS, needing an intervention to straighten things up. I supposed that you wished to add the starting page number of the novel in one go, alas it's not possible. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 16:01, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hi,
:Very sorry, won't do it again. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 16:25, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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Approved Who Is Willing? but shouldn't the format be "digital audio download"? Audible are downloadable so it matches. Annie 21:14, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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I don't know. The Amazon listing only states that this is an audiobook. It could be a digital audio download, or on a CD. I know nothing about Audible. If you say it's a digital audio download then I'll change it. MLB 21:19, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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Actually it says "Audible Book", not just AudioBook in the title and then in the details ("Audible Audio Edition"). Audible is an audio download only company so if you see Audible, it means downloads. They have audiobooks, dramas and radio-programs though - thus the type saying audiobook in the details. (sorry if you know that already). :) Or are we looking at different pages in Amazon. The ASIN leads here. Annie 21:25, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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No, it's the same one. **Sigh** I knew nothing about Audible, but now I know. Will change. MLB 00:21, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
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[edit] Mort
  
== October 2016 ''Analog'' ==
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Hello,
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I had to hard-reject 3 of your variants because one of the titles is not there anymore so it cannot variant into it (or from it). I found 2 that seemed to be what you were trying to do (the result is here but can you check the entries and resubmit any that I missed? Thanks! Annie 19:35, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
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Everything looks fine, although there is still one trade paperback to add to this entry. Self-published books are fun to enter ain't they? I have since found out that Amazon is giving the wrong publishing dates for Duncan's ebooks! Sadly, very few people seem to be interested in listing these indie fantasy/horror books, or updating these authors. MLB 20:05, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
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Oh, yes. They are a riot. Part of the reason for some of the cleanup, the whole ASIN moving to new field thing and so on, is to allow some of these to be added automatically when they do not have ISBNs. That should help somewhat. If you get bored, some help here won't harm :) Other from that - it comes down to priorities I guess - too many books, too little people to add them. I tend to work through an author when I stumble on one that needs it but it does not happen too often. Or whole small publishers. Thanks for working on these. :) Annie 20:16, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
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I still have a ton of my own books to list on this site, but my main interests are pulp fiction, horror/indie horror, juveniles from before 2000, detective fiction, pre 2000 sf, fanzines (along with Biomass Bob), and media tie-ins. F'r instance this and this are all mine. Unfortunately, I live on a disability, so I can only do so much, so your job is still safe. :-) MLB 20:42, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
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[edit] The Oldest Living Vampire Saga: Volumes I, II & III
  
I have one of your submissions on hold.  There were two in a row, and the one on hold looks to me like a double-submission of the first, which resulted in {{P|584798|this}}.  I didn't want to reject it, though, in case I'm missing something.  If it did get doubled, please cancel it.  Otherwise, let me know and I'll accept it.  Thanks.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 02:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hello,
:No, they're the same.  I'll cancel one, add columns and series, and correct Don Sakers name. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 03:38, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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I wondered if I should reject that one and just do it manually but figured I can fix it after the approval. You had misspelled Joseph Duncan as James Duncan in the contents (autocomplete from your browser maybe? James Duncan seems to be someone that wrote back during the pulp times and you are working on those...). I fixed it and did some merging to get the publication and author back on track. And I added the content to the title record while I was around. The result is here and the content is visible in the series list :) Annie 00:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
 
 
== October 2016 ''Analog'' ==
 
 
 
I have one of your submissions on hold.  There were two in a row, and the one on hold looks to me like a double-submission of the first, which resulted in {{P|584798|this}}.  I didn't want to reject it, though, in case I'm missing something.  If it did get doubled, please cancel it.  Otherwise, let me know and I'll accept it.  Thanks.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 02:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Non-genre texts in non-genre magazines ==
 
 
 
Hello, I've deleted the record for <i>The Crack of Doom</i> as it's a non-genre text in a non-genre magazine and so is outside our scope. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 15:32, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:Alright, no problem. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 16:58, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?584798 Analog Science Fiction and Fact, October 2016] ==
 
 
 
I submitted a change for "Angles of Incidence" by Nancy Fulda because she lists it as fiction on [http://www.nancyfulda.com/press-kit her website]. Will you check and make sure? TIA! ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 00:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:If you go to your closest window and stick your head out the window that won't be thunder you would be hearing, that's me banging my head against a wall.  Thanks for finding that flaw. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 00:46, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::This issue certainly seems to have a lot of sections on this page. Distant thunder is soothing, don't you think? ;) ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 12:54, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:::It looks like I'm gonna up with brain damage before this all done with. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 06:00, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Analog Science Fiction and Fact, October 2016 ==
 
 
 
Hi Mark. More good news: In your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?584798 Analog Science Fiction and Fact, October 2016]  you have 216 pp and it's actually 116. In your On Sale Till note, I think you've got an extra "the" or "this". You missed the story "Mom in the Moon" on p. 63. Cheers, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 07:14, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:To be corrected.  Don't know how I missed the short story. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 06:03, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::I'm curious, I haven't read much of Adam-Troy Castro, so do you know if the story [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2052914 The Soul Behind the Face] is part of his Andrea Cort series?  A series that has been appearing regularly in '''''Analog'''''. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 06:17, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:::Sorry, not off hand. My memory is lousy. I'd have to go back over the stories to see. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 22:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Artist Sokoli ==
 
 
 
Hi Mark. In your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?563504 Captain Future, Winter 1944] you have interior artwork on p.93 credited to Sokoli. I'm guessing this was from the signature, as this is how [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?236231 Joseph Szokoli] sometimes signed his art, as can be seen [http://www.pulpartists.com/Szokoli.html here]. Would you like to make a pseudonym out of Sokoli and variant his interiorart record to the parent? Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 01:14, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:It'll take me a couple of days to do anything about this.  I know where this issue is, I think, but it's where it's difficult to get at right now.  The problems of having damaged legs I'm afraid. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 06:31, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::No problem. Sorry about your legs - we've all got our stuff, don't we? Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 14:18, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:::Well, with all of my typos you'd think I was blind.  However, checking my copy which I finally found, I see I was right.  It '''''was''''' Sokoli.  Will make it a pseudonym.  Pronto! [[User:MLB|MLB]] 01:24, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== A. McWilliams / Alden McWilliams ==
 
 
 
Hi Mark. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?124731 Alden McWiliams] (Al McWilliams) is the same person as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?84589 A. McWiliams], as seen [http://www.pulpartists.com/McWilliams.html here] and other websites. I've pseudonymed A. McWilliams to Alden but that leaves a string of titles that normally would need to be varianted. So my question is: You have verified titles attributed to A. McWilliams on this list. If that was by actual credit, they should be varianted to Alden but if it was by a signature only, the name should be changed to Alden McWilliams, as I see it by our rules. Here are the ones you've verified, could you check them and make any changes? Sorry to burden you with this but I thought it was the right thing to do to. I'm sending this out to RTrace, Krang and Rkihara, who have different issues with the same situation.<br>
 
Black Priestess of Varda (2) in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346368 Planet Stories Winter 1947 (reprint)]<br>
 
::I've checked the reprint of these in ''Pulp Vault'' and they are credited by signature alone.  Feel free to change the title if Rkihara agrees.  I've left this same note on his page.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 14:02, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 
Me, Myself and I in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346368 Planet Stories, Winter 1947 (reprint)]<br>
 
SOS Aphrodite in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346370 Planet Stories, Summer 1949 (reprint)]<br>
 
Stalemate in Space in ditto.<br>
 
Let the Ants Try in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346471 Planet Stories, Winter 1949 (reprint)]<br>
 
The Dead-Star Rover in ditto.<br>
 
The Night Has a Thousand Eyes in ditto.<br>
 
Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 04:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::I'm a believer that an artist, and a writer, should be listed as they want to be.  This doesn't mean the works can't be varianted, but if we list an artist by another name other than how they sign their work how will they or their work be found on this site?  This is, I think, a question that should be asked.  Shouldn't an artist be treated the same way an author is treated? [[User:MLB|MLB]] 23:45, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:::My reason for bothering you all with this is I was trying to abide by what several moderators have advised me to do and that that method has become "the standard", as apparently it's not actually in the Help. I get a sense people don't really want to implement major Help changes. Your way seems as valid as the other way. I guess it boils down to editor's choice. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 00:56, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::::Doug, I'm not trying to be difficult, although it seems like I am.  I'll go back and change mine, 'cuz I did go and look them up.  It seems McWilliams signed all of the work of his that I have as A. McWilliams, so, why don't I just create a pseudonym page and variant them?  Problem solved.  Anybody looking for A. McWilliams' work will find it, and we won't have two separate entries for the same artist.  Let me know if this is okay. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 04:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:::::Oh a pseudonym listing was already made.  Anyway, all have been varianted. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 04:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 
::::::Thanks, Mark - Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 05:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2016 ==
 
 
 
Added a note about the cover of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?584802 Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2016].[[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]] 22:06, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:Okay, cool. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 23:48, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Analog Science Fiction and Fact, June 2013 ==
 
 
 
I put a note to the cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?412808 this pub] and changed the artist's name. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 19:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)<br>
 
And [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?400060 here], too. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 19:37, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Okay, good work. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:45, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== To the Dark Tower ==
 
 
 
I approved your edit to Long's ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?287890 To the Dark Tower]''.  However, I changed the publisher back to "Lancer".  We have [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?719 Lancer Easy Eye] as a publication series of Lancer rather than a separate imprint.  We can discuss further if you disagree, but that's how the others have been handled.  Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 01:53, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:No discussions needed.  I'm good with it being done that way. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:31, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Ride the Star Winds ==
 
 
 
Hi, In our data base we have two verified records for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1388071 Ride the Star Winds]: one which credits the cover art to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?376546 Stephen Hickman] -who also did three earlier issues in the Baen Omnibusses- and one that credits the cover art to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?412914 Alan Pollack], who also did the last two of those Omnibusses. Judges by the cover art of these six titles I am inclined to think that it should be Alan Pollack in both cases of ''Ride the Star Winds'', but could you please check?--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 13:12, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Sez Hickman. Curiously enough, I seem to have the same effect on women that Grimes on the cover has. ;-) [[User:MLB|MLB]] 06:00, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== WW publication series ==
 
 
 
Hello, I've deleted the WW publication series. It doesn't look like one and the data is in the notes. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 08:45, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Now I know. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:38, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Cover art found  ==
 
 
 
Changed the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?389600 this pub] since I found the artwork. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 10:54, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:So I did [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?431504 here]. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 13:34, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Pulitzer ==
 
 
 
Added notes and a cover scan to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?26966 Pulitzer].[[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]] 16:56, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Was there no cover art?  Just asking.  This is not the first time art linked to Amazon has just "Disappeared". [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:59, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Angels Unaware ==
 
 
 
Added notes and cover scan to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?2724 Angels Unaware].[[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]] 17:23, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Heat Wave ==
 
 
 
Added notes and cover scan to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?16690 Heat Wave].[[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]] 18:36, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Cemetery Dance #74-75 ==
 
 
 
Hello, can you please link the reviews in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?590689 this pub]? If it's not possible, either transform the REVIEW into an ESSAY or enter the reviewed books. All this appears on diverse cleanup reports. Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Cemetery Dance #74/75 ==
 
 
 
Re [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?590689 this issue]: I've corrected the page count to include the covers (from 194 to 196), changed "#74-75" to "#74/75" as it appears in the publication (a dash is used for month dating, not issue dating), and added an essay record for the first title reviewed by Datlow (page 131). I also merged this record's editor title record with that of the other issue from 2016. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]]|[[User talk:Mhhutchins|talk]] 17:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Thanks, this is why even the best of us, which I '''am not''' need a good editor.  Also, it's good to hear from you again. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 20:08, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== The Spectre Bride ==
 
 
 
Your verified {{P|383589|Gothic Short Stories}} contains the story "The Spectre Bride" (page 32). Would you mind if this is the same story as [http://www.gutenberg.org/files/53419/53419-h/53419-h.htm#THE_SPECTRE_BRIDE this story]? If it is, records  {{T|1341769}} and {{T|831682}} should be merged. If it is not, could you please add the first line to the title record (similar to what is at {{T|831682}}) to differentiate the two stories. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 23:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Ah yes, one of my first edits.  Don't know right now where that book is.  After my mother's death last January, I gave some stuff away, put some stuff into storage,  and stuff I already had in storage got shifted to the back and stuff was stored in front of this other stuff.  I quoted the introduction as saying that the story might be by William Harrison Ainsworth.  With winter coming up it will probably take a while to find it if I have it stored off-site from my house. I'm sorry if I seem uncooperative. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 00:13, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::No problem. That is certainly understandable. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 01:09, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Collection vs. Omnibus ==
 
 
 
I accepted your edit to ''Encounters'', but changed the type to collection. If it only has short fiction (which novellas would qualify), it would be a collection. An omnibus requires one of the contents to be a novel, collection, anthology, or nonfiction. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 00:05, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:Well, now I know. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Original cover photo found ==
 
 
 
of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?405415 this pub] and changed cover artist. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 22:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:Excellent.  Good detecting. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 22:14, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Wheels of Fire ==
 
 
 
I've changed the Amazon cover art for {{P|54312|Wheels of Fire}} for a scan of my copy and added a few notes.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 18:49, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== The Penguin World Omnibus of Science Fiction  ==
 
 
 
Would you mind checking your primary verified The Penguin World Omnibus of Science Fiction  and check the spelling of the name of Lyuben Dilov - is it "y" or "j" as the second letter? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 08:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Changes to your verified publication ==
 
 
 
Hi -- I have a copy of ''[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?324392 Werewolves and Shape Shifters: Encounters with the Beasts Within]'' and would like to make some changes. For one thing, the title page reads ''Werewolves and Shapeshifters: Encounters with the Beast Within''; and for another, "Fire Dog" should be listed as by Joe E. Lansdale even though that is a printing error. I will probably find more things as I go through it. Is that all right with you? --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha77]] 00:15, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:Yes, I have no problem with being corrected.  Correct away. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:42, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::Just to let you know, I think I did that all in one sitting, my eyes were probably blurring by the time I was done. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:44, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== "Escape From Hell"  ==
 
 
 
I replaced the Amazon cover for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?304741 Escape From Hell] by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle with a scanned image. [[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 04:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Natalie Winters covers ==
 
 
 
Hello, as I've moderated quite a lot of them, please remember to variant them afterwards to the canonical author. Thanks. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 07:44, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Okay. No excuses. Just wanted to merge them first. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:46, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Angelic Avenger ==
 
 
 
I accepted your edits to the {{T|1138604|Angelic Avenger}} publications. However, you set the cover artist of one to Kanaxa and the other to Angela James, but the displayed cover images are the same. Would you mind double checking this? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 00:49, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Done.  Checked and fixed. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 03:46, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== 100 Astounding Little Alien Stories ==
 
 
 
I would like to change a few credits in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?39 this verified pub]. The introduction is signed as by Stefan Dziemianowicz, not Stefan R. Dziemianowicz and Feeding Time (page 156) is as by James E. Gunn, not James Gunn. Not bad, only 2 out of 101. Any objections? Thanks for checking, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 20:36, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:No, feel free. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::Thanks! Changes made. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 21:51, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Your verified Chibi Vampire: The Novel 1  ==
 
 
 
Hello,
 
 
 
In your verified {{P|313723|Chibi Vampire: The Novel 1}}, the title and pub title do not match - the title seems to be based on the rest of the series while  you verified the publication title differently. Do you mind looking it up and figuring out if your publication title is the way to go and I will update the title record based on that? (or if you want to reverse the action, we can update the publication title of course). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 22:27, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::*Anniemod:  Quite frankly I don't know where this book is at present.  I read it, but can't remember much about it.  This is one of first edits here and I was sure I got it right.  Even then I was surprised to find that the book had such a bland title. Since this book has gone walkabout, I'll go and change my verification to transient verification.  I didn't add the Japanese variantation, so please do what you wish with this entry.
 
::: I think that someone changed the title to match the series. I will equalize using your pub title as it was verified. Thanks for answering :) [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 06:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
: And one more like that {{P|387384|Publication: The Fantastic Island & Danger Lies East: Two Classic Adventures of Doc Savage}}. If you think that they should stay mismatched, that also can be done of course (but a note is in order I think). Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 23:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::*I think I know where this one is at, but it'll take a couple of days to try to find it and see what the problem is. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 05:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::: Not urgent. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 06:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Prodigal's Return ==
 
 
 
I added the cover artist and a note on the source of that information to you verified pub [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?365033 Prodigal's Return].
 
:There are a lot of holes in the artist credits for these Worldwide paperbacks.  Feel free to fill in as many as these holes as you can. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 03:14, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Translations of "The Horla" ==
 
 
 
As you surely know, back in the early days of the DB, different translations of the same story weren't given separate title records, but now this practice has changed. I'm about to sort the various English translations of Guy de Maupassant's "The Horla" into separate title records and wanted to consult you, as a primary verifier, before I do so. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?67969 Here] is the title record for all the publications that haven't been sorted yet, and [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User:Vasha77/Translations_of_The_Horla here] is the list I made, of all the translations I know of (thirteen of them) and which publications belong to which. I hope you can contribute some more information.
 
 
 
You verified the following anthologies with the story; I've noted which translation I believe each one is.
 
 
 
A. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?314508 ''The Vampire Archives'', ed. Otto Penzler]. No. 4, uncredited/England.<br />B. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?189149 ''The Devil's Children'', ed. Michel Parry]. I don't know this one.
 
 
 
For each of these -- and also other publications in the DB if you happen to have them -- could you please confirm that I have correctly identified the translation and/or supply the missing information? Please do that by comparing the first paragraph of the story to the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User:Vasha77/HorlaFirstParagraphs comparison page]. Then let me know what exact translator credit is given, if any. And if it's a translation where I don't yet have the first paragraph, I'd like you to add it to that page.
 
 
 
Furthermore, sometimes this story was printed with the subtitle "or Modern Ghosts" and I suspect that this isn't always correctly recorded in the DB. If you see that subtitle (or other title variations) I'd like to know.
 
 
 
Thank you very much for the help! --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 05:17, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Well, the Penzler book has since been donated to my public library, I'll have to change the verification.  I'll look for the Parry anthology.  Back when I first started editing here there had been a discussion about giving translators a separate credit, but the discussion didn't go anywhere.  Still think it's a good idea, but, I just edit here. :) [[User:MLB|MLB]] 05:34, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
::Me, I think it's more than a good idea -- it's information that I (for one) have wanted to know in the past and found extremely hard to discover. Most of the secondary sources (Tuck, Bleiler, etc.) don't name translators consistently or at all. So there's potentially information the DB could contribute that's not readily available anywhere as yet. My experiences researching this one story (I've been working on it for the last three days) show that adding translator information to the DB will be a long, long process. Really a pity it wasn't done from the start. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 06:39, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:::There have been some famous and well-known authors who have done translations.  People like Brian Stableford, Anthony Boucher, Damon Knight, and C. J. Cherryh have some substantial translations under their belts, plus, a field for this would also list some professional translators who have done substantial work for the speculative field.  Another good example is that the explosion of manga has given us a number of translators that we should know about, like Andrew Cunningham, who have also translated prose novels from Japanese into English.  And since this site is quickly becoming more and more global, with editors from America, Canada, the U.K., France, Germany, Austria, Russia, Japan, etc., this is a field a long time needed.
 
 
 
:::But again, I've only done any editing since 2012, and I'm not sure that I've ever changed any protocols, because I also think that the editors of single author collections, as long as the editor isn't the original author, should be listed.  I put them in my notes now, put not always when I started. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 10:18, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:::: I asked a few weeks ago how close we are to getting the translators added as separate records (before I start adding a lot of books in Bulgarian) and the answer was that it may take awhile as there are some decisions and designs that need to be made and evaluated. Here was the conversation: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Ahasuerus#Translators here] -- the start anyway - I got a bit off topic at some point. :)  [[User:Anniemod|Anniemod]] 10:52, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
::::: Thanks for that pointer. I can see right off why design would be challenging. how do you deal with different forms of the translator's name? Using the current varianting system would't do; that would soon create a totally unmanageable number of title records, making the summary biography unreadable. But there must be some means of adding an [as by] note nonetheless. For one case, there's a translation of "The Horla" by Marjorie Laurie and another one wrongly attributed to her. Sometimes I'm not 100% certain who did the translation, which means that I'd hesitate to put down anything except "uncredited" in that field. And there are multiple uncredited translations, which I want grouped individually, not as a single "uncredited" record. Complicated, complicated, complicated. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 13:00, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
::::: Addendum (I slap myself on the forehead): those issues are essentially all the same as what arises with cover artists. Should be some way of adapting the artist system to translators. And then, too, you wouldn't have a separate title record for each translation, which would certainly be a good thing for the summary bibliographies. You'd go to the translator records to see each translator's publications grouped together. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 13:32, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== The Veiled Lady ==
 
 
 
Hello, I've put your submission on hold as it's perhaps interesting to discuss the matter of author's change with the PV1 of the second publication. IMHO a "joint" authorship may be of value. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:26, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 
: Greetings! The only reason the Phantom series [being non-genre] is here is because some of the titles tie to Basil Copper. Once the author is changed from Lee Falk, the connection is gone and thus no reason for that title to be listed [at the moment there are only four of ?? titles in the series listed]. I've already deleted the CDN edition, as Shawn should be listed as author, but doesn't qualify for inclusion. The same should be done for the US edition. Cheers!  --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 19:08, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::Well, the front cover has a woman being eaten by a giant frog (!), and we know how notoriously accurate book cover art is :).  So, until this book is actually read consider it deleted. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:::By the way, does anybody know who Frank Shawn is anyway? [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:50, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Sentinels from Space / The Ultimate Invader ==
 
 
 
I added pub month with explanatory pub note to your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?49021. [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 23:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== ''Wild Seed'' ==
 
 
 
It seems your submission for adding a publication is a mistake, as we seem to already have it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?54704 in store] (I've put it on hold). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 05:01, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I missed this page.  I'll delete mine.  Sorry. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 06:29, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Imago ==
 
 
 
Hello, I've put your submission on hold as I don't understand why you're not adding a new publication instead of just evoking the 2nd printing in the first printing's note field. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 10:08, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:All I would have been doing is repeating information.  Same cover, same price, same ISBN, same pages.  I just thought it would have been easier to have noted that the second printing was identical to the first rather than repeating all of the same information.  If you want I can create a whole new page if you want. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 18:19, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::As we strive to list all publications of a given title even if they are nearly identical (like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1345107 this one]), it's important that you enter the book you own as it's different printing than the one we ahve. By itself its sameness is valuable information. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 18:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:::No real argument here.  I see the value in such things.  It just seemed redundant, but, now I know.  I will fix. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 00:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== One Salt Sea ==
 
 
 
I've changed the Cover Art of {{P|357884|One Salt Sea}} and added a few Notes.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 22:10, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== The Squares of the City ==
 
 
 
Hello, I'm not sure that a simple rebinding of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?47726 this book] with strictly the same caracteristics constitutes a new publication. What are your thoughts on the matter? [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 13:08, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:Well, I've listed them before, and they've been accepted, I've seen others listed as well.  I consider them variants, (I have a couple of rebound Ace Doubles around here somewhere), as are the Scholastic Book Club editions, which are identical to the originals except for the Scholastic name pasted all over them.  Better safe than sorry I thought. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 17:23, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::Perhaps should it be entered under "Perma-Bound" like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?547328 this other one] (there is a grand total of three of them). I'm not convinced but as I'm not in the mood for a Nth inconclusive discussion, I'll release your submission for who wants to approve it. Thanks for your input. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:30, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:::Okay, I'm not trying to make mischief, I was just entering a book that I had.  There are a lot of Turtleback Books out there, and they are, I believe, the same as Perma-Bound bindings.  Check out [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?416750 this listing]. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:16, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Enemy Mind ==
 
 
 
Standardized publisher of {{P|595482|Enemy Mind}} from Silhouette Books to Silhouette. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:07, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:I was wondering about that one.  Now I know, thanks. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 17:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Analog Science Fiction and Fact, December 2016 Reviews ==
 
 
 
{{P|595590|Analog Science Fiction and Fact, December 2016}} has two reviews (on page 106) that for works credited to Meg Pontecorvo. However, the second one is for a work "Murder on Marawa Prime" that was not written by Pontecorvo. Instead, it is probably {{P|596562|this pub}} by Vonnie Winslow Crist. Would you mind double checking? Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:**Grump**Grump**Grump**  Oh very well, I'll go and check.  Hmmm, okay, lemme check.  Lemme get to page 106.  **Flip**Flip**  Ahh, here we go, well Inspector LaTondre, your careful investigations have proved once again that my mother's favorite nitwit is in desperate need of new glasses.  You're entirely correct in that the book reviewed was by Vonnie Winslow Crist.  I'll change the entry immediately. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 06:56, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Isle of the Dolphins ==
 
 
 
Hello, I took the liberty to change the publisher from "Kangeroo / Pocket Books" to "Kangaroo / Pocket Books" ([http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?44731 here]). Hope that I was right. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 07:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:Yep, it's fine. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 08:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Megapack (Wildside) Series ==
 
 
 
I approved a couple of series additions where it was multiple volumes (ex. Cat Megapack), but I have your remaining ones to create a "Megapack (Wildside)" series on hold. There is already a [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?3080 publication series] for the pubs. Looking at them, it does seem they are a publication series and not a title series. Thoughts? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 02:05, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:I created [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?35566 this one] a couple of years ago, and there are others.  I see no reason not to organize these collections/anthologies into a coherent series.  I used Megapack (Wildside) as somebody else may use the Megapack name and I wanted the publisher (Wildside) to be identified with this series.  These collections have been added gradually to this site, and after this time I thought that organizing them into some coherent findability before they get out of hand (there are a lot more of them) would be a good thing.  Also, I didn’t feel like digging out another box of my books to put on this site.  I’m lazy.  But I just work/edit here, the final word is yours. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::And the Megapack (Wildside) would be the parent series to the other smaller series.  If somebody doesn't know the exact title, but did know Megapack, could find all of these pubs in one series. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:::We make a distinction between title series and publication series. This would be a publication series which is already a way to organize them. As for someone not knowing the full title, the search function takes care of that. I'm not sure I see the point for bypassing our policies on this one. However, I'll hold off rejecting them if you wish to make a post at [[ISFDB:Community Portal‎]] to seek the larger community opinion. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 23:49, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::::I own none of these and probably won't in the near future, so, if you want, you can delete them, and I'll continue on with something else.  Someday you'll have to ask me about my ambivalence towards Wildside. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 00:29, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Detective Fiction Weekly ==
 
 
 
I accepted you addition of {{P|597283|Detective Fiction Weekly, August 03, 1953}}, but made some changes to match ISFDB conventions:
 
*As it is a magazine, it needs to have the issue date in the title so I changed it from ''Detective Fiction Weekly'' to ''Detective Fiction Weekly, August 03, 1953''.
 
*As it is a non-genre magazine, cover art & cover artist is not entered unless it specifically SF related. I removed the image URL.
 
Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Thanks, I can only plead that it was late at night and I was tired.  I know better. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 19:51, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Magic on the Line ==
 
 
 
I've added a few notes to {{P|360641|Magic on the Line}}.  --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 18:31, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Non-Genre Magazine Cover Art ==
 
 
 
I started a [[Rules_and_standards_discussions#Non-Genre_Magazine_Cover_Art|rules & standards discussion]]. Your note to moderator comment is understandable given the current state. Not sure the discussion will resolve everything, but we will see. In the meantime, I will leave your edit on hold. Please feel free to join into the discussion. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:42, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== 2016 publication of ''The Garden of Forking Paths'' ==
 
 
 
Hi, would you be able to reach your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?567457 this]? I'm wondering if there might be a translator credit, a copyright statement or anything other in this vein to possibly identify the translator for the Borges piece (after all, the story had its first English publication in a 1948 issue of this magazine? [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 19:37, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:I've already been asked this, so I guess I'm going to have to append the notes.  It was translated by Anthony Boucher. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 23:48, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::Well, it's not been merged accordibgly by the one who asked you, so I'll take the necessary steps. Thanks for taking another look at it! [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 06:03, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== John C. Winston (Alice omnibus) ==
 
 
 
Hi. We have a few books published as by John C. Winston rather than John C. Winston Co., including one ''Alice'' omnibus that you verified P{{p|390680}}. Momentarily I submit a change in the Publisher field--which should now also move Winston Clear Type Popular Classic Series under the longer name. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 20:52, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Analog Science Fiction and Fact, January-February 2017 ==
 
 
 
""2016 Index" is an index to all of the fiction and the non-fiction that Analog has published during the year of 2014. It does not list any of this magazine's 2014 artwork, including any of the issue's covers." should really say 2016 everywhere and not 2014 :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:Yes it should.  Thanx. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 21:33, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::Hi, Mark. Also, in your note about the Trend Offset Printing, you've made an unforgivable error in placing them in MA instead of FL. Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 17:49, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:::Please note also that there's still an unlinked review. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:53, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:::: ***Blush*** So embarrassed.  Now fixed. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 22:31, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Typo; Heather Brewer ==
 
 
 
Hi, I think the title of the excerpt [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1458098 Nineth Grade Slays] in your verified pub may be a typo.
 
 
 
Also, Heather Brewer has changed his name to Zac Brewer and I'm going to variant all the works to that name --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 01:59, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== ''The Amethyst Tears'' publisher ==
 
 
 
Hi. I accepted {{P|598952|The Amethyst Tears}}, but I changed the publisher from "Beagle / Ballantine Books" to "Beagle Books / Ballantine".  We already had the latter with a bunch of pubs, and it also already had the "Birthstone Gothic" series.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 03:09, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:p.s. I realized after writing this that you gave it a title series of "Birthstone Gothic", while the others all use it as a pub series.  I realize it's not clear which is more appropriate.  See what you think.  We should probably either remove it as a title series from this title or see if the community supports changing the pub series to a title series for the others.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 03:15, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
::p.p.s. I held the other submissions. I'm willing to conduct a poll if you'd rather not.  Let me know.  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 03:19, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:::Don't know what to say.  They are a series, just like the Deathlands, Rogue Angel, and others.  It's just that the books weren't published under a house name.  See http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/b/b5/Birthstone_Gothics.jpg what I mean. I might add the others in this series if they have any supernatural content, or to just complete the series. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 04:18, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
::::Yeah, I am not arguing with you.  But we have a bunch of verified pubs using it as a pub series instead of a title series.  So we need to poll/notify the verifiers before switching it.  I'll take care of it and then accept the submissions (and get rid of the pub series).  --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 11:37, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
:::::Well whatever the consensus agrees to, I'll agree to, no problem. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 14:58, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Possible Typos 30-Dec  ==
 
 
 
The following are possible typos in your verified pubs:
 
* willl - {{T|1475027|"A journey will I undertake, To Maelgwen's gates I willl come;"}} in {{P|1216|A String in the Harp}}
 
* aquaintance - {{T|1417124|PS's Feature Flash: An Old Aquaintance Well Worth Renewing ...}} in {{P|369515|Planet Stories, Spring 1940}}
 
* nineth - {{T|1458098|Nineth Grade Slays (excerpt)}} in {{P|390552|Eighth Grade Bites}}
 
Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 15:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:Will fix. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 22:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::Done. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 19:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC) [[User:MLB|MLB]]
 

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Captain Future, Winter 1941

A couple comments on Captain Future, Winter 1941: The pub notes have an incomplete sent sentence "Cover states that the title of this magazine is" on second line. I rejected your variant of "Letter (Captain Future, Winter 1941): Unpleasantries" and instead merged it with the existing variant (based on the prior reprint) as they are identical. I have your variant of "Letter (Captain Future, Winter 1941): Another Swerdlow Edorser" on hold. It is likely the prior reprint would have used the same title so I will ask Rtrace to double check the misspelling in that version. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC) Rtrace confirmed the misspelling was only in the database and merged the two records. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC) [edit] ASF Jan-Feb 2017

Hello, I've made some slight modifications to this issue. Hauck 11:03, 4 January 2017 (UTC) [edit] rewind

hi i added one unnumbered page to the count for http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?400563 because the about the author is on a lefthand page,therefore must be 159. gzuckier 04:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC) Okay, thanx. MLB 07:17, 7 January 2017 (UTC) [edit] Capitalization

I have corrected the capitalization of words such as "an", "from", "with", "the" in titles of some of Ian Watson's works. This affects your verified publication Solaris Rising: The New Solaris Book of Science Fiction. In future, do you want to be notified of such capitalization regularizations? --Vasha 08:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC) Oh no, go right ahead, anything you can do to make me look smarter than I really am. MLB 01:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC) [edit] One more malicious little mystery

Hi! I think I have found one more item worth adding to this: Caveat Emptor by Kay Nolte Smith. It features one distinct 'M' who is none other than Mephisto(pheles), as I read it. It should be printed five stories before the two Nolan items that are listed last. Would you like to add it? Stonecreek 15:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC) And then some: I think we consider Barry N. Malzberg as above threshold, so, wouldn't it be better to include all of his stories in this anthology? Stonecreek 20:16, 19 January 2017 (UTC) In order: •It will take me a couple of days or so to get a hold of the book so if you have a copy of this anthology nearby please feel free to add the Smith story. •Yes, I feel he is above the threshold, but, when I have attempted to add above-the-threshold author's stories, including one from Malzberg, from such places as Alfred Hitchcock's and Ellery Queen's they have been rejected. So, while I might verify or re-verify somebody else's listings, I try not to list them anymore. If you want to add the Malzberg story, go ahead, I have no complaints, especially since these non-genre stories tend to end up in these author's collections. MLB 22:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC) Thanks for the information. It seems you'd have to wait awhile anyway, as there seem to be more items of speculative contents (I'm going slowly through the book, reading 2-3 stories each evening): yesterday I read the one by Elaine Slater which is also science fiction about overpopulation. Alas, I only have a german edition, so I could only place the stories inside your verified copy without noting the beginning page. Maybe that'd be okay and you'll add the pages later? Stonecreek 05:05, 20 January 2017 (UTC) Sure. I only skimmed the anthology which is why I put in my notes that there might be other speculative fictions here. Put the stories in as you find them. I'll put the numbers in later. MLB 06:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC) I have added some items and will do so when I come across more. I'll post a final message when I have read the book in its entirety. Stonecreek 07:13, 21 January 2017 (UTC) Ready, steady, go! Finally, I got through the book and included the lot. It seems, though, that The Witches in the Closet by Anne Chamberlain has no speculative content. It's more a story on a mental breakdown: the protagonist's wife believes that there are witches in a closet / wardrobe, but there's no evidence for that. What's your opinion? Stonecreek 05:05, 8 February 2017 (UTC) Would it be okay to remove (and then delete) said story? Stonecreek 05:07, 16 February 2017 (UTC) As I said, I only skimmed the anthology but you actually read it, so, if you feel the story should be deleted and that there is no speculative content then go right ahead and delete it. MLB 09:05, 16 February 2017 (UTC) Thanks, Mark! I'll wait for some other answers on the topic until the weekend and then hopefully go ahead. Christian Stonecreek 09:21, 16 February 2017 (UTC) [edit] Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2015

I guess Getty Images as a platform should not be given as cover artist at this pub. The creative part is from CSA Images, see here. Unfortunately there is no name of a person to find. Only Pop Ink - CSA Images. --Zapp 14:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC) I'll go with your expertise in this. MLB 09:46, 21 January 2017 (UTC) [edit] Thomas or Timons Esaias in Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May 2016"?

Would you check your verified Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May 2016 and see if the author of "Postulate 2" might be Timons Esaias instead of Thomas Esaias? Thanks. --MartyD 02:23, 23 January 2017 (UTC) Evidently I must of typed this up using my feet instead of my hands. But it's been corrected. MLB 11:59, 23 January 2017 (UTC) [edit] Closing Lists

When closing HTML lists, you need to use "". The last couple of your pub edits have had "" at the end which starts a new list and causes the pub to not display correctly. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:13, 31 January 2017 (UTC) Sorry, I deserve a good slap for that mistake. MLB 00:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC) [edit] Asimov's

I have added story lengths to the Oct-Nov 2016 issue of Asimov's. --Vasha 23:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC) [edit] Filled in missing info for Analog issues

Hi, a few story lengths got overlooked in 2016 issues of Analog (October, November) & I added them from online sources. --Vasha 03:05, 7 February 2017 (UTC) I can't understand how I got that wrong, but thanks for the help. MLB 06:44, 7 February 2017 (UTC) [edit] Insomniacs chapbooks

Hi, it seems you transformed the contender NOVELs into SHORTFICTIONs, when it'd be correct to transform them to CHAPBOOKs and add the respecrive SHORTFICTIONs. Now the contender CHAPBOOKs have to be added to the individual publications. Christian Stonecreek 14:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC) [edit] Chapbooks without Contents Titles

Hello, there are five CHAPBOOKS (Insomniacs series) without contents titles that you PVed and that show up on our cleanup report, please correct them (note that they also had a length and a series info which is not allowed, I've corrected that). Hauck 13:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC) Well, let's hope I got it right this time. Then I gotta add the series data. MLB 00:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC) All done.MLB 14:53, 25 February 2017 (UTC) [edit] "Stragella"

If we know the "Stragella" art in your fascimile reprint is by Amos Sewell (how do we know that?), then should we change the credit on this to be the same, either on the same basis or by virtue of the fact that we've been able to identify it for the reprint? --MartyD 14:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC) I identified the artwork by looking up the story on this site, and, even though it is reproduced badly, the piece of artwork has Sewall's scrawl on it. I didn't change the original because I don't have that issue of Weird Terror Tales, just the facsimile. I can change it and notify the primary verifiers if you wish. MLB 14:52, 25 February 2017 (UTC) [edit] Cemetery Dance, #74/75, 2016

Hi, there's a typo in one of the titles on Cemetery Dance, #74/75, 2016 which you have verified. The Joe Hill novella Snapshot, 1998 should be Snapshot, 1988 and of course the artwork titles also. Thanks. --Jorssi|talk 22:20, 27 February 2017 (UTC) And another typo in this title. Should be 'disintegration'. --Jorssi|talk 22:46, 27 February 2017 (UTC) Yet another typo in this title missing an 'f' in Mindfulness. --Jorssi|talk 23:12, 27 February 2017 (UTC) Okay: Will change. MLB 23:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC) [edit] David Scheinkofer vs David Schleinkofer

Hi, I've changed David Scheinkofer for your verified copy of The Fog Maiden into David Schleinkofer, as I encountered the cover art here.--Dirk P Broer 13:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] "The Snatchers" author in Analog SFF March-April 2017

Might the author's name on "The Snatchers" in Analog SFF March-April 2017 be "McDermott" (m) instead of "McDernott" (n)? --MartyD 17:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC) Yes, noticed that after entering data. Will fix. MLB 18:27, 5 March 2017 (UTC) One more in that issue, that I missed on the original submission: Should Future-Proofing the Near Future be ESSAY instead of SHORTFICTION? I noticed it on the Editorial series insertion. --MartyD 19:08, 5 March 2017 (UTC) Yes, getting it fixed. MLB 19:12, 5 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] Twilight Zone nonfiction

... shouldn't be considered as a part of the universe (as it should bear comments on it). I accidentally accepted a submission to make the editorials into a subseries, but I'm inclined to reverse this. I have put the other submissions on hold while waiting for an answer. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 21:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC) Well, there's a non-fiction series for books on Star Trek, Star Wars, Space: 1999, etc. I'm sure that there are more Twilight Zone non-fiction books on this site, but I was just trying to get started to get all of these Twilight Zone series and books organized under one umbrella series title for easy reference. If you wish to reject the non-fiction book, then go ahead. MLB 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC) By-the-way, the scripts are fiction, not non-fiction, which should only leave the non-fiction books open to question. MLB 21:33, 5 March 2017 (UTC) However I can take the editorials out of the Twilight Zone universe though. MLB 22:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] Robert Bprslo

When I entered the latest Asimov's did I mean to type Robert Borski, why yes I did, and I have promptly dislocated my knee kicking myself for this. I will fix this when my submission is accepted. MLB 05:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] Fifth Voyage - poem?

I have a submission on hold that wants to change the item on p. 136 of this publication to a POEM. Can you please have a look? Christian Stonecreek 16:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC) No. Shock Totem runs a department in which every author discusses the creation of the work that was published in that issue. Sometimes they are a paragraph, and sometime they are almost a page in length. McHutchins had told me to put (afterword) after each one, and I guess I forgot this time. This item is already listed as a poem in this listing on page 45. I'll put (afterword) after all of the non-fiction in this column and that should clear that up. MLB 21:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC) Done, I hope that this helps. MLB 21:46, 11 March 2017 (UTC) Thank you, I'll reject the submission. Christian Stonecreek 07:51, 13 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] "Conan the Buccaneer", by de Camp & Carter

I accepted your publication update to this publication, but restored the publication date. Although it's annoying that whoever put that in didn't explain where they got it from, there's no reason to believe it's wrong. There are many other possible sources for a date: a later printing that listed a bunch of the earlier printings; Locus commenting on a new printing that was just sent them; an advertisement; a review; etc. Chavey 08:38, 16 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] Additions to verified "Frost Burned"

I have made some additions to your verified copy of Frost Burned. I added to Notes - more information about what is on copyright page, Canada price, notes about cover, link to archived Amazon site. I imported the Map and Author's Note from the verified hardcover edition, for consistency. OK? BungalowBarbara 22:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC) Sure, thanx. MLB 23:37, 19 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] Changes to John G. Hemry/Jack Campbell pubs

I am changing John G. Hemry's canonical name to Jack Campbell; this is affecting some of your verified publications. --Vasha 17:49, 31 March 2017 (UTC) [edit] Dark Voices 5 (and 2) content addition

Hi. In the Dark Voices 5 update that I have on hold, your proposed addition is ESSAY. Should that be INTERIORART? For that submission and the similar submission for #2 (where Linguist is the primary verifier), why do you have "(title page)" added to the titles? There doesn't seem to be any other interiorart, much less other pieces by Carson, such that disambiguation is necessary. --MartyD 10:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC) Yes, they are artwork. Did late at night, sorry. (title page) as added to one of the books before me, and I kept that designation when I added the artwork. If you want, I can delete that if accepted. MLB 20:50, 9 April 2017 (UTC) Parenthetical additions are used for disambiguation, not for explanation. There is one exception: maps, where we add "(map)". Anyway, since there is no need to disambiguate, I think you should not add the "(title page)". You could record in the notes that the only interior artwork is on the title page if you wanted to. --MartyD 21:18, 9 April 2017 (UTC) [edit] Blaze of Glory

Hi, for your verified copy of Blaze of Glory I've changed cover artist Xanaxa to Kanaxa, after reading the copyright page at Amazon.--Dirk P Broer 19:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

[edit] "Mrs. Midnight"

In your verified publication Ghosts: Recent Hauntings, "Mrs. Midnight" is recorded as a short story. However, the author's bibliography indicates it as a novelette, and indeed, I have counted the words as it appears in The Best Horror of the Year Vol. 2, and it is 10,000 words long. I've changed the record; please let me know if you disagree. --Vasha 18:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC) No, I'm fine with it. MLB 00:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC) [edit] Content page numbers in Lover Beware

Hi. I have on hold your proposed changes to Lover Beware that would add two to each of the page numbers Barbara recorded. Her numbers match what I see in the Amazon Look Inside -- although the text begins on the page numbers you've given, there's a title page for each two pages before that (the page numbers she used). The help's ...on which the content begins. is rather vague, but given the example of using the page number of a preceding illustration as the starting page number, I'd think using the title page's page number would be appropriate. Is there something somewhere that leads you to think differently? Thanks. --MartyD 12:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC) Well, I've been running on the assumption that the story starts where the content (story, illustration) starts, and not the title page. I don't consider, and I may be wrong, that title pages are art. The formula is: title page, blank page, story. Anyway, after double checking my copy, I found mine to be a later printing, and so anything I have to add to Barbara's entry is moot. I'll delete my entry, and create a new one. Thanks for making me check my listing twice. MLB 23:42, 15 April 2017 (UTC) Let's hope I got it right this time. MLB 00:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC) I have quite a number of these anthologies in my collection, but until this is cleared up I can't verify or add any. I don't think title pages are art, especially when followed by one or more blank pages. MLB 01:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC) [edit] Vampire Stories

What I changed in this publication was the date of the story "The Last Sin" to make it jibe with the date of the anthology. --Vasha 22:40, 15 April 2017 (UTC) [edit] Or Suggested by Books?

Please see this edit I have on hold. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:12, 16 April 2017 (UTC) Also this one. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC) No idea. When I follow the link I get this: "Moderator privileges are required for this option". So I don't know what you're referencing. MLB 00:00, 17 April 2017 (UTC) Sorry, thought you'd be able to see it. The first one is changing 'Or Suggested by Books?': Some Jamesian Touches in the Fiction of Ruth Rendell to 'Or Suggested by Books?' Some Jamesian Touches in the Fiction of Ruth Rendell" (removing hyphen). I assume based on the assumption was a subtitle & therefore didn't the hyphen due to the question mark. However, want to make sure it wasn't in the original pub. The second one was the "Night in the Forest" one posted below. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC) Gads, sir, that one is going to take a little detective work to find. It's been years since I did that one. I was still a snot-nosed punk of only fifty-three. So much has happened since then, so give me a little while to find it. MLB 07:08, 19 April 2017 (UTC) No problem. I have rejected the edit for now. Once you have a chance to check, you can update if needed. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC) [edit] "Night in the Forest"

Hi, is there a typo in this record from one of your verified publications? --Vasha 16:00, 16 April 2017 (UTC) Yeah. Corrected. MLB 00:01, 17 April 2017 (UTC) [edit] The Amber Witch Artwork

In your Five Victorian Ghost Novels, the The Amber Witch artwork was dated to 1843. However, the artist (Philip Burne-Jones) was born in 1861. While the omnibus may state the artwork is from the first printing, they probably mean the first printing of the Lady Duff Gordon translation (since that is the translation they used) which was 1894 and not the 1844 version. I have adjusted the dates as such. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:35, 30 April 2017 (UTC) [edit] Brain Child by John Saul

I added notes to Brain Child by John Saul Susan O'Fearna 03:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May-June 2017

Linked both dangling reviews in the issue (waiting for approval), changed one EDITOR to essay (In Times to Come (Analog, May-June 2017)) and added the magazine under its yearly title record. Annie 17:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC) Thanks. After entering Analog, and while awaiting approval my computer got sick and I had to take the poor dear in to the computer doctor to get well. Which is why I disappeared in the middle of entering the data for the latest issue of Analog. So sorry to have caused you any problems. MLB 02:17, 6 May 2017 (UTC) Not at all :) Figured you were offline for a bit so just went ahead and fixed it :) Annie 04:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] 'Snow-Drop"

Hi, Do you have your copy of Snow White, Blood Red handy enough that you can check the length of "Snow-Drop"? You have it down as a novelette in that publication, but the official bibliography says it is 6500 words. --Vasha 14:13, 12 May 2017 (UTC) It went into storage, however, my listing was a guesstiment, so if you feel if it is a short story, please go ahead and change it. MLB 23:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Comet, May and July 1941 facsimile reprints

Hello, I wanted to check the author attribution on the editorials in these two reprints (pages 68 and 123 respectively). I'm verifying the original magazine issues and in my copies, both of these are signed only "The Editor." Are the reprints this way as well? Thanks, Ldb001 01:59, 19 May 2017 (UTC) Yes. I think "The Editor" is more accurate, but I have been corrected numerous times, so I may have self-corrected. Please feel free to change my entries if you so wish. MLB 03:29, 19 May 2017 (UTC) Thanks for the quick reply! I'll change these to be "The Editor" in both the original and the reprint. I've been instructed in the past to adhere to the author name as stated, so I try to do so. I've been attributing the artists in this magazine somewhat differently too (strictly by the credits given on the contents page) but so far nobody has complained about the inconsistency between magazine and reprint. I'm writing about this particular case because another moderator raised the issue about this case. Thanks again, Ldb001 03:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC) One more question (the last, I hope) about these 5 reprint issues. The feature "The Spacean" has been entered in the reprints as fiction for three issues, but as essay for the other two. I've entered these as fiction for the original magazines, but in order to merge them we should agree on the "type" field for them. Is calling all of these fiction OK with you? Thanks, Ldb001 15:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC) Yes. I've always considered these "non-fact" articles fiction, but there seems no hard and fast rule about this. I should have changed the other two long ago. Fun stuff ain't they? MLB 07:14, 20 May 2017 (UTC) They're almost unreadable for me :-) But I haven't put a lot of effort into them. I think they must contain nods toward things that go completely over my head. They feel like something written in code, and if I could break the code they would make perfect sense. I'll go ahead and change the other two to fiction and merge with the magazine entries. Thanks, Ldb001 14:25, 21 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May-June 2017

Hello, I've added the missing Gord Sellar's text and uploaded cover to your PVed issue.Hauck 17:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC) Thanks. MLB 07:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Ancient Voices

I have your edit to Ancient Voices on hold. Did you mean to correct the author's name to Glynn Owen Barrass instead of "Glynn Owen Burrass"? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:06, 21 May 2017 (UTC) No cut and pasting here. I had to write everything down on paper from Amazon and then type it up. I need to write clearer! Will correct. MLB 00:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Flag in Exile

Replaced cover art of Flag in Exile with a scan of my copy (some of the Amazon covers have a white blob on the right hand side). --AndyjMo 20:15, 21 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Echoes of Honor

Replaced Amazon cover art of Echoes of Honor with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 15:17, 22 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Ashes of Victory

Replaced the Amazon Cover art of Ashes of Victory with a scan of my copy. Is there any reason why some of the contents are listed twice? --AndyjMo 15:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Planet Stories, Summer 1940 (Adventure House reprint)

Hi, me again: I'm starting to verify the early issues of Planet Stories, and I notice you've verified the facsimile reprints. So I may be checking with you about some odd and ends as I work through these. In this issue I have two letters with different titles from those you list in the reprint. Ackerman's is titled "Ackerman up at Bat!" rather than "Ackerman Up!"; and Wright's second letter is "Right Is Wright" rather than "Right Is Wrong." Could you let me know if the reprint indeed titles them differently? If they are the same, I will change both with your permission. Thanks, Ldb001 04:50, 23 May 2017 (UTC) Go ahead, most, but not all, of my pulp facsimiles just went into storage, so feel free to change these until I can get to mine. And now you've discovered my secret ninja superpower, making typos where none existed before. MLB 09:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC) Thanks, I'll make those changes. That superpower is shared by many including me. After I make edits, I wait for the moderator corrections to rain down. One author which was unreadable in the reprint but is clear in the original: "Win Edwards" is the artist responsible for "Sphere of the Never-Dead." I've added that as well. Finally, Kummer's first name in this publication is spelled "Frederick" with a "k" at the end, so I'll change this and variant to the proper spelling. Ldb001 13:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Jack London's non-genre stories

In some of your verified editions, you have stories by Jack London that are actually non-genre. I hope it's OK if I mark them as such. 1. In Quickie Thrillers: 25 Mini-Mysteries, "The Leopard Man's Story." It's a story about a circus lion-tamer killed by his lion. 2. In Tellers of Tales and The Golden Argosy, "To Build a Fire." Famous story about a greenhorn's Alaskan journey to a frozen end. I am going through a book of 46 Jack London stories and finding that a number of the ones we have in the DB actually are nongenre. London didn't write all that many speculative stories, but his suspenseful adventure stories are included in anthologies of "tales of terror". --Vasha 22:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC) Why some stories are listed on this site I don't know (and I'm looking at you Sherlock Holmes), but I usually list them if in an anthology, or verify them, if they have been previously listed on this site. You can list them as [non-genre] or delete them. Whichever feels best. MLB 22:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC) I am going to mark them non-genre because otherwise they'll probably get re-added sometime. --Vasha 22:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Planet Stories, Fall 1940 (Adventure House reprint)

Requesting to change a couple of small things in the reprint (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369518): (1) regularize the capitalization in a couple of reader letter titles, (2) on the assumption that it is in the reprint, add the letter by Charles Hidley. Thanks, Ldb001 01:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC) Oh yeah, go ahead, always feel free to regularize my capitalizations. I've listed Hidley's letters several times. I think all letters should be listed, but that's just me. MLB 01:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC) Thanks, I hate to bother you with things this trivial, but I don't like to presume anything with verified pubs. I can see both arguments for inclusion of letters. Cluttering of the db vs. completeness. One advantage of including all would be that the policy would be unambiguous. But I personally don't have an interest in unknowns who may only have written a letter or two. For the next issue (Winter 1940), another couple of small things: (1) another letter to add by Hidley, and (2) two artist credits for "Don Lynch" which are listed in the reprint record as "D. L." and "Lynch." Because we have no artist credits, I'd like to change these to the canonical name (unless the reprint adds additional credits beyond those in the magazine). Thanks again, Ldb001 03:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC) No bother. As these facsimile's were not reprinted in order, I probably entered these before I knew who Don Lynch was. Sadly, his career in sf didn't much outlast the pulps themselves. In the "too much information" department here's an example of Don Lynch's non-pulp artwork. MLB 04:03, 24 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Changes to Maupassant pubs

I am once again working on sorting out translations of "The Horla", so if you are notified of changes to any publications that involve Guy de Maupassant, that is what it is in regard to. I believe I haven't made any alterations that go beyond the information you provided the last time I queried you about these publications, but if you notice I've made a mistake, please do let me know. The only major thing I did was to separate out the translations revised by Dora Knowlton Ranous from the general uncredited translations. Otherwise, I just changed notes and dates. --Vasha 08:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC) I guess this is where I ask if the translations have caused any significant changes in the story over the years, and which translator has done the best job. I've read various translations of this story over my life, but have not done any significant studying of the text, being more of a casual reader. Who's done the best, or worst, jobs at these translations? MLB 14:50, 24 May 2017 (UTC) Well, I haven't read the more recent ones (those first paragraphs are gleaned from previews and such). But of the older ones, numbers 1-8 in the list, all of which I've looked into except Laurie... Believe it or not, I think the anonymous 1903 is quite decent. (Ranous's "improvement" makes the text less wordy in places, but not really to its benefit. Maybe she didn't consult the French.) I wish that some anthology editors had done a comparison. For example, the Everyman's Pocket Library book of ghost stories is beautifully designed and printed, acid free paper and the whole nine yards... but for whatever eccentric reason the editor chose to use the execrable Jamison/Boyd translation. --Vasha 16:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC) Okay, now I know what look-out for. Fred Pohl did an experiment. One of his stories was translated (into Chinese, I think) and he had the story re-translated into English and ended up with a completely different story. So, I guess that translations are often undependable, but for most of us, that's all we can get to read. Or watch if it's on film, but that's a completely different matter. MLB 20:16, 24 May 2017 (UTC) Yeah, there have been translations where you wonder if the translator was reading the same book. I suppose you heard about the minor stir that the rediscovered Icelandic Dracula caused last year. None of these differences in "The Horla" are nearly that extreme. I should add that I think the Brian Rhys translation in the older Everyman editions, 1930s to 1970s, is also good. --Vasha 14:42, 25 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Planet Stories, Spring, Summer, Fall 1941 (Adventure House reprints)

More requests for minor changes on the next three issues of the facsimile reprints. Most are tedious little nits but one or two might be interesting. Let me know if there are issues with any. I'll make the changes if you approve. Spring 1941 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346342): 1)Add letters by Hidley and Lynn Bridges. 2)Author's name for "Satellite of Fear" is given as "Frederick Arnold Kummer, Jr." (first name ending in "k"). Should be entered thus and varianted to canonical name. Summer 1941 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?375108): 1)Kummer's story is credited to "Frederick A. Kummer, Jr." on both story and contents page. 2)"Mutiny Aboard the 'Terra'" art is signed "Leon Rosenthal" (very small, perhaps unreadable in the reprint) so need to add artist's name to record to replace "uncredited." 3)The letter response by Reiss is just credited to "The Editor" so should be listed thus and variant to Reiss. 4) Lesser's letter should have "Boulders" rather than "Boulder" in the title. 5) Ed Smalle. He has three illustrations in Planet that are documented so far, and in all three cases his signature is clearly "Ed Smalle" rather than "Smalley." I think the editor's statement that his name was Ed Smalley was just a boo-boo. A Google of Ed Smalle gets a couple of hits for a comic book artist from that period who must be the same person. I'd like to change all occurrences of his name to "Ed Smalle." (added: I found en editorial reference to "Smalle" in the Fall 1940 issue, so I think this confirms things). Fall 1941 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346350): 1) The Raiders of Saturn's Rings: artwork title in the reprint record omits "The" and has "Ring" for "Rings." Both should be corrected. 2) Regularize case in letters. 3) Reiss's responses should be as "The Editor" and varianted. 4) Add Hidley letter. Winter 1941-42 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?346355): 1) Change all artist names to those credited (last name only). 2) "Zurk" should be by Richard O. Lewis, not Robert O. Lewis. Final one: Spring 1940 (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?369515) 1)Letter-writer Olon F. Wiggins is spelled thus and so needs no variant. 2) Case correction ("the") in last letter title. Thanks, Ldb001 02:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC) Let me answer some of these requests for changes. 1) When I first started editing on this site I was told not to use "The Editor" unless the editor was unknown, otherwise use the editor's name. Ditto for initials. Usually "The Editor" was used by editors before me. Some facsimile's were here before I came to this site (in 2012), and I just added to them or imported the basic contents from the various magazines. Be reassured, I've enforced exactly this rule (and used it myself for british magazines) as I don't see the value of interposing another level of data by using "The Editor" then varianting to the correct person. But It's just one of many moderator's advice, that's the ISFDB. Hauck 07:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC) 2) There is a very mundane reason as to why Hidley's letters started getting added to this site. When somebody started reprinting the Captain Future novels they also reprinted the columns from the self-titled magazine. Suddenly, and he was active into the sixties, his letters became eligible for listing here when before they weren't as they were now being reprinted in these anthologies. So, there are probably other letters out there waiting to be listed in already verified magazines. When you come across them, just feel free to add them. 3) I was also told when I first started editing here that unless the artist is credited, on the title page, full is to be used in the listing, i.e., Leo Morey for Morey. Which is what I try to do. See below. 4) As I'm handicapped and can't just pop over to my storage shed and look these older facsimile's up, I will take your word for most of these changes and correct what I can. MLB 06:57, 28 May 2017 (UTC) Yes, I think we all have gotten conflicting advice many times from different moderators. What I try to do is read the written policy and follow it. Sadly there is still much unwritten! For instance we're instructed to record authors exactly as they are credited, and I've also explicitly been told by a moderator to credit to "The Editor" when written. But like so many subjects each of us has received different instructions. I was reading the other day several discussions on whether to credit a letters column to "various" or to "The Editor." I saw a lot of discussion but as far as I could see it never resulted in a new policy. One of these discussions arose because some time ago I read a policy to use "N/A" for this purpose. Although it was the only written policy on the topic, I was told not to use it! So it goes. It sounds like we are in consonance about author credits: use the credited form, or if uncredited use the canonical form of the name. Generally I would not care much about these things: each editor to some degree chooses a preferred path. Policy should prevent that, but that's the reality. But I wanted the original and facsimile to agree as much as possible rather than unmerging one set of titles from the other and having the publications go in two different directions. In fact I was told by a moderator not to take that path. Thus making changes in the original required some coordination with the verifier of the facsimile. I apprecicate your addressing these questions and spologize for having to take your time with what are trivial mechanical details. All the best, Ldb001 14:38, 28 May 2017 (UTC) Apart from moderators having deliberate differing agendas (which is quite rare), the main problem is of coordination. With about twenty active moderators (but with very widely different levels of effective moderating -from nearly none to a few hundreds per day-) and an unknown number of contributors, this proves to be a near impossible task. As not every case can be thought about, debated and have a course of action decided, we (the moderators) usually have to do our best and try to keep a certain constancy. Depending on what is moderated (e.g. self-moderating only), this constancy is more or less wide-ranging. You're also victim of the extreme weakness of our decision-making process which is not formalized and so left many issues unresolved because of quite equally split opinions. Add to this the fact that some moderators (alas including me sometimes) on diverse grounds flatly refuse to acknowledge some written rules (based on their ambiguity or fuzziness or the fact that the exact reverse of the rules is also written elsewhere) and you'll have the main reasons for such differences of interpretation. But the main point is that we all try to do our best to offer the more accurate data as is possible. Hauck 15:03, 28 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs. Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories: "Taboo" by Geoffrey Household - An eastern European community is terrorized by a series of murders. The mystery is solved, but the terror, and other psychological effects, linger on. Non-supernatural - Stories for the Dead of Night; The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; The Dark of the Soul; The Second Pan Book of Horror Stories; Stories for the Dead of Night; Griezelverhalen 2; Van Lichtelijk Luguber tot Meedogenloos Macaber "A Rose for Emily" by William Faulkner - SUMMARY - Fireside Reader; Classic Tales of Horror and the Supernatural; The Dark Descent; The Dark Descent; The Arbor House Treasury of Horror and the Supernatural; The Arbor House Treasury of Horror and the Supernatural; The Lucifer Society; The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; The Medusa in the Shield; The Giant Book of Horror Stories; The Oxford Book of Gothic Tales; American Gothic Tales; American Gothic Tales; The Golden Argosy; Vóór Middernacht: De Beste Griezelverhalen "A Terribly Strange Bed" by Wilkie Collins - SUMMARY - Tales of Terror and the Supernatural; Tales of Terror and the Supernatural; Basil Rathbone Selects Strange Tales; Basil Rathbone Selects Strange Tales; Tales of Terror and Suspense; Tales of Terror and Suspense; Nightfrights; Nightfrights; Fireside Reader; Adventure Stories for Girls; Horror by Lamplight; The Wordsworth Book of Horror Stories; Mad Monkton and Other Stories; Fireside Reader; Masterpieces of Mystery in Four Volumes; In the Grip of Terror; Van Edgar Allan Poe tot Roald Dahl "The Three Strangers" by Thomas Hardy - SUMMARY - The Golden Argosy; Tellers of Tales "Leiningen Versus the Ants" by Carl Stephenson - A lurid and much exaggerated account of army ants, but not intended to be taken as speculative, I feel sure - The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; The Second Pan Book of Horror Stories; The Big Book of Adventure Stories "The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell -SUMMARY - Early September; Psychos; The Ghouls; The Ghouls; Alfred Hitchcock's Spellbinders in Suspense; Stories and Storytellers; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; The Big Book of Adventure Stories; Verhalen die Hitchcock Koos "Lamb to the Slaughter" by Roald Dahl - SUMMARY - Someone Like You (Dell); Lamb to the Slaughter and Other Stories; Tales of the Unexpected; Someone Like You (Livre de Poche); Rakkaani, kyyhkyläiseni / Joku kaltaisesi; Lammkeule und andere Geschichten; M'n Liefje, M'n Duifje "Contents of the Dead Man's Pockets" by Jack Finney - SUMMARY - The Third Level; The Clock of Time; The Clock of Time; Stories of Suspense; Stories of Suspense; The Pan Book of Horror Stories; The First Pan Book of Horror Stories; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; Night in Funland and Other Stories from Literary Cavalcade; Griezelverhalen 2 "Two Bottles of Relish" by Lord Dunsany - One of Dunsany's few non-speculative crime stories. SUMMARY - In the Land of Time and Other Fantasy Tales; In the Land of Time and Other Fantasy Tales; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; Horror Stories from Tales to Be Told in the Dark; The Unexpected; Death; Masterpieces of Horror; Owls' Watch; Tall Short Stories; Stories of Suspense; Stories of Suspense; The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; Stories for the Dead of Night; Stories for the Dead of Night; The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; Nacht en Ontij "A Note for the Milkman" by Sidney Carroll - SUMMARY - The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow; Nacht en Ontij "The Cone" by H. G. Wells - SUMMARY - Tales of Life and Adventure; Tales of Life and Adventure; Tales of Life and Adventure; A Harvest of Horrors; The Time Machine: An Invention and Other Stories; Human and Inhuman Stories; Human and Inhuman Stories; Human and Inhuman Stories; Selected Short Stories of H. G. Wells; Selected Short Stories; Selected Short Stories; Selected Short Stories; Complete Short Story Omnibus; The Cone; Works of H. G. Wells; The Country of the Blind and Other Selected Stories; The Third Pan Book of Horror Stories; Der gestohlene Bazillus und andere Geschichten "The Lodger" by Marie Belloc Lowndes - SUMMARY - Jack the Knife; Red Jack; Tales of Terror and Suspense; Tales of Terror and Suspense "The Terrapin" by Patricia Highsmith - SUMMARY - The Penguin Book of Horror Stories; The Twelfth Pan Book of Horror Stories Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC) My goodness, you have been busy. Like other editors, I haven't had the time to read everything, try as I might. So to comment on some of these: 1) I read The Cone by H. G. Wells as a child, but I can remember nothing about it. If you say it is not speculative, then I'll take your word for it. Being a Wells story, may the tag [non-genre] would be appropriate. 2) The Lodger is an influential suspense story. Influential on both the horror and suspense genres, but I have not read it, yet. Someday, someday. Again, perhaps the [non-genre] tag, with a note explaining it's influence on both genres. 3) Ditto for Two Bottles of Relish, a story that I never liked to begin with, although that's neither here nor there. 4) Ditto again for The Most Dangerous Game. The basis for a hundred speculative stories, graphic stories, and movies. See "2" and "3". 5) A Rose for Emily, a non-supernatural gothic horror story? Perfect for Alfred Hitchcock, but I'm on the fence about this one. 6) Leiningen Versus the Ants is also borderline, and the basis for hundreds of other man-against-nature stories, including the whole nature-goes-into-revolt, or nature-goes-berserk genres. I'm for keeping this one, with maybe a note stating how influential it is. I haven't read the rest, and I'll take your word for them. Perhaps you should take your work, substantial as it is, and start a discussion about these stories. All were here before I even started editing for this site. There are exceptions for "non-supernatural" horror stories. MLB 19:12, 30 May 2017 (UTC) I agree that these very famous suspense/adventure/gothic/etc. stories have influenced a thousand speculative stories, but they're not genre themselves -- it's not as if SFF writers never read anything but SFF! What sort of note would you suggest adding? (I'm on the fence about "Leiningen", too.) As for "exceptions for non-supernatural horror stories", the Project Scope Policy doesn't mention any, only "supernatural horror, ghost stories, gothic fiction with supernatural elements..." and it states that "[p]urely psychological horror works that feature no supernatural or fantastical elements" are excluded. --Vasha 19:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC) Examples of non-supernatural horror fiction on this site would be Psycho by Robert Bloch, The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle, An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce, and The Tell Tale Heart by Edgar Allan Poe. Bloch, Doyle, and Poe’s stories are crime stories, and Bierce’s is a war story. All four authors do a lot of genre blending in their fiction. And, quite frankly, I’m not even going to touch poetry. I also don’t count dreams, fugue states, and hallucinations as fantasy elements, but others do, and I’m not gonna argue with them. This is why so much literary fiction is listed here. I’ve yet to read too many horror anthologies that don’t have at least one borderline, or non-supernatural horror story. A lotta crime fictions, modern and pulp, have borderline elements. This is why all of those shudder pulps are listed on this site. I’ve had more than my fair share of stories rejected for being too borderline. Again, I think a lot of this is wasted on me, as other editors and moderators should be chiming in with their opinions . Although I do agree with you on several stories. As an editor I don’t make policy, and the stories that you point out are long standing contributions to this site. I think stories may have to be taken on a story-by-story basis. I suggest that you lift your research and paste it on one of the moderator boards. Just ask if these stories should be listed as non-genre with a note stating their influence on the genre. State your case, others do it, why not you? This might be a reason as to why the Sherlock Holmes stories are listed here. MLB 23:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC) Yeah, this should be a general discussion rather than divided into separate pages, I guess. --Vasha 23:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC) Well, these questions come up periodically, and should be asked. They keep everybody on their toes. MLB 23:36, 30 May 2017 (UTC) See Community Portal; the list of suggested stories is already longer there. --Vasha 00:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC) [edit] Added contents from another edition

I am working on the Cleanup Report that complains about collections and anthologies that have no contents. Right now I'm importing contents for such works when we have another printing of the same book (by the same publisher) that includes the contents. A book verified by you for which I've done this is: Foundation and Empire. I haven't included page numbers, so this book is still missing that detail. If you have the time, I encourage you to verify this against your own copy. Chavey 20:44, 1 June 2017 (UTC) [edit] Serial Vigilantes of Paperback Fiction

Image URL found for this pub. --Zapp 08:46, 5 June 2017 (UTC) Thanks. MLB 18:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC) [edit] Horror Stories

Hi Mark. I've got some questions on who to enter as editor of the 1930s pulp Horror Stories. You've verified the Oct-Nov 1937 issue and you've got the editor as Rogers Terrill, citing info from philsp.com. The citation you mentioned comes from here, I guess, and shows editors as being 1935 – 1939: Rogers Terrill; 1939: Loring Dorst (Dowst); 1940 – 1941: Steve Farrell (Farrelly). This is from the (about) link. Another link, the (Pub Info) link takes you to here, which shows the editor as being Steve Farrelly - Editor: Horror Stories, Jan 1935 – Apr 1941. Obviously a conflict. All other existing Horror Stories entries in ISFDB show Farrelly as editor, rightly or wrongly. I contacted Bill Contento with this and he replied "The entry on Horror Stories in SCIENCE FICTION, FANTASY, AND WEIRD FICTION MAGAZINES by Marshall Tymn and Mike Ashley lists Rogers Terrill as overall editor, no mention of Dorst or Farrelly. Bob Jones's essay "Popular's Weird Menace Pulps" in THE WEIRD MENACE pamphlet from OPAR Press 1972, says Rogers Terrell became Editorial Director of some 14 Popular pulps. Steve Farrelly is mentioned as an editor of Horror Stories, and that he died in 1940. Loring Dowst is listed as serving on Horror Stories in 1938. Unfortunately there are no exact dates. I have photocopies of the table of contents for Horror Stories but there's no mention of editors there. I don't know where the dates on Galactic Central came from, and Phil who runs the site just left for a month's vacation. This has likely raised more questions than answers!". So...we're left with questions. Do you think any of the existing editor info on Horror Stories should be changed, possibly with addition of notes? (Yours is the only prime verified issue). I was going to enter some of the missing issues and wanted to get some other input on it before going ahead. Also, I'll ask Ron to join the conversation since he's secondarily verified some of these issues. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 18:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC) Both FictionMags and Miller/Contento list only Steve Farrelly as the editor. Tuck states "Editor: Steve Farrelly with Rogers Terrill as Editorial Director" I'd defer to what is printed in the magazine, though I suspect the editor is not credited. Tuck's characterization may explain why Tymn/Ashley lists Terrill. We generally stick with the main editor, but Terrill could certainly be mentioned in the notes. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC) My copy is one of those I picked up second-hand at a flea market, as I wasn't born until twenty-four years later, and my Dad, who claimed to have read some of these pulps was only five. So, this horribly mangled, non-inherited, second-hand edition only contains the body of the pulp; no contents or indicia page. Even the cover image comes from a deck of shudder pulp non-sports trading cards. I'm pretty sure that Terrill wouldn't have read the contents of all fourteen pulps, so I can change the editor to Steve Farrelly if you feel that this is the proper thing to do. MLB 02:54, 8 June 2017 (UTC) Thanks to both for responding. Looks like the real answers are lost in time. I'm going to go with what seems to be the preponderence of evidence with Farrelly as editor with a note about Terrill. Maybe Phil of Galactic will have some insight for us when he returns from vacation but the odds are against it. Mark, if you changed yours it would at least clean up the EDITOR records a bit, but do as you see fit. Doug / Vornoff 05:23, 8 June 2017 (UTC) [edit] Monstrosity ebook

Hi. Your Monstrosity submission that I have on hold would change the existing entry for the paperback into an ebook and lose the paperback's information. Did you perhaps mean to clone instead and accidentally edited in place? --MartyD 11:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Yeah, I meant to clone. I'll do it over. Thanks for catching that. MLB 20:10, 17 June 2017 (UTC) [edit] Cloning Backwards in time

Hello, you submitted the cloning of the 2016 publication of this title with a 2014 date. In such cases, don't forget to adjust the 2016 dates in the record, lest it leads to a lot of cleaning up afterward. It's usually better to change all the dates in the existing publication in one go before submitting the cloning. Thanks. Hauck 02:18, 21 June 2017 (EDT) Another polite reminder to be careful when your new clone is a previous publication than the one you are cloning from - while it is a single publication, it is easy to fix the dates but once the titles are in multiple publications, it needs to be done one by one - the last two clonings you had were like that. If you would like to submit the cloning without waiting for the re-dating to go through, add a moderator note in the clone request to tell the moderators to make sure the date change you also submitted had gone through :) Thanks! Annie 02:41, 30 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] Horror Stories / Costanza masthead art

Hi Mark. Another question on Horror Stories, which relates to your verified issue, Oct-Nov 1937, and specifically the artwork by Costanza on p. 120 for the "Chamber of Horrors" column. This appears to be masthead art and I'll bet it's the same as the art I entered on the March and May 1940 issues. I went ahead and varianted the latter to the earlier but Hervé has brought up some questions on my talk page about entering masthead art. If you want to check the art against your copy, it can be found here. Any input you have would be appreciated. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 10:55, 21 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] CreateSpace

I may be telling you something you already know... but according to discussions here and here, CreateSpace isn't a publisher, but rather a printing and production service (a subsidiary of Amazon, which is probably why they insist on naming it in the "publisher" space on their pages). So we don't list it as a publisher here, instead leaving a blank space (currently -- even though the help says to put the author name; I believe that the help will be updated, but -- as with every other discussion! -- the discussion is still ongoing.) Therefore, I'd like to change all of your verified publications that list CreateSpace -- Astounding Stories of Super-Science: Vol. 1 No. 2 February, 1930, and maybe others I haven't found yet. Thanks! --Vasha 18:06, 23 June 2017 (EDT) If the copyright page that I can view actually says published by (listed any author) then I list the author as publisher. CreateSpace is has always been a default setting for me, but I'm more than willing to list anything else. Why not "uncredited"? MLB 01:47, 24 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] Galaxy's Edge #1

Hi. I submitted an edit to re-order the first page of the Book Review on your verified above to put the column name first. Also I noticed on my copy that the title of that column is called "Book Reviews", not "Books". I don't know if that's the same in your copy. Doug / Vornoff 20:18, 24 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] Extracted

Hello, I have your addition of Extracted on hold because it seems like we already have it: over here. Am I missing something that makes it different? Annie 02:48, 25 June 2017 (EDT) Nope, looks like I wasted both of our times. MLB 03:21, 25 June 2017 (EDT) Now I see what went wrong. The author is listed on this site as RR Haywood instead as R. R. Haywood as per ISFDB protocol. Permission to change his name on this site. MLB 03:34, 25 June 2017 (EDT) I just changed it - no reason to make you wait for all the edits to get approved. I cannot find a reason why he/she needs to be one of the exceptions :) If someone insist it needs to be RR, they will need to write a note explaining why and leave it on the account :) Feel free to copy all the new data your submission had into the existing publication and submit it again. By the way - for ISBN-less books that have ASIN, the new Advanced search for external IDs is very helpful.Annie 03:50, 25 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] Cordwell Turnbull

Or is it Cadwell Turnbull in the new Asimov's? Mine is still somewhere in the USPS system so cannot check so can you double-check? :)Annie 17:54, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

      • Blush*** ***Blush*** I'm so embarrassed. I created a ham-fisted typo. Will correct. MLB 19:31, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

"a" looks a lot like "or" when the letters are not that big (that's my story and I am sticking to it:)) Thanks for the quick check! Annie 19:37, 25 June 2017 (EDT) Just a notification that I fixed issues with 2 of the reviews in the issue: the name of Michael Miller was misspelled as Michel (if it is indeed Michel in the book, you may want to add a note in the review record) and I added the hardcover of "A Hundred Thousand Worlds" so I can link the review :) Annie 01:18, 26 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] Who Is Willing?

Hi, Approved Who Is Willing? but shouldn't the format be "digital audio download"? Audible are downloadable so it matches. Annie 21:14, 25 June 2017 (EDT) I don't know. The Amazon listing only states that this is an audiobook. It could be a digital audio download, or on a CD. I know nothing about Audible. If you say it's a digital audio download then I'll change it. MLB 21:19, 25 June 2017 (EDT) Actually it says "Audible Book", not just AudioBook in the title and then in the details ("Audible Audio Edition"). Audible is an audio download only company so if you see Audible, it means downloads. They have audiobooks, dramas and radio-programs though - thus the type saying audiobook in the details. (sorry if you know that already). :) Or are we looking at different pages in Amazon. The ASIN leads here. Annie 21:25, 25 June 2017 (EDT) No, it's the same one. **Sigh** I knew nothing about Audible, but now I know. Will change. MLB 00:21, 26 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] Mort

Hello, I had to hard-reject 3 of your variants because one of the titles is not there anymore so it cannot variant into it (or from it). I found 2 that seemed to be what you were trying to do (the result is here but can you check the entries and resubmit any that I missed? Thanks! Annie 19:35, 27 June 2017 (EDT) Everything looks fine, although there is still one trade paperback to add to this entry. Self-published books are fun to enter ain't they? I have since found out that Amazon is giving the wrong publishing dates for Duncan's ebooks! Sadly, very few people seem to be interested in listing these indie fantasy/horror books, or updating these authors. MLB 20:05, 27 June 2017 (EDT) Oh, yes. They are a riot. Part of the reason for some of the cleanup, the whole ASIN moving to new field thing and so on, is to allow some of these to be added automatically when they do not have ISBNs. That should help somewhat. If you get bored, some help here won't harm :) Other from that - it comes down to priorities I guess - too many books, too little people to add them. I tend to work through an author when I stumble on one that needs it but it does not happen too often. Or whole small publishers. Thanks for working on these. :) Annie 20:16, 27 June 2017 (EDT) I still have a ton of my own books to list on this site, but my main interests are pulp fiction, horror/indie horror, juveniles from before 2000, detective fiction, pre 2000 sf, fanzines (along with Biomass Bob), and media tie-ins. F'r instance this and this are all mine. Unfortunately, I live on a disability, so I can only do so much, so your job is still safe. :-) MLB 20:42, 27 June 2017 (EDT) [edit] The Oldest Living Vampire Saga: Volumes I, II & III

Hello, I wondered if I should reject that one and just do it manually but figured I can fix it after the approval. You had misspelled Joseph Duncan as James Duncan in the contents (autocomplete from your browser maybe? James Duncan seems to be someone that wrote back during the pulp times and you are working on those...). I fixed it and did some merging to get the publication and author back on track. And I added the content to the title record while I was around. The result is here and the content is visible in the series list :) Annie 00:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)