User talk:Jeffrey1

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Welcome!

Hello, Jeffrey1, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Hauck 18:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Chaining the Lady

Hello, I've approved your submission for this publication (result is here). I've just add the currency and regularized the publisher (form "Avon Books" to simply "Avon"). Perhaps may it be interesting that you add some data in the notes as the price of your 1984 copy is inferior to the 1985 re-issue. Can you confirm the date? Note that you can also upload a scan as the artist seem to be different from other Avon printings. I've rejected a second quasi-identical submission. Hauck 18:15, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

It's no use to upload the cover twice, as disk space is one of our concerns, a moderator will have to delete the superflous images, I've linked the cover to the publication. Hauck 10:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I've changed the date of your verified publication to "0000-00-00" (it wil be displayed as "unknown"), the price that you gave seems to indicate a 1986-1987 printing, coherent with the change of cover. Diverse sources (this one for example) give a $2.95 price for the 1984 printings. If you have additional data (content of the copyright page, number line) that may shed a new light on the subject, please answer here. Thanks. Hauck 10:47, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for linking the cover! I couldn't figure out how to do it. My date of the edition comes from the "84" printed in the cover painting next to the artist's logo: "(c) 84" The date inside says "First Avon Books printing March 1978" but that's inconsistent with the date on the cover. The price is right there on the front cover. Jeffrey1 05:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, Avon is one of those publishers that don't give a lot of information to pinpoint the date (or the prinitng). Is such case, it's better to enter an unknown date in hope that some secondary source may help later. The enter the image, when you've uploaded the image (here), you have to "go" to it by clicking on the hyperlink just below (here "CHNNGTHLDL1984.jpg‎"), it will take you to the image's URL (here "http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/a/ae/CHNNGTHLDL1984.jpg") that you will be able to copy and then paste in the "Image URL:" field. Hauck 11:19, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Chaining The Lady

When accepted I cloned your submission on this book. However, you should list what printing your copy is, and if it is the same as mine, feel free to take my notes and delete my submission. If your printing is different, you can still take liberally from my notes. I got hammered for not listing the printing of a book when I first started out. MLB 02:51, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Die Terranauten, #28: Die Psi-Sucher

Hello, the fact that this cover is the same as the one used for Anderson's novel should be materialised by a variant link, not entered in the properties of the image. I've deleted the info.Hauck 12:57, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

I've rejected two submissions. Do you need assistance in varianting covers? Hauck 13:11, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
I would like some help, yes, please!
OK, in this case I've already done the varianting for you but the principle is the following:
1) You usually start with a book which has a re-used cover, to stay with Whelan consider this french publication which borrows the artwork of that one. So we need to materialize the fact that the french cover (Les feux d’Azeroth) is a variant of the US (Amazons!) one.
2) you need first to know the Title Record # of the original cover (a "Title Record #" (or Title Record Id) is an unique numeric identifier for a title record of any kind (cover, novel, essay, etc...). You can obtain it by clicking on the "Cover" hyperlink on the original publication page, this will lead you to the COVER title record and you'll be able see its Title Record # on the top right of the screen, in this case it's "237421".
3) with this number in mind, you'll have to go to the "variant" cover record, via its publication record that will lead you to the variant cover record.
4) at this level (the variant cover title record), you'll have to create the link between those two records by using the "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" link on the left, then using the top of the screen ("Option 1") and just enter the "master" (the original) Title Record # into the "Parent #:" field (remember it's 237421) and then submit.
Hope that my explanations were clear, this may sound complicated but, you'll quickly get the hang of it. Hauck 14:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

OK,thanks a lot!

Your recent submissions

Hello, I took some action based on some of your recent submissions:

  • for Das Buch Corum, I've varianted the cover art.
  • for Der scharlachrote Prinz the varianting is already done as can be seen following the link of this page, ditto for Die Königin des Chaos (see here).Hauck 13:56, 12 April 2018 (EDT)
OK, thanks a lot! Is that something I could've done myself?
Yes for the first point by the method outlined in the thread just above this one. No for the second point as work has already been done. Hauck 15:06, 12 April 2018 (EDT)


OK, thanks, I'll try using the above method next time.

Le cygne et l'oiseau de feu

Cover art should be the same title as the publication (with a few exceptions). I'm not exactly sure what you were attempting to achieve, but if the cover art has a title, it can be added to the notes field of the cover art title record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

So added, thanks.

The Final Encyclopedia, Volume 2

Two different titled artwork should only be varianted to each other if they are the same art. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:55, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

The cover is a wraparound, the right side is used in "The Final Encyclopedia" and the left side is used in "The Final Encyclopedia 2." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jeffrey1 (talk • contribs) .
If I understand you correctly, half an original image was used for one publication and the other half was used for the other publication? If so the cover records should stay separate. You may add a note to each cover art's title record describing the relationship if you wish. They would only be varianted if a publication contained the whole artwork, either as a cover or as interior art (in which case the interior art would be the parent and both cover arts would be varianted to it). We record works as they are published. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:04, 22 April 2018 (EDT)

There's a similar situation with "The Nonborn King" and "The Golden Torc." The same wraparound art, but reversed.

Le cygne et l'oiseau de feu

I rejected your update for 3 reasons:

  • Even when a cover uses a named artwork, the coverart object name always matches the name of the book. The actual name of the art piece can be added as a note.
  • The coverart belongs to a PV'd publication and changes like that needs to be discussed with the verifiers before being done
  • The new "name" contained a link and an explanation - and even if the rename was legitimate, the data should have been split.

I've added the data you added to the note of the coverart and notified the PV. Annie 00:35, 22 April 2018 (EDT)

OK, thanks. I'm only trying to do this right.
No worries at all. A small change was needed in this one as well. When using an Amazon cover, we need the link to the image (minus the additional formatting parameters) and not the address to the page where the book is. If that was not a copy/paste mishap, check the Amazon section here. And thanks for tracking down this cover! Annie 01:38, 23 April 2018 (EDT)

Pieces of Six

Can you clarify the note here? I do not seem to be able to locate any duplicate records? However, this is the coverart record, not the book record - most books will have both records (and sometimes even an interiorart named the same way). Is that what you meant? If so - then it is not a duplicate and this is how the system is supposed to work. If not, can you point me to the duplicate record? Annie 01:41, 23 April 2018 (EDT)

Sorry for the confusion.

Here's a link to the other record: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1592859

As near as I can tell, it's exactly the same publication as the one to which I recently added cover art.

Ah, I see. No - they are different - this one is the hardcover and this one is the paperback. We consider these two different publications. But the covers did need merging which I had done: here. Thanks! Annie 02:05, 23 April 2018 (EDT)

The Art of Michael Whelan: Scenes / Visions

The book has 4 (very) active PVs. Can you please discuss the change with them before this update can be approved? Thanks! Annie 16:45, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

The same for this update. Thanks! Annie 16:49, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
Hi, Annie recruited me to help shepherd these through while she's away. Let me know if you need any help. Thanks, --MartyD 22:04, 4 May 2018 (EDT)
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