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== Recent Additions ==
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== Go Quest ==
  
Thank you! I'm trying to follow the guidelines, and hope I will get better with time.
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5858329; Minor fix to note's C$ price. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)
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:Approved. Thanks for catching the typo. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:51, 13 January 2024 (EST)
  
[[User:Jamesmclellan|Jamesmclellan]] 13:09, 1 January 2022 (EST)
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== Riding the Nightmare ==
:No problem. We don't expect new users to understand everything right away. ISFDB has some conventions that need learning so please check out the help links in the welcome message on your talk page. And please let us know if you have any questions ([[ISFDB:Help desk]] is a good resource for asking). By the way, you can just respond to the posts on your talk page. We like to keep discussions collocated and people will watch a page they posted on for responses. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 13:13, 1 January 2022 (EST)
 
  
== Strangest of All ==
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Hi, thanks for verifying my very first edit. However, I've obviously done something wrong. The stories on this collection (except 1) are all on the database already and they appear duplicated now instead of the stories already on the database being linked to the collection.
  
Not a change to the pub itself, but I've changed the weblink on our verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?774527 Strangest of All] to Julie Novakova's site, which still hosts the various formats to the digital pub. The European Astrobiology Institute appears to be [https://europeanastrobiology.eu/onewebmedia/Strangest%20of%20All%20Anthology%20of%20Astrobiological%20SF.pdf no longer hosting it]. Cheers. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 04:16, 10 January 2022 (EST)
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The story "Voices in the Night" first appeared on a 2018 anthology named "Uncertainties, volume III", edited by Lynda E. Rucker which is not on this database. I got the publishing date off Goodreads.
:Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:32, 10 January 2022 (EST)
 
  
== Swfritter's application for self-approver status ==
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The story "The Dragon's Bride" is already on the database, but the version included here is a "revised and expanded version" to novella-length as is stated on the copyright page of the stories in the collection. I don't know if it should be linked to the story here or create a separate listing with a (expanded) credit as I submitted.
  
When you have a moment, could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard#Application_for_self-approval_status Swfritter's application for self-approver status]? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 09:20, 26 January 2022 (EST)
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Thanks a lot. {{unsigned|Delage82}}
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:When you type in the content records of a publication, it will create new title records for each of the contents. When the contents already exist in the database, it is better to use the Import options and import the existing records. When there are duplicates, you can go to the publication record and click the "Check for Duplicate Titles". This will give you a listing of items that match in title, author, and type and allow you to merge them. I have done that for this publication.  
  
== Friend ==
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:When we have revised / edited works, how we handle them depends on how different the works are. If the changes are minor, we would have one record and add a title note stating that there are revisions for certain versions. When the changes are more extensive, we leave them as separate records and add title notes. I have done that here. We would only include the "(expanded)" if that is how it appeared on the title page which doesn't sound like it.
  
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?17664; I left a message about this book months ago somewhere on these boards and ran across the book again recently; what I believe is that the printings are for Friend while the 1986 date is the first for Deadly Friend because that's when the Wes Craven movie came out with the same title, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_Friend, and so the book was retitled to match. --[[User:Username|Username]] 09:34, 5 February 2022 (EST)
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:Let me know if you have any questions on the above. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)
:Your submissions have been unrejected & approved. I have added additional notes to provide context. Using the moderator notes in these cases would save a lot of time. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 10:53, 5 February 2022 (EST)
 
  
:: Great; also, while I was on Google Books' Deadly Friend page I searched for cover art and there's a credit on the copyright page but it's hidden from view. So if someone knows how to get it or can find a copy online with a photo of that page then the artist can be entered. --[[User:Username|Username]] 11:06, 5 February 2022 (EST)
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== Girl in a Swing Cover Artists ==
  
== Callander titles ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1503211; I discussed covers on RTrace page recently and I don't think UK HC should be by Murray but instead by Reginald George Haggar. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:32, 5 February 2024 (EST)
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:Updates made. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 5 February 2024 (EST)
  
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?2923 Aquamancer], would you mind if I changed the page count to [8]+289 and add the map title on page [6]?
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== Aesop's Fables ==
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?10931 Dragon Companion], would you mind if I change the page count to [10]+321 and add the map title on page [8]?
 
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<br>For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?11010 Dragon Rescue], would you mind if I change the page count to [10]+225 and add the map title on page [8]?
 
<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 10:16, 10 March 2022 (EST)
 
:I'm fine with that except that Aquamancer should be [10]+289 and Dragon Rescue should be [12]+225. If the unnumbered pages are going to be added, then they all should be included. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:57, 10 March 2022 (EST)
 
::Thanks for the clarification of the unnumbered pages count. I think I've generally been doing it right but the location of the half title page in these two pubs threw me off for some reason. [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 22:10, 10 March 2022 (EST)
 
  
== Frankenstein and the Whiz Kid ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?185624
  
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?887914; ISBN is 0315039485 on Amazon.com; is that usable? --[[User:Username|Username]] 18:34, 15 March 2022 (EDT)
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hiya mate sorry to hassle you i'm doing the contents of a version of aesops fables that I own that uses the 1912 vernon jones translations. Ive been varianting each fable to the parents that were enetred by RTrace with the perry index number as the series number and with ancient greek as the language but then i clocked that there was a few others apart from mine that werent linked to the series. they're the ones with a second author that youve done some editing on and i thought hang on i better stop and check to see why those ones aren't part of the series before i do any more of mine. cheers from Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 16:34, 31 March 2024 (EDT)
:Yes, just add a pub note that source of ISBN is Amazon.com. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:41, 15 March 2022 (EDT)
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:If they have two authors, they would be retellings or adaptations and not direct translations of Aesop's originals. You can add them to a series if you want, but I would suggest a subseries (perhaps something like "Aesop's Fables Adaptations"). They would not be varianted to the original works as they are not the same as the originals (i.e. not pure translations). Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:33, 31 March 2024 (EDT)
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::i'll leave them alone I just wanted to make sure the ones i was doing are valid. cheers mate - Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 20:05, 31 March 2024 (EDT)
  
== sorry for not responding ==
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== Changes to "Baen Fantasy" and "Baen Science Fiction Books" ==
  
Hello, sorry for not responding to the edits I posted. I have no clue how to use wiki stuff. :-( I'm not even sure if this is going to work?
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A quick note to let you know that publisher records "Baen Fantasy" and "Baen Science Fiction Books" are in the process of being converted to publication series under "Baen Books" as per the outcome of [[Rules_and_standards_discussions#Baen_vs_Baen_Books_publishers_redux|this Rules and Standards discussion]]. This will affect one or more of your primary-verified publications. The only affected fields will be "Publisher" and "Publication Series". [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 19:33, 4 April 2024 (EDT)
  
John <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Jpirish|Jpirish]] ([[User talk:Jpirish|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jpirish|contribs]]) .</small>
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== Planetstuck ==
:No problem. We like to keep discussions collocated so if someone makes a post on your talk page, you can just respond to it (click the "edit" link on the same line as the post title). You should also sign your posts by clicking the signature button (the second to the right in the butttons above the edit window) which will insert "<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>" (when saved this will automatically add your signature). --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:27, 3 April 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Re: All Work and No Play ==
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●  To answer your question on [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:MLB&action=edit&section=361 my message page], yes, it is clearly "<b>Planetstuck</b>".  One word, on both the contents page, and on the title page. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 22:14, 4 April 2024 (EDT)
  
Re: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5272061
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== He May Wear My Silence ==
Hi JLaTondre, thanks for looking over my submission; while I agree that the "novel" itself is not speculative fiction, I've written a rather extensive foreword in the book that I think should qualify which is the main reason I submitted the title here.
 
  
I'll be happy to start a discussion on the community portal though if you think the decision is best made by a larger consensus.  I'm fairly inexperienced here.  Do I just post it as a question there and let people chime in?
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You misunderstood my question. I did not ask why you listed that imprint, I asked why the ISFDB cannot list publisher imprints on the same page as its publisher, thereby providing a complete and cohesive record of the publisher's work all in one place.
 
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[[User:Moonshine|Moonshine]] ([[User talk:Moonshine|talk]]) 13:09, 9 April 2024 (EDT)Moonshine
Thanks. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Thuff2000|Thuff2000]] ([[User talk:Thuff2000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thuff2000|contribs]]) .</small>
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:The ISFDB does not currently provide a method to create a hierarchal grouping of a publisher and its imprints (maybe someday it will). At the moment, if someone [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=Starship+Sloane+Publishing&type=Publisher searches for Starship Sloane Publishing], they will find both the publisher and imprint listing. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:00, 9 April 2024 (EDT)
 
 
:I have gone ahead and made the post for you. See [[ISFDB:Community_Portal#All_Work_and_No_Play|here]]. You are welcome to add additional information or otherwise contribute to the discussion. But yes, it is just a matter of posting a question there and letting people chime in. A couple of wiki items: We like to keep discussions collocated so if someone makes a post on your talk page, you can just respond to it (click the "edit" link on the same line as the post title). You should also sign your posts by clicking the signature button (the second to the right in the butttons above the edit window) which will insert "<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>" (when saved this will automatically add your signature). --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:26, 3 April 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Casperl ==
 
 
 
I've made an edit changing "unknown" to Leon Moran; https://books.google.com/books?id=TCtCAQAAMAAJ. Don't know what that mark over the "e" is, because he was an American. --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:58, 11 April 2022 (EDT)
 
:Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:37, 11 April 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Squad D ==
 
 
 
After adding links from that old Netherlands Stephen King page recently I saw "Squad D" was approved by you so I checked WorldCat and saw that my note from last May needed updating because since then a couple of other libraries got copies of Shivers VIII, for a total of 3. However, just as I was about to complete the edit I noticed the Amazon link I provided back then is gone, and that you apparently deleted it some time after my edit was approved. Not that it matters much now because the story is more easily readable (and printable) from that King page, but what was the reason for doing that? Have I forgotten that you let me know you were deleting it or did you never inform me at all? If I'd have known I probably would have searched and found that King page much sooner; I'd hate to think that people paid money to buy that over-priced Shivers book just to read King's story, incorrectly thinking it wasn't available anywhere else, because that claim was widely proclaimed all over the internet. I'm going to just delete my note now because there's no reason for it to be there anymore. --[[User:Username|Username]] 20:05, 20 April 2022 (EDT)
 
:Publication specific links belong at the publication level, not the title level. It is also redundant with the Amazon links the s/w creates automatically. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:01, 21 April 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Slewfoot ==
 
 
 
I added interior art credit in one bulk item to {{P|852355|Slewfoot}} by Brom [[User:Ofearna|Susan O&#39;Fearna]] 00:36, 26 April 2022 (EDT)
 
:Not sure how I missed that especially given I added the pub note regarding the interior art. Thanks for catching that. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:19, 26 April 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Master and Fool ==
 
 
 
For [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?21607 Master and Fool], would it be OK if I make the following changes?
 
<br>1. Change the page count to [10]+645+16
 
<br>2. Change the start page number for "The Barbed Coil (excerpt)" to 3 and add the note "The book ends on page 645. The page numbers restart from 1 for "The Barbed Coil" excerpt."
 
<br>3. Add title "Master and Fool (map)" by uncredited on page [8]
 
<br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:51, 12 May 2022 (EDT)
 
:No objections. Thanks. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:58, 12 May 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Hexagon SF Magazine ==
 
 
 
Before I add the missing issues, any objection to changing the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?59537 series] name to 'Hexagon' (You are a PV and moderated the first few issues)? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:21, 12 May 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
:And while you're at it: is [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2767962 this] really a piece of fiction? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 11:36, 12 May 2022 (EDT)
 
::There is already a [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?43418 Hexagon series]. I don't have any objections to simplifying, but it would need to be something different than just Hexagon. I fixed the letter. Thank you for finding that. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:56, 12 May 2022 (EDT)
 
::: I see now. My mistake, I only checked magazines. I should have known there was a reason for the disambiguation. I'll leave it as is. Thanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:05, 12 May 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Science Fiction Science Fact - Asimov ==
 
 
 
You didn't verify, but the history for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?775230 this] indicates you have provided the cover artist as a supposition. Checking the two interior illustrations he is credited with shows them to be the two different covers. So you were right. I've updated the Notes to indicate such. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 16:43, 12 June 2022 (EDT)
 
:Thanks for finding that. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:29, 12 June 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?99871 The Restless Dead: Ten Original Stories of the Supermatural] ==
 
 
 
Hi! My best guess is that there's a typo in the last word. I don't know if you can still lay a hand on it, but if so: could you check it? Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 09:07, 17 June 2022 (EDT)
 
:I don't remember where that came from. I am comfortable that it was a typo given it has a "n" on the cover. I updated it. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:30, 17 June 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Gehm ==
 
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?292220; MLB added cover artist in 2019 to Blood Ruby but misread Gehm as Gehn; covers where signature is visible say Gehm, so it should be that name as the variant, not Gehn: https://hauntedhearts.wordpress.com/category/cover-art-charles-gehm/. --[[User:Username|Username]] 19:37, 21 June 2022 (EDT)
 
:Changed Gehn to Gehm. Thanks for pointing that out. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:13, 21 June 2022 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Devil's Dreamer ==
 
 
 
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2552496; I replaced Brennan's Candace cover, and noticed her other book's info was confused; I moved Ziel's credit over to the PV copy along with the note about where artist info came from, so non-PV copy is probably unneeded now. PV hasn't responded to anything in 2 years so they're probably not editing anymore. --[[User:Username|Username]] 13:46, 25 June 2022 (EDT)
 
:Your edit accepted and the dupe pub deleted. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:17, 25 June 2022 (EDT)
 

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Go Quest

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5858329; Minor fix to note's C$ price. --Username (talk) 13:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)

Approved. Thanks for catching the typo. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2024 (EST)

Riding the Nightmare

Hi, thanks for verifying my very first edit. However, I've obviously done something wrong. The stories on this collection (except 1) are all on the database already and they appear duplicated now instead of the stories already on the database being linked to the collection.

The story "Voices in the Night" first appeared on a 2018 anthology named "Uncertainties, volume III", edited by Lynda E. Rucker which is not on this database. I got the publishing date off Goodreads.

The story "The Dragon's Bride" is already on the database, but the version included here is a "revised and expanded version" to novella-length as is stated on the copyright page of the stories in the collection. I don't know if it should be linked to the story here or create a separate listing with a (expanded) credit as I submitted.

Thanks a lot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Delage82 (talkcontribs) .

When you type in the content records of a publication, it will create new title records for each of the contents. When the contents already exist in the database, it is better to use the Import options and import the existing records. When there are duplicates, you can go to the publication record and click the "Check for Duplicate Titles". This will give you a listing of items that match in title, author, and type and allow you to merge them. I have done that for this publication.
When we have revised / edited works, how we handle them depends on how different the works are. If the changes are minor, we would have one record and add a title note stating that there are revisions for certain versions. When the changes are more extensive, we leave them as separate records and add title notes. I have done that here. We would only include the "(expanded)" if that is how it appeared on the title page which doesn't sound like it.
Let me know if you have any questions on the above. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)

Girl in a Swing Cover Artists

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1503211; I discussed covers on RTrace page recently and I don't think UK HC should be by Murray but instead by Reginald George Haggar. --Username (talk) 19:32, 5 February 2024 (EST)

Updates made. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:42, 5 February 2024 (EST)

Aesop's Fables

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?185624

hiya mate sorry to hassle you i'm doing the contents of a version of aesops fables that I own that uses the 1912 vernon jones translations. Ive been varianting each fable to the parents that were enetred by RTrace with the perry index number as the series number and with ancient greek as the language but then i clocked that there was a few others apart from mine that werent linked to the series. they're the ones with a second author that youve done some editing on and i thought hang on i better stop and check to see why those ones aren't part of the series before i do any more of mine. cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 16:34, 31 March 2024 (EDT)

If they have two authors, they would be retellings or adaptations and not direct translations of Aesop's originals. You can add them to a series if you want, but I would suggest a subseries (perhaps something like "Aesop's Fables Adaptations"). They would not be varianted to the original works as they are not the same as the originals (i.e. not pure translations). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:33, 31 March 2024 (EDT)
i'll leave them alone I just wanted to make sure the ones i was doing are valid. cheers mate - Gaz Faustus (talk) 20:05, 31 March 2024 (EDT)

Changes to "Baen Fantasy" and "Baen Science Fiction Books"

A quick note to let you know that publisher records "Baen Fantasy" and "Baen Science Fiction Books" are in the process of being converted to publication series under "Baen Books" as per the outcome of this Rules and Standards discussion. This will affect one or more of your primary-verified publications. The only affected fields will be "Publisher" and "Publication Series". Ahasuerus (talk) 19:33, 4 April 2024 (EDT)

Planetstuck

● To answer your question on my message page, yes, it is clearly "Planetstuck". One word, on both the contents page, and on the title page. MLB (talk) 22:14, 4 April 2024 (EDT)

He May Wear My Silence

You misunderstood my question. I did not ask why you listed that imprint, I asked why the ISFDB cannot list publisher imprints on the same page as its publisher, thereby providing a complete and cohesive record of the publisher's work all in one place. Moonshine (talk) 13:09, 9 April 2024 (EDT)Moonshine

The ISFDB does not currently provide a method to create a hierarchal grouping of a publisher and its imprints (maybe someday it will). At the moment, if someone searches for Starship Sloane Publishing, they will find both the publisher and imprint listing. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:00, 9 April 2024 (EDT)