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The Winds of Change - identical editions?

I've verified this book (0nly the 8th on the system?) and added a scanned cover image from my own copy, but I see that it appears to be identical to your PV1'd this book. Does that mean that one of them could be deleted? If your copy has the incorrect 9th digit in the ISBN on the copyright page, would that confirm that they're identical? Thanks, Astrodan 09:13, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

They're not identical (and not to be deleted) because, as I indicated in the notes, my copy is the 2nd printing ("reprinted 1984" on copyright page). Please note that it's not wise to post on an archive page like the one you used because the user ed the is not warned in case of new posts (which is not the case with the regular user talk page).Hauck 15:08, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
That's what I wasn't sure about; whether "Published by Panther Books 1984. First published in Great Britain by Granada Publishing 1983" in my book meant the same as "Second 1984 Panther printing as per copyright page" in your book, as they both refer to two printings. A lot of publisher statements use slippery language and can have two meanings, depending on how you read them, e.g. the second sentence in my book could be taken to mean either "the first time anyone published the book in GB", or "the first time Granada Publishing published the book in GB".
Regarding the archive page; my mistake, sorry. I thought your page under the box notice looked empty, so I looked for the most recent posts. I'll post on your regular user talk page in future. Astrodan 16:06, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
The "First published in Great Britain by Granada Publishing 1983" likely refers to a Granada hc/tp not (yet) present in the ISFDB, "Published by Panther Books 1984" refers to the 1st pb printing (in this case yours). The mechanics appears more clearly here. I'll spare you the problems with apparent publisher changes here.Hauck 16:31, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Disentangling publishers and edition/printing numbers is an enjoyable part of the process, and if I've the slightest doubt about anything I'll post a question. I foresee a lot of questions ^_^ . Thanks for the help, Astrodan 00:32, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Chefs-d'œuvre de la science-fiction

I suppose there is a typo regarding the name of the translator (Frank Straschitz) of this pub ? Linguist 13:12, 26 September 2015 (UTC).

You are correctly supposing. Hauck 13:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

The Venging - Content page nos mismatch

Hi, if it wasn't yourself who added the unsigned input, I raised a discussion on Dirk P Broer's User talk yesterday about a mismatch in Content page numbers between his PV1'd The Venging, and my copy of an otherwise identical book. I included a small table showing the page nos in both books.

Of the four pub records in the Title record #439631 showing Content, one is the hc, one is yours, one is Dirk's and the fourth one is PV1'd by Pips55, an inactive user. It might help unravel the discussion if you could confirm your copy's Content details, thanks, Astrodan 15:03, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Falling Free - pub notes

Added a couple of pub notes to your PV1'd Falling Free Astrodan 15:16, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Cover art credit for Black Easter

Can you confirm the cover art credit for this publication? The same image appears on one of the cards in this set, and is credited to Peter Lord. It's so different from either of the artist's style that I can not tell which credit may be correct. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 06:29, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

"Cover design by David Pelham" is stated on bc. It shows some similarities (esp colors) with other Pelham covers. I'm open to any idea. Hauck 14:24, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
I'd more likely trust the original credit than one 40+ years later. Let me do some more research to see if I can uncover anything. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 17:59, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
This cover is very much in the style of another Penguin cover credited to Pelham. I'm going to change the credit for the postcard reprint and note the error. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 18:05, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Gould posted on Twitter that the 2 AM magazine entry was inaccurate

Regarding my submission today to try to edit the cover attribution of 2 AM Magazine to Steven Gould: Gould posted on Twitter that the entry was inaccurate, asking for it to be changed. Also, Gould is not an artist. I see that http://www.2ampublications.com/6.html says Cover by Steven Gould. Perhaps that's a different person? Netmouse 17:13, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

If Steven Gould wants to correct his bibliography, it's better to contact us directly (on the moderator noticeboard for example) instead of using a third party via twitter. Note that there is also a INTERIORART item (in Amazing) attributed to him perhaps wrongly. Hauck 17:19, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
So he should go to http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Moderator_noticeboard and... hit New / + and add a new item? Or hit talk on one of the moderators listed? Please help me understand how to instruct him - I think what you do once you land on that page is non-obvious. Thanks! Netmouse 17:28, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Exactly. To save his/your/our time, I've made the necessary modifications and created a new artist (instead of changed it to "unknown" a term that has a precise meaning for the ISFDB) here. Perhaps can you ask him if this piece of interior art is also misattributed. Hauck 17:36, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Changed authorship. Hauck 18:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Alain Puzzuoli or Pozzuoli

Please confirm the author credit for this record when you get a chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:19, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Corrected.Hauck 19:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Cities in Flight

Ref. the rejected 'Add Pub' submission for my copy of Cities in Flight, on 2015-09-28, I contacted Wjmvanruth, the PV1 of this copy, as requested. He confirmed that his copy had the price £2.75, as opposed to the £2.95 on mine. He also stated that the copyright page in his copy had only the line "Arrow edition 1981", and not the additional line "Reprinted 1985" which mine has. Neither of our copies has a number line.

Is that now sufficient to consider them as two different publications? Astrodan 20:40, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Please resubmit with a maximum of data in the notes. Arrow likely f... up. Hauck 05:36, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

The Sands of Mars - pub notes

I've added pub notes to your PV1'd this book, on cover art credit and additional pricing. Astrodan 09:40, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

2010: Odyssey Two

In absence of PV1, I've added a pub note to your PV'd this book. Astrodan 10:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The Lion of Comarre and Against the Fall of Night - Pub date?

I want to verify my copy of this book, which is identical to your PV1'd copy, with the exception of the price; £1.95 on mine, and £1.50 on yours. My book has the same publishing statement "This edition published 1982", and same number line as yours. In your pub notes however, you say '... but price is not coherent with verified 1982 edition (£1.50), so probable later printing.'

I take this to mean that the price on your book is not £1.50, so should the price in your Pub Metadata read £1.95 instead of £1.50? Astrodan 11:55, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Exactly. Corrected. Hauck 12:44, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Twistor -Content

Added "Afterword - The Physics of Twistor" to your PV1'd Twistor. Astrodan 09:13, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Ancient, My Enemy pub notes

I've added pub notes on artist credit and pricing to your PV2'd Ancient, My Enemy. Astrodan 14:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Glory Lane pub notes.

I've added pub notes to your PV2'd Glory Lane on pub history, month of date, art credit and additional pricing. Astrodan 23:33, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

The Difference Engine - pub notes

I've added pub notes on month of publication, cover art credit and pricing to your PV2'd The Difference Engine. Notification in absence of PV1, Pips55. Astrodan 20:25, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Double Planet - pub notes

I've added pub notes on pub. date statement, month, cover art credit and pricing to your PV2'd Double Planet. Astrodan 07:00, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Alex Cane / Alex Kane

Can you confirm the credit for this essay? It was reprinted in the New York Review of SF as by "Alex J. Kane". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 20:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

My mistake. Corrected. Hauck 11:56, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Anathem Cover Art

Please see this discussion regarding the cover art credit for your primary verified pub. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Possible typos (or not) in Histoires comme si…

According to some sources (nooSFere, BDFI), there appear to be two differences in the titles of some stories contained in your verified :

  • “Les plus honorables emplois de la terre...” (with an ellipsis).
  • “Un gentleman” (and not “Le”).

Before I start creating variants, could you please check whether these are not typos ? TIA, Linguist 10:25, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

Both corrected. Hauck 13:33, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks ! Linguist 13:46, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

Rebel in Time - image upload

Would you mind having a look at your PV1 Rebel in Time? I tried to upload a new cover art image after doing an additional verification from my copy of the book, to replace what looked like a fuzzy low-resolution existing image, but it seemed to go astray. I think I actually uploaded three images, but can't see them now. Thanks, Astrodan 14:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you did upload three similar images, I've retained only the last one. Try to refresh your browser to see it. Hauck 14:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it was already there when I opened the pub record again. Thanks again, Astrodan 15:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Alvim Correa and Alvim-Correa

Can you check to see whether the credits for these artists should be merged or varianted? You have primary verified one of each credit. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 00:17, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Credit confirmed as entered (ASFAIC), varianted. Hauck 06:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Arnold Bocklim or Bocklin

Can you confirm the credit for this cover art? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 02:09, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed & varianted. Hauck 06:18, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Trillion Year Spree - photographs?

I've checked my copy of Trillion Year Spree against this pub record before doing an additional verification/edit, but I'm not sure about the way the photographs are shown, so am asking your opinion as PV2 in the absence of PV1 BLongley.

As you can see, the 16 pages of photos are included in the metadata 'Pages' count as '688+[16]', which to me means 16 unnumbered pages containing some Content, at the end of the numbered pages, not 16 pages of photos stuck in the middle of the book.

They are also described in a pub note, but are not listed in Content.

Would it not be more in keeping with Content rules to:

  • Return the 'Pages' count to '688' only.
  • Leave the pub note describing the photos.
  • Consider a disambiguated Content entry; "Photographs (Trillion Year Spree)", entry type: INTERIORART, uncredited, and not requiring any page number?

    • This would be less confusing, if nothing else.

    Lastly, if I remember the rules correctly, I need only consult you, and not PVs 3 and 4 as well? Thanks, Astrodan 22:05, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

    First, my basic philosophy is to limit the amount of changes on PVed records even if some points are debattable. It's a kind of "first arrived is right" rule. In Aldiss' book case, I suppose that the number of pages should be brought to 688 with the note describing the specifics left. I'm not keen on the addition of a new INTERIORART record, we're (IMHO) already too much overburdened by such minutiae.
    IIRC all the PV have the same "rank" (the digit is just a kind of chronological marker), so you'll have to consult all of them. Alas, it's the major problem encountered by latecomers to the ISFDB, the need to coordinate all changes. Hauck 07:07, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
    That's ok, I've no problem with consulting any or all PVs. I have a 'working pile' of books from my collection, each with a paper note attached showing what needs to be done. It works well for me, with never more than six or seven books in the pile. Your recommendations about the photos sound like good common sense, and I'll contact the other two PVs now. Thanks, Astrodan 09:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
    Just looking at your reply again; would you exercise the same caution about changing PV'd records, to adding or changing Pub notes, or are they generally regarded with less feelings of 'ownership'? Thanks, Astrodan 10:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
    IMHO, to add data is less problematic than changing it. The need to notify PVs is mainly here to insure that we're not either deleting or adding publications (for example, if you change the price of one of my verified pub, it may means that I've badly recorded it and the book that I thought was the Xth printing is in fact the X+1th). As most of the more active editors are obsessed bibliographists and/or collectors, all this feedback will accrue our own personal databases. You'll rapidly become aware of the quirk of the "main" verifiers (their needs regarding notifications are usually stated on top of their user's page). Hauck 12:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
    No problems with that; I'd probably feel the same about anything I'd created too. Astrodan 13:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Del Rey Book of Science Fiction and Fantasy

    I have changed my verification on this pub from Primary1 to Transient. You may wish to change your Primary2 to Primary1. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:09, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

    Thanks. Hauck 13:19, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


    The Runes of the Earth

    http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?2848532

    "Cancellation/Rejection Reason: Don’t know what you’re trying to do here."

    Not to sound sarcastic or anything, but I was including the information on the copyright page from the book. All of which had been completely left out by the original editor. As it is an English edition (as opposed to American) I wasn't sure which or how much of the information is relevant or desired. Now that I've explained myself how about if you explain "Don’t know what you’re trying to do here." means. Blargg 04:26, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

    It was the first time that saw someone taking the pain to copy the entire copyright page. I thought hat it was a kind of joke or a copy/paste mistake, whence my comment. Regarding its contents the only interesting (isfdb wise) data is the "second impression" part. The postal address of the publisher, the author's rights assertion, etc. are useless. Some of the data that you included, like two isbns including one not concerning the publication, can even be misleading. That's what I meant. Hauck 05:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
    Ok, fair enough. So, outside of the "second impression" is there anything else that I should include? Blargg 07:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
    IMHO, that's all the important information that can be gathered from this page (it's usually our main source for the determination of the printing rank). Hauck 12:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
    Ok, thanks! Blargg 16:24, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Priests of Psi - month of publication

    I'm not sure who I need to ask, but while checking my copy of your PV'd The Priests of PSI, I couldn't find the month of publication on Contento1 as stated in the Notes. That could well be my fault, but if it was you who entered that Note, might the month data be additional material from the Locus CD-ROM?

    I've also verified, the data is not in the CDs. I probably didn't add this part of the note (you'll find that I'm not a great fan of secondary bibliography). Just FYI, the same (may 81) date is given here.
    Ok, thanks for the info. Astrodan 16:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    On a more general note, is there any great advantage to buying the CD-ROM, when the online version is relatively easy to access? Thanks, Astrodan 13:14, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

    When I bought my set (more than 15 years ago) it was invaluable. Nowadays, it's markedly less useful. It can now more be seen as an act of support to the Locus team. Hauck 13:45, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
    Good point... Astrodan 16:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    Esclave des flammes by Robert Bloch

    Corrected the typo (not "Esclaves”) in our verified by merging. Thanks. Linguist 15:08, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

    "Vœux tragiques" by Bloch

    I merged the titles “Voeux tragiques” and “Vœux tragiques”. Consequently, I'll touch up the spelling of the title in your verified issue of Galaxie. Thanks. Linguist 15:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

    Liege-Killer -pub notes

    I've added pub notes on month of publication, cover art credit and pricing to your PV1'd Liege-Killer. Astrodan 00:34, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    "Astorita"

    When you get a chance, could you please review this discussion? TIA! Ahasuerus 01:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    "Delanda est" delendum est

    Hi. I suppose the "Delanda est" in your verified is a typo ? Linguist 10:34, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

    Yes, it is. 13:05, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    Anachronisms - pub notes.

    I've added pub notes on number line, Locus1 month info, cover artist and pricing to your PV1'd Anachronisms. Astrodan 20:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    Ash Ock - pub notes

    I've added pub notes on number line, Locus1 month info and artist credit to your PV1'd Ash Ock. Astrodan 20:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Last Gasp - 'Pages', 'Artist1' and pub notes.

    I've amended the 'Pages' count from 563 to 568, (the last numbered page) and added Artist1 identity, in the Metadata of your PV2'd The Last Gasp. Also added "Afterword (The Last Gasp)" to Content, and added pub notes on number line, artist ID and "Afterword". Astrodan 22:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Death of the Dragon - image upload problem

    As you happened to be the moderator of the PubUpdate of my book The Death of the Dragon earlier this morning, would you mind looking at the image upload log? I ran into problems when I tried to upload a scan of my book's cover to replace the existing 'shot-from-a-distance' image attached to the pub record. The system was refusing to accept my image (correctly sized at 597 on the longer side), and before I managed to get it to do so, there were four extra uploads in the log. I did try the 'refresh' tab as suggested in a previous similar case, but it had no effect. I'm sorry for giving you extra deleting work, but if you could pinpoint exactly where I and/or the system am/are going wrong, I'd be grateful. Thanks, Astrodan 10:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

    Or should I have posted this request on the Help desk or Moderator Noticeboard? Astrodan 10:39, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
    I remember accepting the submission with an image that looked correct to me. Don't know what happened (the first three images were over 600 pixels large, perhaps the cause but I'm not sure). It seems OK now. I'm going to delete the four extra images. Hauck 14:25, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

    Emprise - pub notes

    I've added pub notes on artist signature and pricing to your PV2'd Emprise. Astrodan 11:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

    Empery - pub note

    I've added a pub note on artist's partial signature to your PV1'd Empery. Astrodan 11:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

    Fire Lance - pub note

    Added a pub note on Locus1 month info to your PV'd Fire Lance. Astrodan 08:00, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

    Ancient Shores - pub note

    During add. verification of your PV1'd Ancient Shores, I added a pub note on pricing. Astrodan 10:28, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

    Deepsix - pub note.

    Addit. verification of your PV1'd Deepsix, and pub note added on cover art credit. Astrodan 10:54, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

    Dragonflight - rejected pub edit

    Regarding my rejected edit for Dragonflight here, part of the reason for doing it was my reading of posting no. 67 from Bluesman on the Community Portal, here. Has there been an overall decision regarding his objections to 'standardisation'?

    This would especially affect UK publishers with the way some of them have chopped and changed names over the years (Panther/Grafton/Granada etc?) Astrodan 12:18, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

    IMHO the consensus is presently on "Corgi" (see here, to reach another consensus on "Corgi Books" here, with fewer books may require a new discussion. Hauck 12:47, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
    The only reason there are more editions under 'Corgi' is that someone merged ALL the records under that one name. There were far more under 'Corgi Books' before that unilateral change. I'm not sure how any 'consensus' is valid that totally ignores what's actually on the title page. --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:33, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
    It would be just as easy to change it back to "Corgi Books", a change that most of us, including me, would agree should be made. Mhhutchins|talk 00:38, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
    I suspect we have a few editors who rely too much on WorldCat's notoriously short variations of publishers names. I agree that standardizing on "Corgi Books" would be an improvement. Chavey 04:34, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
    "Standardizing" on one name is exactly what SHOULDN'T be done. Need to get your mind-set out of that particular 'ditch'. 'Cause that's exactly what bibliography isn't. --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:17, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
    I agree with Bill that with standardization we lost a lot of bibliographical quality. I remember to have been very disagreably surprised when I was reprimanded for entering "Kurt Vonnegut Jr" (as on the book itself) instead of the regular and ISFDB idiosyncrastic "Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.". Perhaps that, in the case of the Publisher field, there is way by using a kind of pseudonomystic relation along the lines of "Publisher (short form)" = "Ace", "Publisher (on book)" = "Ace Books, Inc.". Hauck 07:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
    I like that idea. With a lot of unverified books, we're jjust not going to be sure what's on the book. Neither WorldCat, nor Amazon, nor most of the early bibliographers cared much about that level of detail, so if we're getting our info from them, we have little recourse other than the shortened form they (usually) give, or a good guess based on that. And having two fields like that would make it possible to both have the detailed publisher info, but also to have a "publisher page" that really links to all books by that publisher. Chavey 21:52, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
    I never use Worldcat and my reject was only in the grounds of consistency : there is, at this precise time, for reasons not of my doing, more 'Corgi' than 'Corgi Books'. Left to my own devices, I personally tend to favor the maximum simplicity and clarity, meaning that I'm in favor of dropping all the "clutter" in publishers' names (like "Books", "Publisher", "Press", "Publishing", "Group", "Presses", "Editions", "Editeur", "SARL", "Inc,", "Ltd", "AG", Gmbh", "Verlag" etc.). A layperson will likely say "I've bought a Corgi book" but not "I've bought a Corgi Books book". Once we started on the standardization way, we're fated to have such discussions. If I extract ten books from my shelves and look at their title page, I've got "Ace Books, Inc." shortened to "Ace Books", "ArrowBooks" (in one word) transformed into "Arrow Books", "Pan Books London and Sydney" becoming just "Pan Books", "Del Rey: Ballantine Books ; New York" being transcribed as "Del Rey / Ballantine", "Spectra Tm: <rooster image> : Bantam Books <list of towns>" made into "Bantam Spectra", "Coronet Books" abbreviated to "Coronet", "Crest Book (witout "S"): Fawcett publications, Inc., Greenwich Conn." modified into "Crest Books / Fawcett World Library" (note the added "S"). There is just the "Orbit" that stays the same. You'll notice that, in most of the cases the "Books" part has been deleted. Apparently Corgi should be made the exception. These few examples strictly at random may nourish endless hours of sterile debates. Good luck to you all. Hauck 09:42, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

    Ruby or Rudy

    Can you confirm the credit for this essay? The OCLC record credits "Rudy", and we have another record in the db credited to that name. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 19:34, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

    It's indeed Rudy. Hauck 20:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

    May 1976 Analog

    I've got two changes that I'd like to make to the May 1976 issue of Analog. The proposed changed may generate some discussion, and yours is the lowest numbered primary verification who is active (Ron Kihara mentioned that he is currently pursuing other interests and Swfritter hasn't posted since August). I'd therefore like to direct the other verifiers here. My proposals are:

    1. I'd like to variant the editorial to Ben Bova. Per the help pages, when we credit an item to "The Editor" we should make it a variant of the actual name when we have a reliable source indicating who the editor is. In this case, Miller/Contento, which I would consider reliable, credits the editorial to Bova.
    2. The serial of Minotaur in a Mushroom Maze is incorrectly credited to "Richard A. Carrigan" whereas the title page omits the middle initial. Looking at Carrigan's page, it looks like he is credited without the "A" in almost all cases. The only other titles using the form of the name are the third installment of the same serial in this issue, and this essay. I suspect the latter is also incorrectly credited. Since you have verified that issue as well, could you confirm whether this is the case? I have a copy of the issue containing the essay and that credit is correct (with the initial). Since it appears that the author only appeared with his middle initial once, I would suggest that we swap the parent and pseudonym making "Richard Carrigan" the canonical name.

    Let me know if you agree with these changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:40, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

    Also the August 1976 issue (for the Bova essay). Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:04, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
    You're right, please proceed. Hauck 10:07, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

    August 1962 Analog

    I'm adding an illustration that we missed for "The Toughest Opponent" in the August 1962 issue of Analog. It occurs on page 24. I'll also adjust the disambiguation of the subsequent illustrations for that title. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

    Gunn Story in August 1955 Astounding

    I'm changing the author credit of the James Gunn story, "Feeding Time" appearing in the August 1955 issue of Astounding to "James E. Gunn" as it appears on the title page. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

    Footfall - pub notes

    Hi, I've added pub notes on number line, cover art credit and additional pricing to your PV'd Footfall. Astrodan 18:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

    Dust: added Content andpub note

    I've added author's "Afterword: Reality Check" essay to Content in your PV1'd Dust, with a pub note describing the same. Astrodan 22:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

    Marrow - pub notes

    I've added pub notes on cover art credit and additional pricing to your PV1'd Marrow. Astrodan 08:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

    Long Voyage Back - pub note

    I've added a pub note on cover art credit to your PV1'd Long Voyage Back. Astrodan 08:28, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

    The War for Eternity - Pages, Content and pub note

    I added three maps in the unnumbered pages at the start of your PV1'd The War For Eternity to the Content section, and amended the 'Pages' count to accommodate their numbering. Also amended the pub note seeking month notification to show Locus1 month. Astrodan 21:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

    Berserker Base - pub notes

    I've added pub notes on Locus1 month data, cover art credit and pricing to your PV1'd Berserker Base. Astrodan 12:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Robots' Girl or The Robot's Girl

    Hi, Hervé! There's a submissiom in the pipeline for merging two Brenda Cooper story titles that would affect one of your verified publications (Analog). I haven't handled it because you are obviously better equipped in this case. Christian Stonecreek 18:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

    Done, sub rejected. Hauck 19:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

    2312

    Hi. Your note for 2312 says "unknown printing rank". You can get the printing rank from the back from the two-digit number which is printed below the price and next to the ISBN number (see Publisher:Heyne). If it reads "01" your copy has the same printing as my copy (I'd PV that record then). Jens Hitspacebar 13:06, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

    It's the case. Notes modified. Thanks for the tip. Hauck 13:35, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

    Highway of Eternity

    I've added pub notes on cover art credit and additional pricing to your PV2'd Highway of Eternity. Astrodan 21:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Empire of Fear - pub note.

    Added cover details to artist source pub note on your PV1'd The Empire of Fear. Astrodan 22:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

    Singularity Sky - date query

    Hi, I'm trying to verify Charles Stross's Singularity Sky with my copy, which states: 

                           First published in great Britain by Orbit 2004
                       This edition published by Orbit 2005

    on the copyright page, with no number line. Price on my book; £6.99

    Pub record #320573 refers to a 2005-02-00 Orbit edition, £6.99, with date info from Locus1. I can't find any reference to this novel on Locus1, so presume it's on one of the Locus discs?

    Pub record #418616 refers to the 2005-00-00 Orbit £6.99 edition which you PVd.

    ISBN, Pages and the covers are the same on both books, and mine.

    Just to complicate things a bit, OCLC has three separate listings for Orbit 2005 editions of Singularity Sky, all with the same ISBN, Pages and covers.

    Is the line "Reprinted 2005" on your copy a shortened version of the second line in my book (above), or additional to it?. Either way, which of the two pub records should I verify, or should I clone a new version? Thanks, Astrodan 23:30, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

    The February 2005 date comes indeed form Locus1 see the last line. On my copy there is the "Reprinted 2005" line in addition to all the rest. The three OCLC titles come from the fact that there was really three 2005 Orbit printings of this book, confirmed by the mentions "This edition published by Orbit 2005" & "Reprnted 2005 (twice)" (making three printings in 2005) on this 2006 printing. Your copy is in fact the first UK pb, aka this one. Hope this answers your questions. Hauck 14:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
    Yes, that explains things, thank you. I realise now why I couldn't find the Locus ref; I'd jumped straight into the large 1984-1999 section first, forgetting about the single-year sections on this occasion. Verifying with my copy now, Astrodan 15:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Amtrak Wars: Cloud Warrior - pub note

    Added a pub note on additional pricing to your PV2'd The Amtrak Wars: Cloud Warrior. Astrodan 10:27, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    Worldwar: In the Balance

    I've added pub notes on month, cover art credit and pricing to your PV1'd Worldwar: In the Balance. Astrodan 12:18, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    Worldwar: Tilting the Balance

    I've added pub notes on incorrect rear-cover ISBN, and additional pricing to your PV1'd Worldwar: Tilting the Balance. Astrodan 12:53, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Dark Side of the Moon - pub note

    I've added a pub note on additional pricing to your PV1'd The Dark Side of the Moon. Astrodan 13:45, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    Millennium - Pages, Content and pub notes

    I've amended the page count of, added a Content item to, and added pub notes on cover art credit and pricing to, your PV2'd Millennium. PV1 is showing as inactive; no other PVs. Thanks, Astrodan 14:41, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Book of Ptath - pub notes

    I've added pub notes on printing history and cover art credit to your PV1'd The Book of Ptath. Astrodan 15:32, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    The Undercover Aliens - pub notes

    I've added detail to the pub note on cover art credit, and added a new pub note on pricing, on your PV1'd The Undercover Aliens. Astrodan 22:08, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    The War Against the Rull - pub notes

    I've added pub notes on page count and pricing to your PV1'd The War Against the Rull. Astrodan 23:19, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

    All Judgement Fled - artist ID

    I've amended the pub note about the cover art of your PV1'd All Judgement Fled, to show John Harris as the artist. Astrodan 14:47, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

    Monsters and Medics - numbered pages

    Added a pub note on page numbering to your PV2'd Monsters and Medics. Astrodan 16:48, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

    Ambulance Ship - cover artist pub note

    Added a pub note on probable artist ID for your PV1'd Ambulance Ship. Astrodan 17:19, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

    January 1929 Amazing

    I added the Paul illustration on page 937 of the January 1929 issue of Amazing, which we had missed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:20, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

    Mobile holes

    Modified the place of the elipsis in the title of “72 holes... 36... 72” (to become 72 holes ...36 ...72), and therefore in your verified copy of Les contes noirs du golf. Hope it's all right with you… Linguist 16:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC).

    La geste du halaguen

    Expanded the notes for your verified, and added the uncredited essay at the end. Linguist 11:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

    La fin d'Illa

    Same thing for this one. Also added missing page numbers and Jacques Van Herp's essay at the end. Linguist 11:22, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

    Un Martien sur la Terre

    Added the printing month to your verified. Linguist 11:48, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

    Also changed "martien" to "Martien" in the title. Linguist 11:52, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

    Déjà demain

    Same thing for this other one; also mentioned Jean Latappy as a possible artist in the notes. Linguist 14:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC).

    Le rendez-vous aux 300.000"

    Slightly expanded the notes for your verified. Linguist 10:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC).

    The Engineer

    I added an initial in the name of Neal Asher of this publication The Engineer as on the titlepage, thank you. William 13:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

    In this case, all the stories should be unmerged, modifed in their authorship and then varianted. Do you want to do it, or do you prefer me to make the changes? Hauck 13:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

    Robert McAulay and Robert McAuley

    Can you confirm the two credits for interiorart on pages 8 and 27 in this publication? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 00:16, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

    McAulay in both cases. Hauck 16:09, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
    Could the cover art of this publication also be McAulay? Mhhutchins|talk 18:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
    It's by him (it comes from SFM) but the artist is credited as entered. I've made the modifications. Hauck 18:39, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

    September 1977 Analog

    I'm making a few changes to the September 1977 issue of Analog:

    • Adding volume and issue number to the notes.
    • Varianting the editorial to Bova (per Miller/Contento)
    • Adding missing illustrations
    • Changed the author of "Have You Been Converted?" to "Rachel Cosgrove" as she is credited on the title page.

    Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:09, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

    Mid-December 1993 Analog

    I've added the missing illustration on page 32 and the uncredited humorous piece on page 49 of the Mid-December 1993 issue of Analog. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

    The Best from Fantasy and Science Fiction: 20th Series

    The cover artist for this Ace publication is Joseph Lombardero, see ha.com. Horzel 09:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

    Les forçats de l'Antarctique

    The original German title of this pub is given in wrong writing. --Zapp 21:37, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

    The correct original title info can be found by following the chain of VTs. Hauck 09:10, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

    William Dobson / Mike Butterworth

    Re this submission : I know you are not a great fan of Alain Douilly and his bibliographic abilities, but I thought that if he took the trouble to distinguish the two Michael Butterworths and point one out, he might have had some reason to do so — despite the fact that he doesn't indicate his own sources. But if you think there is nothing behind it all, I'll just forget about it. Linguist 10:31, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

    Well, our estimed Douilly is a bit alone on this (only the french wikipedia and one mystery site seem to back him). Sorry, I'll reject your other subs. Hauck 11:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
    Never mind, better luck next time… ;o) Linguist 11:28, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

    "George Patton Slept Here"

    Could you please confirm that "George Patton Slept Here" in your verified Alternate Generals II is by Roland J. Green rather than by (the currently stated) Ronald J. Green? TIA! Ahasuerus 18:48, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

    Right, corrected. Hauck 19:28, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
    Thanks! Ahasuerus 19:51, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

    Worlds of Weird

    I expanded the notes to our mutually verified Worlds of Weird, adding catalog numbers for Bleiler and Reginald. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

    La Terre a peur

    Cover of this pub was reused for Interzone #192. Artist: Roy Virgo. --Zapp 15:55, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

    To be frank, I don't see the value of such textual additions (it's not the same for the varianting which is quite valuable). 1) The information can be obtained by clicking on the cover link and 2) if we start doing this (adding text citing other occurences of the artwork), the "note" field will rapidly overflow, (think of such much reused artwork). Please avoid such additions to my PVed publications, just variant the cover instead. Thanks. Hauck 17:12, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

    "The World of Nighmare Fantasies" by Bolkhovitinov and Zakhartchenko

    Could you and Biomassbob determine whether there's enough similarity between this piece and this one for the records to be varianted? I've left a message on his talk page. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:42, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

    It looks like a translation of an essay published in Literaturnaya Gazyeta (Literary Gazette) in march 1948. It reviews negatively some texts published in Astounding. The precise texts evoked are difficult to pinpoint because the titles have be retranslated (from english to russian then back to english), like Rebirth by R. F. Jones which is perhaps Renaissance. Some are more easy to find like this one. Hope this helps. Hauck 15:07, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

    Jacques / Michel Parsons

    Hello. Re La maison au bord du monde : do you confirm “Michel” Parsons as translator ? Thanks, Linguist 10:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

    No, corrected. Hauck 14:53, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

    Travel like an old-world king in a Eurovan !

    Hello again. I was wondering this time about "Le voyage du roi Eurovan" : would that be another typo, by any chance :o) ? Linguist 16:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC).

    Yes, it's sad "Eurovan" had a nice "Camionnette de l'année" ring to it. Hauck 16:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

    Taches / Tâches de rouille

    Corrected probable typo here. Thanks. Linguist 09:35, 22 November 2015 (UTC).

    The Mammoth Book of Time Travel SF

    With respect to your verified Robinson second printing: The Running Press second printing has "Printed in the EU 11/13" on the ISBN label. I interpreted this as the date (Nov 2013) and used it for that publication. Based on the copyright and title page, it looks like this is a joint printing bound with different information on the covers (publisher name, pricing, & ISBN). You may wish to check your publication for a similar statement that can be used to date your printing. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:27, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

    There's none except a laconic "Printed and bound by CPI Group". Hauck 15:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

    La saga d'Argyre

    Hello. Any idea what this series exactly corresponds to, and why the other two d'Argyre novels don't belong to it ? TIA, Linguist 13:49, 28 November 2015 (UTC).

    I've created this series as per Klein's postface. The D'Argyre series corresponds only to the 3 listed titles (see the J'ai Lu covers) where the fictive author is seemingly part of the family whose history is narrated. Note that Chriurgiens d'une planète was retitled (and revised) to become Le rêve des forêts (that's why I didn't give it a rank number). The other D'Argyre-authored (initialy) titles are by D'Argyre but not part of the fiction series. Hauck 16:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
    OK, thanks a lot. Linguist 16:46, 28 November 2015 (UTC).

    La loi du talion

    Added a note to La loi du talion. Thanks. Linguist 10:10, 30 November 2015 (UTC).

    Anthony Barl or Bari

    Hervé, can you confirm the interior art credits under Anthony Barl? We have many records credited to Anthony Bari in the same periodicals, and you are the only primary verifier of those records that have verified all of them. I'm thinking it may be a matter of the editors confusing the final capital "I" in the last name as a capital "L". Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 00:29, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

    Hello Michael, yes, it's the case, the "i" is sometimes quite microscopic and likely was confused with a "l". I've changed the whole lot. Hauck 13:20, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
    Just as I suspected. Thanks for the cleanup. Mhhutchins|talk 15:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

    Destination 3001 once more

    Karen Haber's "The Unfortunate Problem with Grandmother's Head" that was just added from Unidentified Funny Objects 4 (2015) is the first English translation of her story in Destination 3001. This is the last of the "English half" of Destination 3001 to have an English language publication. RogerSSS 04:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

    Varianting done. Hauck 12:33, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

    Night Walk

    Hi, the cover artist for this edition is Vicente Segrelles, see his site, look at image CF_226.jpg. Thanks. Horzel 20:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

    Thanks. Hauck 11:32, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

    La courte echelle

    Hi, Herve. I submitted a change to change publisher name of above company to try to normalize as I've seen it on the net but it didn't go through. Was there a better name? Here and here are listings of all 3 of the pubs that have this publisher but with 2 different names. Is this something we should normalize? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 22:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

    I've regularized to lot to "La Courte Echelle". Thanks. Hauck 11:36, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

    Alan Dean Foster's "Quofum"

    I added the Canadian price to the notes for Quofum. Doug 20:53, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

    Vacant PV1s

    Hervé, I’m shifting some books so I’m moving many PV1 verifications to ‘Transient’. If you want to take over a higher PV slot at Emprise, Winter Song and Star of Ill-Omen, you’re welcome. More to come, inevitably. PeteYoung 17:58, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

    Done, thanks. Hauck 18:11, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

    The Big Lifters

    Added the cover artist to [this], she is credited in the hardcover edition. --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:31, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

    Thanks. Hauck 14:02, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

    Modz and Mooz

    Can you determine if these two artists might be the same person? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 05:49, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

    Likely, the third letter in the signature could be a "D" or a "O". Regularized. Hauck 14:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

    Le dernier avatar de Tristan

    Hello. I'll add a note to your verified saying that “Le dernier avatar de Tristan” doesn't appear in the original Romanian version of Les dents de Chronos. Thanks. Linguist 11:34, 15 December 2015 (UTC).

    Interzone: The 4th Anthology

    Hervé, my copy of Interzone: The 4th Anthology has the story 'The Quagma Datum' as by "S. M. Baxter", not Stephen M. Baxter. The correct title record is already in the database here. Thanks. PeteYoung 14:25, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

    Corrected. Hauck 14:51, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

    If, March 1963

    A new user (Rodd) left the following comment on the wiki publication page for your verified If, March 1963:

    Mar 1963 If cover price is $0.40 not $0.35 as shown. I have two copies of this issue. Thank you.

    Would you please take a look at the comment and double check the entry? I've left a message for the user giving him advice on how to notify verifiers and have deleted the publication page. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:25, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

    He's right. Corrected.Hauck 06:25, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

    Hal(l)ali cosmique

    Hello. Just to make sure : is this title really حلال‎ (ḥalāl), or is it a typo ? Thanks. Linguist 11:26, 18 December 2015 (UTC).

    Typo.Hauck 12:51, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

    Northern Suns

    The Contents listing for Northern Suns (HC edition), which I notice you verified, lists the intro as Introduction: Another Music from Another Kitchen, however the TP edition I'm holding right now has it titled as Introduction: Another Music from A Different Kitchen. Is it possible you made a typo? Thanks. gzuckier 10:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

    You're right, corrected. Hauck 15:05, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
    10-qgzuckier 05:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

    Boulevard des étoiles (1998)

    Hello, Herve. While updating the publess list, I noticed that two stories in your pv'd Boulevard des étoiles 1998 look like they appeared earlier and should have their dates changed. "Yadjine et la mort" appeared here in 1985 and "Les amis de monsieur Soon" appeared here in 1983. Is this something you want to change? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 20:39, 21 December 2015 (UTC) I just noticed I'll be adding these stories to the 1991 Boulevard des étoiles collection and I can merge with existing content titles and change dates. Doug / Vornoff 20:49, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

    I've changed the dates, note that Les amis de monsieur Soon appeared even earlier in Solaris #50. Hauck 21:11, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
    Thanks, Herve. No, I didn't see that Les amis de monsieur Soon had an earlier date but I see that now in Wikipedia. I didn't find any issues of Solaris on ISFDB, though. I merged the titles. Doug / Vornoff 21:50, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
    I've got of few issues of the magazine (fanzine?) but didn't enter them.Hauck 10:25, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

    Eric Frank Russell's Deep Space

    Added Australian and New Zealand cover prices to our verified Deep Space. PeteYoung 08:19, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

    Martin Perrot / Perrott

    Can you confirm the credit for this work? There are other works published in Interzone credited to Martin Perrott. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 19:59, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

    Confirmed as entered. Hauck 20:42, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

    Serpentine

    Hello, and all my best wishes for another New Year (if we ever get there…). Concerning this book, which you have verified two pubs of, labeled “NOVEL" : my own Folio SF copy of it is undoubtedly a collection of ten unrelated stories (one of which appears as such under "Shortfiction"). Before I PV it, shall I update the title to COLLECTION, or is there a particular reason not to ? TIA, Linguist 22:04, 27 December 2015 (UTC).

    You're right, I've (normally) corrected the lot. Hauck 07:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
    Thanks. I've added some notes to the record (Grand Prix de l'Imaginaire 2005). Linguist 09:45, 28 December 2015 (UTC). Which I moved to title page. Linguist 09:46, 28 December 2015 (UTC).
    IMHO the prize was for the short story here but even the GPI site is unclear (but that's not very surprising). Hauck 10:50, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
    OK, thanks. BTW, I think this link is not the one you meant to use (unless I fail to see the point it leads to). Linguist 11:12, 28 December 2015 (UTC).
    Yes, it the other page that was opened at the time, correct page is here with award. Hauck 11:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

    Pohl's Star Science Fiction

    I'm going to expand the notes to several volumes of Pohl's Star Science Fiction series, by adding the catalog numbers for Reginald and Bleiler's Guide to Supernatural Fiction. I intend to update 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 17:42, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

    Berserker Lies

    Managed to enlarge the signature on [this] enough to make out A. Gutierrez as you had surmised. Adjusted the note accordingly. --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:11, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

    Nice. Hauck 18:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

    "Gilles au bûher"

    Typo ? Linguist 10:36, 29 December 2015 (UTC).

    Yes, thanks for spotting it. Hauck 13:42, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

    Identity of M. M. Hall

    Hi, Hervé! I do suspect that this author could be identical to Melissa Mia Hall. Is there any hint towards that in this anthology (she has a story on p. 247)? Christian Stonecreek 16:18, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

    Yes, data given matches with her bibliography. I'll variant the lot. Hauck 17:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
    Thanks, Hervé! And all the best for the rest of the year! Christian Stonecreek 06:24, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

    I added the Canadian price to your verified

    I added the Canadian price to your verified [1].Don Erikson 06:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

    Possible Typos

    Would you mind double checking these possible typos?

    Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:16, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

    Done. Hauck 17:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

    Uncredited Covers

    I saw this comment while processing another submission by that user. That is not our standard for covers. The standard is to not enter an artist credit if the there is no credit. The only time 'uncredited' is used is if a variant relationship needs to be created between two uncredited covers (and even that has been debated). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:04, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

    The cover was first entered as by "unknown" which is clearly not our standard. For the "uncredited" part, the discussion petered out as usual. Now, with the change of status of the coverart field which is now like any component of the publication, I don't see why COVER ART should be treated differently than ESSAY, INTERIORART, INTERVIEW, REVIEW and the rest, i.e. entered as "uncredited" when necessary. The only exception for me is when there no is COVERART to speak of like here, in other cases, it should be "uncredited" (with the added bonus of authorizing merges). Hauck 15:21, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
    If that is your view, you should start a discussion at Rules and standards discussions. That is not, nor has it been, our standard. You should not be making a unilateral change and telling new users that is our standard. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
    What a ridiculous idea, a discussion? Better roast in hell. Hauck 17:19, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

    Mark Lowden and Mark Lowdon

    Could these possibly be the same artist? Both have a single publication in issues of SF Monthly. BTW, any untitled illustration should be given the title of the work it illustrates. In this case, the title of the magazine itself. Per ISFDB standards here (subsection Artwork): "Interior art should have the same title as the fiction or essay it is associated with. If it is independent of other content, and has no apparent title or caption, give it the title of the publication in which it appears, disambiguating if necessary." Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 05:44, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

    Enterd as credited, pseudomym created based on clear similarity of style. Hauck 10:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

    Preface (Anthony Boucher: A Biobibliography)

    Preface (Anthony Boucher: A Biobibliography) is not in your verified Anthony Boucher: A Biobibliography. Was it intentionally removed and not deleted? Or was it unintentionally removed and should be restored? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:05, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

    Dunno what happened. There's a preface (a bit over one page long), unsigned and of no importance whatsoever.Hauck 17:12, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

    Siudmak cover for Der hohle Mann

    Hi, Hervé! You sure are a lot faster than me in determining the original appearance for the cover of this anthology, provided you have seen it on an edition. Any idea (if not I'll take on a journey of my own)? Christian Stonecreek 19:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

    Done. ;-). Hauck 21:33, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
    Thanks, Hervé! Christian Stonecreek 05:22, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

    Rogue Sword

    I added notes to Rogue Sword with more detail about the source for the publication date, the cover art credit, and the uncredited interior artwork. --Marc Kupper|talk 04:42, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

    Michael Brickman and Brickmann

    Could these be the same person? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 19:15, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

    Likely, pseudonym made on stylistic grounds. Hauck 13:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

    Omnibus titles

    Let me separate this from the Percy Jackson cover art discussion on my own talk page, although I stumbled on this point during investigation of the in-print cover art for that series.

    Is there a good reason to include "Hardcover Boxed Set" in name of an OMNIBUS Title as we do for T1110029? (Or "Books 1-5" in the name of its Publication field, as do for P500881.) For the linked Title, however, I wonder whether some such distinction is necessary because this omnibus edition covers books 1-5 and we have simply "Percy Jackson and the Olympians" as the name of another OMNIBUS Title T1724436. As I now understand it there may be two questions.

    Do we need two Title records (two OMNIBUS titles) for omnibus editions from one series that differ greatly in scope? --not merely a new introduction, index, etc, but this difference between three novels and five --which suggests, two records where two values seem appropriate in the Storylen field

    If two Title records, do we need different entries in their Title fields? --or is it adequate to differ only in Storylen (and perhaps Year, as for the two Title records linked above)

    By the way, there is now a 2014 "Paperback Boxed Set" with 5 volumes at Amazon, although it is not yet in ISFDB (nor have we any earlier paperback set of 5). So "Hardcover" in our Title for the 5-volume omnibus is a fitting description of our 5-volume publications only because we are not up to date.

    --Pwendt|talk 20:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

    Diverse answers
    As the record came directly from amazon, the title used is theirs. It will perhaps be changed when someone will PV the set and decide on a title (e.g. on what really appears on the package).
    Technically, there's no obligation to have a different title for different work, an author may write two different texts with the same name (even if it's ultra rare), they will have two records in the db.
    So yes, we need two title records for omnibus editions from one series that differ greatly in scope.
    For the paperback set, you're right. It should be added to the 5-book omnibus and the title record be changed.
    Hauck 15:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
    [1] I submitted some of the pertinent revisions. As I understand it, we retain two COVERART Titles for John Rocco, both 2014 in this instance, because the two OMNIBUS are different Titles, although they incorporate in their 3 and 5 constituent book cover designs the same illustration. (The front covers of the two boxes/slipcovers actually show the same component cover art, that for book 3; --explained in a Note that I submitted for one of the two Titles T885721.)
    [2] Here there is an issue that troubles me more generally. For instance, concerning the 1949 illustration of Farmer Giles of Ham by Pauline Baynes (writer JRRTolkien), do we need multiple INTERIORART Titles for SHORTFICTION, CHAPBOOK, OMNIBUS, COLLECTION, and perhaps other editions/publications/printings of the Farmer Giles shortfiction? Or may we fashion our records for the various publications that include Farmer Giles shortfiction so that only Tolkien, the writer, is burdened with numerous Farmer Giles titles in his bibliography; while Baynes, the illustrator, has only one Farmer Giles INTERIORART Title in her bibliography? --or one for credit as "Pauline Baynes" and one as "Pauline Diana Baynes".
    This issue includes attribution to Baynes such titles as INTERIORART "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil" as a collection and "Smith of Wootton Major and Farmer Giles of Ham" as a collection. The latter P263968 T885721 is as an easier example, as a simple collection of two novellas: do we need such records if there is no new illustration (1969) specific to the collection?
    --Pwendt|talk 20:42, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
    A better example of the latter [2]: I am responsible for INTERIORART Title Mary Poppins: 80th Anniversary Collection T1942006 (illustrations inside omnibus edition, 2nd printing 2014 or 2015) but I wonder now whether I should have entered as Contents the four INTERIORART for the four constituent novels (1934, etc). --Pwendt|talk 20:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
    ASFAIC, there is a recent excess of concern on the INTERIORART material (we're a FICTION database). Technically each and every illustration may be entered and traced into each publication. That's just overkill for me. One INTERIORART record is enough to indicate that (and by who) a novel is illustrated. It's your call. Hauck 21:13, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

    Time Thieves

    Found a signature on the artwork for [this] left of the right elbow of the ray-gun toting damsel. --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:20, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

    You're always the best in magnifying glass wielding! Hauck 18:25, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

    Decade: The 1940s

    The cover artist for this cover is Russell Mills, see http://russellmills.com/russell_mills/book-covers/ (somewhere near the bottom of the page). Thanks. Horzel 16:26, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

    Christopher Evans's 'Vendavo' stories

    I've created a short fiction series for the stories that appear in Christopher Evans's Chimeras. I've named it 'Vendavo', based on the note that appears in Zenith relating to the third story 'The Bridge'. If you think 'Chimeras' or any other series title would be better, please go ahead and change it! Thanks. PeteYoung 03:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

    Devolution Z, January 2016

    You accepted, then deleted the Fixer submission adding this issue of the periodical, but the title record remains in the database. We have previous issues of it, so I'm not certain why it was deleted. (This was on a clean-up report which finds publess titles.) Mhhutchins|talk 08:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

    Following diverse mistakes from me, I was waiting to see on which report it would appear. Hauck 11:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

    Image of the Beast

    You write: "Hello, I've just approved your submission for this pub [[2]] but the cover is not the correct one. You will also have to set the dates of the contents to 1974-10. Note that the cover is by Moebius."
    I corrected the cover as soon as the publication was approved of. I had cloned the title. But this cover is NOT by Moebius, the artist is unknown. Moebius did the cover for Gare à la bête (Blown), but not this one!

    In fact the cover is indeed by Moebius, see here for example or there or in english or in Le Rayon SF (a french reference book).

    Because of the cloning the contents with the 'Postface' by Theodore Sturgeon came along. This book has no postface, nothing by Sturgeon, but I could not delete this item. Can you help? Zlan52 Zlan52 15:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

    You can delete the postafce via the "Remove Titles From This Pub" link at publication level, it will let you choose which item to delete. Hauck 16:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

    The cover is definitely not by Moebius. That a once made mistake gets so many copies online does not make it a Moebius illustration. The mistake is made because it looks a bit like the cover art of Gare à la bête from Champ Libre. The information that the art on Comme un bête is not a Moebius illustration did I get from Jean-Marc Lofficier, the expert (an American agent) on Moebius! Hope this settles it. Zlan52 00:07, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

    Astounding, August 1954

    I added the art in the editorial to your verified Astounding, August 1954. Bob 16:29, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

    Sword of the Demon

    The cover art of this novel is by John Blanche, see his site. Horzel 23:03, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

    Walt Miller in Astounding

    Can you confirm the credit for the artwork for "Belief" in this issue and "Earthman Come Home" in this issue? Almost every credit for this artist's work is to just Miller. An editor recently made "Miller" into a pseudonym for "Walt Miller" (here), but as yet hasn't varianted any titles. I'm thinking that the overwhelming majority of credits would indicate a reversal of the canonical/pseudonym relationship. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins|talk 19:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

    Yes, it's "Walt Miller" as entered. Hauck 20:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
    Thanks for the confirmation. I'll have to think about where to go from here about handling the unvarianted records. One last thing, which may help in the decision, can you check other issues of Astounding in your collection for records which are credited to "Miller" in the database, but whose credits are based solely on the signature, and not a printed credit? If so, then they can be changed to "Walt Miller" if we determine that should be the canonical form of the name. Mhhutchins|talk 21:49, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
    The credit is confirmed to "Miller" in all the 1950-1951 issues. The signature also reads "Miller". Even if there are more "Miller" than "Walt Miller" perhaps should the latter be the canonical name (just to disambiguate from all other Millers). Hauck 13:39, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
    You're right. I was just trying to save some time. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

    The Image of the Beast

    Why did you not send me a message that you not accepted my suggestions for alternate titles? That I have do do that the other way around? Zlan52 23:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

    It seems to me that you got the info. Hauck 08:04, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
    Perhaps you should not handle submissions by new editors if you don't want to leave messages on their talkpage. This is the attitude that scares people away from us. --Willem 20:33, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
    Please avoid making such assumptions and accusations, just see there. Hauck 20:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
    So you post a note when you accept an edit, but not when you reject one? --Willem 21:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

    Decade: The 1950s

    And the artist of this cover is one Paul Bartlett, according to page 165 of this art book. Horzel 21:29, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

    Thanks, change made. Hauck 13:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

    Cover artist found

    Cover artist Henri Lievens found for this pub on this website. --Zapp 19:44, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

    Same for this pub. --Zapp 19:44, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
    You'll probably find all the Marabout titles in this series. AFAIC, this source is not authoritative enough to validate the data even if Lievens is very likely the cover artist, see for example the notes for this pub. Note this blog does not even pretend to be the official Lievens gallery. Hauck 20:13, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
    Sorry, I thought so. --Zapp 20:17, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
    No problem, as I said, Lievens is quite certainly the artist but the "sure" attribution of these covers is a problem that plagues the french SF bibliographic scene since many years (to the best of my knowledge, there exists no statement of authorship by Lievens). Hauck 20:28, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
    Maybe a little here. --Zapp 12:48, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
    Very nice find, the one with the girl is for this pub, I'll let you the honor to enter your find ;-). Hauck 13:01, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
    Thanks, There is another one. --Zapp 13:20, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
    And this one. --Zapp 13:30, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
    What's interesting is that the signature is clearly visible on the original painting and, from its placement, should be on the cover but is not. Hauck 14:06, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
    Guess it was signed later at the time of sale. --Zapp 20:21, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

    More Possible Typos

    Here are some more possible typos:

    Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:03, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

    Corrected. Hauck 10:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

    Dean Ellis

    was the artist of this pub. Found at Science Fiction and Fantasy Art Collectors' Site. --Zapp 20:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

    L'océan aux trilles

    Hello Hervé. I was just wondering, would the original title of this story be indicated in the Marabout anthology ? TIA for checking, when you get a chance. Linguist 21:23, 28 January 2016 (UTC).

    Alas there's strictly no bibliographical data in the book. Hauck 14:58, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
    Too bad… Thanks for checking ! Linguist 10:38, 30 January 2016 (UTC).

    Le sommeil du chien

    Added some notes to our verified. Thanks. Linguist 10:59, 30 January 2016 (UTC).

    Eyrimah

    Hello. I have here a French edition of this book, which is for me a novel, not a novella (roughly 44.000 wds). Should I modify the status of the unverified English pubs (which also means changing the “collection” that contains it into an omnibus), or leave it separate ? I would be all for the first solution, but there might be unseen complications… TIA, Linguist 14:24, 31 January 2016 (UTC).

    Some time ago there was a lenghty debate about changes of category due to translations (usually from SHORTFICTION to NOVEL when translated into french and the other way round when translated into english), IIRC it was about this author. As usual, nothing came of it. IMHO the original language length should prevail. In this case, as the english variants are unverified, you should proceed. Hauck 14:56, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
    OK, thanks ! Linguist 14:59, 31 January 2016 (UTC).

    The Interpreters / A Novacon Garland

    Hi Hervé, Dave Langford is going through his own lengthy biblio page (at last) and has a query about why The Interpreters / A Novacon Garland is considered a CHAPBOOK, when it has several works of fiction instead of a single work (plus the introduction). Thanks. PeteYoung 09:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

    Transformed into an ANTHOLOGY, even if it's technically a chapbook+ a collection. Hauck 10:56, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

    Newspaper reviews?

    I wondered what the policy on newspaper reviews was. I dug up this review of the Simon Necronomicon. Can I submit it as a review, or are reviews confined to magazines?--Auric 12:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

    In fact no, only fiction published in non-genre titles is allowed. Likewise a text about SF in a general magazine will not be allowed. Hauck 12:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

    Jacques Ancet and Jacques Anset

    Could these two be the same author? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 16:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

    Confirmed as entered. The Anset short story is also correctly copyrighted to "Anset". Both Ancet are short-shorts, Le bruit is (a little) longer. Possibly the same person but no paratextual evidence. Note that, as usual, noosfere conflates the two authors but this seems to be their standard procedure which alas is rarely based upon facts (more on proximity or simply laziness to record authors as they are). Sorry. Hauck 17:06, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

    Author mixup

    In submitting Scary Stories for Sleep-Overs, I misentered Ricardo Delgado as Richard Delgado. On the cover, he is credited as Ricardo, but on the copyright page, it says "Illustrations copyright by RGA Publishing Group Inc and Richard Delgado". Can Richard be entered as a pseudonym or such?--Auric 15:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

    In this case, the cover may take precedence over copyright page, I've changed the lot to Ricardo (which is the name we already have). Hauck 16:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
    Thanks.--Auric 02:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

    The Brick Moon / Another Brick in the Moon

    Hervé, your verified Interzone 256 contains a review by Duncan Lunan, entered as an essay, of Edward Everett Hale and Adam Roberts's publication The Brick Moon / Another Brick in the Moon. Letting you know we have the pub in the database here. Thanks. PeteYoung 11:42, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

    Corrected, thanks. Hauck 14:44, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

    Jean Pol Laselle and Jean-Pol Laselle

    Could you possibly determine which form of this name should be canonical and make the appropriate pseudonym and variants? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 17:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

    Done. Hauck 17:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
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