User talk:Faustus

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HTML tags

Hello,

When adding notes in html format, make sure that the ul/li tags are properly arranged: I just approved a few of your later submissions and they are all missing the leading ul tag. :) Annie (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2022 (EST)

To Annie

I'm sorry for all those mistakes. You're probably not used to dealing with someone as bewildered as myself. I didn't know I'd even been adding notes in hmtl format never mind jumbling up the togs whatever they are.

As I don't know my arse from my elbow I am going to knock the entries on the head before an irate mod boots me into touch.

Ps this is a lovely site and the mods and contributors do a very nice job.

All the best from Gaz Faustus (talk) 14:05, 23 December 2022 (EST)

You are doing very well actually - these are normal mistakes when you are not used to the formatting and the way things work around here. You don’t need to use HTML but when an existing note already has html, it may confuse people when adding an extra note. Think of ul tags as brackets - if you open one, it needs to get closed (and if a closing one is there, you need an opening one at the top). The “make me an entry in this tag” li does not need a closing partner. So when you make lists, the tags go ul li li li /ul. If you want to nest lists inside of lists (you had a few of these), they will go ul li li ul li li /ul li /ul for example (with as many li as lines you want). Hope that helps a bit. You also can click edit on a publication where you like the formatting of the notes and copy and change the note from in there. :) Annie (talk) 15:16, 23 December 2022 (EST)

To Annie

Cheers for the ncouragement. You have the patience of a saint. I think I've got an small inkling about some of the stuff I was doing wrong. Having a shufti at the way the experts do it sounds like a good idea. I will print off this page and staple it to the curtains so I can keep an eye on it.

All the best from Gaz Faustus (talk) 22:23, 29 December 2022 (EST)

Dr Faustus: The A- and B- Texts (1604, 1616)

Hello again,

A book of two stories make a collection and not a chapbook unless the second story a bonus short story, poem or short serial installment, but only if the publication's title page lists only the main title and the main title's author(s) (See the help page here. So this one is a collection - both are listed after all :) In addition, when you have a generic title such as introduction, foreword and so on, always add the name of the title it belongs to in brackets. That way when you open someone's page, you won't end up seeing 100 essays called Introduction. I fixed both things in this one - let me know if you have any questions. :) Annie (talk) 16:05, 22 December 2022 (EST)

Mission of Gravity

About your note here: Clone our record and create yours with your ISBN. I think that our record is a faulty mixed up record from Amazon but some more digging needs to be done just in case it is a different printing or something weird like that so just add your book and if you want, once yours is added, add a note in this one explaining the existence of the other record. Annie (talk) 16:10, 22 December 2022 (EST)

The Gunslinger

A few notes about this one:

  • We have an import function. Look at the left menu when you have a publication open.
  • When adding pages, keep in mind that all of them go in order. In this case you had IX|1 and XIX|2 but also 1 in the stories. The result was that the site orders IX|1 and 1 as duplicates (so either can end up first depending on the default order), then the other of them and then XIX|2. In such cases the easiest way is to use |0.1, |0.2 and so on - this will put them at the top of the list :)

Let me know if you have any questions! Annie (talk) 16:16, 22 December 2022 (EST)

The Fabulous Clipjoint

When you add a page number such as "1|2", people tend to get very confused. So instead, use decimals :) i becomes i|0.1 and then the 1 can stand on its own. See how I did it here. I also fixed the introduction (as mentioned above).

PS: About your note: No need to apologize - people learn things by doing them multiple times :) Annie (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2022 (EST)

Cover Image Uploads

When using the "Upload new cover scan" option from a publication page, the software will automatically add an licensing template pre-populated with the publication information. In this case, you do not need to select a license under the "Licensing" pull down on the upload page (as it creates adds a second, incomplete template that needs to be cleaned up). The "Licensing" pull down only needs to be used when using the upload option from the wiki directly. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:11, 15 January 2023 (EST)

Got it, cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 19:02, 24 January 2023 (EST)

Deletion of May's The Golden Torc

Hi Faustus

I'm holding your edit to delete Julian May's The Golden Torc. There are a couple of problems with this edit. The most important one is that you didn't check with the active primary verifier (i.e. me) before attempting to delete the publication. Any substantive edit made to a publication that has active primary verifiers should be discussed with the verifiers before the edit is submitted. The second issue with this submission is why you chose this record, of the two supposed duplicates to delete. This record was created by me on 2020-10-05 by cloning one of the other records. At that time, the other publication record did not specify a printing number. This can be seen examining the edit history. The notes at the time I created the first publication only included "Month from amazon.uk." I suspect this record was originally meant to indicate the 1st Pan printing. It includes the British Library number and we know that the first Pan printing was also 1982 from the note in the 4th printing. Mavmaramis verified the second record in 2015 but did not expand the notes at that time. They ultimately added notes to the second record indicating that it was for the 4th printing on 2022-04-18. So now we have two records indicating a 4th Pan printing and no records for printings 1-3. There's a couple of questions that need to be answered here. Do we know which printing number the July 1982 date from Amazon.uk (which now reports Jan 1, 1982 for this ISBN) refers to? If it refers to the 4th printing, how do we know this? The month is not listed in the book. Depending on that, we can decide who should move their verification to the other record. I'm going to have a discussion with Mavmaramis so we can figure out how to proceed with this. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:41, 24 January 2023 (EST)

To Ron - Cheers m8 I'll do that in future. All the best from Gaz

White Jenna

Hi Faustus -

I'm holding your submission to clone Yolen's White Jenna to create a record for the second printing. I have a couple of questions. Your notes include "First mass market edition August 1990. [This Publication Record]." but also include "Second printing by number line." You also have the date as "1990-08-00". I think you should probably remove "[This Publication Record]". While I'm certain that "First mass market edition August 1990" appears on the copyright page, and technically this would be a second printing of the first edition, I think that "[This Publication Record]" will confuse people. My other concern is how you arrive at the date. Is there a notice that the second printing was made August, 1990? If not, we probably can't determine the actual date and it should be entered as "0000-00-00". Please let me know. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:55, 25 January 2023 (EST)

Spot on there mate it should be unknown date for 2nd printing. Cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 19:33, 25 January 2023 (EST)

I've approved the edit. You noted that you were planning to add a cover scan. You can make the changes to the date and the note in the same edit. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 07:20, 26 January 2023 (EST)

To Ron

ok mate I'll have a bash at that next time. Faustus (talk) 13:43, 26 January 2023 (EST)

Star Trek Log Three

I approved this submission. Would you mind double-checking the ISBN? You submitted '0552100459' which is invalid. Might it be '0552100455', which is a valid Corgi ISBN? Also, are you planing on providing a primary verification since you own the book? John Scifibones 14:37, 30 January 2023 (EST)

yes mate the number on the spine its 0 552 10045 9. On the copyright page it says 0 5521 10045 9 ie 11 digits. Does primary verification mean sending in the pictures with the numbers on? Cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 15:19, 30 January 2023 (EST)
Ive just seen the number is on the cover as well. Faustus (talk) 15:29, 30 January 2023 (EST)
To verify, go to the publication. Select 'Verify This Pub' from the 'Editing Tools:' navigation bar. In the upper section of the 'Verify Publication' page, the 'Permanent verification' should have the radio button marked. Select 'verify'. Your name will now show on the publication page under Primary Verifications. John Scifibones 15:53, 30 January 2023 (EST)

got it, All the best from Gaz Faustus (talk) 19:08, 30 January 2023 (EST)

More Than Human

When you uploaded a new image to the previously linked Wiki page, it immediately replaced the prior image. Therefore this submission is not necessary and I rejected it. Let me know if you are satisfied with the result and I'll delete the old image to save space. John Scifibones 15:34, 2 February 2023 (EST)

Sorry mate didn't know that. Yeah go ahead with that. Cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 17:03, 2 February 2023 (EST)

The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower

Don't forget to verify The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower since the source of your edit is the book. Thanks, John Scifibones 17:02, 6 February 2023 (EST)

Done it mate. Should I be doing that for every edit that a mod has ok'd as they're all from my own books. Faustus (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2023 (EST)
You should always provide a verification when the source of your edit is the actual book. You can also verify a publication record that you haven't edited if it agrees with your copy. Read this. Notice how we use colons to indent posts to a thread. It makes the threads much easier to follow. Thanks, John Scifibones 18:03, 6 February 2023 (EST)
Got it mate every days a school day. cheers from Gaz Faustus (talk) 18:08, 6 February 2023 (EST)

Uploading images

Gaz, I approved your submission adding The Best of Saki. You have been uploading images and then including the links in your new publication submissions. Let me make a suggestion. Create the publication first. After approval, use the 'Upload new cover scan' on the newly created publication. This will automatically create the license tag with the publication information and fair use rationale. I have been adding the tags as I approve your submissions. See the tag information below the cover image?

Here is the related help. You have been using procedure 2 but only the first few steps. I'm asking you to use procedure 1. It will be easier for you and save time for the reviewer. Thanks, John Scifibones 21:01, 7 February 2023 (EST)

sorry mate I'll do that in future. Faustus (talk) 22:06, 7 February 2023 (EST)
No worries. Apologies for the bad link showing you the tag for 'The Best of Saki', it's fixed now. John Scifibones 22:12, 7 February 2023 (EST)

Best SF of the Year 15

Regarding this submission: I mistakenly hit approve on this one. The note has been moved from the pub note field to the title note field. This is because the note is applicable to both publications under that title and is relevant to the variant record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:08, 5 March 2023 (EST)

cheers mate for putting that right. Faustus (talk) 16:42, 5 March 2023 (EST)

The Quantum Thief

Hi Faustus -

I approved your addition of The Quantum Thief. Your notes indicate both the first and the fourth printing. I expect you meant the fourth based on the date you supplied. Could you please take a look at the notes and adjust as necessary. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 11:59, 14 March 2023 (EDT)

cheers mate, done it Faustus (talk) 13:25, 14 March 2023 (EDT)

John Gray o' Middleholm

I approved this submission adding the date of original publication. I massaged the note so it's clear to a casual observer where you got the information. Here is the updated title record. John Scifibones 17:20, 18 March 2023 (EDT)

cheers m8 Faustus (talk) 22:34, 18 March 2023 (EDT)

Matheson - I Am Legend

Hello Faustus, you uploaded a cover scan for this publication so I'm assuming you have that book. If so, could you please confirm that there is no Introduction or Afterword in it. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 18:16, 18 March 2023 (EDT)

no mate not a sausage Faustus (talk) 22:38, 18 March 2023 (EDT)
Great, no sausages! Thanks. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 23:17, 18 March 2023 (EDT)
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