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"Edmund Hamiltion"

When you have a free minute, could you please double check whether Edmond Hamilton's first name is really spelled "Edmund" in your verified The Fanscient, #2 Winter 1948 and Fantasy Crossroads #8, May 1976? TIA! Ahasuerus 21:57, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Both should be "Edmond". Fixes submitted. Thanks for catching these! Bob 00:26, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Ahasuerus 02:00, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

MagiCon Program Book

I have a few questions about the way the MagiCon: The 50th World Science Fiction Convention Program / Souvenir Book was entered:

  1. First off, I'm curious about how you arrived at the title "MagiCon: The 50th World Science Fiction Convention Program / Souvenir Book". I can't find the title printed in that form anywhere within the book, nor on the cover or the spine. Most convention program books don't have a title page in the usual sense, and this one is no exception. The two statements on page 3, including the copyright statement, refer to this as "The MagiCon Program/Souvenir Book". If you agree, I'd like to change the title to "The MagiCon Program/Souvenir Book" with a note as to how that was derived. Any of the interior art credits that take their name from that of the book should follow the same convention.
  2. I'd recommend that we disambiguate the possibly generic titles with the name of the book in parenthesis. These would include:
    "A Message from the Editor" on page 4
    "The Hugo Award Winners" on page 113
  3. For many of the pieces of interior artwork, you have used the title of the book rather than the title of the article or story that it accompanies. I'd recommend that we change the titles of the following pieces:
    The Davis piece on page 4 to "A Message from the Editor (The MagiCon Program/Souvenir Book)"
    The Duensing piece on page 6 to "Jack Vance: Author Guest of Honor"
    The Davis piece on page 8 to "An Abbreviated Jack Vance Bibliography"
    The Davis piece on page 10 to "Vincent Di Fate: Artist Guest of Honor"
    The Duram-Nilsson piece on page 14 to "The Once and Future Harp: Walt Willis, Fan Guest of Honor"
    The Davis piece on page 16 to "Spider Robinson: Toastmaster"
    The Di Fate piece on page 19 to "Serendipity: Do, Some Thoughts About Collaborative Writing"
    The Mohr piece on page 27 and the Davis piece on page 31 to "Out of the Void: "The Thing" and the Beginnings of the 1950's Film Cycle"
    The Davis piece on page 54 to "Ratropy"
    The Duram-Nilsson piece on page 61 to "The Gift"
    The Mohr piece on page 93 to "Science Fiction"
    The Mohr piece on page 97 to "Fandom's New Hope for Mars: The Report of the Synthesis Group"
    The Davis piece on page 103 to "Choices"
    The Gryniewicz piece on page 127 to "Worldcon History: The World Science Fiction Conventions from 1939 to 1994"
    The Davis piece on page 146 to "Constitution of the World Science Fiction Society, January 1992"
    The remaining artwork on pages 151-165 as "Members of MagiCon, the 50th Worldcon", with two exceptions. The Duram-Nilsson on page 153 and the Alvarez on page 158 could be entered as cartoons as indicated under Entry Type->INTERIORART.
  4. I think the authorship of "An Abbreviated Jack Vance Bibliography" should be by Hewett and Daryl Mallett. I can't find Robinson's pseudonym "B. D. Wyatt" credited either in the opening paragraph, or in the table of contents.
  5. For "Vincent Di Fate: Artist Guest of Honor", I'd recommend that we list the author only as Hendee. I would then add the two appreciations separately under their own titles as they appear on page 10 and 11.

I'm happy to make these changes. Let me know what you think. I picked up my copy of this program used. I hope you got yours at the convention. I've attended two conventions where Vance was guest of honor, but unfortunately not this one. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Ron, I looked for the booklet a while today and haven't been able to find it. Why don't you go ahead and make whatever changes you feel necessary. I'll continue to look for it occasionally; I always have a bit of trouble with locating the convention booklets because of the weaknesses of my "filing system", such as it is. I also purchased this program used; I seldom attend conventions (the Chicago Pulp and Paperback Show is local, so easy for me to attend). Your concerns seem reasonable, and I have no real objections. Once I find the program, I may have comments. Bob 17:08, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Names of maps

If a map is titled you can use that title or give it the title of the work it illustrates. If the latter then add "(map)" to the title. The ones you added to this record, this record, and this record appear to be a mixture of the two options. Mhhutchins 22:27, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

O.K., I think they are now fixed. Bob 00:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

The Man-Kzin Wars

The ISBN in this record has an extra digit. Mhhutchins 20:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Sure does! Fixed. Thank you! Bob 20:55, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

The Jewel in the Skull

The first DAW Books printing of this title was in January 1977. Is there any internal evidence that the third printing was also printed in the same year? Also, can you get with Hauck about this record which also says it's the third printing? His has a later ISBN and a higher price. Must be another printing statement screw-up by the DAW staff. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Same situation with the date of this record. If it's not stated, the date field should be zeroed. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:32, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Michael, I zeroed them out, but I'm pretty confident they were printed soon after the first printing. Prices and ISBNs are identical between the first and third printings and other Moorcock paperbacks have closely dated printings. I remember the late 70s was a time of strong inflation, so one would expect prices to rise if there was significant time between printings. But I really don't know for sure. Bob 21:43, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Feel free to add your thoughts about the possible publication date of undated publications in the record's Note field. It is also acceptable to give a date to an undated publication if the evidence is overwhelming and/or from a reliable secondary source, as long you give that evidence/source in the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Length for "The Creatures of Man"

Can you try to estimate the word count on "The Creatures of Man", from your collection of the same name? Locus1 calls it a short story, and I can see it is well below 20 pages in a couple of the other publications in which it appeared. I'm wondering if your proposed novelette length for it is longer than is warranted. Thanks. --MartyD 02:37, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Marty, I certainly can live with ss for the story. Looking at several of the other stories in the collection that have been labelled ss, this one fits that size. There seem to be a number of rather long short stories or short novelettes that Myers wrote; I was rather surprised that there were so many "shortfiction" designations among the stories in the collection, but understand why. Thanks for looking this one up! Bob 17:16, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

A Clash of Kings

A few problems with this record:

  • Is the piece by John Howe shortfiction?
No, fixed.
  • The page numbers of the pieces by Charles Keegen and Graig Kreindler are incorrectly entered. If the Keegen piece is for the endpapers, there should be no page numbers and it should be titled "A Clash of Kings (endpapers)". And only the starting page of the map by Kreindler should be entered. Any circumstances about either can be explained in the Note field.
I've seen a number of cases where the endpapers were numbered as I did, but have no problem changing them as you describe. The Kreindler map is between pages 10 and 11, on an unnumbered foldout page; I said as much in the notes section. I took off the page numbers, but left the note.
  • Is the Acknowledgments more than a list of thank-yous? If not, there should not be a content record for it. (See here.)

Mhhutchins 03:05, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

The Acknowledgments has no list of thank-yous (The Subterranean Press books do have thank-yous labelled Acknowledgments, and I didn't enter those as contents). The section contains bios for the author and artists and a bibliography for the author; I explained that in a new note. Bob 18:24, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the note to explain why there's a content record for the Acknowledgments. Mhhutchins 21:25, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Same situations with this record. Mhhutchins 03:05, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Fixed the page numbering, added to the notes. Bob 18:31, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Weird Tales facsimile

Please check the publication date for this record? A $35.00 price for an 1936 publication? Mhhutchins 02:46, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 16:32, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

A Feast for Crows

You used the wrong function to add this record to the database. You'll have to merge the newly-created title record with the one already in the database. Mhhutchins 02:48, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I knew that when I created the record. Merged and finished. Bob 16:33, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Meisha Merlin ed. of A Game of Thrones

Please do a verification of record for the lettered edition or give a source. Also, the "?" in the notes should be changed to indicate either a actual number (if known) or state "an unknown number". Leaving as it is looks like a typo. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:23, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Same situation with A Clash of Kings. Mhhutchins 17:26, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Note added to both. Bob 20:47, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Amos Salmonson titles in The Diversifier

Just an FYI that I have varianted all Amos Salmonson titles to Jessica Amanda Salmonson in your verified issues of "The Diversifier". She changed gender in the mid-1970s. Ahasuerus 21:51, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

"The Captain of the Guards"

The submission adding this publication was accepted, but it was missing a content record. I added that, and also added a colon to separate the title from the subtitle. Mhhutchins 05:11, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Michael. Bob 23:56, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Torch of Freedom - David Weber & Eric Flint

Can you take a look at your copy of Torch of Freedom? My copy differs in a number of ways from the copy you verified. a) My copy has 602 pages vs. your 512, b) My copy has disc marked "The Torch of Freedom Disk" bound in the back same as yours except that the library version is 20 vs. your 9 (the disk is copyrighted 2009). c) Mine has "First Printing, November 2009" vs. just "First printing" (there is also a number line "10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1" lower down on the page. Curious. SFJuggler 05:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I've changed the number of pages; I'm not sure why I had the wrong number, but it was probably entered that way from the original entry (which was based on Amazon information); the page numbers are frequently incorrect pre-publication. I just was careless, and didn't check. I added the number line info. While the full quote for "First Printing, November 2009" is the same, the important part is the first printing and I normally don't include the date here. The full number line is also redundant, of course, but I do usually add mention of it when it exists. Now the disk: I looked more carefully at the number, and it still looks like 9.0 to me, but that honestly doesn't seem likely. I see why you think it might be 20, but I entered it as 2.0. I'm not sure that there is a decimal; if you are sure that there is not a decimal, feel free to remove it. Bob 15:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
You are right. I stand corrected. It is 9.0. The screen printing is terrible on the CD. I looked at it under a magnifying glass and the decimal point blends into the 9 making it look like a 2 but it's definitely "9.0". I'm going to correct it in my records. ;)SFJuggler 03:07, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

A Feast of Crows: Sketches

Bob, a couple of problems with your submission to add your verified pub to a series: as the PV could you double-check if the pub is not titled "A Feast of Crows" but "A Feast for Crows" (as the cover states), and I believe the series you wish to add it to is "A Song of Ice and Fire", not "A Song of Fire and Ice". If these points are both in error, I'll reject the edit so you can re-do the title first. Thanks. PeteYoung 19:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I fixed the "of Crows" to "for Crows". I was consistently wrong with this one in that pub, including in the notes. Bob 00:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Why would it be added to the series at all? I don't see any of the interiorart records for these books added to the fiction series. Why should a collection of these interior art pieces be part of the series? Mhhutchins 20:26, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Since the sketches were the basis for illustrations in the book, it seemed reasonable to designate the pub as part of the series. But if you wish, I'll just leave the series off. Bob 00:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I accepted the submissions updating the title fields. You can cancel the original submission which Pete has on hold. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:09, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Seacon '79 Programme Book

I've got a few suggested changes to another Worldcon program book that we both own:

  1. Since the contents are primarily essays, I'd suggest we make this a NONFICTION publication.
  2. The titles appear to have been added from the table of contents and some are different than they appear on their respective title pages. I can detail these if you'd like or just go ahead and make the changes.
  3. The page numbers for some of the essays or stories are for photographs or artwork that precedes the title page of the story. The help page regarding this practice is specifically about stories in magazines. Additionally, the table of contents for this book gives title page of the content item and not the preceding art or photo. I'd also point out that the art on page 24 is specifically titled "Fritz Leiber's 'Our Lady of Darkness'" and doesn't really illustrate the story beginning on page 25. I recall that you have previously suggested that you'd like to see the practice of indicating page numbers in this manner go beyond stories in magazines. However, you should probably propose this on the R&S page.
  4. I'd like to add the "Hansen's Identification Guide to Selected British Fanzine Fans" on page 41 and the illustrations on pages 46, 63, 128 and 134.
  5. The illustration on page 47 is an advertisement for Australia in 83 and should be deleted.
  6. I probably would have entered the illustration on page 52 as a cartoon.
  7. I'd disambiguate the titles on pages 64 and 68. These aren't usual candidates, but almost every Worldcon program book has these titles, and I've found it expedient to do so.
  8. The Poyser illustration on page 69 doesn't need the [2] after that since there is no confusion between her illustration and the Litwinczuk on page 68.
  9. I'd suggest we do individual essays for Dreams of Empire beginning on page 71, Having it as a single essay makes it seem like it is a collaboration on a single essay. Additionally, a couple of them have their own titles.
  10. Similarly, I'd suggest individual items for each of the pieces of artwork beginning on 81. I'd also add an uncredited essay for the text.

As with the last Worldcon book that I asked you about, I hope you had the opportunity to attend this one. I working backwards in time entering these books from my collection. My first Worldcon was in 98, so all of these I'm entering are as a collector only. If you concur with the changes, I'll go ahead and make the edits. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:48, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Ron, I concur with all your suggestions, except I still hold out for consistency with the illustrations leading the title page of the essay/story. These programs really are magazines, after all. But go ahead and make the changes as you indicate. The only citation I'm embarrassed about is the illustration on p. 83 - just blew that one. Thanks for taking so much trouble with this pub. Bob 17:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The City in the Glacier

Hi, I'm changing the cover artist for this publication from Bechaudes (incorrect reading of signature) to Fernando Fernandez. Cover art is the same as for the later Ace edition (see Amazon image), which ISFDB does credit to Fernandez. Horzel 11:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for catching this one! Bob 15:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Proposed A Small Colonial War edits

Hi Bob. See your note and its follow-ups. This is for your submission that I have on hold. Looks like maybe you edited and 2-verified the wrong record? These are the changes from your submission:

Pages: [12]+289
    "First Edition" on copyright page.
    Number line runs from 14 through 4.
    Cover artist credited on copyright page.
    LCCN: 89-91892


    Principal Characters (A Small Colonial War)

    Order of Battle (L-Day + 14), First Battalion, 35th Infantry (Rifle)

    Akashi Continent, Suid-Afrika (Inhabited Region)

Assuming you agree, please don't cancel the submission. I'm going to point Teddybear to this. If the additional content and/or anything else applies to the first edition, I may accept the submission and just remove/revert whatever does not apply. Thanks. --MartyD 00:43, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Marty, it appears I have a later printing, although I'm sure the content exists in the first printing as well. I'll hold off doing anything until Teddybear and you work out what to do, then enter the 4th printing as a clone. My problem was that based on the number line running from 4 to 14, I wasn't sure that was indicating a fourth printing, or if it was some weird kind of first printing set of numbers. Based on Teddybear's reply, it's clearly a later printing. Bob 19:36, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Teddybear pointed out we have this 4th printing record. I never even noticed. That was my "wrong record" reference. Anyway, waiting is certainly fine. We could accept and import into that, too. --MartyD 00:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Teddybear agreed, so I accepted your submission, removing the one note about the number line. I was going to import into the existing 4th printing record for you, but I see it has a primary verifier Dcarson. Technically, you should ask first, but Dana's a moderator, so you could probably submit the modifications and import and drop him a note that the proposed changes have been submitted for review. If anyone yells at you, you can blame my inappropriate advice. :-) --MartyD 12:17, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Artist on The Compleat Traveller in Black

I accepted your submission but changed the spelling on the last name from Embdem to Embden, since it looked like a simple typo. If that's not correct, let me know and I'll put it back. Thanks. --MartyD 01:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure that it should be Embden, but the name on the pub is Embdem. I suppose that should be a variant. Bob 19:28, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Great, thanks for checking. I will put it back and do the pseudonym / variant thing. --MartyD 00:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

SFBC ed. of The Gods Themselves

Could this be the same as your copy of the title? We don't create separate records for later printings of book club editions if the catalog number remains the same. Just record the gutter code and printing date in Note field of the original record. (See this help page for book club entry standards.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:40, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I must have accidentally hit clone instead of edit to add the gutter code. Sorry about that. Bob 17:12, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Limitations of the page count field

As you can see by this record, the page count field is limited to a set number of characters. You'll have to come up with a different way of presenting the page count field. I'd suggest going back to the original count of "227+227+225" and explain the extra pages in the Note field. Mhhutchins 21:49, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Ouch! O.K., fixed. Bob 17:30, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Not yet. There's still too many characters in the page count field. As I said above, there's a limit and you've surpassed it, so that last four characters aren't visible. Mhhutchins 20:28, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Biggle's The Grandfather Rastin Mysteries

This record (and its title reference) will have to be changed to COLLECTION. The NONGENRE type is reserved only for nongenre novels. Unfortunately, there is no way to designate a nongenre collection other than in the Note fields of the publication record and the title record. Also, please confirm the ISBN, which is coming up as an invalid number. Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 16:33, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


Re Moving Mars: "Bookcassette" is not a standard entry for the publication format field. Please look at this list and determine if the format is described here. If not, leave the field blank, and describe the publication in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I changed it to "audio tape". It is the particular type of audio cassette peculiar to Brilliance that lets them cram a lot of text onto a few tapes, but I guess that isn't critical. Bob 16:28, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

The Tower of Shadows

Re this record: Where does the interiorart appear? "ep" means an unnumbered page appearing after the numbered ones. (See here.) If that's the case, it's best to count forward from the last numbered page, and add those pages to the page count field in brackets. If you mean the illustration is on the endpapers, then the page number field should be blanked, and noted in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 16:39, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Reflections of A. E. Van Vogt

Hello, .SFJuggler wants to change the title of Reflections of A.E. van Vogt to _Reflections of A. E. van Vogt: The Autobiography of a Science Fiction Giant: With a Complete Bibliography _, can you give us your thoughts on the matter here ? Thanks. Hauck 14:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't particularly like the change. If you agree with it, I can tolerate added words, but would prefer to leave the title as it is. I really don't much care for adding subtitles to the pub titles when it isn't needed for disambiguation. Bob 16:24, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Republic of Thieves

You should have cloned this record to create a second printing, not change what is assumed to be a record for the first printing of the title. I'll create a new record for the first printing. Please keep this in mind when creating records for non-1st printings in the future. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Since this pub was shipped to me in October, I thought it was the first printing by this publisher, who was attributing the first printing to Gollancz. The book was on my Amazon watch list for months, and I ordered it within a week of it's becoming available. I had no idea there could be a second printing in the same month as the first one. Obviously, the publisher badly underestimated the demand, but responded quickly. So I do not make a habit of changing first printing records to second printings; this was a special case. Bob 15:26, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Also, you need to change the parentheses to brackets in the page count field and in the page field for the map. And are you sure the second printing was published on the same day? If not, it should be zeroed out, the usual way to date non-dated second printings. You can add a note about the date of purchase to narrow it down, but that should not be given as the printing date. Mhhutchins 23:51, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

The month is clearly correct (I actually received the pub in October), unless the second printing was earlier than the first. Bob 15:26, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
So if the current dates on the records stand as is, the second printing will appear listed earlier in the list of publications. I personally feel the standard of zeroing the date should be used for non-dated later printings, and making a note of its appearance date. But I'm not going to push it. It would be nice if the software could display non-day but month-dated records as published on the "32nd" day of the month. That way the pub would be listed after any day-dated records. Mhhutchins 19:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Similar situation with the numbering in the titles of the interiorart contents for this record Mhhutchins 23:57, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 15:26, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Images for wraparound cover art

Exceptions can be made to the standards for file limits when uploading the cover image for a book with wraparound art (like this one). The height should stay around 600 pixels (meaning the width can be more than 900 pixels if necessary.) Also, you don't have to stay under the 150 kb limit for the file size, and can go up to 200 kb or more depending upon the resolution. But try to reduce it if possible while maintaining the dimensions. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:04, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Michael. I didn't know that, and resolution would be better in many cases. Bob 15:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

"The Captain of [the] Guards"

There are currently two records for what appears to be the same publication. There's your verified record and this one which I suspect was created by SFJuggler. I'll leave a note on his page to come here so that the discussion will occur on one page. The differences will have to be reconciled, and one of them deleted. Thanks. Mhhutchins 07:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Personally I would just copy over the cover scan from my entry and keep your verified entry in the database.SFJuggler 19:41, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Compare the title fields of the pub and the content record. They don't match. BTW, I changed the series of Biomassbob's from "A Song of Fire and Ice" to the correct series name. Also, I resized SFJuggler's cover image file from 892 pixels to 600. Using either image is fine with me, but once decided let me know, so I can delete the other one. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:20, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I copied the cover scan from SFJuggler's entry onto my verified pub. I stuck with the title the way I entered it. From my perspective, Michael can delete SFJuggler's entry at this point. Bob 20:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
If the title given on the title page (with the extra "the") differs from the front cover title, it would be a good idea to note that to avoid inquiries such as this. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Wesleyan Press ed. of Delany's Dhalgren

Hi, Bob. Your submission to update this record brought this edition to my attention. I never realized that there was a signed limited hardcover edition of this title. I've kept my eye out for a copy of the Gregg Press edition, never realizing there was a subsequent hardcover edition from another publisher. But prices for those have become so prohibitive that I'd given up hope of ever having this title in hardcover. I just bought a shrink-wrapped copy of the Wesleyan Press limited edition from a dealer on for $120. Three other copies were selling from $250-$400. Can I ask if you can recall what was the original price upon publication or how much you may have paid for it? It can't have been much less than what I just paid for it. Mhhutchins 22:27, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. I just looked at the Locus index which gives the price as $125. Guess I got a bargain! Thanks. (I'll update the record to add the price, giving the source, since you said that there is no stated price.) Mhhutchins 22:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Michael, I paid $76 for it ten years ago. My records show a list price of $65, but I don't know where I found that value so I didn't use it in my entry. The $65 value seems more likely than the $125 you found, but I have no proof. I have seen several copies of the Gregg version, but never for less than $650. Too much for me, given that I have the Wesleyan book. Bob 00:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Still a bargain at $120, IMHO, considering it's a signed edition in a relatively small press run of a major title in the field. And much better than paying $1000 for a signed copy of the Gregg Press edition which had about the same press run. If you ever find the source for the $65 please don't hesitate to update the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I agree that the price you paid is quite reasonable; it is a nice copy of the book. I suspect the dealer I bought my copy from used the $65 in his ad, but of course I'll never find that now. Bob 00:43, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

The Kindly Ones

Please confirm the ISBN given in this record. It's coming up as an invalid number. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Another one to check. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:37, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

I wish they would just use ordinary numbers instead of getting fancy. Both fixed. Bob 00:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I know what you mean. BTW, I have all (but the last) of the SFBC editions of the collected Sandman. When I started entering my books, graphic novels were ineligible for inclusion. regardless of their authors. Eventually I'll pull them out and do a second Primary Verification of the records. I also have trade softcover editions of the first three which are not currently in the database. Do you have any of them? If not, I can create records for them. Mhhutchins 00:47, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Michael, I do not have them. As far as I know, the SFBC didn't publish the first three -- at least I never saw them. Gaiman's biblio without his graphic novels would be pretty incomplete, IMHP. Bob 01:02, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
As I said, those first three collections are the ones I have in the trade editions, but only because the SFBC never issued them in hardcover editions. But I don't doubt some publisher has. If you have an extra $500 lying around, the silver edition was announced for pre-order today and will probably be sold out by this time tomorrow. Mhhutchins 01:33, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Wow! Now if I were a Gaiman fan (which I'm not), I'd be tempted. Just as well I'm not; I just had to buy a new furnace. Bob 01:39, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I am a Gaiman fan, but I can find better things to do with $500! Mhhutchins 01:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Save the Veils!

Bob, it seems that the mentioned essay is or incorporates a review of the german edition of Starship & Haiku, because this magazine states that it was taken from Fantasy Newsletter, #61 (or is it more a review of the somewhat amazing cover art)?!. Would it be sensible to add a corresponding review (or possibly to change it to one?). Christian Stonecreek 15:54, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Wow, what a misreading of the content of the column! Somtow does discuss the German version of the book, complaining about how misleading the blurb about him on the back of the jacket is. He also comments that while he admires the artwork on the cover, he thinks the concept for it was a product of a misunderstanding by the artist. He postulates that the German art director described the book as being "about Japan, samurai, and it has a lot of vales (whales, of course) being killed in it". So the artist showed veils being killed with a samurai sword. Somtow continued to discuss other recent misunderstandings in his relationship with fans, and finishes up talking about Return of the Jedi. No book review in any way, shape or form. Bob 18:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, the german version has exactly the (supposed) error of Goldmann's editor and/or the artist; there's no discussion of the actual content (wouldn't be meaningful considering that Somtow is the author). It is just presented in the reviews section of Science Fiction Times, but I'll change it into an essay and variant. Thanks for taking a look. Stonecreek 18:49, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
This discussion presents a lovely argument: "Why aren't authors allowed to review their own work?" Ha! Mhhutchins 18:52, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, thinking about that, there seems to be no need to review the plot and style of a book, in fact there are hundreds of reviews which don't do it (or just retell the cover blurb). So what if I add a review to the issue of Fantasy Newsletter with a note what Somtow comments on? I could also add a comment to the essay using your summary above.
There are for sure reviews of their own work by some authors, at least under pseudonym. I remember coming across one not so long ago, but don't remember who it was.
And I have found a possible typo on p. 28 in this issue (Samtow instead of Somtow). Stonecreek 09:23, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for catching the typo. I have no objection if you want to add the "review" and comment. Bob 14:45, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Looking at this from an outsider, I don't see how an essay about the writing or the publishing of one's work could in any way be considered a "review". If that were the case, hundreds, if not thousands, of introductions, afterwords, memoirs, etc would be considered a "review". If Christian feels strongly that such a work should be typed as REVIEW, before going down that rabbit hole, I would suggest that he open a discussion on the Rules & Standards page. Mhhutchins 15:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I certainly won't do anything like that. But there is a book review involved, in that it reviews some aspects (cover blurb, cover art) of a published book. There's no statement of quality of the novel involved, but Somtow does review the publishing side of one of his novels (and the translation is presented as a review: "Rezensionen" is the german word for "Reviews", what is I referred to: certainly we have hundreds of reviews with even less content or esprit in our database). Stonecreek 16:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I've often read pieces in which the author discusses the "physical" aspects of the publication of their work. How this can be considered a review is beyond me! ISFDB review records are linked to titles, not to publications. If an essay only refers to the physical aspects of one publisher's product, it is not a review of the work (the linked title record), especially if the piece is written by the author of the work. It would be outrageous to consider such essays as reviews and link them to the title. Perhaps it would be better to push for a feature which would link an essay to the title record of the subject work instead of shoehorning the REVIEW function into doing something it wasn't designed for. (IMHO, that has consistently been the major problem with the ISFDB software.) Mhhutchins 17:04, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Michael, but there are already reviews that don't do anything then that: just take the re-publication of a classic novel (or a CHAPTERBOOK edition of a prominent story), where the only comment is on the editorial aspect and/or the art. If you think on it, there certainly will come numerous examples of this to your mind. Stonecreek 17:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't the fact that it's written by the author be a factor in this? I'd wager my life's savings that S. P. Somtow in no way considers this a review of his work. Nor would the average user of the database. You're redefining the very meaning of the REVIEW function just in order to link the essay to the subject work. We overuse functions to the point of bursting here on the ISFDB, and I'd hate to see another use for the REVIEW type. The piece by Somtow is an ESSAY according to the function's current usage in the db. Adding another record to the publication record just to link it to a "review" published in another publication is wrong. I have varianted the review to the essay so you can see that it's possible to do so. This seems to me to be a better solution to the situation than creating a review record in the original publication. If you disagree, feel free to remove it once you've looked it over. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:53, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

That's fine by me. I also didn't want another use for the REVIEW type and so I tried to avoid a review of a cover art, which would probably the correct way to enter this (but this would be probably welcome to some editors for entering art reviews in general). Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 18:06, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but rereading the text, Somtow in fact comments shortly on the quality of the translation, so that it should be considered a review. I made the appropriate changes, also to the notes. Stonecreek 18:51, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


Is there a dash used on the title page between the title and subtitle of this publication? Mhhutchins 22:14, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Also, if there is any separation in this work's title between "Afterword" and the remainder of the title (other than a single space as given here), or a change in font or size, or appearing on separate lines on the title page, a colon should be used. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Submitted change for the dash - sub below the main title. And there is only a space as shown for the "Afterword". No size or type differences, no difference in line. I thought it was kind of weird, but that's the way it is. Bob 22:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
So the book's title on its title page has a slash (/) instead of a dash? If the subtitle is below the title, the titles should be separated by a colon. Mhhutchins 00:31, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
There shouldn't be a space before the colon. Mhhutchins 03:35, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

1999 Ace ed. of Dune

It looks like the record you want to add is the same as this record. The only difference was the price, and an insignificant difference in the page count field, and a quick check of this record's source (Locus1) shows that it was incorrectly entered and has the same price as the record you want to create. I've corrected the price and now it matches your submission exactly. Please cancel your submission, and update and verify the current record. (Be sure to disambiguate the "Appendixes" which you were adding to record.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Since you neither responded to this message nor cancelled the submission, I checked the current record and saw that you primary verified it. I'll reject the submission. BTW, you still need to disambiguate the "Appendixes". Mhhutchins 05:39, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to cancel the submission. Fixed the ambiguous. Bob 19:24, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Cover art credit for A Song of Arbonne

Before I make a variant record, can you confirm that the cover artist of this publication is credited as "Kraft" instead of "Craft"? Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Confirmed. Bob 18:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Variant created. Mhhutchins 19:36, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Gutter code

In response to the question you posed in the Note to Moderator field of the submission to update this record:

Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

O.K., now I see it. But the Y27 code seems to fit the publication date, and that one is both verified and earlier than the N34. Bob 19:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
My original note did not insist it had to be "N34", only that it was in that range. It was a guess (look at the gutter codes of the selections around it), and now it's confirmed to have been a wrong one, not a bad one. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

A Calculus of Angels

Actually, the ISBN given in this publication is the SFBC-assigned ISBN, not the one from the trade edition (0-345-40607-9). As such, it should be given in the ISBN/Catalog # field, and the SFBC ID # should be given in the Note field. Thanks. You may also want to note that this is the first hardcover edition (unstated). Mhhutchins 22:22, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks. Bob 00:43, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

The Sea of the Ravens

It would be a good idea to disambiguate the generically title "Untitled Notes" in this record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:39, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Whoops! Fixed. Bob 01:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
I've shortened the title to simply "Notes" with the disambiguation. While they don't have their own title page, they are given a title in the table of contents. I also added the Worldcat and Library of Congress links. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:19, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

The Life Eaters

Based on word count alone, most graphic "novels" are not, novels that is. Sometimes, they're not even novellas. I made this record into a CHAPTERBOOK, adding a SHORTFICTION content for Brin's story. Also, there was no reason to disambiguate the artist's afterword. Only generically titled works should be disambiguated. This one seems to have a very specific title. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:59, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

O.K. Bob 01:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Spectrum 19

You verified a copy of Spectrum 19 -- I've made some changes to the Jeffery Jones image here and added a new version (mine is not 1st ed TP) I'm working on adding items to. MHutchins recommended I notify you of this. Susan O'Fearna 05:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Bravo, Susan. I've shied away from entering most fantasy art books that I own, except for the Spectrums, and there kept the details to a minimum. I figured it was better to get the books into the database, and to come back later to add individual artworks. I'm glad to see someone else filling in details. Bob 20:17, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I have several of the Spectrums,... actually, I have an entire bookshelf devoted to art books... Susan O'Fearna 01:46, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Susan, apparently we're a small minority of the editors, ones who collect fantasy art books. I have probably not a shelf, but a bookcase full of such books. I also have a number of portfolios by Frazetta, Bok, Fabian, Brunner and others. My next project will be to enter Spectrum 20, then detail the other Spectrums. Bob 20:08, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Facsimile of Weird Tales, Aug-Sep 1936

I made some changes to the original publication of the Aug-Sep 1936 issue of Weird Tales and noted that you had verified the facsimile of the same issue. Assuming it is a true facsimile, you may want to consider the following changes, or, if you agree with all of them, you could delete the entire contents from the facsimile and import from the original issue:

  1. The De Lay illustration on page 173 should probably be titled "Werewolf of the Sahara".
  2. The Derleth and Schorer story should credited Derleth as "August W. Derleth".
  3. The Baltadonis letter should be credited as "John V. Baltadonis"
  4. The Eyrie should not be credited to Wright. Although he almost certainly wrote "The Eyrie", he is not credited. I've always credited these to "The Editor" as result of these lines from this help page: 'If a work is attributed to a role, e.g. "Editor" or "Publisher", then use that name as the author, even if you have clear evidence as to who the author really is. For example, editorials in magazines were frequently uncredited, or credited to "The Editor"; these should be entered with the Author field set to "The Editor".'
  5. The same help page referenced above, in this section, allows us to append the title of the letter at the editor's option. I've appended the titles in the original issue. If you don't care to use the same form, we should probably make a variant relationship between the two title records.

Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:57, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Easiest thing was to delete and import. Done. Bob 21:03, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Blood Crime

I added the Canada price to Blood Crime BungalowBarbara 22:35, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Great! Bob 23:58, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Grantville Gazette IV

The piece on page 189 of this publication looks unusual. A two-page serial titled "Continuing Serials"? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 03:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

This is a section title. There is only one "continuing serial" here, the next item in the contents by David Carrico. After that item is another section titled "Fact" with a number of items. I wasn't (and still am not) sure how to handle this. Bob 18:08, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
We don't create content records for the title pages of book sections unless it contains text other than a title, and even then rarely. It probably should be removed from the publication and deleted from the db. Mhhutchins 18:43, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

For a Few Demons More

Added information to notes of For a Few Demons More (cover artist credit, publication code, Canada price) and changed image link to more stable link (same image, just different link). No deletions or changes. BungalowBarbara 03:44, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Great! In notice you didn't verify the pub. Why not? Bob 17:35, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

The MagiCon Program/Souvenir Book

Can you confirm the spelling of the artist credit for the work on page 10 of this publication? Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I'll check when I can find the pub. My alleged filing system for convention programs is totally lame; I looked in the obvious places, but no luck yet. I will keep looking. Bob 19:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
If you find it and it's entered as credited, please make it into a variant for Wayne Barlowe. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
My copy was close at hand. It's as credited and I've built the variant. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:10, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

"The Great Simolean Caper"

Are you certain this is an ESSAY and not SHORTFICTION? I merged the essay record you entered with the one that was already in the database as a short story. The Wikipedia article describes it as a short story also. Mhhutchins 23:35, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, yes it is fiction. I was under some pressure when I was entering that pub, and just tagged all the contents as essays. The thing that bothered me about the three previously published items in the pub is that they are all reported to be "different" versions, but there is no information on how they are different. Bob 02:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
We don't create variants based on textual changes, but only if the author credit or title of the story changes. You can always note (as you did) any textual differences in the title record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:48, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Midnight Sun

Please confirm the ISBN given in this record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Bob 03:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wagner poems

You're entering original publication data in the Synopsis field. It should go in the Note field. Mhhutchins 21:42, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Moved them. Thanks, Mike. Bob 21:51, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Red Harvest

I was unable to either accept or reject the submission to clone a new record of Red Harvest. You merged one of its contents in a previous submission, and before that submission was accepted, made this submission to clone a record that contains a title (the poem "Midnight Sun") which no longer exists. (Merging deletes the newer of the two records from the database.) In the future, be conscious of subsequent changes to content records for which submissions are still in the queue. Now that the original merge submission has been accepted, you can make a new submission to clone the pub record. Sorry. Mhhutchins 21:54, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Rats! I hesitated to create the clone, but then decided that since I had not edited the original pub, but only the contents in it, that the clone would be o.k. Shows what I know. Bob 19:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Derleth's Over the Edge

I found a source for the month of publication for August Derleth's Over the Edge and I have added it and a note as to the source. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Hey, neat! Thanks, Ron! Bob 19:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

The Book of the Sixth World Fantasy Convention 1980

Could you take a look at this conversation. We'd like your opinion on the inclusion of the pocket program in the cover scan (or indeed any of the other changes that were made). Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:48, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

"Two Sort-of Adventures"

Can you check to see if the piece in this book is actually an essay, or a pastiche of Leiber's Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser stories already in the database with the same title as SHORTFICTION? Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

It is indeed SHORTFICTION. Fixed, and varianted to Richard A. Lupoff. I'll leave it to you to merge. Bob 20:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Merging it with the other record (the one I linked to) would have done both in one submission. I'll fix it. Mhhutchins 21:27, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

The Pride of Bear Creek

I added Glenn Lord's essay to the 1966 printing of The Pride of Bear Creek. I also noticed that the story that had been listed as "The Conquerin' Hero of the Humboldts" is actually presented as "The Conquerin' Hero of the Humbolts". This caused me to check the 1977 printing which also lists the story as "Humbolts". I've fixed both publications. FictionMags does have the original appearance as "Humboldts", so I've left that as the canonical title. I notice that you have several other collections that contain the story and you may want to double check in case more than just the Grant printings have the variant title. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:39, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Interesting case, Ron. The four Complete Action Stories, two from Paul Herman, two from Wildside, all show "Humboldts" as the story title and as page header over the story. But they all show "Humbolts" in the ToC! The website HowardWorks uses only "Humbolts"; I will contact the editor of that site about the spelling. I've corrected the spelling to "Humbolts" in the two U. of Nebraska pubs, and will have to come back and variant them once they are approved. I also note that Howard's original title was completely different! Thank you for pointing this one out. Bob 20:09, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Laumer's Galactic Odyssey

I'm holding a submission from an editor who is using a secondary source to add cover art credit to this primary verified record. Can you confirm that Richard Weaver is credited with the jacket design? Since this cover is more design than art, it seems to me that it would be OK to credit him in the Cover Artist field. Would you agree? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

I can indeed confirm Weaver is credited on the front jacket flap. I have no problem with putting his name in the Cover Artist field as long as the notes indicate he did the cover design (and hopefully note the credit is given on the front jacket flap). Bob 16:43, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Done. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:42, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

And All the Stars a Stage

User Horzel found the artist for this pub here. I added Enric to the record and adapted the notes. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:34, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Outstanding! Thanks, Willem. Bob 23:44, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


I added cover art credit (need to add notes, too...) for Technokill, which you verified, albeit as 2nd Primary. Susan O'Fearna 22:10, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Mike won't approve it till you say it's OK... the cover art appeared in Jean Pierre Targete's art-book Illumina, so even though there's no credit IN the book, I know the art is by him... Please say it's OK ^_^ S Susan O'Fearna 01:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
I kept looking at the pub and not seeing the credit! I think it's great you have found the artist, so it's very much o.k. with me. Sorry I hung things up. Bob 19:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Ardor on Aros

Have replaced Amazon Link to cover of Ardor on Aros with a scan of a verified copy Prof beard 14:22, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

:O.K. Bob 18:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

"Her Strong Enchantments Failing"

Is their any biographical information given about the author of the piece on page 85 of this publication? We have a Patrick L. McGuire who started contributing to fanzines shortly after this piece's publication, occasionally dropping the middle initial. Because it's a relatively common name, I'm guessing there's a strong possibility that it may be two different people. Patrick L. McGuire wrote much about Russian science fiction, so perhaps the essay's content may be a signal to his identity. Any assistance you can provide would be appreciated. Mhhutchins 03:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

The author is given as "Patrick L. McGuire" over the essay, just Patrick in the ToC and in the introduction. Apparently the DAW pubs with the essay just use Patrick as well. The essay is a criticism of "The Queen of Air and Darkness". It has 27 endnotes, and in the acknowledgments, he thanks Professor Manfred Halpern and Sandra Miesel, the latter not only for her articles on Anderson's work, but also for "fruitful discussion over a period of years". Maybe he's a recent graduate student (in 1974)? Otherwise, no idea. Bob 21:51, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Van Vogt and Hull's Out of the Unknown

I think we've got this title incorrectly listed as a collection when it should be an anthology. However, that raises issues about how the author(s) should be listed. Please see this discussion and weigh in if you wish. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:11, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [1]

Lacey and His Friends

Have replaced Amazon image with a scan of my verified copy in Lacey and His Friends Prof beard 10:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Science-Fiction Handbook, Revised: A Guide to Writing Imaginative Literature

Added a better cover scan to Science-Fiction Handbook, Revised: A Guide to Writing Imaginative Literature. Also changed LCCN and OCLC notes to links.SFJuggler 19:06, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Bob 23:06, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

"Conan the Texan", by Simon Sanahujas

You verified this publication as "Conan the Texan". WorldCat lists a French language title by this author and publisher titled "Conan le Texan". It seems odd that the same publisher would publish it in two languages, but they do list the French title as a 2008 publication, while yours is a 2009 publication. Can you verify that your book is a translation of the French title? Does it list the translator? Thanks, Chavey 02:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Pardon my intrusion, this book is likely this one, a translation of that one. Hauck 06:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! That shows that they were published by the same publisher, and gives publication dates beyond just the year. I'll update the two records. Chavey 17:36, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
The book itself does not credit the French edition, although it does credit the translators. All copies were sold by mail-order. Bob 23:12, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Could you add the translator credit to the notes on that book? Chavey 05:27, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Done! Bob 18:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Weird Tales Facsimiles and the Author of The Eyrie

I've been working on some of the unverified issues of Weird Tales and I've noticed that ones where you have a facsimile of the issue (e.g. [2]) thee are a few things that I'm changing when I work on the contents of the original issue. Most of these are not controversial (adding disambiguation to the titles, adding the month to the publication date). However, I've also noticed that you have many issues where Farnsworth Wright is listed as the author of "The Eyrie". Is Wright explicitly credited as authoring the Eyrie in your facsimile issues? None of the original issues nor the one facsimile that I own have an author credited for "The Eyrie" during Wright's editorship. Additionally, Jaffery and Cook's The Collector's Index to Weird Tales lists no author for the column for any issue. Unfortunately, Miller/Contento doesn't list "The Eyrie" at all. While I agree that Wright almost certainly wrote the column, unless he is explicitly credited, I think we need to change these to "The Editor" per the section on author in this help page. Since my intent is to expand the unverified issues of WT, I can make these changes as I encounter each issue. I can detail them for the issues where you have the facsimile, if you'd like, otherwise, if you agree, I'll proceed with the non-controversial changes without notification. I will, of course, inquire if I encounter anything where the secondary sources disagree with your facsimiles. Let me know if this is agreeable. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:54, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Go ahead, Ron, and make the changes in the facsimiles. I don't recall if I started this because one or more issues had "ed." or Wright's initials on some of his comments, but his name does not appear. Bob 19:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

The Fanscient #7

Can you confirm the spelling of the artist credit on page 25 of this publication? If it's entered as credited, I'll create a variant for Rotsler. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:30, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

It's a typo. Fixed. Thanks, Michael. Bob 22:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Star Fox - Anderson

Added gutter code note and changed LCCN to link in Star Fox.SFJuggler 01:31, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Confirm gutter code. Bob 17:28, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Murder Bound - Anderson

Added notes & links to Murder Bound.SFJuggler 03:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Shield - Anderson

Added notes & links to Shield.SFJuggler 03:50, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

He also changed the price to "15s" (which I corrected to "15/-". Please confirm that it's correct. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:34, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
My copy is price clipped. My records on the book say that the original price was 15/6, but I'm not sure where that came from and if SFJuggler's copy shows 15s, I bow to his source. Bob 17:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)