User talk:Biggewarner

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I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Mhhutchins 23:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Russell's The Prince of Darkness

Your submission to add a record for this title was accepted, but several changes had to be made in order for it to comply with ISFDB standards. Those are explained in the links of the Welcome section at the top of this page. If you have any further questions, please ask them on the ISFDB:Help_desk. These are the changes that were made:

1. Publisher changed to "Sphere", which is the ISFDB designation for the publisher
2. Binding was changed from "Book" to "pb", which is what we call softcover books that are 18 cm or less
3. The "#" was added to the catalog number, which we do in this field to distinguish catalog numbers from ISBNs
4. There can only be one price in the Price field. If there is more than one price stated in the book, record the additional ones in the "Note" field.
5. You should use standard English capitalization for titles, which omits the capitalization of certain small words like "a", "and", "of", and "the". (Other words are listed on the Help page for record entry. Bookmark this page if you plan to continue adding records to the database.)

Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 23:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I forgot to add: you must give the source for your data in the "Note" field of the record. Unless you're working from a book-in-hand, in which case you say that in the "Note to Moderator" field. Once the record is in the database, you should go back to it, and do a Primary Verification of the record (instructions in the Welcome section above.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Further research has shown that there is an ISBN stated in this pub: 0-7221-7548-5. I've replaced the catalog number with this number. I've also placed a link to the OCLC record in the Note field which confirms much of the data in the record. Mhhutchins 23:44, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

A question: I was unable to find any reference to the story you entered as "The Exploits". Could this be the group title for two stories "The Black Elixir" and "The Long Night"? If so on which page does each story begin? Thanks for checking. To respond to this message, click on the "[edit]" link to the right, type in your message at the bottom of the dialog box that opens. At the end enter four tildes (~~~~) which sign and date the message, and then click the button "Save Page". You must be logged-in to the ISFDB wiki, using the same user name and password which you used to log in to the database. Mhhutchins 00:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

"The Black Elixir" and "The Long Night" are both contained under the title "The Exploits Of Argo". "The Black Elixir" begins on page 17 and "The Long Night" begins on page 18. Biggewarner 00:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I actually just realized I had listed that story as "The Exploits". The correct title is "The Exploits of Argo". I'm not sure if I can change the listing myself, but it should be corrected. Biggewarner 04:18, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I have corrected the title, just needs to be approved. However I don't know the proper way of listing the details regarding "Black Elixir" and "Long Night" and so I will leave that to you, if any info does in fact need to be changed. Biggewarner 04:23, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

The ISFDB doesn't handle group titles very elegantly. I'll have to remove it and create content records for each of the two stories. BTW, you should enter a colon (:) before the start of each response, adding one to the number of the previous response. This will indent it and make it easier to read the "conversation". Thanks for responding. I'm happy to see you found your user talk page. Sometimes it takes months for a new editor to find it (and sometimes never, especially when they don't provide an email address for us to contact them.) Thanks again. Mhhutchins 04:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Kersh's Sad Road to the Sea

I'm holding the submission to add a record for this collection to the database, because I'm uncertain of the genre of these stories. If they are not speculative fiction, the collection is not eligible for the database. If you've read the stories, please let me know why there should be a record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:07, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Further research has shown that most major references for SF literature do not include this Kersh collection. Reginald, Tuck, and Contento all fail to list it. There may be a few spec-fic stories in the collection, but not enough for it to qualify as a sf publication. I'll hold the submission until you can respond to this message. Mhhutchins 00:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that. There are certain stories containing sf material and/or horror material, but counted as a whole I suppose it can't really be considered a collection of science-fiction stories. Sorry my mistake. Biggewarner 00:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

The only reason I added this collection is because I saw that "The Horrible Dummy and Other Stories" is included, and in my opinion both these collections contain about the same amount of SF stories. Biggewarner 00:43, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll look into that collection and see about removing any non-spec-fic stories from the db. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Mhhutchins 04:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

All Souls’ Night

I changed the publisher from 'Macmillian And Co.' to 'Macmillan and Co.' (suspecting two typos): if this was a mistake, please resubmit.

And you don't have to state 'Physical copy of book on-hand' in the notes, so I deleted that part: please just primary verify the publication - that way you'll be informed about changes or additions to the book (or put that statement into the 'Note to the moderator').

Thanks for the submission, anyway! Stonecreek 09:51, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, my mistake regarding the publisher. Just a quick question: I was told to include the source of my info for new entries, and if I had a book myself, to include that information in the "Notes To The Moderator" section. So should I have said I had my own copy in that section instead of in "Notes", or is it not required that I give that information anywhere? Thanks. Biggewarner 16:35, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I wonder if you can tell me - Why don't the corresponding titles from "All Souls' Night" match with their counterparts from "Tarnhelm: Best Supernatural etc."? What I mean is, the story "The Little Ghost" is one of the stories that both collections share, however they seem to be counted as different stories. Must they be identical in every way in order to be counted as the same? Do they both need to be counted as short stories instead of novelettes, and do they both need to have the same date of publication? Biggewarner 16:55, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, I'm really having trouble with this indenting business. I thought that for my second response, I put two semicolons before my first words, and for my third response, three semicolons, and so-on. But that doesn't seem to be doing it. Biggewarner 16:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Colons, not semi-colons. And you only need to increase indentation when you're responding to a paragraph. BLongley 19:54, 2 March 2013 (UTC)