https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Title Regularization - Revision history2024-03-29T12:28:18ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.6https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=580083&oldid=prevHolmesd: /* French */ subtitles and punctuation2020-05-09T01:30:54Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">French: </span> subtitles and punctuation</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There exist two different usages in French titles, and this data base uses the simpler (sentence case) : capital on the first word and on proper names; thus, ''Vingt mille lieues sous les mers''; ''De la Terre à la Lune'', etc. The more common French usage, discarded here, is quite complex, and not always followed to the letter by some publishers (thus, one should write ''La Guerre des étoiles'' but ''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu''; ''Le Grand Meaulnes'' but ''Un grand amour''; ''Le Temps démantelé'' but ''Le Petit Assassin''…).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There exist two different usages in French titles, and this data base uses the simpler (sentence case) : capital on the first word and on proper names; thus, ''Vingt mille lieues sous les mers''; ''De la Terre à la Lune'', etc. The more common French usage, discarded here, is quite complex, and not always followed to the letter by some publishers (thus, one should write ''La Guerre des étoiles'' but ''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu''; ''Le Grand Meaulnes'' but ''Un grand amour''; ''Le Temps démantelé'' but ''Le Petit Assassin''…).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For those who didn't flunk French at school (or worse, at college), these two usages are detailed [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_des_majuscules_en_fran%C3%A7ais#R%C3%A8gles_traditionnelles here]. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:19, 18 January 2020 (EST).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For those who didn't flunk French at school (or worse, at college), these two usages are detailed [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_des_majuscules_en_fran%C3%A7ais#R%C3%A8gles_traditionnelles here]. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:19, 18 January 2020 (EST).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Punctuation has a space before :, !, ?, ;, %, currency, « and ». These are the so-called double punctuation marks. They consist of (at least) two unconnected parts. The period (.) and comma (,) do not have the leading space.</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Holmesdhttps://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=572661&oldid=prevLinguist: /* French */2020-01-18T11:07:14Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">French</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There exist two different usages in French titles, and this data base uses the simpler (sentence case) : capital on the first word and on proper names; thus, ''Vingt mille lieues sous les mers''; ''De la Terre à la Lune'', etc. The more common French usage, discarded here, is quite complex, and not always followed to the letter by some publishers (thus, ''La Guerre des étoiles'' but ''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu''; ''Le Grand Meaulnes'' but ''Un grand amour''; ''Le Temps démantelé'' but ''Le Petit Assassin''…).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There exist two different usages in French titles, and this data base uses the simpler (sentence case) : capital on the first word and on proper names; thus, ''Vingt mille lieues sous les mers''; ''De la Terre à la Lune'', etc. The more common French usage, discarded here, is quite complex, and not always followed to the letter by some publishers (thus, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">one should write </ins>''La Guerre des étoiles'' but ''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu''; ''Le Grand Meaulnes'' but ''Un grand amour''; ''Le Temps démantelé'' but ''Le Petit Assassin''…).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For those who didn't flunk French at school (or worse, at college), these two usages are detailed [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_des_majuscules_en_fran%C3%A7ais#R%C3%A8gles_traditionnelles here]. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:19, 18 January 2020 (EST).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For those who didn't flunk French at school (or worse, at college), these two usages are detailed [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_des_majuscules_en_fran%C3%A7ais#R%C3%A8gles_traditionnelles here]. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:19, 18 January 2020 (EST).</div></td></tr>
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</table>Linguisthttps://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=572651&oldid=prevLinguist: formatting2020-01-18T10:19:53Z<p>formatting</p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">There exist two different usages in French titles, and this data base uses the simpler (sentence case) : capital on the first word and on proper names; thus, ''Vingt mille lieues sous les mers''; ''De la Terre à la Lune'', etc. The more common French usage, discarded here, is quite complex, and not always followed to the letter by some publishers (thus, ''La Guerre des étoiles'' but ''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu''; ''Le Grand Meaulnes'' but ''Un grand amour''; ''Le Temps démantelé'' but ''Le Petit Assassin''…).</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For those who didn't flunk French at school (or worse, at college), these two usages are detailed [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_des_majuscules_en_fran%C3%A7ais#R%C3%A8gles_traditionnelles here]. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:19, 18 January 2020 (EST).</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The order of dates is day-month-year. When abbreviating a year to two digits, do not put an apostrophe in front of it (e.g. a 1994 convention could be referred to as "Barcelona 94").</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The order of dates is day-month-year. When abbreviating a year to two digits, do not put an apostrophe in front of it (e.g. a 1994 convention could be referred to as "Barcelona 94").</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">There exist two different usages in French titles, and this data base uses the simpler (sentence case) : capital on the first word and on proper names; thus, ''Vingt mille lieues sous les mers''; ''De la Terre à la Lune'', etc. The more common French usage, discarded here, is quite complex, and not always followed to the letter by some publishers (thus, ''La Guerre des étoiles'' but ''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu''; ''Le Grand Meaulnes'' but ''Un grand amour''; ''Le Temps démantelé'' but ''Le Petit Assassin''…).</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For those who didn't flunk French at school (or worse, at college), these two usages are detailed [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_des_majuscules_en_fran%C3%A7ais#R%C3%A8gles_traditionnelles here]. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:19, 18 January 2020 (EST).</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
</table>Linguisthttps://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=572650&oldid=prevLinguist: /* French */ new section2020-01-18T10:19:04Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">French: </span> new section</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Titles are separated from subtitles by a colon (however, if the title ends with a question mark or exclamation point, there is no colon). The start of the subtitle is not capitalized. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Titles are separated from subtitles by a colon (however, if the title ends with a question mark or exclamation point, there is no colon). The start of the subtitle is not capitalized. </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The order of dates is day-month-year. When abbreviating a year to two digits, do not put an apostrophe in front of it (e.g. a 1994 convention could be referred to as "Barcelona 94").</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The order of dates is day-month-year. When abbreviating a year to two digits, do not put an apostrophe in front of it (e.g. a 1994 convention could be referred to as "Barcelona 94").</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== French ==</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">There exist two different usages in French titles, and this data base uses the simpler (sentence case) : capital on the first word and on proper names; thus, ''Vingt mille lieues sous les mers''; ''De la Terre à la Lune'', etc. The more common French usage, discarded here, is quite complex, and not always followed to the letter by some publishers (thus, ''La Guerre des étoiles'' but ''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu''; ''Le Grand Meaulnes'' but ''Un grand amour''; ''Le Temps démantelé'' but ''Le Petit Assassin''…).</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For those who didn't flunk French at school (or worse, at college), these two usages are detailed [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_des_majuscules_en_fran%C3%A7ais#R%C3%A8gles_traditionnelles here]. [[User:Linguist|Linguist]] 05:19, 18 January 2020 (EST).</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Linguisthttps://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=535524&oldid=prevVasha77: /* Some notes on punctuation */ added example2018-11-17T11:35:22Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Some notes on punctuation: </span> added example</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* When a list of items ends with the last item preceded by "and" (''y'' or ''e'') or "or" (''o'' or ''u''), there is no comma before the "and" or "or". However, if a list ends with ''etcétera'' or ''etc.'', there is a comma before it. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* When a list of items ends with the last item preceded by "and" (''y'' or ''e'') or "or" (''o'' or ''u''), there is no comma before the "and" or "or". However, if a list ends with ''etcétera'' or ''etc.'', there is a comma before it. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The DPD says nothing about dashes used as separators in titles, but apparently some magazines use them (more investigation is needed). For now, I suggest following the practice of the magazine SuperSonic and the AEFCFT website, namely an en-dash with spaces on either side. Example from SuperSonic: ''Entrevista – Sinécdoque: un nuevo sistema de suministro de literatura colaborativa''.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The DPD says nothing about dashes used as separators in titles, but apparently some magazines use them (more investigation is needed). For now, I suggest following the practice of the magazine SuperSonic and the AEFCFT website, namely an en-dash with spaces on either side. Example from SuperSonic: ''Entrevista – Sinécdoque: un nuevo sistema de suministro de literatura colaborativa''.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Titles are separated from subtitles by a colon (however, if the title ends with a question mark or exclamation point, there is no colon). The start of the subtitle is not capitalized. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Titles are separated from subtitles by a colon (however, if the title ends with a question mark or exclamation point, there is no colon). The start of the subtitle is not capitalized. </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The order of dates is day-month-year. When abbreviating a year to two digits, do not put an apostrophe in front of it (e.g. a 1994 convention could be referred to as "Barcelona 94").</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The order of dates is day-month-year. When abbreviating a year to two digits, do not put an apostrophe in front of it (e.g. a 1994 convention could be referred to as "Barcelona 94").</div></td></tr>
</table>Vasha77https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=535509&oldid=prevVasha77: /* Spanish */ some of the more notable punctuation rules from the OLE2018-11-17T03:08:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Spanish: </span> some of the more notable punctuation rules from the OLE</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Guidelines to follow if we decide to use Spanish punctuation (R&S discussion not yet finished). This is all taken from the [http://www.rae.es/recursos/diccionarios/dpd DPD]. By and large, punctuation is the same as English. Omitting some uncommon details and some matters that are probably not relevant to this database (such as the use of the period or how to punctuate dialogue), here is a list of differences from English:</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Question marks and exclamation points are paired, one upside-down at the start of the exclamation or question, the other right-side-up at the end. Sometimes the question or exclamation is only part of a sentence, so that one or both marks are within the sentence. Example: ''Mi primer Celsius ¿o era Sidrius?'' [My first Celsius, or was it Sidrius?] </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Quotation marks are angle quotes «». They are directly against the quoted content without a space between. When writing quotes within quotes, use "English" quotation marks “” and then, for a further level of nesting, single quotes &lsquo;&rsquo;. When a phrase in quotation marks is separated from another phrase by a comma, the comma is placed outside the quotation marks (the same is true for a colon or semicolon).</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* The ellipsis is three periods. It follows the preceding word with no space between. There is a space between the ellipis and a following word but no space before a following punctuation mark. When a sentence (or title) starts with an ellipsis, there is a space between the ellipsis and the first word.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* When a list of items ends with the last item preceded by "and" (''y'' or ''e'') or "or" (''o'' or ''u''), there is no comma before the "and" or "or". However, if a list ends with ''etcétera'' or ''etc.'', there is a comma before it. </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* When a pair of em-dashes is used to separate out an interruption in a sentence, the dashes are placed directly against the interrupting phrase but with spaces before and after, like so: Sentence —interrupting phrase— more sentence. </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* The DPD says nothing about dashes used as separators in titles, but apparently some magazines use them (more investigation is needed). For now, I suggest following the practice of the magazine SuperSonic and the AEFCFT website, namely an en-dash with spaces on either side. Example from SuperSonic: ''Entrevista – Sinécdoque: un nuevo sistema de suministro de literatura colaborativa''.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Titles are separated from subtitles by a colon (however, if the title ends with a question mark or exclamation point, there is no colon). The start of the subtitle is not capitalized. </ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Vasha77https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=535346&oldid=prevVasha77: /* Source of authority */2018-11-16T00:11:00Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Source of authority</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The reference for all matters orthographic in Spanish is the ''Ortografía de la lengua española'', a joint publication of the Royal Spanish Academy and academies in 22 other Spanish-speaking countries, last updated in 2010. It can be consulted online in the form of the 2005 ''[http://www.rae.es/recursos/diccionarios/dpd Diccionario panhispánico de dudas]'' and its 2010 [http://www.rae.es/sites/default/files/Principales_novedades_de_la_Ortografia_de_la_lengua_espanola.pdf orthographic update]. I suggest that since this source is authoritative, international, and easily consulted, we should use it; and furthermore we should follow it in every detail, including where it conflicts with English practices--when the title language is Spanish, the answer to all questions is in the OLE. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha (cazadora de tildes)]] 19:09, 15 November 2018 (EST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The reference for all matters orthographic <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(including punctuation) </ins>in Spanish is the ''Ortografía de la lengua española'', a joint publication of the Royal Spanish Academy and academies in 22 other Spanish-speaking countries, last updated in 2010. It can be consulted online in the form of the 2005 ''[http://www.rae.es/recursos/diccionarios/dpd Diccionario panhispánico de dudas]'' and its 2010 [http://www.rae.es/sites/default/files/Principales_novedades_de_la_Ortografia_de_la_lengua_espanola.pdf orthographic update]. I suggest that since this source is authoritative, international, and easily consulted, we should use it; and furthermore we should follow it in every detail, including where it conflicts with English practices--when the title language is Spanish, the answer to all questions is in the OLE. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha (cazadora de tildes)]] 19:09, 15 November 2018 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Vasha77https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=535345&oldid=prevVasha77: /* Spanish */2018-11-16T00:09:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Spanish</span></span></p>
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</table>Vasha77https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=535344&oldid=prevVasha77: /* Spanish */ source of authority2018-11-16T00:09:32Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Spanish: </span> source of authority</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Sentence case. Do we have special cases besides proper nouns? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:43, 2 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Sentence case. Do we have special cases besides proper nouns? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:43, 2 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Actually, titles of books and stories use sentence case, BUT titles of magazines and newspapers capitalize all "principal words" (plus the first and last words) {{unsigned|Vasha77}} 04:21, November 2, 2018 </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Actually, titles of books and stories use sentence case, BUT titles of magazines and newspapers capitalize all "principal words" (plus the first and last words) {{unsigned|Vasha77}} 04:21, November 2, 2018 </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: Don't forget that what we have now is miniscule compared to what we may have. If we want to do it properly, we will need to basically flag everything that has a capital in a later position and just do a bulk ignore on the ones that are fine. This way problems can be caught later on without touching the report. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:10, 2 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: Don't forget that what we have now is miniscule compared to what we may have. If we want to do it properly, we will need to basically flag everything that has a capital in a later position and just do a bulk ignore on the ones that are fine. This way problems can be caught later on without touching the report. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:10, 2 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The reference for all matters orthographic in Spanish is the ''Ortografía de la lengua española'', a joint publication of the Royal Spanish Academy and academies in 22 other Spanish-speaking countries, last updated in 2010. It can be consulted online in the form of the 2005 ''[http://www.rae.es/recursos/diccionarios/dpd Diccionario panhispánico de dudas]'' and its 2010 [http://www.rae.es/sites/default/files/Principales_novedades_de_la_Ortografia_de_la_lengua_espanola.pdf orthographic update]. I suggest that since this source is authoritative, international, and easily consulted, we should use it; and furthermore we should follow it in every detail, including where it conflicts with English practices--when the title language is Spanish, the answer to all questions is in the OLE. </ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Some non-proper nouns are important enough to be capitalized; the details of exactly which are lengthy and mostly not relevant to this database (one existing example is ''La Constitución de Marte'' (''The Constitution of Mars'' by Kim Stanley Robinson). In general, when you're copying a printed Spanish title, if one word is capitalized in an otherwise lowercase title, assume there's a reason and leave it be. If it's a two-word title and both words are capitalized, and you aren't sure whether that's right or not, ask for assistance. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha (cazadora de tildes)]] 13:22, 2 November 2018 (EDT)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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</table>Vasha77https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Title_Regularization&diff=535332&oldid=prevMagicUnk: /* Dutch */2018-11-15T22:39:36Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Dutch</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What about the titles of magazines and newspapers? --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha (cazadora de tildes)]] 09:40, 2 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What about the titles of magazines and newspapers? --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha (cazadora de tildes)]] 09:40, 2 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I did some further digging, checked some newspapers and magazines too, and came up with nothing but confirmation of the above. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 05:04, 3 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I did some further digging, checked some newspapers and magazines too, and came up with nothing but confirmation of the above. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 05:04, 3 November 2018 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::: After re-reading your question I realized my answer may not have addressed your actual question. Names of magazines and newspapers are written exactly as spelled on the magazines and newspapers. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] 17:39, 15 November 2018 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==== Dutch text subtitles ====</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Two references found so far ([https://taaladvies.net/taal/advies/tekst/87/literatuurlijsten_algemeen/ taaladvies], and [https://books.google.be/books?id=Y5y9BS_p-nwC&pg=PA259&lpg=PA259&dq=ondertitel+hoofdletter&source=bl&ots=taI6l36WKx&sig=hKVQUeE8ZfBQTWcpdNT_iln0jhk&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiS9oqJuNfeAhVDmbQKHdfRA7E4ChDoATAFegQIBBAB#v=onepage&q=ondertitel%20hoofdletter&f=false Helder rapporteren]) that confirm a subtitle ('ondertitel') is separated from the title by a colon, and have only the first word capitalized.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">From [https://taaladvies.net/taal/advies/tekst/87/literatuurlijsten_algemeen/ taaladvies.net] (translated):</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Keep punctuation marks in the title. If there is no punctuation between the title and the subtitle, use a colon.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Use only a capital letter for the first word of the title and for proper names. The subtitle also gets a capital letter.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Russian ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Russian ==</div></td></tr>
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