Talk:Publishers Project

Project Organization

Preliminaries

Before getting into discussions on any of the numerous topics we will no doubt be dealing with I would like to raise the meta-topic of how and where we hold discussions and document things. Some principles:

1. Organization is helpful. The page is for documentation, the talk is for discussion, which generally starts with a question. The response ends up in the documentation.
2. History is important. Don't delete anything, but let the history page work for us.
3. Things change. We need to be flexible as new material accrues and our understanding changes. So stuff can get moved and re-organized.

My suggestions:

• For the main page, sections on Purpose, History, Problem Statement and Analysis headings, with future places for Solution Statement and Implementation Plan.
• For the talk page, we will want to segment the discussion under various headings with topics generated as for User Talk pages under headings. (The downside is losing the use of "+" to start new topics, unless we get something else to work.)

Anniemod wouldn't say so here, but thinks the linear chronological model would be better. I don't disagree especially if it helps generate discussion. I'm willing to wait and see if there actually are any entries and deal with organization/archiving/referencing when there's enough to warrant it (see point 3). ../Doug H 22:56, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

I am just fine saying it here - just did not want to mess up your organization. I am just not sure I feel comfortable messing up a structured page with comments - not how our Wiki tends to work in my experience and when I see a structured page, i do not think "discussion page", I think "Project/User page". As I said - if that's how you want to organize, that's fine - but I expect that you will end up shifting a lot of topics from the bottom of the page to where you want them to go - I am a lot more likely to use the + sign if I have a new topic to post than try to figure out where it fits on the page. :) Annie 23:39, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

My guess is that 'resolved' questions/discussions will end up getting moved to an archive sub-page to keep relevant discussions. That would also allow for references to the discussions (on the project page) to be stable. Of course that assumes we get more than a few discussions. ../Doug H 08:30, 4 November 2021 (EDT)

Purpose

Some Reading Material

• The most recent conversations that rebooted this project: Help - Publisher, raising the topic and initiating the project.
• The earlier incarnation was documented and discussed in a root-level set of wiki pages, with several wiki categories containing the results (see Category:Publishing entities for root).