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*[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38641 Op Weg naar de Wereld van Morgen] - a Dutch publication series containing an omnibus.
 
*[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?38641 Op Weg naar de Wereld van Morgen] - a Dutch publication series containing an omnibus.
 
: Probably my mistake. It should have been a publication series. Corrected now, and no longer cluttering the Jules Verne biblio page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:35, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
 
: Probably my mistake. It should have been a publication series. Corrected now, and no longer cluttering the Jules Verne biblio page. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:35, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
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:: reference removed from the main page. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 10:53, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
  
 
==Voyages extraordinaires==
 
==Voyages extraordinaires==
 
I.m.o. ''Voyages extraordinaires'' should be a publication series, as should be the Dutch translations published by Elsevier (under the title ''Jules Verne Wonderreizen'') and maybe others. Most of the novels have no connecting setting or personages. B.t.w., should the discussions be moved to the discussion page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:32, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
 
I.m.o. ''Voyages extraordinaires'' should be a publication series, as should be the Dutch translations published by Elsevier (under the title ''Jules Verne Wonderreizen'') and maybe others. Most of the novels have no connecting setting or personages. B.t.w., should the discussions be moved to the discussion page? --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 15:32, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:Move made. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 10:45, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
 
:Move made. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 10:45, 28 June 2020 (EDT)

Revision as of 10:53, 28 June 2020

This page is intended to be used to discuss points raised on the main page. As new information and arguments comes to light, amendments will be made to the main page.

A first commentary

"A Publication series is a group of publications marked out by the Publisher in some way." (from the various NewPub help texts). So it seems that for example Voyages extraordinaires can only be a pub. series if it is used by the publisher(s) on or in the various publications.

In addition, this series seems to describe a certain idea of special voyages which would make it a title series: if so, it is the question if for example Baltimore Gun Club shouldn't be a sub-series of it.

If on the other hand Voyages extraordinaires is exclusively used by (for example) Hetzel it should in fact be only established as a pub. series for this publisher. Plus: Voyages extraordinaires is an idea that would describe many more texts of speculative fition. Christian Stonecreek 01:12, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

A response:
  • Voyages extraordinaires is used used on, in and about the various French language publications by Hetzel, it's subsequent owner Hachette and it's later imprint Le Livre de Poche. I can find no reference to it, or the English equivalent in any English translation, other than in ESSAY level material.
  • The NewPub help texts contain a reference to the second quotation I provided. What I hadn't included was "A Publication Series is a series of publications. This is what distinguishes Publication Series from regular Series, which link titles.".
  • The use of sub-series is something I hadn't considered.
  • Exclusivity of the use of a series by a single publisher is not a criteria for a publication series. I expect that there are many title series that are only used by one publisher (e.g. Aliena).
  • Voyages extraordinaires is printed in the publications and so, while the concept may be widely used, the claim to using that series name goes to the Jules Verne works. Also, the stories go together not because of what they have in common, but in what they don't have in common - they are each a piece of a mosaic, totally separate, but in conjunction form a single picture.
../Doug H 10:48, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

Op Weg naar de Wereld van Morgen

Probably my mistake. It should have been a publication series. Corrected now, and no longer cluttering the Jules Verne biblio page. --Willem 15:35, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
reference removed from the main page. ../Doug H 10:53, 28 June 2020 (EDT)

Voyages extraordinaires

I.m.o. Voyages extraordinaires should be a publication series, as should be the Dutch translations published by Elsevier (under the title Jules Verne Wonderreizen) and maybe others. Most of the novels have no connecting setting or personages. B.t.w., should the discussions be moved to the discussion page? --Willem 15:32, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

Move made. ../Doug H 10:45, 28 June 2020 (EDT)