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==Listing as publisher== | ==Listing as publisher== | ||
| − | When we enter as a publication of a work an etext from Project Gutenberg, we list the publisher as "Project Gutenberg", considering that such an etext forms a new and separate edition of the work. | + | When we enter as a publication of a work an etext from Project Gutenberg, we list the publisher as "Project Gutenberg", considering that such an etext forms a new and separate edition of the work. |
==Etext number== | ==Etext number== | ||
| − | All Project Gutenberg works are identified by an "etext number" which is a persistent identifier. Moreover, given the etext number, a canonical URL can be automatically generated (for etext nnnnn it is "http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/nnnn"). Please enter this in the "Catalog ID" field. Enter a work with etext number 12345 as "#12345" (just an example) without including the label "etext". | + | All Project Gutenberg works are identified by an "etext number" which is a persistent identifier. Moreover, given the etext number, a canonical URL can be automatically generated (for etext nnnnn it is "http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/nnnn"). Please enter this in the "Catalog ID" field. Enter a work with etext number 12345 as "#12345" (just an example) without including the label "etext". |
==Separate publication== | ==Separate publication== | ||
| − | In many cases, particularly for SF, Project Gutenberg publishes an individual work of short fiction as a separate etext, often scanned from the original magazine version. Please enter these publications as chapterbooks. | + | In many cases, particularly for SF, Project Gutenberg publishes an individual work of short fiction as a separate etext, often scanned from the original magazine version. Please enter these publications as chapterbooks. |
==Price field== | ==Price field== | ||
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==Binding field== | ==Binding field== | ||
| − | Please enter the binding as "ebook" | + | Please enter the binding as "ebook". |
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==Formats== | ==Formats== | ||
| − | Project Gutenberg etexts are always made available in a pure ASCII format. Frequently other formats, such as HTML, Plucker, and the like are also available for a given text. Please include an entry in the notes field documenting the formats available for a given etext. For example: "This ebook is available in ASCII and HTML formats". | + | Project Gutenberg etexts are always made available in a pure ASCII format. Frequently other formats, such as HTML, Plucker, and the like are also available for a given text. Please include an entry in the notes field documenting the formats available for a given etext. For example: "This ebook is available in ASCII and HTML formats". |
==Link== | ==Link== | ||
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<code><nowiki>This ebook edition is available in HTML, ASCII, and iso-8859-1 formats as <a HREF="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20836">Ebook #20836</a>.</nowiki></code> | <code><nowiki>This ebook edition is available in HTML, ASCII, and iso-8859-1 formats as <a HREF="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20836">Ebook #20836</a>.</nowiki></code> | ||
| − | The link should, as in the example, go to the root page for the etext, rather than to any of the actual texts. The root page is always at an address like <nowiki>"http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/nnnn"</nowiki>, where "nnnn" is the etext number. The root page lists and links to the available formats and compression methods, and gives metadata for the text. | + | The link should, as in the example, go to the root page for the etext, rather than to any of the actual texts. The root page is always at an address like <nowiki>"http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/nnnn"</nowiki>, where "nnnn" is the etext number. The root page lists and links to the available formats and compression methods, and gives metadata for the text. |
==Data for other editions== | ==Data for other editions== | ||
The more recent Project Gutenberg editions of texts, particularly in the HTML formats, often include the copyright page of the source edition (the edition from which the text was transcribed). (This is more often the case when the source text was a book and not an excerpt from a magazine. It is also more common in more recent PG editions.) Also, in some cases, advertisements for other works by the same publisher are reproduced. Both of these sources may be drawn on to enter publications from the time of the source text. Such texts are often old enough that comparatively few ISFDB editors have copies. Library records, such as Worldcat/OCLC, rarely give original price information for long out-of-print volumes, while advertisements almost always do provide price data. | The more recent Project Gutenberg editions of texts, particularly in the HTML formats, often include the copyright page of the source edition (the edition from which the text was transcribed). (This is more often the case when the source text was a book and not an excerpt from a magazine. It is also more common in more recent PG editions.) Also, in some cases, advertisements for other works by the same publisher are reproduced. Both of these sources may be drawn on to enter publications from the time of the source text. Such texts are often old enough that comparatively few ISFDB editors have copies. Library records, such as Worldcat/OCLC, rarely give original price information for long out-of-print volumes, while advertisements almost always do provide price data. | ||
Revision as of 13:13, 16 August 2008
This page is for noting Bibliographic and other issues with works published by Project Gutenberg.
Please use the talk page to discuss procedures, while this page documents currently accepted or recommended procedures.
Project Gutenberg's Wikipedia article.
Listing as publisher
When we enter as a publication of a work an etext from Project Gutenberg, we list the publisher as "Project Gutenberg", considering that such an etext forms a new and separate edition of the work.
Etext number
All Project Gutenberg works are identified by an "etext number" which is a persistent identifier. Moreover, given the etext number, a canonical URL can be automatically generated (for etext nnnnn it is "http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/nnnn"). Please enter this in the "Catalog ID" field. Enter a work with etext number 12345 as "#12345" (just an example) without including the label "etext".
Separate publication
In many cases, particularly for SF, Project Gutenberg publishes an individual work of short fiction as a separate etext, often scanned from the original magazine version. Please enter these publications as chapterbooks.
Price field
Please enter 0 for the price. There is discussion on going as to whether to use a currency symbol (as "$0.00" or "L0.00") or not, see the talk page for the discussion.
Tags
As discussed in Tags for Gutenberg titles, User:Swfritter, User:DESiegel60 and some others have been adding user tags to titles which exist in Project Gutenberg editions. This effort is using only 26 distinct tags: all PG pubs by authors whose last name begins with A get the tag "pga", all PG pubs by authors whose last name begins with B get the tag "pgb", and so on. This is in effect a hack to provide a search by publisher/author for PG titles only.
Pages fields
In most cases, the page number fields and all fields for page count of the work are left blank for Project Gutenberg publications.
Placeholders
It has been suggested that for an ebook collection or anthology "placeholder" page numbers of 1, 2, 3... be entered to preserve the order of the contents, but there is not yet any consensus on this. Other users have suggested using "10, 20, 30..." instead, to allow for possible later insertions. Some users are now entering such "placeholders", when, and only when, it seems to them that the order of the items in a work is significant to the overall effect of the work.
Discussion on whether, and if so how, to make this a common practice is in progress.
Actual page numbers
In some cases, the HTML version of a project Gutenberg text includes indications of page numbers, normally matching those in the source text fairly closely. (The practice seems to be becoming more common in recent PG editions.) In such cases, please treat these just as if they were physical page numbers in a printed volume.
Binding field
Please enter the binding as "ebook".
Formats
Project Gutenberg etexts are always made available in a pure ASCII format. Frequently other formats, such as HTML, Plucker, and the like are also available for a given text. Please include an entry in the notes field documenting the formats available for a given etext. For example: "This ebook is available in ASCII and HTML formats".
Link
Please include a link to the actual Project Gutenberg edition in the notes field. For example:
This ebook edition is available in HTML, ASCII, and iso-8859-1 formats as <a HREF="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20836">Ebook #20836</a>.
The link should, as in the example, go to the root page for the etext, rather than to any of the actual texts. The root page is always at an address like "http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/nnnn", where "nnnn" is the etext number. The root page lists and links to the available formats and compression methods, and gives metadata for the text.
Data for other editions
The more recent Project Gutenberg editions of texts, particularly in the HTML formats, often include the copyright page of the source edition (the edition from which the text was transcribed). (This is more often the case when the source text was a book and not an excerpt from a magazine. It is also more common in more recent PG editions.) Also, in some cases, advertisements for other works by the same publisher are reproduced. Both of these sources may be drawn on to enter publications from the time of the source text. Such texts are often old enough that comparatively few ISFDB editors have copies. Library records, such as Worldcat/OCLC, rarely give original price information for long out-of-print volumes, while advertisements almost always do provide price data.