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Spectrum 3

Cover artist for this anthology is Paul Lehr, the original art with signature can be seen at Horzel 20:44, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I added the credit and a note, and invformed the other active verifiers. --Willem 20:47, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Star Trek 2

Just picked up an 18th printing of [this] which has all the dates for the previous printings. Updated the record with note. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! --Willem 20:51, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Star Trek 6

Dated [this] from the 9th printing, with note. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:00, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

And [Star Trek 7] from the 8th printing. --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC) And [Star Trek 9] from the 7th printing. --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:03, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

And thanks again! --Willem 20:51, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Soft as Steel the Art of Julie Bell

I've imported the content into Soft as Steel Susan O'Fearna 23:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I added pagenumbers and deleted the titles not in this pub. --Willem 18:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

De wereld zonder mannen

Hi, I may have found the cover artist for De wereld zonder mannen. According to it is Rein van Looy.--Dirk P Broer 00:34, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

According to RKD (Rijksburo voor Kunsthistorische Documentatie) his monogram was VL. Nice find. Thanks, --Willem 20:01, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Maps for Felicity Savage's 'Garden of Salt' series

I've created records for the uncredited maps that appear in Humility Garden and Delta City. You may wish to import them if they also appear in your editions. Cheers. PeteYoung 04:09, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Imported. Thanks! --Willem 19:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

The Shadow of the Gloom-World

Cover artist of this is given as Bob Folk. I'm quite convinced this is a variant of Bob Fowke. Horzel 12:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Might be, but the credit in the book is to Bob Folk, and there's no signature visible. --Willem 19:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

A Plague of Demons

Shouldn't the page count for A Plague of Demons be 170? It's just that the last page does not have a number. --AndyjMo 18:37, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Of course. I must have missed this. Corrected now. Thanks! --Willem 19:52, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Planet Run

This link here shows that Paul Lehr was the cover artist for Planet Run. --AndyjMo 22:20, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Jane Frank agrees. Credit and note adeded. Thanks! --Willem 20:11, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

[A]The Graveyard Heart

Hi. Sorry for the form letter. I'm doing a shotgun to several moderators/primary verifiers. See this submission. I believe the edit is correct and the existing title is a typo, but with so many verifiers and publications, I'm looking for a few primary confirmations. Thanks. --MartyD 02:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Must have been a bad edit at title level. The [A] is nowhere in any of my editions. Thanks! --Willem 20:21, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Retief of the CDT

This link here shows that the Cover Artist for Retief of the CDT is Carlos Ochagavia. Additional proof is that on the bottom right of the Front Cover of my copy there is the signature C.O.. I got the link from the Canadian record for Retief's War. --AndyjMo 22:12, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I see the credit is already added. --Willem 20:10, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Comparison needed

Hello, Can you compare an essay in two of the publications you had verified: Quest of the Gypsy and Weird Heroes, Volume 1. Both have an essay called "Introduction (Quest of the Gypsy) • essay by Byron Preiss" (page [5] in the first and page 18 on the latter). Can you check if it is the same text or if they are indeed different? If you do not have an easy access to the books, I am also pinging the the other still active verifier on both books as well. Thanks! Anniemod 00:59, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

The essays are different, so I added a note not to merge them. This brings up the question if Weird Heroes should still be a title series or better a publication series. I'll start a discussion on the rules and standards page. --Willem 20:14, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


I'd like to make a few changes to our verified pub Ackermanthology: 65 Astonishing, Rediscovered Sci-Fi Shorts.

  • We should include the title's exclamation mark in the pub record.
  • It's well-known that Forry was often very particular about dropping the period after the "J" in his name. This is covered in point 4 under Authors in the New Pub Help: "However, when it is clearly the author's choice to omit the period, or when the author has a single letter name that is not an initial (e.g. "Harry S Truman") the period should be omitted." I'd like to remove it for this title and publication, as it was clearly his intention here that his name appeared this way.
  • John Landis's Foreword contains "Millennium Edition" in the title, which is not correct for this 1997 edition.

What do you think? I'm a verifier (the only living one) of the Millennium Edition, but I'd like to deal with this pub as well for consistency. Cheers. PeteYoung 11:12, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

I agree with the title changes. The name change however is a different can of worms. Shouldn't the canonical name then be changed? I checked a number of his publications, and most have the "J" without the period. As long as the canonical name has the period, I would be against removing it. --Willem 20:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Gentlemen, looks like you are in agreement about adding ! in the pub title (so that the title and the pub can match and the title to disappear from the mismatch report? If so - can someone please submit the change?:) Anniemod 23:26, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Domnei / The Music from Behind the Moon

I'm proposing converting two James Branch Cabell titles from collections to omnibus, including your verified copy of Domnei / The Music from Behind the Moon. I've started a discussion here to get the opinions of the verifiers. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 17:21, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Responder there. --Willem 20:09, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Retief at Large

At the bottom of the copyright page of my copy of Retief at Large it says "First Ace Printing: August 1978". --AndyjMo 18:56, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

You're right. I changed the note, and informed the other verifiers. Thanks! --Willem 20:04, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

3 To The Highest Power

Cover artist for this is Hector Garrido according to Alas, no signature. Horzel 20:19, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

You're All Alone

In You're All Alone the Contents Page lists the novel as YOUR'RE ALL ALONE whereas the Copyright page lists it as You're All Alone (the correct spelling). --AndyjMo 17:38, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

No it doesn't. It's "You're All Alone" everywhere. Are you sure you have the same edition? --Willem 20:35, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Interesting. I've got the 1972 Ace Books edition, price 95c, Catalog ID 95146, with an identical Front Cover. Copyright page has an ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS section giving publishing details of the 3 stories. On the facing page is CONTENTS with the first story titled YOUR'RE ALL ALONE (with the extra R). Should I add a note saying that some prints have a misspelling in the Contents? --AndyjMo 15:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Ace sometimes reprinted books with the same price and catalog number. The only difference is then in the advertising. Mine has ad 33A on page 192. --Willem 21:24, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
My copy has ad 33 on unnumbered page 192. So, should I create a new record? --AndyjMo 22:24, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
33 probably came before 33A. I'll clone it, move my verification and put a note on the other verifiers talkpages. Thanks! --Willem 19:21, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Yep, the ad #s were always progressive. My copy is the later printing as well. Have moved PV and added a note to the original printing. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:57, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Nicolaas Was ...

In your verified Spiegels en Rook, Nicolaas Was ... is listed as shortfiction. However, it is given as a translation of Nicholas Was ... which is a poem. Is the shortfiction title type correct? If it was translated into a prose, could you please add a note and also ignore it on this report? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:39, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

My mistake. Corrected now. Thanks! --Willem 19:30, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

The Art of Dave Seeley

I imported the content of the U.S. version into your verified pub. Bob 00:06, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! --Willem 21:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Papé's illustrations for Jurgen

I've added added individual titles for the endpapers and plates in the illustrated edition of Jurgen. I've also imported these into my printing of the Dover edition where I found the plates to be at the same location. I've also left the existing general title record in place for the general decorations. You may want to import the additional titles from my copy into your verified copy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:36, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! The illustrations are now imported. --Willem 20:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)


Hi, in checking through my copy of Wonderworks, I notice that the Whelan essay on p.13 is titled "Foreword" on its title page, not "Foreword by the Artist" as in the ToC. As one of the other three verifiers, could you check your copy to see if it's that way as well. If all four are the same the title could be changed at the title level and avoid removing, deleting and varianting. I've got the ok from my copy's prime verifier. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:18, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

My copy also has the title as "Foreword" on the titlepage. --Willem 20:52, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Willem. I will change it after I hear back from the verifier of the fourth pub. Doug / Vornoff 03:34, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Lancelot Biggs

I would like to suggest a publication date of 2000-00-00 for this pub based on a review in Science Fiction Chronicle, October 2001, which gives the same publisher, price and ISBN. The review only gives the year 2000. Doug H 16:24, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Sounds logical, and fits with the ISBN (the numbers around 58715-154 were also published in 2000). Date and note added. Thanks! --Willem 21:52, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Isle of the Dead

J. H. Breslow's "JHB" signature can be found on the arrow bag of the background guy on this Ace cover. Thanks. Horzel 23:13, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! --Willem 21:25, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Bermtoeristen, cover art by 'Studio Bruna'

Hi, I just came across Bermtoeristen, where the cover art is credited to Studio Bruna. I think that they are only responsible for the design of the cover page though, as this is a clear Peter Elson cover to me.--Dirk P Broer 00:53, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Credit changed and note added. --Willem 20:49, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

28 SF Stories by HG Wells

With two complete novels among the contents, shouldn't [this] be an omnibus?? Of the other editions there's only one moderately active editor. Merry X-mas and behave at New Years! ;-))) [or not] --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:23, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I think this falls in the same category as Heinlein's The Past Through Tomorrow, which is mentioned in the help text as an example of a work that "should be categorized as a collection". I don't think we should change it. A very good 2017 and happy book hunting! --Willem 21:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Dec

The following are possible typos in your verified pubs:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:27, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

All are typo's, except for "millenium" and "occurance". Corrected now. Thanks! --Willem 20:23, 15 January 2017 (UTC)


In Limits the novelette The Locusts is attributed to Steve Barnes and not Steven Barnes. --AndyjMo 21:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Already corrected I see. Thanks! --Willem 20:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The Flight of the Horse

In The Flight of the Horse the Short Story Leviathan! is listed in the Contents without the exclamation mark. The Title at the front of the actual story does have the exclamation mark. --AndyjMo 16:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

The title page is leading. I added a note about the discrepancy. Thanks, --Willem 20:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The Door Into Summer

Not a change to your verified pub per se, but I've been going through many pubs of The Door Into Summer and capitalising the "into" to "Into". Thanks. PeteYoung 02:39, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! --Willem 20:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Cover artist check


Can you check if the cover artist in King Kong Blues: Een SF Komedie and Het Menselijk Monster is indeed different? The style looks similar and the difference in the name is just one letter - so thought I should ask. Thanks! Annie 23:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Just came across another coincidence for the two (George and Gearge): they both sign as by 'GE'.--Dirk P Broer 10:51, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Definitely the same artist, who signs as 'EG'. Unfortunately his/her name is unknown. I varianted both titles to a new author, 'E. G.' Thanks! --Willem 20:49, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Not Too Narrow ...

Notes for [this] say it's not in Tuck, but it is on page 377, unfortunately no price or date ... --~ Bill, Bluesman 21:27, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I adapted the notes. --Willem 21:21, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Hogarth Russell Moradabat vs Leendert Stofbergen

Hi, In your verified copy of Reizigers in de Anti-Tijd: Een Poging tot Verkenning, tot Lijfsbehoud you cite Hogarth Russell Moradabat as cover artist. Hogarth Russell Moradabat so far has eluded me in finding anything on him in terms of date or place of birth and/or death. SFANpedia however claims Hogarth Russell Moradabat as cover designer and names Leendert Stofbergen for the actual illustration. Problem is De Boekenplank has it just the other way around. Can you please check? --Dirk P Broer 21:51, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

The publication credits Leendert Stofbergen for the design, and Hogarth Russell Moradabat for the photograph. I can't find anything about him either. Might be a pseudonym? --Willem 21:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

'New' non-fiction

Ran across [this] in Tuck and added it to the db. You probably know it? but just in case ... Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:38, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

I even own a copy (of a copy). Uploaded a scan, and if I ever begin with my reference library .... Thanks! --Willem 21:46, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Xiao Chen Fu vs. Xiaochen Fu

As you have verified the publications containing the artwork by Xiao Chen Fu and Xiaochen Fu, would you mind double checking the artwork against this site and this site? If they match, then I believe Xiaochen Fu should be the canonical name and a pseudonym established. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:45, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they're the same artist. Pseudonym and variants made. Thanks! --Willem 21:01, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Josh Kirby Pubs

I'm going to add the contents to two Kirby art books, In the Garden of Earthly Delights and A Cosmic Cornucopia that you verified, unless you object. I've already uploaded cover scans for the two. Bob 18:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

As always no problem. Thanks for doing this! --Willem 21:01, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Door de Wereldruimte - Henk Groef

Hi, In the notes of your verified copy of Door de Wereldruimte you state "Author as Ad Timmers on the front cover, as Henk Groef on the title page. One is probably a pseudonym of the other." While searching the internet I found that at least amongst secondhand booksellers in the Netherlands ( the cover artist is thought to be be Ad Timmers and Henk Groef the author. Both persons remain elusive identities though.--Dirk P Broer 00:34, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

That makes sense (more sense than the pseudonym notion) if what looks like the author's name on the frontcover is actually the signature of the artist. I corrected the credit and notes. Thanks! --Willem 20:53, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Who Killed Science Fiction?

Shouldn’t this book be a variant of this book? And shouldn’t your copy’s cover be varianted to this one as shown here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MLB (talkcontribs) .

Already answered by Hervé. --Willem 20:43, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

The Josh Kirby Poster Book

I'm adding content to your verified pub The Josh Kirby Poster Book. I've also uploaded a scan of the cover. Bob 22:03, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! --Willem 20:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Terraforming Earth

Hello, I've got a hc of Terraforming Earth that, contrary to your PVed copy has stated "first edition" with full numberline. Can you check your copy and see if it may be a second printing or a BCE (this one?)? Thomcomstock 15:02 6 February 2017 UTC

Interesting. I had been wondering about this one. I probably have a BCE with the dustjacket of the first printing (no book club number, original price on frontflap and in the bar code box). I removed my verification for you to take over, and asked Nihonjoe (verifier of the BCE) to take a look here. Thanks, --Willem 21:24, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Mine has exactly what's stated here. There is no price information anywhere on the cover or number line on the copyright page. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Macaber Carnaval

Hi Willem, the cover art of this was previously published as illustration in Echoes of Terror (1980) as can be seen in this blog. So the cover artist is not Marius van Leeuwen. I haven't discovered yet who is (Les Edwards?) . Horzel 12:41, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

You are right. The credit was for cover design. Corrected now. Thanks, --Willem 09:14, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! Glad you're back! Horzel 08:38, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Van Lichtelijk Luguber tot Meedogenloos Macaber

The cover artist of this is also not Marius van Leeuwen. Apparently the cover art (by Terry Oakes) was used as an illustration in The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania, but I don't have a copy of that. Horzel 12:56, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Correct. The illustration is on page 7. Corrected the pub and added notes. Thanks! --Willem 09:22, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

De Onbegrensde Kerker

Hi, your suspected cover artist (Eddie Jones) gets confirmed here (second from below). The named German magazine is not yet in our database, but can be found here: cover Terra Astra #187 Terra Astra series #100-#199.--Dirk P Broer 00:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Credit and note added. --Willem 09:34, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Knightsbridge: The Art of Keith Parkinson

Just to let you know, I'll be entering the content for another art book you verified. Bob 19:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! --Willem 09:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

A Blink of the Screen"

Hi, One person verified Terry Pratchett's "The High Meggas" in The Long Earth as a short story; in your verified record for A Blink of the Screen you have it as a novelette. Could you recheck that, and figure out which one it is? Also, please check the date of "Rincemangle, the Gnome of Even Moor"; I think it should be 1973. Thanks! --Vasha 20:35, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

A rough word count comes to 7900 words, so novelette it is and should stay so. I'll reming Pete Young of your note. --Willem 19:42, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Great Space Battles


I had been fixing the variants for all the pictures in your verified Great Space Battles and all of them lined up except for the 3 by Peter Elson for "The Pirate World". In your publication they are called "The Pirate World", "The Pirate World [3]"(page 84) and "The Pirate World [4]"(page 86) respectively. In another version of that publication, the numbering is done as "The Pirate World", "The Pirate World [2]"(page 84) and "The Pirate World [3]"(page 86) (adding a number only if the artist is the same - see here for example: Great Space Battles. As a result your The Pirate World [3] is actually The Pirate World [2] there and your The Pirate World [4] is The Pirate World [3] there. The latter is not a problem because there is no [4] to tangle with in the other one (two variants under the same title will not harm anything) but the first causes issues as they are different pictures and need to be varianted under different images. So a few possible solutions:

  • Renumber the images in your publication to match the other one for these 2 pictures
  • Swap the pages of your [3] and [4] in your publication - the order will be broken if you look at the list but that will fix the wrong link (and your [4] will be varianted under the [2] of the other sequence where it belongs.
  • Split your [3] out from the other two, leave two "The Pirate World [3]" on the artist page with a note why not to merge

Do you have any preference on which one gets implemented? I favor any of the first two solutions but if you prefer the third one, we can do that as well. I will also ask the other PV on this work to come post his opinion. Annie 19:41, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

From the helptext: Artwork. Interior art should have the same title as the fiction or essay it is associated with. If it is independent of other content, and has no apparent title or caption, give it the title of the publication in which it appears, disambiguating if necessary. [Note: occasionally a work may actually be titled "Untitled" which can correctly be given as the title of the work in the ISFDB record.] Cover art should have the same title as the title of the publication that it is associated with. Artwork on the back cover of a publication is treated as interior art. For works with multiple illustrations per story (usually a magazine or anthology) where the illustrations are not individually named, use the format "Story Title" for the first illustration, then "Story Title [2]", "Story Title [3]", and so on.
As I read this, the numbering in my edition is correct, and the others should be changed. --Willem 20:05, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

An author called "untitled"


Can you verify in your PV'd Testament: A Celebration of the Life & Art of Frank Frazetta that the author of "Huns" (page 154) is credited as "untitled"? If it is not, then this should really be "uncredited" instead :) Annie 19:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Already corrected by Bob I see. --Willem 20:07, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

"The Eros Passage" in New Dimensions 11

Contento lists "The Eros Passage" by Scott Sanders as a novelette, but I'm not sure that's right; reprinted in the recent collection Dancing in Dreamtime, it's only 6000-odd words. Of course this might be a revised version. So could you take a look at New Dimensions 11 (which you verified) and try to figure out how long it is there? --Vasha 02:14, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

A rough word count (20,5 pages, 43 lines per page, 9 words per line) cones to 7900 words. If your version is so much shorter, it must be revised. --Willem 20:21, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Dueling Machine

Couple of questions: does the copyright page have a printed number line [like the DAW early editions did: spelled instead of numbers]? There may be initials on the artwork: two sets of horns, one left, one right. Lower/longer horn has nothing but squiggles on right side but looks like initials on the left side [DA???], maybe I'm hallucinating .... Notes say CDN printing, price does not reflect that; publisher just as Signet [no New American Library [of Canada]]. I have what appears to be a second printing [with spelled number line], rest is just being picky ..... ;-))) Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:47, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

There's no numberline. Only the statement "first printing, january, 1973"
Initials, could be. I started hallucinating after a long look....
Price and publisher are now corrected. Thanks! --Willem 20:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Dan Stond Mijn Lichaam Op en Wandelde Weg van Mij

HI, as you are the verifier of both collections that contain a story with this title, could you please compare Karla Madonna's Dan Stond Mijn Lichaam Op en Wandelde Weg van Mij with Eddy C. Bertin's Dan Stond Mijn Lichaam Op en Wandelde Weg van Mij?--Dirk P Broer 16:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Karla Madonna is verified here to be a pseudonym of Eddy C. Bertin.--Dirk P Broer 12:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
One of his many pseudonyms. Already corrected I see. Thanks, --Willem 20:48, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

The Wanderer

The signature of Bob Abbett appears to be visible in the lower right corner of this hi-res scan of the cover of this novel. Horzel 16:02, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Credit already added I see. Thanks, --Willem 19:25, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Typo in The Day the Leash Gave Way

I believe there may be a typo in this title in your verified publication --Vasha 17:34, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Corrected. Thanks! --Willem 19:28, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

The Bruce Pennington Portfolio

I added the content to this pub you verified. Bob 19:26, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! --Willem 19:29, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe

I filled in the content for another printing of your verified pub. I replaced the cover scan, but I'll leave to you whether you want to import the content. Bob 02:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Imported the contents. Thanks! --Willem 19:50, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Falkenberg's Legion vs Future History

Hi, As you are its first active verifier, I have a perhaps unusual request. I want to make Falkenberg's Legion -now registered as a novel- a variant title of the Omnibus Future History. Both books have on their copyright page Portions of this book were previously published as The Mercenary and West of Honor. Reginald3 considers the 1980 title a retitling of the later 1990 title (sic), SFE3 claims both are omnibuses, but mentions that Falkenberg's Legion contains added material. If that is the case, what is the added material? If it is two maps and a chronology they are in Future History too. Could you please take a look how this novel presents itself on the copyright page?--Dirk P Broer 10:22, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Meanwhile I've found this here, seemingly unaware of the existence of Future History:
Falkenberg's Legion (1990) Jerry Pournelle. Only one version under this title (Baen Books): 432 pages.
Prologue (pp. 1-12). Originally appeared as The Mercenary, prologue.
Part One, Ch. 1-2 (pp. 15-27): new.
Part One, Ch. 3 (pp. 28-37). Originally appeared as West of Honor, prologue.
Part One, Ch. 4-19 (pp. 38-202). Originally appeared as West of Honor, Ch. 1-16. (This may have appeared in magazine form in 1976?)
Part Two, Prologue (pp. 205-209): new.
Part Two, Ch. 1-4 (pp. 210-243). Originally appeared as "Peace With Honor", Analog 1971. Next appeared as The Mercenary, Ch. 1-4.
Part Two, Ch. 5-11 (pp. 244-334). Originally appeared as "The Mercenary", Analog 1972. Next appeared as The Mercenary, Ch. 5-11.
Part Two, Ch. 12-22 (pp. 335-432). Originally appeared as "Sword and Sceptre", Analog 1973. Next appeared as The Mercenary, Ch. 12-22.
Future History also has a prologue before part one (The Mercenary) on pages 15-24, and a prologue before part two (West of Honor) on pages 227-235.--Dirk P Broer 16:11, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
I don't think that's a good idea. Falkenberg's Legion is presented as a novel, and has the statement Portions of this book were previously published as The Mercenary and West of Honor. on the copyright page. Your edition of Future History hads the statement "This edition incorporating The Mercenary and West of Honor first published in Great Britain by Futura Publications Limited in 1980" (from the notes). I.m.h.o. this means Future History is a combined reprint (is omnibus) of the two novels as they were previously published (not in chronological order), while Falkenberg's Legion is rewritten with additional material (is novel). I don't think the rules allow for a novel to be a variant of an omnibus. --Willem 20:20, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Opinion on Bo Balder's primary language?

I.M thinking it's probably time to change Boukje Balder's canonical name to Bo Balder, agreed? But what I wanted to ask you was what you think her primary language is. She's been writing only in English for the last few years. I'll go along with whatever you say. --Vasha 06:15, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Agreed. The author herself wants it that way. Canonical name already changed I see. I'll have to ask Ahasuerus about the primary language thing. Thanks! --Willem 20:27, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
The primary language for Bo Balder is now English, for Boukje Balder it's Dutch. Looks like a good solution. --Willem 19:14, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

The Apocalypse Codex

Updated the Page Count for The Apocalypse Codex to show the unnumbered pages. --AndyjMo 17:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, --Willem 20:28, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Introductions in The Hugo Winners, Volume Two and More Stories from the Hugo Winners, Volume II

Cross-posted to Rudam. See Darkday's variant submissions in the moderator queue and his suggestion that the titles be consolidated instead of having the variants. --MartyD 10:33, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Already handled by Rudam I see. Thanks, --Willem 20:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Arlan Andrews, Sr.

I am changing the canonical name for Arlan Andrews, Sr.; this will affect some verified pubs of yours, such as issues of Locus. Vasha 16:07, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks, --Willem 20:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Richard M. Gordon

In your verified publication The Fiend in You, there's a story titled "A Punishment to Fit the Crimes", by Richard M. Gordon. In the 2016 anthology The Big Book of Jack the Ripper, Otto Penzler has that story credited to Richard A. Gordon a.k.a. Stuart Gordon. Do you think there's a chance that Penzler is correct, and the The Fiend in You has the author's name misprinted? To be sure, I don't think that's very likely, but it's worth considering because the database otherwise has little by Richard M. — one other story and no biographical information. Anything you can find out about the matter would be appreciated! --Vasha 00:56, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I think Penzler is wrong. A little research (The "Homeville" entry in the Locus index) led me to this page, where the other story we have in the db is listed. Richard M. Gordon was a mystery writer who published most of his work in Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine. I added the author data from this page. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --Willem 07:36, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Van Edgar Allan Poe tot Roald Dahl: De Vijftig Beste Griezel-Verhalen

In this verified publication, there is "Dag der Afrekening" ("The Day of Reckoning") by Patricia Highsmith. This story is nongenre and I'd like to remove it from the database -- is that OK with you? --Vasha 00:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't think it should be removed from the database, since it is contained in a genre publication. I marked the story non-genre for now. --Willem 19:15, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.

Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:

Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm not in the habit of reading everything to determine if it's genre or not, but I'm glad someone is. I have no objections to marking these as non-genre. --Willem 19:19, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Discussion has been moved to the Community Portal. --Vasha 00:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Daphne Du Maurier

Added note and non-genre mark to Daphne du Maurier's "Kiss Me Again, Stranger" in The Masque of the Red Death. --Vasha 01:15, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. --Willem 14:53, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow

I have the same edition of Timeless Stories as you do, and just noticed that Walter Van Tilburg Clark's name is misprinted as "Tillburg" at the head of the story (but nowhere else). Ugh, do we really have to make that into a variant? :-) Vasha 14:08, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, we make an exception to the "exactly as printed" rule if it's an obvious misspelling of the printer. Thanks for adding the note. --Willem 14:57, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

"Between Two Worlds / Messages Found in an Oxygen", by Terry Carr & Bob Shaw

Please see this talk thread about a pub that you are PV#2ed on. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:56, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Added my 2c. --Willem 14:53, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Thom Tenery

Thom Tenery (p162 & p280) and ThomTenery (p182) are both credited in Spectrum 20. Is the missing space a typo in the database? -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes it is. Corrected now, ThomTenery has disappeared. Thanks! --Willem 18:38, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Particle Theory

Please see User talk:Kraang#Particle Theory as I made a change to the title of one of the stories in your PV of Particle Theory plus updated the notes. --Marc Kupper|talk 17:46, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, --Willem 19:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Fontein Science Fiction

Hi, is there a reason for not varianting Fontein Science Fiction to Penguin Science Fiction, since all stories are in the translated edition? And include the elements of series "Fontein Science Fiction" in the series "Penguin Science Fiction" instead? Thanks. Horzel 20:52, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the reason is, that a title can only belong to one series. Variant to Penguin Science Fiction, and we loose Fontein Science Fiction. --Willem 19:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Karel Čapek in A Century of Great Short Science Fiction Novels

I'm in the process of correcting Karel Čapek's last name from Capek to Čapek. In nearly all cases we had his name incorrectly listed without the hachek over the C. I've gone ahead and changed the title record for The Absolute at Large which is included in your verified copy of A Century of Great Short Science Fiction Novels. Could you check your copy to see if how his name appears in the book. If it is Čapek, then nothing further needs to be done. Otherwise, we need to swap the title in your book for this one. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:52, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

It was as by Capek. Corrected now. Thanks, --Willem 19:40, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe


Do you mind checking your copy of Myth & Magic: The Art of John Howe and check if the two pictures on pages 38 and 39 ("Rhino Armour 1)" and "Rhino Armour 2)" really have a closing bracket but no opening ones? Thanks!Annie 20:49, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Already changed by Bob I see. The titles are now as they appear in the book. --Willem 16:01, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

Final Diagnosis

Can you check the Page Count for your verified Final Diagnosis. The record shows 320 pages, but my copy has 312 pages. Locus1 also states that there are 312 pages. --AndyjMo 13:45, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

You are right. Already corrected I see. --Willem 16:04, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

The Great Fetish

Hi, I finally found the artist of this, it's Roger Stine since the signature that can be seen on this Flickr scan is the same as the signature on Asimov's 1980-06 and as the signature in the lower left corner of this piece of art (, click on the magnifying glass), which are both attributed to Roger Stine. Thanks. Horzel 08:49, 29 June 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! I added the credit, adapted the notes and added the signature to the Artist Signature Images --Willem 16:19, 10 July 2017 (EDT).

Seventh Son

Please check the back cover of Seventh Son to see if there's a cover art credit for James C. Christensen. I have a 13th printing that credits Christensen on the back cover and Nolan on the copyright page. My copy has the Nolan artwork. Your copy has a die-cut cover with the Nolan artwork partially visible in the cutout. You open the cover to view the entire Nolan painting. If your copy credits Christensen on the back cover then he likely did the artwork that's on the outer cover. I suspect a fix would be to add a second cover title record sort of like a dos-a-dos. --Marc Kupper 06:45, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

Nothing to fix, no mention of Christensen anywhere. --~ Bill, Bluesman 12:06, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
That'll add to the pain then. An e-mail to Dennis Nolan bounced and so I've e-mailed his wife. Christensen died in January 2017 and it does not look like there's an easy way to contact someone who would know his career well. I also realized a better way to handle the credit on the die cut publications is to make the Nolan work an interior-art record and make it a variant title of the cover-art record. However, we first need to discover why Christensen is credited. --Marc Kupper 14:17, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

Day of Their Return/People of the Wind

Updated the record for [this]. Notes have the reasoning. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 11:58, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! --Willem 15:30, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Het Geheim van het Groene Licht: Richard Mason vs David Mason

Hi, I corrected the HTML for Het Geheim van het Groene Licht (you both begun and ended with 'ul' (while the last should be /ul), but why is the author given as Robert Mason (dutch) while you state in the notes "Author as 'David Masson' on the cover, as 'David Mason' on the titlepage."?--Dirk P Broer 07:58, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Looking at that cover it clearly says 'Richard Mason', not 'David Mason'...--Dirk P Broer 04:30, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
You're right. Corrected the notes. Thanks! --Willem 15:51, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Orbit 1

Hi, could you please check whether the cover of your verified Luitingh edition is indeed shown in The Alien World: The Complete Illustrated Guide and attributed to Edward Blair Wilkins? Thanks! Horzel 06:10, 3 July 2017 (EDT)

Good find! Added the credit and adapted the notes. Thanks! --Willem 16:01, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

The New Women of Wonder

Added roman-numeral introduction to the page numbers; moved external identifiers. --Vasha 12:32, 4 July 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! --Willem 16:04, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

'Salem's Lot in Knowing Darkness

John Picacio received a 2010 Chesley award nomination for an illustration titled "'Salem's Lot" that appeared in Knowing Darkness. I see that there are several illustrations for 'Salem's lot, in that book, none of which are by Picacio and only one of which the artist is not identified. Picacio's website has a scan of the image. Could you see if the illustration on page 26 is perhaps this one by Picacio? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:24, 9 July 2017 (EDT)

The illustration on page 26 is the cover of this publication. The Picacio illustration is on page 372. I added it to the contents. Can you add the nomination? --Willem 15:12, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
Certainly and with pleasure. Thanks for checking and adding the title. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:43, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

Another John Picacio question for you. You have the cover of Tepper's The Margarets listed as by Stephan Martiniere. However, the same cover is listed as by Picacio for this edition and it appears on his website. Perhaps it is miscredited in the hardcover edition? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:45, 9 July 2017 (EDT)

It certainly looks more like a Picacio illustration. I checked Martiniere's books, this painting is not in any of them (it's also not in Picacio's book). I changed the credit and added notes about the change. Thanks! --Willem 16:00, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

Pellucidar de Ongebreidelde

Cover artist of this is Enric(h), according to The cover of Nueva Dimension 58 shows the same swordsman, but not the girl.
(I know of one other cut-and-paste cover at Ridderhof, De Duivel Uitgedreven, where the henchman has been added to the picture (by Sebastia(n) Boada), see Flickr for more info.)

I don't think that's definite proof, but I added Enric as probable artist, and the link you provided, to the notes. Thanks --Willem 05:44, 16 July 2017 (EDT)

The Demons of the Upper Air

Hi. Bob and I would like your input on his talk page as verifiers of pubs that include the Leiber poems comprising "The Demons of the Upper Air". Hopefully the problem will be self-explanatory when you read our input there. Thanks. Doug / Vornoff 16:09, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

Added my 2c there. --Willem 05:50, 15 July 2017 (EDT)

Nick Fox = Nick Bantock

Hi Willem, I'd like your opinion on the following, because you're the one on ISFDB who owns the relevant sf art books.
I want to submit that Nick Fox is a pseudonym of Nick Bantock.
Three paintings that are credited to Nick Fox are shown on Nick Bantock's facebook page or more precisely here:
1) Lord Valentine's Castle (Gollancz cover now credited on ISFDB to Nick Bantock), the art is also in The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania (as endpaper art) where it is credited to Nick Fox.
2) Governor Elect of Synakkah Musfor, Brineclai Den (Starliners, 1980, interior art, the lobster-being)
3) The helmeted cat pilot which is even signed "Fox" (also in The Alien World, p92 (or see this tumblr page, but there the signature is removed).
I don't have a Facebook account, I just click a few times on "Niet nu". Do you agree that Nick Fox must be a pseudonym of Bantock? Thanks. Horzel 03:53, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

I agree with your reasoning. Most convincing are the illustrations signed as by Fox on Bantock's facebook page. I think there should be a note on the author page, explaining this. --Willem 14:58, 16 July 2017 (EDT)

The Tourist's Guide to Transylvania

I'd say this art book has 80 pages. Page 79 shows a whole page of art, and page 80 contains the acknowledgements. Both page 79 and 80 have no page number, but that's quite normal for full page art as well as for the last page of a book. Horzel 04:15, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

If you read this section of the help screen, it can't have 80 pages. I changed it to 78+[1], because the last illustration will be entered in the contents, but the acknowledgements will not. Explained page 79 in the notes. Thanks! --Willem 05:12, 16 July 2017 (EDT)

The Robot Brains

The Note field in your verified The Robot Brains says:

  • Publication date [1956] from Tuck; Reginald1 has 1958; Clute/Nicholls and OCLC 752662309 1956

According to "About the Author" in "Time for Murder: Macabre Crime Stories", the book was first published in 1957. It was revised in 2009 when it appeared as "Mission of the Brains". The copyright page of this 2017 reprint shows the copyright year as 1957.

I have updated the title record, but left your verified pub record "as is". Ahasuerus 19:21, 15 July 2017 (EDT)

Hello, as the record was in one of our cleanup reports, I've changed the date and modified the notes for your PVed (see also above). Hauck 03:11, 16 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks both of you. The book itself gives no publication date, so it's good to have some proof. --Willem 05:15, 16 July 2017 (EDT)

De tiran van Toy

Added note about the cover art of this publication. Horzel 07:42, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Thanks, --Willem 15:00, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

The Book of Sea Monsters

I imported the interior art record into your verified publication of The Book of Sea Monsters. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:12, 18 July 2017 (EDT)

Thanks, --Willem 15:01, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

Magic Mountain in Chelsey Awards Retrospective

Could I get you to double check the name of the artists of Magic Mountain in The Chesley Awards for Science Fiction and Fantasy Art: A Retrospective. The award listing in the isfadb credits the artists as "Butch & Susan Honeck" and I suspect that Susan's name is misspelled in our records. I've also noticed a general issue with the title records in this book. It appears that many of them have been entered with the date of composition rather than the date of first publication. The record for Magic Mountain is a good example of this. While the work was probably created and displayed in 1987, I doubt that it was published until it appeared in this collection in 2003. I've encountered many of these while working on our records for the Chelseys and I've corrected them as I've found them. There may be others that I haven't found. I'm leaving this same note on the other verifier's pages. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 18:17, 22 July 2017 (EDT)

Magic Mountain is already corrected by Bob I see. I agree about the dates, the should be set on the dat of first publication. --Willem 14:42, 29 July 2017 (EDT)

"Clown Flesh & Anemone" in Science Fiction Monthly, April 1975

Our SFE3 spies are reporting that the title of this story is "Clown Fish & Anemone" as opposed to "Clown Flesh & Anemone". Could you please double check your verified copy? TIA! Ahasuerus 10:41, 29 July 2017 (EDT)

FYI, the issue has been checked by Hauck, the other primary verifier, and the data has been corrected. Ahasuerus 10:54, 29 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks, that saves me some digging. --Willem 14:37, 29 July 2017 (EDT)

Alien Starswarm / Human's Burden

I added a second cover art record to Alien Starswarm / Human's Burden so I could have a record for each cover. I then varianted to the original cover art publication. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:09, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! --Willem 03:35, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

The Paradise Game

I am checking publications and noticed a discepancy with our listing of Brian W. Stableford's THE PARADISE GAME (DAW 111), of which you are a primary verifier. It is listed in our record as July 1974, but my copy says June 1974. Can you check your copy and let me know what yours says? I will not want to submit an altered record without your agreement. Thank you. Hifrommike65 1:56 (CDT)
My copy also states June 1974. I asked the other active verifiers, and the verifier of the Canadian edition to check their copies. After their response the date can be changed. Thanks! --Willem 04:05, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
No response from the other verifiers yet, so I changed the record. --Willem 14:34, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

Pure Fantasy

Hi, I have added a number of publication months on this series. [1]

I couldn't find anything after #18. Is that correct? If so, I could try to add them up to #28 from 2012 (the last item). Keesbs 15:37, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

One question, where do the publication months come from? Not from the publications themselves, and if the months are from another source, there should be a note explaining this. Your edits are probably valid, so I've put them on hold awaiting your answer. Feel free to add the other issues (including 18+). I do own a copy of these, but my time on the database is extremely limited these days, and entering these magazines is quite time consuming. Thanks, --Willem 15:59, 19 August 2017 (EDT)
I added them to my site [2] in the month they were published. And I've got the timestamps on the Photoshop-files from scanning. How would I put that in the notes? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keesbs (talkcontribs) .
I should have known. We do use your site as reference, but always add a credit in the notefield. I'll do it for your current submissions. On the database side we use HTML for linking to other sites, you can see it in the edit mode (take a look at the pub notes here. By the way, remember to sign your comments on the wiki with four tildes (~~~~), or use the signature icon above. --Willem 16:29, 19 August 2017 (EDT)
I gave permission for that somewhere in 2011. Since I am also active on and I am making larger and higher resolution scans, so I thought why not update them here too? (I'll try to remember the signature) Keesbs 16:50, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

Could you check out my submission of Pure Fantast #19? [[3]] Before I enter the others I like to know if I am doing this right. Keesbs 10:14, 22 August 2017 (EDT)

I'm on Terschelling at the moment, so no access to my collection. At first sight your submission looks good. Probably a few minor things, I'll take a better look when i'm back on friday or saturday. You created a few new authors, who will need a language attached, and at least one duplicate title (interior art title "Alex de Jong". --Willem 16:34, 22 August 2017 (EDT)

Patrizia Di Lucchio

In your verified Locus, #219 February 1979, the editorial is co-credited to Patrizia Di Lucchio. She is usually credited as Patrizia DiLucchio. Would you mind double checking if it's a database issue or if a pseudonym is needed? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:06, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

The editorial is signad as CNB/PDiL. It's probably a routine space, I removed it, and now there's only one Patrizia DiLucchio left. Thanks! --Willem 16:05, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

Coplan in de Ruimte

Hello, I'm wondering how is this book (that is a pure spy novel with the usual dose of sexual sadism thrown in) related to spec-fic? Thanks. Hauck 15:51, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

Well, the book is in my collection because the cover blurb states something like "Coplan in de Ruimte takes you to unknown planets and a breathtaking end". The story is about an unknown planetoid that comes in orbit around earth, the race between the US and USSR to get there first and their final cooperation when there's proof of extraterrestial beings on the planetoid. I haven't seen any "sexual sadism", but that might be hidden in the pages I haven't (and will not) read. --Willem 16:31, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
Maybe the pub I found is not the parent publication? --Zapp 17:50, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
It's possible. As I'm not expert on such topics, I'll drop the matter (and still disagree with the "blind" addition of titles based on vague links so somebody else will take the responsability to add them). Note that Gourdon's covers do depict scenes from the book (and I can confirm that the Coplans that I've read have the requisite sadistic sex scene -usually a gorgeous woman bound and tortured or threatened to be tortured) and the rare info about the parent (french) title don't match with the synopsis given by Willem. Hauck 04:07, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
Note also that the cover is from here. Hauck 09:09, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
The cover is apparently reused. As Willem is the owner of that Coplan pub, maybe the original French edition is given wrong inside? Willem, can You please have a look? --Zapp 15:02, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
The book mentions "Contacts est-ouest" as original title, I had no reason to doubt this. I found a description of Contacts est-ouest here, that looks totally different from my book, so I think the wrong title is printed. But, no idea what the right title is. There were 247 titles published under the pseudonym. For now, I'll remove the original title, add notes and try to find the right title. Thanks, --Willem 16:20, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
Sorry but affter nearly a day of searching (and an attack of virus) I've managed to get a epub of the book (I persisted because Versins listed this novel as spec-fic). It's indeed the right book with the requisite torture scene (it just happen in another room so it's quite mild). The end is deliberately ambigous as the supposed extraterrestrials are perhaps (or so thought Coplan) in fact german or japanese.Hauck 17:00, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
Good to be certain. I re-created the French and German editions from the original submissions. Result is here. I should have thought about Versins, but my copy of the encyclopedia is buried pretty deep these days. The Dutch translation is in Fantasfeer / Fandata, but that's no surprise. Thanks for the trouble, and I hope your virus is destroyed. --Willem 15:51, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
I'm pleased to read this. :) I put the traslator under note. --Zapp 04:13, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
You added a very funny note. Fantasfeer (book) / Fandata (digital) is the index of speculative fiction in the Netherlands, not a translator. I removed the note again. --Willem 15:03, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

De Grote Operatie

Cover artist of De Grote Operatie is Vicente Segrelles, see, image cf_850.
Cover artist of Chirurg tussen de Sterren is also Vicente Segrelles, see, image cf_144. Horzel 19:05, 29 August 2017 (EDT)

Credit and notes added. Thanks (again)! --Willem 15:46, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Arthur Clarke's "The Ghost from the Grand Banks" (1990)

Hello. This is a request which you are absolutely free to ignore if you don't have the time or the desire to bother with this stuff. There are some speculations online that the version of the novel in this omnibus is silently abridged. Could we make a little comparison with your edition from 1990? Leaving aside introductions and afterwords, in my copy of the omnibus the novel takes 216 pages and is split into 44 chapters organised in four parts: "Prelude" (1-22), "Preparations" (23-31), "Operations" (32-37) and "Finale" (38-44). Each chapter begins on a new page and each part has a separate title page. The last part, presumably the place of the most brutal abridgement, takes only 23 pages and consists of the following seven short chapters: 38. Richter Eight; 39. Prodigal Son; 40. Tour of Inspection; 41. Free Ascent; 42. The Villa, at Sunset; 43. Exorcism; 44. Epilogue: The Deeps of Time. Does all that show any substantial differences from your edition? Cheers! Waldstein 08:07, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

I think that your edition in an exact reprint. Without the afterwords and blank pages the novel only takes 191 pages (each chapter starts on a right page, often leaving the left page blank). Page count of the last part is exactly 23 pages with the same chapter titles. Your edition doesn't sound abridged to me. --Willem 15:23, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
Thank you very much for this answer. Waldstein 12:50, 1 September 2017 (EDT)

Between Planets

Turns out there were two printings of the title under the same catalog #. Notes explain the one difference. [1] and [2] --~ Bill, Bluesman 15:07, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! My verification was for the right pub. Cheers! --Willem 16:07, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

Victor Valla

Please see this discussion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:57, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

I agree with the changes. Thanks, --Willem 16:00, 9 September 2017 (EDT)

Introductions to Lem's The Star Diaries

Hi, Willem!

I have posted this issue on the Community Portal. It seems very likely that the first introduction to your verified publication of The Star Diaries isn't translated from the 1954 original version but from a later (second) introduction that notes the texts of two new voyages and the omittance of the 26th voyage (and also the absurdity of the authorship of LEM).

In addition, it will likely be the case that they are either credited to 'Professor A. S. Tarantoga' or 'Prof. A. S. Tarantoga'.

Could you please take a look at your copy? Christian Stonecreek 08:53, 9 September 2017 (EDT)

Added my opinion there. --Willem 16:01, 9 September 2017 (EDT)

The Immortals of Science Fiction

I've submitted contents (interior art) to this publication, based on external artist credits, such as (The Illustrated Man), and again for Terry Oakes, and isfdb entries such for covers by Richard Clifton-Dey, Alan Craddock, Stuart Hughes and Les Edwards. Horzel 09:07, 14 September 2017 (EDT)

Looks good at first sight. Thanks! --Willem 16:36, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Cover artist for Coplan in de Ruimte

Hello. The cover artist is Michel Gourdon, who did all the Fleuve Noir Espionnage covers. See here, where his signature is visible. I have updated the record of your verified accordingly, and added a note about the source of the info. I did not add a link, as it might not be permanent. Thanks, Linguist 10:28, 17 September 2017 (EDT).

Thanks! --Willem 16:35, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Storm over Melniboné

Added note about cover art of this publication, and probable artist Brian Froud. Horzel 07:49, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

Jane Frank confirms Brian Froud. I added the Panther edition of 'The Finger and the Moon', the credit to Froud and adapted the notes. Thanks! --Willem 16:33, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

MM 4th printing of Red Mars

I finally acquired my own copy, so I added a note to your MM 4th printing of Red Mars about the odd printing error. It looks like this same error impacted both the 3rd and 4th printings. Thanks for taking the time to scan and upload this cover, I probably never would have noticed it otherwise. Albinoflea 00:47, 20 September 2017 (EDT)

Glad it helped. Thanks! --Willem 16:18, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

The Chessmen of Mars

Hi Willem, as per the cover is by Ray Feibush. I have submitted the corresponding change. John. JLochhas 03:04, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! --Willem 16:15, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Kothar and the Wizard Slayer

Found a date code on the last page of [this], but want to make sure I'm not the only one. You're likely to see this before Sean, but will direct he and Bob here. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:11, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

Good observation!! Yes, my copy had "3-74" at the bottom of the last page, right side. The date used on the pub is clearly the copyright date; apparently, the Belmont edition is the original appearance. Bob 18:05, 7 October 2017 (EDT)
"3-74" is in my copy too. I agree with Bob. --Willem 15:58, 8 October 2017 (EDT)
Thanks, gentlemen! I'll alter the record with note. If Sean's is different a new record can easily be created. --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:00, 8 October 2017 (EDT)


in your verified pub. Dark Matter, "The Astral Visitor Delta Blues" should be by Robert Fleming. --Vasha 08:36, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Slip of the keyboard I think. Corrected now. Thanks! --Willem 15:50, 8 October 2017 (EDT)

Misadventures of Sherlock Holmes

I have a question about two of the stories in your verified publication The Misadventures of Sherlock Holmes. In it, you have "The Adventure of the Paradol Chamber" and "The Adventure of the Conk-Singleton Papers" dated 1980, but no record of where exactly they were first published. Now, according to The Arthur Conan Doyle Encyclopedia, these are both short plays, performed for the Mystery Writers of America in 1948 and 1949 and published in The Unicorn Mystery Book Club News in 1949. Are the pieces in Misadventures plays, and what do the credits there say about first publication? --Vasha 19:17, 10 October 2017 (EDT)

No idea where 1980 came from. I corrected these and added notes about the first publication. Thanks! --Willem 02:05, 11 October 2017 (EDT)

De Laatste God

Cover artist of this is Jürgen Rogner, see THX 1138: Das Drogen-Paradies. Horzel 06:42, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! --Willem 10:18, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

Time Untamed

Cover artist of this is George Alvara, see Horzel 07:04, 17 October 2017 (EDT)

Thanks. Credit added and source noted. --Willem 14:57, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Hallelujah Anyway

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Hallelujah Anyway from the earlier tp version.--Dirk P Broer 21:59, 26 October 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! --Willem 14:58, 23 November 2017 (EST)


Iceworld: my copy matches this record apart from the copyright page which states “Printed in Canada” (Back cover states “Cover printed in the U.S.A.”). Does this indicate a Canadian issue (the price just says 95c) or is it just that some copies were actually printed in Canada? --AndyjMo 12:23, 30 October 2017 (EDT)

Already answered by Bluesman I see. --Willem 15:00, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Operation Ares

Cover artist of this is indeed Paul Lehr, his signature is on the original art at (lower right corner, click on magnifying glass). Horzel 10:38, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

Thanks. Credit added, source noted and other verifiers informed. --Willem 15:13, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Roald Dahl's non-genre stories

I have been looking into Roald Dahl's stories and am about to mark some of them non-genre. The ones that occur in publications you verified are "Taste," "The Soldier,", "My Lady Love, My Dove," "Dip in the Pool," "Galloping Foxley," "Neck," "Nunc Dimittis," and "Claud's Dog" in Someone Like You; "De Fijnproever," "Gedemobiliseerd," "M'n Liefje, M'n Duifje," "Een Frisse Duik ," "Foxley," "Huid," "Vergif," "Klem," "Nunc Dimittis," "De Rattenvanger," "Rummins," "Mr Hoddy," and "Mr Feasey" in M'n Liefje, M'n Duifje; "Nunc Dimittis" in Verhalen die Hitchcock Koos; "De Lifter" and "Een Zacht Eitje" in Het Wonderlijk Verhaal van Hendrik Meier. Also the stories by Roald Dahl and Ring Lardner in Nachtelijke Cavalcade. Please let me know if you disagree. --Vasha 15:51, 5 November 2017 (EST)

No problem. --Willem 15:06, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Shadow of Earth

Cover artist of this is Enric, according to p28 of S.I. Una agència artística a Barcelona (1981) as can be seen on Youtube (from about 1:35 minutes). Horzel 07:06, 6 November 2017 (EST)

Tales of Wonder No. 3 Cover Artist

Could you check if there is a credit for the cover of Tales of Wonder No. 3 which appears on page 203 of Science Fiction: An Illustrated History? Given the note, I suspect it isn't credited and that the cover artist is probably actually "W. J. Roberts" The erroneous "L. J." comes from this source. I'm proceeding with updating the parent title, but if your book has not credit, it would be easier to correct the author on the title record and then fix the one outlier. I'll ask the other active verifiers as well. Thanks for checking. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:41, 11 November 2017 (EST)

Question already answered by Hauck. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk

"Het Bewijs" by Maurice Level

This story is in two verified publications of yours and I'm changing it to non-genre bfast on having read it. --Vasha 20:21, 13 November 2017 (EST)

Non-genre stories

I marked some of the stories in [Huivering Wekken: 26 Onthutsende Verhalen] as non-genre: "De Glimlach van de Mona Lisa," "Het Paasei," "Het Uitje van de Heer Loveday" and "s Middags om Drie Uur."

Do you know if "Tussen Acht en Acht" ("Between Eight and Eight") and "Levenslang" ("The Living End") are speculative? I haven't seen them. --Vasha 01:37, 19 November 2017 (EST)

Llana of Gathol

Cover artist of this is Richard Clifton-Dey, according to at Horzel 09:04, 22 November 2017 (EST)

Changes to Golden Fool

Hi, I have made changes to Golden Fool. I have added the un-numbered pages to the page count and given the exact pages of the excerpt in the Notes. Added Map to contents. Moved LCCN to External IDS. Added to Notes: more info about what is on title & copyright pages & cover. BungalowBarbara 16:25, 22 November 2017 (EST)

Yarrid Dhooghe vs Yarris Dhooghe

Hi, according to his LinkedIn profile his name is indeed Yarrid Dhooghe.--Dirk P Broer 06:19, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Spacehawk, Inc

Spacehawk, Inc; after a query from a Moderator and posting a question on the Help pages it has been agreed that the page number of the drawing at the front of the book should be 2 – without the square brackets. The actual novel starts at Page 5 so square brackets would only be applied if the drawing was more than 4 pages before that. --AndyjMo 12:11, 27 November 2017 (EST)

Cover artist for Naar het Middelpunt der Aarde / De Planetenoorlog

The cover art on this publication is verified by you as being "Peter Atanasow". Is this correct? The same art is credited to Victor Stabin in three other publications. Will you check to make sure Atanasow isn't perhaps the cover designer instead of the artist?

Please let me know what you find out. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:04, 5 December 2017 (EST)

I'm holding two edits by Zapp related to this. Please review them. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:02, 8 December 2017 (EST)
Thank you all. The credit (or perhaps the illustration) was probably switched on publication with this pub. Zapp's adits can be approved, I'll rework the credits and notes after that. --Willem 06:37, 9 December 2017 (EST)
They are approved. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:52, 9 December 2017 (EST)
I put a notice before there, too. --Zapp 17:01, 9 December 2017 (EST)
Naar het Middelpunt der Aarde / De Planetenoorlog has a wrong cover artist credit. Victor Stabin confirmed to be the artist, see here. --Zapp 18:26, 7 December 2017 (EST)
I don't check that page very often. The note should have been on my regular talkpage (moved here). I changed the credits and adapted the notes on both publications. Should be ok now. Again, thanks vor the notification! --Willem 05:48, 10 December 2017 (EST)

Another question for that: Could it be that this interior art isn't a variant title of cover art 'Reise zum Mittelpunkt der Erde / Der Krieg der Welten' but of interior art here? --Zapp 13:45, 11 December 2017 (EST)

Yes. Yesterday the interior art title was a variant of the coverart. As the differences are minor, I saw no reason to change things. Changed now. --Willem 15:44, 11 December 2017 (EST)

Dutch Burroughs publisher

You are primary verifier on four Burroughs books (Prinses van Mars, De Goden van Mars, Krijgsheer van Mars and Het Tijdvergeten Land) and have listed the publisher as "Classics Lectuur". I have a copy which has "Classics Lektuur". I don't speak Dutch - is there a reason for the discrepancy? Doug H 15:36, 5 December 2017 (EST)

They are probably the same publisher, you can use a C or a K in Lektuur in Dutch, my books have "Classics Lektuur" written on the title page. William 09:11, 7 December 2017 (EST)
My mistake, repeated over and over. It's "Classics Lektuur" on all publications. Corrected now. Thanks! --Willem 06:03, 10 December 2017 (EST)


If you recieved your copy of the 2nd printing in September and the first publication date is in July , what proof do you have of a September publication date? (It may have been August, for example, or even July). Hauck 16:06, 25 December 2017 (EST)

Yes, but I'm sure it's later than june. Such changes should be discussed with the verifier before an edit is submitted. --Willem 16:13, 25 December 2017 (EST)
So I discuss it with you (note that this reasoning was contained in the original submission, but perhaps you didn't see it), what is your evidence of a September publication date? Hauck 16:22, 25 December 2017 (EST)
I don't care about the change itself, common decency expects you to discuss things before making such changes. --Willem 16:42, 25 December 2017 (EST)
Change remade. About your decency issues: 1) I was correcting a bibliographical error that shouldn't have been made in the first place; 2) my motives and actions were explained in the note (as a moderator, you have all the necessary tools to act it if need be); 3) you're probably living in a parallel world, everyday there are about 10 changes to my verified publications and less than 1% is preceded by a message on my talk page. We just can't send messages every time we correct a mistake. The net resulty of your revert is that we both loose time on a non-issue. Hauck 03:31, 26 December 2017 (EST)
If that's your reasoning, may I remind you of your reaction when a change was made to one of your verifications? How is this any different? --Willem 04:36, 26 December 2017 (EST)