User talk:Thomcomstock

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Welcome!

Hello, Thomcomstock, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Hauck 19:39, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Terraforming Earth

Hello, I've put your submission on hold as the statements in the publication's note and your proposed ones contradict themselves (e.g. for the presence or absence of a number line). This is usually the sign of a problem (likely there are two quite similar but different publications, one -not yours- being perhaps a book-club one). You'll have first to clear the matter with the PVs here and there to sort things out. Thanks. Hauck 19:43, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Random note

Hi, I found the following comment on Willem's talk page where it seemed out of place: (I removed it from there)

I'll try to sort things out: The notes within the existing publication stem from primary verified copies and thus are (or should be) founded in reality. Your proposal of different notes contradict the existing information and thus seem to stem from a different publication of the novel, and we would enter an extra record for a different one. Maybe the publisher is a different one: what are the statements on the book's title page (or on the cover / the spine)?
Changing primary verified publications need first to be discussed with the verifiers. Also, see Hauck's long comment on changing publications at the end of this. I hope that helps. Stonecreek 08:28, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Your question (copied from Willem's talk page)

Hauck, I did as you asked by posting to both yourself (as Primary) and to Biomassbob (as Primary2) the note edit that I attempted on Transforming Earth, Jack Williamson. Although I have today read a great deal of the information regarding the etiquette, format and logic of the ISFDB, I am not quite certain what to do next regarding this. I am very serious about my knowledge and collecting of both science fact and speculative fiction throughout the 51 years that I have been doing so. That said, I am quite humbled by the present company of the like-minded individuals that maintain this database. Can you tell me, when you have a moment, if I have in fact, proceeded in an appropriate manner? I am a "high-functioning" autistic and, as such am not always certain of social boundaries or their implications and am often stymied as to whether I am maintaining them. Anyway, I have done the best that I have thus far learned here to do and hope to become a consistent contributor. --[[Thom 22:34, 5 February 2017 (UTC)]]

Hello Thom. We're always very happy to welcome a new contributor. Your post probably needs multiple answers.
1) on your proposed submission that I've put on hold. As it seems that there are perhaps two different books, what you've got to do now is to post on these pages Willem's and Biomassbob's something along the lines of "Hello, I've got a hc of Terraforming Earth that, contrary to your PVed copy has stated "first edition" with full numberline. Can you check your copy and see if it may be a second printing or a BCE (this one?)?" (I'll let you use your own words, of course). After their answers, we'll see what to do next
2) don't ever by humbled by us, we're just a bunch of people from multiple countries, with multiple backgrounds and multiple (sometimes competing) opinions that try to share the same passions as you.
3) don't worry too much about social boundaries, you'll see that we're a opinionated bunch and that clashes between contributors may occur. We just do our best to stay polite and respectful (alas it's not always possible). Hauck 10:27, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
As you can see by looking at the diverse talk pages of the persons involved, there were probably two publications "mixed", one with the number line and the first edition statement (yours and Biomassbob's) and one without (Willem's -with perhaps reservations- and Nihonjoe's). So I've approved your update for this publication, you can now set yourself as its PV (use the "•Verify This Pub " link). For you it's IMHO quite an instructing example of the workings of our community. Thanks for having brought to light this problem. Hauck 08:53, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Note: Completed and Accepted Edits/Additions To Date

New Pub/Primary: 2001: A Space Odyssey; Maple-Vail Edition; Found Here

New Pub/Primary: Terraforming Earth; Stated first edition with full numberline; Found Here

New Pub/Primary: The Martian Chronicles / The Illustrated Man / The Golden Apples of the Sun; Barnes & Noble Collectable Edition; Found Here

Edited Pub: E Pluribus Unicorn; LCCN; Found Here

Thom 15:01, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

The Martian Chronicles/The Illustrated Man/The Golden Apples of the Sun

Hello, I've approved your submission for this publication but had top make some changes to conform to our standards:

  • Changed title from The Martian Chronicles/The Illustrated Man/The Golden Apples of the Sun to The Martian Chronicles / The Illustrated Man / The Golden Apples of the Sun with spaces between the slashes.
  • Changed type to OMNIBUS as it's made of already existing COLLECTIONs (like this one).
  • Regularized publisher to simply "Barnes & Noble Books" as per ISBN used in this publication series.
  • After much thoughts, I've deleted the synopsis (a bit too long and IMHO not strictly related to the omnibus but more to the component collections).

What is left you is now to enter the contents, the result is here. Hauck 08:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I've rejected your submission for adding a cover, we're not allowed to deeplink to the specified website, please see this page on how to proceed. Hauck 09:58, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
The image is correctly uploaded and is here, you can now enter its URL in the "Image" field. Hauck 10:16, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Done. --Thom 10:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

The Exploration of the Moon

Hello, I've put your submission on hold. There are some issues with it (in no particular order):

  • We're not allowed to deeplink to the specified website so please either upload the cover in our system or link to an authorized website.
  • You state that you own a copy of the book but left the "Data from Tuck" bit in the notes, it's quite antinomic.
  • Wat is the source of your 1954 date other than the copyright (we do not use it for dating purpose) and how is your proposed publication different than this already existing one as Tuck indicates 1955 for Harper's book.
  • As the cover is the same, you could have use the option to keep the cover art, it'll save a later merge.

Hauck 19:02, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

The link that I provided for the cover is my own Photobucket account.
  • Where can I post personal photos online so that I may link to them? I have, in the past, simply sent an attachment to myself via email for the link.
It's better to upload the cover directly into our server (and not a third party one), for this follow the instructions for the easiest Semi-automated Procedure.
  • I do not know what "Data from Tuck" means and therefore decided not to mess with it. What does it mean and what options do I have?
It means that the data used to create the publication came from a secondary source, in this case this one a three volume encyclopedia usually simply called "Tuck" from its author. When you primary verify a publication (meaning that you have a physical access to it), all the data is supposed to come from a primary source (your copy) and not a secondary one, so we delete such statements that may confuse a casual user about the exact sources used.
  • All First Edition and First Printing sources indicate that there is neither indication of edition nor printing on the copyright page of any known Harper & Brothers publication of this book and so I noted this.
in fact I strongly believe that your copy is this one as Tuck gives a 1955 date and that there is no 1954 Harper printing. So you just have to take the PV(1) spot for the existing record, add the needed data and delete the "Data from Tuck" part. You'll also be able to upload a scan (as per instructions above).
  • There was no cover photo to begin with on 'The Exploration of the Moon' Pub here on ISFDB, so I provided one.
My last remark was perhaps a bit too technical. When I use the "Clone This Pub" function, I usually choose a record with a cover artist and click the "Reuse COVERART title(s) and image URL" (even if I later upload a cover) this will re-use the existing COVERART record. If you do not proceed like this, you'll end with two (one existing + one just created) COVERART records for the same artwork, records that will have to be merged. Hauck 09:57, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Can you address each of these issues so that my future posts are less time consuming and annoying to those that must review them please?
Thom 22:16, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
I don't understand where you are seeing Coverart. I do not see any coverart for this record at all.
Thom 03:52, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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